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02:16 | <PeteCool> | does cvs automatically remove advertisements from the recorded shows (is that even possible?) |
02:17 | <PeteCool> | The todo list has some stuff about editing video and removing ads - which is marked as completed |
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03:22 | <Soopizzle> | hi |
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13:55 | <Soopizzle> | wow |
13:55 | <Soopizzle> | this chan has been dead silent lately |
13:58 | <mdz_> | it's refreshing |
13:59 | <Soopizzle> | heheh |
13:59 | <Soopizzle> | happy new years mdz |
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15:35 | <rkulagow> | mdz, chutt, you there? |
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15:38 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: yep |
15:41 | <rkulagow> | mdz, i've taken the ntsc-cc code from xawtv and stripped it of extraneous stuff. right now, it reads /dev/vbi and prints close caption to the console. how would something like that fit into the existing code? i'm guessing tv_play, and we'd only do it during live tv since i wouldn't plan on saving CC and trying to sync it later... |
15:43 | <Chutt> | be nice to save it in the video file |
15:44 | <Chutt> | and you'd have to, for live-tv, anyway |
15:45 | <rkulagow> | i suppose that's because we don't know which frontend is going to be accessing each /dev/vbi, so it's got to be in the stream somewhere, correct? |
15:45 | <rkulagow> | on localhost, it's easy, but not once the seperation happens... |
15:45 | <Chutt> | right |
15:47 | <mdz_> | yeah, it probably belongs in the stream |
15:48 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. i'm rapidly going to be over my head at this point. all i've got is code that i've butchered for the most part, and i wouldn't know enough of the internals of myth to know how it would fit in. you guys want it? i really don't have the cycles at this point to start grokking all of the myth code... |
15:48 | <rkulagow> | ...i'll understand if you say, "come back when you have a patch" |
15:48 | <Chutt> | maybe eventually, but i don't have time at the moment |
15:48 | <mdz_> | if it's not huge, send it to the list so folk can see it |
15:49 | <rkulagow> | it's 7k bytes of c code. too much? |
15:49 | <mdz_> | would the osd stuff make it easy to display CC stuff if the data were there? |
15:49 | <mdz_> | I don't know how any of that works, though |
15:49 | <mdz_> | is it time-coded? |
15:50 | <Chutt> | mdz, probably, you can tell it when and where to display a line of text |
15:50 | <Chutt> | and for how long |
15:50 | <Chutt> | i don't know about the CC stuff, though |
15:50 | <mdz_> | 7k is not too much in my book, I'm a little curious about it |
15:50 | <rkulagow> | i think on most tv's, they show the last 4 lines of text. |
15:50 | <mdz_> | but since I almost never use captions, I'm not jumping to integrate it right now |
15:51 | <rkulagow> | i understand... |
15:51 | <mdz_> | I have a general idea of how I think it should look, but it's not founded in any closed captioning reality |
15:53 | <rkulagow> | ok, i'll post it to the list then and see if anyone wants to do anything with it... |
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18:31 | <meth> | anyone ever have desynced sound? |
18:31 | <meth> | worked before but now sound is all whack |
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18:43 | <meth> | arg |
18:50 | <meth> | this is odd |
18:50 | <meth> | still cant get sound to sync |
18:50 | <Chutt> | 4th question in the faq |
18:54 | <meth> | line-in is muted |
18:54 | <meth> | and set to record |
18:54 | <meth> | pcm is turned up |
18:55 | <meth> | i run mythtv once and it stops line-in from recording |
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18:58 | <meth> | heh |
18:58 | <meth> | o well |
19:00 | <pheller> | anyone ever seen anything strange, like when mythtv executes, the screen turns blue, however alt-tabbing to anything with black allows the video to be seen? |
19:00 | <pheller> | this is very odd... |
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19:01 | <meth> | weird |
19:01 | <meth> | i cant even figure out how to get my sound synced back up |
19:02 | <meth> | rebooted and it broke |
19:02 | <meth> | no alsa to screw up either |
19:02 | <meth> | automaticly deseletcs record on line when mythtv starts |
19:02 | <meth> | heh |
19:04 | <Chutt> | mythtv doesn't touch the mixer at all. |
19:05 | <meth> | well something makes it click off mute i dunno |
19:05 | <meth> | er |
19:05 | <meth> | record |
19:05 | <meth> | heh |
19:05 | <meth> | pcm > lock > vol. up |
19:05 | <meth> | line > lock > mute > rec > vol. up |
19:05 | <meth> | quit out of mixer |
19:05 | <meth> | start mythtv |
19:05 | <meth> | no sound |
19:06 | <meth> | line is no longer selected to record |
19:06 | <Chutt> | feel free to look for where it changes mixer settings |
19:06 | <Chutt> | you'll have quite a hard time |
19:06 | <meth> | where what does? myth? |
19:06 | <Chutt> | yup |
19:06 | <meth> | oh |
19:06 | <meth> | heh |
19:06 | <meth> | if you say it doesnt touch it it doesnt touch it |
19:06 | <meth> | but i have no idea why the sound is now desnyced when it wasnt before |
19:06 | <meth> | and archives didnt help much |
19:06 | <meth> | i dont use alsa |
19:10 | <pheller> | cool, g400 bios update fixed the blue screen problem. |
19:18 | <tncollison> | Are there any plans to be able to run mythbackend without QT eventually? How can I help? |
19:19 | <Soopizzle> | ask chutt when he's around |
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20:42 | <pheller> | any ideas why bottom part of osd isn't showing up (even though pause display and channel number do) ?? |
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20:46 | <jasongrichmond> | anyone around? |
20:47 | <pheller> | yo |
20:47 | <jasongrichmond> | hey - I have the whole thing running. have a funny problem tho |
20:47 | <pheller> | ?? |
20:47 | <jasongrichmond> | when watching TV, if I hit ESC on keyboard, I go back to menu. But, if I hit clear on remote (which LIRC maps to ESC) i see a terminal window |
20:48 | <pheller> | that is pretty funny. |
20:48 | <pheller> | I don't think I can help you. I'm not yet that far. |
20:48 | <jasongrichmond> | annyoing too |
20:48 | <pheller> | yeah, my current annoyance is that the osd is not displaying. (the channel number, pause, etc does though). |
20:49 | <jasongrichmond> | hmm |
20:49 | <pheller> | oh, and the fact that my g400-tv is only getting mono sound right now. |
20:50 | <pheller> | but, the upside is that the g400-tv with hardware mjpeg is really easy on the cpu. eg: this is doing live tv: |
20:50 | <pheller> | 1599 root 9 0 15968 15M 11460 R 9.5 3.0 0:34 mythfrontend |
20:50 | <pheller> | 1591 root 9 0 34632 17M 6804 S 0.5 3.5 0:03 mythbackend |
20:50 | <jasongrichmond> | nice |
20:50 | <pheller> | yeah, that makes me very happy. |
20:50 | <jasongrichmond> | what proc? |
20:51 | <pheller> | athlon xp 2000+ |
20:51 | <jasongrichmond> | I have that processor too |
20:51 | <jasongrichmond> | 40% is avg when recording 640x480, 3300 bit rate, 3-min qual, 5-max qual |
20:52 | <pheller> | wow |
20:52 | <jasongrichmond> | all that box does is sit on my tv |
20:52 | <pheller> | I still have to play around with mpeg4 recording. with the g400-tv as the capture card, mpeg4 doesn't do too well for me, but with an ati-tv wonder, it doesn't skip a beat (but does take about 50%) |
20:52 | <jasongrichmond> | got my remote almost 100% functional |
20:52 | <jasongrichmond> | except as noted above |
20:53 | <jasongrichmond> | I built it/gave to wife as xmas present |
20:53 | <pheller> | cool |
20:54 | <pheller> | you using a commercial ir solution, or did you build the lirc circuits? |
20:54 | <jasongrichmond> | built |
20:55 | <pheller> | so you built a single serial port transceiver ...? did you just combine the transmit and receive circuits on the lirc site? |
20:55 | <jasongrichmond> | don't need receive |
20:55 | <jasongrichmond> | er send |
20:55 | <jasongrichmond> | I built send |
20:55 | <jasongrichmond> | and modified the sony.pl serial script to handle my RCA box |
20:55 | <pheller> | ahh. controlling with wireless keyboard? |
20:57 | <jasongrichmond> | nope |
20:57 | <jasongrichmond> | remote |
20:57 | <jasongrichmond> | remote control to PC |
20:57 | <jasongrichmond> | mythtv issues change channel commands to directv receiver |
20:58 | <jasongrichmond> | via serial |
20:59 | <pheller> | you're using lirc on two serial ports? |
20:59 | <jasongrichmond> | lirc on com1 -- this gets commands from my remote control |
20:59 | <pheller> | neat -- took a picture of the tv with epg for a friend. came out pretty good. -- http://lessjunk.com/~pheller/mythtv.jpg |
20:59 | <jasongrichmond> | direct serial wire between PC and directv receiver on com2 |
20:59 | <pheller> | ahhh, I see. |
21:00 | <jasongrichmond> | nice pic |
21:01 | <Soopizzle> | pheller, do you have anymore pics |
21:01 | <Soopizzle> | i would love to see some more |
21:01 | <pheller> | what do you want a pic of? I can take one of whatever you want (except the osd cause it isn't working for at the moment). |
21:01 | <Soopizzle> | any and everything |
21:02 | <jasongrichmond> | soopizzie - do you not have it installed? |
21:02 | <Soopizzle> | for my curiosity, and for chut to put up on the site |
21:02 | <Soopizzle> | jasongrichmond, not yet, still fighting my nforce based computer |
21:02 | <Soopizzle> | my only other computer is a lowly 266 :( |
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21:03 | <Soopizzle> | it seems as though the nix nforce drivers, a radeon 7500 vivo, and an ati tv wonder ve don't really get along very well |
21:03 | <jasongrichmond> | gotta run - have a good one |
21:04 | <rob_c> | Can anyone answer a question on autostarting MythTV on system boot |
21:05 | <Soopizzle> | rob_c, either cron it, or add an init.d command |
21:07 | <Soopizzle> | pheller, ummm... epg, recording, timeshifting |
21:07 | <Soopizzle> | anything that looks cool really |
21:12 | <pheller> | well, now that you got me on it, I'm lighting up the tv to do better photos. |
21:16 | <rob_c> | Soopizzle: I have a script located in ~/.kde/Autostart that starts irxevent and then mythfrontend |
21:17 | <rob_c> | the problem is that it only runs after the first user login |
21:17 | <rob_c> | should I abandone this approach |
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21:32 | <pheller> | ok, by popular request: http://lessjunk.com/~pheller/gallery/mythtv |
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22:01 | <Chutt> | pheller, you changed the font sizes a bit? |
22:02 | <pheller> | don't think so.... looking |
22:02 | <pheller> | what are the default sizes? |
22:02 | <Chutt> | heh, i don't recall right off |
22:03 | <Chutt> | stuff looks bigger, though |
22:03 | <pheller> | ahh yeah, I must have. that fixed a scaling problem. |
22:04 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:04 | <pheller> | 12/14/16 is what I'm on now. it was on like 18/24/30 |
22:04 | <Chutt> | defaults are 12/16/25 |
22:05 | <Chutt> | just noticed some stuff was a tad too big |
22:05 | <Chutt> | and i never fixed the rip dialog, did i |
22:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:05 | <Chutt> | the weird backgrounds behind the labels |
22:05 | <pheller> | yeah... oh well. fine for me :-) |
22:06 | <Chutt> | what's your cpu usage with decimation 1? |
22:06 | <pheller> | hmm, this didn't fix my osd problem though. can you think of a reason that the channel number would display, but not the overlay on the bottom? |
22:06 | <Chutt> | not right offhand, no |
22:06 | <Chutt> | what's the osdtheme set to? |
22:07 | <pheller> | blue |
22:07 | <Chutt> | no, that's not an osd theme |
22:07 | <Chutt> | =) |
22:07 | <pheller> | where is the osdtheme set in the gui? |
22:07 | <Chutt> | under theme, 4th or 5th page |
22:08 | <pheller> | hmmh, I only have two pages on theme. |
22:08 | <Chutt> | err, sorry |
22:08 | <Chutt> | playback |
22:09 | <pheller> | ahh... blueosd |
22:09 | <Chutt> | when's your cvs checkout from? |
22:10 | <pheller> | checking... |
22:12 | <pheller> | looks like 12/29 ~ 19:00 |
22:13 | <Chutt> | yeah, that should be fixed in current cvs |
22:13 | <Chutt> | i think that fix went in yesterday |
22:13 | <Chutt> | the blueosd wasn't scaling the y position of the program info display properly |
22:13 | <Chutt> | well, the osd code wasn't for the blueosd's stuff =) |
22:14 | <mdz> | Chutt: do you think the osd stuff should be moved under theme? |
22:14 | <pheller> | alright, I'll rebuild |
22:14 | <Chutt> | it worked fine at x480 |
22:14 | <Chutt> | pheller, i'll have a mythmusic update that fixes the rip screen in shortly, too =) |
22:14 | <Chutt> | mdz, i dunno |
22:14 | <Chutt> | probably |
22:14 | <Chutt> | moving stuff is so easy =) |
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22:15 | <mdz> | I think it probably should |
22:15 | <pheller> | I'll test decimation=1 cpu util in a few minutes.... |
22:16 | <Chutt> | cool |
22:16 | <Chutt> | backend should be identical |
22:16 | <Chutt> | maybe a little higher |
22:16 | <Chutt> | but i'm curious to see what the frontend uses |
22:16 | <mdz> | the theme section could be more of a 'UI' group of settings |
22:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
22:17 | <mdz> | it already is that with the width/height and date/time format |
22:17 | <Chutt> | that makes more sense to call it that |
22:17 | <pheller> | my g400-tv seems to only want to capture mono audio. this is annoying. |
22:18 | <mdz> | I don't think UI or 'user interface' is a very good label for it in the menu though |
22:18 | <Chutt> | what'd be a better label? |
22:18 | <Chutt> | that's what it is |
22:18 | <pheller> | Appearance ... ? |
22:19 | <pheller> | wow, posting that url generated quite a few hits. |
22:19 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:19 | <mdz> | appearance is better I think |
22:19 | <Chutt> | yeah, i agree |
22:20 | <Chutt> | pheller, there's > 400 people on the list, figure a bunch will go see :p |
22:20 | <Chutt> | there, the cd ripping stuff's looking right now |
22:21 | <mdz> | bah, why couldn't programinfo be a proper class :-) |
22:21 | <Chutt> | bah |
22:21 | <Chutt> | it started out as just a structure |
22:21 | <mdz> | it shows |
22:22 | <Chutt> | yeah yeah |
22:22 | <Chutt> | soon as this cd rips, i'll rename theme to appearance and move the osd stuff over |
22:22 | <Chutt> | i wonder if jason'll be back |
22:22 | <Chutt> | i want better web log analysis |
22:22 | <Chutt> | =) |
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22:23 | <mdz> | I just did the rename |
22:23 | <pheller> | nice, osd all better. |
22:23 | <Chutt> | ok, fine, you can |
22:24 | <Chutt> | i'm not real happy with how the osd fonts look at that low of a resolution |
22:24 | <Chutt> | but i'm not sure how to handle making them better |
22:24 | <Chutt> | 352x240 just looks bad blown up to full screen :( |
22:24 | <pheller> | the pause button is the most noticeably poor. |
22:25 | <Chutt> | hmm |
22:25 | <pheller> | what if you dropped the black shadow? |
22:25 | <Chutt> | maybe |
22:25 | <Chutt> | it's hard to see on the wrong kind of background, then |
22:25 | <pheller> | true.... |
22:26 | <Chutt> | i wonder how expensive it'd be to software scale up tiny resolutions like that by double |
22:26 | <Chutt> | just double everything |
22:26 | <Chutt> | then the osd could be higher res |
22:26 | <jasongrichmond> | issac - I need to get urchin fixed - I have a bug report in with them. Then you can have better web analytics ;-) |
22:26 | <Chutt> | jason, excellent =) |
22:26 | <Chutt> | thanks |
22:26 | <jasongrichmond> | yup |
22:27 | <Chutt> | pheller, was the preview window in the epg scaled improperly, as well? |
22:27 | <Chutt> | in that shot you have on your site |
22:28 | <pheller> | yes. |
22:28 | <mdz> | scaling is surprisingly expensive |
22:28 | <Chutt> | that also should be fixed |
22:28 | <mdz> | I guess it eats memory bus bandwidth |
22:29 | <pheller> | so, decimation 1 quality 50 hits about ~ 26% cpu between front and backend, but there is some skipping every 2 seconds. |
22:29 | <mdz> | Chutt: heh, did you see liscio's mail to the list |
22:29 | <pheller> | but it looks a hell of alot better. |
22:29 | <mdz> | so he finally crammed in all that stuff built-in on the board and what not, and now there is a problem with the sound :-) |
22:29 | <Chutt> | pheller, probably disk stuff |
22:30 | <Chutt> | might be network speed, too |
22:30 | <Chutt> | come to think of it |
22:30 | <Chutt> | mdz, yeah, that was fairly funny =) |
22:31 | <pheller> | hmmh, the options menu (when exiting a recording) looks especially bad at this quality level. |
22:32 | <pheller> | and the selector box doesn't line up properly with the text |
22:32 | <Chutt> | decimation 1? |
22:32 | <Chutt> | or 2? |
22:32 | <pheller> | 2 |
22:32 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:32 | <Chutt> | yeah, there's likely problems there |
22:32 | <Chutt> | i do all my testing at 640x480 =) |
22:32 | <pheller> | oh nice, scaling looks much better in the epg now |
22:33 | <mdz> | could put the OSD in another window over the video window, instead of painting it in |
22:33 | <mdz> | sounds hard to get right though |
22:33 | <Chutt> | but then you can't do cool stuff with it |
22:33 | <mdz> | what sort of cool stuff? |
22:33 | <pheller> | transparency |
22:33 | <Chutt> | alpha blending into the video |
22:33 | <Chutt> | those fun little fades, etc |
22:33 | <mdz> | hmm |
22:33 | <pheller> | which is definitely a necessity. :-) |
22:33 | <mdz> | X doesn't have real alpha channels? |
22:34 | <Chutt> | hell no |
22:34 | <mdz> | hmm |
22:34 | <Chutt> | not between windows |
22:34 | <Chutt> | maybe eventually |
22:34 | <mdz> | 4,000 years of window system evolution, and what do we have... |
22:34 | <Chutt> | but not now =) |
22:34 | <_shad> | I think 4.2 or cvs has some of that shit now |
22:34 | <Chutt> | i doubt it'd work with xv stuff, anyway |
22:34 | <Soopizzle> | pheller, are you running a resolution over 640x480? |
22:34 | <Soopizzle> | or is your overscan slightly off |
22:35 | <Chutt> | his overscan on his tv is slightly off, and he was running with larger fonts than the default when he took those shots |
22:35 | <Soopizzle> | oh ok |
22:35 | <Soopizzle> | either way, those ss are sweet |
22:35 | <pheller> | I'm retaking the pictures now that osd is working... |
22:35 | <mdz> | true, that'd be hard to get it to work with xv |
22:36 | <Chutt> | pheller, do one of the rip dialog if you don't mind |
22:36 | <Chutt> | now that i fixed that =) |
22:36 | <Soopizzle> | heheheh |
22:36 | <Soopizzle> | narcisist :P |
22:36 | <Chutt> | naw |
22:37 | <Chutt> | i thought i had fixed all those problems a long time ago |
22:37 | <Chutt> | pheller, oh, you need to upgrade to gallery 1.3.3 |
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22:37 | <Chutt> | pheller, i'd recommend doing it _now_ =) |
22:37 | <Chutt> | remote exploit |
22:38 | <Soopizzle> | hahah |
22:38 | <Chutt> | gallery's cool, i use it myself |
22:38 | <jasongrichmond> | bed time... damn flu. catch ya later |
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22:44 | <Soopizzle> | pheller, i tihnk you just broke your gallery.php |
22:45 | <pheller> | no, I upgraded to 1.3.3 -- try now |
22:46 | <Soopizzle> | pheller, is what i am viewing this from mythtv? |
22:47 | <Soopizzle> | i mean, is this mythtv, or your webserver that was messing up? |
22:47 | <_shad> | Ok. this sucks. I need a faster puter :P |
22:47 | <_shad> | Once you've seen 640x480, you can't go to anything lower |
22:48 | <mdz> | we need some FAQs about full duplex problems |
22:49 | <mdz> | or some kind of reliable full duplex test |
22:49 | <pheller> | the webserver is fine, I just upgraded gallery |
22:50 | <pheller> | I'll tell ya, I'll trade some pixels for cpu time. |
22:54 | <mdz> | programinfo is a confused little guy, I'm not sure what to do with him |
22:55 | <pheller> | ok, new photos uploading |
22:56 | <pheller> | is the cvs version smart enough to interrupt you when a scheduled recording approaches yet? |
22:56 | <Chutt> | nope |
22:57 | <pheller> | ahh |
23:12 | <pheller> | what are folks using for a solution to automagically bring up mythfrontend once their machine boots? |
23:16 | <mdz> | a shell script? |
23:19 | <pheller> | well, right, I was just wondering if anyone had some super ingenious kde/gnome solution |
23:20 | <mdz> | Chutt: how is this adjusting of times for scheduled recordings supposed to work? |
23:21 | <mdz> | it seems to still match up the program with the scheduled recording using the start time |
23:22 | <mdz> | so if the start time were adjusted, I'd expect it to no longer find the program |
23:22 | <Chutt> | ah, in the program guide? |
23:22 | <Chutt> | that's probably true |
23:23 | <Chutt> | damn people using my cvs server right when i'm trying to update the screenshots |
23:25 | <Chutt> | hmm |
23:26 | <Chutt> | could just assign a guid to each program |
23:26 | <mdz> | ok, I won't try to fix that then :-) |
23:26 | <Chutt> | and use that |
23:26 | <mdz> | actually I was thinking about that |
23:26 | <Chutt> | that'd make stuff simple everywhere |
23:26 | <mdz> | yeah, to simplify some other stuff |
23:26 | <mdz> | how would you generate it though? |
23:27 | <Chutt> | doesn't mysql have a standard guid generator? |
23:28 | <mdz> | dunno |
23:33 | <Chutt> | there, all new screenshots |
23:33 | <Chutt> | for the most part |
23:33 | <mdz> | screenshots of the CVS stuff? |
23:33 | <Chutt> | none of the settings stuff |
23:34 | <Chutt> | but all the updated UIs |
23:34 | <pheller> | you're welcome to use any of my tv shots if you like. |
23:34 | <Chutt> | some of the screenshots were very old =) |
23:34 | <mdz> | you're a tease |
23:34 | <mdz> | showing everyone the pretty stuff they can't have yet :-) |
23:34 | <Chutt> | pheller, ok |
23:34 | <Chutt> | i'll see |
23:35 | <Chutt> | i dunno, there's plenty of screenshots as is |
23:35 | <pheller> | it's up to you. |
23:37 | <pheller> | mythmusic is the shit. |
23:38 | <Chutt> | heh |
23:39 | <pheller> | seriously, this project is going to lead to me living an even more sedentary life. :-) |
23:39 | <Chutt> | that UI works rather well for a tv app, doesn't it? =) |
23:39 | * _shad | crys at the screenshots |
23:39 | <Chutt> | i need to bind buttons for the different actions |
23:39 | <pheller> | yeah, it really does. I gots to get ir up next. maybe I'll work on that this weekend. |
23:40 | <pheller> | have you thought about reverting the pause and backfill display to how it used to look? |
23:41 | <Chutt> | which pause and backfill display? |
23:41 | <pheller> | http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/osdpause.jpg |
23:41 | <pheller> | that one |
23:41 | <Chutt> | those themes are all still available |
23:42 | <pheller> | <insert foot into mouth> |
23:42 | <Chutt> | that's 'oldosd' |
23:42 | <Chutt> | the black one is 'defaultosd' |
23:43 | <Chutt> | you can always mix and match between em, too, those themes are really simplistic things |
23:43 | <pheller> | sure |
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