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#linode IRC Logs for 2020-02-01

---Logopened Sat Feb 01 00:00:36 2020
00:40<dwfreed>Happy Linode Billing Day
01:29<FluffyFoxeh>Mandatory Linode donation day \o/
01:30<FluffyFoxeh>Aw man, I got 7 cents in transfer overage fees
01:30<FluffyFoxeh>:P
01:32<FluffyFoxeh>Guess that's going to eat my gains from refraining from warming the car up while I scrape ice off of it in the morning...
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03:16<dubidub>I was not charged for an additional IP address, if I read my bill right :)
03:19<dwfreed>hah
03:20<dwfreed>I wonder if they dropped the fee
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05:11<linbot>New news from community: Is linodes prepaid or postpaid? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/19389>
05:51<linbot>New news from community: How to make Linode prefer configured static IP for outgoing connections? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/19390>
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06:46<Peng_>I got invoiced like normal
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07:10<cews>FluffyFoxeh: My overages were 11.76
07:10<cews>980GB!
07:12<cews>Works out to be £8 very reasonable (this was after spinning up a few Linode to subside)
07:30<cews>!ips
07:30<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
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08:03<Peng_>I'm glad the API/new manager seems to have removed the 6 IP restrictions on secondary DNS zones.
08:05<cews>I'm starting to prefer the new Manager, actually
08:07<Peng_>Stockholm syndrome is setting in?
08:07<cews>I would think so
08:08<Peng_>The old manager is still up this weekend :D
08:08<cews>I haven't had "Linode Busy." for a while, maybe I'm less aggressive in actioning
08:35<Cromulent>cews: how much total transfer do you use if you don't mind me asking?
08:36<Cromulent>I'm curious because I use about 4GB of my 1TB a month :P
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08:59<cews>Cromulent: My client decided to host virus regarding China (they had friends pass through first hand experiences)
09:00<cews>Went viral - due to circumstances I'll not charge them
09:00<cews>Cromulent: Avg. 1-2TB, This Month 4TB+
09:01<Cromulent>sounds good (not about the virus)
09:03<cews>Cromulent: Example from a Nanode https://imgur.com/a/Z1O7Iky
09:05<Cromulent>I'm always impressed with what a Nanode can handle
09:06<cews>Yep, ffmpeg conversions and blending of subtitles were find also. Tried this on competitors and halted
09:07<cews>fine/
09:11<cews>I always include overages and supports within costs. I don’t strictly limit clients because Linode allows pooling of transfer, often as example I can subside clients overages against another who hasn’t used their allowance. Hence not charging client.
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09:18<LouWestin>Speaking costs, I can’t understand why inmotion comes up as a top rated VPS service when doing a basic search...considering what they charge for unmanaged
09:20<cews>Marketing and SEO I would think
09:20<cews>Purely+
09:21<LouWestin>Maybe paid reviewers too?
09:22<cews>Yep, I like to call that, marketing manipulation
09:23<LouWestin>When I was looking to switch, I can’t remember where, but Linode came up and that was the start of something great.
09:26<cews>I have servers on other providers - due to locations, etc. I do prefer Linode, personally
09:27<Zr40>our transfer pool is 89 TB. We use about half of that
09:28<cews>Let's group together and share 1 Linode acc, to increase our overall pool.
09:28*cews laughs
09:37<LouWestin>For mission critical/redundancy reasons, I would use two different providers like some do.
09:38<LouWestin>Linode could maybe offer pool sharing? lol
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09:50<fdskjsd>hello , how much would it cost for a server with some game servers ? like terraria maby something else aswell ? with mods :)
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12:29<primitiv>if i cancel my account do i get prorated ?
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12:39<primitiv>I just paid today
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12:40<LouWestin>You only pay for the time you use, unless you pay ahead
12:43<linbot>New news from community: Best optimize settings for the 16 CPUs Linode <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/19391>
12:43<LouWestin>and I believe if you delete your current server(s) they'll bill you for the time they've been running since your last payment
12:44<primitiv>cool so a few bucks no issue there
12:45<LouWestin>Some folks make one big payment for the year. Other's like me, just pay monthly.
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12:59<cews>I have a feeling, he'll be back
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13:04<koenig>That's a lot of chaos there.
13:04<LouWestin>It appears he moved to liquid web
13:05<koenig>I didn't know what Liquid Web was before just now, but maybe that'll turn out to be a better solution for his needs.
13:06<koenig>It'd be interesting to know the number of people who come to Linode as, for example, a younger person maybe at university who want to learn how a computer online really works.
13:06<LouWestin>I just did a tracert on his one site he mentioned he had problems with.
13:07<LouWestin>He got the ssl issue fixed.
13:07<koenig>Well, that's a good outcome at least.
13:08<koenig>What he's wanting is a place he can go and fire up a site that does "something" (i.e., some goal that he's interested in achieving).
13:08<koenig>What I was pondering a few sentences above is somebody who is wanting to dig in and learn how computers really work.
13:08<LouWestin>It's fully managed so that "Should" be better for him. But at least he didn't run with Web Faction or Inmotion
13:08<cews>We all started like that, am I right?
13:09<koenig>Well, I started working as a systems programmer back in the late 1980's and early 1990's. I ran, for example, e-mail servers for a university campus back then.
13:09<koenig>So when I came to Linode, I understood exactly what I wanted.
13:09<LouWestin>I started out with Inmotion for quite awhile, then Webfaction for a few months, then Linode
13:09<cews>I used to do server maintenance for web host providers, on call
13:09<LouWestin>In between all that I was learning Linux commands
13:10<cews>Learn-as-you-earn type gig
13:10<koenig>Back in graduate school, I no longer worked as a systems programmer, but I did join a small group of guys who pooled money and ran a fractional T1 into a guy's house where we all hosted physical computers.
13:10<koenig>Like, 20 years ago.
13:10<koenig>Linode is just a much smarter, better way of doing the things I want to do personally.
13:10<cews>Neat
13:10<koenig>But I am also interested in the "knowing" part of things. I want to understand how everything works.
13:11<koenig>Our friend primitiv doesn't. He wants something that just accomplishes his direct goal.
13:11<koenig>And that's okay.
13:11<LouWestin>I got tired of all the having to make tickets and waiting for an update, transfer, etc.
13:11<cews>Of course!
13:11<cews>He just needs to be honest to himself, I think
13:11<cews>"What am I doing?"
13:11<dwfreed>and not be such a vampire
13:12<cews>!point dwfreed
13:12<linbot>cews: Point given to dwfreed. (96) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 19)
13:12<cews>I like
13:12<koenig>Yeah. Well, not understanding how to ask questions the right way goes hand-in-hand with not knowing other things.
13:12<LouWestin>Of course when I first joined Linode, I had a few noob questions and sent out a few tickets which support basically pointed me in the right direction
13:12<koenig>Yep. That's what I mean when I say "we all learned at one time".
13:13<koenig>Anyway, I hope he gets to his goal.
13:14<LouWestin>basically I wanted a service where if I want to update to PHP 7.3 I could simply just do it myself. Not create a ticket, pay a fee, and have it 12 hours later
13:14<koenig>Yep, me too.
13:15<LouWestin>Man that so annoying. lol
13:15<koenig>You want a place that rewards you for taking the initiative to understand things.
13:16<LouWestin>This chat channel was really good for when I had a question about how to get postfix to work or when my wordpress site was getting slammed by some login bots.
13:17<LouWestin>Issues with upgrading Debian, dwfreed said run "this commmand" fixed
13:20<LouWestin>I think it was aptitude
13:20<LouWestin>instead of apt-get
13:21<koenig>The end result is that your initiative to learn benefits you personally.
13:21<koenig>I guess that's what I'm getting at.
13:21<LouWestin>yeah I learned a ton about admining a server
13:21<koenig>In my experience, there are plenty of generous people in the world who will help people who seem to be interested in taking initiative.
13:21<koenig>And then hopefully you'll be able to pay it forward yourself in some way.
13:26<millisa>no more bobby?
13:26<LouWestin>For now
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13:50<@mcintosh>hey, remember the time Bobby tackled the referee by mistake?
13:52<Zr40>is this something about sportsball with lots of latin numerals?
13:53<Zr40>s/latin/roman/
13:54<dwfreed>no, it's a movie quote
13:54<dwfreed>see Waterboy
13:55<dwfreed>mcintosh: How 'bout the time Bobby tackled the guy from Louisville, and threw him into the stands?
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15:04<primitiv>forgot to ask earlier, is there any special procedures to cancel my account?
15:04<primitiv>besides backing up any data of course
15:04<dwfreed>nope, just click the button
15:04<millisa>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-support/billing-and-payments/#canceling-your-account
15:05<millisa>!point cews
15:05<linbot>millisa: Point given to cews. (3)
15:05<primitiv>sweet, will probably end up doing that by the end of the day
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15:40<@mcintosh>!point dwfreed
15:40<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to dwfreed. (97) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 20)
15:40<@mcintosh>a man of exquisite taste...
15:41<dwfreed>!point millisa
15:41<linbot>dwfreed: Point given to millisa. (124) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 18)
15:41<dwfreed>mcintosh: apparently it's on Netflix
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15:45<Zr40>!point linbot
15:45<linbot>Zr40: Point given to linbot. (1337) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 20)
15:57<koenig>Pretty elite.
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17:07<mrsideways>what is the price of bandwidth if I go over my limit?
17:07<mrsideways>on a nanode
17:07<mrsideways>i mean data transfer, not bandwidth
17:10<Zr40>$0.01 per GB
17:10<mrsideways>very reasonable thank you for the answer
17:10<mrsideways>!point Zr40
17:10<linbot>mrsideways: Point given to zr40. (6)
17:10<mrsideways>I am really happy with linode based on the past 5 days since I started using it
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17:30<primitiv>do i just delete my linode to cancel my account>?
17:30<primitiv>i cant find a delete button.....
17:32<Zr40>it's all detailed at https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-support/billing-and-payments/#removing-services
17:33<dwfreed>https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-support/billing-and-payments/#canceling-your-account
17:33<dwfreed>there's step by step instructions
17:33<Zr40>or skip to https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/billing-and-support/billing-and-payments/#canceling-your-account to do it all in one fell swoop
17:35<primitiv>gracias seor
17:35<primitiv>senor*
17:37<primitiv>boom closed
17:37<primitiv>when does the final invoice of 0.33 cents get invoiced?
17:37<dwfreed>as I recall, it's immediate
17:37<primitiv>do ireceive an email copy of this as well?
17:37<dwfreed>I would suspect so, yes
17:43<primitiv>nothing as of yet?
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17:54<primitiv>still no email, do they not send anything if so can i request an email sent?
18:07<dwfreed>You'd have to email support
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19:52<primitiv>lol
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20:12<cews>I'm going to chance it.. Bobby'll be back, again. If not -1 a point from me.
20:16<Toba>that's a no from me, dawg
20:27<cews>Keep it up though. Be the good boy. Work it out.
20:28<cews>Randy Jackson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLLjAcV3kNc
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21:11<LouWestin>Bobby should just keep his account open just in case.
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21:15<LouWestin>He might comeback though for some non-linode service Q&A
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21:59<chesty>how much would it cost linode to process 33 cents? they might not bother. for years aws sent me an email every month for a 1 cent invoice, I can't remember if they wanted me to pay it but I never did. eventually they stopped emailing me
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23:35<linbot>New news from community: Is outbound connections for postfix (using gmail) disabled for new linodes? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/19392>
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