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---Logopened Thu Jun 13 00:00:22 2019
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01:05<matrix>Require assistance with setup
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01:19<Cromulent>matrix: what help do you need?
01:19<Cromulent>there are lots of tutorial documents on the linode website under the guides section
01:20<matrix>subscription based proxy setup
01:20<matrix>documentation is not sufficient enough for what I have in mind
01:20<Cromulent>ah I've got no idea when it comes to that - maybe someone else will be able to help you if you stick around
01:22<Guest4389>Might help to give a little more detail on what sort of assistance you're looking for - what apps you're working with, for example.
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01:30<matrix>One of our Telcos (ISP) allows for a fixed monthly rate to allow for website owners to allow them to have their customers visit the site free of charge. This means no data cost to the users as long as they are connected to the ISP (via WIFI, mobile, fibre, ADSL+2). What we want: What we want to do is, we want to set up a subscription based proxy server where we can allow subscribers to pay to have access to only selected websites listed on the proxy lan
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02:37<Luckst0r_>vps got migrated in tokyo
02:37<Luckst0r_>ip changed with the migration :S
02:40<Peng>Tokyo 1 and Tokyo 2 have separate networks. :X
02:47<Luckst0r_>yeah thats cool
02:47<Luckst0r_>just there was no mention of an ip change in the migration notice :S
02:47<Luckst0r_>that default TTL is gunna hurt heh
02:47<Peng>That sounds like a mistake or emergency.
02:48<Peng>If I remember correctly, people have got Tokyo migration tickets that *did* mention the IP change.
02:48<Luckst0r_>im getting client to send me the whole notice
02:48<Luckst0r_>so i can throw it back in their face basically
02:52<Luckst0r_>*slaps client around a bit with a large trout*
03:47<nate>Hm, wonder if I finally do the pending upgrades for my linodes if they'll be fixed ahead of time or still end up restarted later on
04:04<Peng>Probably fixed
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05:08<linbot>New news from community: Email Communication Between Domains <>
05:17<@jcardillo>nate: Yes, if you take the pending upgrades they'll be migrated to patched hosts :)
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07:20<nate>cool, cause I think every one of my linodes has a pending upgrade so lol
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10:06<softinio2>so I use my linode to develop software on mainly scala
10:07<softinio2>would i benefit by going for a dedicated instance ?
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10:13<alan>hola, I have an odd request but essentially I'm trying to renew a certificate for a client site. I'm not sure how they initially setup the letsencrypt ssl, since certbot isn't installed and am not familiar with other tools they might have used. Is there any way of finding out how it got generated?
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10:15<DrJ>alan: it really doesn't matter how they got the cert originally. You can set up the method you prefer at this time
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10:15<alan>they dont use port 80 so certbot doesnt work to renew i tried
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10:16<LouWestin>You’d use port 443
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10:16<alan>but when i run certbot it doesnt work
10:17<LouWestin>I should clarify that you’d have port 443 open
10:17<LouWestin>Certbot should say why it failed
10:18<alan> Unable to find a virtual host listening on port 80 which is currently needed for Certbot to prove to the CA that you control your domain. Please add a virtual host for port 80.
10:18<alan>see ^
10:18<DrJ>certbot uses port 80, not 443
10:18<LouWestin>Maybe port 80 is not open
10:19<DrJ>alan: one solution is to simply install a lightweight http deamon and configure certbot to put the challenge in its http docs location
10:19<alan>is there a way to find out how it got previously installed
10:19<DrJ>you could also script it so the httpd deamon is started right before the cert renewal process and stopped immediately after
10:19<alan>checking the .conf file perhaps where the previous ssl was insertted?
10:19<DrJ>another option is using DNS-01 challenge
10:20<LouWestin>443 for the normal SSL traffic. But now I know about certbot
10:20<alan>certbot adds comments im sure other tools would 2?
10:20<LouWestin>What’s the site’s url?
10:20<alan>I'll pm you
10:22<LouWestin>Ok port 80 and 443 are indeed open, plus the site shows up secured. That rules the obvious, but very oddd
10:23<DrJ>port 443 is, again, irrelevant for http challenge
10:23<DrJ>only port 80 is used
10:24<DrJ>he's probably trying to renew before it expires... could still be a configuration issue, such as the challenge not being published to the right directory
10:24<LouWestin>I know, just double checking.
10:24<LouWestin>He has cloudflare ssl right now
10:24<LouWestin>And hang on
10:25<LouWestin>Expires May 5th next year
10:25<LouWestin>Maybe it’s a config file conflict with cloudflare?
10:26<DrJ>is the cert he's trying to renew for his web server?
10:26<DrJ>I kind of got the vibe it's for something else
10:27<LouWestin>When I pulled up his site that he pm’d me the current site shows cloudflare not let’s encrypt
10:28<DrJ>which further makes me think maybe the cert is for something else
10:28<alan>client receive a letsencrypt stating in 10 days itll expire
10:29<Peng>Could be using a Let's Encrypt certificate to protect the Cloudflare-to-origin connection.
10:29<DrJ>alan: maybe they used letsencrypt prior and switched to another provider
10:29<Peng>Or not using it at all.
10:29<alan>june 22nd its expiring
10:29<Peng>Or they're still using Let's Encrypt and added or removed some hostnames.
10:29<alan>mmm could be
10:29<linbot>New news from community: Longview - should it update when not looking? <>
10:29<alan>i can check the ssl in the serveer ?
10:29<DrJ>what you need to determine alan is exactly what that letsencrypt cert was or is being used for
10:29<alan>Dr: will do
10:30<LouWestin>Beyond that address, I have no idea.
10:31<LouWestin>Certbot should say what address it’s for... but maybe it’s a wildcard cert?
10:34<alan>how do i find . conf i cant find it
10:37<LouWestin>If you’re running Apache it should be under /etc/Apache2/
10:46<akerl>This feels like a lot of meandering? The error is pretty straightforward: certbot looks for a virtual host config that’s handling port 80, so it can futz with it to handle the challenge, and it can’t find one. Does one exist?
10:49<Peng>But if the certificate is being managed by some other client, *also* installing Certbot and making a separate one could cause more problems than it solves.
10:57<alan>i see plesk
10:57<alan>i think plesk is doing something
10:59<nate>I don't think plesk does automatic certificate stuff does it? Or did they start doing it when cPanel started autossl
11:00<alan>i found the .conf
11:00<alan>would sending it help?
11:00<alan>i see acme-challenge stuff?
11:22<akerl>So yea, looks like plesk is managing that
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12:07<@mcintosh>!point mcintosh
12:07<linbot>mcintosh: 1,000,000 points for mcintosh!!!
12:08<LouWestin>How the hell does he do it?
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12:31<scrane>LouWestin He must know someone on the inside.
12:39<csnxs>!point mcintosh
12:39<linbot>csnxs: Point given to mcintosh. (16)
12:40<csnxs>and now linbot is ignoring me :(
12:41<@pwoods>!point csnxs
12:41<linbot>pwoods: Point given to csnxs. (18)
12:45<v0lksman>so if I have received a notice about nodes under my account that need the new patch is that the only notice I will recieve? in other words if only 50% of my nodes are currently scheduled for an upgrade is that all that will be affected?
12:45<v0lksman>or am I going to get a notice for the others as well?
12:50<Peng>...Same question.
12:50<Eugene>!lick zifnab
12:50<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (27) (Biggest fan: eugene, total: 24)
12:56<LouWestin>scrane: Someone better look over the source code. ;-)
12:56<@mcintosh>v0lksman: there are a few variables that might result in a Linode not requiring maintenance - if you have questions about yours, it'd be easiest for us to answer via support ticket (so we can look at your account)
12:57<@mcintosh>Peng: meaning you have the same question? :p
12:57<Peng>mcintosh: Yes. :D
12:58<v0lksman>well I'm kinda honoured to ask a Q that Peng a) doesn't know the answer to and b) is tagging on... :)
12:58<LouWestin>I haven’t gotten any emails yet, but only one would be affected since it’s an intel processor.
12:58<Peng>Ha. That's a good way to know you don't need maintenance. :D
12:59<LouWestin>Totally True. I’m not worried about that one though.
12:59<@mcintosh>LouWestin: all the notifications have been sent, so your Linode is likely on an already patched machine
13:00<@mcintosh>(but feel free to open a ticket for clarity)
13:00<@mcintosh>(you too, Peng)
13:00<v0lksman>oh all notices have been sent?
13:00<v0lksman>yesterday I read in here that they hadn't (by a staffer)
13:00<v0lksman>and any new node I spin up will already be patched correct?
13:00<Peng>Ah, that's good :D
13:01<@pwoods>v0lksman: the last of the tickets went out yesterday
13:01<@mcintosh>v0lksman: yes/yes
13:01<v0lksman>fantastic! Few hours of work to shuffle our nodes around and avoid any outage!
13:01<v0lksman>thanks guys
13:01<@mcintosh>I can't find someone saying the notices were still going out in my scrollback (I only kinda checked, though)
13:02<LouWestin>Ok, eh... It’s a low traffic web server so I don’t think I’ll worry enough for a ticket.
13:02<@mcintosh>but if someone said that, they were mistaken :)
13:02<v0lksman>no clue who it was but it was early in the day so maybe they meant they were still flying
13:02<millisa>except for you saying it 2 days ago
13:02<v0lksman>based on what pwoods just said
13:02<v0lksman>hrm...maybe it was 2 days ago....time flies
13:03<alan>!points mcintosh
13:03<LouWestin>I believe it was yesterday or two days they mentioned notices were going out
13:03<alan>!poins mcintosh
13:03<alan>!point mcintosh
13:03<linbot>alan: Point given to mcintosh. (17) (Biggest fan: csnxs, total: 7)
13:03<millisa>you were probably thinking of this:
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13:04<@mcintosh>oh hey - that's me!
13:04<LouWestin>millisa: yeah was the conversation I remember
13:04<@mcintosh>indeed - notices were all sent by that evening
13:04<millisa>or a reasonable enough facsimile
13:04<millisa>speaking of faxes...
13:05<LouWestin>Running my own efax server might be handy...although I don’t out many faxes
13:07<Eugene>.....factorio combinators can produce sound (via speakers). Can you send a factoriofax?
13:08<millisa>300 baud belt
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13:22<LouWestin>Today’s kids will never know the sound of dial tone and analog modem pairing
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14:00<linbot>New news from community: eeror adding 2 Domain to Apache virtual host <>
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15:58<segv>anyone else getting significant amounts of ddos backscatter from brazil? I'm getting about 10Mbps of ICMP and unknown UDP inbound on my server in Dallas. This is the third day.
15:59<millisa>haven't noticed it and I have a majority in dallas. what tool are you using to see it?
16:00<segv>I see it in the dashboard metrics and tcpdump. I'm definitely not originating the traffic. I've been keeping a close eye on outbound traffic and there is nothing out of the ordinary.
16:03<millisa>just did a quick sampling of a half dozen dallas nodes. only 1 typically sees traffic that high and it doesn't look abnormal. normal looking sin waves for me.
16:03<segv>The UDP are short packets of 56 to 76 bytes, these are all being dropped by my iptables firewall. The ICMP messages are port unreachable and host unreachable messages, the majority of which are originating from Brazil.
16:03<segv>OK, I'm guessing they're spoofing and using my IP, and I'm seeing the backscatter.
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16:07<segv>millisa: thank you for your help
16:07<millisa>sure thing - definitely should open a ticket even if no one else is getting it.
16:08<millisa>(or you could do an IP swap just to get away from it if that's not too painful for your setup)
16:10<segv>I'll open a ticket, but I doubt there is anything that could be done other than an IP swap, given the nature of the beast.
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16:14<waterpeace>Hello .
16:14<millisa>Greetings .
16:15<waterpeace>i had questions about Linode and its services I am in the right place?
16:15<millisa>You're in the right place
16:15<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
16:17<waterpeace>i am not a customer yet but wanted to find out plans pricing whats included... I wanted to have a vps where I can create small python applets or scripts and have them scheduled through cron to run.. I did not need to host any websites or huge applications yet.
16:17<millisa>You can do that.
16:17<millisa>They are unmanaged VPS that you get root access to (you pick what distribution you want to install)
16:18<waterpeace>if i run into trouble is there support good.. or do i need to come to a forum like this for help.
16:19<millisa>they are intended to be unmanaged. you'd be on your own for answers (unless it's something actually wrong with the host system itself).
16:19<millisa>they have a managed product that's more a 'break/fix' and they have professional services you can get custom quotes on
16:19<millisa>(their support is great for things that are inside their support boundary)
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16:20<waterpeace>what comes with standard or already configured on a system
16:21<waterpeace>say for instance i want to use "sendmail
16:21<millisa>other than the resource allocation and IP? not much. you pick an OS to deploy and from there it's up to you. Check out the getting started guide - it's pretty good at showing you what an initial spinup is like
16:22<millisa>which they have lots of docs at that could be useful to you
16:24<millisa>not related to what waterpeace was saying, but just saw this banner while looking at the docs page:
16:24<millisa>er, without screwing up their marketing metrics:
16:25<waterpeace>How is billing done. I see that some things have a monthly cost and an hourly cost..
16:25<gparent>It's the same cost.
16:26<millisa>You get billed hourly until you hit that monthly cap is the 'short' version
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16:31<waterpeace>Thanks millisa
16:32<LouWestin>Hourly is nice for testing stuff.
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16:36<millisa>poor mike
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16:55<LouWestin>waterpeace: Service is great, been here for over 4 years now.
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22:50<Rafy>how long does it take to activate my account
22:51<LouWestin>Not sure, you'd have to ask support. Usually not long.
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