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01:10<Chutt>mdz, stick a vbox in the groupbox, then add the widgets to that
01:11<Chutt>the groupbox isn't a layout widget
01:12<Chutt>i think
01:12<Chutt>there's a groupbox used in playbackbox.cpp in mythmusic
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02:49<yebyen>Chutt: hey
02:49<yebyen>Chutt: zap2it ate my program information, heh
02:50<yebyen>like, even going through their website, i get a provider with no channels or listings
02:51<yebyen>it's bizarre
02:51<yebyen>conspiracy to keep me from having entertaining TV
03:03<Namapoos>i agree
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11:38<mdz_>Chutt: ok, I was using QVBox and it didn't do what I wanted, but QVBoxLayout does
11:38<mdz_>Chutt: QVBox seems like it should be what I want, though
11:41<mdz_>I just want it to put all of its child widgets in a vbox
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11:57<nevertheless>i don't believe it, my mythbox is up and running including everything :-))
11:58<lichen_>whats everything?
11:58<lichen_>ive been gone about a week now and haven't tracked the development.. anyhting cool happen? :)
11:58<nevertheless>lirc is running, sound works now (unless i have a bad sound in the background of the 2nd bttv card due to the loopback connection)
11:58<nevertheless>i don't know, i was working on the setup only
11:58<nevertheless>2 bttvs are running
11:59<nevertheless>now i can go on and patch things :-)
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11:59<lichen_>ohhh dual tuners? awesome... i have two tuners, only one is a bttv thoguh, the other is a rainbow runner, im not quite ready to attempt that
11:59<lichen_>the tuner needs better drivers too
12:00<nevertheless>unfortunatly i couldnt get btaudio for the one bt878 card running, so i needed to configure both soundcards (sb live! and onboard)
12:00<lichen_>ohhh so one live for each bttv?
12:00<lichen_>er, onboard :) nevermind
12:01<lichen_>thats cool you actually got it working though
12:01<nevertheless>yeah :)
12:01<lichen_>is lirc for controlling ir transmitters or receivers?
12:01<lichen_>.. it does both?
12:01<nevertheless>only recievers
12:01<Chutt>it does both.
12:02<nevertheless>ok :)
12:02<nevertheless>but I only use the one direction :)
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12:12<mdz_>Chutt: why do I need to specify an explicit margin for the vboxlayout? I would like for it to fill the whole groupbox without overlapping with the group title text, which seems like it would be the only sane default
12:13<mdz_>Chutt: instead, by default it covers the entire parent groupbox
12:13<Chutt>i dunno
12:13<Chutt>stuff's weird at times
12:14<mdz_>and it all has to be in pixels
12:14<Chutt>pixels * wmult or hmult =)
12:14<mdz_>right, yuck
12:14<Chutt>if you're using libmyth
12:14<Chutt>yeah, but it works
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15:17<lichen_>i added the most worthwhile feature to webmyth.. it prints out the little bar that shows all the times all the way down the page now
15:28<nevertheless>how can i tell 'myhtmusic' to search in another dir for libmyt without always editing the Makefile in the subdir?
15:34<lichen_>hey is there any way you could stop myth from recording via database manipulation? like i know you can start recording by whether or not the RecordChanged field has been set, but can you stop recording the same way? for instance remove a record from singlerecord and then set RecordChanged to yes? will that make myth stop recording that program?
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15:41<nevertheless>lichen_ just test it :)
15:42<lichen_>hah i would, but im like 100 some miles away from my myth box at the moment, im just working on some mythweb code cause im bored and got a few hours to kill :)
15:44<Chutt>lichen, any time the db is changed, recordchanged should be set to yes
15:55<Chutt>it won't stop an already in progress recording, though
16:06<lichen_>oh, would that be desired? cause that would make it possible to be able to stop recordings in progress from the web interface.. and on a side note, it might be nice if it kept partial recordings
16:11<mdz_>Chutt: do you happen to know a way to prevent losing keyboard focus when running a Qt app under gdb?
16:16<mirk_dt>I'm trying to track down a bug with mythtv when using two tuner cards.
16:17<mirk_dt>I've got two Hauppauge winTV cards and am using the btaudio module for capturing audio.
16:17<mirk_dt>but when I hit "v" to enable PIP, mythtv segfaults.
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16:18<mirk_dt>Any suggestions about where I should look?
16:19<mdz_>mirk_dt: recompile mythtv in debug mode, and get a stack trace
16:23<mirk_dt>ok. I'm just learning how to use gdb / ddd. How do i do that?
16:24<mirk_dt>I already recompiled in debug mode.
16:31<mdz_>instead of running mythfrontend
16:31<mdz_>run gdb /path/to/mythfrontend
16:31<mdz_>then within gdb, type 'run'
16:32<mdz_>when the segfault happens, you will be dropped back to the gdb prompt
16:32<mdz_>type "bt" or "where" to get a stack trace
16:33<mirk_dt>ok. btw, I noticed that I have to run mythfrontend from the directory where I compiled instead of the directory where it was installed, because the installation program seems to strip the debug information from the binaries.
16:35<mirk_dt>#0 0x4207401d in _int_free () from /lib/i686/
16:35<mirk_dt>#1 0x42074a2c in free () from /lib/i686/
16:35<mirk_dt>#2 0x40675853 in operator delete(void*) (ptr=0xf496f4b8) at ../../../../libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/
16:35<mirk_dt>#3 0x4067587f in operator delete[](void*) (ptr=0xf496f4b8) at ../../../../libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/
16:35<mirk_dt>#4 0x0808a34e in NuppelVideoPlayer::OpenFile(bool) (this=0x4d2e5008, skipDsp=false) at NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp:510
16:35<mirk_dt>#5 0x0808c6de in NuppelVideoPlayer::StartPlaying() (this=0x4d2e5008) at NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp:1424
16:35<mirk_dt>#6 0x0807a841 in SpawnDecode(void*) (param=0x4d2e5008) at tv.cpp:41
16:35<mirk_dt>#7 0x40773941 in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/i686/
16:35<mirk_dt>#8 0x40773a45 in pthread_start_thread_event () from /lib/i686/
16:38<mirk_dt>this is mythtv 0.7
16:38<mdz_>send the whole thing unmangled to the mailing list
16:38<mirk_dt>send the backtrace?
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16:54<nevertheless>its quite amusing reading the old 'Updates" stuff :-)
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17:11<vektor>Chutt: You around?
17:21<Chutt>off and on =)
17:22<vektor>ok i have a funny story
17:22<vektor>a friend of mine bought an ATI TV Wonder
17:22<vektor>and was complaining about off-by-one channels
17:22<vektor>and slightly detuned too
17:22<vektor>and i'm thinking 'oh no canada cable!'
17:22<vektor>but i didn't quite believe it
17:22<vektor>so we played around a bit
17:22<Chutt>wrong tuner number?
17:22<vektor>yes :)
17:22<vektor>wrong tuner number :)
17:22<vektor>so, i think canada-cable is bogus and likely means 'wrong tuner'.
17:22<Chutt>that's what i've thought it was as well
17:23<Chutt>it's easier than telling people to figure out the right tuner to use, though =)
17:23<vektor>this makes me feel alot better.
17:23<vektor>sure :)
17:24<vektor>you into gameboy advance roms?
17:24<vektor>aw come on!
17:24<vektor>they roxor!
17:24<vektor>i just got a converter from psx controller to usb
17:25<vektor>so i'm into rom playing now
17:25<Chutt>got plenty of games to play still
17:25<vektor>since i finally have a good controller
17:25<vektor>what do you play?
17:25<Chutt>haven't finished the gamecube metroid yet
17:25<vektor>ah :)
17:25<vektor>yeah i haven't decided if we should get a gamecube
17:25<Chutt>and i need to go back and finish ratchet & clank on the ps2 sometime
17:25<vektor>or a ps2 or something
17:39<lichen_>hey chutt, can i somehow get commit access ot the mythweb repository? or perhaps it would be best just to give me my own branch.. its up to you, but im slowly making some changes amongst my busy schedule
17:43* lichen_&
17:49<mdz_>lichen_: what are you doing?
18:16<nevertheless>which thread is it, that every about 3min 15secs increases the taken cpu power by about 25%, this lasts for about a good half minute?
18:16<sefudi3r3>mdz: im going to be working on hacking some scene change detection/commercial skipping stuff into mythtv, which files do i need to look at? (i.e. where would i have access to the uncompressed frames)
18:17<mdz_>sefudi3r3: are you the same person who emailed me about this?
18:18<mdz_>Robert Kulagowski <> is working on that as well, you might want to contact him
18:18<mdz_>it is probably not the best idea to try to do that in real-time during capture
18:18<mdz_>it should happen as a batch process after the recording is don
18:19<mdz_>so you would decode the stream, do your analysis, and then write out your guesses to the cutlist or something
18:19<mdz_>it could probably share whatever batch processing facility Chutt has in mind for re-encoding
18:22<sefudi3r3>humm i had in mind some neat utilities for this besides cutting commercials.. lets say you have a show you want to record that changes schedules every day.. you could let mythtv monitoring the channel for a given time window, and wait until the program's start is recognized, then it would record for X minutes and stop, or stop when the program end is recognized
18:24<sefudi3r3>or, upon detection of a comercial it could switch to mythmusic or something
18:24<sefudi3r3>until comercial is ended
18:25<nevertheless>mythtv has a real funny cpu scheme! why increases the cpupower to about 75% when beeing paused, having about 50% in liveTV mode (on my machine).
18:30<sefudi3r3>mdz: where do i need to look at, if i were to process the frames during capture?
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19:03<rnc>paperclip: hey, I know you from somewhere
19:17<paperclip>rnc: #gentoo ?
19:17<paperclip>i think i contributed to genmenu =)
19:17<rnc>ehe, yeah !
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21:41<mdz_>Chutt: around?
21:41<Chutt>mdz, the kde3.1 cvs debs from are linked against gcc 3.2 =)
21:41<mdz_>I just noticed that my X server uses a TON of CPU when the playback preview window is up
21:41<mdz_>any guesses?
21:41<mdz_>as much as 20% of my CPU
21:41<Chutt>it shouldn't be using that much cpu
21:41<mdz_>whereas during playback it uses almost none
21:41<mdz_>what does it do differently in the preview than during playback?
21:41<Chutt>well, it's transferring data to qt and stuff
21:41<mdz_>ah, hmm
21:42<Chutt>qt's drawing the picture
21:42<Chutt>and scaling it
21:42<Chutt>but it's supposed to be doing really low quality scaling
21:42<mdz_>it's bad enough that if somebody leaves the recording selection screen up, and a scheduled recording starts, it will interfere
21:43<Chutt>you can always turn that off =)
21:43<mdz_>I'll probably just do that
21:43<mdz_>but I like it :-)
21:43<Chutt>yeah, it's cool
21:43<mdz_>it's especially bad since the X server runs at elevated priority
21:43<Chutt>i wonder how hard it'd be to draw into that window with xv
21:43<mdz_>I did a quick google, and apparently some cards support hardware downscaling and some don't
21:44<mdz_>I think Xv just doesn't do it
21:44<Chutt>xv should scale it down
21:44<Chutt>to any arbitrary dimension
21:44<mdz_>even if it has to do it in software?
21:44<Chutt>i dunno =)
21:44<Chutt>the current stuff is all software
21:44<mdz_>I have a rough cut of the GUI configuration stuff, coming along pretty well
21:44<mdz_>I basically took that mockup that I showed you before and built it from scratch with actual code behind it
21:45<Chutt>i haven't touched any code recently =)
21:45<Chutt>just reading
21:45<mdz_>anything good?
21:45<Chutt>not really
21:45<mdz_>I'm getting the hang of Qt
21:46<mdz_>overall it's pretty nice
21:46<Chutt>it is
21:46<mdz_>does the moc cruft confuse vim's indentation engine?
21:46<mdz_>it seems to screw up emacs c++-mode
21:46<mdz_>"public slots" and what not
21:46<Chutt>i don't use indentation stuff
21:47<mdz_>that is inconceivable to me :-)
21:47<Chutt>i hate stuff like that
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21:47<mdz_>you indent manually with spaces?
21:47<mdz_>that is crazy talk
21:48<vektor>crazy talk??
21:48<vektor>you're nuts
21:48<vektor>everyone indents manually with spaces
21:48<mdz_>vektor: you're crazy too?
21:48<vektor>of course
21:48<mdz_>if you want to do it manually, at least use tabs
21:48<vektor>unless i'm doing kernel code, at which point i use tabs
21:49<mdz_>that's so many extra keystrokes, how do you get anything done?
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21:49<vektor>mdz~: i type very very quickly and use vim (yy then p then cw etc etc)
21:50<mdz_>vektor: and then "4 " or "8 " or "12 "?
21:50<vektor>i type fast enough that i don't need to
21:50<mdz_>sure :-P
21:51<mdz_>:set ai 4 life
21:52<billytwowilly>hmmm.. is another release happening soon?
21:52<Chutt>billytwowilly, no
21:53<billytwowilly>Chutt: oh, and I like the stuff you added to the todo man;) graphical setup procedure would be cool;)
21:54<billytwowilly>so were you just joshing me about the release, or were you serious?
21:54<mdz_>Chutt's still breaking things, a release doesn't happen until things have been broken and fixed again :-)
21:55<Chutt>right =)
21:55<Chutt>i think i'll have time to code next week
21:55<Chutt>so i should move pretty rapidly
21:55<billytwowilly>oh ok, I was just wondering cuz It seems like a while, there was a point there where new releases seemed to come every week or two;)
21:56<Chutt>i only did that twice
21:57<billytwowilly>well, I don't have a very good memory;)
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21:57<billytwowilly>when you say re-encoding in the todo do you mean re-encode to a different format, or re-encode to actually remove the commercials out?
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21:57<Chutt>diferent format meaning the same format, of course
21:58<Chutt>but like, rtjpeg->mpeg4
21:58<mdz_>or recording profile "Movie" to recording profile "SVCD" :-)
21:58<billytwowilly>ahhh... that's what I suspected;) I meant .nuv to avi or something else that I can easily play in mplayer;)
22:05<mdz_>something weird is happening...I'm calling query.value(n).toString() on a QSqlQuery and it's giving me an empty QString
22:05<mdz_>but the query in the mysql log is correct, and when I execute it in the mysql CLI I get a correct result
22:05<Chutt>giving you a QString::null?
22:06<mdz_>whatever comes out of an ostream as " (null)"
22:06<mdz_>I assume that's QString::null
22:07<mdz_>I'm just starting to test the db load/save stuff
22:07<mdz_>and I'm watching it pull all of the right stuff out of the database, and then the settings don't show up in my widgets because of this
22:08<Chutt>i've never had a problem with that
22:08<Chutt>the values are strings in the db, right?
22:08<mdz_>the stuff I put in libnuppelvideo works fine
22:09<mdz_>this is just a small test program which doesn't use any myth bits
22:10<mdz_>I can't think what I could be doing wrong, though
22:10<mdz_>the db connection stuff seems simple enough
22:10<Chutt>especially if it's showing up in the logs
22:10<mdz_>I'm doing QSqlDatabase::addDatabase, setDatabaseName, setUserName, setPassword, setHostName and open()
22:13<vektor>i hate auto indenting
22:13<mdz_>I am clearly outnumbered by the anti-autoindenters here, let's not talk about it anymore :-)
22:16<vektor>woohoo we win!!
22:16<mdz_>hmm, it's giving me a QVariant with typ = Invalid
22:16<mdz_>that's what's being turned into QString::null when I .toString() it
22:17<mdz_>oh, crap. I forgot you need to before you can get the values
22:17<mdz_>what kind of crap is that anyway
22:18<mdz_>it should start on the first result row
22:18<Chutt>lets you do while (
22:18<Chutt>instead of a do while loop
22:18<mdz_>for loops are fine by me
22:19<mdz_>yeehaw, now it loads my profile from the db
22:19<mdz_>and theoretically should be able to save it back if I enable that
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23:00<Chutt>i need more books to read
23:00<mdz_>everything I have tested works
23:00<mdz_>except one cosmetic thing
23:01<mdz_>the framework is generic enough that all of the settings currently in the config files could be moved into it very easily
23:01<mdz_>except for the mysql settings, of course :-)
23:01<mdz_>but I don't think we can actually move all that until we have an onscreen keyboard, no?
23:01<mdz_>there are a lot of text settings
23:02<mdz_>all the numeric and multiselect stuff is easy though
23:02<Chutt>most of the text settings don't have all that many valid choices
23:02<mdz_>right, devices and such can be scanned for
23:02<Chutt>or if they do, there's a small number of sane defaults
23:02<mdz_>and some things browsed for
23:02<mdz_>the ringbuffer needs a filename though
23:03<Chutt>for the settings, though, i don't _really_ mind requiring a keyboard
23:03<Chutt>stuff should be mostly useable without one, but
23:03<mdz_>now that I look, it really shoudln't be necessary
23:04<mdz_>the stuff that would require keyboard entry is not core stuff
23:04<mdz_>I won't cry if UnknownTitle can't be set with a remote control
23:04<Chutt>yeah, exactly
23:05<mdz_>the default for the ringbuffer is fine for the debs :-P
23:05<Chutt>you going to check stuff in anytime?
23:05<mdz_>needs a few more small touches
23:05<mdz_>I hardcoded the profile id for testing
23:05<mdz_>it needs to either look it up so it works with autoincrement, or just take care of incrementing it itself
23:06<mdz_>but it's very close
23:06<Chutt>how hard is it to add new profiles?
23:06<mdz_>like, for the user to add new profiles?
23:06<mdz_>3-page wizard
23:06<mdz_>pretty much like the one you saw
23:06<Chutt>entering the name? =)
23:06<mdz_>that's another touch, it needs to generate a name
23:07<mdz_>a drop down with some pre-entered names maybe
23:07<mdz_>currently there's just a default and an edit box
23:07<mdz_>then one page of video settings, and one page of audio settings
23:07<Chutt>and make the dropdown editable, if there's a keyboard present
23:07<Chutt>anyway, sounds great
23:07<mdz_>I'll probably check something in tomorrow
23:08<Chutt>cool, feel free to break cvs
23:08<mdz_>adding classes for all of the other settings is just a bunch of typing really
23:08<mdz_>I think I have all of the classes I need
23:08<mdz_>I'll have to make sure my checkbox actually works
23:08<mdz_>that's not tested
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23:09<Chutt>that's getting annoying.
23:14<Chutt>heh, neat, 14k unique IPs to the website in november
23:14<Chutt>48k page views
23:19<billytwowilly>Chutt: you're hosting that on DSL?
23:19<billytwowilly>and the CVS stuff? your ISP getting annoyed yet??;)
23:19<Chutt>yup and no
23:19<billytwowilly>commercial DSL?
23:19<billytwowilly>where you at?
23:20<billytwowilly>place where the webserver is;)
23:20<billytwowilly>place of origin:)
23:20<Chutt>like, how detailed?
23:20<billytwowilly>I'm looking for an ISp;)
23:20<billytwowilly>like Canada, or the States;)
23:20<billytwowilly>states then eh?
23:21<billytwowilly>I'm surprised that speakeasy isn't annoyed.... too bad they aren't up here in Canada.
23:21<Chutt>why would they be annoyed?
23:21<Chutt>it's really not that much data
23:22<billytwowilly>oh? I thought with the CVS stuff it would be a load of data.
23:23<Chutt>naw, it's not that bad
23:24<billytwowilly>Cool, cool. heh, here's a possible flamebait question but, hear any word on anyone developing mythmovie for dvds and avi's?
23:26<Chutt>people mention it
23:26<Chutt>but nothing's ever come of it
23:27<Chutt>i may break down and do it if i get really bored someday
23:27<Chutt>but i doubt that
23:27<billytwowilly>yah, that's the vibe I'm getting:( doh.
23:27* billytwowillywonders what he can do to get chutt fired;)
23:30<Chutt>wouldn't change the fact that i don't have a need for such stuff
23:30* billytwowillywonders what he can do to get chutt fired and break his dvd player;)
23:31<Chutt>i need to replace my dvd player anyway
23:32<billytwowilly>heh, why replace when you can just add a dvd player to your mythtv box?;)
23:32<billytwowilly>nudge, nudge, wink, wink;)
23:32<Chutt>well, for one thing, i currently have a 5 disc changer :p
23:32<Chutt>i'd like to keep it that way
23:32<billytwowilly>hmm. you actually watch 5 dvds in a row?
23:32<billytwowilly>that's impressive;)
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23:33<Chutt>eh, it's nice for stuff like the lotr dvd
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23:33<billytwowilly>do you own the lotr dvd?
23:34<billytwowilly>hmm. just put two dvd roms into the mythbox;) there's only two dvds for the movie itself anyway;)
23:34<billytwowilly>nudge nudge, wink, wink;)
23:34<Chutt>heh, silly
23:34<billytwowilly>hey man, I'm all about saving you money;)
23:34<billytwowilly>5 disc dvd change sounds expensive. 2 dvd rom's are really inexpensive;)
23:35<billytwowilly>or get a 5 disc dvd rom;) save shelf space;)
23:37<billytwowilly>hey man, if you got a zaurus with a cd wireless card you could control your mythtv box from another room with picture;) how cool would that be?;)
23:37<Chutt>thought about that
23:37<billytwowilly>I think I brought it up in here a month ago;)
23:38<Chutt>but, like, it'd be even less used than mythtv
23:38<billytwowilly>you don't use mythtv?
23:38<Chutt>no, i meant by other people
23:38<billytwowilly>oh.. right;) well, I'd use the zaurus thing;)
23:39<billytwowilly>once I got a zaurus;)
23:39<billytwowilly>I'm just throwing around ideas, trying to sell you on some things that'd be cool at the moment;) you must be a smart guy, cuz you don't seem to be buying it;)
23:43<billytwowilly>hmmm. I thought for sure you could get a 5 disc changer for your computer, but I can't find one on google..
23:44<Chutt>anyway, bbl
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