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00:44<LouWestin>!next
00:44<linbot>Another satisfied customer! NEXT!
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01:29<el>w-why does the website think im in japan?
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07:28<culllen01>hello
07:28<culllen01>anyone help me here
07:28<culllen01>?
07:33<culllen01>_brian avoss dmonschein jackley jfred
07:36<ckaczynski>How can we help?
07:38<@pwoods>greetings culllen01
07:39<culllen01>ckaczynski i have problem with my account linode
07:40<culllen01>i lost access to it
07:40<@pwoods>!ops
07:40<linbot>Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: https://www.linode.com/support/
07:40<@pwoods>Oh wait, ckaczynski lost their ops status.
07:41<culllen01>pwoods can u help me please?
07:47<culllen01>i change the email and password of my account because someone change my gmail password thats why , i disable gmail for securite of my linode and after that i lost access to my linode account
07:52<@pwoods>culllen01: have you reached out via email to support@linode.com yet?
07:53<culllen01>i write to them yesterday and still no answer until now
07:57<culllen01>thats why i came here
08:02<@pwoods>Gotcha. I'll follow up in our private message.
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10:52<linbot>New news from community: Combine two volume groups <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22356>
11:32<linbot>New news from community: Logging in via Lish super glitch <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22357>
11:58<linbot>New news from status: Emergency Maintenance - Object Storage (Singapore) <https://status.linode.com/incidents/xgprtyd0mx5y>
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12:12<linbot>New news from community: 4G double NAT - Expose home LAN machine? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22358>
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12:56<Nivex>"double NAT" is an insult. "triple NAT" is blasphemy.
12:57<file>truth
12:57*dwfreed hands Nivex quadruple nat
12:57<millisa>me hands dwfreed quintuple nat to hand to nivex
12:58<Peng>I used to have double NAT because I was lazy :D
12:58<Nivex>you bastards! You've just doomed humanity!
12:58<millisa>one day i'll get the hang or irc
12:58<millisa>and type right.
12:59<Peng>OP could use Tailscale, though, right? It would probably relay but it would work.
13:00<grawity>outbound wireguard tunnel to the linode -- or practically any VPN that supports keepalives, but wg is easiest
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13:00<elvan>The following NEW packages will be installed: apache2 apache2-bin apache2-data apache2-utils libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap liblua5.2-0 ssl-cert 0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1,729 kB of archives. After this operation, 6,997 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
13:00<Nivex>VPN out on v4 and route a v6 subnet in
13:00<millisa>there's that cloudflare thing that does it too
13:00<Nivex>basically what grawity said
13:01<elvan>hi what does that mean
13:01<Peng>elvan: What does what mean?
13:01<grawity>(I still use IPsec, but now that ROS7 supports wireguard...)
13:02<file>mmm wireguard
13:02<elvan>i made apt update and i wrote a commabd about apache, putty showed it to me
13:02<Nivex>I decomm'd the last of the OpenVPN at home a couple weeks ago. All Wireguard now.
13:02<react>It literally says it: "the following new packages will be installed"
13:03<elvan>i m watching a video about it, am i doing something wrong
13:03<Peng>elvan: What command did you run? What are you trying to accomplish? Is there a specific part of the output you have questions about?
13:03<grawity>what command did you run, and what did you *expect* it to do
13:04<elvan>in video it tries to show my linode can be opened from everywhere very fast.
13:04<elvan>and he wrote these commands "apt update"
13:04<grawity>Nivex: sadly still no config negotiation (IP, DNS, etc) in the "standard" windows or smartphone wg clients -- would make me uncomfortable to have 100s of users carrying static configs
13:05<elvan>and "apt upgrage apache2"
13:06<Nivex>grawity: we were just having a similar conversation in #ipv6:ungleich.ch the other day. I'd like to see wg auto-assign IPv6 lladdrs based on public key so you know your peer IP address with no other a priori config. From there you can make a standard UDP/TCP/HTTP/pony request over the secure link to fetch the rest of your config.
13:06<grawity>so for students I'm setting up a custom xmlrpc server for the "openvpn connect" app
13:07<elvan>he is trying to install default web server to show linode is accessable from every public internet
13:07<Peng>Installing something by using "upgrade" (or "upgrage") instead of "install"?
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13:09<elvan>commands are "apt update" and "apt install apache2"
13:09<Toba>upgrage refers to increasing the size of your shed slash warehouse slash garage
13:09<elvan>sorry peng i wrote the command wrong
13:10<elvan>last one is correct
13:11<Nivex>from the apt manual: upgrade is used to install available upgrades of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources configured via sources.list(5). New packages will be installed if required to satisfy dependencies, but existing packages will never be removed. If an upgrade for a package requires the removal of an installed package the upgrade for this package isn't
13:11<Nivex>performed.
13:12<Nivex>so while it's semantically a bit odd, it's valid an effectively equivalent to install in this case.
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13:14<millisa>just tried it on an ubuntu18.04 system. and it does!
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13:23<elvan>when i connect putty it is saying New release "20.04.3 LTS" available, Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
13:23<elvan>is it necessary to do that update
13:25<grawity>not strictly necessary, depends on whether your current version is still supported
13:28<elvan>hm thanks
13:33*Peng posts about Tailscale
13:33*Peng gets Markdown wrong the first try
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15:53<linbot>New news from community: 24h with no response from support, and my linode is unaccessible <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22359>
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16:13<linbot>New news from community: How to preserve mtime when uploading to Object Storage using s3cmd? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22360>
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17:33<linbot>New news from community: How do I query an instance metadata from a process on Linode instance? <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22361>
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19:04<linbot>New news from community: Accessing Linode Secure Server NextCloud instance <https://www.linode.com/community/questions/22362>
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