| --- | Log | opened Tue Jul 30 00:00:30 2019 |
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| 00:05 | <ShirlyLow> | hello |
| 00:05 | <ShirlyLow> | @bbigger |
| 00:06 | <@rgerke> | Hi @shirlyLow bbigger isn't online right now - can I help out with something? |
| 00:07 | <ShirlyLow> | I did not use the VPN and the information is correct. Why cancel my account? |
| 00:08 | <@rgerke> | I'd have to take a deeper look into that. Would you be able to send your information to support@linode.com so we can look into it for you? We'd need the last 6 digits of the credit card you used to sign up as well as the e-mail address you used to locate the account and authenticate you to it |
| 00:10 | <ShirlyLow> | I have sent an email to support@linode.com, but I didn't get any reply. |
| 00:16 | <@rgerke> | I'll take a look and see if I can find it. Please give me a few minutes to look. |
| 00:17 | <ShirlyLow> | Okay rgerke |
| 00:17 | <ShirlyLow> | Thank You and my email address jalksfjskqwe2@outlook.com |
| 00:18 | <ShirlyLow> | you can search it |
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| 00:28 | <robweb> | Hello. I am learning webdev and Rust. Does Linode host Rust applications? |
| 00:29 | <@rgerke> | ShirlyLow: I'm taking a look right now. |
| 00:29 | <ShirlyLow> | Thank |
| 00:30 | <@rgerke> | robweb: I'll be right with you, I promise! |
| 00:30 | <robweb> | Thanks! |
| 00:30 | <Peng> | robweb: You can install any type of application (that runs on Linux) |
| 00:31 | <robweb> | Excellent! Thank you! |
| 00:31 | <Peng> | ...and doesn't require a video card... |
| 00:31 | <@rgerke> | robweb: Peng is absolutely correct. |
| 00:31 | <Peng> | ... and isn't solely compiled for MIPS CPUs ... :> |
| 00:31 | <Peng> | ... and ... |
| 00:32 | <robweb> | OK. So I'll just install Rust like I would locally? |
| 00:32 | <Peng> | Yup :) |
| 00:32 | <robweb> | Great. Thank you so much! |
| 00:32 | <robweb> | :quit |
| 00:33 | <robweb> | quit() |
| 00:33 | <robweb> | exit() |
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| 00:34 | <ShirlyLow> | exit() |
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| 00:37 | <@rgerke> | ShirlyLow: If you log in again, I was unable to find an e-mail from that address. Would you be able to send it again? |
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| 00:53 | <ShirlyLow> | @rgerke |
| 00:53 | <Peng> | rgerke previously said, "I was unable to find an e-mail from that address. Would you be able to send it again?" |
| 00:53 | <ShirlyLow> | Registration has been rejected again |
| 00:54 | <ShirlyLow> | Done |
| 00:55 | <ShirlyLow> | Please check email |
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| 01:01 | <@rgerke> | ShirleyLow: I believe I have located the e-mail. You should have a response shortly. |
| 01:02 | <ShirlyLow> | Okay ! |
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| 01:03 | <Rasid> | hi |
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| 01:57 | <chesty> | Peng, tensorflow requires a video card and it works fine on linode (it probably doesn't, it probably works with a CPU too, I was trying to be clever to score internet points) |
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| 02:07 | <silver_> | ? |
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| 02:11 | <wraeth> | ! |
| 02:12 | <Peng> | ‽ |
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| 02:32 | <midi> | Hello |
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| 04:31 | <Basit> | What is network in transfer speed |
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| 05:07 | <linbot> | New news from community: Deploy Persistent Volume Claims with the Linode Block Storage CSI Driver <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18522> |
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| 06:20 | <velbon81> | hello |
| 06:20 | <velbon81> | please i need the contact for sales team |
| 06:21 | <@rgerke> | velbon81: Hi! All of our contact information, including sales, canbe found through this link: https://www.linode.com/contact |
| 06:24 | <velbon81> | i need email address for Linode sale team |
| 06:25 | <@rgerke> | You can send an e-mail to support@linode.com and we'll make sure that it gets to the right people. |
| 06:27 | <velbon81> | noted |
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| 07:17 | <linbot> | New news from community: Site does not support CNAME ending in period <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18523> |
| 07:22 | <hawk> | Uhhh |
| 07:23 | <hawk> | Why did Linode "ask" that? |
| 07:24 | * | hawk is confused |
| 07:25 | <rsdehart> | you mean why did someone on the forum ask that? |
| 07:25 | <rsdehart> | I don't know. I'd suggest reading the thread to find out if you want to know |
| 07:26 | <hawk> | rsdehart: Maybe I don't understand how to read it. It says that the question was posted by the account Linode. But maybe "Linode" is some regular user? |
| 07:27 | <hawk> | (Seems like it might have been good to reserve that name) |
| 07:27 | <rsdehart> | I guess it's not a question |
| 07:27 | <rsdehart> | just a bit of information |
| 07:27 | <rsdehart> | with that said, I couldn't guess why it was posted |
| 07:28 | <rsdehart> | Nah, the user Linode would be Linode. I hadn't read the thread |
| 07:28 | <rsdehart> | sorry, I made an incorrect assumption about your question |
| 07:28 | <chesty> | hawk, when a customer who doesn't have a managed linode sends linode a question they forward ti the community question board |
| 07:29 | <chesty> | "sends linode a question that falls in the domain of needing to have a managed linode..." |
| 07:29 | <rsdehart> | thanks, chesty |
| 07:29 | <hawk> | Ok, so the Linode account is used to kind of proxy some questions that were sent elsewhere. |
| 07:29 | <rsdehart> | I didn't know this |
| 07:30 | <@rgerke> | Yes. I actually did that one. Sometimes if smeone opens a tiket and asks a question and I think the answer would benefit other users, I'll post it in our Community Site. |
| 07:31 | <@rgerke> | I swear I can spell 'ticket' and 'someone' |
| 07:31 | <hawk> | Regarding the question itself I was mostly confused about its claims about "search", but if it's a question from some customer I guess I shouldn't be. |
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| 07:33 | <@rgerke> | So, someone else 'asked' the question, we just made the question and answer public on our Community site (obviously sanitizing it first to edit out any customer-specific information) |
| 07:33 | <@rgerke> | So it looks like it came from 'Linode' because it was posted by us and not directly by the customer. |
| 07:34 | <rsdehart> | so it looks like this practice has only been in place for not quite a year and a half |
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| 09:08 | <linbot> | New news from community: Server storage shows full <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18524> |
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| 09:49 | <vinay> | hi |
| 09:50 | <vinay> | anyone from linode support |
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| 09:56 | <Woet> | rgerke: you might want to look into speedtest.tokyo.linode.com |
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| 09:57 | <Woet> | it's been offline for a bit |
| 10:00 | <@bbigger> | Thanks for pointing that out Woet -- we've decommissioned our Tokyo 1 data center, so only speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com is relevant for testingnow |
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| 10:16 | <Woet> | cheers bbigger |
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| 10:17 | <Woet> | bbigger: where is the 100 MB file? |
| 10:17 | <Woet> | http://speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com/100MB-tokyo.bin |
| 10:17 | <Woet> | ah, the file is renamed to tokyo2.bin too |
| 10:17 | <Woet> | mb |
| 10:17 | <Woet> | http://speedtest.tokyo2.linode.com/100MB-tokyo2.bin workss |
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| 10:27 | <@jcardillo> | i've been holding on to my cloudcloud.cloud domain for awhile. fate? |
| 10:28 | <linbot> | New news from community: Debian 7 - Longview Installation - Apache/mysql <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18525> |
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| 10:47 | <gparent> | I guess that didn't catch on like www did, eh? |
| 10:47 | <gparent> | cloudcloudcloud.example.net |
| 10:47 | <@bbigger> | cloudcloudcloud.cloudcloud.cloud |
| 10:48 | <gparent> | and make it a final fantasy website like the TLD intended |
| 10:48 | <@bbigger> | lol |
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| 11:06 | <gavin> | Hello, I am wondering where can I see the pricing for the manger service and cPanel? |
| 11:06 | <millisa> | !cpanel |
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| 11:06 | <linbot> | Install cPanel on CentOS: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/cpanel-on-centos Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: https://www.linode.com/managed Or try a free panel like Webmin: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/webmin-control-panel Or just use the command line: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-beginners-guide/ |
| 11:07 | <millisa> | the linode manager doesn't have a cost, but it's mostly for managing with vps's you have up, your dns, and other services you get from linode (not a manager like cpanel) |
| 11:08 | <gavin> | What's the price for being Linode Managed customers? |
| 11:08 | <millisa> | It's down near the bottom on that page about it. $100/linode/month on the account |
| 11:09 | <millisa> | Unless you are going for a really big linode, you can usually beat that price by bringing your own cpanel license if cpanel is the only thing you care about |
| 11:09 | <gavin> | Thank you Millisa! |
| 11:09 | <millisa> | I've had pretty good luck using buycpanel.com (there's usually coupon codes you can find to get the price even lower) |
| 11:10 | <millisa> | Though I guess those prices could change with how cpanel's talking about changing their licensing. |
| 11:12 | <gavin> | I saw that their pricing seems much lower than the pricing I found on cPanel website |
| 11:12 | <millisa> | They are. They are legitimate; have used them for years. |
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| 11:13 | <millisa> | This was the pricing change I was talking about - https://blog.cpanel.com/update-to-account-based-pricing/ I'm still not sure how that's going to impact the stuff partners like buycpanel will be able to sell things for or if it will change things at all |
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| 12:23 | <stryttu> | hi |
| 12:24 | <millisa> | greetings |
| 12:24 | <stryttu> | is available vps on tokyo, JP ? |
| 12:24 | <millisa> | There is a datacenter there, yes. https://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 12:24 | <grawity> | Linode has a Tokyo datacenter, yes |
| 12:25 | <stryttu> | is available vps tokyo in Standard Plans Nanode 1GB 5$/mo?? |
| 12:26 | <millisa> | Assuming you aren't on the old style billing, yes |
| 12:27 | <@mcintosh> | there is only one style of billing |
| 12:27 | <millisa> | Zuul? |
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| 12:27 | <millisa> | (Everyone's switched at this point?) |
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| 12:28 | <@mcintosh> | indeed, i personally ended the life of prepaid billing :D |
| 12:28 | <millisa> | Woo! |
| 12:28 | <@mcintosh> | well, i had some help |
| 12:29 | <@mcintosh> | but... i ain't no snitch ;p |
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| 14:19 | <Zr40> | so we have you to {thank,blame}! |
| 14:22 | <MailUser> | Is there someone of support team here ? |
| 14:24 | <DrJ> | !ask |
| 14:24 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/ |
| 14:29 | <MailUser> | Ok, I want help because, i has been reciving phishing mail from you server IP 60.250.111.202. Bank account phishing |
| 14:30 | <DrJ> | MailUser: you should probably submit a complaint email to abuse@linode.com |
| 14:30 | <Zr40> | that doesn't look like a Linode IP |
| 14:31 | <DrJ> | yea, that's not linode |
| 14:31 | <MailUser> | Sorry I have a mistake this is the correct one : 45.33.13.110 |
| 14:32 | <Zr40> | yeah, that is a Linode IP |
| 14:32 | <DrJ> | yea, that one is linode... abuse@linode.com is your best bet |
| 14:32 | <Zr40> | !abuse |
| 14:32 | <linbot> | Linode's abuse contact is abuse@linode.com , as shown in the abuse contact info for the IP address in question. https://www.iana.org/help/abuse-answers shows how to look this up yourself. |
| 14:33 | <MailUser> | yes i did using iana link |
| 14:33 | <dzho> | !to MailUser ops |
| 14:33 | <linbot> | MailUser: Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/contact |
| 14:33 | <Zr40> | hm, was hoping for a different linbot response |
| 14:33 | <Zr40> | meant to say, be sure to include all pertinent information |
| 14:34 | <MailUser> | but I very concernt about because that phishing is too sofisticated |
| 14:34 | <dzho> | welcome to the Internet, alas |
| 14:34 | <dzho> | I've been seeing some very sophisticated stuff for a while now hitting various organizations. |
| 14:35 | <Zr40> | yeah, email spam/scam/phishing/etc is almost as old as the internet itself |
| 14:35 | <dzho> | the services provided by a company like linode are sophisticated, but not in a way that is going to help with that, I don't think. |
| 14:35 | <dzho> | Zr40: it's not just that it's spam. The targetting can be very specific. I guess they call that "spearphishing" |
| 14:35 | * | dzho has errands to run and lunch to fetch |
| 14:36 | <dzho> | good luck MailUser |
| 14:36 | <MailUser> | and I think this is a focus attack for a specific bank, and this is not the firts time that I recive this kind of phishing |
| 14:37 | <@pwoods> | MailUser: as others have suggested, could you please send along all information you have about this to abuse@linode.com? |
| 14:38 | <@pwoods> | MailUser: that inbox is maintained by a person 24/7. Sending in email headers would allow us to pass along to our customer |
| 14:39 | <@pwoods> | MailUser: I'd also suggest not clicking any links or submitting any information into forms. |
| 14:39 | <MailUser> | I did now, and I attached the phishing mail into the mail |
| 14:41 | <MailUser> | Ok, guys I leave you here, becuase I need to send another report with more phishing to another server provider. Thank you for your help. |
| 14:41 | <@pwoods> | MailUser: thanks, I see the email came in. The person checking that inbox will be in touch shortly. |
| 14:41 | <MailUser> | have a nice day ! |
| 14:41 | <@pwoods> | MailUser: o/ |
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| 16:43 | <arno> | Hi. My server stopped being accessible (192.81.128.95 in Fremont). Did something happen, or is it just my server? |
| 16:44 | <millisa> | mine seems up. you are the first in here to mention something up in fremont |
| 16:44 | <millisa> | can't ping your IP from one of my systems in fremont |
| 16:45 | <nate> | Mine seems fine |
| 16:46 | <arno> | It seems totally down. I can't access it via the console anymore |
| 16:46 | <nate> | log in to your actual linode account and see what the status from there is |
| 16:46 | <nate> | Usually the first stop you should make |
| 16:50 | <arno> | My status was "running". But I couldn't access it via the console. I pressed reboot the server. Now, it is stuck at "rebooting 1%" |
| 16:50 | <millisa> | !ticket |
| 16:50 | <linbot> | Sounds like ticket time! Your problem will probably be solved much faster by submitting a support ticket, rather than hoping to catch an employee's attention here. |
| 16:51 | <arno> | thanks |
| 16:51 | <millisa> | I usually go with ticket then call |
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| 19:50 | <linbot> | New news from community: Angular/Nodejs/Database <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18528> || Angular/Nodejs/Database <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18527> || Angular/Nodejs/Database <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18526> |
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| 20:39 | <verx> | Trying to do apt-update on a Debian Linode that hasn’t been updated in forever and everything is not found... |
| 20:40 | <verx> | Can someone help me on how to update things so that I can upgrade? |
| 20:41 | <gparent> | what version is it |
| 20:41 | <verx> | How do I check? |
| 20:41 | <gparent> | lsb_release -a |
| 20:41 | <verx> | Wheezy |
| 20:41 | <verx> | 7.6 |
| 20:43 | <gparent> | it might be the repos have changed names. 8.x (the next one) is still supported |
| 20:44 | <chesty> | yeah, wheezy is now in archive.debian.org |
| 20:44 | <verx> | FTP.us.debian.org urls |
| 20:45 | <verx> | So how do I change it around? |
| 20:45 | <gparent> | you'd change the entries to the hostname chesty gave you |
| 20:46 | <chesty> | At this stage it would be quicker to reinstall with the current debian, but you could change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the archive.debian.org, the do an update and upgrade, then follow the instructions to do a dist-upgrade |
| 20:46 | <gparent> | https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 20:47 | <verx> | Ok, thanks |
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| 21:08 | <Cromulent> | this is slightly off-topic but I need a sensible IRC channel to ask in - I'm thinking of changing the Linux distro I use for development - I normally use Ubuntu but was wondering if anyone had any other suggestions? |
| 21:08 | <Cromulent> | preferably one which is easy to mirror on a server |
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| 21:08 | <Cromulent> | I was looking at Arch Linux |
| 21:14 | <kenyon> | any linux distro can be used for development |
| 21:15 | <Cromulent> | sure but which one is stable enough to be used on the client development machine as well as the server? |
| 21:15 | <Cromulent> | I thought about Fedora |
| 21:16 | <Cromulent> | CentOS is off the table for having old packages |
| 21:18 | <kenyon> | Debian and RHEL |
| 21:20 | <Cromulent> | both suffer from the same problem |
| 21:20 | <Cromulent> | what about OpenSUSE Tumbleweed? |
| 21:20 | <kenyon> | what are these supposed "old packages" |
| 21:21 | <Cromulent> | python and postgresql mainly |
| 21:21 | <chesty> | fedora has an interesting project, not sure how stable it is, I think it has the word silver in it. completely different concept to traditional packages |
| 21:22 | <kenyon> | if you need the very latest of those packages, that's not "stable" |
| 21:22 | <chesty> | for me in these days of snap, flatpack and docker, my desktop os isn't that important. |
| 21:22 | <Cromulent> | see I |
| 21:23 | <Cromulent> | I'd love to move to a docker workload but I don't know how |
| 21:23 | <kenyon> | but there are good ways to get newer packages, like postgres has their own repos. with python you should use pipenv or similar anyway, and e.g. with RHEL/CentOS there is https://ius.io/ |
| 21:23 | <Cromulent> | I use flask for backend development and react for front end development and I want to use Gitlab for CI/CD |
| 21:24 | <kenyon> | but both RHEL and Debian just released new versions, so they should be pretty new |
| 21:24 | <chesty> | open a tutorial. I use docker for python, I usually use ubuntu 18.04 as a base and install the required python libraries with pip |
| 21:24 | <Cromulent> | I'll check it out then |
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| 21:32 | <chesty> | some people are anti docker for a number of reasons, one being it currently requires a daemon running as root. but the concept of containers have been around since the beginning of unix and a daemon running as root isn't required for them, it's just how docker chose to implement theirs. there is a new project that runs docker containers without |
| 21:32 | <chesty> | needing the root run daemon. |
| 21:33 | <Cromulent> | I think I might try Fedora |
| 21:34 | <chesty> | checkout https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ |
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| 21:36 | <chesty> | read the first paragraph of https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/ |
| 21:39 | <Cromulent> | fedora seems like the winner then although I'm still curious about SUSE |
| 21:39 | <kenyon> | Fedora is pretty much on the opposite end of the stability spectrum from RHEL/CentOS/Debian stable |
| 21:39 | <Cromulent> | especially as they offer commercial support |
| 21:42 | <kharlan11> | debian 9/10 is my goto Cromulent |
| 21:43 | <kharlan11> | well currently *just* debian 9 but I have a debian 10 system running some low-priority stuff in production |
| 21:43 | <Cromulent> | I've always been a bit turned off by Debian |
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| 21:43 | <gparent> | wow |
| 21:43 | <gparent> | you hear that? that's the sound of many servers and distros crying |
| 21:44 | <Cromulent> | :( |
| 21:44 | <gparent> | I mean I don't hear it either but that's not my point here |
| 21:44 | <kharlan11> | you should just try them all and see what you're comfortable with. |
| 21:44 | <Cromulent> | I'll just try a few out - Fedora, OpenSUSE Leap and probably Debian |
| 21:45 | <Cromulent> | I run them all in VMWare Workstation Pro 15 so I can play around |
| 21:45 | <gparent> | seems like for python you could just pick whatever you want |
| 21:45 | <gparent> | use a virtualenv to dev |
| 21:46 | <kharlan11> | yep doesn't matter - the next release will break your script anyways ; |
| 21:46 | <gparent> | wow rude |
| 21:46 | <kharlan11> | heh oh wait. I'm thinking of node. |
| 21:46 | <gparent> | that's why you specify requirements you forget to update in requirements.txt |
| 21:48 | <Cromulent> | well at least fedora is easy to run at 200% display scalinb |
| 21:48 | <Cromulent> | scling |
| 21:48 | <Cromulent> | scaling |
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| 21:49 | <kharlan11> | note: will only run with python v2.7.3.4 alpha 3 |
| 21:49 | <verx> | I've got a problem that after a disc-upgrade, apache won't start |
| 21:49 | <verx> | looks like it is an issue with apache config |
| 21:49 | <kharlan11> | verx: what does your error log say? |
| 21:49 | <verx> | is anyone here an expert that can help me look at it? |
| 21:50 | <verx> | log just says sigterm |
| 21:50 | <verx> | but I did the configtest and it is reporting errors in the config file, which was perfectly fine before the upgrade |
| 21:51 | <verx> | apache2: Syntax error on line 208 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
| 21:51 | <gparent> | So did you investigate that |
| 21:51 | <verx> | I did, and there is no https.conf |
| 21:51 | <verx> | but like I said, apache ran fine before the upgrade |
| 21:51 | <gparent> | yes but you upgraded it. |
| 21:51 | <gparent> | so you can either restore from backup prior to your upgrade, and not upgrade it. It will be fine again. |
| 21:52 | <verx> | so I'm not certain at this moment if the new config is referencing the file and the file got deleted by the upgrade |
| 21:52 | <verx> | or something else |
| 21:52 | <gparent> | Do you see any backup files next to it |
| 21:52 | <verx> | no, that is what I was expecting |
| 21:52 | <verx> | but I don't know where the upgrade would put such files |
| 21:52 | <gparent> | it might not put anything at all. assuming you meant dist-upgrade? |
| 21:53 | <verx> | yes, dist-upgrade |
| 21:53 | <kharlan11> | why not just try creating an empty httpd.conf? |
| 21:53 | <kharlan11> | touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 21:54 | <verx> | I had commented the line out earlier |
| 21:54 | <gparent> | I haven't touched apache in a very long time but it's likely they broke down the file into multiples |
| 21:54 | <verx> | then it complains of this: |
| 21:54 | <verx> | Invalid command 'LockFile', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 21:54 | <kharlan11> | gparent: httpd.conf is usually empty anyways |
| 21:55 | <gparent> | seems to be defined in prefork/worker. do you have that installed |
| 21:55 | <verx> | how do I check that, sorry |
| 21:56 | <gparent> | dpkg -l | grep apache # put that output into a pastebin |
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| 21:57 | <verx> | https://pastebin.com/tVX2JLrP |
| 21:58 | <gparent> | hm, so you do |
| 21:58 | <kharlan11> | didn't apache2 replace LockFile with Mutex? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18282694/error-after-updating-apache-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail |
| 21:58 | <gparent> | not sure, my apachefu is failing here. I guess its deprecated |
| 21:58 | <gparent> | yeah id check there next |
| 21:58 | <gparent> | great timing to convert to nginx! |
| 21:58 | <gparent> | <_< |
| 21:58 | <kharlan11> | or lighttpd x-x |
| 21:58 | <verx> | thanks |
| 21:59 | <gparent> | while im not kidding about that last one, of course any webserver is fine as long as the sysadmin knows how to configure it. |
| 21:59 | <gparent> | even IIS *cries* |
| 22:00 | <kharlan11> | yes if you have loot chests full of memory, apache is perfect. :) |
| 22:01 | <verx> | that change let me start the web server, but instead of serving pages, I'm getting 500 internal server error now |
| 22:01 | <kharlan11> | what does your log say? |
| 22:01 | <verx> | so to be clear, THANK YOU for the help so far |
| 22:01 | <verx> | I don't want to sound ungrateful here |
| 22:01 | <verx> | it just isn't completely working yet is all. :) |
| 22:02 | <verx> | [Tue Jul 30 18:59:38.305294 2019] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 2018] AH00163: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) PHP/5.6.40-0+deb8u4 configured -- resuming normal operations [Tue Jul 30 18:59:38.305326 2019] [core:notice] [pid 2018] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' |
| 22:02 | <kharlan11> | pastebin please, and that's all it says? |
| 22:02 | <verx> | that is it |
| 22:02 | <verx> | for the new restart |
| 22:03 | <kharlan11> | are you looking in httpd/error.log or apache2/error.log? |
| 22:03 | <verx> | apache2 |
| 22:04 | <Cromulent> | welp OpenSUSE Leap has won the contest |
| 22:05 | <kharlan11> | verx: are you using php? |
| 22:05 | <verx> | yes |
| 22:06 | <kharlan11> | oh. you're using php5.6? Check your php error logs. Does it say anything important in there? |
| 22:07 | <verx> | I suspect the issue is with the mapping of virtual domains |
| 22:08 | <verx> | https://pastebin.com/FWEnyCmu |
| 22:09 | <verx> | that's the only php error I see and sadly, it was present before my dist-upgrade |
| 22:09 | <verx> | so again, I'm pretty sure the issue is with virtual domains |
| 22:10 | <gparent> | what makes you think that |
| 22:10 | <kharlan11> | I've seen php errors throw 500 internal errors. |
| 22:10 | <gparent> | It feels like fatal errors are things you should fix. |
| 22:11 | <kharlan11> | try creating a html file and accessing example.com/example.html. |
| 22:11 | <verx> | I just made a raw html |
| 22:11 | <verx> | it gives same error |
| 22:11 | <gparent> | is it trying to read that file? does your error log say anything? |
| 22:11 | <LouWestin> | Isn’t PHP 5.6 deprecated? |
| 22:12 | <gparent> | well, presumably they'll upgrade to stretch, then buster. |
| 22:12 | <gparent> | This is the jessie part of the Pilgrimage. |
| 22:12 | <kharlan11> | yes and it's slow as bells but \o/ |
| 22:12 | <verx> | yeah, I'm on Jessie right now |
| 22:12 | <chesty> | like I said before, it will be a lot quicker to do a fresh install of the latest debian and then install your php website from scratch |
| 22:12 | <verx> | I've got a ton more than websites on here |
| 22:13 | <kharlan11> | verx: does your access.log show anything significant? |
| 22:13 | <chesty> | ok, but you'll have similar problems with the configs of everything |
| 22:13 | <verx> | don't really want to go that route to be honest |
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| 22:13 | <verx> | let me check kharlan11 |
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| 22:14 | <verx> | nothing gets written to access.log when I try to pull up a virtual domain |
| 22:15 | <kharlan11> | have you tried restarting the apache service? |
| 22:15 | <kharlan11> | make sure there isn't some zombie running in the background as well with ps -A | grep apache |
| 22:16 | <LouWestin> | Debian Jessie went out of life a year ago |
| 22:16 | <gparent> | lies and slanderous statements |
| 22:16 | <gparent> | it did, but it has long term support. and anyway, the idea is probably to upgrade further, or at least I'd hope. |
| 22:17 | <LouWestin> | Well you have LTS yes. |
| 22:17 | <kharlan11> | verx: You can try reading the solutions from this topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4731364/internal-error-500-apache-but-nothing-in-the-logs#16530990 |
| 22:18 | <verx> | I'll read that kharlan11, but just to address the earlier request, I restarted apache2 to no avail, same error |
| 22:18 | <LouWestin> | But depending on what’s running it could that it’s not supported anymore |
| 22:20 | <kharlan11> | verx: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
| 22:21 | <kharlan11> | ^ ^ That's if you're upgrading from apache 2.2 to 2.4 on jesse. |
| 22:22 | <kharlan11> | https://linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/updating-virtual-host-settings-from-apache-2-2-to-apache-2-4/ |
| 22:23 | <kharlan11> | haha linode has a guide on it too. |
| 22:23 | <kharlan11> | !point linode |
| 22:23 | <linbot> | kharlan11: Point given to linode. (8) |
| 22:25 | <verx> | "Virtual host configuration files in the sites-available directory must now use the .conf extension" |
| 22:26 | <verx> | not sure what they mean here, the FILENAME extension? |
| 22:26 | <verx> | or something else? |
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| 22:26 | <kharlan11> | verx: you should read the linode webpage I linked. |
| 22:26 | <kharlan11> | did you upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4? |
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| 22:26 | <verx> | kharlan11: That's where I pasted it from. :) |
| 22:27 | <kharlan11> | oh. yeah just rename the files to have the .conf extension |
| 22:27 | <kharlan11> | so your config file for example.com would be example.com.conf |
| 22:37 | <@rgerke> | I was gonna chime in here, but I didn't want to disrupt the flow that you all had going. Thanks for helping verx out. |
| 22:38 | <verx> | I have one of my sites responding now |
| 22:38 | <kharlan11> | woo |
| 22:38 | <verx> | Could someone tell me if these were needed for security in an .htaccess file? |
| 22:38 | <verx> | php_flag allow_url_fopen on php_flag register_globals off |
| 22:39 | <verx> | I confess I'm not entirely clear on what they provide, but I was getting an error saying it isn't allowed in the htaccess file |
| 22:40 | <kharlan11> | verx: http://phpsec.org/projects/phpsecinfo/tests/allow_url_fopen.html |
| 22:40 | <kharlan11> | depends if you need it or not. |
| 22:40 | <gparent> | rgerke: I see how it is |
| 22:40 | <nate> | verx: register_globals is for really old features that otherwise opened dramatic vulns. allow_url_fopen allows certain file commands to do remote url loading |
| 22:40 | <kharlan11> | rgerke: starbucks giftcards for everyone ;;;)? |
| 22:40 | <nate> | ie; file_get_contents('https://foobar.com/'); |
| 22:40 | <gparent> | it used to be we didn't want to interrupt the ops! now they let us work on their behalf |
| 22:40 | <verx> | yeah |
| 22:41 | <gparent> | :) |
| 22:41 | <verx> | I think for now I'm just going to disable it |
| 22:41 | <verx> | thanks |
| 22:41 | <nate> | (by default it's off, it's also a more inefficient way to do URL fetching instead of using cURL properly) |
| 22:41 | <kharlan11> | the php goddess has awoken |
| 22:44 | <verx> | ok |
| 22:44 | <verx> | I got all the sites working now |
| 22:44 | <verx> | THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU |
| 22:45 | <verx> | so... how do I upgrade further |
| 22:45 | <verx> | I'm kind of scared to keep going |
| 22:45 | <verx> | but I'd rather get this diet to be more current |
| 22:45 | <verx> | not diet - dist |
| 22:46 | <nate> | That's a somewhat vague question, what exactly are you upgrading? Framework? PHP itself? Something else? |
| 22:46 | <nate> | kharlan11: Who exactly is that supposed to be? |
| 22:46 | <verx> | distribution |
| 22:46 | <verx> | I'm on Jessie, which I've just been told hit end of life a year ago |
| 22:49 | <gparent> | well, you took a backup before you started right? |
| 22:49 | <gparent> | otherwise, why the hell are you upgrading? |
| 22:49 | <gparent> | you have more important things to do. |
| 22:50 | <gparent> | if you do have backups, there's no reason to be scared. |
| 22:50 | <gparent> | I'd be mored scared of running outdated debian (Although jessie still mostly gets security updates) |
| 22:50 | <verx> | Linode doesn't have a free backup service |
| 22:50 | <verx> | so no, I don't have a great backup of the entire installation |
| 22:50 | <verx> | what I do have is a backup of all the truly critical content |
| 22:51 | <verx> | I just would VERY MUCH prefer not to have so start from scratch |
| 22:51 | <verx> | hopefully that makes sense |
| 22:56 | <kharlan11> | nate: you didn't even need to look up what those features were :P. It's impressive. |
| 22:57 | <kharlan11> | verx: the monthly cost for the backup service isn't that much. If you want to be safe, just eat the extra cost for this month. |
| 22:57 | <kharlan11> | You could always manually image your linode to an external server. |
| 23:00 | <@rgerke> | We don't have a free backup service, but we charge hourly for it so you can use it for a brief amountof time and be charged minimally. |
| 23:01 | <@rgerke> | You can also back up locally. Use rsync or something like that. |
| 23:02 | <@rgerke> | Or use our images - they're not meant as backups but could work for you in this situation. |
| 23:04 | <nate> | kharlan11: Quite a many of us in here are very familiar with PHP. I think I'm more curious where you've ever encountered the name nate in a female usage lol |
| 23:18 | <verx> | Going to Buster, I got this: |
| 23:18 | <verx> | [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device /dev/sdc. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for File System Check on /dev/sdc. |
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| 23:21 | <verx> | oddly, I could mount it manually |
| 23:21 | <verx> | not sure why it wouldn't mount from fstab |
| 23:23 | <verx> | ok, looks like it has a 1 minute 30 second timeout |
| 23:23 | <verx> | it is saying "a start job is running for /dev/sdc", but it doesn't seem to complete within the allotted time |
| 23:24 | <verx> | also it is saying dependency failed for swap |
| 23:29 | <verx> | Could someone help me out on how to update my kernel to what Buster would want? |
| 23:31 | <verx> | Going to try following this: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/how-to-change-your-linodes-kernel/ |
| 23:31 | <@rgerke> | verx: My recommendation is to open a support ticket with us. That way we culd discuss this with more account-specific and server-specific information. |
| 23:32 | <@rgerke> | And I was also gonna drop that guide's link in here, but you beat me to it. |
| 23:37 | <verx> | rgerke, I was hoping not to have to bother you guys |
| 23:38 | <@rgerke> | verx: It's not a bother. There are several of us on tonight, and we love doing this stuff. |
| 23:42 | <@mcintosh> | !point rgerke |
| 23:42 | <linbot> | mcintosh: Point given to rgerke. (2) |
| 23:44 | <verx> | I just switched to the new dashboard and I'm not seeing where to go right now to even MAKE a ticket. Could you tell me where to go to do that? |
| 23:45 | <verx> | nevermind |
| 23:45 | <verx> | found it |
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| 23:45 | <@rgerke> | verx: Okay, great! |
| 23:46 | <verx> | Just opened ticket 12362630 |
| 23:46 | <@rgerke> | verx: I'll go look for it now. |
| 23:47 | <verx> | thank you very very much |
| 23:48 | <@rgerke> | Give me a bit to look into it, and I'll respond in the ticket. |
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| 23:49 | <verx> | sure thing |
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