| 00:00 | <yebyen> | heh, just let it figure it out on its own beyond the few "Simpsons is clearly more important than Twilight Zone" type things? |
| 00:00 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | ooh, recording |
| 00:00 | <Chutt> | most of my recordings are timeslot ones, though |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | and no error death |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | they are? most of mine are "Record it whenever it's on" |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | there's not much overlap |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | yeah, i dunno |
| 00:01 | <yebyen> | there would be if I got channel 12 (FOX Rochester) working (versus 6, FOX Buffalo) |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | all the stuff i want to record is only on once a week anyway |
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| 00:01 | <yebyen> | I'm a rerun master :D |
| 00:01 | <yebyen> | Seinfeld, Frasier, Simpsons, The Outer Limits |
| 00:02 | <cowbud_> | where does myth save its temp recording files? |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | heh, well, i have access to a complete seinfeld collection if i ever want to watch that =) |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | cowbud, it's in the config file. |
| 00:02 | <yebyen> | Chutt: I find this more convenient :) |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | pretty much everything is in the config files |
| 00:03 | * yebyen | debates between changing the fonts to be bigger or buying a bigger tv |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | font sizes are also in there =) |
| 00:03 | <yebyen> | i know |
| 00:03 | <yebyen> | but getting a bigger TV is appealing |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | yeah, i know, but i was just babbling |
| 00:04 | <yebyen> | Ensign Ro' |
| 00:04 | <yebyen> | HEH |
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| 00:05 | <Chutt> | hmm? |
| 00:05 | <yebyen> | episode of Star Trek |
| 00:05 | <yebyen> | incidentally, I spotted Star Trek: Generations will be on sooner or later |
| 00:05 | <yebyen> | it's set to record |
| 00:05 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | maybe that jeremy oddo guy will stop bitching to the mailing list now that it's confirmed that all his problems are soundcard drivers. |
| 00:08 | * yebyen | changes his crontab mythfilldatabase to user mythtv |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | ok, what do you record |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | the debs should've set that up |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | Chutt: they do? |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | oh :) |
| 00:08 | <Chutt> | what i record? |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | nightly? |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | what do you |
| 00:09 | <Chutt> | let's see |
| 00:09 | <yebyen> | hmm |
| 00:09 | <yebyen> | mythweb's recording options seem to be out of date |
| 00:09 | <yebyen> | no "Record every time it's on this channel" |
| 00:09 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | both CSI shows, 24, l&o, l&o:ci, enterprise, junkyard wars, firefly, john doe, and robbery homicide division |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | my wife makes me record raymond, that 70's show, and friends |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | channel 24 has the new Twilight Zone |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | where channel 59 has the old |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | and i'm interested in the new |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | sorry, that's in the mythweb README :p |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | and I don't have UPN listings, so I can't record enterprise |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | err, the new twilight show is on upn, no? |
| 00:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: heh, I haven't read'me yet |
| 00:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmm |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | its on right after enterprise |
| 00:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: apparently TNT as well |
| 00:11 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 00:11 | <yebyen> | and TNT doesn't have enterprise |
| 00:11 | <paperclip> | you need a click-thru that tells people about all the docs/resources.. =) |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | i just put out mythweb because i got tired of waiting on thor to update things =) |
| 00:12 | <yebyen> | Chutt: think if I added a new provider number and some channels under it (in the same timewarner.xmltv file I've got now) it would integrate those channels? :) |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | i have no idea |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | ah, neat |
| 00:12 | <yebyen> | i'm thinking of trying it |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | qt 3.1 was released |
| 00:14 | <yebyen> | Chutt: I think i'm going to bother the xmltv mailing list, see what they can tell me about making my own listings |
| 00:14 | <yebyen> | HEH |
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| 00:14 | <Chutt> | go for it |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | they seem to be pretty decent guys |
| 00:14 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what's the reason for buf vis a vis buf2 in the player? |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | mainly, the rtjpeg stuf |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | stuff |
| 00:15 | <mdz_> | they seem to be the same size, and one or the other is used depending on the compression |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:16 | <mdz_> | but the compression can't change in the middle of the stream, can it? |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | it can |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | for rtjpeg |
| 00:16 | <mdz_> | well great |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | tell you what, you get direct rendering working for just the mpeg4 stuff |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | and don't worry 'bout the rtjpeg |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | and i'll fix that |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | are L frames pretty uncommon? |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | very uncommon |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | if they happen a lot, I could optimize it so that it reused the same Xv buffer |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | won't bother then |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | basically, it's just using buf2 as a temporary buffer to decompress the lzo compressed stuff to |
| 00:23 | <yebyen> | Chutt: well, my cool idea disn't work right away, so I'm firing off an email... heh |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | now, get to work prettying up mythweb |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | or, doing me a new webpage |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | either or |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | your choice :p |
| 00:25 | <yebyen> | i've gotta go to sleep, so I can wake up at 5:00 and look at meteors |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 00:25 | <yebyen> | and i've gotta get college application stuff done by thanksgiving |
| 00:25 | <yebyen> | after that, i'm free |
| 00:25 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | bah more |
| 00:31 | <yebyen> | *sends message to ed@membled* |
| 00:31 | <yebyen> | alright, time to sleep instantly and now. |
| 00:32 | <yebyen> | it's way too late to be up and get up at 5 HEH |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey, what's the download count? |
| 00:40 | <mdz_> | 135 downloads from 73 unique IPs |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | neat |
| 00:44 | <nyquiljer> | mdz_: thanks for helpin with the deb installation. |
| 00:44 | <nyquiljer> | i gotta go to bed, night all |
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| 00:46 | <Chutt> | g'nite |
| 01:01 | <mdz_> | I think I'm going to have to write mythplay in order to test this thing |
| 01:14 | <Tuscany> | chut |
| 01:15 | <Tuscany> | well, the 0.9 drivers fixed the problem. they also introduced a new one. the colors are all washed out |
| 03:41 | <witten> | where can I find a list of mythtv keys? |
| 03:41 | <paperclip> | keys? |
| 03:41 | <witten> | yah, keypresses |
| 03:41 | <witten> | like, p = pause, etc |
| 03:41 | <paperclip> | they must be in the docs.. |
| 03:41 | <paperclip> | if not there.. use the source luke.. |
| 03:41 | <witten> | heh |
| 03:42 | <witten> | README.gz:Now would be a good time to look over 'keys.txt' for a list of all the |
| 03:42 | <witten> | I can't seem to find a keys.txt |
| 03:43 | <paperclip> | hmm.. |
| 03:43 | <paperclip> | how'd you install? |
| 03:43 | <witten> | debs |
| 03:44 | <paperclip> | maybe you can find it in the browsable source on the website.. |
| 03:44 | <paperclip> | or grab the tarball for offline reading =) |
| 03:44 | <witten> | yah, I'm looking now |
| 03:44 | <witten> | hehe |
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| 07:38 | <pastorJ> | Hello paperclib again! |
| 07:40 | <paperclip> | heya |
| 07:40 | <paperclip> | you should check out the site in the topic.. |
| 07:40 | <paperclip> | the screenshots blew me away.. |
| 07:40 | <pastorJ> | Yeah that is definetly the program I intend to use... I making a linuxtainment center |
| 07:41 | <paperclip> | so i've been in here for a few days pestering everyone about hardware.. |
| 07:41 | <pastorJ> | DVR + netjuke oggplayer/streamer |
| 07:41 | <pastorJ> | I want to get a firewire drive for it too... big one.. then I can take the shows with me (external) since my lappy has firewire port |
| 07:41 | <paperclip> | yeah.. it's got my attention =) |
| 07:42 | <pastorJ> | It would be awesome... I am trying to think of a goodlooking setup case to stick it in too |
| 07:43 | <paperclip> | there's one on the site.. |
| 07:43 | <pastorJ> | And remotely setting it to play with webinterface... makes me quiver with delight |
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| 09:14 | <_HoL_> | a hoy hoy |
| 09:14 | <_HoL_> | anyone awake? :) |
| 09:14 | <pastorJ> | Barely |
| 09:18 | <_HoL_> | hehe |
| 09:18 | <_HoL_> | say anyone used the mythtv on a via epia motherboard? |
| 09:20 | <_HoL_> | i noticed mythtv was going towards having more horsepower for the live tv function |
| 09:21 | <_HoL_> | i was reading on the epia and it's relatively low power so less fans and noise |
| 09:23 | <_HoL_> | anyone know if mythtv will incorporate the wintv pvr hardware encoding so live tv is possible without so much horsepower? |
| 09:24 | <_HoL_> | even my piii 800 heats up nicely enough i can't even imagine a 2ghz chip |
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| 12:49 | <tusncay0> | chut, you there? |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 12:52 | <tusncay0> | as it turns out it wasn't bttv 0.9 that solved my problem with the "/dev/video busy" issue. It turns out the the external script I'm running with ExternalChannelCommand is the culprit |
| 12:53 | <tusncay0> | !/bin/sh |
| 12:53 | <tusncay0> | echo "changing to $1" |
| 12:53 | <tusncay0> | /usr/local/bin/channel.pl $1 & |
| 12:53 | <tusncay0> | that's a copy of the script. it forks off a perl script and returns immediately. for some reason if I comment out the last line the problem goes away |
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| 13:15 | <mdz> | probably it's inheriting an open file descriptor on /dev/video |
| 13:16 | <mdz> | /dev/dsp likely has the same problem |
| 13:30 | <tusncay0> | hmm...wierd. the only thing channel.pl does is to make a call to the lirc command "rc" to transmit ir codes to the cable box |
| 13:36 | <mdz> | what is the problem exactly? |
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| 13:39 | <tusncay0> | well, when the external program is called to change the channel mythtv cannot open the /dev/video device |
| 13:39 | <tusncay0> | I get a "device busy" message. If I comment out the execution of the perl script the problem goes away |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | // NOTE: if you get a strange compiler error on the line with "None", |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | // it's probably because you're trying to include X11, which |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | // has a mess of #defines in it. Put the messy X11 includes |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | // *AFTER* the nice clean Qt includes. |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | that's cute |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | thanks, Qt |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | that comment is much better than just changing your headers not to conflict with X |
| 13:42 | <mdz> | because nobody would ever use X and Qt together |
| 13:45 | <lichen> | anyone know of any work on a PVR for HDTV? |
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| 13:49 | <lichen> | uhm.. Qt doesn't look free according to www.trolltech.com ... am i missing something here? |
| 13:50 | <s3fL|d13r> | wow.. just did some testings here.. quality at 255 / 640x480 with 640x480 tv-out res was incredible |
| 13:51 | <s3fL|d13r> | very close to the original (from rf) quality |
| 13:51 | <s3fL|d13r> | i wonder if having it displayed at 800x600 tv-out would improve anything? |
| 13:53 | <s3fL|d13r> | does mpeg4 offer better quality? |
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| 13:55 | <lichen> | oh wow nevermind, i finally found the free version on the site |
| 13:56 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't be compiling qt yourself |
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| 14:33 | <s3fL|d13r> | humm after watching tv for a bit on mythtv i got a red screen.. i remember reading on this somewhere, does anyone recall what causes it? |
| 14:38 | <lichen> | does myth use V4L 1 or 2? |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | 1 |
| 14:39 | <lichen> | cool, im assuming that works great with the G400 + RainbowRunner? as far as i can tell it does |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | i dunno, probably |
| 14:42 | <s3fL|d13r> | chutt: do you know of someone that had the same problem i got? or this was a nvtv problem.. i cant remember if i read about it on nvtv or mythtv mailing list archive |
| 14:42 | <lichen> | so what kina quality does this actually have, is it comparable to a real set top box? |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | what problem? |
| 14:44 | <s3fL|d13r> | after some minutes of watching tv on a channel |
| 14:45 | <s3fL|d13r> | the screen turned red |
| 14:45 | <Chutt> | i've never seen anything about that before |
| 14:45 | <s3fL|d13r> | i then quited mythtv and it went back to normal |
| 14:45 | <s3fL|d13r> | weird.. it must've been nvtv then |
| 14:48 | <lichen> | anycomment on the quality? just tell me it looks good and is watchable and then ill decide to put forth a little bit of effort into this :) |
| 14:48 | <s3fL|d13r> | argh, screensaver it seems |
| 14:48 | <s3fL|d13r> | sorry |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | lichen, why don't you try it and see? |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | quality is always subjective |
| 14:49 | <lichen> | so compare it to something... like have you guys seen tivo? is it close to that? |
| 14:50 | <s3fL|d13r> | well.. at 640x480 / rtjpeg the quality here is very close to the original signal quality |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | there's different encoders |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | different quality levels |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | there's even a lossless encoder, if you've got the disk speed to use it |
| 14:51 | <s3fL|d13r> | chutt: does mpeg4 offer improved quality over rtjpeg? |
| 14:51 | <lichen> | oh wow.. well, thats good enough for me i would say :) |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | smaller/higher quality, generally |
| 14:51 | <lichen> | i can stand some loss, i just want to make sure its at least worthwhile... have people gotten it to like a totally useable status, so you can just record your shows and watch tv without having to worry about whether or not its like actually going to work or not? :) |
| 14:51 | <s3fL|d13r> | nice.. ill try it out |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | lichen, of course |
| 14:52 | <s3fL|d13r> | what is the lossless encoder ? i thought there was only mpeg4/rtjpeg ? |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | libavcodec added a huffyuv encoder/decoder recently |
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| 15:01 | <Markie> | is Isaac here? |
| 15:01 | <Markie> | is anybody here? :^) |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:02 | <Chutt> | i just use vim to write code in, btw |
| 15:03 | <Markie> | thanks, thats #1 :^) |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | just got that email |
| 15:03 | <Markie> | one more. |
| 15:03 | <Markie> | in mythfrontend, |
| 15:03 | <Markie> | in RunMenu, you do a diag->setCallback(TVMenuCallback, context) |
| 15:04 | <Markie> | now, i'm an X programmer, but not a QT programmer |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | there's nothing qt about that |
| 15:04 | <Markie> | normally, you do "callback function, callback action" |
| 15:04 | <Markie> | well, i saw thet it just sets the callback variable |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | that's the function, and data to pass to that function |
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| 15:05 | <Markie> | is sets callback to the function |
| 15:05 | <Markie> | yes.. |
| 15:06 | <Markie> | i guess i'm trying to figure out when/for what reason is the callback balled? |
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| 15:06 | <Chutt> | it's called whenever the user selects an action in the menu |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | the menu code is in libs/libmyth/themedmenu.* |
| 15:06 | <Markie> | yea |
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| 15:07 | <Markie> | it goes to the callback if theres no EXEC, upmenu, or MENU command |
| 15:08 | <Chutt> | right |
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| 15:08 | <Markie> | (i'm just trying to follow the flow and understand it all) |
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| 15:08 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:10 | <Markie> | so runmenu sets the initial callback to TVMenuCallback, then draws the themed window (diag->show) and pops it up, diag->exec |
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| 15:12 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:14 | <Markie> | in the new ThemedMenu, it parses out the theme file, sets up the buttons, assigns the action to the button via addButton, and then lets qt handle the events |
| 15:14 | <Markie> | (via keypressevent) |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:15 | <Markie> | so i'm trinyg to add changing themes on the fly, and as a test want to hit F1 to change to the "liquid" theme |
| 15:16 | <Markie> | so i added an entry in ThemedMenu::keyPressEvent |
| 15:16 | <Markie> | case Key_F1 |
| 15:17 | <Markie> | then i need to basically reload the theme, do a draw and exec again |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | well, i don't think you'd need to do the exec |
| 15:17 | <Markie> | well i'm torn if I should tear down the menu, and build it all from scratch |
| 15:18 | <Markie> | or just create a new one and not worry about the old one |
| 15:18 | <Chutt> | tear it down and reparse from inside the themedmenu class |
| 15:19 | <Markie> | i.e. in the keypress even, call the destructor on the current themedmenu, and then load up the theme, and call the themedmenu constructor again |
| 15:19 | <Markie> | yep |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | err, no |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | you can't quite do that |
| 15:19 | <Markie> | why not? |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | in the keypresshandler, you can't call the class's destructor |
| 15:20 | <Markie> | oh duh |
| 15:20 | <Markie> | so set a variable |
| 15:20 | <Markie> | and do it outside? |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | you can't delete something out from under it |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | naw, just delete all the data the parser setup |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | then change the theme name and start over |
| 15:21 | <Markie> | what do you mean start over? |
| 15:21 | <Markie> | start over from where? |
| 15:21 | <Chutt> | the parsing |
| 15:21 | <Markie> | parseMenu ? |
| 15:21 | <Markie> | perseSettings |
| 15:21 | <Chutt> | something like tha |
| 15:21 | <Markie> | hrm.. |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | parseSettings() |
| 15:22 | <Markie> | ok..so at least i'm on the right track and it looks like theres no one-line change somewhere that i'm oblivious to :^) |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:23 | <Markie> | but i think in the end, figuring out how to do that will be good, cause that'll lend it self to doing lots of other on-the-fly UI changes |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | all the rest of em just need ThemeWidget() recalled |
| 15:23 | <Markie> | huh? |
| 15:24 | <Chutt> | the menu's the only complicated thing |
| 15:24 | <Markie> | (i'm not up to theme widget yet :^) ) |
| 15:24 | <Chutt> | the rest of the qt dialogs |
| 15:24 | <Chutt> | that get themed, currently |
| 15:24 | <Markie> | gotchya |
| 15:24 | <Markie> | yea, thats what seemd to be kinda weird.. |
| 15:24 | <lichen> | hey so im wanting to setup a box for mythtv... im very familiar with linux and all that, but not very experienced when it comes to X/qt programming, am i going to have trouble? |
| 15:24 | <Markie> | the main menu is quite hardcoaded |
| 15:24 | <Markie> | the sub menus are modular |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | lichen, just use debian, and there's debs for everything |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | markie, hardcoded? |
| 15:25 | <Markie> | lichen: no programmign needed :^) it has a pretty easy setup |
| 15:25 | <Chutt> | it's just as modular as any of the other menus |
| 15:25 | <Markie> | umm... |
| 15:25 | <lichen> | hmm.. alright, ive used slackware all my life, but ive always wantede to try debian, i guess this will be my chance :) |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | it's really the easiest way to get everything running quickly |
| 15:26 | <Markie> | i guess i cant explain it..i just gotta look at it more |
| 15:26 | <Chutt> | xmltv is a bitch to get running |
| 15:27 | <Markie> | yea it is |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | but since there's debs, that all goes away |
| 15:27 | <Markie> | i'd says of everything ,thats the hardest |
| 15:27 | <lichen> | thats what grabs the information and puts it into the mysql database? |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | well, it grabs the info |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | there's a program in mythtv that parses the xml that xmltv generates and dumps it into the db |
| 15:27 | <lichen> | where does it grab all the programming from? |
| 15:27 | <Chutt> | depends |
| 15:28 | <Chutt> | in the US/Canada, from zap2it.com |
| 15:29 | <Markie> | so does zap2it know about xmltv? and do they have a problem with it? |
| 15:29 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 15:29 | <lichen> | i dont get it, why would a prgram that just grabs a bunch of programming information and puts it into some xml file be so difficult? |
| 15:30 | <Chutt> | lichen, because reliably parsing large webpages is semi difficult :p |
| 15:30 | <Markie> | cause screen scrapes |
| 15:30 | <lichen> | im surprised there aren't already programming guides out there that offer an xml version |
| 15:30 | <lichen> | you would figure tvguide.com would or something |
| 15:30 | <lichen> | that would just make life too pleasant |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | a lot of the other grabbers for other countries have something like that |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | they just download pre-generated xml files that are already in the right format |
| 15:31 | <Markie> | Chutt: how are you creating the .pro files with qmake? when i try doing it, it doesnt include the right stuff |
| 15:32 | <Chutt> | which .pro files? |
| 15:32 | <Chutt> | most of them are edited |
| 15:32 | <Markie> | umm...for the programs |
| 15:32 | <lichen> | if i get this working ill start development on an HDTV portion of it :) |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | lichen, too bad there are no hdtv cards that work in linux |
| 15:33 | <Markie> | like mythepg |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | why are you redoing the .pro files? |
| 15:33 | <lichen> | really? i was under the impression that there was? are you positive about that? my friend has research the topic somewhat and i could have sworn i gathered that there were |
| 15:33 | <Markie> | cause I made a new directory, MythVideo |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | i'm 100% positive |
| 15:33 | <Markie> | and MythSettings |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | you need to edit them manually |
| 15:34 | <Markie> | ok |
| 15:34 | <Markie> | thanks |
| 15:34 | <lichen> | well shucks... ill code the drivers then ;) |
| 15:34 | <Markie> | heh |
| 15:35 | <Markie> | i got a creative digital VCR that still has no drivers for linux |
| 15:35 | <Markie> | hardware MPEG support..down the drain! |
| 15:38 | <Markie> | i assume theres no plans on making a SVGALIB or non-x version, right? |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:39 | <Markie> | one of these days.. |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | things may work with the qt/embedded stuff, though |
| 15:39 | <Markie> | ahh |
| 15:39 | <Markie> | i know SDL can do X/non X natively |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | yeah, but |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | i like having a full featured widget set =) |
| 15:40 | <Markie> | yea..i just hate the overhead to just watch TV :&) |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | if you've got the cpu and ram and everything to compress video in real time |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | the additional overhead required by x is minimal |
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| 15:41 | <Markie> | true.. |
| 15:42 | <Markie> | i've got it stripped down as much as possible now, i.e. it runs X, no gnome/kde crap, just twm |
| 15:42 | <Markie> | i tired running it without a window manager, but cause the live tv is a seperate app, it wasnt focusing the keyboard input |
| 15:43 | <Markie> | i've got the new maxtor 250G hard drive....i can store LOTS of shows! :^) |
| 15:44 | <mdz> | that's a big drive |
| 15:45 | <nevertheless> | hui |
| 15:45 | <nevertheless> | :-) |
| 15:45 | <Markie> | yea, i'm happy. i also have the 160G and 120G drives |
| 15:45 | <Markie> | so i have over half a terrabyte for my video server! |
| 15:45 | <Markie> | woo hoo!! |
| 15:46 | <Markie> | I think i'm addicted |
| 15:47 | <nevertheless> | Im on my way buying a setup for mythtv, i hope a xp 2000+ is enaugh for that, but HDD are quite expensive right now |
| 15:48 | <Markie> | i got a P-4 1.8 and it runs quite nice |
| 15:49 | <Markie> | not 100% perfect, everynow and then there'll be a little skip in the audio |
| 15:49 | <nevertheless> | at which resolution? |
| 15:49 | <Markie> | but i think i blame that more on linux/v4l/alsa |
| 15:49 | <Markie> | umm..whatevers the default |
| 15:49 | <nevertheless> | 480x480 only is defaul |
| 15:49 | <nevertheless> | t |
| 15:50 | <nevertheless> | but its really unbelievable, what this project has gone to since late april :-) |
| 15:50 | <Markie> | i havent played around with it too much, but like i said it think it's some other libraries/drivers |
| 15:50 | <Markie> | i dont think the resolution would make a difference |
| 15:51 | <Markie> | oh i did try something really kool..do the mpeg4 compression and make the compression really low, like 5 :^) |
| 15:51 | <Markie> | it's all blocky :^) |
| 15:52 | <Markie> | one of these days i wanna incorporate effectv http://effectv.sourceforge.net/ into mythtv |
| 15:52 | <Markie> | add them as filtering modules |
| 15:52 | <Markie> | that'll be neat |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:54 | <Markie> | :^) |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | well, it already does support video filters |
| 15:55 | <Markie> | yea, i saw... |
| 15:55 | <Markie> | i just gotta go down my list |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 15:55 | <Markie> | the predator effectv one is kool |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | someone needs to post about mythtv everytime someone posts about freevo on /. |
| 15:55 | <mdz> | Chutt: there's something to be said for a catchy name |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | you mean a name that'll get them in trouble eventually? :p |
| 15:56 | <mdz> | if mythtv were called freevo, it would probably get more press :-) |
| 15:56 | <mdz> | Chutt: did you get my doc patches? |
| 15:56 | <Markie> | well, people did mention mythtv on the alienware media server topic |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:56 | <Markie> | i used to call mine TNG - Tivo Next Generation |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | i'll apply the faq patch, and send the other one along to the guy that's doing all the docs |
| 15:57 | <Markie> | actually, my $.02 is that freevo and mythtv compbines |
| 15:57 | <mdz> | Chutt: so my tree is completely broken now |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | wwhat'd you do to it? |
| 15:57 | <Markie> | freevo is all about playing mpegs/divx..etc |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | oh, nm |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | i know what you did =) |
| 15:57 | <mdz> | Chutt: not the parts I modified, of course, those are fine. but now the rest of the tree breaks due to that ridiculous Qt/X11 header crap |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | like i said, just pass back the actual xv buffers, not the image =) |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | make init return a vector<unsigned char *> or something |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | the X11 headers _do_ suck, though |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | they define loads of crap |
| 15:58 | <Markie> | ohh.....question....the qhole "vector" definitions.. |
| 15:58 | <Markie> | is that a Qt thing? |
| 15:59 | <mdz> | that doesn't help; Xv needs to be initialized earlier so that it can get the buffers for the decoder |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | no, that's c++ |
| 15:59 | <mdz> | I have already done that part |
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| 15:59 | <Chutt> | mdz, ah |
| 15:59 | <mdz> | so it needs to live in NuppelVideoPlayer |
| 15:59 | <mdz> | and so NuppelVideoPlayer.h needs XJ.h... |
| 15:59 | <mdz> | maybe I can just forward declare it |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | you should be able to just forward declare the class |
| 16:00 | <mdz> | well, hell, it already is :-) |
| 16:00 | <Markie> | ok..(i'm a C guy) |
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| 16:01 | <Markie> | i tried looking online for vector stuff with c++ and i couldnt find anything |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | like, what it is, how to use it? |
| 16:03 | <Markie> | yea, the methos essentially |
| 16:03 | <Markie> | methods |
| 16:04 | <Universe> | http://www.cppreference.com/cppvector.html |
| 16:04 | <Universe> | ? |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/table_of_contents.html |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | or that |
| 16:04 | <Markie> | ahh |
| 16:05 | <Markie> | your awesome |
| 16:05 | <Markie> | weird..never heard of vectors in c++ before |
| 16:05 | <Universe> | they are a type of container, right? |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | right |
| 16:06 | * Universe | is still learning.. |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | just an array, basically |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | at least, that's how they're used most often |
| 16:06 | <Markie> | thats what i'm trying to figure out..are they a data type, like an int..etc..yea..container looks like it |
| 16:07 | <Markie> | ahhh..it's part of the STL |
| 16:07 | <Markie> | not part of C++ |
| 16:07 | <Universe> | fromwhat I understand, they are a contain, like an array, list, etc.. |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | which is part of c++ |
| 16:07 | <mdz> | Markie: read the STL tutorial and skim the reference manual |
| 16:07 | <lichen> | yeah freevo cant even record yet can it? like i checked that out first, im like ooh it sounds like tivo, it must be good ;) but it could only do playbacks so far, the ni found this and i was like ooooh it actually works |
| 16:08 | <Markie> | lichen: no, freevo doesnt do any recording |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | freevo's had 'tv recording soon' since june. |
| 16:08 | <Markie> | they basically did the easy thing, which is playing videos :^) |
| 16:08 | <Universe> | wow... that was a change of subject... |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | mdz, there, you got your FAQ update in there |
| 16:09 | <Markie> | something to think about Chutt: the creative digital VCR doesnt use a single ringbuffer file. |
| 16:09 | <lichen> | yeah i just got around to reading my scrollback :) |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | i'll let that robert guy apply the other doc stuff, since that's all his |
| 16:09 | <Markie> | for performance reasons, it uses static sized files of about 65M |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | how's that performance reasons? |
| 16:09 | <Markie> | so it just has lots and lots of sequenced files |
| 16:11 | <Markie> | *shrug* thats what the newsgroups said when they tried explaining it...their other explanation was becuase of the windows filesize limitation |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:11 | <Markie> | maybe the file size limitation was more of the real reason |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | probably |
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| 16:12 | <Markie> | i was working on (about a year ago) a partition based method |
| 16:12 | <Markie> | write directly to the HD, like oracle |
| 16:12 | <Markie> | i think tivo does that too |
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| 16:22 | <mdz> | they do |
| 16:22 | <mdz> | but I don't imagine it's that much faster with a modern CPU and disk |
| 16:22 | <mdz> | and a decent filesystem |
| 16:31 | <lichen> | wait, that is something i hadn't though of, what about the file size limitation in linux? does myth just tell you when you have to stop recording because it will exceed filesize or what? |
| 16:32 | <lichen> | it would be cool ifthere was some sort of kernel patch for myth and you could setup a dedicated drive for mythtv running like mythfs or something :) |
| 16:32 | <lichen> | and marry the drives .. like in tivo lingo |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | there isn't a file size limit |
| 16:34 | <nevertheless> | sorry, but where in cvs is the default settings.txt? |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | libs/libmythtv/ |
| 16:34 | <nevertheless> | ah |
| 16:34 | <mdz> | Chutt: sure there is, 2^64-1 |
| 16:34 | <mdz> | :-) |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:34 | <nevertheless> | hehe |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | ok, if you've got a harddrive that large, there's a limit =) |
| 16:35 | <lichen> | hmm, i could have sworn there was because i ran int othat problem lately while tarring something, but maybe it was also due to the 34279 other things i was trying to do at once with the same file |
| 16:40 | <lichen> | whoa effectv looks pretty cool too |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | well, there's a limit if you're not running a new enough kernel/glibc |
| 16:42 | <nevertheless> | Chutt: I have changed a 'little' in the redline-patch, since I do get lost in the epg yet. Its on its way. |
| 16:42 | <lichen> | well this was 2.4.19 with glibc6 |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 16:43 | <lichen> | i seem to recall samba playing a part in whatever i was doing though, perhaps that was the limiting factor |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | then there's no limit if you tell it to use the 64-bit file ops |
| 16:44 | <lichen> | i remember my coworking mocking me when i told him this looked pretty neat, he told me he tried all these pvr programs for windows and that he was unimpressed with them all, it seems like this is better than the majority of those though? and i would think that filesize thing is a pretty big deal |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | i haven't used any other pvr software |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | so, i really wouldn't know |
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| 16:52 | <Chutt> | nevertheless, i really prefer stuff as patches |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | regardless if it's a completely changed function or not |
| 16:53 | <nevertheless> | yeah, i know, but since i dont use the cvs, i thought it would be 'lot of work for me to cut the things out of the patch, then you would need to "aply" it |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | no buts :p |
| 16:54 | <nevertheless> | hmm :-) |
| 16:54 | <nevertheless> | yeah, i know, since i dont use the cvs, i thought it would be 'lot of work for me to cut the things out of the patch, but I thougt, you would need to "aply" it ;-D |
| 16:55 | <nevertheless> | this is no good english, hehe |
| 16:57 | <lichen> | anyways.. im on my way home from work.. with my work supplied g400 + rainbow runner :) |
| 16:58 | <lichen> | this hsould keep me occupied for a while... and damn my roommate with his tivo!! |
| 16:58 | <lichen> | ill show him |
| 16:58 | <nevertheless> | Im running a g400, too, but without the rainbow runner |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | is there any information, about how to use sf.net cvs anonymously? because alwas downloading the cvs_root tarball is quite bad due to locl changes |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | it's not using sf.net's cvs stuff |
| 17:03 | <nevertheless> | oh |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | :pserver:mythtv@mythtv.org:/var/lib/cvs |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | password is mythtv |
| 17:03 | <Universe> | tivo is still a nice system... |
| 17:03 | <Universe> | I stil use mine |
| 17:05 | <nevertheless> | so why is it a sf.net project if you don't use their cvs and their tracker.etc systems? |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | i'm using their web space to host screenshots |
| 17:05 | <nevertheless> | hehe |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | not having control over your own cvs tree sucks |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | i hate web based bug trackers |
| 17:06 | <nevertheless> | yeah, i know that from my work |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | their mailing list stuff sucks |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | so, i don't use any of it =) |
| 17:06 | <nevertheless> | hmmm, online bugtrackers are nice |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | well, especially stuff like the sf one |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | where you can anonymously file bugs |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | that's just useless |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | since most people that report bugs don't include enough information |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | and how are you supposed to ask for more if you can't email them back? |
| 17:07 | <nevertheless> | hmmm, probably, Im using a non-anonymous for my work, and thats real nice |
| 17:07 | <nevertheless> | do you have a bugtracking system? |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | there aren't any bugs =) |
| 17:08 | <nevertheless> | :-) |
| 17:08 | <nevertheless> | yeah, I realized, i mean, there is alotof stuff to do, but today was the first time mythfrontend crashed while watching livetv |
| 17:09 | <Universe> | there aren't any bugs! |
| 17:09 | <Universe> | LOL |
| 17:10 | <nevertheless> | this is, what mythtv is supposed to be ;-) |
| 17:11 | <nevertheless> | but, to be honest, thera really are now severe bugs |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | like what? |
| 17:12 | <Universe> | did you see that windows as a media center os? |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:13 | <Universe> | seems like everyone is jumping on the bandwagon now... |
| 17:13 | <nevertheless> | oh, no, not now :-) |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:14 | <Universe> | the alienware box looks pretty sweet tho... |
| 17:14 | <mdz> | wtf is up with malloc |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | #1 0x40897a20 in _int_malloc (av=0x4093c480, bytes=1083425920) |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | at malloc.c:3808 |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | #2 0x40896ce5 in __libc_malloc (bytes=460800) at malloc.c:3281 |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | #3 0x407f5799 in __builtin_new () from /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | #4 0x407f597f in __builtin_vec_new () from /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | 460800 != 1083425920 |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | that's not even the next power of 2 |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | so |
| 17:16 | <mdz> | you're on current unstable, right? |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | as of yesterday or so |
| 17:16 | <mdz> | and your libstdc++ is not broken anymore? |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | i don't know |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | i don't think so |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | i need to go pick up my car, bbiab |
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| 17:43 | <lichen_> | yeah i heard about the media center os.. is it like.. actually an os, or just something on top of windows? |
| 17:49 | <nevertheless> | in my oppinion, everything should be worked out for LindowsOS, since this is the only OS ;-) you just have to pay for a free thing ;-D |
| 17:57 | <yebyen> | it's way too late to be up and get up at 5 HEH |
| 17:57 | <yebyen> | errrr |
| 17:57 | * yebyen | notes that is the last thing he said |
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| 18:25 | <Markie> | Chutt, you still here? |
| 18:30 | <Chutt> | for a few more minutes, yeah |
| 18:31 | <Markie> | umm...quick question..you said i cant call the destructor ( in themedmenu) inside of the class itself..understood |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | but am i correct in what needs to be done is the code thats in the destructor? i.e. i just copy and paste that code? |
| 18:32 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | delete logo; delete buttonnorma; delete buttonactive |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | and then go through the iterations |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | kool |
| 18:32 | <Markie> | thanks |
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| 19:00 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmm |
| 19:00 | <yebyen> | Chutt: what are the keys for editing again? |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | (or key, for 0.7) |
| 19:01 | <Universe> | e to go into edit mode |
| 19:01 | <Universe> | left, right, and enter/space |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | thanks |
| 19:02 | <yebyen> | now I just need another button on the remote :P |
| 19:02 | <paperclip> | hey that's the code from contra on the SNES =) |
| 19:03 | <lichen_> | up up down down left right left right b a start! |
| 19:03 | <paperclip> | yeah.. yeah.. it was a joke nerdboy |
| 19:04 | <lichen_> | shh, everyone knows the konami code |
| 19:04 | <paperclip> | oh.. does that work to enter edit mode too =) |
| 19:04 | <lichen_> | and if you dont you shouldn't be using computers at all |
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| 19:15 | <yebyen> | ooh |
| 19:16 | <yebyen> | Chutt: couldn't find codec -1 (1196444242) |
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| 19:17 | <yebyen> | Chutt: when my recordings end (if I don't quit them with escape), I get that message and mythfrontend goes defunct |
| 19:18 | <yebyen> | Chutt: 0.7, could be gone in CVS if you know about it... |
| 19:34 | <yebyen> | Chutt: and apparently tv_cat exists to concatenate two listing files together... i've got an xml file with all of the listings I want, now I just need a way to load it into the database :) |
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| 19:35 | <lichen_> | isn't there mythadddatabase or something? |
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| 19:36 | <yebyen> | mythfilldatabase, yeah |
| 19:37 | <lichen_> | so whats the trouble? :) ... (im not being sarcastic.. im just working on setting up my own box, im working on gathering as much info as possible :)) |
| 19:37 | <lichen_> | everyone says xmltv is the hardest part |
| 19:37 | <yebyen> | lichen_: I needed to create my own listing, nothing on zap2it.com is accurate for me... so I had to tv_grab_na from two different providers manually, and merge them together |
| 19:37 | <lichen_> | ohhh man.. yeah that would be a huge pain |
| 19:38 | <yebyen> | mythfilldatabase does the tv_grab_na on its own, I need to figure out how to do it manually |
| 19:38 | <yebyen> | or convince chutt to modify it to do it this way :) |
| 19:40 | <lichen_> | im hoping this works well with my g400 + rainbow runner |
| 19:42 | <yebyen> | who knows :) |
| 19:42 | <lichen_> | well i shoudl hope at least someone tried ti before, i dont wanna go at this alone :) |
| 19:42 | <lichen_> | i guess the main thing is to get v4l playing with it |
| 19:42 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 19:42 | <yebyen> | if that works, you should be fine |
| 19:43 | <lichen_> | what hardware d oyou use? |
| 19:43 | <yebyen> | hauppauge bt848, and the tv out on my gf2gts |
| 19:44 | <lichen_> | oh one thingi was wondering about, is it actually necessary to install X at all? |
| 19:45 | <Universe> | mythtv runs on X |
| 19:46 | <lichen_> | ah dang, so it needs Qt for X11 i guess |
| 19:46 | <lichen_> | i dont need some beefy installation of it though right? i can just make it use some simple window manager without all the gnome/kde crazy desktop managers? |
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| 19:50 | <mdz__> | Chutt: avcodec_decode_video is returning success, but it seems to only be drawing only one line of the image. any ideas? |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | don't they have stuff to draw slices? |
| 19:51 | <mdz__> | yeah, but I'm not using it |
| 19:51 | <mdz__> | the codec doesn't even support that mode |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | might it think you are? |
| 19:51 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hey |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | yebyen, figure it out yourself :p |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | make a wrapper around tv_grab_na or something |
| 19:52 | <mdz__> | aha |
| 19:52 | <yebyen> | Chutt: what do you use to insert it into the database |
| 19:52 | <Chutt> | all that stuff in mythfilldatabase |
| 19:52 | <mdz__> | nope,not that. hmm. |
| 19:53 | <Chutt> | "Greetings, My name is <> and we are seeking a c++ based developer..." |
| 19:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:53 | <Universe> | lol |
| 19:53 | <Universe> | you getting emails requesting your services Chutt? |
| 19:54 | <Chutt> | just got one |
| 19:55 | <Chutt> | mdz, can i see what you've got? |
| 19:56 | <mdz__> | Chutt: if you want...I haven't cleaned it up |
| 19:56 | <mdz__> | it seems to be shuffling the buffers correctly, but the data isn't getting drawn into it by avcodec |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 19:57 | <mdz__> | and I'm sure rtjpeg is completely broken |
| 19:57 | <mdz__> | ok |
| 19:57 | <mdz__> | sent |
| 19:57 | <mdz__> | it's against 0.7 |
| 19:58 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 19:58 | <mdz__> | I can see the very top line changing, can't really tell if it's correct but it looks believable |
| 19:58 | <mdz__> | it's drawing all 3 planes |
| 19:58 | <mdz__> | but only one line |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 20:00 | <mdz__> | yeah, I watched the same video in mplayer and the top line looks right |
| 20:02 | <mdz__> | actually, it may not be returning gotpicture as true |
| 20:02 | <mdz__> | I don't think that's checked |
| 20:04 | <mdz__> | now I've checked, and it's coming back true |
| 20:07 | <mdz__> | oh, I'm a moron |
| 20:07 | <mdz__> | I think I forgot to set a couple of avcodec DR parameters |
| 20:10 | <mdz__> | ok, it draws the whole frame now, yay |
| 20:10 | <mdz__> | some weirdness with the colour at the top and bottom |
| 20:17 | <yebyen> | Chutt: but yeah, what do you think about that "Cannot find codec" |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | i dunno. |
| 20:17 | <yebyen> | Chutt: want a backtrace? |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | i've never seen it |
| 20:17 | <yebyen> | can I get a backtrace if it doesn't really segfault? |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 20:18 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 20:18 | <Chutt> | you can generally hit ctl-c in gdb and see where its hanging, though. |
| 20:18 | <yebyen> | hm |
| 20:20 | <yebyen> | Chutt: the editing stuff is cool :) |
| 20:20 | <mdz__> | this would be easier if I understood YUV I think |
| 20:21 | <mdz__> | I seem to have green bands at the top and bottom of the image |
| 20:21 | <Chutt> | what'd you change to get it to draw more than one line? |
| 20:21 | <mdz__> | I assume those are zeroes in the UV? |
| 20:21 | <mdz__> | mpa_ctx->dr_stride = video_width; |
| 20:21 | <mdz__> | mpa_ctx->dr_uvstride = video_width / 2; |
| 20:22 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 20:22 | <mdz__> | line 616 |
| 20:22 | <mdz__> | there are separate settings for DR apparently |
| 20:24 | <Universe> | what ar eyou creating mdz? |
| 20:24 | <mdz__> | Universe: hopefully making playback faster |
| 20:24 | <Universe> | ahh |
| 20:24 | <Universe> | ok |
| 20:27 | <mdz__> | so the Y plane is w*h, and U and V are w*h/4 each, right? |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | right |
| 20:28 | <mdz__> | so one line in Y is width, and one line in U or V would be width/2, no? |
| 20:28 | <mdz__> | I've got to be getting uvstride wrong |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | funky |
| 20:29 | <mdz__> | heh, you see it? |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | every keyframe's perfect |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | it goes downhill from there =) |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | doesn't look like you're getting either stride wrong |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | no green bars, though |
| 20:30 | <mdz__> | hmm |
| 20:30 | <mdz__> | downhill how, then? |
| 20:30 | <mdz__> | oh, that |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | it was segfaulting on me |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | so i had to turn on the CODEC_FLAG_EMU_EDGE |
| 20:30 | <mdz__> | really? it runs forever here |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | and that stopped it |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | i may have messed up your patch, though =) |
| 20:31 | <mdz__> | I had that on previously and took it out when I was trying to figure out that one-line problem |
| 20:31 | <mdz__> | ahh, CODEC_FLAG_EMU_EDGE fixes the colors! |
| 20:32 | <mdz__> | so now I need to deal with the other problem |
| 20:32 | <mdz__> | it acts almost like it's losing frames |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | are you sure the dr_opaque_frame is what it's supposed to be? |
| 20:32 | <mdz__> | dr_opaque_frame is just opaque data to go to the buffer callback |
| 20:32 | <mdz__> | we own it |
| 20:33 | <Chutt> | dr_ip_buffer_count? |
| 20:34 | <mdz__> | yeah, I was about to try that |
| 20:34 | <mdz__> | because I noticed that the sound sync is way off |
| 20:34 | <mdz__> | as if perhaps it's only getting half the frames |
| 20:34 | <mdz__> | dr_ip_buffer_count doesn't seem to change anything |
| 20:35 | <mdz__> | audio sounds like it's at 2x |
| 20:35 | <mdz__> | actually, it does look better with dr_ip_buffer_count |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | for me |
| 20:35 | <mdz__> | just not perfect yet |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | each keyframe looks fine |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | then it sorta smears upwards |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | like its not saving the current frame's data |
| 20:36 | <Chutt> | to base the old stuff off of |
| 20:36 | <mdz__> | for me, there's only occasional corruption |
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| 20:36 | <mdz__> | and it's in that blocky pattern |
| 20:36 | <mdz__> | as if it's missing the data for some frames and continuing on |
| 20:37 | <mdz__> | or maybe getting the data from the wrong frame for some spots |
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| 20:38 | <mdz_> | maybe I broke the free buffer calculation and it's writing into the next frame past the end of the buffer... |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | it's using a good 10% less cpu, though |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | sometimes 20% |
| 20:38 | <mdz_> | the fact that it looks different for you gives me that idea |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | i've got 35-40% cpu free in livetv mode now |
| 20:38 | <mdz_> | nice |
| 20:38 | <mdz_> | it should be zero copies |
| 20:39 | <mdz_> | instead of 2 |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | right =) |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | lemme take a screenshot, i'll show you what it looks like |
| 20:40 | <mdz_> | I think it may just be getting the wrong buffer sometimes |
| 20:40 | <mdz_> | I think I'm missing a lock |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | no, this is constant |
| 20:40 | <mdz_> | hmm |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | unless i misapplied something in your patch |
| 20:41 | <mdz_> | are you running in debug or release mode? |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | release |
| 20:41 | <mdz_> | I've been on debug |
| 20:42 | <mdz_> | I'm tempted to rip out all the rtjpeg stuff from decodeframe so that I can see |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | http://mythtv.org/mc/corrupt.jpg |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | you mean I didn't break the screenshot stuff? |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | what screenshot stuff? |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | i just make it use the video blitter instead of the overlay |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | what's screengrab about? |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | oh |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | just look at it =) |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | ah |
| 20:45 | <mdz_> | I didn't read it, just blew by it doing some searches |
| 20:45 | <mdz_> | that looks quite different from what I see |
| 20:46 | <mdz_> | I assume those red blotches are not normal? |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | the stuff on top is |
| 20:46 | <_shad> | How do I make the video brighter? |
| 20:46 | <mdz_> | mine looks perfect, except every few seconds there is one frame that is bad |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | or sometimes a couple |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | can you re-diff your stuff? |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | i'll compare |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | ok |
| 20:48 | <mdz_> | sent |
| 20:48 | <mdz_> | I'm also not using the OSD |
| 20:49 | <mdz_> | or the deinterlacer |
| 20:49 | <mdz_> | or mythtv, for that matter |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | this is live-tv |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | it was the deinterlacing |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | turn that off, it's perfect |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | perfect? or the same as mine? |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | every once in a while, I get some pieces of the wrong frame |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | perfect |
| 20:52 | <_shad> | Live-tv? :) |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | maybe it's a bad recording, I'll watch something else |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | shad, err, that's always worked. |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | mdz, it does segfault on exit, though =) |
| 20:53 | <_shad> | Chutt: hehe. I want to watch live tv with mythtv till I can afford a faster puter |
| 20:53 | <mdz_> | sound is right now |
| 20:53 | <mdz_> | but I am definitely getting pieces of old frames |
| 20:53 | <mdz_> | I wonder why it doesn't happen to you |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 20:55 | <mdz_> | where's the segfault on exit? probably something silly, I've never even tried shutting it down |
| 20:55 | <mdz_> | nuppelvideo or Xvvideooutput? |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | i don't know |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | haven't looked at it yet |
| 20:56 | <Chutt> | it's funny seeing the shadows darken on pause =) |
| 20:58 | <mdz_> | oh, yeah, filters would definitely be broken |
| 20:58 | <mdz_> | easy to fix though |
| 20:59 | <mdz_> | hmm, no. not what I thought |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | hmm? |
| 20:59 | <Chutt> | i don't see anything obviously wrong with the filters |
| 21:02 | <mdz_> | I'll get a perfect frame except for one block which is from an earlier frame |
| 21:05 | <mdz_> | then it gets worse, and is a mix of two GOPs until the keyframe, which is correct |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | it's not the deinterlacing |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | somethin else is goin on |
| 21:07 | <mdz_> | it's acting as if it expects the new buffer to be a copy of the old one |
| 21:08 | <mdz_> | and so it's not writing the entire frame, just the deltas |
| 21:08 | <mdz_> | that is my video-novice assessment |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | no |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | ok, it's perfect if i don't have deinterlace=1 on |
| 21:08 | <mdz_> | not for me :-) |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | if i turn on deinterlacing, it's crap |
| 21:08 | <mdz_> | on low-motion frames it's worse |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | but if i comment out the deinterlacing stuff |
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| 21:09 | <Chutt> | the actual process_filters or whatever |
| 21:09 | <Chutt> | it's still crap |
| 21:09 | <mdz_> | are we running the same code? |
| 21:09 | <mdz_> | did you apply the patch to 0.7 or something newer? |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | newer |
| 21:10 | <elsefuderr> | what causes a run out of audio buffers? i was watching tv (a bit behind the actual transmission) and suddenly audio went off |
| 21:10 | <Chutt> | anyway, i'll bbl |
| 21:11 | <elsefuderr> | and i got that error.. turned mythtv off, but still got same errors when i restarted it.. had to restart alsa |
| 21:28 | <mdz_> | Chutt: increasing dr_ip_buffer_count fixes my corruption issue |
| 21:31 | <lichen_> | whats alsa? i saw no mention of alsa anywhere on the myth page except from you guys mentioning it |
| 21:32 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I see that same crawling effect that you do when I enable linearblend |
| 21:33 | <mmc2> | lichen_: advanced linux sound architecture |
| 21:33 | <mdz_> | lichen_: www.alsa-project.org I believe |
| 21:33 | <Universe> | http://www.alsa-project.org/ |
| 21:33 | <mmc2> | alsaproject.org I think |
| 21:33 | <Universe> | yeah |
| 21:33 | <mmc2> | yeah thats it |
| 21:33 | <lichen_> | oh okay.. man, this is going to be one hell of a project getting all thsi working too :) |
| 21:34 | <mmc2> | if you are using debian debianplanet has a howto for building alsa with a kernel |
| 21:34 | <lichen_> | im use a live with the addon digital card, im assuming all thats supported? |
| 21:34 | <lichen_> | yeah im about to install debian right now |
| 21:34 | <Universe> | if you know nothing about linux... its good to start play with it before you when start with something like mythtv |
| 21:35 | <lichen_> | oh no, i know linux like teh back of my hand |
| 21:35 | <lichen_> | in terms of a server anyhow... when it comes to multimedia stuff, thats where my experience is lacking :) |
| 21:35 | <Chutt> | mdz, i don't think it's the linear blend algorithm, though |
| 21:35 | <Universe> | so you know nothing about a desktop linux system... |
| 21:35 | <mdz_> | Chutt: me either |
| 21:35 | <Universe> | thats surprising. |
| 21:35 | <mdz_> | Chutt: but I don't know what it is |
| 21:36 | <mdz_> | Chutt: it's the same damn thing with a different buffer |
| 21:36 | <lichen_> | no i wouldn't say nothing, im familiar with X and how to install it, configure it, use it and all that |
| 21:36 | <lichen_> | im just not acquinted with all the video/audio tools and support |
| 21:37 | <lichen_> | or well acquainted i should say |
| 21:38 | <lichen_> | but im sure i can do this |
| 21:47 | <yebyen> | myeh |
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| 21:58 | <Chutt> | oh wait, maybe it is the linear blend |
| 21:58 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:58 | <Chutt> | does libavcodec access the previous frame? |
| 21:59 | <mdz_> | I was wondering |
| 22:00 | <mdz_> | if it didn't, it would have to make a copy of it |
| 22:00 | <mdz_> | I bet it uses the same one |
| 22:01 | <mdz_> | so linearblend is modifying the buffer and then it's being used by avcodec afterward |
| 22:02 | <mdz_> | that would also explain what I was seeing |
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| 22:02 | <mdz_> | maybe |
| 22:03 | <mdz_> | no, still doesn't make sense |
| 22:03 | <mdz_> | I'm not sure why increasing dr_ip_buffer_count fixed it, either |
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| 22:03 | <mdz_> | I set it to the MAXVBUFFER |
| 22:04 | <witten_> | anyone have a list of cool hardware they use for a dedicate mythtv/media box? |
| 22:04 | <witten_> | dedicated, rather |
| 22:04 | <mdz_> | cool as in low-heat? |
| 22:04 | <witten_> | no, cool as in not a big ATX beige PC :) |
| 22:04 | <witten_> | but low-heat would be nice too :) |
| 22:05 | <mdz_> | well, low-heat usually means higher noise |
| 22:05 | <mdz_> | so really you want hot quiet hardware |
| 22:05 | <witten_> | okay, hot quiet not big ATX beige PC then :) |
| 22:06 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I don't know what to do about linearblend...is the algorithm reversible? |
| 22:08 | <mdz_> | if not, I see no choice but to copy it |
| 22:10 | <witten_> | so, everyone just runs mythtv on their PCs? |
| 22:11 | <witten_> | no one puts it on a box in the living room plugged into their TVs? |
| 22:11 | <mdz_> | witten_: you are absolutely right |
| 22:11 | <witten_> | damn |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | mdz, or do it on display |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | since display isn't the immediately previous frame |
| 22:19 | <mdz_> | it could be, couldn't it? |
| 22:20 | <mdz_> | it could be done on record |
| 22:20 | <Chutt> | true |
| 22:24 | <mdz_> | how does that affect compression? |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | doing the deinterlacing before display works fine |
| 22:28 | <mdz_> | but is it guaranteed to work fine? |
| 22:28 | <mdz_> | if the buffer is nearly empty, couldn't it be displaying the previous frame while it encodes the next? |
| 22:29 | <mdz_> | it could always reserve that buffer |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | it only needs the current buffer and the immediately previous buffer |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | since i don't allow it to generate b frames |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | and i think it refuses to display until there are > 2 frames in the output buffer |
| 22:30 | <mdz_> | ah, that I did not realize |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | the whole prebuffering stuff |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | anyway, good work, this really cuts cpu usage =) |
| 22:30 | <mdz_> | I hope so |
| 22:30 | <mdz_> | I haven't been able to try it on my mythtv box yet |
| 22:30 | <mdz_> | I'm hoping it will get me 640x480 back |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | it should |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | considering i'm getting at least 10% more unused cpu with this |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | at 640x480 with deinterlacing off |
| 22:31 | <mdz_> | nice |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | now i just need to fix it so that it works with the preview window |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | ie, pip |
| 22:32 | <mdz_> | and rtjpeg |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | and pausing |
| 22:32 | <mdz_> | did you make the dr_ip_buffer_count change? |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | i made it MAXVBUFFER - 1 |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | which seems to work here |
| 22:32 | <mdz_> | sounds good |
| 22:33 | <Markie> | yea!! i got dynamic themes working!!!!!! |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | and fix that segfault on exit |
| 22:34 | <mdz_> | my mythplay doesn't currently have an "exit" function |
| 22:34 | <mdz_> | so I didn't quite run into that one |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 22:35 | <Markie> | Chutt, are you gonna not be happy if i have to change something core? |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | core? |
| 22:36 | <Markie> | well it's not that much of a big deal.. |
| 22:36 | <Markie> | mythcontext.h has SetSetting private |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | oh, whatever |
| 22:36 | <Markie> | i need to make it public so that you cna change the settings |
| 22:36 | <Markie> | kewl :) |
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| 23:14 | <_shad> | There is no way currently to set the brightness and contrast? |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | no |
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| 23:38 | <mdz_> | _shad: you can set them before you start mythtv, though |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | fixed the preview window, hmm |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | and the segfault on exit =) |
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| 23:45 | <mdz_> | Chutt: nice |
| 23:45 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what about the deinterlacer? |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | i made it not initialize xv unconditionally |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | still the same |
| 23:46 | <mdz_> | you have decided that is the way to go though, to do it before display? |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | think so |
| 23:46 | <mdz_> | are your current changes in CVS yet? |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | no |
| 23:46 | <mdz_> | hmm, I should probably go to bed anyway, or I'd work on it |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | want to fix rtjpeg first |
| 23:46 | <mdz_> | ah yes |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | which, i think i just did |
| 23:48 | <paperclip> | =) |
| 23:48 | <mdz_> | I'm off to bed, but if you want to send me your diff I can test it some tomorrow if you want some confirmation before you commit it |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | i'll probably just commit it |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | if you don't mind |
| 23:49 | <mdz_> | no problem for me |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | i'll send an email to the list and ask people to test it |
| 23:49 | <mdz_> | it could make a big difference for some of those people on very underpowered systems |
| 23:49 | <Markie> | i'm going to bed...i'm happy..i inderstand the code quite a bit now, and i got it working too! |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | not if they're using rtjpeg, though =) |
| 23:49 | <mdz_> | true, which they probably all are |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | but, it may make mpeg4 useable by more people |
| 23:50 | <mdz_> | Markie: what are you working on? |
| 23:50 | <Markie> | btw, Chutt in ~themedmenu ,theres a segfault bug. |
| 23:50 | <Markie> | looping theour the allButtonIcons. |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | just do an allbuttonicons.clear() |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | i'll have it in my patch |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | mdz: umm..MythSettings |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | right now, changing themes on the fly |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | then setting up/updating channels |
| 23:51 | <Markie> | ..etc.. |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | if you just do an allbuttonicons.clear(), how does it delete the pixmap? |
| 23:52 | <Markie> | ah..gotach..all i know was that that loop was segfaulting every time. |
| 23:52 | <Markie> | i didnt really look to see that allbuttonicons sotred :^) |
| 23:53 | <Markie> | i changed it to use clear() and it stopped segfaulting :^) |
| 23:53 | <Markie> | sotred=stored |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | well, you changed something else to make it segfault :p |
| 23:54 | <Markie> | *shrug* i'll look into it more tomorrow |
| 23:54 | <Markie> | oh, and i learned on other new thing thats completely off topic: theres a Terminal Server/Remote Desktop client for linux! woo hoo! |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | what, vnc? |
| 23:55 | <Markie> | no. |
| 23:55 | <Markie> | for windows terminal servers |
| 23:55 | <Markie> | and winXP remote desktop |
| 23:55 | <Markie> | night night |
| 23:56 | <paperclip> | rdesktop |
| 23:56 | <paperclip> | .org |
| 23:56 | <paperclip> | old hat =) |
| 23:59 | <Markie> | :^) |
| 23:59 | <Markie> | is ButtonIcon a QT thing? |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | it's a struct defined in themedmenu.h |
