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00:04<nuevu>Ticket #15158458, if anyone ops care to look
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00:21<@mcivi>nuevu: taking a look at your ticket now
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00:28<goliathus>Hello everyone. Do you know where can I get bitchx? The off site is not working and other repos are giving me error when installing
00:41<nuevu>Thanks, mcivi.
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00:45<@mcivi>nuevu: you're welcome, you should be all set now
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02:21<linbot>New news from community: Server IP inactive <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21047>
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08:06<harjuu>hi! i'm using linode together with nextcloud (from snap) and i'm finding that i will be running out of space soon, i'm using the 25gb plan. does anyone know of a convenient way to use linodes block storage to add an external volume to nextcloud without having to move the entire nextcloud instance?
08:08<rsdehart>harjuu: forgive me if this isn't helpful, but I'm not familiar with the workings of nextcloud https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/use-block-storage-volume-with-nextcloud/
08:10<harjuu>rsdehart: thanks! yeah i did read that article. i didn't totally understand how that method worked and i wasn't sure if it was what i wanted.
08:12<rsdehart>this is a bit of a slow time in here
08:13<harjuu>i see. do you have any suggestions for where i could turn for some help on this?
08:17<rsdehart>harjuu: #nextcloud on Freenode has a lot of people in it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
08:17<harjuu>i'll give that a shot. thanks!
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08:17<rsdehart>good luck
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08:22<linbot>New news from blog: Linode GPU Expansion: New Instances in Singapore and Other Updates <https://www.linode.com/blog/gpu/linode-gpu-expansion-new-instances-in-singapore-and-other-updates/>
08:40<kharlan>They just need to change their "data" folder path by creating a symbolic link to a folder in the block storage mount. It's easier than changing config/database things.
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10:17<linbot>New news from community: How do I set up everything to run an e-mail in Outlook? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21048>
10:30<LouWestin>Interesting upgrade read regarding Let's Encrypt https://letsencrypt.org/2021/01/21/next-gen-database-servers.html
10:31<LouWestin>I wonder what the cost of such a server would be? The CPUs alone are what? $2000 usd?
10:33<kharlan>probably in the 10-20 grand range.
10:42<LouWestin>Newegg shows that the processor alone is $3,825. x 2 $7,650.
10:44<kharlan>yep, plus another 6-8 for those nvmes :p
10:50<LouWestin>Yep yep!
11:24<dwfreed>Keep in mind that they won't be paying retail prices
11:24<dwfreed>They might not have even paid anything
11:25<dwfreed>(ISRG is a 501c3, so if a company were to donate them servers, it'd be a tax write-off)
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11:59<LouWestin>Good point too dwfreed!
12:02<LouWestin>It's interesting to look at pricing and figure out what would xyz server hardware/configuration cost?
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12:38<Peng>I've been running "ping6 lish-atlanta.linode.com". Some pings take 2-3 seconds. Usually it's normal.
12:38<Peng>Maybe it's running on the server with 90% steal. :D
12:39<nuevu>Ha!
12:40<nuevu>mcivi helped with a live migration of that machine last night. Was pretty funny watching vmstat go from 40%+ on one report to 0% 5 seconds later.
12:41<Peng>Nice :D
12:42<nuevu>For what it's worth, from ~Dallas, I'm not seeing any pings to Atlanta lish taking longer than 60ms.
12:44<Peng>For me it seems to happen at least once every couple minutes
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12:59<nuevu>Peng: Can confirm I'm seeing some similar behavior via mtr. Rare high values near 3 seconds and ~1% dropped packets to the final hop over 1,000 seconds.
13:00<Peng>\o/
13:00<Peng>SSH is fast right now though. [shrug]
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13:02<Peng>Random guess: neighbor discovery packet loss? Does that retry after 1 second?
13:03<Peng>Random guess: Terrible steal, like I said before. Random guess: Literally anything else! What do I know.
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13:05<nuevu>Random guess: Load due to some crazy idiots ping flooding the poor server.
13:06<Peng>:D
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14:33<schlimig>I'm trying still to get a Galera cluster running using Ubuntu 18.04LTS and it's just failing every time. Is there anything Linode changes about the Ubuntu images or the kernel which could potentially be causing an issue with Galera?
14:40<hays>can i run crypto miniing in a linode or is that considered abuse
14:43<LouWestin>schlimig: can you give us specific logs that note the failure? You can post large amounts of text in pastbin https://pastebin.com/
14:44<LouWestin>hays: I'm 99 percent sure you cannot
14:44<schlimig>Sure, I'll just sanitise some data
14:45<Peng>hays: Check the AUP section about using excessive system resources. It's either implicitly or explicitly banned.
14:45<schlimig>Even on a dedicated GPU instance?
14:46<hays>Peng: i wonder if there is a way to keep it under control with systemd
14:53<schlimig>OK so I have created an Ubuntu18.04LTS from the Linode images, no changes to kernel, profile settings - just bog standard. Updated the machine. Firewalled (tried in various ways, ufw/iptables) the 3 nodes to be able to freely communicate incoming, default outgoing rule accept. I've followed this tutorial and others which are almost identical ( https://galeracluster.com/2020/05/installing-galera-cluster-4-with-mysql-8-on-ubuntu-18-04/ )
14:55<schlimig>I can bring up the first node, it reports that cluster size is 1. After a while, or a reboot, it fails to come back up and I get a "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" error. Sometimes bringing up other nodes makes the cluster size go up, other times nothing. Here is the log from node 1: https://pastebin.com/NQUmJWix
14:56<hays>Peng: do you think its ok if i set CPUQuota nice and low like 25% ?
14:56<schlimig>I've tried this even with no firewall at all, still no dice - same issues. I can SSH/ping freely between the nodes, so connectivity seems to be fine.
14:56<hays>i really don't want to cause problems, just testing something
14:57<schlimig>I've sanitised the private IP addresses but I can confirm they're all correctly set.
14:58<millisa>just to be sure - the nodes are in the same dc?
14:58<schlimig>Yes
14:59<millisa>binding on 33060 intentional?
14:59<millisa>line 107 in that pastebin: "2021-02-09T18:53:59.334395Z 0 [System] [MY-011323] [Server] X Plugin ready for connections. Socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqlx.sock' bind-address: '::' port: 33060"
15:00<schlimig>Nothing I set, that's how it comes from the fresh Galera install and I haven't altered the mysql port or anything
15:03<schlimig>With the exception of the following and what the guide I linked to shows, the only configuration aside from firewall I've done is this: https://pastebin.com/sQKGPymV added to /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf
15:03<Peng>You know that private IP addresses are accessible to other Linode customers in the same data center, right? You can't run stuff without restrictions.
15:04<schlimig>The only time I tried without firewall was purely just to see if the firewall was causing the problem - it was not
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18:31<linbot>New news from community: Will linode support rhel in future? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21049>
18:37<millisa>Not directly related to RHEL from that post, but for anyone interested, 'Alma' (one of the centos forks shooting to keep upstream compat with rhel8) had their beta iso 3 or 4 days ago
18:38<millisa>well, 8 days ago. time no longer has meaning. https://blog.almalinux.org/introducing-almalinux-beta-a-community-driven-replacement-for-centos/
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18:41<nuevu>!point millisa
18:41<linbot>nuevu: Point given to the old and crusty millisa. (209) (Biggest fan: mcintosh, total: 27)
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18:44<millisa>(i have no opinion on them; cloudlinux dumped them a million to work on it. i don't know that cloudlinux didn't dump everyone who wanted a shot the same amount since it's in their interest)
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19:11<linbot>New news from community: How to install the bitnami/postgresql-ha Helm chart on Linode kubernetes? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21050>
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19:41<linbot>New news from community: Object Storage Bucket Notification <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/21051>
19:42<nuevu>Starlink pre-orders are open to a larger area now for later in the year: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/spacex-starlink-now-taking-pre-orders-for-service-in-mid-to-late-2021/
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19:53<bob>hi
19:53<nuevu>Howdy
19:54<bob>I a thinking of hosting a live camera and a membership site
19:54<bob>is this something you can help with?
19:54<rsdehart>they can provide you with the hardware
19:54<rsdehart>Linode provides unmanaged servers
19:55<bob>do they do any developers?
19:55<bob>provide*
19:55<HedgeMage>No, you have to do your own development.
19:55<HedgeMage>Or hire a dev team.
19:55<rsdehart>a wild HedgeMage appears
19:56<bob>what hardware do you think i need?
19:56<bob>whats a wild hedemage?
19:56<rsdehart>It depends (tm)
19:56<rsdehart>you can start with the smallest plan and scale up quickly and easily if you need to
19:56<HedgeMage>Well, I recommend you start with a sturdy enclosure and lots of bamboo.
19:57<HedgeMage>After all, the pandacam is the only cam worth subscribing.
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19:57<rsdehart>!next
19:57<linbot>Another satisfied customer! NEXT!
19:57<rsdehart>!point HedgeMage
19:57<linbot>rsdehart: Point given to hedgemage. (1)
20:00<Peng_>"whats a wild hedemage?" "It depends (tm)"
20:00<rsdehart>I keep hearing what sounds like a ringing phone in my house but no one else is home
20:00<kharlan>Do you smell oranges?
20:00<rsdehart>only when oranges are nearby
20:01<rsdehart>Peng_: yeah, unfair of bob to intercept my answer with another question. But funny
20:27<HedgeMage>Somehow, I don't think he was enthusiastic about my pandacam suggestion.
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21:27<LouWestin>rsdehart: Regarding hearing the phone ringing, not sure. Maybe your mind is playing tricks?
21:33<kharlan>It's the beginning of a horror film.
21:36<LouWestin>There was a scary story My baby sitter read where some kids keep getting a call from someone. Long story short he was in the house and was calling them on the second phone line.
21:41<LouWestin>Found it! The Babysitter and the Man Upstairs
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