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| 04:47 | <anil> | hello |
| 04:47 | <linbot> | hi |
| 04:47 | <anil> | i installed open edx on linode server (ubuntu 16.04) |
| 04:47 | <anil> | it installed sucessfully |
| 04:47 | <anil> | but when i type IP in URL than its not running |
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| 04:53 | <anil> | hello can you help me |
| 05:08 | <linbot> | New news from community: Repairing IPv6 connectivity after installing Pihole on Debian 9 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18438> |
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| 07:12 | <raj> | is there a charge for creating a clone of my linode? |
| 07:13 | <raj> | I was going to update ubuntu to 18.04 from 16.04 and wanted to have a backup |
| 07:13 | <raj> | in case the update fails |
| 07:13 | <raj> | also, any issue with doing this update over ssh? |
| 07:14 | <Eugene> | You would be charged for the usage of the cloned Linode for as long as it exists, yup. |
| 07:15 | <Eugene> | A "recommended" path is actually to Clone your Linode, upgrade the Clone, do an IP Swap, and finally clean-up (delete) the original machine once you're confident Backups and all your services are running |
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| 07:16 | <mwonng> | part #linode |
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| 07:16 | <raj> | thanks Eugene |
| 07:17 | <raj> | are IP swaps done within the linode manager? |
| 07:17 | <Eugene> | Yup, Remote Access tab. |
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| 07:32 | <raj_> | Eugene: the clone is like paying for a whole new linode account? |
| 07:32 | <raj_> | can I not just save a duplicate image of my drive within the alotted 96GB I have? |
| 07:38 | <raj_> | err, 80GB |
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| 07:51 | <php> | is there any way to access files on linode |
| 07:51 | <php> | like is there any filemanager |
| 07:51 | <php> | like we have in cpanel |
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| 07:57 | <rsdehart> | yeah, it's called ls (I know they left) |
| 07:59 | <Zr40> | itym cat |
| 08:01 | <rsdehart> | ok |
| 08:12 | <Eugene> | raj_ - no, it'd be a separate line-item on your bill. |
| 08:19 | <Zr40> | any ops awake? |
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| 08:24 | <Eugene> | !ticket |
| 08:24 | <linbot> | Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here. |
| 08:26 | <@pwoods> | Zr40: o/ |
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| 08:28 | <Zr40> | pwoods: I just emailed support. According to manager.linode.com our IP has been banned |
| 08:54 | <@pwoods> | Zr40: I found and updated your ticket |
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| 09:14 | <joao_pedro_pach> | any one else having problems with login on linode.com? |
| 09:14 | <Zr40> | what kind of problems are you having? |
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| 09:16 | <joao_pedro_pach> | the company owner registered an account and passed the data to me, now both him and i cant login |
| 09:16 | <joao_pedro_pach> | invalid credentials |
| 09:16 | <joao_pedro_pach> | very odd |
| 09:17 | <joao_pedro_pach> | his reset pass email is not delivered either |
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| 09:18 | <Sanjay> | hi |
| 09:18 | <Sanjay> | by mistaken i have delete the website folder |
| 09:18 | <Sanjay> | and the backup plane not enable |
| 09:18 | <@jcardillo> | joao_pedro_pach: send an email to support@linode.com including the username and last six digits of the credit card used when registering and we'll be happy to take a look. |
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| 09:19 | <@bbigger> | joao_pedro_pach you can also give us a call at 855-454-6633 or Intl.: +1-609-380-7100 |
| 09:19 | <@jcardillo> | ^^ |
| 09:19 | <joao_pedro_pach> | thanks jcardillo will do! |
| 09:26 | <kharlan11> | !point Eugene |
| 09:26 | <linbot> | kharlan11: Point given to eugene. (89) |
| 09:30 | <Darxus> | spf=neutral (google.com: 64.71.152.40 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of theuniverse-test-bounces@lists.camptheuniverse.org) |
| 09:31 | <Darxus> | "host -t txt camptheuniverse.org" returns "v=spf1 mx a ptr ip4:64.71.152.40/32 a:panic.chaosreigns.com aaaa:panic.chaosreigns.com include:_spf.google.com ~all" The value of the a record for panic.chaosreigns.com is 64.71.152.40, which matches that IP. How is that not an spf match? |
| 09:31 | <Eugene> | lists is a different domain |
| 09:32 | <Eugene> | You need SPF/DKIM/DMARC for each sub/domain that you want to send mail from; not just the top of your domain |
| 09:32 | <Darxus> | Eugene: When I asked yesterday whether I should have the record as lists.camptheuniverse.org or camptheuniverse.org, somebody said the top level is inhereted. But... I'll try that, thanks. |
| 09:33 | <Eugene> | Well, they were wrong |
| 09:33 | <Darxus> | Okay, thanks. |
| 09:35 | <Darxus> | Also, it looks like, since the mx record for chaosreigns.com resolves to its A and AAAA records, I could use "mx:chaosreigns.com" instead of "a:panic.chaosreigns.com aaaa:panic.chaosreigns.com"? |
| 09:36 | <@pwoods> | Sanjay: I'm sorry to hear. Without any backups, that folder most likely cannot be restored. |
| 09:44 | <Eugene> | A: is a better choice IMO. |
| 09:44 | <Eugene> | !dns txt kashpureff.org |
| 09:44 | <linbot> | Eugene: (dns <host|ip>) -- Returns the ip of <host> or the reverse DNS hostname of <ip>. |
| 09:44 | <Eugene> | !help dig |
| 09:45 | <linbot> | Eugene: (dig <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "dns6 $*". |
| 09:45 | <Eugene> | !dig kashpureff.org txt |
| 09:45 | <linbot> | Eugene: v=spf1 a:jeeves.kashpureff.org include:_spf.google.com ~all [AD=0] |
| 09:45 | <Eugene> | "jeeves" being my bastion host / shell box / etc |
| 10:01 | <linbot> | New news from blog: Our Favorite Content Channels for Developers <https://blog.linode.com/2019/07/11/our-favorite-content-channels-for-developers/> |
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| 10:39 | <cruxeternus> | Alright, which one of you killed reddit |
| 10:40 | <synfinatic> | not it |
| 10:41 | <LouWestin> | Cloudflare? |
| 10:41 | <synfinatic> | i mean, i couldn't be the one... all my comcast services (internet, phone and TV) are dead now because I replaced the HDD in my Tivo |
| 10:41 | <LouWestin> | Verizon? |
| 10:41 | <cruxeternus> | Possibly... error pages says CDN can't reach origin |
| 10:41 | <cruxeternus> | But sometimes I'm not even getting a response from the CDN |
| 10:42 | <cruxeternus> | Who's another big Cloudflare client? |
| 10:42 | <LouWestin> | Someone using a backhoe didn’t call Julie |
| 10:42 | <cruxeternus> | lol |
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| 10:44 | <LouWestin> | Happened by us. They dug up the cable by the central police dispatch... luckily they had some redundancy |
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| 10:49 | <cruxeternus> | https://gizmodo.com/reddit-is-down-as-the-summer-of-outages-continues-1836274829 |
| 10:49 | <LouWestin> | Is there a minimum age to signup for Linode? I looked in the legal docs and only saw that in the privacy policy Linode doesn’t market to anyone under 13. |
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| 10:53 | <cruxeternus> | Also, looks like reddit uses Fastly, not Cloudflare |
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| 10:53 | <Deepu> | hello |
| 10:53 | <Deepu> | anybody here |
| 10:53 | <Deepu> | ? |
| 10:54 | <cruxeternus> | !ask |
| 10:54 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 10:55 | <Deepu> | i transfer my website to linode..i transfer all my files using updraftplus on linode IP domain and didn't change my domain name in settings and after backup restore is completed the domain stops working or shows too many redirects |
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| 10:56 | <cruxeternus> | what is the website? |
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| 10:58 | <Deepu> | awesomebyte.com |
| 10:58 | <Deepu> | it is working now as i have change nameserver to previous host |
| 10:58 | <cruxeternus> | Oh. |
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| 10:59 | <cruxeternus> | Well, I'm not familiar with WordPress, so I'm not sure I can give you any general tips. |
| 10:59 | <synfinatic> | sounds like you should look on the webserver logs and check your nginx/apache/wordpress config |
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| 10:59 | <linbot> | New news from community: Why is my restored backup not the same as the original <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18439> |
| 11:00 | <cruxeternus> | But yes, you'll need to track down the specific errors from logs or browser tools. |
| 11:01 | <synfinatic> | knowing if it's a redirect from the webserver or application (wordpress?) would be a good start |
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| 11:01 | <synfinatic> | Chrome Developer Tools can help with that as well |
| 11:01 | <cruxeternus> | Perhaps there's something hard-coded to the old IP or a domain you haven't changed over. |
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| 11:02 | <cruxeternus> | Or, something that didn't get copied over. |
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| 11:44 | <joao_pedro_pach> | jcardillo: problem solved! tks a lot! |
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| 11:49 | <@pwoods> | !point jcardillo |
| 11:49 | <linbot> | pwoods: Point given to jcardillo. (2) |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | Speaking of points... |
| 12:02 | <LouWestin> | !poont dwfreed |
| 12:03 | <LouWestin> | Gah |
| 12:03 | <LouWestin> | !point dwfreed |
| 12:03 | <linbot> | LouWestin: Point given to dwfreed. (83) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 17) |
| 12:04 | <csnxs> | !point mcintosh |
| 12:04 | <linbot> | csnxs: Point given to mcintosh. (19) (Biggest fan: csnxs, total: 8) |
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| 12:32 | <Eugene> | !pants dwfreed |
| 12:32 | <linbot> | Eugene: dwfreed's score: 83 |
| 12:32 | <Eugene> | Ha |
| 12:46 | <cruxeternus> | !paint Eugene |
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| 13:25 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: technically speaking, you have to be 18 in most jurisdictions in order to agree to Linode's Terms of Service |
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| 13:56 | <LouWestin> | Dwfreed: Ok, thought so. I read again and it mentioned what you said. |
| 13:58 | <LouWestin> | Minus the actual age. The laws are strange since Facebook will allow you to join if you’re 13 or >. Technically you’re entering into a legal agreement too. |
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| 14:00 | <estpress> | Hello, is there any support I could contact with? |
| 14:03 | <LouWestin> | Ask |
| 14:03 | <LouWestin> | What’s your question estpress? |
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| 14:10 | <LouWestin> | Dwfreed: Reason I ask is, the XYL things our one daughter should setup a FB page for her art and photography. I’d say at least have a portfolio site just so you have something you’re more in control of. |
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| 14:32 | <@TaraNT> | LouWestin your daughter can use Terraform to provision a Linode environment for a personal portfolio that ties to a Facebook Page to share her work so she can have the best of both worlds with a bit more control and independence. |
| 14:34 | <LouWestin> | TaraNT: Ok I’ll look into that too. Thanks! |
| 14:36 | <nyancat> | RIP my uptime |
| 14:37 | <LouWestin> | You’ve been on for a week so far |
| 14:38 | <nyancat> | LouWestin: One of my linodes apparently got rebooted and migrated today to a differnet node |
| 14:38 | <nyancat> | It's the one I run all my dronebl checks from so it reset all my screens :( |
| 14:42 | <LouWestin> | Yikes... emergency repair? |
| 14:43 | <nyancat> | guess so |
| 14:43 | <nyancat> | literally the only info was "We have detected an issue affecting the physical host on which your Linode resides." |
| 14:44 | <nyancat> | looks like i'm still rocking the same xeon gold so maybe the migration hasnt taken place yet |
| 14:44 | <nyancat> | they did say it was a "live" migration |
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| 14:58 | <LouWestin> | Maybe they decided to take the whole thing down. I’m now on three AMD’s in Texas. |
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| 15:17 | <nyancat> | It is slightly concerning as all the proxies I’ve tested from my removal queue so far have tested negative |
| 15:17 | <nyancat> | Usually I’ve got one or two positive results by now :/ |
| 15:18 | <nyancat> | This was meant for another channel, apologies |
| 15:18 | <Eugene> | Have you tried turning it off and back on again |
| 15:19 | <nyancat> | Oh wow, my first hit |
| 15:19 | <cruxeternus> | Shame on you Eugene.. running an open proxy |
| 15:20 | <Eugene> | Not recently ? |
| 15:21 | <nyancat> | What I’m wondering is how did it take this one particular guy two years to realize there was a problem |
| 15:22 | <nyancat> | His listing is over 2 years old and this is the first request for removal I’ve ever seen from him. An absolute shit reason at that. |
| 15:22 | <nyancat> | Hell. Still the wrong channel. |
| 15:22 | * | cruxeternus is fascinate though. |
| 15:23 | <Eugene> | Oh, you must be talking about somebody I can't see |
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| 15:23 | <Eugene> | I /ignore a lot of the traffic that goes on in this channel (un-registered users for a start) |
| 15:23 | <nyancat> | Yeah, I’m testing proxies for removal from dronebl |
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| 15:24 | <nyancat> | It the only three talking are myself, cruxeternus and you |
| 15:24 | <Eugene> | Have you tried turning them off and back on again |
| 15:24 | <cruxeternus> | I made a complicated context joke that probably confused you |
| 15:24 | <Eugene> | I have been drinking sice 5PM |
| 15:24 | <Eugene> | London time |
| 15:24 | <cruxeternus> | Ah, I'll keep it to dad jokes then! |
| 15:25 | <nyancat> | Eugene: more like Linode time |
| 15:29 | * | LouWestin Eugene has been drinking for about 3 hours now |
| 15:31 | <Eugene> | Anybody else in London? Lambeth specifically |
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| 15:56 | <raj> | Btw thanks for the help earlier Eugene, not sure if I thanked you earlier |
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| 16:02 | <cruxeternus> | !point Eugene |
| 16:02 | <linbot> | cruxeternus: Point given to eugene. (90) (Biggest fan: zifnab, total: 28) |
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| 16:20 | <zifnab> | !lick Eugene |
| 16:20 | <linbot> | zifnab: Point given to eugene. (91) |
| 16:21 | <zifnab> | Eugene: I had beer with lunch. I might continue after my meeting with my boss at 2. |
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| 16:59 | <Sloth> | Hi there.. |
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| 17:27 | <kharlan11> | Does anyone know what obligation linode has to store connection logs? What if a US court ordered connection logs from 6 months ago for example. |
| 17:28 | <kharlan11> | The overhead for something like that doesn't seem economically possible. |
| 17:29 | <DrJ> | kharlan11: they store no connection logs for connections to your server |
| 17:29 | <DrJ> | as in, like if someone ssh'd or accessed a website |
| 17:29 | <kharlan11> | hmm and they're not legally obligated to? |
| 17:29 | <DrJ> | of course minus the fact that your server surely logs such things and they of course store the server |
| 17:29 | <DrJ> | no |
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| 17:30 | <DrJ> | in some cases a court order could force them to |
| 17:30 | <kharlan11> | Does the same apply for let's say.. an email provider. They wouldn't be binded by law to store sent/received emails for X months? |
| 17:30 | <DrJ> | nope |
| 17:30 | <DrJ> | but again, a court order could |
| 17:30 | <kharlan11> | yeah, I'm talking about before the order. |
| 17:31 | <DrJ> | outside of a court order a company like linode isn't required to log anything |
| 17:31 | <kharlan11> | A client of mine doesn't understand that our email vendor isn't obligated to store mailbox snapshots for x months by default.. they didn't want to pay for archiving \o/ |
| 17:31 | <nate> | Linode is a US company, they're not necessarily upheld by the laws elsewhere with exception of maybe locations they have systems at (and even then it would probably would only apply to that location). That said VPS companies don't generally log that level of connection data, that would be an IMMENSE amount of data :P |
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| 17:31 | <kharlan11> | yeah, I kinda assumed that. |
| 17:31 | <DrJ> | now the catch again is linodes will log by default and a court order could force linode to make a snapshot of that server and hand it over, which would contain logs |
| 17:31 | <kharlan11> | Thanks all :) |
| 17:32 | <nate> | Oh yeah that kinda stuff? Yeah no, no company is mandated to keep backups |
| 17:32 | <nate> | lol |
| 17:32 | <DrJ> | let me rephrase that, OSes running inside a linode will log by default in most cases |
| 17:34 | <nate> | Yeah. Sounds like they have a disgruntled client though that provider snapshots/backups weren't being done |
| 17:34 | <kharlan11> | yep. |
| 17:34 | <kharlan11> | They didn't want to pay for it. |
| 17:35 | <nate> | Sounds like your client doesn't understand cost efficiency :P |
| 17:35 | <kharlan11> | most clients don't. |
| 17:35 | <kharlan11> | until something happens, and they freak. |
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| 18:35 | <Eugene> | raj - If I was helpful, the good karma is more than sufficient. I honestly don't remember, my life is a blur. Thanks for the good feels, I'm off to bed drunk |
| 18:35 | <Eugene> | You can always !lick me ;-) |
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| 19:01 | <Sameir> | Hi.. i need advice about new hoating .. which is faster vps or cloud? |
| 19:02 | <nuevu> | That's a bit like asking which is colder, ice or frozen water. |
| 19:03 | <gparent> | nuevu delivering some truth as a service there |
| 19:03 | <nuevu> | Do you have specific examples that you'd like to compare? |
| 19:03 | <Sameir> | Hhhhhhhhhh , i do not have that much of exeriance give me your advice ... its classifieds website with WP cms |
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| 19:05 | <Sameir> | Hello any advices ? |
| 19:05 | <Sameir> | Sorry i was disconnected |
| 19:06 | <nuevu> | I think you'll find that any differences in "speed" are going to largely be obscured by your software stack. |
| 19:07 | <nuevu> | It's doubtful that the differences matter *that* much right now. The best thing to do is just try one or more with your actual code/site and see how it does. |
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| 19:09 | <Sameir> | How to make test with my code before perchase hosting.. i shall appreciate if ypu show me the way |
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| 19:10 | <nuevu> | Linode, I believe, still offers a money-back "trial" period. |
| 19:10 | <nuevu> | Either way, it's super cheap per hour. |
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| 19:11 | <nuevu> | Sameir: (And there's a promo code to help get you started here: https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/) |
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| 19:11 | <Sameir> | Per hour is good to try .. that really valuable info thanks a lot |
| 19:13 | <Sameir> | Dose it affect when i use clouflair on the site? I mean if i go for the vps and also activate premium account with cloud flair will it change the speed ? |
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| 19:16 | <|GIG> | Only been with linode a couple months but so far I've been impressed with the reliability and uptime. It's far superior to all the 'budget' places that are out there. And Linode is close to the same price. |
| 19:17 | <|GIG> | I' |
| 19:17 | <|GIG> | Im only using the shared VPS I have, for an IRCD server. But its bee 100% so far. |
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| 19:25 | <dwfreed> | LouWestin: if it's on your account, then you've agreed to the ToS already |
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| 20:30 | <LouWestin> | Dwfreed: I could run it through my account and give her her own login access |
| 20:30 | <dwfreed> | yep |
| 20:30 | <dwfreed> | that'd be best, from the legal contract standpoint |
| 20:31 | <LouWestin> | I forget that Linode has that option |
| 21:15 | <LouWestin> | I went ahead and added her to my account with all the options she'll need |
| 21:32 | <kharlan11> | I wish my uncle did that for me. He gave me a microsoft word docx and told me it was my own website. |
| 21:32 | <Toba> | omg |
| 21:33 | <Toba> | So mean. |
| 21:33 | <kharlan11> | nah he just didn't know how to setup apache. |
| 21:35 | <kharlan11> | wow. He probably got the idea from 'The Office' ( US ). |
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| 21:46 | <LouWestin> | LOL |
| 21:47 | <kharlan11> | LouWestin: I wasn't a bright child. |
| 21:47 | <kharlan11> | You can't pull that sort of stuff these days :( |
| 21:47 | <LouWestin> | I played with DOS, Windows 3.1 solitare, and Flight simulator 5 |
| 21:49 | <LouWestin> | My dad would have no idea how to setup Apache. Fix something broken on your car, absolutly! |
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| 22:01 | <FormyKniight> | Hey I am wanting to buy a VPS and wanted to know if Linodes offers windows servers? |
| 22:01 | <kharlan11> | !lindows |
| 22:02 | <nate> | Was the "Lin" in linode would imply, officially they do not :P. There are to my understanding still ways you can technically 'custom' install, via a decent bit of effort lol |
| 22:02 | <LouWestin> | !windows |
| 22:02 | <linbot> | It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501#issuecomment-232414947 |
| 22:02 | <LouWestin> | FormyKniight see above link |
| 22:03 | <kharlan11> | ^ Thanks LouWestin :p |
| 22:04 | <FormyKniight> | AH yes I know how to set up in KVM still it would require a higher plan as more RAM is going to be needed, ram for the VPS and ram for the KVM |
| 22:04 | <FormyKniight> | Was wanting to test the VPS still would require a some effort, downloading ISO etc just to test. |
| 22:05 | <LouWestin> | yep yep |
| 22:05 | <FormyKniight> | And haha did put two and two together in the linode for linux nodes |
| 22:05 | <LouWestin> | and you're welcome kharlan11 |
| 22:05 | <FormyKniight> | Didn't |
| 22:06 | <FormyKniight> | Well how easy is it to open ports on the VPS? |
| 22:07 | <Toba> | easy |
| 22:07 | <Toba> | it depends on your distro |
| 22:07 | <FormyKniight> | To see if it should be worth my time, are they automatically opened ? Some have to go through a hassle just to get ports open. |
| 22:07 | <Toba> | it is more secure to always make it a conscious decision to open the ports |
| 22:08 | <Toba> | sometimes you end up with stuff you never configured properly or didn't intend to use, exposed on the internet. |
| 22:08 | <LouWestin> | Centos has a firewall turned on by default |
| 22:08 | <Toba> | It's not that hard to open ports |
| 22:08 | <LouWestin> | Debian doesn't |
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| 22:08 | <LouWestin> | He/she gone |
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| 22:09 | <LouWestin> | wb |
| 22:10 | <Fortmyknigght> | Thanks, so debian/ubuntu has no firewall so ports are automatically opened, then centro has firewall on by default meaning I would neef to do more configuration. |
| 22:10 | <kharlan11> | it's pretty simple to install ufw and do 'ufw default deny incoming' and the same for outgoing |
| 22:10 | <LouWestin> | Cent is on by default and has 22 open |
| 22:10 | <kharlan11> | and the windows firewall opens up a lot of useless stuff :P. |
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| 22:11 | <LouWestin> | gone again |
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| 22:11 | <LouWestin> | wb |
| 22:11 | <Fortmyknigght> | Ah on mobile mb. |
| 22:11 | <LouWestin> | There should be a good IRC client on mobile |
| 22:12 | <Fortmyknigght> | Ok so yea I mean it would probably be a better route to go ubuntu and leave the ones I am to use open and disable the ones I am not to use. |
| 22:12 | <LouWestin> | Well you can disable cent's firewall |
| 22:12 | <LouWestin> | or configure it to what you need |
| 22:12 | <Fortmyknigght> | So in general terms if I buy a VPS debian/ubuntu and go to https://canyouseeme.org/ it should show them as open correct? |
| 22:12 | <kharlan11> | if you install web server, yes. |
| 22:13 | <Fortmyknigght> | Without me having a server running as of yet. |
| 22:13 | <kharlan11> | and get a ssl certificate and configure it correctly. |
| 22:13 | <LouWestin> | for SSL I'd run certbot Let's encrypt |
| 22:13 | <Fortmyknigght> | Oh ok so https://canyouseeme.org/ only shows as open only when a server is running? |
| 22:13 | <Fortmyknigght> | Tjat is using such port? |
| 22:14 | <LouWestin> | you need either apache or nginx to serve the web page/site |
| 22:14 | <kharlan11> | or lighttpd* |
| 22:14 | <kharlan11> | Don't forget the best. |
| 22:14 | <LouWestin> | by default port 80 and 443 |
| 22:14 | <LouWestin> | I learn new things here every day |
| 22:15 | <LouWestin> | are you looking to run a webserver? |
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| 22:15 | <LouWestin> | gone again |
| 22:15 | <kharlan11> | I think he's misunderstanding. |
| 22:16 | <kharlan11> | He probably assumes they come pre installed with a web server. |
| 22:16 | <LouWestin> | Well there is stack scripts, but that's not the same thing |
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| 22:17 | <LouWestin> | might be better to managed or semi-managed |
| 22:17 | <Fortmyknight> | Ah disconnetec again couldnt see answer to my last question if there was one. |
| 22:17 | <LouWestin> | ok so Fortmyknight you know this is an un-managed service? |
| 22:19 | <Fortmyknight> | Un managed service ? Havent looked into it. |
| 22:19 | <LouWestin> | ok, that means that you have to install and setup everything |
| 22:19 | <LouWestin> | ah... let me pull up a guide |
| 22:20 | <Fortmyknight> | Ah ok I mean I can do setting everything up on my own. |
| 22:20 | <Fortmyknight> | Still the problem lies in port forwarding/opening ports, havent done so in like 6 years. |
| 22:21 | <LouWestin> | k. https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started/ just in case and then there's guide to install the web server, php, mysql, etc, etc |
| 22:21 | <Fortmyknight> | I want ro run a game server |
| 22:21 | <LouWestin> | when you get to the secure your server guide that covers the port stuff |
| 22:21 | <LouWestin> | https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server/ |
| 22:22 | <LouWestin> | You won't be port-forwarding most likely since you're not running a Linksys router |
| 22:22 | <Fortmyknight> | Ok was hoping to get a answer to the last question I asled before dcing. If i set up Ubuntu once I go to https://canyouseeme.org/ would ports automatically show as open or do I first need to have a server running in which is listening to such port? |
| 22:23 | <LouWestin> | no you need to set up everything |
| 22:23 | <Fortmyknight> | Ah ok, |
| 22:23 | <LouWestin> | point the domain to the server's IP address, etc. That's easy in Linode's manager |
| 22:24 | <LouWestin> | and you have to allow or not your firewall to handle port stuff |
| 22:24 | <LouWestin> | it's in the secure guide |
| 22:25 | <LouWestin> | gotta go now for dinner. It's a great service just follow the guides |
| 22:25 | <Fortmyknight> | Ok thank you will read in. Thabk you so kuch for answering my questions |
| 22:25 | <LouWestin> | come here when youhave questions |
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| 22:27 | <linbot> | New news from community: Sendmail on Debian 8 - sent emails are incredibly slow <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18440> |
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