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02:27<Dany>Hello there
02:27<Dany>I am preparing a quote for a client and i need to know if i can have backups for the block storage
02:27<Dany>any ideas?
02:27<Dany>i can see on the site that backups are available for the servers only
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03:52<Claudio>is this abuse chat?
03:52<Claudio>or can I write somebody related an Abuse?
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07:25<Victor_>Hi! I'm running a server on linnode with nothing listening on port 80. Still "nc localhost 80" gives me a 400 bad request. Any one know how this is possible? I'm trying to run a web server but it's routed somewhere else
07:25<grawity>how did you check that there's nothing listening
07:25<Victor_>sudo netstat -l | grep 80
07:26<grawity>and that returned no output whatsoever?
07:26<Victor_>just some streams with 80 in the numbers
07:27<Victor_>but nothing listening
07:27<Peng>Hypothetically, you could use something like iptables to redirect port 80 to a different port
07:27<grawity>check your iptables or nft rules then
07:27<Victor_>I've done iptables -F and disabled uwf
07:28<Victor_>still same issue
07:28<grawity>check your *all* iptables rules, not only the filter stuff
07:28<Peng>and ip6tables?
07:28<grawity>run `iptables-save` and `ip6tables-save` and report what output you get
07:29<Victor_>ups that might have been it :)
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07:31<Victor_>did ip6tables -F and now nc localhost 80 gives me nothing, but still same thing connecting from the outside
07:32<grawity>did you -F all tables
07:32<grawity>like -t nat, or -t mangle
07:32<Victor_>nop i tought -F cleaned everything
07:32<Peng>iptables-save and ip6tables-save show what rules actually exist, so you don't have to guess and flush them
07:33<Peng>-F just flushes the filter table by default
07:33<Peng>there are other tables, like nat and raw
07:33<Peng>wait, grawity said that already
07:33<grawity>Victor_: in iptables there can be four tables – filter, nat, mangle, raw – each has its own chains (INPUT, OUTPUT, etc. etc.)
07:34<grawity>Victor_: save/restore work with all of them, but regular iptables commands (like -L or -F) only work with filter, unless you specify otherwise
07:35<Victor_>thanks, did not know that :)
07:36<grawity>and a lot of this "packets going where they shouldn't" mess is caused by forgotten rules in nat or mangle, e.g. added by docker or similar
07:36<Victor_>Aha I see. I've been playing with kubernetes and I'm guessing thats to blame
07:39<Victor_>I think I will be able to solve it now. Thanks for your help
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09:14<linbot>New news from community: How do I restrict access to my site via plain IP address? <>
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09:58<velesh>I have a problem with linode after rebooting. Says Error establishing a database connection
09:58<velesh>I broke my mind how to solve it...
09:58<millisa>is your database service running?
09:58<velesh>I don't know how to check. Last time i rebooted linode it didn;t require it to run separatly
09:58<millisa>which database service are you running?
09:59<millisa>which OS?
09:59<velesh>Linode Details Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
10:00<millisa>systemctl start mysql
10:01<velesh>Explain, should i open a console and run this command?
10:01<millisa>that would be how you would start mysql if it's not running
10:01<millisa>systemctl status mysql <-- might give you details on its status
10:01<millisa>your logs would probably tell you the most
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13:35<Alastor_McKee>Hi all.. I am having an issue with my crontab *Seemingly* not working??? I am using webmin to make the cron tab... *NEVER* had an issue in the 10 years I have been using it.. till I switched to Linode? anyone offer any insight?
13:35<millisa>is cron running? have you looked in your cron logs?
13:36<Alastor_McKee>lemme have a look... I'm still rather new to Linux
13:37<grawity>if webmin has a "services" section, look through that services section
13:38<LouWestin>Happy Monday by the way!
13:38<grawity>otherwise try to do at least some of your linuxing through direct commands via SSH
13:39<LouWestin>It could be that the system he came from had additional packages installed which aren’t installed on his Linode.
13:40<Alastor_McKee>I appreciate your sentiment Grawity, But being disabled.. I do *Whatever* is necessary to both ease and speed my workflow...
13:40<Alastor_McKee>according to webmin
13:40<Alastor_McKee>the cron tab is there
13:40<Alastor_McKee>how can I check to see if cron is running?
13:40<Alastor_McKee>I didn't know it was possible for it to *Not* run
13:41<LouWestin>Alastor_McKee: where did you host before?
13:41<millisa>depends on the underlying os. systemctl status crond on recent centos would give some hit
13:41<millisa>or look in your process list for a crond-ish process.
13:41<Alastor_McKee>always been on my own machines @ home.. But recently had to downgrade my internet connection
13:42<LouWestin>Ah ok
13:44<millisa>grep CRON /var/log/syslog - should show you what cron is firing
13:44<LouWestin>I’d get off the root account.
13:44<grawity>is that how webmin looks nowadays
13:44<Alastor_McKee>with the 'DarkTheme"
13:50<gparent>looks a little less clicky than many years ago
13:53<Alastor_McKee>for the past 10 years
13:53<Alastor_McKee>it's been solid
13:53<Alastor_McKee>never had an issue till now
13:54<Alastor_McKee>[ OK ] Update LinuxGSM wurmserver: Updating functions wurmserver@localhost:~$ ./wurmserver-restart -su: ./wurmserver-restart: No such file or directory wurmserver@localhost:~$ ./wurmserver restart [ WARN ] _default.cfg has been altered. reloading config.
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16:05<linbot>New news from community: [Solved] How to deposit money? <>
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16:45<linbot>New news from community: Turning default image icon into actual thumbnail image in Virtualmin <>
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18:44<zifnab>!lick Eugene
18:44<linbot>zifnab: Point given to eugene. (92)
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20:52<Rvby1>Not sure if this is the place for this question, but can anyone vouch for Linode not overselling their nodes? Been hearing that's a big probem with OVH.
20:54<nuevu>Never had a problem here with that.
20:55<nuevu>I have had some noisy neighbors in the past, but Linode is pretty good about either dealing with them, or allowing you to migrate toa new node if it's bad enough.
20:56<linbot>New news from community: Debian 10 LEMP Tuning | For WordPress Sites <>
20:58<Rvby1>Okay, awesome! Are there any data caps or throttling issues?
20:58<nate>There's a maximum allotment of traffic included a month, anything over that you get charged for, not cap'd on.
20:58<nuevu>"data caps" are listed with the plans:
20:58<nate>However your data allotment is also 'shared' across all linodes
21:00<Rvby1>Wait, as in other VPSs on your node will also eat in your data cap? And ooph, didn't realize Transfer referred to the data allotment. Sorry about that!
21:01<dwfreed>as in all your Linodes pull their transfer together
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21:01<nate>As in like if you get two 2GB linode instances, that's 2TB from each linode usable across all linodes. ie; one linode would be able to use up to the 4TB limit, it's not explicitly just 2TB to each individual linode. Also worth noting -inbound- traffic does not count against your allotment
21:01<nuevu>Each Linode comes with its own transfer allotment, but they're all combined and available as a single pool.
21:01<synfinatic>no. if you have 5 linodes, then the allotment is shared across all 5 in a single pool. other customer nodes has nothing to do with it
21:03<dwfreed>note that inbound/outbound is from the perspective of the Linode
21:03<dwfreed>so inbound is to the Linode, and outbound is from the Linode
21:04<Rvby1>Ohhh, okay, that makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarification! Sorry to bother y'all with one last question, but have any of you used a Linnode for running a small Minecraft server? If so, how'd it tend to hold up? I'm thinking about the Linode 2GB plan.
21:04<Toba>I'm sure it would work fine
21:04<dwfreed>many people do
21:04<dwfreed>if it's only a couple players, not a lot of resource intensive mods, it should be fine
21:05<nate>define 'small'? I ran one off a 1GB Linode for a good while but it only had like 5 people tops (though I was also using openjdk which was a bit more efficient, though I think openjdk is also more or less the default JRE on most distros now)
21:06<dwfreed>nate: openjdk is the reference jdk since at least 8
21:06<dwfreed>they're up to 11 now, iirc
21:07<Rvby1>Thanks for the feedback! By small, I'm talking 10 players or so at one time max, probably running Spigot with a few resource-light plugins.
21:07<dwfreed>probably fine then
21:08<nate>dwfreed: It has been a fair while :P
21:10<Rvby1>Yeah, haha, probably far more intensive than it used to be. :P Pretty sure 1GB wouldn't really cut it anymore. Hopefully the 2GB with the single core is enough, haha. Thanks for all the help!
21:13<Rvby1>nate or dw, either of you have a referral code you want me to use?
21:15<nate>I have literally no idea what mine is, never used it lol
21:17<Rvby1>Haha, fair enough. dw?
21:17<Rvby1>Or nuevu?
21:18<Rvby1>(Not sure if it actually does anything good for you. If not, just lemme know, haha)
21:18<nate>I think we just get a small credit on our bill or something, I honestly never looked into it. Probably should have ages ago, I've brought many a client to linode even lol
21:20<Rvby1>Well, if you wanna look into it now real quick, I'd love to throw you a little credit. :P
21:26<linbot>New news from community: Did not upgrade GRUB when updating Debian... <>
21:34<Rvby1>Want me to just go ahead with it, nate? :P
22:01<dwfreed>Rvby1: mine is b66b4c90d7429bbacd66eab3bce19daf73f6bcec if it's not too late
22:12<Rvby1>Dwfreed: nope! I added you as my referral! :) Thank you all for the help!
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22:55<Dragon>+10 points dwfreed
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23:51<Petersonz>can anyone point me to a link that shows how to upload an existing Linux server to Linode using the rescue disk?
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23:58<linbot>New news from community: How to activate my account? <>
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