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---Logopened Wed Jun 19 00:00:31 2019
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00:53<Nooo>Helllo Sys Admins , I got a message from Linode like on this 28 Linode is going to shut down my VPS for 2 Hrs! For Update.. How can i avoid downtime ?
01:00<Guest5088>There would also be messages on the related ticket (and subsequently emailed to you) explaining the outage and what might be done, if anything, to address it.
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01:10<Nooo>But I have 5 linodes in 4 datacenter! All of them are going to go down in couple of days :O ...
01:11<Nooo>How much of a performance Impact it will have? any rest results?
01:12<Nooo>My VPS will Drop 50% of its performance after this update?
01:17<Nooo>Few Questions 1) How much of a Performance Impact it is going to have after this update? 2) Turning off HT? 3) I am still Running Good old Debian 8 That will be an Issue? 4) Can i Switch IP of my Physical Machine to a NEW PATCHED MACHINE in the SAME datacenter RIGHT NOW? SO that i can Avoid DownTime :)
01:22<gparent>I'd suggest pasting those questions as a reply to the support ticket
01:33<Nooo>Sure! Thanks
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01:55<Rick_>Hi I have a query regarding the standard plans of Linode
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05:15<linbot>New news from community: Is there an invisible firewall somewhere? <>
05:25<linbot>New news from community: How can I check why my website was down? <>
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06:16<ewr>Can you give me some test IP?
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06:26<Zr40>oh, they're gone already
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09:16<nate>Interesting, so I'm not going nuts after all
09:17<nate>something on my linode IS disabling the autoconf and accept_ra config settings for some reason...
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09:17<linbot>that's debatable
09:18<nate>Doesn't seem like it's networkmanager as I don't see anything in it that should be doing that
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09:18<dwfreed>I would just replace NetworkMangler with network-scripts
09:18<dwfreed>they are much more predictable and much easier to audit, because it's just shell
09:19<nate>Well that's just it, networkmanager literally seems to just be passing off/invoking network-scripts
09:19<nate>The only thing network manager appears to be doing is setting privacy to 0 and add-gen-mode to eui64 on each boot
09:19<nate>so I'm digging through network-scripts now to see if that's where it is
09:20<nate>Well there we are; IPV6_AUTOCONF=no in the eth0 config
09:20<dwfreed>that'd do it
09:22<nate>Looks like something updated back in September (which is right around when I started running into this), replaced the linode default ifcfg-eth0 and copied it over to .ifcfg-eth0.linode-last
09:22<dwfreed>that would be network helper
09:23<nate>"# Generated by Linode Network Helper" so did the linode network helper accidentally disable it then? o_O
09:23<nate>or did I some how bugger it in my linode profile
09:24*nate checks manager
09:25<nate>God damnit that's what it's been this entire time, the option in the linode manager got toggled to 'No', I swear I never touched that lol
09:26<dwfreed>you probably had network helper enabled, disabled it, then made changes to the config file without taking that setting into account
09:26<dwfreed>(that setting being the IPV6_AUTOCONF one)
09:26<nate>If I did I legit can't remember it, I can't even think of anything I would have done that for on this particular linode
09:27<nate>in fact this thing actually was only even setup in early september so it would have had to be something I did like right after, hm
09:27*nate ponders doing some upgrades ahead of the maintenance restarts while he's in here
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13:14<Eugene>!lick zifnab
13:14<linbot>Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (30) (Biggest fan: eugene, total: 27)
13:14<zifnab>!help touch
13:14<zifnab>!help lick
13:14<linbot>zifnab: (lick <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title$nick/$1/".
13:15<zifnab>!alias add touch "web title$nick/$1/"
13:15<linbot>zifnab: I have performed your operation, meatsack. How does one make cheese with bacteria? I cannot understand you biologicals.
13:15<zifnab>!touch Eugene
13:15<linbot>zifnab: Point given to eugene. (84) (Biggest fan: jalter, total: 26)
13:15<zifnab>Eugene: why is jfk->sea less time than jfk -> mso :(
13:15<zifnab>another work trip the end of july
13:15<zifnab>debating flying somewhere for a week after for vacation
13:15<zifnab>*maybe* chicago
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13:28<millisa>centos kernels with the sack fix are out. kernel-3.10.0-957.21.3.el7 has it
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13:30<nate>I rolled out the firewall mitigation on just about everything early on
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13:34<nate>Did it get rolled out on the debian/ubuntu stuff yet? I haven't noticed any package update notifications from my ubuntu ones
13:37<millisa> doesn't mention it yet
13:39<millisa>er, or at least, the ones there don't touch cve-2019-11479 yet.
13:40<rnowak>the debian kernel has been updated fwiw, 4.9.168-1+deb9u3 for jessie contains the fixes
13:43<Peng>Ubuntu got 77 and 78 yesterday.
13:47<Eugene>Because wind
13:47<linbot>New news from community: Pvt network accross datacenters <> || Are images supposed to work across datacenters? <>
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14:17<mmustac>bbigger is a really based name. o7
14:29<linbot>New news from blog: Linode turns 16: Triples Dedicated plan storage, halves NodeBalancer cost <>
14:31<LouWestin>Thanks Chris!
14:40<Peng>: O
14:57<linbot>New news from community: Certbot with Tomcat9 <>
15:03<mmustac>does linode have an offical community chat on any other services such as Telegram, Discord, or sighhh....slack?
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15:37<linbot>New news from community: How do I install a new ssl certificate? <>
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16:59<b_>for the Dedicated server: what is the CPU specs?
17:03<LouWestin>That depends on what CPU you get
17:04<LouWestin>they're randomly assigned. You might get an Intel E5 or AMD Gold
17:04<b_>even for dedicated server? I am looking at Dedicated 4GB with 2 CPU Cores. - I want to know the CPU Specs...
17:05<LouWestin>^ see above what I mentioned
17:06<b_>what is GHz? if you can elaborate
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17:06<LouWestin>GHz is the speed of the processor
17:07<b_>do you know what is the speed?
17:08<millisa>usually in the 2-3ghz range...
17:08<LouWestin>Not off hand
17:08<b_>and dedicated server mean that I get the entire process just for my instance?
17:08<millisa>you get a core
17:08<millisa>well, whatever number of cores that plan has
17:09<b_>the plan has 2 cores
17:09<millisa>then you'd get that
17:09<b_>so I get minimun of 2 GHZ * 2cores
17:09<LouWestin>2 dedicated cores
17:09<millisa>You'd get 2 cores of whatever processor you end up on.
17:10<b_>should I go with Ubuntu 19.04 OR Ubuntu 18.04
17:10<b_>Ubuntu 18.04 is a LTS but Ubuntu 19.04 is not
17:11<millisa>Whatever makes sense for you. Personally, I prefer long term support setups.
17:11<b_>ok thank you
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17:12<b_>why is Linode not making Ubuntu 18.04 LTS as default and putting in older section
17:12<LouWestin>Personally I prefer Debian, but that's me
17:13<millisa>and the gpu plans just showed up on the pricing page ;)
17:13<b_>python computation for statistics goes well with ubuntu or debian?
17:13*LouWestin whistles...
17:15<LouWestin>It's really going to depend on if Debian or Ubuntu has the package version(s) you need.
17:15<LouWestin>Ubuntu will generally offer newer packages
17:15<millisa>I wonder how the mid-month billing will work on a new account that tries to spinup a Dedicated 128GB + RTX6000 GPU x4...
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17:16<LouWestin>isn't there a certain amount cap where they bill you?
17:16<millisa>Most of the recent accounts I've done get the $50 threshold
17:18<LouWestin>doing the math means you'll be hitting $133.33 a day
17:18<millisa>some days would be a triple bill day
17:20<LouWestin>You would get billed almost every 9 hours
17:22<millisa>time to convert the nanode
17:23<b_>ok thanks for the feedback millisa, LouWestin
17:23<LouWestin>You’re welcome
17:23<millisa>b_: if you haven't already - check out the getting started guide
17:29<linbot>New news from blog: Introducing Linode GPU Instances <>
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17:37<Peng>: O
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17:39<Peng>I am not buying one.
17:39<millisa> you are right. 2 is much more prudent.
17:39<Peng>Yes, redundancy is important.
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17:50<DrJ>so the coming object storage... would that be suitable for my use case: I archive audio every 15 minutes and then save the file indefinatly. Once saved it never changes.
18:00<linbot>New news from community: How do I report a blacklist issue for a li-node subnet? <>
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18:12<kharlan11>lol holy shit
18:12<kharlan11>1 grand?
18:13<LouWestin>Gotta keep those miners away
18:13<kharlan11>and make all that chaching back
18:14<millisa>I do want to try prepping a nanode with hashcat, then doing a resize to the big one for an hour then size it back
18:14<dwfreed>the MSRP for the graphics card is 4k
18:14*LouWestin whistles
18:15<LouWestin>What would be an application that would benefit from the gpu?
18:16<kharlan11>besides mining?
18:16<dwfreed>as millisa just mentioned, hashcat
18:16<millisa>they have a link for that even. not sure why they didnt put it in the blog
18:16<LouWestin>kharlan11: yeah. Ok gotta read that
18:16<millisa>they carefully don't mention hashcat type uses
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19:40<dwfreed>linbot: errno 5
19:40<linbot>dwfreed: EIO (#5): Input/output error
19:46<Ikaros>That's not a good error to see, usually
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20:18<capuk[m]>>so the coming object storage... would that be suitable for my use case: I archive audio every 15 minutes and then save the file indefinatly. Once saved it never changes.
20:18<capuk[m]>@drj It depends, are u making the archives publicly available? If so then maybe. Are u using some kind of version control on the archives like git? Then maybe I would use something like block storage
20:24<dwfreed>version control on binary data sucks
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20:33<jjjj>looking for assitance
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21:18<LouWestin>some of these folks like to quit after not getting a response in 10 seconds
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21:21<b_>I enabled 2fa on Linode but its not working
21:22<b_>there is no save button and if I change tabs, the settings get reset
21:22<b_>is this a `high priority bug` ?
21:22<LouWestin>It's not letting you login or...?
21:22<b_>its not saving the settings
21:22<b_>I logged out and logged in, and it did not ask me for 2FA
21:22<b_>basically we cannot save 2fa setting
21:23<b_>I went to
21:23<b_>there is no save button for 2FA... i assume it was supposed to save automatically
21:23<LouWestin>did you check the remember this computer for 30 days?
21:23<b_>yes I did.. but thats not the point.. when I go to, it is disabled
21:23<b_>even after I enable it
21:24<b_>there is a toggle button for enable/disable 2FA
21:24<LouWestin>Hmm... odd
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21:25<LouWestin>well he gone
21:40<dwfreed>he probably didn't complete the enabling
22:09<LouWestin>I did it back on the old site and it’s been so long that I can’t even remember the steps
22:10<LouWestin>I had to login to my account just to see the settings
22:10<linbot>New news from community: My server can't connect to outside <>
22:11<retro|blah>Community != tickets
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22:49<baroigames>help me please
22:49<baroigames>My account in linode has not been activated what do I do?
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