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| 10:09 | -!- | Topic for #mythtv set by Chutt at Thu Dec 12 17:39:57 |
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| 11:51 | <rkulagow> | Chutt, mdz, are you available? |
| 11:52 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: yes? |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | don't you think the separate html files works better for the website? |
| 11:54 | <rkulagow> | mdz, i'm trying to use gdb to troubleshoot an error that i'm getting in mythfrontend. i've put in handle SIG32 and handle SIG33 handle SIGTRAP nostop noprint so that program execution continues on the frontend/backend, but when I try to do live TV I get a SIGTRAP, and then that's it. the backend is creating the ringbuf file, but the frontend never goes to live video. do you guys use gdb to debug mythfrontend? |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | you might need a newer version of gdb |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't be seeing the sig32s at all |
| 11:55 | <rkulagow> | chutt: if you want seperate files, i can do that. it's not a big deal. i just realized that there wasn't a bandwidth savings since i was uploading everything anyway. |
| 11:55 | <mdz_> | I use gdb 5.3 |
| 11:56 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: how big is the single HTML file? |
| 11:56 | <rkulagow> | i've got gdb 5.2.1 from Mandrake. Let me see if there's an update. |
| 11:56 | <mdz_> | it handles the pthread signals by default, so I don't mess with it usually |
| 11:57 | <rkulagow> | single HTML is 83K, txt is 80k |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | yeah, i think it'd like it split up |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | if you don't mind |
| 11:57 | <rkulagow> | no problem. i'll re-commit shortly. |
| 11:58 | <mdz_> | the single file is much easier to search though |
| 11:58 | <mdz_> | I prefer it myself |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | yeah, but the website stuff loads faster |
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| 12:00 | <m0tion> | anyone here concidered adding dvd::rip abilities to mythtv? As in, have it start a transcoding as a nice process, so you can watch TV or something while it's encoding if you want? |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | i'd rather not have it ripping dvds unless it was just copying stuff |
| 12:01 | <mdz_> | nice -19 transcode [...] & mythfrontend |
| 12:01 | <mdz_> | done |
| 12:01 | <m0tion> | hah, i mean user selectable from a menu |
| 12:01 | <m0tion> | i just thought it'd be a neat idea |
| 12:02 | <mdz_> | ideas are only neat when they come with patches |
| 12:02 | <mdz_> | :-D |
| 12:03 | <m0tion> | yea, i know =\ |
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| 15:12 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what do you think about the mythfilldatabase/tv_grab_uk thing? |
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| 16:46 | <Chutt> | mdz, i'd kinda like to make sure that it gets into an official xmltv release |
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| 16:51 | <mdz_> | Chutt: likewise |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | or at least going into it |
| 16:51 | <mdz_> | I see no problem with the UI, they can always configure it by hand |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:51 | <mdz_> | but mythfilldatabase should work with the released xmltv |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | well, i don't have a problem requiring a cvs xmltv for cvs mythtv =) |
| 16:52 | <mdz_> | except in the unlikely event that mythtv releases first |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | yeah, but even then, it'd be for the uk grabber |
| 16:52 | <Chutt> | which i really don't care about, so.. |
| 17:05 | <mdz_> | I am going to start filtering all mythtv-dev email with 'hardware' in the subject to /dev/null |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 17:07 | <nevertheless> | hehe :) |
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| 17:36 | <Chutt> | so, new gcc tomorrow |
| 17:36 | <mdz_> | they said that yesterday |
| 17:36 | <Chutt> | it got uploaded after today's run, apparently |
| 17:36 | <mdz_> | oh, it's in incoming now, yep |
| 17:36 | <mdz_> | http://incoming.debian.org/gcc-defaults_1.3_i386.changes |
| 17:37 | <mdz_> | fortunately I only maintain one C++ library package these days |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:37 | <mdz_> | I dumped a couple a few months ago, just in time |
| 17:38 | <mdz_> | and I doubt anyone anywhere would notice if I broke libflac++ |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | i wonder if anyone uses it |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | making a c++ wrapper library is silly, since the c library is much more useful |
| 17:43 | <mdz_> | I'm sure the API is a lot nicer in C++ |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | probably, but that's not really the point |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | the api can't get much _worse_ than the C api |
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| 18:10 | <m0tion> | is there a place on the website that has the CVS commands? |
| 18:12 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 18:12 | <mdz_> | http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs_16.html |
| 18:15 | <m0tion> | thx |
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| 19:48 | <toothpick> | Have you gotten mythtv working with a crystal soundfusion card? |
| 19:48 | <toothpick> | Or is there a hardware faq? |
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| 20:17 | <toothpick> | Have you gotten mythtv working with a crystal soundfusion card? |
| 20:17 | <toothpick> | Or is there a hardware faq? |
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| 20:34 | <OrangeSu1> | hey guys! |
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| 21:00 | <toothpick> | Have you gotten mythtv working with a crystal soundfusion card? |
| 21:00 | <toothpick> | Or is there a hardware faq? |
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| 21:01 | <hurdel> | hwody all |
| 21:02 | <hurdel> | to upgrade from 0.7 - cvs i just need to run mysql < database/0-7-to-0-8.sql? |
| 21:02 | <hurdel> | and make distclean;make, make install of course |
| 21:03 | <hurdel> | well, that's what i'm going to do :D |
| 21:03 | <OrangeSu1> | hehehe. |
| 21:03 | <OrangeSu1> | Do you have lots of saved video from 0.7? |
| 21:03 | <hurdel> | some |
| 21:04 | <hurdel> | i dumped my whole schema/records just in case i need to rebuild |
| 21:04 | <OrangeSu1> | well, i had some trouble upgrading.. so I ended up just wiping my whole database and starting over.. worked well.. |
| 21:05 | <OrangeSu1> | but if you have a bunch of recordings, that may not really be an option for you.. |
| 21:05 | <hurdel> | did you get yoru saved video back in? |
| 21:05 | <OrangeSu1> | I erased it. |
| 21:05 | <hurdel> | well, i can always go back to 0.7 if i need to |
| 21:05 | <OrangeSu1> | Cut my losses, if you will ; ) |
| 21:05 | <hurdel> | but i can just re-insert my data to the recorded table if it gets toasted (i hope =) |
| 21:05 | <OrangeSu1> | well, why not rename the whole database, make a new one, and then import back the parts that contain the saved video? |
| 21:06 | <OrangeSu1> | there's been an active convo on this in the mailing list, if you're following. |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | there shouldn't be any issues upgrading |
| 21:06 | <hurdel> | been following some, not all threads |
| 21:06 | <hurdel> | Chutt: music to my ears |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | and you just said you backed everything up, so, no worries what so ever |
| 21:07 | <hurdel> | the wife is sleeping, have to act fast |
| 21:07 | <OrangeSu1> | chutt!! Quick question.. How averse are you to the development of a windows-based client? would it (theoretically) work with the server you're making? |
| 21:07 | <OrangeSu1> | I see the main component of it as the windows codec.. |
| 21:08 | <OrangeSu1> | and I think i'm making some progress on that front.. |
| 21:13 | <mdz> | OrangeSun: assuming by 'client' you mean a frontend |
| 21:13 | <mdz> | I don't see how a windows codec would fit into it |
| 21:13 | <mdz> | since the backend does all of the encoding |
| 21:13 | <OrangeSu1> | well, right now there's no way of playing the files in windows, right? |
| 21:13 | <OrangeSu1> | so you need a codec to play.. |
| 21:13 | <OrangeSu1> | yeah, I mean simply a frontend. |
| 21:14 | <OrangeSu1> | before the whole back/frontend split, I had some stalled efforts to get a codec going simply so I could samba the file and play it back from windows.. |
| 21:14 | <OrangeSu1> | for me personally, this is an important issue, as my main system is a windows system, and that's where i would prefer to do all my playing.. |
| 21:21 | <hurdel> | my upgrade seems to have broken my live tv watching |
| 21:21 | <hurdel> | watching old recorded stuff works fine |
| 21:22 | <hurdel> | i get "connection timed out" when trying to watch live tv |
| 21:23 | <OrangeSu1> | hurdel: I had the same issue.. |
| 21:23 | <hurdel> | Chutt: any idea what's up? |
| 21:24 | <OrangeSu1> | hurdel: just check out your backend_settings.txt file. |
| 21:24 | <hurdel> | epg works, pre-recorded video works |
| 21:24 | <OrangeSu1> | make sure it's kosher, and then reboot your backend and frontend. |
| 21:25 | <hurdel> | i'm on it |
| 21:26 | <hurdel> | _sigh_, ip was wrong |
| 21:27 | <hurdel> | where do i set the location of the ringbuf.nuv file? |
| 21:27 | <hurdel> | is that part of the gui now or not? |
| 21:28 | <OrangeSu1> | hmm. |
| 21:28 | <OrangeSu1> | what do you mean? |
| 21:29 | <hurdel> | it's correct in my settings.txt, (/myth/ringbuf.nuv) but backend is trying to write /ringbuf1.nuv |
| 21:29 | <hurdel> | crashing when i try to watch live tv |
| 21:29 | <hurdel> | the backend that is |
| 21:31 | <hurdel> | any clues? i can't seem to find that setting |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | hmm. |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | yeah, fix it in gui. |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | there's a spot for it there now.. |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | did you run the gui setup? |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | it's ./setup from the setup directory of the CVS. |
| 21:32 | <OrangeSu1> | so MC/setup/setup |
| 21:32 | <hurdel> | ok, didn't know that |
| 21:33 | <toothpick> | Have you gotten mythtv working with a crystal soundfusion card? |
| 21:33 | <toothpick> | Or is there a hardware faq? |
| 21:34 | <hurdel> | running ./setup now |
| 21:35 | <OrangeSu1> | toothpick: check the archives.. |
| 21:38 | <mdz> | hurdel: run setup |
| 21:39 | <hurdel> | mdz: OrangeSu: thanks guys, got it working now |
| 21:39 | <hurdel> | just scheduled recording to test |
| 21:39 | <hurdel> | ttyl |
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| 21:46 | <OrangeSu1> | hurd_away: good stuff.. |
| 21:46 | <OrangeSu1> | mdz: what do you think about that frontend thing? |
| 21:48 | <mdz> | OrangeSu1: I have no interest in windows programming |
| 21:48 | <OrangeSu1> | mdz: is it theoretically possible? |
| 21:48 | <OrangeSu1> | my main concern is about the cvs-ness of things.. |
| 21:48 | <mdz> | OrangeSu1: I know of no reason why it should not be |
| 21:48 | <OrangeSu1> | how easy is it going to be for me to port a codec and then maintain it? |
| 21:48 | <mdz> | but I haven't really looked at that part of the code |
| 21:49 | <OrangeSu1> | I guess that'll require quite a bit more knowledge on my part as to how the codec can be window-fied. |
| 21:49 | <mdz> | I have no idea |
| 21:49 | <OrangeSu1> | who does the codec code? strictly chutt? |
| 21:50 | <mdz> | he integrated that stuff |
| 21:51 | <OrangeSu1> | OK.. |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | the codec is simple |
| 21:51 | <OrangeSu1> | simple? |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | but I have no idea about the windows aspect |
| 21:51 | <OrangeSu1> | Alright.. |
| 21:51 | <OrangeSu1> | well, it would be *super* easy to get a basic client going on once the codec is out of the way.. |
| 21:51 | <mdz> | if you know how to write directshow drivers or whatever, it should be no problem for you |
| 21:52 | <OrangeSu1> | ehem. right.. |
| 21:52 | <OrangeSu1> | I don't.. and the problem is that the whole field of codecs in windows seems to be esoteric |
| 21:52 | <OrangeSu1> | I've been playing with the Directshow SDK a good long while, though |
| 21:54 | <OrangeSu1> | hehehe. |
| 21:54 | <OrangeSu1> | I think I've found a way to cheat.. |
| 21:54 | <OrangeSu1> | I'm going to diff the MythTV nuppelvideo f/ Linux codec with the original nupelvideo |
| 21:55 | <OrangeSu1> | and then try to implement those changes across the windows nuppelvideo codec. |
| 21:55 | <OrangeSu1> | : ) |
| 21:59 | <OrangeSu1> | hmmm. seems there's no windows nuppelvideo codec.. |
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| 22:35 | <Soopizzle> | hola |
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| 23:38 | <_shad> | I hate wirewrapping :( |
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