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| 07:01 | <wtp> | Hello. |
| 07:03 | <rsdehart> | !ask |
| 07:03 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 07:03 | <rsdehart> | hi wtp |
| 07:03 | <rsdehart> | sometimes people are busy and not up for chit chat but are willing to answer questions |
| 07:04 | <rsdehart> | welcome to community chat |
| 07:09 | <wtp> | I was hoping that there might be some Linode staff online here. My question was about account review -- I just made the mistake of trying to sign up while using my work VPN -- and the account was rejected. :-( I'm trying again with the VPN disabled ... so hopefully it will work this time... but might need some hand-holding if it still does not work. (I have had a Linode before for several years |
| 07:09 | <wtp> | ... but didn't really use it ... so I'm also wondering if that could be a factor?) |
| 07:10 | <khaberz> | Nut sure why logging on from VPN would be a problem at all? |
| 07:12 | <Peng> | likely makes the fraud check antsy |
| 07:14 | <rsdehart> | I tend to see people coming in looking for staff right about now when it's *juuust* before the day shift comes on |
| 07:16 | <wtp> | Sorry ... |
| 07:17 | <wtp> | Probably just the fraud check getting the heebie-jeebies. |
| 07:17 | <rsdehart> | you've done nothing wrong. There are staff around, they're just usually busy overnight |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | but I think the daytime people tend to be more active in the channel |
| 07:18 | <wtp> | Sleep is important.... |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | or maybe it's confirmation bias |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | well, I meant the night shift |
| 07:18 | <wtp> | It worked this time ... so my anxiety was misplaced. |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | phew |
| 07:18 | <wtp> | Thank you anyway! |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | congrats :) |
| 07:18 | <wtp> | :D |
| 07:18 | <rsdehart> | and welcome back |
| 07:18 | <wtp> | Well ... Linode is awesome ... |
| 07:19 | <wtp> | I was just ... maybe a little optimistic about how soon I'd need it before. |
| 07:19 | <wtp> | (By about 8 years ... hehehe) |
| 07:29 | <cruxeternus> | It's never too soon to Linode. |
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| 07:35 | <rsdehart> | Linode early, Linode often. |
| 07:35 | <JamesTK> | Linode by day, Something by night? |
| 07:36 | <rsdehart> | No, JamesTK. Nothing like that at all |
| 07:36 | <rsdehart> | :D |
| 07:36 | <JamesTK> | !!! |
| 07:36 | <JamesTK> | Linode by day, Linode by night |
| 07:36 | <JamesTK> | Better? |
| 07:37 | <rsdehart> | yeah, probably |
| 07:37 | <rsdehart> | I was just being contrary at first, though |
| 07:37 | <JamesTK> | fair :P |
| 07:37 | <rsdehart> | sometimes it be like that |
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| 07:41 | <rsdehart> | I'm sure spiki agrees |
| 07:41 | <rsdehart> | spiki: do it sometimes be like that? |
| 07:41 | <rsdehart> | I'm told it do |
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| 07:49 | <pwoods1> | wtp: Hi, staff here! o/ If your account is under review, make sure to check your inbox for emails as we may ask for additional information. |
| 08:04 | <linbot> | New news from community: Use Dedicated CPU or High memory plan for production DB? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18303> |
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| 08:34 | <linbot> | New news from community: Galera node will not come up <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18304> |
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| 09:29 | <linbot> | New news from community: Certbot setup failed <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18305> |
| 09:46 | <kharlan11> | that title has little to do with the actual issue. |
| 09:55 | <JamesTK> | quality |
| 10:26 | <LouWestin> | I ran certbot from eff’s instructions. Maybe Linode’s guide is outdated? |
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| 11:00 | <gustavodsf> | Good morning |
| 11:00 | <millisa> | greetings |
| 11:00 | <gustavodsf> | I have a problem to authenticate on linode, because I had to format my phone |
| 11:00 | <millisa> | as in a 2fa issue? |
| 11:01 | <gustavodsf> | yes |
| 11:01 | <millisa> | use your scratch code and get back in that way |
| 11:01 | <gustavodsf> | how can i found this scratch code |
| 11:02 | <gustavodsf> | i looked it on my email but i cant find it, and I have to change my credit card, because of the billing |
| 11:02 | <millisa> | If you don't have it from when you setup, you're going to have to contact support |
| 11:02 | <LouWestin> | You have to have it written down when you setup 2fa |
| 11:02 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/linode-manager-security-controls/#recovery-procedure |
| 11:04 | <gustavodsf> | I dont write it down, |
| 11:04 | <gustavodsf> | thanks i will send a email |
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| 11:06 | <LouWestin> | I use a couple backup password vaults to keep a copy of the 2fa key because googles auth doesn’t save it if your phone is wiped |
| 11:06 | <dwfreed> | I store my 2fa key on my yubikey |
| 11:08 | <LouWestin> | I have a key Authenticator. I don’t know if Linode allows those yet |
| 11:11 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I wish I could give linbot's !ask response to people who message me on work IM with "Hi" |
| 11:15 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: Yubico Authenticator serves the same purpose as Google Authenticator, but stores the keys on the yubikey; most useful with NFC-capable yubikeys, unless you want to buy a usb-host adapter |
| 11:20 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed: Ok, what I have is from the same company, but slightly different. I forget it’s called since I have my keys at home. |
| 11:21 | <LouWestin> | Wait, I mean I have the Authenticator key. |
| 11:21 | <LouWestin> | I might get the YubiKey just for an extra backup |
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| 11:27 | <LouWestin> | I bought mine a few years ago when it was just being introduced and only worked with the Chrome browser |
| 11:28 | <FluffyFoxeh> | I wish people would stop with the SMS-based 2FA crap and use TOTP |
| 11:29 | <LouWestin> | My bank and my one job’s benefit site needs to stop that |
| 11:29 | <FluffyFoxeh> | yes, my bank does it too |
| 11:29 | <LouWestin> | Smaller bank though |
| 11:29 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Some of these things don't even accept my cell number because it's a VoIP number |
| 11:29 | <FluffyFoxeh> | hah |
| 11:29 | <FluffyFoxeh> | mine is a big bank |
| 11:29 | <FluffyFoxeh> | it's appalling |
| 11:29 | <LouWestin> | Essh... |
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| 11:44 | <dwfreed> | FluffyFoxeh: I am fortunate in that nobody can port my number, and I doubt project fi support could be social engineered to do it |
| 11:44 | <dwfreed> | but yes, SMS 2fa is still bad |
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| 11:45 | <nb> | dwfreed, am curious, how do yu make it so no one can port your number? |
| 11:45 | <FluffyFoxeh> | what does porting a number mean? |
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| 11:47 | <JamesTK> | nb: some telcos have stuff like pins you can add but none are foolproof |
| 11:47 | <dwfreed> | nb: project fi will reject all ports until you enable it |
| 11:47 | <nb> | dwfreed, oh cool |
| 11:47 | <dwfreed> | FluffyFoxeh: porting means transferring your number to another carrier or another SIM |
| 11:47 | <JamesTK> | dwfreed: annoyed there isn't similar in aus |
| 11:47 | <FluffyFoxeh> | People can do that without permission? |
| 11:48 | <dwfreed> | yesish |
| 11:48 | <dwfreed> | social engineering, mostly |
| 11:49 | <JamesTK> | to the point that even if a telco had a block they would social engineer its removal |
| 11:49 | <FluffyFoxeh> | Bad |
| 11:52 | <Peng> | 1.) Get rich. |
| 11:52 | <Peng> | 2.) Build your house on 1 Don't Port My Fucking Number Lane |
| 11:52 | <Peng> | 3.) Probably get your number ported anyway |
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| 11:54 | <JamesTK> | :D |
| 11:54 | <JamesTK> | 4.) build out your own DNS on PoweDNS cos why not |
| 11:54 | <JamesTK> | *PowerDNS |
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| 12:23 | <Peng> | !wx ksfb |
| 12:23 | <linbot> | Peng: [metar] OBS at KSFB: 91.4F/33C, visibility 10 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 97.19F (altimeter: 30.05) [KSFB 041553Z 07007KT 10SM FEW038 SCT050 33/22 A3005 RMK AO2 SLP175 T03280217] |
| 12:27 | <dwfreed> | 97F |
| 12:27 | <dwfreed> | how nice |
| 12:31 | <@mcintosh> | !wx kphl |
| 12:31 | <linbot> | mcintosh: [metar] OBS at KPHL: 66.2F/19C, visibility 10 miles, wind 11.51 mph, chill 65.87F (altimeter: 30.16) [KPHL 041554Z 21010KT 10SM FEW300 19/02 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP214 T01940017] |
| 12:32 | <nobaudy> | !wx kden |
| 12:33 | <linbot> | nobaudy: [metar] OBS at KDEN: 71.6F/22C, visibility 10 miles, wind 0.00 mph, chill N/A (altimeter: 30.07) [KDEN 041553Z 00000KT 10SM FEW090 FEW120 22/05 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP120 T02170050] |
| 12:33 | <nobaudy> | i'll take 66 or 71 over 97 thanks. |
| 12:34 | <JamesTK> | !wx YSSY |
| 12:34 | <linbot> | JamesTK: [metar] OBS at YSSY: 50.0F/10C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 16.11 mph, chill 44.39F (altimeter: 30.150112643) [YSSY 041600Z 25014KT 9999 VCSH FEW030 SCT050 BKN070 10/09 Q1021 INTER 1600/1900 ] |
| 12:34 | <JamesTK> | it's coldish here |
| 12:34 | <dwfreed> | !wx kamn |
| 12:34 | <linbot> | dwfreed: [metar] OBS at KAMN: 75.2F/24C, visibility 10 miles, wind 13.81 mph, chill 76.99F (altimeter: 29.97) [KAMN 041615Z AUTO 24012G16KT 10SM SCT075 SCT100 24/10 A2997 RMK AO2 T02420102] |
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| 12:34 | <dwfreed> | ooh, 77 |
| 12:34 | <JamesTK> | !wx damn |
| 12:34 | <Cardinal> | Hello |
| 12:34 | <linbot> | JamesTK: [metar] DAMN: not data available, valid code? |
| 12:34 | <JamesTK> | damn |
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| 12:35 | <JamesTK> | damn^ |
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| 13:17 | <linbot> | New news from community: Feature Request: More stackscript features. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18306> |
| 13:18 | <LouWestin> | For Sprint, we have a pin code that needs to be used for porting the number |
| 13:57 | <linbot> | New news from community: Boot server directly with iso image <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18308> || Boot server directly with iso image <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18307> |
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| 14:26 | <Zr40> | !wx eheh |
| 14:26 | <linbot> | Zr40: [metar] OBS at EHEH: 80.6F/27C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 84.03F (altimeter: 29.559512983) [EHEH 041755Z AUTO 12007KT 070V160 9999 BKN150 OVC270 27/16 Q1001 BLU 11011G22KT ] |
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| 14:57 | <nb> | !urmom |
| 14:57 | <linbot> | Yo mommas so fat, she couldnt fit into a TB of RAM. (38:0/1) [romum] |
| 14:57 | <nb> | !wx kevv |
| 14:57 | <linbot> | nb: [metar] OBS at KEVV: 80.6F/27C, visibility 10 miles, wind 9.21 mph, chill 83.99F (altimeter: 30.01) [KEVV 041854Z 21008KT 10SM SCT065 BKN080 27/13 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP160 T02720133] |
| 14:57 | <millisa> | ad for the new mac pro? |
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| 15:10 | <csnxs> | !wx egnx |
| 15:10 | <linbot> | csnxs: [metar] OBS at EGNX: 53.6F/12C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 5.75 mph, chill 52.07F (altimeter: 29.529983) [EGNX 041850Z 15005KT 9999 FEW004 BKN028 BKN040 12/12 Q1000 RERA] |
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| 15:18 | <dwfreed> | !wx kamn |
| 15:18 | <linbot> | dwfreed: [metar] OBS at KAMN: 73.4F/23C, visibility 10 miles, wind 19.56 mph, chill 74.32F (altimeter: 29.92) [KAMN 041915Z AUTO 24017G25KT 10SM OVC080 23/09 A2992 RMK AO2 T02310090] |
| 15:32 | <linbot> | New news from community: TENDO ERROS DEVIDO A PERMISSÕES INCORRETAS <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18309> |
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| 20:57 | <gecco> | THANK YOU LINODE FOR NOT TURNING OFF MY ACCOUNT AFTER MY SCRIPT WENT ROGUE! -Digital Ocean |
| 20:57 | <gecco> | THANK YOU LINODE FOR NOT TURNING OFF MY ACCOUNT, EVER! |
| 20:57 | <gecco> | AND |
| 20:58 | <gecco> | TAHNK YOU LINODE FOR USING ***REAL HUMANS*** IN YOUR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES |
| 20:58 | <gecco> | Tell your marketing department to take full advantage of digital oceans fiasco to point out to everyone, that we don't have to take to twitter, to get help... |
| 20:59 | <gecco> | Alright, I'll go back to my reguarly scheduled programming now, no nightmares, as the majority of my critical shit is in your data center and not someone elses |
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| 21:12 | <MrPPS> | am confuse |
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| 21:14 | <dwfreed> | MrPPS: a dude posted on twitter that his 2 person company basically got shut down because digitalocean's automated detection thought he was fraud because he was spinning up nodes really fast and then deleting them shortly thereafter |
| 21:15 | <dwfreed> | and after they said he was good, it happened again, and that time they decided to cancel his account |
| 21:15 | <MrPPS> | haha; have you got a link to the twitter thread by any chance? |
| 21:15 | <MrPPS> | nvm I think I found |
| 21:16 | <dwfreed> | https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089 |
| 21:17 | <dwfreed> | DO's official response after the incident: https://twitter.com/digitalocean/status/1136049647871545344 |
| 21:17 | <MrPPS> | cheers |
| 21:18 | <dwfreed> | moisey uretsky (one of the founders) chimed in this part of the thread: https://twitter.com/freefazee/status/1134537694573473800 |
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| 21:48 | <millisa> | meh. dude shouldn't be relying on a sole provider for their services and backups. i feel for him though |
| 21:53 | <LouWestin> | DO was basically like trust is important, we’re sorry. |
| 21:55 | <millisa> | very southpark/cable company |
| 21:58 | <millisa> | their blog post seems ok |
| 22:01 | <dwfreed> | I mean, except for the 12 hour response time during the middle of the US Eastern workday |
| 22:02 | <dwfreed> | and only after the customer poked support on social media and they poked the abuse team |
| 22:02 | <millisa> | Yeah, they appear to be acknowledging and owning that bit |
| 22:03 | <MrPPS> | yeah that does seem a tad excessive |
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| 23:46 | <MJCS> | I'll get an MTR in a bit but has anyone been getting packet loss / high latency between Australia and Freemont? |
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