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---Logopened Thu Jan 14 00:00:54 2021
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02:51<linbot>New news from community: What happens if a migration fails? <>
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03:16<wany>I need help, I cannot connect use SSh tunnel in Mac OS . it says connection failed
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09:20<Baba>hello, can someone help me install windows 2019 on linode safely?
09:20-!-Baba is now known as Guest10438
09:22<Guest10438>hello, can someone help me install windows 2019 on linode safely?
09:24<Guest10438>hmm thanks you
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09:38<linbot>Another satisfied customer! NEXT!
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09:43<linbot>New news from community: Why I am unable to send emails ? <>
09:43<mohammad>part #linode
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09:44<jkwood>part man
09:44<jkwood>all justice
09:44<jkwood>He is: @caker
10:04<linbot>It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions:
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10:23<kharlan>Don’t do it...
10:25<LouWestin>I don't even know how to run a Windows server lol
10:26<dwfreed>it's pain
10:26<kharlan>Step 1: install windows , step 2: set up commercial software step 3: watch things break
10:26<dwfreed>Every windows server admin is an alcoholic for a reason
10:27<LouWestin>I had a student copy of windows... 2008? and another one I can't remember
10:28<kharlan>2008 and 2012 are faster than 2016
10:28<kharlan>it’s a bit funny watching a 2012 TS outperform a 2016 one. Why tf did I upgrade then?!
10:30<kharlan>Anyway, since we hate windows so much we’re trying to use Linux wherever we can.
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10:31<LouWestin>This computer i'm on is Win 10, but that's about the only Windows thing I use
10:32<LouWestin>Grew up on DOS (I'm showing my age) and Windows 3.1
10:36<LouWestin>For a Linux desktop distro, I like Fedora
10:37<LouWestin>Upgrading twice a year is a pain though
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11:21<@pwoods>LouWestin: the first computer I remember using anything like a command line was a Gateway 2000 that ran MS DOS. I think it was Windows 3.1, too. I remember needing to write commands at the DOS prompt to bring up a word processor to write a paper for school.
11:22<LouWestin>Oh yeah the Gateways
11:23<LouWestin>I played Flight Simulator 5 on a 486 with 4MB of ram I
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11:26<mohammad_>Hi @nate
11:26<@pwoods>I remember playing "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego" and a Lego car racing game, among other things
11:26<@pwoods>Hey mohammad_
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11:27<mohammad_>Hi @pwdoods
11:27<mohammad_>Hi @pwoods
11:28<LouWestin>I watched the show Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego
11:29<mohammad_>This is the first time I'm using IRC
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11:40<LouWestin>I like IRC, much nicer than social media. Usually
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11:57<@rgerke>My first computer had a tape drive and I used to play text games like Zork. I'm ancient.
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11:59<redentor>My firt computer was a 486 with Win95
11:59<kharlan>Well I feel like a child. My first OS was windows XP...
12:00<LouWestin>We upgraded to win 95. Hated it
12:00<LouWestin>Windows XP was a nice improvement
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12:05<chesty>vic20 c64 386dx40 with dos and win3.1 win95 was the last windows I bought
12:13<LouWestin>I think I bought 7
12:15<chesty>that's greedy, even 5 is too many
12:16<LouWestin>Sorry I mean Windows 7
12:16<LouWestin>I didn't buy Windows 8 or 10
12:17<Ikaros>Heh, I got Win 7 for free through MSDN while I was in school. Never "bought" Windows itself - it was either through OEM or MSDN.
12:19<Ikaros>And of course that meant that, when 10 rolled out for the first time and they had their little upgrade program, I got 10 for free.
12:20<LouWestin>I haven't paid for 10
12:20<Ikaros>Only time I paid for 10 was to upgrade my dad's PC from Vista.
12:21<Ikaros>So really that license was for him, not me
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12:24<Ikaros>But heck, I still remember my old AMD K6-III in all its glory, running DOS + 3.1 initially then somehow I got 95 on there and then 98SE later on towards the end of its life.
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12:43<linbot>New news from community: How do I edit sshd_config with my users? <>
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13:09<chesty>those old amds were heaters from memory
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13:39<kharlan>nothing beats a toasty amd to get through the winter'
13:41<LouWestin>I remember one of the neighbor's kids wanted to build a PC. He got a Rizon, but no heatsink. Wanted to use one from a Pentium 4 or something
13:41<LouWestin>I'm like NO! That's not going to work chemo-sabi
13:45<LouWestin>then he picks another one that won't work either... I'm like "this one"
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14:03<LouWestin>Hi kevin20001927
14:03<@pwoods>oh no, I thought I deleted that 3...
14:04<LouWestin>I thought you were making a heart emoji ;-)
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15:15<gaz082>hey. any idea how long does it take to get a reply from linode after submitting by mail the CC info and ID for resetting the 2FA?
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15:15<millisa>they are usually pretty quick. sometimes if you drop a ticket number in here one of the lurking staff might pick it up
15:17<gaz082>cool. the thing is i cant even open a ticket, because asks for login :P
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15:18<millisa>I assumed the reply mail might give the ticket number. Guess not.
15:20<@_brian>gaz082 i have someone looking for you right now
15:20<@rgerke>!point _brian
15:20<linbot>rgerke: Point given to _brian. (23)
15:22<gaz082>@_brian thanks!
15:22<@_brian>you're welcome :)
15:22<kharlan>brian to the rescue 🚀
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15:42<@_brian>gaz082 you should be all set, thanks for being patient while we took care of that
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15:46<gaz082>_brian: thank you and the support team! all is good now!
15:46<LouWestin>I keep my 2fa codes backed up now. I almost learned the hardway with Google authenicator when switching phones
15:46<gaz082>I had forgotten to enter the verification code when changed the 2FA, now i made sure to enter it :P
15:47<LouWestin>It's easy to do
15:47<LouWestin>easy to make that mistake I mean
15:47<LouWestin>I ended up adding my 2fa codes in Authy and Bitwarden
15:53<gaz082>i use google's
15:53<gaz082>good enough
15:53<gaz082>hope they dont kill it
15:56<LouWestin>It's fine, just keep a backup of your codes
15:56<@pwoods>Google's doesn't move between devices. I waited years to update my phone and was locked out of a couple sites when I finally did. I was very lucky to find the scratch codes on an old Linode I've had around since I first started here and us it mostly for notes and projects.
15:57<LouWestin>I keep scratch codes printed out and backed up, but still I have a couple backups of them digitally
15:57<gaz082>i believe now it allows you to move between phones, let me check..
15:58<gaz082>yes, now you can "transfer accounts"
15:58<gaz082>you have import and export options
16:02<LouWestin>It'll let you export, but it only as a QR code export
16:04<koenig>It takes me forever to manually write out a QR code. :) :) :)
16:12<gaz082>i checked it, generates a mighty QR code with all the data in it, seems easy enough to port. If you do not have the new phone on hand you can take a screenshot
16:14<LouWestin>That's nothing... dwfreed writes out his ssh keys
16:14<LouWestin>by hand!
16:14<LouWestin>I keep a few backups just in case.
16:15<LouWestin>You never know, authy could go down
16:16<LouWestin>or whatever
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18:40<millisa>CES had the epyc 3rd gens. My linode needs this now. And a coldsnap in every location.
18:42<millisa>the coldsnap will improve operations at every datacenter and support location. Fact.
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18:49<LouWestin>millisa: The frozen coffee and cocktails sounds great! Though, I probably could use a protein shake instead
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19:45<chesty>I wonder if it's mathematically possible to calculate the scratch code if you feed into a formula, say, 10 codes and timestamps
19:50<chesty>scratch codes aren't what I thought they were.
19:57<rsdehart>you're a scratch code
19:57<rsdehart>what is a scratch code?
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20:25<chesty>as far as i understood it they are one time passwords
20:26<chesty>you can one to log in, and a second one to disable 2fa so you can readd it
20:26<chesty>i a word out, you can use one to log in
20:29<chesty>to make it clearer, scratch codes go into the 2fa form after you authenticate with your usual username/password.
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22:22<rsdehart>chesty: ahh ok
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