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00:36<zifnab>Ikaros: any idea if the US/russia actually have a copyright treaty?
00:36<zifnab>also that's entertaining
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02:19<nate>zifnab: Fairly certain they have no copyright treaty that is going to support a copyright vastly past statute of limitations
02:21<zifnab>nate: it’s Russia, laws don’t apply when you can bribe people
02:22<nate>zifnab: yes but treaties still generally require cooperative laws, and no court in the US is likely going to buy that company only "just discovered' nginx was a thing, that is assuming they even have a legitimate contract that states the source is theirs
02:22<zifnab>Also copyright terms are absurd, 120y after the death of the author here currently
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03:49<linbot>New news from community: Install Windows Server 2012/2016/2019 on Linode Cloud VPS - Góc IT <>
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06:39<linbot>New news from community: Help Installing pgAdmin4 & PostgreSQL <>
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08:50<linbot>New news from community: why can't I reset the password? <>
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10:57<dubidub>IS having problems at the moment? I'm getting cloudflare error page when trying to load questions (
10:57<millisa>seems ok to me
10:58<@bbigger>dubidub what error are you seeing?
10:58<millisa>is it literally you are trying to load? or a specific url?
10:58<dubidub>Now I'm getting Secure Connection Failed in Firefox.
11:00<dubidub>It's working now, but slow.
11:01<dubidub>The cloudflare error indicates that the problem wasn't at my end.
11:04<AlexMax>oh dear I'm having private networking issues again :(
11:07<dubidub>More problems.
11:07<dubidub>Error 520 Ray ID: 5449301e7c764253 • 2019-12-13 16:06:54 UTC
11:07<dubidub>Web server is returning an unknown error
11:07<dubidub>From Norway
11:07<millisa>loads for me in texas
11:22<cews>OK in UK
11:23<cews>AlexMax: 'sup?
11:50<AlexMax>cews: I'm doing investigative work on it, but I have a sickening feeling that I know what the issue is
11:50<AlexMax>but I'd rather not say publicly until i've confirmed it
11:50<AlexMax>don't want to send people on wild goose chases
12:00<linbot>New news from community: How Do I Copy My Disk Over SSH To Windows? <>
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12:59<samadminmc>Hi all
12:59<samadminmc>I have created a website and exported the html
13:00<samadminmc>I need to know and understnad how can I host the html file on the linode server
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13:07<cews>AlexMax: sounds intriguing
13:10<samadminmc>isnt there a way to upload the HTML files
13:10<samadminmc>Just like GoDaady and other hosting services??
13:10<millisa>linode is a vps provider
13:12<millisa>you setup and manage a server. if setup whatever upload methods and services you want to use
13:12<millisa>er, you setup whatever upload methods...
13:14<samadminmc>thanks <millisa>
13:15<samadminmc>Is there a way to contact youdirectly for help??
13:15<millisa>people in this channel help when they can. just ask
13:15<samadminmc>sunds good I have so many questions
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13:35<nuevu>Put me down as also having received a live migration email (for a node in Toronto). The email does state, "Linode uses live migrations to evacuate hosts for routine maintenance and to rebalance its fleet." (So not just emergency stuff)
13:41<@bbigger>re: live migration emails: we started sending these to all of our customers at the end of November. They're transmitted whenever a live migration of a Linode is initiated.
13:42<Peng_>Ah. Thanks for explaining. My last probable-live-migrations were before that
13:43<Peng_>Thank you for adding the emails. I was uncomfortable with them being so stealthy.
13:44<@bbigger>Sure thing, and glad to hear that. Note that they won't show in Linodes' activity feeds at the moment, so right now the email alerts are the only indicators of live migrations other than direct communications from the Support team.
13:45<nuevu>!point bbigger
13:45<linbot>nuevu: Point given to bbigger. (12)
13:48<warewolf>!point caker
13:48<linbot>warewolf: Point given to caker. (11)
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14:18<kharlan>aws literally couldn't be more complicated
14:19<millisa>don't let them hear you challenging
14:20<kharlan>I'm sure they have a couple snoopers in here. If I don't say anything in the next 24 know they've terminated me.
14:20<Peng_>I don't think AWS alerts you if you get live migrated though :D
14:21<millisa>"AWS Announced New Service: EC4 - for when you need double the EC2 with more unnecessary classification groupings. Note - instance retirement notices will now only be posted to bulletin board in breakroom"
14:21<FluffyFoxeh>I wonder how a live migration is accomplished
14:21<Peng_>Blood sacrifice
14:22<Peng_>and rsync or something
14:23<FluffyFoxeh>We're talking about migrating a VM while it is running, right?
14:23<millisa>better than the undead migrations I wanted I guess
14:23<FluffyFoxeh>How does it do that while maintaining a consistent state
14:24<FluffyFoxeh>Maybe it copies the memory over, then freezes the VM, copies a delta, then resumes on the new machine?
14:25<FluffyFoxeh>Sounds like it is what I described
14:26<FluffyFoxeh>more or less
14:27<FluffyFoxeh>I could be a software engineer :D
14:27<FluffyFoxeh>Well that is a already my job title but I could be a useful software engineer
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14:38<cews>Success! Hot swapping IPs = awesomeness. Cheers Linode!
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15:25<Gerdnl>Ant linode staff online
15:25<millisa>they pop in from time to time
15:25<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
15:25<Gerdnl>2 factor auth stopped working today
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15:26<millisa>Use your scratch code to get in and reset
15:26<@bbigger>if you lost your scratch code:
15:26<Gerdnl>Dont have a scratch code
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15:28<Gerdnl>The weird thing is, i didnt change anything and it was working fine
15:28<Gerdnl>Will mail support do
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15:30<@bbigger>Gerdnl the timer on your authenticator app may also be out of sync—make sure it's within 30 seconds of the actual time for your time zone, which you can verify at
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15:31<Gerdnl>Its a iphone its in sync
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16:22<AlexMax>Hey, can someone take a look at #13139701 either tonight or over the weekend? I think I've found a weird bug with private networking
16:24<@bbigger>AlexMax: We've got eyes on this right now. You can expect an update from us soon.
16:25<AlexMax>sweet, just added an update with some info i forgot to mention - it's something I was able to replicate
16:25<AlexMax>so either there's a heck of a coincidence or that's probably the issue
16:48<LouWestin>I’ve had issues before with 2fa getting out of sync, but that hasn’t happened in quite sometime.
17:03<FluffyFoxeh>>Binary-only in 2019
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17:13<FluffyFoxeh>That's actually kind of crap.
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17:45<FluffyFoxeh>Oh, just the Ookla ( CLI client being closed soruce
17:45<FluffyFoxeh>There's no need for it to be
17:51<cews>Probably don't want people blastin' their infrastructure
18:44<FluffyFoxeh>There's no limitation on that enforced by the client
18:44<FluffyFoxeh>At least, not that I'm aware of. And it'd be trivially bypassed anyway
18:45<dwfreed>there's an opensource CLI client
18:47<FluffyFoxeh>yeah, though Ookla staff say they're not as good :p
18:49<FluffyFoxeh>I don't really know what their business model is.
18:49<FluffyFoxeh>Just advertising on
18:52<FluffyFoxeh>lol they don't even host the speed testing servers themselves, nor do they pay the people who host them
18:52<dwfreed>yes, ads, lots of ads
18:52<dwfreed>so many ads
18:54<FluffyFoxeh>yeah... not really impressed with the company in general
18:54<cews>Block 'em
18:54<cews>At DNS
18:55<dwfreed>I mean, I do, but still
18:56<chesty>the ads test the speed of your computer and it is a speed test company
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21:00<trippeh>ISPs pay them, IIRC
21:00<trippeh>and get reports and stuff in return
21:02<trippeh>also yes the old non-official open source cli was unusable on high bandwidth links
21:02<dwfreed>so what you're saying is I should start installing throttlers on people's machines for speedtest to depress the rankings of Charter and Comcast
21:04<FluffyFoxeh>Maybe it's time to reverse engineer the API and write my own open source CLI :p
21:04<FluffyFoxeh>or maybe just not bother with their "service" and just use iperf3
21:05<trippeh>iperf3 is single threaded so tends to cap out at ~30-40Gbps, laaame ;)
21:05<trippeh>iperf 2.x is better in that regard
21:09<dwfreed>yeah, because your speed matters above 30 Gbps
21:09<dwfreed>just run multiple copies, problem solved
21:41<trippeh>or I could just let iperf2 handle it all for me instead of fucking with multiple copies and ports in both ends
21:53<linbot>New news from community: Mail.log has many references to <>
22:00<kharlan>what are you doing that requires 30gbps
22:02<kharlan>3.75 GB / s of porn is alot
22:06<FluffyFoxeh>11350 miles
22:18<FluffyFoxeh>millisa: Too catchy
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23:17<linbot>New news from community: How do I press Ctrl-Alt-Del in Glish ? <>
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