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| 04:48 | <Aaron_> | Anyone know if/when linode is going to be introducing firewalls |
| 04:49 | <Aaron_> | I just switched today and was surprised no network level option available |
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| 05:10 | <sim> | Hello, I am not able to login to server via ssh root |
| 05:12 | <sim> | ? |
| 05:13 | <grawity> | sim: are you able to log in through the web console (Lish or Glish)? |
| 05:13 | <sim> | nope |
| 05:14 | <sim> | not even through that |
| 05:14 | <sim> | i tried changing passwords |
| 05:14 | <sim> | even rebuit |
| 05:14 | <sim> | build* |
| 05:14 | <sim> | same.. |
| 05:14 | <sim> | incorrect password |
| 05:14 | <grawity> | make sure Caps Lock is not enabled >_> |
| 05:15 | <grawity> | use the control panel to boot into the Finnix rescue ISO, then Lish/Glish should give you a recovery console |
| 05:15 | <sim> | just got this message: Linode NAME-here has been booted by the Lassie watchdog service. |
| 05:15 | <sim> | caps is fine.. i tried copy pasting |
| 05:16 | <grawity> | which distro are you using? |
| 05:16 | <sim> | CoreOS Container Linux Disk |
| 05:16 | <sim> | cent os |
| 05:17 | <sim> | whats "Lassie watchdog service" |
| 05:19 | <grawity> | a Linode thing that automatically starts the server again if it shuts down on its own |
| 05:19 | <sim> | can you look into it ? |
| 05:19 | <grawity> | no, it's your server |
| 05:20 | <sim> | support ? |
| 05:20 | <grawity> | I'm not an employee; open a ticket if you want actual Linode staff to look into it |
| 05:20 | <sim> | ohk. |
| 05:20 | <sim> | can you explain a bit |
| 05:20 | <sim> | "use the control panel to boot into the Finnix rescue ISO, then Lish/Glish should give you a recovery console" |
| 05:20 | <grawity> | though I would suggest to first see if the Finnix console works properly in general; if it does, use it to 1) check the CentOS system logs, 2) chroot into CentOS and change the root password using `passwd` |
| 05:21 | <grawity> | IIRC should be enough to use this https://i.imgur.com/BKeAjv1.png |
| 05:23 | <sim> | ohk |
| 05:23 | <sim> | thanks |
| 05:25 | <sim> | root@ttyS0:~# whoami |
| 05:25 | <sim> | root |
| 05:26 | <grawity> | that's the recovery system's root, not quite the same as the real CentOS system's root |
| 05:26 | <sim> | Yea.. but what logs should i check |
| 05:27 | <sim> | root@ttyS0:/var/log# ls alternatives.log btmp dpkg.log interfaces lp-acct samba wtmp apt dmesg faillog iptraf lp-errs sendfile bootstrap.log dmesg.gz fsck lastlog partimage stunnel4 |
| 05:27 | <grawity> | that'd be /mnt/var/log |
| 05:27 | <grawity> | if it mounted the CentOS partition under /mnt |
| 05:27 | <grawity> | (I don't remember if that's automatic, use `findmnt` to check first; `mount /dev/sda /mnt` if it hasn't done so) |
| 05:27 | <grawity> | it works like a livecd |
| 05:28 | <grawity> | or are you already looking inside a chroot? |
| 05:28 | <sim> | root@ttyS0:/var/log# findmnt TARGET SOURCE FSTYPE OPTIONS / unionfs overlay rw,relatime,lowerdir=/media/compressed_root |-/proc none proc rw,relatime |-/sys none sysfs rw,relatime |-/dev devtmpfs devtmpfs rw,relatime,size=10240k,nr_inodes=125814,mo | `-/dev/pts devpts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600,ptmxmode=000 |-/media/ramdisk tmpfs tmpfs rw,relatime,size=756 |
| 05:29 | <sim> | i am into /var/log |
| 05:29 | <sim> | but there are too many logs |
| 05:29 | <sim> | I just updated the password |
| 05:34 | <sim> | ---- |
| 05:34 | <sim> | this settings |
| 05:34 | <sim> | In order to make sure both root login and password authentication are enabled we'll need to edit the following file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config In /etc/ssh/sshd_config make sure that the following lines are included exactly as shown here: PermitRootLogin yes PasswordAuthentication yes |
| 05:34 | <sim> | . |
| 05:34 | <sim> | needs to be updated from my side |
| 05:35 | <sim> | or server side... (which i cannot access) |
| 05:35 | <grawity> | you can access the server side, that's what finnix is for |
| 05:36 | <grawity> | use `mount /dev/sda /mnt` to access the CentOS disk, then edit /mnt/etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 05:36 | <grawity> | however, that's probably not the problem |
| 05:36 | <grawity> | because Lish/Glish logins *do not use* sshd_config; they act as completely local logins |
| 05:36 | <sim> | oh |
| 05:37 | <sim> | getting to it.. |
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| 07:04 | <Egf> | greetings |
| 07:05 | <Egf> | I have a question |
| 07:05 | <Peng> | Hello |
| 07:06 | <Egf> | hi´ |
| 07:06 | <grawity> | we are still waiting for the question |
| 07:06 | <Egf> | :) |
| 07:06 | <Egf> | do we get charged for dabase reads? |
| 07:07 | <Egf> | do we get charged for database reads? |
| 07:07 | <grawity> | Linode doesn't provide databases as a service |
| 07:08 | <grawity> | any databases are managed by you and hosted on your server |
| 07:08 | <grawity> | therefore you are only charged for the server itself, and not for anything done inside it |
| 07:08 | <Egf> | got it |
| 07:09 | <Egf> | and is it possible to set cost break points or warnings? |
| 07:13 | <grawity> | I don't think so, but practically everything has a fixed monthly price, doesn't it |
| 07:13 | <grawity> | the only exception I can think of is outbound network traffic, if you exceed the cap (but IIRC that already generates a warning email) |
| 07:16 | <Egf> | I want to host a MERN app. It will be expected to have lots of CRUD happening therefore my concerns about costs |
| 07:19 | <csnxs> | !wx egnx |
| 07:19 | <linbot> | csnxs: [metar] OBS at EGNX: 77.0F/25C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 8.06 mph, chill 79.64F (altimeter: ) [EGNX 291050Z 11007KT 070V140 CAVOK 25/17 Q1016] |
| 07:19 | <csnxs> | aaaaa so hot, and its only gonna get hotter |
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| 07:38 | <Peng> | and the sky is so clear |
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| 08:32 | <JamesTK> | !wx yssy |
| 08:32 | <linbot> | JamesTK: [metar] OBS at YSSY: 62.6F/17C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 19.56 mph, chill 60.18F (altimeter: 30.031992711) [YSSY 291200Z 01017KT CAVOK 17/11 Q1017 FM1200 MOD/SEV TURB BLW 5000FT] |
| 08:32 | <JamesTK> | !wx peng |
| 08:32 | <linbot> | JamesTK: [metar] PENG: not data available, valid code? |
| 08:32 | <JamesTK> | Peng: y u no valid |
| 08:32 | <JamesTK> | :P |
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| 09:04 | <Zr40> | !wx eheh |
| 09:04 | <linbot> | Zr40: [metar] OBS at EHEH: 89.6F/32C, visibility 9999 miles, wind 6.90 mph, chill 94.91F (altimeter: 30.031992711) [EHEH 291255Z AUTO VRB06KT 9999 NCD 32/08 Q1017 BLU 12005KT CAVOK] |
| 10:45 | <Aaron_> | Since no-one answered my question about cloud firewalls |
| 10:45 | <Aaron_> | Any idea what will be happening with the managed service with the price increase from cpanel |
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| 10:52 | <alan> | anybody here ever use mercadopago payment processor by chance??? |
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| 11:03 | <alan> | https://bpaste.net/show/ef1fc0349b03 |
| 11:03 | <alan> | Uncaught ReferenceError: addEvent is not defined is the error I'm receiving but I'm unsure why |
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| 11:05 | <vigen> | Hi |
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| 11:32 | <kharlan11> | Aaron_: You can host local firewalls on your own server. |
| 11:32 | <Aaron_> | Yes but that is hardly a solution in 2019 |
| 11:32 | <kharlan11> | or.. are you talking about using a cloud firewall for your local network or a group of linodes? |
| 11:33 | <Aaron_> | yeah network level like |
| 11:33 | <Aaron_> | do, vultr, upcloud |
| 11:33 | <Aaron_> | etc |
| 11:33 | <kharlan11> | I'm still not sure what you mean. So you have 1 linode, and you want to have a firewall for that? |
| 11:33 | <Aaron_> | i want a network level firewall... |
| 11:34 | <Aaron_> | so tcp/udp/icmp can be dropped before ever reaching |
| 11:34 | <kharlan11> | I understand what a network level firewall is.. but do you want to use it for your linodes? |
| 11:34 | <Aaron_> | well i've switched to linode and noticed it's not available... |
| 11:34 | <Aaron_> | I assumed poorly obviously this was pretty standard |
| 11:35 | <kharlan11> | what. |
| 11:35 | <Aaron_> | what? |
| 11:35 | <kharlan11> | Is running a local firewall that difficult? |
| 11:35 | <Aaron_> | ... |
| 11:36 | <kharlan11> | You're talking about some in built UI to manage firewall rules right? |
| 11:37 | <Aaron_> | Which is at network level |
| 11:37 | <Aaron_> | so traffic is dropped before reaching your vm |
| 11:38 | <Aaron_> | there are so many benefits I'm surprised this conversation is happening |
| 11:39 | <Aaron_> | reduced load, scaling, yes a fancy ui, security just to name some benefits... |
| 11:40 | <kharlan11> | You can make one yourself using a nanode. |
| 11:40 | <kharlan11> | and just route traffic as you see fit using proxies/reverse proxies. |
| 11:40 | <Aaron_> | uhuh |
| 11:42 | <gparent> | Since the only benefit that actually applies here is the fancy UI.. |
| 11:43 | <Aaron_> | How so |
| 11:43 | <gparent> | The rest are generic characteristics of a firewall |
| 11:43 | <gparent> | Or thing sit can help with |
| 11:44 | <gparent> | Fancy UI is the one specific thing that a Linode service could provide |
| 11:44 | <gparent> | The rest can be accomplished using standard iptables/tc. |
| 11:44 | <Aaron_> | it's 2019 guys come on why are you resisting simplicity |
| 11:45 | <gparent> | I don't think anyone is |
| 11:45 | <kharlan11> | it's pretty simple to write firewall rules. |
| 11:45 | <gparent> | netfilter is rather simple |
| 11:45 | <Aaron_> | nobody said otherwise |
| 11:45 | <Aaron_> | was reading several issues with netfilter on linode as well |
| 11:45 | <gparent> | So adding a complex wrapper on top isn't necessarily something I want Linode to prioritize |
| 11:45 | <gparent> | Linode is just regular Linux, maybe you meant their kernel? |
| 11:45 | <millisa> | now, when they eventually get a true customer private network(s) you can setup per node... |
| 11:46 | <gparent> | ^ this would be something that's doable in netfilter but that I apprerciate my provider's help in masking the complexity |
| 11:46 | <gparent> | much more so than a firewall |
| 11:47 | <Aaron_> | gotta laugh at this topic. |
| 11:48 | <Aaron_> | must be unemployed or in boring jobs eh |
| 11:48 | <Aaron_> | got so much free time. |
| 11:48 | <gparent> | lmao |
| 11:48 | <kharlan11> | wut |
| 11:50 | <gparent> | shouldn't you be busy writing ansible scripts to deploy the security groups on your thousands of AWS servers rather than asking when Linode will make something to do it for you? |
| 11:50 | <Aaron_> | I've got 8 servers I was migrating to linode... |
| 11:50 | <Aaron_> | from DO and vultr... |
| 11:50 | <Aaron_> | I'm not a technut hence why i enjoyed the simple cloud firewalls |
| 11:51 | <gparent> | We're not against your request, and I think it'd be a good addition to Linode. |
| 11:51 | <Aaron_> | But you discredit it as a lazy approach to iptables |
| 11:52 | <gparent> | Well yeah. |
| 11:52 | <gparent> | You're talking about massive amounts of free time and all that, I expected more than an 8 server count. |
| 11:52 | <Aaron_> | when it's clearly got alot more benefits then IP tables... |
| 11:52 | <gparent> | A lot of the stuff you're scripting can probably be trivially done with netfilter templates and ansible |
| 11:52 | <gparent> | It really depends what you're doing it for. |
| 11:53 | <gparent> | If you're using it as a GUI to iptables, I maintain that point |
| 11:53 | <gparent> | If you're using the intelligence, like firewall rules based on groups talking to groups, and reusing those as modular components, then that's the spirit. |
| 11:53 | <gparent> | (which you can still rwrite in iptables, but you will maybe spend more time) |
| 11:54 | <gparent> | My stuff is spread on Linode, EC2, and DigitalOcean, I use netfilter because it's easier for me that way, but I understand why it could be simpler for someone clustering hundreds of machines to use a network service that automatically manages it. |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | Grawity was busy this morning! |
| 12:04 | <LouWestin> | Setting up IP tables isn’t that bad, at least for simple port blocking stuff. |
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| 12:08 | <Egf> | Hello again |
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| 12:57 | <linbot> | New news from community: Why does Linode seem to be a new Spam Generator? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18383> |
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| 13:04 | <user1> | hi. any linode admin here? |
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| 13:09 | <alan> | I'm struggling outputting one month from today's date and +1 year or 12 months |
| 13:09 | <alan> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24081541/how-to-get-the-current-date-in-php-and-add-1-month-to-the-current-date/24081571 |
| 13:09 | <alan> | this accepted answer is completely wrong and doesn't work for one |
| 13:10 | <alan> | and every other strtotime post I've seen doesn't work and I'm going nuts over something simple |
| 13:10 | <grawity> | which one? the page doesn't have an accepted answer |
| 13:10 | <alan> | maybe it's what I'm googling idk |
| 13:10 | <alan> | oh I guess you're correct, I thought I seen a green check next to the top answer with 7 votes |
| 13:11 | <grawity> | I usually do it manually, although in my case adding an exact amount of days is good enough, i.e. I don't care about how long months are or about leap years |
| 13:11 | <grawity> | where by "manually" I mean time() + (86400 * $num_days) |
| 13:12 | <grawity> | that said |
| 13:12 | <grawity> | strtotime("+1 month"); |
| 13:12 | <grawity> | seems to work completely fine here |
| 13:13 | <alan> | $transaction_date = date("Y-m-d H:i:s"); i grab todays date like this |
| 13:14 | <grawity> | don't do that |
| 13:14 | <grawity> | start with a timestamp, adjust that timestamp, and *at the end* convert it to a printable date/time |
| 13:14 | <alan> | https://www.w3schools.com/php/php_date.asp seems to work |
| 13:15 | <grawity> | so for example |
| 13:15 | <grawity> | 1) $transaction_ts = time(); /* today's date */ |
| 13:15 | <grawity> | 2) $next_year_ts = strtotime("+1 year", $transaction_ts); |
| 13:15 | <grawity> | not sure if that handles leap years |
| 13:16 | <grawity> | 3) $next_year_date = date("Y-m-d H:i:s", $next_year_ts); |
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| 13:19 | <alan> | it doesn't do leap years? |
| 13:20 | <grawity> | looks like it does, actually |
| 13:20 | <grawity> | $ php -r 'echo date("Y-m-d", strtotime("+10 years", time()));' |
| 13:20 | <grawity> | 2029-06-29 |
| 13:25 | <alan> | oka ysweet so I'll use the w3schools one |
| 13:25 | <alan> | sorry to have bothered you |
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| 13:33 | <Sammiejo> | i am not able to register an account with linode. as I haven't received the confirmation email. |
| 13:34 | <Sammiejo> | does the confirmation email take long to be sent? |
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