| --- | Log | opened Wed Jul 10 00:00:01 2019 |
| 00:02 | <linbot> | New news from community: How long until account approved? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18435> |
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| 01:12 | <linbot> | New news from community: Open ports with iptables <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18436> |
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| 04:25 | <jebouri81> | hello |
| 04:26 | <jebouri81> | anyone here can answer my questions, please ? |
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| 04:27 | <jebouri81> | Hello |
| 04:29 | <jebouri81> | I have a question ( is plan Nanode 1GB ) Linux based VPS ? with free CPanel ? |
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| 04:36 | <nate> | jebouri81: No, cPanel costs more than most of the basic plans so that would be pretty cost ineffective (especially with cPanel's new prices) |
| 04:36 | <nate> | There are however alternative control panels that are opensource/free (such as webmin+virtualmin) |
| 04:37 | <jebouri81> | ok how much here will cost in linode |
| 04:38 | <nate> | For a nanode plan? Those are all listed on the website; https://www.linode.com/pricing |
| 04:39 | <jebouri81> | but nothing mentioned about cpanel prices ? |
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| 04:40 | <nate> | The only linode services that provide cPanel are managed linodes; https://www.linode.com/managed |
| 04:41 | <nate> | That's $100 on top of the cost of the linode (and you get a bit more than just cPanel for that, as that page will cover) |
| 04:41 | <jebouri81> | ok thanks for details |
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| 06:08 | <didar> | hello |
| 06:08 | <didar> | is anyone awake around here? |
| 06:09 | <didar> | I am looking for information on Mumbai DC of Linode |
| 06:09 | <didar> | Is it up and in production? |
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| 06:14 | <didar> | never mind |
| 06:14 | <didar> | got the info |
| 06:15 | <didar> | thanks |
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| 07:56 | <Devendra> | Hi |
| 07:57 | <Devendra> | Could anyone tell me the difference between Standard Plans and Dedicated CPU Plans. I am looking to host my eCommerce site with global B2B customer base? |
| 07:57 | <Devendra> | Could anyone tell me the difference between Standard Plans and Dedicated CPU Plans. I am looking to host my eCommerce site with global B2B customer base? |
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| 08:05 | <LouWestin> | Devendra: dedicated cpu plans means you don’t share the cpu with anyone else. |
| 08:07 | <LouWestin> | Generally speaking if you’re doing really CPU intense stuff like a game server. Then you you might want a dedicated plan. |
| 08:14 | <Devendra> | Thanks LouWestin. My site is medium sized eCommerce site with Business to Business customer base globally. |
| 08:15 | <Devendra> | Which plan would you recommend then? |
| 08:17 | <LouWestin> | I’d start with the regular plans. |
| 08:18 | <LouWestin> | Most websites aren’t running 100% CPU all the time. If they are then something is probably wrong somewhere. |
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| 10:05 | <puspesh> | Hi |
| 10:05 | <puspesh> | I need to resize the linode |
| 10:07 | <puspesh> | unable to do getting error "Linode has allocated more disk than the new service plan allows. Delete or resize disk smaller. |
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| 10:44 | <primitiv> | YES I'm not banned anymore |
| 10:44 | <primitiv> | I tried registering and got banned by opening two windows at once and trying to login :(\ |
| 10:52 | <@jalter> | primitiv: welcome back! |
| 10:59 | <primitiv> | thank you sir |
| 11:00 | <primitiv> | this is by far the best irc chat :P |
| 11:06 | <primitiv> | how do I register successfully this time |
| 11:06 | <primitiv> | i forget the command :P |
| 11:08 | <dwfreed> | /msg NickServ help register |
| 11:12 | <primitiv> | sweet thank you! |
| 11:13 | <primitiv> | any idea why nginx isn't restricting access to certain files? |
| 11:13 | <primitiv> | https://sandbox.primitiv.media/app/config/db.config.php |
| 11:13 | <primitiv> | for example |
| 11:13 | <primitiv> | permissions are 664 |
| 11:15 | <LouWestin> | check the user:group |
| 11:15 | <primitiv> | sandbox.primitiv:nginx |
| 11:15 | <primitiv> | nginx is the culprit ain't it |
| 11:19 | <LouWestin> | not sure. Could be the code allowing things to pass through |
| 11:19 | <LouWestin> | I'm only making guesses though |
| 11:20 | <primitiv> | code shouldn't, on my apache server it was fine |
| 11:21 | <dwfreed> | apache cares about .htaccess, nginx does not |
| 11:22 | <dwfreed> | I bet there's an .htaccess file in the config folder |
| 11:22 | <primitiv> | changing nginx to another group didn't fix antthing |
| 11:23 | <dwfreed> | because the file is still readable by anybody |
| 11:23 | <primitiv> | https://bpaste.net/show/6lQL |
| 11:24 | <primitiv> | i dont see anything |
| 11:24 | <dwfreed> | apache automatically reads .htaccess files unless explicitly disabled, and nobody disables it |
| 11:24 | <dwfreed> | nginx has no such functionality, for performance reasons |
| 11:28 | <LouWestin> | speaking nginx, i'm trying to download the signing key https://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key but it looks like it's stuck trying to thier ip6 address |
| 11:30 | <LouWestin> | https://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key |
| 11:30 | <LouWestin> | Resolving nginx.org (nginx.org)... 2001:1af8:4060:a004:21::e3, 62.210.92.35, 95.211.80.227 |
| 11:30 | <dwfreed> | wget -4 |
| 11:30 | <LouWestin> | ok, I'll try that |
| 11:31 | <LouWestin> | I did an iptables flush thinking that it might the firwall |
| 11:33 | <LouWestin> | thanks dwfreed that worked |
| 11:34 | <primitiv> | so nginx doesnt read .htaccess by default? |
| 11:34 | <primitiv> | wheras apache does |
| 11:37 | <dwfreed> | nginx doesn't read .htaccess at all, ever |
| 11:37 | <dwfreed> | there's no setting to turn that on, for multiple reasons |
| 11:37 | <gparent> | and it's great! |
| 11:38 | <dwfreed> | the first is that .htaccess contains Apache configuration, and nginx doesn't understand Apache configuration |
| 11:39 | <dwfreed> | the second is that seaerching for an htaccess file on *every* request is actually kind of slow (apache searches all the way up to the root directory for one), which is not a good idea when you're trying to be the fastest web server in the west |
| 11:42 | <gparent> | nginx: the best webserver if you're in fremont |
| 11:49 | <LouWestin> | configuring nginx seems easier to understand when/where I've a mistake |
| 11:50 | <LouWestin> | I made a change, reloaded it, and it was like, nope can't have that in there on line xyz |
| 11:52 | <LouWestin> | apache throws an error and tells you to check these two logs |
| 11:56 | <@blaboon> | `apachectl configtest` will generally give you detailed info (line number, etc) about any config errors |
| 11:57 | <dwfreed> | but that doesn't handle htaccess errors :P |
| 11:58 | <LouWestin> | seems a little easier at glance to see what's wrong. but that's imho |
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| 12:01 | <LouWestin> | ok here's what confusing in the nginx guide: root /var/www/example.com; then create that directory |
| 12:02 | <@blaboon> | i think if you invoke the httpd binary directly (or apache2, depending on distro) you can do something like `httpd -t -f /path/to/.htaccess` to check that file specifically |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | there's no example conf, so I can't add that first line to the server block |
| 12:02 | <@blaboon> | i usually just disable htaccess files though |
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| 12:03 | <primitiv> | okay so my wordpress .ht access wouldn't be working either then |
| 12:04 | <dwfreed> | nope |
| 12:04 | <primitiv> | would it be best to host wp sites on apache instead of nginx ? |
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| 12:08 | <dwfreed> | no, just configure nginx correctly to do what the htaccess would do |
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| 12:14 | <primitiv> | https://bpaste.net/show/ghqg |
| 12:15 | <primitiv> | the second function makes the first one not work anymore |
| 12:16 | <primitiv> | nvm i combined them into one window.onclick and it works |
| 12:21 | <LouWestin> | This guide is kind of confusing where i'm getting to set your site's root directory https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/nginx/nginx-installation-and-basic-setup/ |
| 12:24 | <LouWestin> | unless they mean "/etc/nginx/conf.d/example.com.conf is actaully default.conf |
| 12:32 | <LouWestin> | ok, answered my own question |
| 12:34 | <LouWestin> | actually i'm not getting these guides |
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| 12:57 | <shieldblaze> | Does Linode suspend account for incoming DDoS Attacks? |
| 12:58 | <LouWestin> | I think'll block your server untill the attack stops |
| 13:00 | <kharlan11> | you'll probably need to submit a support ticket to open up the traffic again |
| 13:03 | <shieldblaze> | Do my account and other servers will be safe right? |
| 13:04 | <LouWestin> | if you want to be protected from ddos attacks then you can add cloudflare to it |
| 13:05 | <shieldblaze> | We run UDP Applications and CloudFlare can't help |
| 13:05 | <LouWestin> | ok |
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| 13:06 | <LouWestin> | if you're running UDP I'm not sure then if ddos attacks would be possible. Although I'm not an expert on that stuff |
| 13:06 | <shieldblaze> | Does Linode have Inbuilt Firewall like AWS EC2 Security Groups? |
| 13:06 | <kharlan11> | udp is prone to spoofed packets |
| 13:07 | <kharlan11> | and no inbuilt firewall shieldblaze |
| 13:07 | <LouWestin> | I don't think think so, just iptables, etc |
| 13:07 | <shieldblaze> | we have our own inbuilt mechanism to detect and drop DDoS attack but we need to make sure our server provider don't have problem with large attacks |
| 13:08 | <kharlan11> | you should probably ask linode what that limit is. |
| 13:09 | <kharlan11> | I've heard it's high though. Something like 40 GB /s before they block you. |
| 13:09 | <kharlan11> | Don't quote me on that. |
| 13:10 | <shieldblaze> | Yeah. We have no problem with Null Route but Unblocking should be automatic like 1 hour or something |
| 13:10 | <shieldblaze> | We tested DDoS. Server had maximum of 225K PPS |
| 13:10 | <kharlan11> | how large were those packets? |
| 13:13 | <shieldblaze> | 30 |
| 13:13 | <shieldblaze> | We wanted to test maximum PPS so sent small packets |
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| 13:57 | <jones> | does linode offer a cdn? |
| 13:58 | <LouWestin> | not directly, but I believe they're partner with a cdn |
| 14:04 | <primitiv> | apache started giving me 403 errors on a specific file |
| 14:04 | <primitiv> | even with 777 and proper ownership |
| 14:05 | <primitiv> | [access_compat:error] AH01797: client denied by server configuration: /var/www/html/app/vendor/braintree/gateway.php |
| 14:08 | <jones> | are you using a framework? |
| 14:11 | <primitiv> | yes |
| 14:13 | <jones> | check your .htaccess |
| 14:14 | <jones> | make sure you don't have Deny from all |
| 14:15 | <primitiv> | it doesnti checked |
| 14:16 | <jones> | also check apache settings in sites-available |
| 14:19 | <primitiv> | default or specific .conf\ |
| 14:20 | <jones> | likely it will be default unless you changed it you can paste bin it here |
| 14:21 | <jones> | https://pastebin.com/ |
| 14:29 | <primitiv> | my client gave up lol |
| 14:29 | <primitiv> | smh |
| 14:29 | <primitiv> | well decided to go to bed |
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| 14:38 | <nate> | primitiv: Eve... nevermind |
| 14:38 | <nate> | lol |
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| 15:31 | <Eugene> | !lick zifnab |
| 15:31 | <linbot> | Eugene: Point given to zifnab. (35) |
| 15:33 | <Eugene> | <3 bbigger |
| 15:33 | <@bbigger> | o7 |
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| 16:10 | <vaalbara> | what are some good IRC channels these days? (On linux, etc.) |
| 16:11 | <millisa> | when did IRC start getting used for the forces of good!? |
| 16:26 | <zifnab> | !lick Eugene |
| 16:26 | <linbot> | zifnab: Point given to eugene. (88) |
| 16:34 | <@blaboon> | |
| 16:35 | <@blaboon> | :homer-disappear: |
| 16:46 | <dwfreed> | vaalbara: irssi |
| 16:46 | <dwfreed> | oh, channels |
| 16:46 | <dwfreed> | read clients |
| 16:50 | <kharlan11> | vaalbara: small ones |
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| 16:58 | <LouWestin> | how do you swap IP addresses with two linodes in the same data center? |
| 16:59 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: click IP swap in the manager |
| 16:59 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/manager/remote-access/#transferring-ip-addresses |
| 17:00 | <millisa> | old manager: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/manager/remote-access-classic-manager/#swapping-ip-addresses |
| 17:00 | <LouWestin> | Thanks I was trying to transfer...oops |
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| 17:17 | <LouWestin> | Ok, looks like it takes some time for the swaped ip addresses to resolve |
| 17:21 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: ping the gateways |
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| 17:28 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed pinging gateway 45.56.65.1 times out |
| 17:28 | <millisa> | arping? |
| 17:29 | <LouWestin> | and same with 45.56.78.1 |
| 17:29 | <LouWestin> | 78.1 is for the old linode |
| 17:30 | <rsdehart> | how about LARPing |
| 17:30 | <rsdehart> | stab the server with a prop sword |
| 17:30 | <LouWestin> | lol |
| 17:32 | <millisa> | if those dont work, reboot both nodes |
| 17:33 | <millisa> | the ping/arping commands they suggest are there in step8 on the newer guide |
| 17:33 | <millisa> | step10 on the old guide |
| 17:35 | <LouWestin> | I'll try that |
| 17:41 | <LouWestin> | it comes back with https://pastebin.com/zhEKLzuD |
| 17:41 | <millisa> | what's the linode ips? |
| 17:42 | <LouWestin> | Address to be swapped to is 45.56.78.157 |
| 17:43 | <millisa> | i can ping that |
| 17:43 | <LouWestin> | and 45.56.65.237 |
| 17:44 | <millisa> | can ping that too |
| 17:44 | <millisa> | both have something about mechghost on the web server |
| 17:44 | <LouWestin> | right right |
| 17:45 | <LouWestin> | for some reason, maybe dns? it's still pulling up the old server |
| 17:46 | <LouWestin> | I haven't setup ssl on the new server, so I know it's pulling up the old server |
| 17:52 | <LouWestin> | Ok, the servers have swapped ip's so that's comfirmed |
| 17:54 | <LouWestin> | it's just the browser is still pulling from the old server |
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| 18:11 | <LouWestin> | for stake of arguement, I swapped the addresses back and updated the dns |
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| 19:06 | <linbot> | New news from community: Upgrading to Debian 10 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18437> |
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| 19:31 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: if you've swapped IPs and not changed DNS, then it wouldn't be DNS |
| 19:32 | <dwfreed> | unless you have IPv6 locally and your DNS name has AAAA record of the Linode's SLAAC address |
| 19:40 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: I like that you basically copied my instructions |
| 19:40 | <dwfreed> | re buster upgrade |
| 19:43 | <LouWestin> | I'll credit you right now |
| 19:43 | <dwfreed> | linbot points are sufficient |
| 19:46 | <dwfreed> | linbot: shut up |
| 19:46 | <linbot> | No, you shut up! |
| 19:46 | <LouWestin> | Ok, well I edited my post to credit you |
| 19:46 | <dwfreed> | heh |
| 19:47 | <LouWestin> | and about the ip swap, eh... it did update the ip address on the DNS A/AAA record, but I don't know |
| 19:47 | <LouWestin> | I ended up switching it back to the way it was before and then updated DNS with the new IP's. |
| 19:47 | <dwfreed> | IP swap wouldn't touch DNS |
| 19:48 | <dwfreed> | not on its own anyway |
| 19:48 | <dwfreed> | and if you're doing an IP swap, you don't have to touch DNS for A records anyway |
| 19:48 | <dwfreed> | unless you have a service that needs to stay on the system the IP was originally pointing to |
| 19:49 | <LouWestin> | wait durr... right it would be the same IP address under the DNS records |
| 19:50 | <LouWestin> | which wouldn't change the DNS records.. slaps forehead |
| 19:50 | <LouWestin> | ok, but for some reason it wasn't pulling from the new system |
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| 19:50 | <LouWestin> | rebooted them both, etc. |
| 19:51 | <LouWestin> | Cleared cache from firefox, checked on chrome |
| 19:52 | <LouWestin> | I know the site wasn't coming on the new system since I hadn't secured yet |
| 19:54 | <LouWestin> | so I couldn't figure out if would eventually resolve or not, so I swapped them back and then updated the DNS records with the new IP. which is fine since I ran certbot a little while ago. It'll seemlessly transfer over and I can shutdown the old system |
| 19:55 | <dwfreed> | again what I said earlier, if you have IPv6 locally (ask google what your IP address is), and the AAAA record was to the SLAAC address of the original Linode, you would need to change that |
| 19:55 | <LouWestin> | maybe that was it |
| 19:55 | <dwfreed> | but there's no way the IPv4 address was going to the old Linode, because the host's firewall rules would prevent it |
| 19:56 | <LouWestin> | would that be the forwarding rule? |
| 19:57 | <dwfreed> | it's a bridge filter rule (ebtables for fun and profit) |
| 19:57 | <LouWestin> | also when you say IPv6 locally do you mean, my physical computer or Linode? |
| 19:57 | <dwfreed> | the device whose keyboard you're using |
| 19:57 | <LouWestin> | yeah that's ipv6 I'm sure |
| 19:57 | <LouWestin> | let me check |
| 19:57 | <dwfreed> | literally google "what is my IP address" |
| 19:58 | <LouWestin> | Both come up |
| 19:59 | <dwfreed> | your browser or OS probably does happy eyeballs |
| 19:59 | <LouWestin> | goodgle brings up the IPv6 address. Duck Duck brings up other links that pull up the IPv4 |
| 19:59 | <dwfreed> | most 'what is my ip' sites are not v6 enabled |
| 20:00 | <dwfreed> | icanhazip.com is one that is |
| 20:00 | <dwfreed> | but if google gives you an IPv6 address at the top before the search results, then you definitely have IPv6 |
| 20:00 | <LouWestin> | https://www.whatsmyip.org/ brings up the v4 |
| 20:01 | <dwfreed> | linbot: dns6 www.whatsmyip.org |
| 20:01 | <linbot> | dwfreed: 204.11.35.98 [AD=0] |
| 20:01 | <LouWestin> | .com brings up both, plus the local address of 10.0.0.125 |
| 20:01 | <dwfreed> | linbot: dns6 www.whatsmyip.com |
| 20:01 | <linbot> | dwfreed: 2606:4700:30::681f:5334, 2606:4700:30::681f:5234, 104.31.82.52, 104.31.83.52 [AD=0] |
| 20:01 | <Toba> | what does the AD part mean |
| 20:01 | <dwfreed> | DNSSEC-validated |
| 20:02 | <dwfreed> | linbot: dns6 powerdns.org |
| 20:02 | <linbot> | dwfreed: 2a02:a440:b085:2::f, 52.48.64.3 [AD=1] |
| 20:02 | <LouWestin> | 2601:244:4800:447:213d:53e4:2a57:46b3 is my IPv6 |
| 20:02 | <LouWestin> | Your IPv4 is: 24.14.25.19 |
| 20:02 | <LouWestin> | and Your Local IP is: 10.0.1.125 |
| 20:02 | * | dwfreed spins up the LOIC |
| 20:03 | <LouWestin> | I set the router to a 10 address |
| 20:10 | <LouWestin> | dwfreed I'm looking back at the DNS records for the SLACC address on cloud manager, but I'm not seeing it |
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| 20:11 | <LouWestin> | No big deal, just mentioning it |
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| 20:22 | <Peng> | Wow, if Cloudflare has an outage, how many IPv6-enabled "what is my IP" sites will survive? |
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| 21:45 | <nate> | just use google? Google tells you :P |
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