--- | Log | opened Wed Feb 03 00:00:03 2021 |
--- | Day | changed Wed Feb 03 2021 |
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00:00 | -!- | duncanm is "Duncan Mak" on #linode |
00:00 | <duncanm> | hello hello, i've an old linode that I lost my password to |
00:01 | <duncanm> | i rebooted it using finnix, but i don't think that's showing me my other image |
00:01 | <millisa> | you'll want to chroot into the disk; there's a doc on it |
00:01 | <millisa> | about this section and onward: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/rescue-and-rebuild/#mounting-disks |
00:02 | <millisa> | there's also a root password reset too that might be quicker if all you need is that |
00:02 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/reset-the-root-password-on-your-linode/ |
00:05 | <duncanm> | thanks |
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00:35 | <duncanm> | millisa: is there a way i can download the disk image i have on linode to a machine locally? |
00:35 | <millisa> | you could dd it over ssh from rescue mode |
00:35 | <millisa> | "There's a doc for that" - https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/copying-a-disk-image-over-ssh/ |
00:36 | <dwfreed> | ^ this |
00:37 | <duncanm> | I booted this old image and turned on ssh, but i still can't ssh in |
00:39 | <duncanm> | huh, this is running Debian wheezy, it's so old the apt mirrors don't have anything for it anymore |
00:39 | <dwfreed> | wow, that is old |
00:39 | <virtual> | hey, you're sysadminning like me. |
00:39 | <virtual> | we should start a club |
00:40 | <millisa> | archive.debian.org still have it? |
00:40 | <millisa> | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/ |
00:41 | <millisa> | https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive mentioned updating the sources.list for it |
00:43 | <duncanm> | i've been paying linode for a few years just to keep the image, i kinda forgot about it |
00:43 | <duncanm> | it's been offline, i think either it got hacked, or the image got so old |
00:43 | <duncanm> | anyhow, it stopped working, i think my IP address changed too, so my DNS setup lapsed |
00:51 | <duncanm> | hmm |
00:51 | <duncanm> | duncan@i-am:/etc/apt$ nslookup ftp.debian.org |
00:51 | <duncanm> | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
00:51 | <duncanm> | duncan@i-am:/etc/apt$ cat /etc/resolv.conf |
00:51 | <duncanm> | domain members.linode.com |
00:51 | <duncanm> | search members.linode.com |
00:51 | <duncanm> | nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
00:51 | <duncanm> | is that too old? |
00:51 | <duncanm> | i changed it to 8.8.8.8 |
00:51 | <virtual> | and it still doesn't work? |
00:51 | <duncanm> | i can't seem to resolve DNS |
00:52 | <duncanm> | i'm ready to abandon this image, i just want to get my files off it |
00:52 | <virtual> | you're on via lish, I assume? Can you get to anything else? |
00:52 | <duncanm> | yeah, i can get in via lish |
00:52 | <dwfreed> | try pinging 8.8.8.8 |
00:52 | <virtual> | so networking might be totally dead? |
00:52 | <duncanm> | i don't have a ping binary ;-/ |
00:52 | <virtual> | ohhh |
00:52 | <virtual> | telnet port 53? |
00:53 | <duncanm> | from where to where? |
00:53 | <duncanm> | duncan@i-am:/etc/apt$ telnet localhost:53 | |
00:53 | <duncanm> | telnet: could not resolve localhost:53/telnet: Name or service not known |
00:53 | <virtual> | to 8.8.8.8 :) |
00:53 | <duncanm> | networking is completely fucked |
00:53 | <duncanm> | telnet: could not resolve 8.8.8.8:53/telnet: Name or service not known |
00:53 | <duncanm> | wow |
00:53 | <duncanm> | how does that happen? |
00:53 | <virtual> | telnet 8.8.8.8 53 |
00:53 | <virtual> | not : |
00:54 | <duncanm> | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable |
00:54 | <duncanm> | but somehow i can ssh in from lish |
00:54 | <virtual> | bleh, okay. ip route show, or netstat -rn ? |
00:54 | <virtual> | lish is to a console |
00:54 | <duncanm> | duncan@i-am:/etc/apt$ netstat -rn |
00:54 | <duncanm> | Kernel IP routing table |
00:54 | <duncanm> | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface |
00:54 | <duncanm> | duncan@i-am:/etc/apt$ |
00:54 | <millisa> | !paste |
00:54 | <linbot> | Please paste longer snippets over at https://bpaste.net/ and not in the channel |
00:54 | <duncanm> | okay |
00:55 | <duncanm> | i guess i need to have a correct /etc/resolv.conf |
00:55 | <virtual> | I don't think resolv.conf is going to help if you have no interfaces |
00:56 | <duncanm> | yeah, what's the thing that sets your gateway and all that |
00:56 | <virtual> | maybe something you've already tried, but I would just try /etc/init.d/networking restart or something first. |
00:56 | <virtual> | (yes, sure, you could probably do it better with 'service' etc. |
00:58 | <duncanm> | oh yeah, it's wrong |
00:58 | <duncanm> | i haven't had to do this in many years |
00:58 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/linux-static-ip-configuration/#debian |
00:58 | <millisa> | (/etc/network/interfaces edit, ifup eth0) |
00:59 | <duncanm> | thanks! |
00:59 | <duncanm> | this brings back memories |
00:59 | <virtual> | millisa: you're actually useful. I just talk rubbish. |
00:59 | <virtual> | "just wing it" |
01:00 | <millisa> | it's all fun and games until you realize you don't have an editor |
01:00 | <duncanm> | is there no DHCP? |
01:00 | <dwfreed> | millisa: cat is an editor |
01:00 | <millisa> | there is, and it *should* be working. |
01:00 | <dwfreed> | millisa: sed is an editor |
01:00 | <millisa> | echo things >> file like jesus intended |
01:01 | <virtual> | !point millisa |
01:01 | <linbot> | virtual: Point given to the old and crusty millisa. (204) |
01:01 | <virtual> | !point dwfreed |
01:01 | <linbot> | virtual: Point given to the venerable dwfreed. (124) |
01:01 | <virtual> | dwfreed: it's in the name, right, stream editor. |
01:01 | <virtual> | fancy kids with their vi |
01:01 | <duncanm> | https://bpa.st/6EFQ |
01:02 | <millisa> | just in case - https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/find-your-linodes-ip-address/ |
01:02 | <millisa> | i can ping that IP that's in there |
01:03 | <millisa> | it claims ssh is listening on it. |
01:03 | <virtual> | fingers crossed? |
01:13 | <duncanm> | hmm, did I get this wrong? |
01:14 | <duncanm> | https://bpa.st/UXQQ |
01:14 | <millisa> | that's a different IP |
01:14 | <duncanm> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LhAk0GzO/image.png |
01:14 | <millisa> | i can ping it. it has a lot of things open and listening. |
01:15 | <duncanm> | 45.79.214.112 |
01:15 | <duncanm> | that one? |
01:15 | <duncanm> | ahh, it's running |
01:15 | <millisa> | yeah. there's a lighttpd page |
01:15 | <duncanm> | woohoo |
01:15 | <duncanm> | yay, it's all running now |
01:16 | <millisa> | your smtp helo is amusing. |
01:23 | <duncanm> | fun ties |
01:23 | <duncanm> | fun times |
01:23 | <duncanm> | so i just need to copy my files elsewhere and then i can repave this |
01:23 | <duncanm> | finally |
01:24 | <duncanm> | thanks for all the help, millisa and virtual |
01:51 | <millisa> | !point virtual |
01:51 | <linbot> | millisa: Point given to virtual. (4) |
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03:02 | <keshist> | anyone here? |
03:02 | <millisa> | just me and a few hundred of my closest friends |
03:03 | <keshist> | any linode staff here? |
03:03 | <millisa> | !ops |
03:03 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/ |
03:04 | <keshist> | i coulda swore linode supported windows? |
03:04 | <millisa> | It's possible to install windows. Supported - no. |
03:04 | <millisa> | !winode |
03:04 | <linbot> | It is possible to run Windows on !kvm Linodes. Here's a set of unofficial instructions: https://github.com/linode/docs/pull/501#issuecomment-232414947 |
03:05 | <keshist> | thx |
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03:09 | <zwt> | hello everybody |
03:09 | <millisa> | greetings |
03:09 | <zwt> | somebody could help me a bit here? I added a new disk to my linode and even after a reboot from the manager it doesn't appear from fdisk |
03:09 | <zwt> | what do I need to do to get it appear? |
03:10 | <zwt> | it's not object storage |
03:10 | <millisa> | Block storage? |
03:10 | <zwt> | yes |
03:11 | <millisa> | It should show the file system path when you setup the volume |
03:11 | <zwt> | https://www.linode.com/products/block-storage/ |
03:11 | <zwt> | ah |
03:11 | <millisa> | Did you see this doc - https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/how-to-use-block-storage-with-your-linode/ |
03:11 | <zwt> | I guess I have to do the bottom of this |
03:11 | <zwt> | okay |
03:12 | <zwt> | actually |
03:12 | <zwt> | no that's not right |
03:12 | <zwt> | https://www.linode.com/products/block-storage/ |
03:13 | <zwt> | if I use the instructions at the bottom of this page that will create a new volume right? |
03:13 | <zwt> | @millisa: I added tthe new disk by going to my linode, clicking on storage then at the right top "Add Disk" |
03:14 | <millisa> | That's an allocation out of the linode's storage, not a block storage volume |
03:14 | <millisa> | If you create a disk there, you need to also go in to the profile and set it up there |
03:15 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/disk-images-and-configuration-profiles/#editing-a-configuration-profile |
03:15 | <millisa> | There'll be a popout on the right where you can do the block device assignments |
03:16 | <zwt> | Select a Linode. The Linode’s detail page appears. |
03:16 | <zwt> | on that page there is no Disks/Configs tab |
03:16 | <millisa> | looks like that doc needs updating. |
03:17 | <millisa> | See the 'Configurations' tab? |
03:17 | <zwt> | ah |
03:17 | <zwt> | yes |
03:17 | <zwt> | sorry |
03:17 | <millisa> | not your fault. the docs outdated |
03:17 | <millisa> | mostly the same steps though, click the ... next to the config profile and the popout on the right should mostly look like that doc describes |
03:19 | <zwt> | okay it looks good now. One more question: what is the difference between volumes and the new disk I just created? both are being charged at 1$ per 10GB right? we wanted to avoid Object Storage as the single file size limit there is 5GB and we have files in 30-50GB in size |
03:20 | <millisa> | A linode will come with storage as part of the cost. You don't pay additional for it beyond the base cost of the linode. Block storage volumes cost extra. Object storage costs extra. |
03:20 | <millisa> | Block storage volumes can be a way to add lots of storage to smaller linodes. They don't get picked up by the backup service. |
03:21 | <millisa> | Performance of block storage volumes isn't as good as the local storage. |
03:21 | <zwt> | but by adding a new disk we add more storage to the linode as we already used all which were originally came with the plan |
03:22 | <zwt> | so that would be block storage as well right? |
03:22 | <millisa> | The 'disks' section would be using storage that comes with your plan |
03:23 | <zwt> | I added a new disk in the disk section |
03:23 | <millisa> | They've increased the storage allocated to different plan sizes several times. Maybe that's how you got more? |
03:23 | <zwt> | nope |
03:23 | <millisa> | Which plan size are you on? |
03:23 | <zwt> | Dedicated 64GB and now we have 1280GB storage |
03:23 | <millisa> | That's how much comes with the dedicated 64gb plan |
03:24 | <millisa> | https://www.linode.com/pricing/ |
03:24 | <zwt> | ah |
03:25 | <zwt> | you right |
03:25 | <millisa> | gpu and shared 64gb plans too. |
03:25 | <zwt> | so we could have resized the disk |
03:25 | <millisa> | yep |
03:25 | <zwt> | right |
03:25 | <millisa> | still can |
03:25 | <millisa> | remove the disk from the profile, delete it, and you can resize into it |
03:25 | <millisa> | (assuming you've got nothing on it you want to keep and it's not mounted) |
03:26 | <millisa> | which I suppose that's another difference in block storage and the local storage - resizing the linode |
03:26 | <millisa> | If you resize a linode, it's going to move the local storage to new hardware. You end up waiting that transfer out and for large volumes, it can take hours |
03:26 | <zwt> | yes thats my problem |
03:26 | <millisa> | For a block storage volume, it won't increase the time of a linode resize since it's not local with the linode |
03:27 | <tom_> | !ops |
03:27 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/ |
03:27 | <zwt> | for 600GB it can take more |
03:27 | <zwt> | than just adding a new disk |
03:27 | <tom_> | !ops |
03:27 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/ |
03:28 | <zwt> | all right |
03:28 | <zwt> | thaank you very much @millisa |
03:28 | <millisa> | sure thing |
03:28 | <zwt> | I really appreciate |
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04:40 | <introom> | hi any ops here. just registered an account and is in review process. please help me on this. |
04:47 | <tom_> | !ops |
04:47 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/ |
04:47 | <tom_> | !ops |
04:47 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/ |
05:08 | <introom> | is upgrading the version of k8s on linode easy ? |
05:10 | <rsdehart> | tom_: is anything ok? |
05:10 | <rsdehart> | or are you just interested in abusing the bot? |
05:11 | <tom_> | I am fine |
05:11 | <tom_> | Thanks for asking |
05:11 | <rsdehart> | if you urgently need support, you should call or email |
05:11 | <rsdehart> | community chat isn't an official support venue |
05:12 | <tom_> | Ok |
05:12 | <rsdehart> | you can often find support, but it's not always guaranteed within any particular timeframe |
05:26 | <introom> | does linode has digitalocean doctl-ish tool so that I can update kube config with the tool directly? |
05:29 | <tom_> | Yes |
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05:54 | <linbot> | New news from community: Have an error in my SQL syntax <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21027> |
06:13 | <introom> | https://www.linode.com/docs/products/tools/cli/ isee |
06:18 | <keshist> | Computed Tomography |
06:20 | <introom> | linode-cli is not functionality-wise on par with doctl. |
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08:03 | <keshist> | heh |
08:05 | <keshist> | hi |
08:06 | <keshist> | whos here? |
08:14 | <@rgerke> | keshist: Hi! I will be right with you. |
08:16 | <@rgerke> | How can I help? |
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08:29 | <LouWestin> | !next |
08:29 | <linbot> | Another satisfied customer! NEXT! |
08:45 | <linbot> | New news from community: Nothing here <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21028> |
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09:05 | <linbot> | New news from community: Block storage cause high loads with rsync <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21029> |
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11:21 | <v0lksman> | any staff around that could take a look at this: 15114994 |
11:25 | <linbot> | New news from community: ssh-copy-id fails; ERROR: No identities found <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21030> |
11:26 | <@pwoods> | 👀 |
11:27 | <@pwoods> | taking a look, v0lksman |
11:28 | <v0lksman> | thx pwoods |
11:29 | <v0lksman> | unless you did something I think I may have fixed it but it doesn't make sense to me |
11:29 | <@pwoods> | I'm a little confused by this at first, too, tbh. |
11:29 | <v0lksman> | I had a txt record for the subdomain that wouldn't resolve...removed the txt record and it resolves the A record |
11:30 | <@pwoods> | ok, that explains why I'm confused, I think I was digging on it while changes were being made. |
11:30 | <v0lksman> | apologies |
11:30 | <@pwoods> | none needed! |
11:31 | <@pwoods> | I'm just glad I wasn't going as crazy as I thought I was. |
11:31 | <v0lksman> | well I can neither confirm or deny that |
11:31 | <@pwoods> | The voices said the same thing! |
11:32 | <v0lksman> | so is there some obscure rule about wildcards being affected by other record types? |
11:32 | <v0lksman> | I just put the txt record back and we are back to failing |
11:34 | <@pwoods> | v0lksman: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53223745/wildcard-dns-resolution-failed-when-adding-txt-record |
11:37 | <v0lksman> | funny exact same issue for the exact same reason (LetsEncrypt) but I'm not using CNAMEs at all |
11:41 | <Peng> | v0lksman: Wildcards replace names that do not exist. Names with records of other types exist. Empty non-terminals exist. So a TXT record at _acme-challenge.www.example.com blocks a *.example.com AAAA record from applying to www.example.com. |
11:42 | <v0lksman> | so I have to explicitly define subdomain.example.com and then add a CNAME for *.subdomain.example.com it seems |
11:43 | <v0lksman> | I always thought that the record type defined the scope of the record/wildcard |
11:44 | <v0lksman> | my solution seems to work...bit of a pain everytime I bring on a new developer I'll have to add a record but could be worse |
11:45 | <v0lksman> | add a wrapper with linode API access to adduser... :) |
11:46 | <@pwoods> | I think what Peng is saying is also said in this post: https://serverfault.com/questions/483576/is-a-wildcard-dns-record-bad-practice/824968 |
11:50 | <v0lksman> | awesome..thanks Peng and pwoods, still counter intuative that a TXT record being defined would affect an A record from resolving but DNS can be a fickle mistress so I'm not surprised...More surprised I've never hit this before. lol |
11:52 | <Peng> | FWIW: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1034#page-26 |
11:52 | <Peng> | If you think of DNS as a tree of names, it might be less unintuitive. But it's still an unintuitive footgun. |
11:56 | <v0lksman> | TIL makes sense in an odd kind of way for sure |
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12:37 | <grawity> | I feel like Linode's Domain Manager really adds a lot to the confusion here, by grouping everything based on type when DNS doesn't really work that way... |
12:39 | <nate> | define type? Cause most DNS managers I've ever worked with definitely section things by record type usually |
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12:40 | <grawity> | I think I've more commonly seen them ordered by name (FQDN), with the type as a 2nd column |
12:41 | <grawity> | I mean like this https://documentation.solarwinds.com/en/success_center/ipam/Content/Resources/Images/ipam-dns-zone-dns-records-2.png |
12:42 | <nate> | Does linode not do that anymore? I haven't used the DNS interface in the new cloud thing but I recall the old manager you had to select a specific domain first before editing any records |
12:42 | <nate> | now they just show you all your domains at once? o.O |
12:42 | <grawity> | we're talking about different things, it seems |
12:43 | <nate> | Maybe lol. I'll have to log in and see what you're talking about |
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13:08 | <dwfreed> | Within a zone, Linode groups all the A records into one section, all the TXT records into one section, etc |
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18:05 | <kharlan> | Anyway to turn off these backup messages? |
18:06 | <kharlan> | I want to lose my data! |
18:06 | <@pwoods> | kharlan: which backup messages? |
18:06 | <kharlan> | Oh, on the cloud portal asking me to enable linode backups. |
18:06 | <millisa> | they used to have a little X on them |
18:07 | <kharlan> | Yeah, it works but I'm assuming it's cookie based since a few days later it shows up again |
18:07 | <millisa> | account, settings, backup autoenrollment, turn it to enabled. no more messages! |
18:07 | <kharlan> | Oh! |
18:07 | <millisa> | (not what you really want) |
18:08 | <kharlan> | Noooo |
18:08 | <millisa> | but it *would* make the message go away |
18:09 | <kharlan> | Technically. |
18:09 | <Peng> | Does it enable backups on your existing Linodes? |
18:09 | <@pwoods> | hmm, I guess I'm experiencing the Cloud Manager differently. I'm not seeing any banners. I thought it was because I have the Managed Service active on my account, but removed that and still not seeing any. |
18:09 | <Peng> | Given its name, I always assumed that pref applied to new Linoeds but not existing ones |
18:09 | <Peng> | <- mostly an idle question |
18:09 | <millisa> | i dont think I've had the banner come up on ones i've X'd out of it |
18:10 | <millisa> | Peng: you're probably right. have 2 that i dont need backups on. will turn it on briefly and see. |
18:10 | <@pwoods> | ahh, I messed around with enough things to see it finally. |
18:10 | <kharlan> | I feel like I see them super often. It really doesn't matter lol, I was just curious if there was a way to disable it. |
18:11 | <millisa> | The toggle does not add backups to existing that dont have it. there is a little 'enable now' link though that will let you get the existing ones at the same time. it pops out one of those sidebars on the right. |
18:12 | <kharlan> | That's some risky business toggling buttons which shouldn't be toggled |
18:12 | <Peng> | !point millisa |
18:12 | <linbot> | Peng: Point given to the old and crusty millisa. (205) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 27) |
18:13 | <@pwoods> | checking the cookies in dev tools, can't determine which cookie it's connected to. |
18:13 | <millisa> | looked like this: https://ibin.co/5qXGPaaHF822.png |
18:19 | <millisa> | BackupsCtaDismissed = true |
18:21 | <millisa> | or at least, that's what I see get set when I hit the X |
18:21 | <millisa> | er see/get |
18:25 | <millisa> | somewhere around https://github.com/linode/manager/blob/develop/packages/manager/src/features/Backups/BackupsCTA.tsx#L74 and in https://github.com/linode/manager/blob/develop/packages/manager/src/utilities/storage.ts |
18:32 | <millisa> | this from 4 hours ago sounds like they are putting in a preference setting for it - https://github.com/linode/manager/commit/77af1019d1f90e2110688c48ac1bcfa571b38b41#diff-c83ea098231a863f1ce472e60a9ac7a01fe0d26dff40e32d545a348ce37f8b13 |
18:34 | <millisa> | i guess the discussion thread might be more useful https://github.com/linode/manager/pull/7342 |
18:43 | <kharlan> | Lol a discussion about line height. |
18:46 | <kharlan> | It seems like it hasn't been pushed yet? |
18:46 | <kharlan> | I guess they're going to be adding an individual user preference soon. |
18:51 | <millisa> | last manager update was a few days ago |
18:51 | <millisa> | https://developers.linode.com/changelog/ |
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19:30 | <devilspgd> | I love that I can follow development on the manager. More than once I've logged bugs, great to see when the bug is fixed. |
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19:51 | <Haider> | Hi |
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20:07 | <chesty> | !next |
20:07 | <linbot> | Another satisfied customer! NEXT! |
20:07 | <kharlan> | Haider... Hoider...Hodor... |
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