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| 03:43 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I use linode-cli to delete a domain "A" record? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18669> |
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| 04:15 | <frodecc> | Hi guys. I have a question aboud Linode Managed. Could somebody chat with me for a few minutes? |
| 04:17 | <frodecc> | My question is basically: I want to have an architecture with disposable "worker nodes". How does this relate to the Linode Managed hosting pricing scheme? |
| 04:17 | <Cromulent> | I've completely changed my plans - I was originally going to use Ethereum but now I'm going to use NEM instead - it looks pretty promising |
| 04:17 | <frodecc> | Will I have to pay $100 per month per node, even if the worker node is only running for 5 minutes or 10 |
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| 04:20 | <suwoo> | hi |
| 04:20 | <Cromulent> | hi |
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| 04:21 | <frodecc> | cheery guy |
| 04:21 | <frodecc> | :) |
| 04:36 | <chesty> | frodecc, i believe you pay by the hour. if you run it for 1.2 hours, you pay for 2 hours. also if you run it for most of the month it's capped at the monthly price |
| 04:38 | <frodecc> | chesty: That sounds good. Need it confirmed before I commit :) |
| 04:38 | <frodecc> | thanks |
| 04:43 | <chesty> | np, here's the pricing https://www.linode.com/pricing there's a monthly price and an hourly price |
| 04:44 | <frodecc> | chesty: The price for managed hosting is flat at $100 per linode in your account; I can't find an hourly price for that service. |
| 04:45 | <Cromulent> | frodecc: open a ticket and I'm sure they'll confirm |
| 04:45 | <chesty> | no idea sorry, but hang around and ops will answer you (or do what Cromulent said) |
| 04:46 | <chesty> | btw, stopping the node doesn't stop billing, you have to destroy it to stop billing |
| 04:47 | <frodecc> | chesty: The plan is to have disposable nodes. I boot up a node when I need, and dispose it when I don't need. |
| 04:47 | <frodecc> | chesty: There will be a few persistent nodes, for which I need management services. But "worker" nodes should auto-delete whenever they shut down. |
| 04:48 | <chesty> | that's fine, they round up to the hour for the worker nodes, the persistent nodes will be charged on the monthly rate |
| 04:49 | <@pwoods> | frodecc: I'm looking into this to get confirmation for you right now |
| 04:49 | <@pwoods> | I *think* I know the answer, but looking through our documentation to confirm |
| 04:49 | <frodecc> | chesty: Yes, I'm aware - but I'm mostly worried about the management price for disposable nodes that exists anywhere between 1 and 20 hours. |
| 04:49 | <frodecc> | pwoods: Thank you |
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| 05:06 | <@pwoods> | frodecc: it's metered at $0.15/hr/per Linode, capped at $100/month/per Linode: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-support/billing-and-payments/#additional-linode-services |
| 05:08 | <frodecc> | pwoods: Thank you. That sounds perfect |
| 05:10 | <frodecc> | pwoods: Can Linode Managed Services also handle backups of block storage? |
| 05:18 | <@pwoods> | frodecc: currently, our Backups Service only covers Linodes, not Block Storage volumes. |
| 05:19 | <frodecc> | pwoods: I'm assuming Professional Services can setup bacula or something - so that backups are performed to some cloud object storage? |
| 05:20 | <@pwoods> | frodecc: You would need to speak to them about that. You can get a quote from them by filling out the form on our website: https://www.linode.com/professional-services |
| 05:21 | <@pwoods> | As a Managed Services customer, you'd get a 20% discount on Professional Services |
| 05:27 | <frodecc> | pwoods: I submitted that form. thanks for your answers so far :) |
| 05:34 | <@pwoods> | frodecc: you're very welcome! |
| 05:44 | <Cromulent> | I'm a bit confused - I have a static IP address from my ISP and a virtual machine running in Bridged mode - how do I allow outside connections to connect directly to a service running on the virtual machine? |
| 05:45 | <Cromulent> | I've opened up the firewall on the virtual machine to allow the port |
| 05:45 | <grawity> | what device is the static IP assigned to? your host? your VM? your LAN router? |
| 05:46 | <Cromulent> | router I assume |
| 05:46 | <grawity> | port forwarding, then |
| 05:46 | <Cromulent> | ah OK - thanks |
| 05:46 | <grawity> | since the VM is "bridged" it'll be exactly like forwarding it to your host PC, just using the VM's internal IP address |
| 05:47 | <Cromulent> | for some strange reason I've always struggled to login to my routers admin panel for some reason |
| 05:47 | <Cromulent> | right thanks - that makes it nice and simple |
| 05:48 | <Cromulent> | hmm I'm going to have to factory reset my router |
| 05:53 | <Guest6207> | exit |
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| 06:04 | <linbot> | New news from community: Unable to login to linode server via weblish console <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18670> |
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| 06:29 | <rahul> | hi |
| 06:29 | <rahul> | is any one there? |
| 06:32 | <@jcardillo> | yes, there are man |
| 06:32 | <@jcardillo> | *many |
| 06:34 | <rahul> | ok |
| 06:34 | <rahul> | i would like to know few things here |
| 06:35 | <rahul> | can i host database of linode server? |
| 06:35 | <rahul> | *On |
| 06:35 | <Peng> | Yes |
| 06:36 | <rahul> | is there any limit to server call per day or per instance? |
| 06:36 | <Peng> | What's a call? |
| 06:36 | <rahul> | json tocken calls from hosted website |
| 06:37 | <rahul> | to database |
| 06:37 | <rahul> | like user name, user profile, stats |
| 06:37 | <rahul> | my sql php call |
| 06:38 | <grawity> | the database server is managed by you, not by linode |
| 06:38 | <rahul> | ok |
| 06:38 | <grawity> | so the only limits occur if your server literally runs out of CPU or RAM |
| 06:38 | <grawity> | there are no artificial limits besides that |
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| 06:54 | <Cromulent> | grawity: do I need to open the port in the Windows 10 Pro firewall as well? |
| 06:55 | <grawity> | are you talking about the VM or the host? |
| 06:55 | <Cromulent> | host |
| 06:55 | <grawity> | can't see why that would be needed in bridged mode... |
| 06:56 | <Cromulent> | cool - just checking - thanks |
| 06:56 | <Cromulent> | first time I've used my static IP address to do something useful |
| 06:59 | <Cromulent> | it would be better to run it on a Linode though |
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| 07:10 | <Cromulent> | does anyone know how to install oracle java 8 on ubuntu 18.04? The top Google results don't work anymore |
| 07:10 | <Cromulent> | I can |
| 07:10 | <Cromulent> | I can't use OpenJDK |
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| 07:18 | <Kruthaup> | Hello. We have people using Linode servers to DDOS our systems. Where to report? |
| 07:18 | <Cromulent> | abuse@linode.com |
| 07:18 | <Kruthaup> | Thank you! |
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| 07:25 | <Cromulent> | hmm until I can work out how to install oracle java 8 JRE on Ubuntu 18.04 I'm stuck |
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| 07:53 | <chesty> | did you look on java.com? |
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| 07:54 | <Cromulent> | yeah figured it out now |
| 07:55 | <Cromulent> | all the PPA solutions are broken |
| 07:56 | <Cromulent> | I thought Java had ultra long support cycles - bit surprised Java 8 is no longer supported |
| 08:07 | <Cromulent> | right should be installed now |
| 08:10 | <Cromulent> | cool - got my Nem node running on Linode - just need to wait for it to sync now |
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| 08:40 | <Gjzwart> | Millisa: thanks for helping me yesterday, I rewrote a couple of queries, and the load dropped to max 15% :D |
| 08:40 | <Gjzwart> | Have a nice day! |
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| 08:43 | <cruxeternus> | !point millisa |
| 08:43 | <linbot> | cruxeternus: Point given to millisa. (92) (Biggest fan: relidy, total: 17) |
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| 09:00 | -!- | bbigger changed the topic of #linode to: Linode Community Discussion - https://www.linode.com/community | Announcement: Linode Object Storage Early Adopter Program - https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18372 | Mumbai Data Center Now Open - https://blog.linode.com/2019/07/17/linode-mumbai-data-center-now-open/ |
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| 10:15 | <linbot> | New news from community: What do Linode Backups backup and can I rely on it as my only backup solution? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18671> |
| 10:25 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I keep a process running after I disconnect from my Linode? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18672> |
| 10:40 | <Cromulent> | I've got a terminal command running that I started like this ./command & if I close the SSH window will it continue to run on the server in the background? At the moment it is spamming my console window with text |
| 10:43 | <Zr40> | no. Either use screen/tmux or use a proper process manager (supervisord, systemd, whatever) |
| 10:43 | <Cromulent> | hmm still seems to be running after I quit the session |
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| 10:44 | <Cromulent> | I don't care if it doesn't restart on a reboot |
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| 10:44 | <Cromulent> | I mean I could use supervisord |
| 10:44 | <Zr40> | well, it's not guaranteed to keep running, and on some distro's defaults user processes get killed when your session ends |
| 10:44 | <Cromulent> | or systemd |
| 10:45 | <Zr40> | yeah, use screen or tmux |
| 10:46 | <Zr40> | also ideal for long commands that you want to see the output of and want to survive disconnects |
| 10:46 | <Cromulent> | I guess I'll learn how to use tmux then - thanks |
| 10:51 | <Cromulent> | right got it sorted with tmux thanks |
| 10:53 | <Cromulent> | ok tmux seems reasonably straightforward to use - thanks for the tip |
| 10:53 | <Cromulent> | I've heard screen is a little more difficult to use |
| 10:54 | <Zr40> | it's the same, but different (does that help?) |
| 10:54 | <Cromulent> | I guess :) |
| 10:54 | * | Zr40 uses tmux too |
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| 11:35 | <@bbigger> | Zr40: Any interest in adding to that Community post with your suggestions? If not I'd be happy to do so on your behalf :) |
| 11:38 | <Zr40> | go ahead :) |
| 11:39 | <@bbigger> | !point Zr40 |
| 11:39 | <linbot> | bbigger: Point given to zr40. (4) |
| 11:50 | <TaraNT> | K@tydid-header-debris-seamK@tydid-header-debris-seam |
| 11:50 | <millisa> | oops |
| 12:15 | <linbot> | New news from community: How to downgrade Linode <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18673> |
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| 13:25 | <linbot> | New news from community: 400 errors when logging in on Chrome from Windows 10 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18674> |
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| 14:08 | <Cromulent> | hmm for some reason I have 374mb/sec outbound on my private network |
| 14:09 | <Cromulent> | and thats the average |
| 14:10 | <Cromulent> | that's private IPv6 usage |
| 14:11 | <Cromulent> | Private IPv4 has no usage at all |
| 14:12 | <cruxeternus> | Wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it? :P |
| 14:12 | <cruxeternus> | 12:10 < Cromulent> cool - got my Nem node running on Linode - just need to wait for it to sync now |
| 14:13 | <Cromulent> | probably but I'm just curious why it is on the private network and not the public network |
| 14:14 | <gparent> | two linodes on the same location? |
| 14:15 | <Cromulent> | yes I have two linodes in the same location but one is just running two wordpress blogs and a xenforo forum and the other one is a dedicated NEM node |
| 14:15 | <cruxeternus> | My guess would be some kind of configuration problem with that software... trying to sync via your private interface for some reason, and not getting a response, tries relentlessly again |
| 14:16 | <Cromulent> | I'll look into that |
| 14:17 | <Cromulent> | at any rate this kind of usage should only be happening during the initial sync - it should calm down after that |
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| 14:55 | <linbot> | New news from community: Why is my CPU usage showing as more than 100% <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18675> |
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| 15:56 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I upgrade PHP 7.0 to PHP 7.2 <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18676> |
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| 17:04 | <GJZwart> | millisa: Hi! Gotta thank you one more time, I just checked out the usage statistics, and it looks sweet. We even trippeled the number of devices that polls the server, and its still around 10-15 % instead of the insane load it had yesterday |
| 17:05 | <millisa> | You figure out what was going on with the device checkins? |
| 17:05 | <gparent> | I like hearing those stories |
| 17:05 | <gparent> | what did you do millisa |
| 17:05 | <GJZwart> | yeah, it was inefficient queries and lack of proper indexing |
| 17:05 | <millisa> | I think I just pointed GJZwart in the right direction. When I called it a day, they were still digging |
| 17:05 | <millisa> | ++ for good indexes. |
| 17:06 | <GJZwart> | a query that took 9 seconds now takes 320 ms |
| 17:06 | <gparent> | ah cool |
| 17:06 | <gparent> | what kind of DB? |
| 17:06 | <GJZwart> | mariadb |
| 17:06 | <gparent> | oh, glad to hear |
| 17:07 | <GJZwart> | millisa: yeah, you really pointed me into the right direction |
| 17:08 | <GJZwart> | now the server is varying between 3% and 15%, thats not bad at all |
| 17:08 | <millisa> | You might even be able to improve it further by adjusting your my.cnf settings, too. After you've had it running for a week, look into using something like the mysqltuner script to see what suggestions it might have |
| 17:09 | <millisa> | This doc is worth a read: https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mysql/how-to-optimize-mysql-performance-using-mysqltuner/ |
| 17:09 | <millisa> | You don't have to take every recommendation it gives, but it can help you pick out memory adjustments you can make |
| 17:12 | <gparent> | one change at a time! |
| 17:12 | <gparent> | some correct settings for me can trash your performance |
| 17:12 | <gparent> | could* |
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| 17:13 | <GJZwart> | great!! Ill give it a read! |
| 17:14 | <GJZwart> | https://cabbytrack.com/img/linodestats.png |
| 17:15 | <millisa> | nice! |
| 17:15 | <millisa> | That original jump though is crazy |
| 17:15 | <GJZwart> | yeah, thanks to you :D |
| 17:15 | <GJZwart> | yupp, I still dont know what happened there, but well, now its great |
| 17:16 | <millisa> | still, looks better now than before that massive cliff |
| 17:17 | <GJZwart> | yupp, before it had really high oscillations, between 5 and 75% |
| 17:17 | <GJZwart> | now its really stable, so its a great testament on doing the db work right |
| 17:18 | <GJZwart> | I have aboslutely no knowledge of sql, this is all help from you and stackoverflow.. found some great answers there |
| 17:19 | <GJZwart> | If I could I would buy ou a beer or a coffee for helping me out! :D |
| 17:19 | <millisa> | Now, go add 'sql optimization' to the resume, and increase your hourly rate by 10% |
| 17:19 | <GJZwart> | some have a "donate a cup of coffe" on their blog, you should get one too ;) |
| 17:20 | <GJZwart> | lol |
| 17:24 | <cruxeternus> | !coffee millisa |
| 17:24 | <cruxeternus> | !coffee millisa |
| 17:25 | <millisa> | !itvends |
| 17:25 | <linbot> | It vends! a pepper mill |
| 17:25 | <cruxeternus> | Ok, linbot doesn't like me :( |
| 17:27 | <GJZwart> | anyone here running swift on a linode server? |
| 17:28 | <GJZwart> | Vapor has a new service where you can set up a linode with swift and vapor with one click.. Im thinking of giving it a try |
| 17:36 | <GJZwart> | another quick question.. where can I find my linode api token? |
| 17:38 | <gparent> | hahah what a great graph |
| 17:39 | <millisa> | for the v4 api: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/api/getting-started-with-the-linode-api/ |
| 17:39 | <millisa> | If it's the old api: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/api/api-key/ |
| 17:42 | <GJZwart> | thanks.. It was the new api key... Im just poking into that swift vapor linode thingie... |
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| 18:16 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I set permissions for my SFTP user? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18677> |
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| 19:36 | <linbot> | New news from community: Why am I getting the error "you need to load the kernel first"? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18678> |
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| 21:10 | <Cromulent> | hmm am I likely to get into trouble for using 90% CPU on a Linode 2GB? |
| 21:10 | <Cromulent> | not all the time just while this process finishes in a few hours |
| 21:11 | <millisa> | I've had a factorio server eating 100% for days... |
| 21:11 | <Cromulent> | ah cool |
| 21:29 | <@mtjones> | Cromulent: That'll be fine, you can use 100% of each of your Linode's CPUs as needed, as long as it's short term such as a few hours. For long term usage, such as several days, we ask that CPUs be kept to a max of 80% each unless you're using a Dedicated Linode. |
| 21:30 | <millisa> | <--abuser! |
| 21:30 | <millisa> | It was for a good cause. That factory needed to grow. |
| 21:31 | <@mtjones> | Just build a CPU in Factorio, that'll help right? |
| 21:31 | <FluffyFoxeh> | ^^^ |
| 21:37 | <Cromulent> | mtjones: ok thank you for the clarification - I'm just at the crucial stage of syncing my NEM node |
| 21:38 | <Cromulent> | and it seems to be using quite a bit of CPU |
| 21:38 | <Cromulent> | I'm guessing it'll calm down |
| 21:38 | <Cromulent> | I've never run a NEM node before though so I might have to upgrade my Linode again |
| 21:44 | <millisa> | You could consider playing with http://limitcpu.sourceforge.net/ or the older cpulimit it's based on (there's an rpm for it in EPEL if you are using centos) |
| 21:44 | <Cromulent> | nah ubuntu |
| 21:47 | <linbot> | New news from community: How do I remove malware that keeps coming back even after I remove it? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/18679> |
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| 22:56 | <gparent> | Ah yes, McAfeeWare. |
| 23:00 | <Peng> | at the moment McAfee definitely isn't coming back to Belize (because of the murder investigation) or the United States (supposedly because of a tax investigation) |
| 23:04 | <millisa> | his campaign manager has a pretty nice eyepatch |
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| 23:06 | <jag> | hi |
| 23:06 | <jag> | what are the charges for your load balancer? |
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| 23:06 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/nodebalancers |
| 23:06 | <millisa> | down at the bottom |
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