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---Logopened Thu May 23 00:00:52 2019
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00:44<Rouge>hello
00:44<Rouge>Complete Your Signup Your account is currently under review.
00:44<Rouge>ok done
00:45<Rouge>now what i've to do?
00:45<Rouge>select which plan?
00:48<dwfreed>wait until your account is reviewed; you should get an email soon if you haven't already
00:49<Rouge>ok then?
00:49<Rouge>i have to select which plan?
00:49<Rouge>because they only ask me to add card
00:53<Rouge>normally how long do i've to wait?
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02:24<Cromulent>hmm how come my London linode IP address says it is in the Netherlands?
02:24<grawity>addresses don't say anything
02:24<grawity>what website says this?
02:24<Cromulent>whois.domaintools.com
02:25<grawity>and what address is it about?
02:26<Cromulent>ah it doesn't really matter I was just curious
02:26<Peng>Maybe DomainTools isn't very smart, or Linode bought the IPs second-hand from someome Dutch
02:26<Zr40>that site says the same for one of my Frankfurt IPs, US for another
02:27<Peng>o_o
02:27<grawity>oh, right, it has a "quick stats" thingy
02:27<Rouge>i already buy 2GB at linode
02:27<Rouge>now whats next?
02:27<grawity>yeah it's a bit weird
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03:07<Rouge>hello
03:07<Rouge>i already create
03:07<Rouge>and now why i cant login to my root?
03:07<Rouge>it said connection timed out
03:07<Rouge>any idea?
03:11<Peng>Is it running?
03:13<Rouge>-irc.znc.in- *** You need to send your password. Configure your client to send a server password. - -irc.znc.in- *** To connect now, you can use /quote PASS <username>:<password>, or /quote PASS <username>/<network>:<password> to connect to a specific network.
03:13<Rouge>sorry
03:14<Rouge>it said Launch console
03:14<Rouge>Offline
03:14<Rouge>when i try to power on
03:14<Rouge>it said a config need to be added bla bla bla
03:14<Rouge>why is that?
03:14<Rouge>because i cant connect to SSH
03:15<Rouge>i already done on config
03:15<Peng>Did you select an OS and deploy it?
03:16<Rouge>where to click?
03:16<Rouge>i already click at first
03:16<Rouge>debian 9
03:16<Rouge>have to setup 1 more time?
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03:16<Peng>No?
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03:17<Peng>If you deployed an OS, you don't have to do it twice, unless you deleted it or something.
03:17<Peng>https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/
03:17<Rouge>then?
03:17<Peng>Then you can just boot it.
03:18<Rouge>i already done on this part
03:18<Rouge>but why still offline?
03:18<Rouge>Click Create. You will be directed back to the Linodes page which will report the status of your Linode as it boots up. You can now use the Cloud Manager to:
03:18<Peng>I don't know.
03:19<Rouge>ok got it
03:20<Rouge>Add Linode Configuration Label and Comments Label * fuhrendesign Comments Virtual Machine VM Mode Paravirtulization Full-virtulization
03:20<Rouge>under here
03:20<Rouge>so now
03:20<Rouge>virtual machine what to choose?
03:20<Rouge>para or full?
03:38<Rouge>ok now i already run
03:38<Rouge>but i still cant connect to SSH
03:38<Rouge>it said connection time out
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04:14<Henry>hello
04:14<Peng>Hi
04:15<Henry>i need wordpress hosting
04:16<Henry>please show me how to get it
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07:22<alex_ku77>Hello. I'm looking for linode tech support. What is fastest way to contact them? I have question related to os upgrade.
07:24<LouWestin>Business community support but you might get a Linode staff here
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07:25<LouWestin>However you can ask your question and Maybe we can help
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07:28<alex_ku77>I wanted to know if linode makes backup before making os upgrade.
07:28<Peng>*You* can make a backup.
07:28<alex_ku77>So I know if I need to make backup files myself or Linode already provides that functionality.
07:29<Peng>!backups
07:29<linbot>You should probably have backups. If you don't want to set up your own, use Linode Backups. Prices start at $ 2.00/month depending on your plan. https://www.linode.com/backups
07:29<Peng>Linode doesn't know when you're doing an OS upgrade.
07:30<LouWestin>Linode is unmanaged.
07:30<LouWestin>Or self managed
07:30<Peng>you could probably hire Professional Services to do an OS upgrade
07:32<alex_ku77>No need, "self managed" is acceptable way of doing things. Just wanted to know if there is options.
07:32<Peng>You can also copy your disk images, if you have a destination.
07:35<LouWestin>Sometimes OS upgrades cause problems so yeah I’d backup before hand
07:46<alex_ku77>Definitely. Thank you for help guys!
07:46<LouWestin>You’re welcome
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07:54<alex_ku77>Guys what you know about admin functionality? My teammate says it gonna use admin on linode website for os upgrade.
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07:59<LouWestin>Eh you could create another Linode image
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08:55<linbot>New news from community: Why is my website serving the wrong content? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18238>
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09:20<waltman>Are there any issues at Newark? I just rebooted my Linode. It usually takes about 30 seconds or so, but it's several minutes and counting now.
09:21<dwfreed>probably specific to your host
09:21<dwfreed>open a ticket
09:21<waltman>Looks like it just finished.
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09:42<waltman>Looks like I have no swap space.
09:43<waltman>systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device /dev/sdb.
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09:43<waltman>Maybe I should try rebooting again.
09:45<Peng>How does that happen?
09:46<waltman>Beats me!
09:46<Peng>Could /dev/sdb have been removed from the config profile?
09:47<waltman>It was working before. All I did was reboot to pick up the new kernel.
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09:47<waltman>Seems unhappy again in the console.
09:48<waltman>"Timed out waiting for device /dev/sdb"
09:48<dwfreed>!ticket
09:48<linbot>Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here.
09:49*dwfreed pets linbot
09:49<waltman>Thanks. I'll check my config once the reboot is finished.
09:49*cruxeternus blames systemd, naturally.
09:50<waltman>Always reasonable.
09:55<waltman>Looks like it mounted swap after the reboot.
09:56<cruxeternus>Still might want to file a ticket to see if they can find out what the issue was, and if it will recur.
10:07<waltman>OK, ticket opened. Now to go run some errands.
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10:32<LouWestin>I was doing some reading up on Debian 10. I see they’re migrating IPtables to NFT. New syntax to learn.
10:35<ericoc>rhel8 too right? firewalld is magical frontend for nftables instead of iptables iirc?
10:36<LouWestin>I believe they were moving away from fallwallld
10:36<LouWestin>But not sure off the top of my head as what is replacing it.
10:38<LouWestin>This link shows a translate command for iptables to nft. https://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/Moving_from_iptables_to_nftables
10:38<dwfreed>LouWestin: they ship iptables-nftables, which is an iptables frontend to nft
10:39<LouWestin>Ok
10:42<LouWestin>It’s a juggling act trying to keep up. Lol
10:42<dwfreed>your commands won't change
10:42<dwfreed>how it ends up in the kernel does
10:42<dwfreed>though, iirc, there are still some iptables extensions that don't translate to nft
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10:57<u0_a161>nicK Hoong
10:57<u0_a161>nick hong
10:57<dwfreed>you need a / in front
10:57<dwfreed>/nick hong
10:58<u0_a161>hai
10:59<u0_a161>nice to meet you
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11:02<Hong>test
11:05<Hong>test
11:05<LouWestin>dwfreed: ok.
11:05<Hong>hai LouWestin
11:06<LouWestin>Hi
11:06<Hong>I am.Hoong
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11:13<tmberg>dong
11:26<LouWestin>Ding dong
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13:27<LouWestin>dwfreed: I’m backtracking to the nft vs ip tables discussion. So we can still use the same iptables syntax like before?
13:28<LouWestin>Not before. I mean currently
13:29<dwfreed>yes
13:29<dwfreed>most of iptables maps straightforwardly to nft
13:30<LouWestin>Ok thanks! That makes things a wee bit easier. Some of the articles I read mention on how nft will make things easier. Sure...
13:31<LouWestin>I’m not doing anything more complicated than what Linode’s guide suggests for securing your sever.
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13:34<LouWestin>But my plan is for upgrading is to fire up another host, get things running there, then switch over the ip addresses.
13:39<LouWestin>There’s not an urgent reason for me to upgrade to Debian 10 when it comes out anyway.
13:41<gparent>the version number is higher tho
13:41<gparent>isn't that a life goal itself?
13:42<JamesTK>s/GPU/Sydney/ ... priorities!
13:42<LouWestin>lol Well yeah. I swear there’s a version number competition. The magic number seems to be 10 right now.
13:44<LouWestin>I only needed to upgrade last time due to needing JDK8. I mean I could’ve and did backport for a little while.
13:45<LouWestin>Firefox is up to version 71?
14:06<nate>Chrome is at v74 so
14:08<gparent>it's as if they used the same release cycle
14:08<LouWestin>Wait, no I think I’m wrong. Firefox is at 66
14:08<gparent>67.
14:09<LouWestin>Ok thanks
14:09<gparent>to your credit, 2 days ago.
14:09<gparent>so 66 wasn't too far off.
14:10<LouWestin>I’m not at home so I’m guessing what I thought I recall the number was. Lol
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16:25<csnxs>good morning mr linode
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16:35<@rdaniels>csnxs: o/
16:36<csnxs>\o
16:49<pew>o7
16:55<csnxs>o7 CMDR
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19:26<ssa>Any known connectivity issues at Dallas since the past 5-10 mins?
19:27<millisa>most my stuff is there and I haven't gotten an alert. you're the first to say something about it here.
19:27<ssa>h1299-rin1
19:27<ssa>hi neighbour
19:27<millisa>greetings
19:27<LouWestin>I’m your neighbor too
19:27<ssa>we have a property in h1162-rin1 area too
19:28<ssa>hi lou
19:28<ssa>it might just be me + one of my customers who co-incidentally had issues connecting to the server
19:28<LouWestin>My website is coming up
19:30<millisa>(er, I'm connected to this channel through one of my dallas linodes even)
19:30<nuevu>Certainly nothing widespread. I'm in the same boat as millisa.
19:31<LouWestin>Minecraft server looks good too. Don’t know boss
19:34<ssa>false alarm then. thanks neighbours
19:35<LouWestin>Np
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21:10<linbot>New news from community: Locked out of Wordpress! <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18239>
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21:27<LouWestin>^^ person hires web guy who only can fix the wordpress site using CPanel.
21:30<Abi12>It's a pretty common thing.
21:31<Abi12>All the wordpress web designers I've ever worked with know nothing about how it works.
21:31<Abi12>They just transfer the site over to people who know how to host it, or just stick with the big boys like 1and1/godaddy for their hosting.
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22:11<LouWestin>Or the reason for security like strong passwords. “I have a small site, nobody is going to hack me”. I’ve heard that quite a few times
22:14<LouWestin>I jumped off of Wordpress because I wasn’t blogging really and I just don’t want to deal with maintaining it.
22:23<ssa>It's actually very refreshing to see people going through software without worrying about security, or any kind of complex topics.
22:24<ssa>I recently saw someone use FTP to editing and uploading a Laravel turnkey project directory to their DigitalOcean server
22:24<LouWestin>It keeps the bots employed. Lol
22:24<ssa>I was like, "do people really still use ftp?!"
22:25<ssa>And he had 100 tabs open for tutorials around it. Seems to be making $xxxx per month from his SaaS offerings.
22:25<LouWestin>Usually I assume that they really mean sftp, but...
22:25<ssa>Pragmatism 🤷‍♂️
22:27<LouWestin>There’s also those who fear updating their server because the updates could break it. That’s (depending on the situation) kind of understandable.
22:28<LouWestin>Mission critical systems, sure. But you should have a backup plan anyway.
22:28<ssa>When you disable firewall on production just for a moment and then your dog walks into the room.
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23:05<Abi12>ssa: yes ftp is still widely used..
23:05<Abi12>it's kinda sad. They don't even use FTPS.
23:37<ssa>Are custom linodes available, like high cpu + more of ssd space (not block storage)?
23:37<millisa>only the high memory/dedicated cpu plans: https://www.linode.com/pricing#all
23:37<ssa>I know the answer, but I'm just "bumping the thread".
23:37<ssa>:p
23:38<LouWestin>what millisa said
23:40<ssa>The low space on Dedicated CPU plans means I can only make use of them for worker processes.
23:41<ssa>I could make good use of Dedicated CPU nodes if they came with much more storage space for my always trafficked database cluster.
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