| --- | Log | opened Tue May 28 00:00:59 2019 |
| 00:14 | <ssa> | found something dnsmasq logs: "ignoring nameserver 127.0.0.1 - local interface" |
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| 00:38 | <ssa> | OK I'm starting to understand this a bit. Apparently the nameserver 127.0.0.1 points my dns lookups to dnsmasq first. It's not the dnsmasq that reads nameserver option and points to anything in 127.0.0.1. |
| 00:39 | <ssa> | So it has to be that I need 127.0.0.1 as the first name being queried, followed by linode managed ones /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:40 | <ssa> | If only there was an easy way to make Linode's network-helper add 127.0.0.1 there |
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| 00:57 | <pothi> | Does anyone know how long it takes to complete "IP Swap"? |
| 01:02 | <Peng> | Why do you ask? |
| 01:03 | <pothi> | I tried to swap IP of two Linodes. Even after 10 minutes of swapping IP, I can't even ping both the servers. |
| 01:04 | <Peng> | You've adjusted the networking configurations of both servers? |
| 01:05 | <Peng> | arping might also help. |
| 01:06 | <pothi> | No, that was my mistake. I tried rebooting one of the servers. Now, I can ping the server that was just rebooted. |
| 01:07 | <pothi> | I can also log into the server that was just rebooted. |
| 01:12 | <pothi> | I rebooted the other server too. That too came back online and I could ping and log into the other server as well. I guess I have to either adjust the network configurations or reboot the servers. |
| 01:13 | <Peng> | If you have Auto-configure Networking on, the adjustments are being taken care of when you reboot. |
| 01:13 | <Peng> | Though it's up to you to fix other software, DNS, etc. |
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| 02:02 | <ssa> | test |
| 02:02 | <Peng> | ssa: Hi |
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| 02:04 | <ssa> | Peng: So I installed resolvconf just to give it a shot. First thing it did is overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with a symlink to it's own generated version. First line is loopback and the second one members.linode.com |
| 02:04 | <ssa> | Not sure what I'm losing by not having those 10-15 nameserver entries that linode injects. |
| 02:04 | <Peng> | Possibly nothing, possibly everything! |
| 02:05 | <ssa> | Also found an interesting read on topic https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers |
| 02:05 | <Peng> | They should've got copied to a file in /run/resolvconf/interface/ |
| 02:05 | <Peng> | But I don't know what'll happen if you reboot. |
| 02:05 | <ssa> | ooo lets try that :D |
| 02:05 | <Peng> | They should also be in /run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf |
| 02:06 | <ssa> | They are indeed |
| 02:06 | <ssa> | 10 of them |
| 02:06 | <ssa> | /etc/resolv.conf now looks like: nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n search members.linode.com \n options rotate |
| 02:07 | <ssa> | adds 127.0.0.1 and subtracts those 10 nameservers |
| 02:08 | <ssa> | It's also missing "domain members.linode.com" |
| 02:08 | <Peng> | The problem is, even if everything works *now*, anything could happen next time you reboot. /etc/resolv.conf could be replaced or, worse, resolvconf might be unable to tell DNSMasq what the right nameservers are. :/ |
| 02:08 | <ssa> | no idea what it does. |
| 02:09 | <ssa> | there's only one way to find out! |
| 02:09 | <Peng> | You don't need both "search" and "domain". |
| 02:09 | <ssa> | tell that to linode engineers |
| 02:09 | <ssa> | :P |
| 02:09 | <Peng> | ...at least, probably... |
| 02:10 | <ssa> | resolvconf made a copy of original at /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original |
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| 02:11 | <Peng> | The man page says that, if "search" isn't set, it defaults to the value of "domain". |
| 02:11 | <Peng> | And if "domain" isn't set, it checks gethostname(2). |
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| 02:12 | <Peng> | *I* don't have "domain" set, and nothing bad has ever happened. As far as I know. ;) |
| 02:15 | <ssa> | You'll never know what good hasn't happened by not having it set! |
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| 02:17 | <Niranjan> | Hello |
| 02:17 | <Niranjan> | got some question before buying hosting space |
| 02:17 | <Peng> | Hi |
| 02:18 | <Niranjan> | planning to buy basic Nanode 1GB |
| 02:18 | <ssa> | Sat Sri Akaal Niranjan ! |
| 02:18 | <Niranjan> | i want super fast website loading speed |
| 02:19 | <Niranjan> | Sat Sri Akaal SSA |
| 02:19 | <nate> | So far not seeing a question. If you're planning to ask will a nanode give you 'super fast website loading speed' that is literally an impossible question |
| 02:19 | <Niranjan> | will i be able to get fast loading speed in Nanode 1GB plan |
| 02:19 | <ssa> | That depends on what powers your website. |
| 02:19 | <nate> | There are boat loads of factors in a website's performance |
| 02:20 | <ssa> | If you're going to use a database with less than mild load, you'll be ok. |
| 02:21 | <ssa> | Consider what keeps you at peace, spending less $ or a fast website? |
| 02:21 | <ssa> | And do that. |
| 02:21 | <Niranjan> | okies.. what are the complication if I plan to move from Nanode 1GB to Linode 4GB later? |
| 02:22 | <ssa> | 30 mins downtime. |
| 02:22 | <Niranjan> | do i need to move any files from one server to another? |
| 02:22 | <nate> | If that sometimes, it mostly just depends on what the migration status is at your datacenter |
| 02:22 | <ssa> | There's a resize option to scale your node to another plan. |
| 02:23 | <ssa> | If you know how to do a manual transfer of your files, you can switch without downtime. |
| 02:24 | <Niranjan> | 30 mins downtime is manageable |
| 02:24 | <Niranjan> | than moving files manually |
| 02:24 | <Niranjan> | ;) |
| 02:24 | <Niranjan> | and i can linode is launching datacentre in Mumbai soon |
| 02:25 | <Niranjan> | I can see* |
| 02:26 | <Niranjan> | what are complication if i change the datacentre from Singapore to Mumbai? |
| 02:26 | <Peng> | Some downtime, and your IPs will change |
| 02:27 | <Niranjan> | downtime is fine, do i have to transfer files and manually? |
| 02:27 | <nate> | For that you would, I don't believe they do datacenter to datacenter migrations yet(?) |
| 02:29 | <Peng> | They do. |
| 02:29 | <nate> | Ah do they now? Missed that announcement I guess |
| 02:29 | <Peng> | Niranjan: No. |
| 02:29 | <Peng> | You have to file a support ticket, to ask them to do it, but other than that it's as automated as any other migration. |
| 02:30 | <Niranjan> | so i dont have to perform manual task |
| 02:30 | <Niranjan> | while changing data centre |
| 02:32 | <ssa> | When migrating to a different datacenter, your server's IP address will change. So... You'll have to change the IP address in your domain's DNS Records settings when you migrate DC. |
| 02:33 | <Niranjan> | thats manageble |
| 02:38 | <Niranjan> | do we have wordpress installer for free like google and AWS cloud services? where can i find these info on linode website? |
| 02:43 | <ssa> | They have turnkey Wordpress installers on GCP and AWS? THat |
| 02:43 | <ssa> | 's news to me :D |
| 02:44 | <ssa> | Not counting their Kubernetes show pieces |
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| 04:11 | <khaberz_> | Are you sure a support ticket is needed to migrate DCs? I have cloned linodes from one DC to another, no Ticket needed. Or am I misunderstanding something? |
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| 04:23 | <Peng> | I forgot about that. |
| 04:24 | <Peng> | A ticket isn't needed to *clone*, but a ticket is needed to *move*. |
| 04:24 | <Peng> | But "move" is basically just a fancy way of saying "clone and delete the original". |
| 04:24 | <Peng> | So you can just clone, yes. |
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| 04:27 | <khaberz_> | Roger that. |
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| 04:46 | <dwfreed> | Peng: not true, mac address would change, and subsequently EUI-64 would be different, in a clone vs a move |
| 04:47 | <Peng> | You keep your MAC address if you move data centers? |
| 04:47 | <dwfreed> | yes |
| 04:47 | <Peng> | Huh. |
| 04:47 | <Peng> | So the SLAAC privacy issues are true even for Linodes! :P |
| 04:47 | <dwfreed> | MAC address is directly derived from LinodeID; in a move, your LinodeID doesn't change |
| 05:03 | <JamesTK> | Oh nice |
| 05:04 | <Zr40> | but the prefix does change when moving data centers, of course |
| 05:04 | <dwfreed> | yes |
| 05:05 | <JamesTK> | dwfreed: yeah that makes sense |
| 05:05 | <JamesTK> | Yeah |
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| 05:25 | <um09> | Anyone here |
| 05:26 | <linbot> | um09: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
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| 05:29 | <linbot> | New news from community: how do i activate my account <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18260> |
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| 06:29 | <flitsinternet> | hi |
| 06:29 | <flitsinternet> | someone here for support? |
| 06:29 | <flitsinternet> | from Linode? |
| 06:30 | <flitsinternet> | please take a look at ticket number: 11973164 |
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| 07:07 | <rsdehart> | that's a lot more effective than "hello? *leave*" |
| 07:15 | <Zr40> | it's like... a ticket |
| 07:17 | <nate> | probably would be simpler if tickets simply had a priority option when making one (ignoring that people would probably just choose high anyways also ignoring they might do this now, been absolute ages since I've had to actually create a ticket) |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | everything is always urgent |
| 07:21 | <dwfreed> | ^ that's the problem with user-settable priority |
| 07:22 | <rsdehart> | yup |
| 07:24 | <rsdehart> | need an AI to triage tickets :D |
| 07:25 | <dwfreed> | or a staff member |
| 07:25 | <rsdehart> | that's something they should have thought of before now |
| 07:25 | <rsdehart> | I was hoping they already had that |
| 07:26 | <dwfreed> | my understanding is that they do some triaging, but it's obviously not enough |
| 07:29 | <@jcardillo> | Hi/bye flitsinternet. Someone is looking at your ticket now: # 11973164. |
| 07:30 | <dwfreed> | heh |
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| 08:59 | <waltman> | I was having some issues with my swap space and the linode support person suggested I delete my swap disk and recreate it. I've done that, but my linode isn't seeing the new disk. |
| 09:00 | <waltman> | How do I reference it in fstab? I tried named it "Hermes_Swap" and I set "LABEL=Hermes_Swap" in my fstab, but it didn't find it. |
| 09:01 | <dwfreed> | did you attach the disk to the config profile? |
| 09:01 | <waltman> | no. |
| 09:02 | <dwfreed> | kind of hard for the Linode to see the disk if it's not attached :P |
| 09:02 | <waltman> | I didn't realize I needed to do that! |
| 09:02 | <dwfreed> | also Linode doesn't set a label on the created FS |
| 09:02 | <waltman> | I only did that because I didn't see how to make it a device. |
| 09:03 | <waltman> | I'll report back in a few minutes, but I think that must be it. |
| 09:06 | <LouWestin> | I hardly write tickets and the only ones I have were only a few about a question. Support did help point me in the right direction a few times. |
| 09:07 | <dwfreed> | that reminds me, I need to email my bank |
| 09:08 | <waltman> | dwfreed: Thanks, the config profile was what I was missing. |
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| 11:01 | <Jerry> | Anyone have issues running Updraft Plus plugin on a wordpress site? |
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| 11:01 | <LouWestin> | I haven’t used it |
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| 11:04 | <Jerry> | I think I may have a permission error or memory error when Zip backup files are created using the plugin. |
| 11:08 | <LouWestin> | You might want to report it to the plugin developer since that might a bug with the plugin itself. |
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| 12:05 | <linbot> | New news from community: How to know Apache process/thread size in MPM Event <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18261> |
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| 14:03 | <najib> | Hi |
| 14:03 | <millisa> | greetings |
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| 14:04 | <LouWestin> | Bye |
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| 14:36 | <Filip> | IDENTIFY |
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| 15:16 | <Karrde-> | MEATPOPSICLE |
| 15:16 | <LouWestin> | I call those pork sticks. |
| 15:16 | <LouWestin> | Or chicken |
| 15:28 | <cruxeternus> | lol |
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| 15:36 | <Rouge> | hello |
| 15:36 | <Rouge> | i would like to ask |
| 15:36 | <Rouge> | i already purchase vps server from linoede.com |
| 15:36 | <Rouge> | and i add a private ip |
| 15:36 | <Rouge> | i just want to ask |
| 15:37 | <Rouge> | whats this for? |
| 15:37 | <Rouge> | Private/LAN Network Private IPs 192.168.209.133 / 17 |
| 15:37 | <Rouge> | how do i use it? |
| 15:37 | <millisa> | it's for communicating on the network that's shared inside a datacenter |
| 15:38 | <millisa> | traffic between nodes on it won't count against your quota |
| 15:38 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/manager/remote-access/#adding-private-ip-addresses talks about adding it |
| 15:38 | <Rouge> | how do i set it up? |
| 15:39 | <millisa> | other than the steps listed in that link? |
| 15:48 | <Rouge> | yeah |
| 15:48 | <Rouge> | i already the private IPV4 |
| 15:48 | <Rouge> | but i just want to know whats use for |
| 15:49 | <millisa> | for communication between linodes in the same datacenter. i guess the load balancers also can use it |
| 15:50 | <dwfreed> | nodebalancers require it |
| 15:56 | <Rouge> | what is node balancers? |
| 15:56 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/nodebalancers |
| 15:57 | <Rouge> | i already have data center now at DALLAS |
| 15:57 | <Rouge> | can i change to other datacenter? which is singapore |
| 15:58 | <LouWestin> | Yes you can |
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| 15:59 | <nb> | Rouge, file a ticket for support |
| 15:59 | <nb> | they can configure a migration |
| 15:59 | <Rouge> | how much do they charge for migration? |
| 15:59 | <LouWestin> | I didn’t know that required a ticket. |
| 15:59 | <Rouge> | and i would like to ask. which datacenter is good? |
| 16:00 | <nb> | Rouge, all of them |
| 16:00 | <nb> | Rouge, it depends on what you are wanting |
| 16:00 | <nb> | if most of your users are from one area, you may want to use a datacenter in that area to have lower latency |
| 16:00 | <millisa> | !speedtest |
| 16:00 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 16:00 | <nb> | LouWestin, well, you can delete your linode and make a new one, but if you want an easy, pretty much one click migration, you'd need a ticket |
| 16:00 | <millisa> | You can use that to help you pick |
| 16:01 | <nb> | or can you clone between different locations? /me is not sure, when I've needed that in the past i've just asked support to set it up for me |
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| 16:12 | <Rouge> | ok thanks |
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| 16:16 | <LouWestin> | nb: Right right. Things must've changed, because I remember I had the option to move from say Atlanta to Dallas via the web portal. |
| 16:16 | <nb> | oh |
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| 16:17 | <Rouge> | and if we do migration |
| 16:17 | <Rouge> | do we loss all of the file that we install? |
| 16:17 | <Rouge> | the update, psybnc & znc and so on? |
| 16:18 | <millisa> | Your IP would change. Your disks shouldn't change |
| 16:18 | <LouWestin> | nb: But that was a couple years ago and I haven’t done it since then so things could’ve changed |
| 16:18 | <nate> | That would largely defeat the purpose of it being called a migration considering the definition of the word :P But no a migration is as the name implies a move of the entire instance, if changing between actual datacenters you would lose the IP as millisa just noted |
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| 16:35 | <Rouge> | aha |
| 16:35 | <Rouge> | in that case |
| 16:35 | <Rouge> | great |
| 16:35 | <Rouge> | im just worried if i do migration i would lose all of the files |
| 16:37 | <LouWestin> | Backup first and always |
| 16:37 | <LouWestin> | !backups |
| 16:37 | <linbot> | You should probably have backups. If you don't want to set up your own, use Linode Backups. Prices start at $ 2.00/month depending on your plan. https://www.linode.com/backups |
| 16:44 | <Rouge> | ok |
| 16:44 | <Rouge> | thanks |
| 16:44 | <Rouge> | ok 1 more thing |
| 16:44 | <Rouge> | about the tcl scsripts |
| 16:45 | <Rouge> | to be configure for an eggdrop |
| 16:45 | <Rouge> | where can i have it? |
| 16:51 | <warewolf> | wow, eggdrops. |
| 16:51 | <gparent> | wasn't eggdrop pre-computer era? |
| 16:56 | <nb> | wow, eggdrops? |
| 17:00 | <Rouge> | yeah |
| 17:00 | <Rouge> | tcl scripts |
| 17:00 | <Rouge> | like the linbot just now |
| 17:01 | <Rouge> | command by ! |
| 17:01 | <Abi12> | hah. I bought a pack of laptop stickers and 'kubernetes' is in here. |
| 17:01 | <Abi12> | Any plans for a linode sticker? :P |
| 17:01 | <millisa> | or pay for swag in general? |
| 17:03 | <millisa> | Merchandising! Where the real money from hosting is made! Linode the T-shirt, Linode the Coloring Book, Linode the Breakfast Cereal, Linode the Flame Thrower |
| 17:04 | <Abi12> | planning reppin' linode green baggy jeans and a 'L' chain. |
| 17:04 | <LouWestin> | I’d buy a shirt |
| 17:04 | <gparent> | maybe I could pay for virtual stickers that I can add to my VMs |
| 17:05 | <Abi12> | maybe some linode hollistic healing crystals. |
| 17:05 | <Abi12> | _invest here_ |
| 17:06 | <linbot> | New news from community: Will Linode offer a cloud firewall? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18262> |
| 17:09 | <Abi12> | oh. seems like they used to sell shirts @ cafepress at cost. Link seems to be broken now. |
| 17:09 | <Abi12> | i look kinda weird in t-shirts anyway.. so maybe that's for the best.. |
| 17:11 | <armiller8> | Linode socks are where it's at |
| 17:14 | <nb> | If you come to a conference that Linode is at, they have a lot of free tshirts and stickers |
| 17:14 | <nb> | one time they had power banks |
| 17:15 | <nb> | Rouge, you might look at supybot |
| 17:15 | <nb> | it's a lot newer than eggdrop |
| 17:15 | <Rouge> | nb: : supybot? is it a website? |
| 17:16 | <millisa> | or limnoria? https://limnoria.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ |
| 17:16 | <Abi12> | irc bot. |
| 17:18 | <Rouge> | aha thanks |
| 17:18 | <Rouge> | let me see it |
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| 20:16 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I view my Linode's Hardware from the Dashboard? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18263> |
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