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---Logopened Fri Mar 06 00:00:25 2020
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01:03<FluffyFoxeh>sounds awfully familiar
01:04<FluffyFoxeh>the complaint about the GPU servers being not competitive for "ML people"
01:06<millisa>a very sideways individual
01:06<FluffyFoxeh>mm, indeed
01:06<millisa>i felt the fusion
01:07<LouWestin>10TB storage needed right now? Hmm...
01:08<LouWestin>That would run you about $34 a day
01:09<LouWestin>$1024 / 30 days
01:09<FluffyFoxeh>yup, that's about what millisa said too
01:09<@_brian>i know nothing about how other providers charge for storing data. what would be the aws equivalent to keep 10TB on a powered off device?
01:10<LouWestin>Ah... have to look
01:10<@_brian>nah dont bother if you don't already know, just a passing thought
01:10<millisa>would depend on the storage. their ssd ebs volumes are about the same as do/linode/rackspace. they have a non-ssd option that's a little under half. they also have this really slow 'cold' option that's cheaper.
01:10<FluffyFoxeh>That sounds reasonable for 10TB of fast, available, redundant storage
01:11<@_brian>ahh, makes sense
01:11<Peng_>You could also take a snapshot and delete the volume
01:12<millisa> the gp2/io1/st1/sc1 prices are there at the top
01:15<@_brian>not as bad as i assumed. the feedback i most often see from customers is how much cheaper we are
01:15<millisa>_brian: if you need some light reading -
01:15<LouWestin>Aws is going to br about the same price
01:15<LouWestin>Certainly not cheaper
01:24<@_brian>millisa thank you, i'm comforted to know that our platform can't be used to build skynet
01:25<@_brian>this is quite the read
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06:57<linbot>New news from community: Write for Linode application? <>
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07:17<linbot>New news from community: Does microphone work on Linode? <>
07:22<Xion>Someone wants to spy on the data center it seems
07:23<Xion>Or it just very, very confused about the who "another person's computer" concept
07:38<LouWestin>They sound very confused.
07:38<Peng_>How can you tell
07:41<LouWestin>The lack of explanation
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08:27<linbot>New news from community: www-data group issue with wordpress file permissions <>
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12:00<levic>Hi, does anyone know if Linode accepts prepaid gift VISA cards for payment? DigitalOcean does not
12:07<koenig>I use one and it works.
12:07<koenig>There's a wide variety in prepaid gift VISA cards, though.
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12:08<LouWestin>levic: you might need to make sure the card is setup to allow online payments
12:08<koenig>I do exactly that. I think I had to give it my address and specifically my zip code.
12:09<@jackley>levic: it should work
12:09<levic>Thanks for the answers!
12:09<levic>I'll give it a try
12:10<LouWestin>Happy Friday
12:10<@jackley>happy friday
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12:11<AndrewG_>Hey guys, prospective user with a question: Can I install Windows VM ?
12:12<@jackley>AndrewG_: yup, though it's not officially supported (things may be weird, we're limited in the help we can provide)
12:12<@jackley>AndrewG_: it'll run though
12:12<@jackley>AndrewG_: check out this answer
12:12<AndrewG_>Got it, thank you very much!
12:13<@jackley>no problem!
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16:09<linbot>New news from community: How can I check to see if any users have been added or removed recently on my Linode? <>
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18:19<@mcintosh>jdutton: i missed responding to that highlight but I'm always down for chicky nuggies :3
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18:47<balzamipro>how to contact linode support?
18:47<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
18:48<@rgerke>I am a Linode Support Team member - how can I help?
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18:50<balzamipro>i have created my account, but linode has send me a cancelation email, why?
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20:30<linbot>New news from community: Why is my CPU utilization graph different to top ... <>
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20:59<Ashwin>Anyone out there?
21:00<Ashwin>wordpress hosting?
21:00<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
21:00<nate>Linode is a VPS provider, so long as it'll run on linux distros and doesn't violate law/terms of service yes
21:01<Ashwin>I am planning to host my wordpress website
21:03<Ashwin>Can I host multiple websites by signing up with the entry level plan?
21:03<Toba>Linode is an unmanaged provider
21:03<Toba>You can definitely run multiple websites on a single entry level server, but you're going to have to install and configure it yourself
21:03<millisa>it's a server you install the OS on and setup however you want. if the resources work for you and you know how to setup multiple sites, sure.
21:03<Toba>and maintain it
21:04<Toba>And it really depends on the traffic if it will be able to support multiple of your sites
21:04<Toba>and how complex the code you put into wordpress is I guess
21:04<Toba>you'd have to try it and find out
21:06<Ashwin>Can I host multiple websites by signing up with the entry level plan??
21:06<Toba>we answered your question don't re-ask
21:06<millisa>multiple websites can exist on one linode, sure
21:07<nate>Ashwin: Do you understand what a VPS is? It's a virtual root server, as in an instance of resources you can do whatever you want (legally and within policy) on. Whether it be 1 site or 100 sites
21:07<Ashwin>Can I transfer my existing websites from my parent hosting to Linode along with emails?
21:08<nate>Technically speaking yes, but I think you need to understand you would be entirely within your own capacities to do so, linode does not assist with that outside of probably the professional support plan
21:08<millisa>You might want to look at the getting started guide to get a feel for the type of things you'd do just to get the server running -
21:09<Ashwin>Do linode charge monthly or yearly? Also whether price goes up at the time of renewal the way other hosting providers do?
21:10<millisa>linode bills hourly
21:10<nate>I don't think I've ever seen a plan increase ever occur, if anything plan prices have dropped
21:11<virtual>gosh, that's right. I've never seen the price go up. Down, yes. Up, no.
21:11<virtual>if not down, then you get more for the same money.
21:11<virtual>e.g. RAM / HDD upgrades.
21:12<Ashwin>Thank you everyone for your prompt response
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21:14<virtual>Ashwin: don't count on the 'more' - it just depends! I know that the linode I'm paying for now is almost double the spec it was when I first startedpaying for it - but taht was *years* ago. And yes, I'm a lowly single linode user now.
21:14<@_brian>just missed him
21:14<@_brian>yall are great btw
21:15<nate>Does that mean we get discounts on next months bill
21:15<virtual>nate: snap!
21:15<virtual>You beat me to it ;)
21:16<millisa>they'll discount your dns hosting cost 50% if you ask nicely
21:16<virtual>How big is the discount? 100%*0?
21:16<nate>I really gotta do something with my linodes though, linode is making bank from me. I got like 3 linodes doing practically nothing but costin me cash :P
21:16<@mcintosh>hell - we'll discount your dns hosting by 100%!
21:16<virtual>I won't shake your hand, virus and all.
21:17<@mcintosh>nate: think about how much better it would be if Dyou had 6 linodes doing that!
21:17<@mcintosh>at least 2x better
21:17<@_brian>you could orchestrate them with a nice LKE cluster
21:17<@mcintosh>although, i think there are enough linodes for linode to give every single american 1,000,000 linodes so, what's really going on here? ._.
21:17<millisa>definitely needs a node balancer. hopefully your nothing scales horizontally
21:20<@mcintosh>whatever, i'm funny
21:23<@_brian>clearly chat is full of the top 1% linode owners who disapprove you pointing out the massive linode disparity we're faced with
21:31<@mcintosh>!point _brian
21:31<linbot>mcintosh: Point given to _brian. (2)
21:31<@mcintosh>How Can Linodes Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
21:34<virtual>I can't believe no one corrected my HDD mistake.
21:35<@_brian>it was probably accurate depending on how long you've been here
21:36<virtual>yeah, but it's been incorrect for many more years since :)
21:36<virtual>should've taken the generic option of 'storage'.
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23:33<ssa_>hi team
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23:34<ssa_>I have a node that's stuck in a panic loop with this in the logs : [424813.110064] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [kworker/0:2:82641]
23:35<ssa_>Full log here:
23:35<ssa_>This machine runs a cassandra node. "Latest 64 bit (5.4.10-x86_64-linode132)" with Debian 10 buster
23:36<ssa_>Could this be a host issue by any chance?
23:36<ssa_>Or should I consider using a different kernel version?
23:37<millisa>that kernel's been out for almost 2 months
23:38<ssa_>Do you mean "only" 2 months? :P
23:38<ssa_>Like it's not tested enough to be used. :P
23:39<millisa>it's likely there are many other linode users on it. haven't seen a lot in here about it causing that error
23:39<millisa>well, or any error. have you opened a ticket with linode? they'd be the ones that would confirm a host issue
23:40<ssa_>Grafana shows everything was normal until the last blip it received. (50% RAM, <20% cpu, <15% disk used, etc)
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23:46<ssa_>I'm going to open a ticket, but I'm also going to reboot the node.
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