| --- | Log | opened Tue Jul 16 00:00:10 2019 |
| 00:29 | <rgerke1> | @petersonz I'd be happy to point you in the right direction with this - is the rescue disk attached to one of your Linodes or is it on a different system? |
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| 01:42 | <Kamranahsan> | Hello |
| 01:42 | <rgerke1> | Hello! |
| 01:43 | <Kamranahsan> | I have a query about vps and dedicated server |
| 01:43 | <Kamranahsan> | can i ask to you |
| 01:43 | <linbot> | Kamranahsan: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
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| 01:47 | <rgerke1> | You can ask me. I'm a member of the Linode support team and I'm happy to help. |
| 01:47 | <rgerke1> | / mouse enable |
| 01:48 | <rgerke1> | Oops. Extra space in there. |
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| 02:00 | <gaurav_> | hello |
| 02:01 | <gaurav_> | i need some to install ssl certificate in lenode server |
| 02:01 | <gaurav_> | ? |
| 02:02 | <gaurav_> | anyone there?? |
| 02:03 | <grawity> | gaurav_: what software – apache2? nginx? something else? |
| 02:04 | <gaurav_> | something else, its being manage with haproxy |
| 02:04 | <rgerke1> | Hi there. I'm with the Linode support team. I'mhappy to assist. |
| 02:04 | <Zr40> | no, you're not. |
| 02:04 | <grawity> | gaurav_: do you already have the certificate itself? |
| 02:04 | <Zr40> | !ops |
| 02:04 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact |
| 02:05 | <grawity> | rgerke1: I'm generally used to Linode staff having the op hat on all the time |
| 02:05 | <gaurav_> | @rgerke1, i am unable to install ssl certificate in my lenode intance |
| 02:05 | <rgerke1> | Have you tried using Let's Encryt? |
| 02:07 | <gaurav_> | @grawity, yes i already created certificate and configure it, now as i m going to encript certbot command its not being install and its saying certbot is not installed, and as i m going to install certbot then i m getting no package is located (i have ubuntu 14.10 on this lenode intance) |
| 02:07 | <grawity> | gaurav_: certbot is only available as a package in 16.04 or later |
| 02:07 | <grawity> | gaurav_: for older Ubuntu you'll need to download certbot-auto from its website |
| 02:08 | <gaurav_> | @rgerke1 , yes i have tried lets encript |
| 02:09 | <gaurav_> | @grawity, thanks i m trying to install certbot-auto for my lenode instance (ubuntu 14.10) |
| 02:11 | <rgerke1> | grawity is correct. You can download certbot-auto from the site. |
| 02:12 | <rgerke1> | I'm looking for a link to send you now. |
| 02:12 | <gaurav_> | @grawity & @rgerke1, do you have any link to download certbot-auto i m unable to find it on certbot website |
| 02:12 | <Peng> | 14.10 has been EOL for years. |
| 02:12 | <grawity> | I searched for "certbot-auto", got https://certbot.eff.org/docs/install.html#certbot-auto |
| 02:12 | <Peng> | The most recent version of certbot-auto might not be compatible. |
| 02:13 | <gaurav_> | @peng, but there is a old server still using |
| 02:13 | <grawity> | Peng: what version of Python does it have? |
| 02:13 | <Peng> | Heck if I know. |
| 02:13 | <Peng> | Certbot just dropped support for 14.04 in the most recent version. I assume they haven't tested on 14.10 in years, but I have no idea if it would work. |
| 02:14 | <Peng> | rgerke1: Is your Linode really using 14.10? Not 14.04 or 18.10 or something? |
| 02:15 | <gaurav_> | Thanks @grawity for giving me link |
| 02:15 | <rgerke1> | Peng: That's gaurav's Linode. |
| 02:16 | <rgerke1> | gaurav: Is it 14.04? |
| 02:16 | <Peng> | Darn it. |
| 02:17 | <Peng> | I fixed it every time I typed grawity instead of gaurav_, but then I said rgerke1 instead. Sorry. |
| 02:18 | <rgerke1> | That's okay. I have a 14.04 Linode I use for testing. I'm in it right now. |
| 02:18 | <Peng> | :D |
| 02:18 | <gaurav_> | @rgerke1 its ubuntu 14.10 |
| 02:21 | <rgerke1> | 14.04 and 14.10 should work the same when it comes to SSL. |
| 02:22 | <rgerke1> | You can always do it manually, too. https://www.ssldragon.com/blog/how-to-install-an-ssl-certificate-on-ubuntu/ |
| 02:22 | <Unit193> | Since 14.10 lost support in 2015, it'd be very good to update as well. |
| 02:25 | <rgerke1> | Unit193: Agreed. My opinion is that if you want to upgrade, do it with a new Linode. Rebuild the stack, transfer the data and then swap IPs. That way if something goes wrong during the upgrade, no real damage is caused. |
| 02:25 | <gaurav_> | @Unit193, i would like to update, but i have older software which compatible with this version, if i update i need to get update that web application also\ |
| 02:26 | <rgerke1> | gaurav_: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04/ |
| 02:28 | <rgerke1> | gaurav_: Also, https://www.linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/upgrade-to-ubuntu-18-04/ |
| 02:28 | <Peng> | 14.10 has to go 15.04 - 15.10 - 16.04 - 18.04, doesn't it? |
| 02:28 | <gaurav_> | thanks @rgerke1 |
| 02:29 | <rgerke1> | You can go from 14 to 16, and then 16.04 and from there to 18.04 |
| 02:29 | <Unit193> | There's also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades |
| 02:29 | <rgerke1> | Let me rephrase that - 14.10 - 16.04 and then 16.04 to 18.04 |
| 02:30 | <Unit193> | Peng: Ideally, yes. |
| 02:33 | <rgerke1> | If you run into any trouble, opena support ticket. There's always a bunch of us on. |
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| 05:11 | <linbot> | New news from community: How Can I calculate exact bandwidth of linode server <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18463> |
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| 05:34 | <Amit> | Hi |
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| 07:32 | <linbot> | New news from community: After switching to GSuite, my site's contact form doesn't send. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18464> |
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| 07:52 | <linbot> | New news from community: Python Script <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18465> |
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| 11:33 | <LouWestin> | I missed that person who wanted to run a Minecraft server. Yeah 2GB minimum, might need the 2c 4GB plan though. |
| 11:34 | <LouWestin> | They’re fixing the lag issues, so should be better soon. |
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| 11:53 | <linbot> | New news from kernels: 5.1.17-x86_64-linode128 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1563290793#346> || 5.1.17-x86-linode148 <https://www.linode.com/kernels/?ver=1563290735#345> |
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| 12:03 | <linbot> | New news from community: What ports and IP addresses does Lish use? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18467> || Remove reverse DNS settings <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18466> |
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| 12:33 | <linbot> | New news from community: What ports and IP addresses does Lish use? The corporate firewall is blocking access. <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18467> |
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| 12:52 | <Sanjay> | Can I run spring boot application on the server |
| 12:52 | <@pwoods> | Sanjay: yup! https://www.linode.com/docs/development/java/how-to-deploy-spring-boot-applications-nginx-ubuntu-16-04/ |
| 12:53 | <@pwoods> | That's our guide for deploying with a Nginx reverse proxy on Ubuntu 16.04 |
| 12:54 | <Sanjay> | Thanks |
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| 13:53 | <RockRidgeHomes> | How can i log into my webpage to make changes? |
| 13:54 | <dzho> | RockRidgeHomes: there's a lot to unpack in that question. |
| 13:55 | <dzho> | generally speaking "we don't know" is the best answer, because you could be running any from a vast array of web server software |
| 13:56 | <dzho> | do you know what it's running? |
| 13:56 | <dzho> | who set it up? |
| 13:56 | <RockRidgeHomes> | i don't |
| 13:56 | <dzho> | what kind of changes do you need to make? |
| 13:56 | <RockRidgeHomes> | add things to my webpage |
| 13:57 | <dzho> | ok, that's two answers to three questions. |
| 13:57 | <dzho> | you could also just post the URL, that might give some hints as to what it's running. |
| 13:57 | <dzho> | you should have credentials that allow you to log onto manager.linode.com |
| 13:57 | <dzho> | although that is not the best interface for making the kind of changes you want |
| 13:58 | <dzho> | that's more for "wholesale" changes than for "retail" changes |
| 13:58 | <RockRidgeHomes> | 72.14.191.179 |
| 13:59 | <RockRidgeHomes> | Normally i can just put that into the web address and log in, on another computer it is not allowing me a log in option |
| 13:59 | <dzho> | ah, wordpress |
| 13:59 | <dzho> | I wonder if the machne that lets you log in has a username and password for the site stored. |
| 14:00 | <dzho> | do you still have access to that machine? |
| 14:00 | <RockRidgeHomes> | yes |
| 14:00 | <dzho> | does that machine still let you log in? |
| 14:00 | <RockRidgeHomes> | yes |
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| 14:00 | <RockRidgeHomes> | but that machine is in another office now |
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| 14:01 | <dzho> | yes, well. |
| 14:01 | <dzho> | do you have the username and password, but don't know the URL?> |
| 14:01 | <dzho> | or do you not know the URL? |
| 14:01 | <dzho> | or do you need both? |
| 14:01 | <RockRidgeHomes> | i know both |
| 14:01 | <dzho> | https://www.wpbeginner.com/beginners-guide/how-to-find-your-wordpress-login-url/ |
| 14:01 | <dzho> | oh, hmm. |
| 14:02 | * | dzho wonders if the admin features have been restricted to a specific IP |
| 14:03 | <RockRidgeHomes> | thats what i was thinking |
| 14:03 | <RockRidgeHomes> | so how can i change that |
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| 15:32 | <Tarif> | One of my websites is not reachable without www |
| 15:32 | <Tarif> | What can I do? |
| 15:33 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I update a 1&1 SSL certificate on Ubuntu 16.04? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18468> |
| 15:35 | <Guest7731> | add www |
| 15:36 | <Tarif> | @Guest7731: How? |
| 15:36 | <Guest7731> | that was a joke : check your apache / nginx config |
| 15:37 | <Tarif> | I have checked it, it looks similar to another server that works without www. |
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| 15:40 | <Manu_> | Hi |
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| 16:07 | <nuevu> | Tarif: What's the domain? Do you have proper DNS entries? |
| 16:08 | <Tarif> | @nuevu: Yes, I do. |
| 16:08 | <Tarif> | @nuevu: It's khelahobe.co |
| 16:09 | <nuevu> | That doesn't resolve for me here. |
| 16:09 | <nuevu> | !dns khelahobe.co |
| 16:09 | <linbot> | nuevu: Host not found. |
| 16:09 | <Tarif> | I tried to configure nginx yesterday, now it redirects from my browser, but doesn't ping from terminal. |
| 16:09 | <Tarif> | I see, but www.khelahobe.co works. |
| 16:10 | <nuevu> | Yep, so you need to add appropriate records (A and AAAA) for the apex/bare domain that matches what you have for www. |
| 16:11 | <Tarif> | How can I do that? |
| 16:11 | <nuevu> | And since it looks like you're using the DNS manager with Linode, there will be a ~15 minute delay between entering the record(s) and having them show up. |
| 16:11 | <Tarif> | Ok. |
| 16:11 | <nuevu> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/manager/dns-manager/ |
| 16:12 | <Tarif> | Thanks. I'll try from your link. |
| 16:14 | <@bbigger> | Tarif: when adding the A record, just leave the "Hostname" field blank |
| 16:15 | <Tarif> | bbigger: Thanks :D I was doing just that :D Thanks |
| 16:15 | <Tarif> | @bbigger: I think this will work. Let me wait for 15 minutes. |
| 16:22 | <nuevu> | Tarif: Looks like it's resolving here now. |
| 16:22 | <nuevu> | !dns khelahobe.co |
| 16:22 | <linbot> | nuevu: Host not found. |
| 16:22 | <nuevu> | Heh, not quite everywhere yet. |
| 16:23 | <Tarif> | @nuevu: Is this a progress? |
| 16:23 | <Tarif> | nuevu: Where did it resolve? |
| 16:24 | <Tarif> | ping is working now. |
| 16:24 | <nuevu> | Hitting the Linode nameservers directly (with dig) shows they're advertising the correct value, so it's just a matter of time before downstream servers start resolving it correctly. |
| 16:25 | <Tarif> | nuevu: Do I need to do anything else? |
| 16:26 | <nuevu> | Nope. |
| 16:26 | <Tarif> | !dns khelahobe.co |
| 16:26 | <linbot> | Tarif: Host not found. |
| 16:26 | <Tarif> | Thanks a lot nuevu and bbigger for your help. :D |
| 16:26 | <nuevu> | Glad to help get that sorted out. |
| 16:26 | <@bbigger> | !point nuevu |
| 16:26 | <linbot> | bbigger: Point given to nuevu. (1) |
| 16:28 | <Tarif> | !point bbigger |
| 16:28 | <linbot> | Tarif: Point given to bbigger. (10) |
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| 18:39 | <erhv> | Hi, someone could tell me how can i mirror a linode automatically ? |
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| 18:54 | <LouWestin> | I'm trying to get postfix to send a password reset email from wordpress. I can receive echo test emails to my email account, but nothing when resetting |
| 19:06 | <LouWestin> | It could simply be gmail blocking |
| 19:09 | <nate> | if you're not using SMTP it's almost certainly gmail blocking |
| 19:09 | <nate> | I'm used to normal mail() out stuff almost always being blocked by filters or such simply because it's commonly spam anyways |
| 19:10 | <LouWestin> | I don't think smtp is built into wordpress anyway, so might need a plugin |
| 19:10 | <LouWestin> | which I might pass since it's not that important |
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| 19:45 | <millisa> | does your postfix log show it handing off to gmail ok? |
| 19:48 | <millisa> | (with gmail, if you have the forward/reverse/helo triumvirate, a good spf record that includes the sender, and a good from/envelope from that isn't 'apache@' or some variation of 'www@' it usually will get through) |
| 20:14 | <nate> | LouWestin: Yeah it's plugin required unfortunately (never understood why wordpress doesn't just make it native) |
| 20:19 | <KevinM1> | Hey, I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me re:upgrading Debian...? |
| 20:19 | <millisa> | We'll find out when you ask |
| 20:19 | <KevinM1> | Heh, fair enough |
| 20:19 | <KevinM1> | Okay, so I was following along with the tutorial |
| 20:20 | <KevinM1> | I had set the boot to GRUB2 from the dashboard dropdown |
| 20:20 | <KevinM1> | I thought that would either stick without a reboot, or that the system would automatically reboot because of the setting change |
| 20:21 | <KevinM1> | Unfortunately, neither are the case |
| 20:21 | <KevinM1> | So, when I ran sudo apt upgrade, I never got prompted to keep/change the existing config or otherwise set things up |
| 20:21 | <KevinM1> | I'm a bit concerned about going forward with the dist-upgrade |
| 20:22 | <KevinM1> | Is there a way to fix this? |
| 20:22 | <KevinM1> | Should I even be concerned |
| 20:22 | <KevinM1> | ? |
| 20:22 | <KevinM1> | It's an upgrade from Jessie to Stable if that makes a difference |
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| 20:25 | <millisa> | You are talking about switching the boot settings from the linode kernel to grub2? Like they talk about here? https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/how-to-change-your-linodes-kernel/ |
| 20:25 | <KevinM1> | I can still access my instance via LISH if I set the boot option to a kernel. If I set it to GRUB2, I just get a grub> prompt |
| 20:26 | <millisa> | (there's steps on that link for switching to the upstream kernel) |
| 20:26 | <millisa> | (this bit - https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/how-to-change-your-linodes-kernel/#no-upstream-kernel-installed) |
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| 20:28 | <KevinM1> | Ah, okay... I'll try it out, thanks! |
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| 20:48 | <LouWestin> | @ nate and millisa, I'm not going to bother with it too much since it's not really a big issue |
| 20:59 | <KevinM1> | Seems like the Debian upgrade worked, so thanks again! |
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| 21:57 | <LouWestin> | gotta love this error message when trying to bring up the Joomla installtion page. Drum roll... |
| 21:57 | <LouWestin> | error |
| 22:05 | <linbot> | New news from community: Sendmail configuration issues after upgrading Debian <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18469> |
| 22:23 | <kharlan11> | Hello friends. I'm going to be using linode backup for a client for the first time. Any tips? |
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| 22:27 | <gparent> | don't fuck up |
| 22:28 | <gparent> | more seriously: until you've tested your restores, you may as well say you don't have your data backed up. |
| 22:28 | <AlexMax> | also I would recommend - for any data you truly care about - an additional backup step in addition to Linode's backups. |
| 22:28 | <kharlan11> | the only way to test them is to spin up a clone of my current server, and restore the non-cloned one? |
| 22:29 | <AlexMax> | something like backblaze b2 and rclone |
| 22:29 | <kharlan11> | lol, then I might as well just revert to my ghetto way of backing up |
| 22:29 | <gparent> | I mean, you'd want to make sure to test that too. |
| 22:29 | <gparent> | What's the point of having backups you don't test? |
| 22:29 | <gparent> | Of course you'd want to do a test recovery. |
| 22:29 | <AlexMax> | There's nothing wrong with Linode backups per se, but it's the same company hosting your server and your backups. |
| 22:30 | <kharlan11> | so the only way to gain access to old files is to spin up the restore somewhere? If I delete a 2 day old file for example.. |
| 22:30 | <AlexMax> | If a meteor fell and took out a datacenter, you'd probably wish you had an offsite backup |
| 22:31 | <AlexMax> | also I think that if you delete the server you delete its backups too, am I right? |
| 22:31 | <kharlan11> | they store the backups on the same site as your server? |
| 22:31 | <gparent> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/linode-backup-service/#restore-from-a-backup |
| 22:31 | <gparent> | this is how you would do it |
| 22:31 | <rgerke> | Yes, if you delete your Linode the backups are deleted with it. |
| 22:31 | <AlexMax> | Backups are stored on a separate system in the same datacenter |
| 22:32 | <AlexMax> | so if the system goes down, you're okay, but if you're careless and delete your server you're toast, and if something catastrophic happens to the datacenter, you're toast |
| 22:32 | <AlexMax> | the former is much more likely than the latter, of course |
| 22:32 | <kharlan11> | does spinning up a backup cost money? |
| 22:32 | <kharlan11> | Like if I only need 1 hour to recover some files or sumthin' |
| 22:32 | <kharlan11> | I'm charged for the 1 hour? |
| 22:33 | <rgerke> | Yes. Linodes are now charged hourly. So, if you spin up a Linode to test a backup on you'll only be charged for the amount of time you keep that new Linode on the system. |
| 22:34 | <kharlan11> | So the backup is more like a 'if your server fails and you need something to fall back to' type backup? |
| 22:34 | <gparent> | What other kind of backups are there? |
| 22:35 | <kharlan11> | hmm I once worked with a client who had an azure server, and they let you restore the filesystem to a seperate drive on the production server. |
| 22:35 | <kharlan11> | and it only lasted 12 hrs ~ |
| 22:35 | <gparent> | That still falls into 'if your server fails and you need something to fall back to' type backup |
| 22:35 | <rgerke> | Linode's backups give you four slots. A daily backup, one from the current week, one from the prior week and a manual snapshot you can take whenever you want. |
| 22:35 | <gparent> | Yeah, you use them how you want. |
| 22:36 | <kharlan11> | err maybe 24 hrs? same difference, but it also allowed you to restore that backup rather than mount it on the production server. |
| 22:36 | <kharlan11> | hmm it's just weird that I'd be charged to access a backup I'm already paying for. |
| 22:36 | <kharlan11> | but I understand. |
| 22:36 | <gparent> | You're not charged for accessing it |
| 22:36 | <gparent> | You're charged for creating a whole new Linode |
| 22:36 | <gparent> | If you restored on your current Linode, there wouldn't be any issues or any charge. |
| 22:37 | <rgerke> | Correct. No additional charges for restoring it to your current Linode. |
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| 22:37 | <kharlan11> | sorry, I guess I meant access it on a individual file level basis. |
| 22:37 | <gparent> | Sure, you can do that on your existing linode. |
| 22:37 | <gparent> | No charge. |
| 22:38 | <gparent> | https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/disk-images/linode-backup-service/#restore-to-an-existing-linode |
| 22:39 | <kharlan11> | OH. This is exactly what I want. Sorry I misunderstood. |
| 22:39 | <kharlan11> | So I can mount the backup to a folder and access it as long as my exisiting linode has the appropriate unallocated space? |
| 22:39 | <gparent> | looks like it yes. |
| 22:40 | <rgerke> | Yes |
| 22:40 | <gparent> | i size my Vms under their full size to amke these things happen |
| 22:40 | <gparent> | gives me extra room if I need a new volume, etc. |
| 22:43 | <kharlan11> | So you'd recommend sizing my new linode to be max_size -( base os size + possible future usage ) ? |
| 22:44 | <gparent> | I go with 8 GB and increase if I need. |
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| 22:47 | <kharlan11> | I already know that I'm going to be moving over 7GB worth of files, so I guess I'll just allocate 12.5GB for now. |
| 22:47 | <kharlan11> | !point gparent |
| 22:47 | <linbot> | kharlan11: Point given to gparent. (10) |
| 22:47 | <kharlan11> | and thanks others :) |
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