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09:36 | <hurdel> | morning |
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10:30 | lichen | lichen_ Jan 08 10:30:20 <mdz_> lichen_: did you take the plunge? |
10:30 | <mdz_> | it's really quite harmless and reversible |
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11:12 | <lichen> | hey sorry i was in class.. it compiled alright, i didn't make install though.. i suppose ill go ahead and do it though if just a make install on the current cvs will clear it all up? |
11:30 | <hurdel> | myth keeps locking up my machine, totally, dead lock, usually when i set it to record overnight, it does the recording, and then dies |
11:31 | <hurdel> | cvs from 2 days ago as well as 0.7 |
11:31 | <hurdel> | how can myth totally hose my system when i'm not running it as root? |
11:32 | <Chutt> | it can't |
11:32 | <hurdel> | it does |
11:32 | <hurdel> | every night |
11:32 | <hurdel> | i don't run myth, no lock |
11:32 | <Chutt> | it can't |
11:33 | <Chutt> | user programs cannot lock up the system |
11:33 | <hurdel> | that's what i thought |
11:33 | <hurdel> | it happens _almost_ every time |
11:33 | <hurdel> | can't even ssh in |
11:34 | <Chutt> | so you've either got a hardware problem or a driver problem. |
11:34 | <hurdel> | then check is forced on the file system on reboot |
11:34 | <hurdel> | i'm guessing something to do with power management, myth works perfectly if i stick around |
11:34 | <hurdel> | but i turned it off in kde |
11:35 | <hurdel> | i'll try anything |
11:35 | <hurdel> | in 0.7 it would not add the recording to the db, even tho it was there |
11:36 | <hurdel> | in cvs, it is adding the recording to db |
11:36 | <Chutt> | i really don't care what it's doing |
11:36 | <Chutt> | the problem is external to mythtv |
11:38 | lichen | lichen_ Jan 08 11:39:04 <mdz_> lichen: yeah, if you want to go back, just make install the old stuff. all the files are the same |
11:39 | <hurdel> | i'm not blaming myth, but myth seems to be triggering the problem, and i'd like to be able to track it down |
11:40 | <Chutt> | so track it down |
11:40 | <lichen> | okay cool, ill do it when i get home then, i would do it from work but i still couldn't add the program listings |
11:41 | <lichen> | er, schedule the programs rather |
11:41 | <hurdel> | how, where do i start, myth works fine if i don't record overnight |
11:41 | <hurdel> | could it be something with mythfilldatabase running as a cron job at 4AM? |
11:42 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> so you've either got a hardware problem or a driver problem. |
11:43 | <hurdel> | <hurdel> how, where do i start |
11:45 | <Chutt> | how would i know? |
11:45 | <Chutt> | i don't know anything about your computer. |
11:46 | <Chutt> | it's _yours_ |
11:46 | <hurdel> | _sigh_, whatever |
11:47 | <Chutt> | there's enough people trying to get their crappy hardware working on the mailing list |
11:47 | <Chutt> | i don't want that in here as well |
11:47 | <mythtv> | `Chutt: For anti-aliasing, I just need to set that up on my end right? I don't need to program anything special for it do i? |
11:47 | <Chutt> | of course |
11:48 | <mythtv> | heh, my name is mythtv for some reason |
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11:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
11:51 | <Chutt> | does qtconfig let you turn on AA? |
11:51 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure.. |
11:51 | <hurdel> | Chutt : sorry, just thought maybe others were having the same trouble |
11:58 | <mdz_> | the way to find out would be to search the mailing list archives |
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12:06 | <m0tion> | what kinda of remotes are you guys using to control your boxes? |
12:07 | <mdz_> | I use the ATI remote |
12:07 | <moegreen> | m0tion: I've got a Sony remote that was used for a DirecTV box |
12:09 | <m0tion> | yea, i'm having trouble picking one out i like |
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12:50 | <PhazE3> | Chutt: If you are interested in getting some of the "My hardware doesnt work fix it" clutter of the dev mailing list your welcome to link my site http://www.higheriq.com (LinuxPvrHardware Mailing List) in you mailing list section. |
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14:49 | <TREllis> | evening' |
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15:10 | <Chutt> | moegreen, figure out the anti-aliasing stuff? |
15:17 | <vektor> | anti-aliasing? |
15:18 | <Chutt> | in qt |
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15:48 | <Universe> | Chutt... the project was mentioned in a /. comment again |
15:48 | <Universe> | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/08/1847201&mode=thread&tid=109 |
15:48 | <mdz_> | and they compare it to vdr |
15:49 | <mdz_> | which is completely different |
15:52 | <TREllis> | hi |
15:52 | * TREllis | loves to look of mythtv :) |
15:52 | <TREllis> | just need to get it installed :) |
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15:53 | <TREllis> | i've tried those gentoo ebuilds in the howto, but they dont work for some reason or another |
15:53 | <rcaskey> | will there be .debs for .8? |
15:57 | <TREllis> | hmm developers died now :/ |
15:57 | <TREllis> | oh well... back to revision :( |
16:04 | <mdz_> | rcaskey: of course |
16:04 | <mdz_> | but only after it's released |
16:04 | <rcaskey> | ok, just checking |
16:05 | <rcaskey> | will .8 support reencoding? |
16:05 | <mdz_> | nobody is working on that to my knowledge |
16:05 | <mdz_> | so no |
16:06 | <mdz_> | Chutt: are you getting stats for the new site yet? |
16:22 | <Chutt> | not really |
16:23 | <Chutt> | i've got access to the raw logs, though |
16:31 | <PeteCool> | hmm, is the guy who made the gentoo ebuilds part of the mythtv dev team/group? |
16:32 | <Chutt> | nope |
16:32 | <PeteCool> | and the guy who does the .debs ? |
16:33 | <Chutt> | that's mdz |
16:33 | <Chutt> | and he's done quite a bit of code |
16:33 | <PeteCool> | mdz: IIRC you need to have a rules file to build a .deb, right? |
16:37 | <PeteCool> | mdz: could I have that file, so that I can make cvs .debs, which would be simple to remove... as long as I have the needed file(s) I can figure out the other stuff by myself |
16:38 | <Chutt> | petecool, the necessary files come in the diff he distributes |
16:40 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: I see them now.. thanks :) |
16:49 | <Chutt> | heh, something like 1650 hits from slashdot |
16:49 | <Chutt> | tiny |
17:02 | <mdz_> | PeteCool: but those won't work too well for CVS |
17:02 | <mdz_> | since the library name has changed |
17:02 | <mdz_> | I've split up the packaging for the 0.8 release |
17:03 | <mdz_> | I have debs of CVS that I use, but I don't want to distribute them because I don't want to support them, or upgrades from them |
17:03 | <Chutt> | heh |
17:04 | <PeteCool> | mdz_: uh, I don't need you to support them if they somewhat work... if they work great, then, great :) |
17:04 | <mdz_> | I wonder how many hits the VDR guys got |
17:05 | <Chutt> | they were mentioned in popular science a few months back |
17:05 | <PeteCool> | mdz_: when I'm ready to install them (I should be getting that tv tuner soon), could I have a copy of them? |
17:06 | <PeteCool> | mdz_: 0.8 might happen before then anyway, though |
17:06 | <Chutt> | i wonder how hard it'd be to get mythmusic backend aware |
17:08 | <mdz_> | PeteCool: if you promise, in writing, not to complain to me even if the final 0.8 packages trash your entire system, maybe ;-) |
17:09 | <Universe> | lol.. |
17:09 | <Chutt> | what was i going to work on |
17:10 | <PeteCool> | mdz_: as long as the packages aren't made to trash the system, no problem :) |
17:10 | <mdz_> | I hear the backend segfaults if it can't open the ringbuffer |
17:10 | <mdz_> | hehe |
17:10 | <mdz_> | PeteCool: I make no guarantees :-P |
17:10 | <Chutt> | mdz, bah |
17:11 | <PeteCool> | it will be a dedicated box anyway, so it wouldn't be such a big problem |
17:11 | <mdz_> | I'm surprised there weren't a ton of mailing list messages when you changed the ring buffer path option |
17:11 | <mdz_> | I guess a lot of people must use the default |
17:13 | <Chutt> | there were a couple |
17:13 | <Chutt> | and the one was early enough that people that were paying attention should've caught the email |
17:13 | <Chutt> | and i've done enough bitching about people complaining about cvs problems that everyone's hesitant to email about stuff like that =) |
17:14 | <mdz_> | heh |
17:24 | <Universe> | wait, wait... I can start emailing you about cvs problems.. |
17:24 | <Universe> | if you want.. |
17:26 | <PhazE3> | lol |
17:27 | <Chutt> | i need a new website design |
17:27 | <PhazE3> | Why doesnt MythTV Think for me? It would be so much easier if it did. and while your making that happen can you also make it so it fixes all the hardware issues in pc :) |
17:27 | <Universe> | yes you do Chutt.. |
17:27 | <Universe> | something more interesting |
17:28 | <_shad> | I wonder how big a complete linux distro with just mythtv would be |
17:30 | <_shad> | heh. mythtv slashdotted again? |
17:30 | <Chutt> | the website should be fine |
17:31 | <lichen_> | oh yeah i was gonna test out mdz's patch |
17:32 | <mdz_> | good idea |
17:32 | <mdz_> | _shad: "complete" + "with just mythtv"? |
17:33 | <mdz_> | mythtv makes a nice PVR, but it's not really a complete Linux distribution by itself |
17:33 | <lichen_> | seems ot be working, no errors |
17:33 | <lichen_> | its counting down the seconds until the show |
17:33 | <lichen_> | i scheduled it to always record a show anywhere |
17:34 | <mdz_> | yeah I left that uncommented in the patch I sent you |
17:34 | <Chutt> | mdz, going to send me an updated patch? |
17:34 | <lichen_> | okay, anything in particular i should try? or just play around with it and see if it breaks? |
17:34 | <Chutt> | i'm going to dinner in a minute, though =) |
17:35 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I'll send you what's in my working directory now |
17:35 | <mdz_> | it compiles, but I can't link anything unless I use gcc 2.95 or get a new libqt3 |
17:35 | <mdz_> | which reminds me, which kde3 repository do you use? |
17:36 | <Chutt> | the repository's gone |
17:36 | <Chutt> | it was at hobbiton.opendoorsoftware.com |
17:36 | <PeteCool> | is it technically possible to automatically remove ads (by analysing fades / volume (ads are MUCH louder here, nearly twice louder)) |
17:36 | <PeteCool> | (this is not a feature request :) |
17:36 | <Chutt> | mdz, you can just tell it to use the old g++, though |
17:37 | <mdz_> | Chutt: sent |
17:37 | <mdz_> | yeah, but I'd much rather get libqt3 compiler with g++ 3.2 |
17:37 | <mdz_> | s/compiler/compiled/ |
17:38 | lichen | lichen_ Jan 08 17:38:53 <mdz_> lichen_: check in the conflicts screen and make sure everything looks right |
17:39 | <PeteCool> | mdz_: I think unstable might finally have moved to gcc-3.2 yesterday... it shouldn't take more that 2~5 days to get some gcc-3.2-compiled kde3 packages, if the repository owners are quick :) |
17:40 | <_shad> | mdz: a mini distro :) |
17:40 | <mdz_> | PeteCool: I know |
17:40 | <mdz_> | PeteCool: but they've been maintaining a kde3 repository with all the stuff built with 3.2 for months |
17:40 | <lichen_> | yeahh it looks right to me |
17:40 | <mdz_> | which I wanted to grab a few packages from |
17:41 | <mdz_> | hmm, the conflictresolutionany and conflictresolutionsingle stuff could be simplified to prefer one record.recordid over another I think |
17:44 | <_shad> | hah. i go to watch a realvideo movie, and the web page comes up and says "Please install a real media player" |
17:45 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I think it's probably possible to convert the table data using only SQL...think it's a good idea? |
17:46 | <mdz_> | in 0-7-to-0-8.sql or such |
17:59 | <lichen_> | mdz with the new scheduler would it be easier to add code to pad before shows? |
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18:14 | <lichen_> | uh oh... im not able to watch tv while something is recording :( |
18:14 | <lichen_> | i can watch ap revious recording, but not recording in progress |
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18:19 | <Soopizzle> | hola |
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18:32 | <mdz> | lichen_: did it work for you before? it worked OK for me last night |
18:32 | <Chutt> | mdz, probably be best to transition existing data over, if possible |
18:32 | <lichen_> | before your patch? i dont know to be honest |
18:33 | <Chutt> | watching an in-progress recording works fine |
18:33 | <Chutt> | i was just doing it |
18:33 | <lichen_> | yeah i mean i would assume it worked.. i cant think of any reason that wouldn't work but everything else would |
18:34 | <mdz> | it worked fine for me before my modifications, as well as after |
18:35 | <lichen_> | alright well in a little bit when its done recording ill revert back and testi t out |
18:35 | <Chutt> | and you should get the busy dialog now on going to live-tv =) |
18:35 | <mdz> | heh, I learned not to try that one |
18:36 | <Chutt> | for the programinfo wire format |
18:37 | <Chutt> | just take the recordtype out, and modify the constant in programinfo.h that says how many fields there are |
18:37 | <Chutt> | save some room =) |
18:37 | <mdz> | ah, that constant was the missing piece |
18:37 | <mdz> | I tried changing it and it blew up |
18:37 | <Chutt> | ah |
18:37 | <mdz> | so I left a value in there so I could test |
18:37 | <Chutt> | yeah, if you don't change the constant, it doesn't know how many fields there are |
18:38 | <mdz> | I count 15, but the constant is 16 |
18:38 | <Chutt> | one of them is a long long |
18:38 | <Chutt> | Qt doesn't have a int64 type |
18:38 | <Chutt> | http://hobbiton.opendoorsoftware.com/ |
18:38 | <Chutt> | is back now |
18:39 | <mdz> | Qt doesn't, but ISO C does |
18:39 | <Chutt> | mdz, right, but i'm using qt's classes |
18:39 | <Chutt> | and qstring doesn't have a convertor for an int64 |
18:40 | <mdz> | that's not too good |
18:42 | <mdz> | hmm, setting CXX in setting.pro doesn't work |
18:42 | <Chutt> | just grab the qt-copy debs from that url |
18:42 | <mdz> | good idea |
18:42 | <Chutt> | then you'll need to go edit /usr/share/qt/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf |
18:43 | <mdz> | hmm, no Packages file? |
18:43 | <Chutt> | http://hobbiton.opendoorsoftware.com/debian ./ |
18:43 | <Chutt> | sorry :p |
18:44 | <mdz> | ah, there it is |
18:44 | <Chutt> | he's got QMAKE_CC and the like set to distcc |
18:44 | <Chutt> | so you need to go edit it back to gcc and g++ |
18:44 | <mdz> | hmm, his library is also called libqt3c |
18:45 | <Chutt> | it's from before the name change to whatever stupid thing they've got it at now |
18:49 | <mdz> | argh, they don't all conflict with the packages in unstable |
18:49 | <mdz> | trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libeditor.a', which is also in package libqt3-helper |
18:50 | <mdz> | I'm going to regret this, I know it |
18:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
18:50 | <Chutt> | do you use anything else qt? |
18:51 | <mdz> | nah, I don't run KDE or any of that |
18:51 | <Chutt> | so you should be fine |
18:51 | <Chutt> | could even just purge the old qt3 packages |
18:51 | <Chutt> | then just install the new ones |
18:52 | <mdz> | assuming they purge without destroying themselves :-P |
18:52 | <Chutt> | the comment on that /. article from the dave/dina author is funny |
18:53 | <Chutt> | "Please help us compete!" |
18:53 | <Soopizzle> | is there a chan for wget on openprojects? |
18:53 | <mdz> | yay, stuff links now |
18:54 | <mdz> | Soopizzle: #gnu |
18:54 | <mdz> | hmm, I have 3 nice big RTJPEG recordings today |
18:54 | <mdz> | I wonder why it didn't get the profile |
18:55 | <mdz> | heh |
18:55 | <mdz> | SELECT name FROM recordingprofiles WHERE id = 7733356 |
18:55 | <Chutt> | something not initialized |
18:56 | <mdz> | I removed the initialization for recordingprofileid in proginfo but forgot to remove it itself |
18:56 | <Soopizzle> | thanx mdz |
18:56 | <Chutt> | about 2500 referrals from /., now |
18:56 | <Chutt> | so just a minor /.ing |
18:57 | <mdz> | at least it's not your DSL |
18:57 | <Chutt> | bunch of people were hitting my cvs server at that same time, though |
18:58 | <Chutt> | i almost pulled the plug on it like i have been occasionally =) |
18:59 | <mdz> | not downloading tarballs though |
18:59 | <mdz> | hmm, this is happening way too often now |
18:59 | <mdz> | I exit a recording and end up with a blank playback menu |
18:59 | <mdz> | what was that bug you fixed today with the preview? |
18:59 | <Chutt> | nope |
18:59 | <Chutt> | that was in the epg |
19:00 | <Chutt> | that guy earlier saying the frontend was dying? |
19:00 | <Chutt> | on the list |
19:00 | <Chutt> | i think that was his problem, but... |
19:00 | <mdz> | oh, right |
19:00 | <Chutt> | i need to work out the bug in remote playback |
19:00 | <Chutt> | and figure out how to handle stuff like the channel icons |
19:01 | <Chutt> | and then do the live tv -> recording dialog and transition |
19:01 | <mdz> | heh, I broke something just now |
19:01 | <mdz> | everything shows up like it's conflicting |
19:01 | <mdz> | even in the playback screen :-) |
19:01 | <mdz> | oh, forgot to update the offsets |
19:02 | <Chutt> | that'll break the playback screen as well |
19:02 | <mdz> | that was a different build where I had the other problem |
19:03 | <Chutt> | ah |
19:03 | <mdz> | I just swapped in this one to test the proginfo stringlist stuff |
19:03 | <mdz> | that other problem has happened for a while now |
19:03 | <Chutt> | heh |
19:03 | <mdz> | but exiting back to the menu and going back in fixes it |
19:03 | <Chutt> | never seen it |
19:03 | <mdz> | so I haven't bothered to check it out |
19:03 | <Chutt> | i think i'm losing data sometimes in the transmission |
19:04 | <Chutt> | or i'm doing something wrong and losing data |
19:05 | <mdz> | ok, if lichen's machine doesn't blow up I think I'm done with this set of changes |
19:06 | <Chutt> | feel free to check stuff in |
19:06 | <mdz> | I fixed the profile thing and added code to change the times |
19:06 | <Chutt> | it all looks good to me |
19:07 | <mdz> | hmm, maybe I should write that transition SQL |
19:07 | <Chutt> | if you could just send an email to the mailing list when you're done, telling people of the change |
19:07 | <Chutt> | just to cut down on 'why doesn't stuff work?!@!@#' |
19:09 | <PeteCool> | mdz: if sometime you get a build which has no big problems, could you please save the .debs for me? ;) |
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19:10 | <mdz> | good thing that's the single subquery syntax that mysql supports |
19:13 | <Soopizzle> | HMM.... |
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19:14 | <Soopizzle> | hey vek |
19:14 | <Soopizzle> | mdz, you ever use wget before? |
19:14 | <vektor> | Hello. |
19:18 | <Soopizzle> | how goes your dscaler conversion |
19:18 | <Soopizzle> | ? |
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20:52 | <mdz> | big recording table commit is in |
20:52 | <vektor> | Soopizzle: great. |
20:58 | <PeteCool> | mdz: what does that commit do/add? |
20:59 | <mdz> | PeteCool: database reorganization |
20:59 | <mdz> | should be no visible changes |
21:07 | <Universe> | 'should' |
21:07 | <Universe> | heh |
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21:15 | <yebyen> | Chutt: you around? |
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22:46 | <moegreen> | If anyone wants to give it a shot, I've finished a majority of the MythWeather module ... http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/weather/ |
22:52 | <paperclip> | great idea |
22:55 | <moegreen> | heh, thanks, if anyone has anti-aliased font that wants to make new screenshots for me - please do. Oh, and if anyone wants to make new icons for the different types of weather, that would be great too :P |
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22:58 | <jasongrichmond> | hey everyone |
22:59 | <jasongrichmond> | anyone know where mythfilldatabase (cvs version) looks up the channel config file for xmltv? |
22:59 | <jasongrichmond> | it is giving me errors saying I have not run the setup program |
23:01 | <jasongrichmond> | specific error is no channels sources defined |
23:01 | <moegreen> | did mythfilldatabase finish running completely? |
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23:03 | <jasongrichmond> | it does not run at all |
23:03 | <jasongrichmond> | complains that there is no channel sources defined |
23:05 | <mdz> | jasongrichmond: ~/.mythtv/<source name>.xmltv |
23:05 | <jasongrichmond> | have that |
23:05 | <mdz> | is where the xmltv channel configuration is stored |
23:05 | <mdz> | but that error is about the mythtv configuration I believe |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | yep |
23:06 | <mdz> | I believe the exact error is "no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program?" |
23:06 | <mdz> | which tells you how to solve the problem :-) |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | I am trying to find the config place that tells mythtv to look for that ~/.mythtv/directv.xmltv |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | I did run the setup program |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | 3x |
23:06 | <mdz> | it is in setup |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | did not solve my problem ;-) |
23:06 | <jasongrichmond> | I know where the GUI asks for it... |
23:07 | <jasongrichmond> | I am trying to find the mysql or txt file location to verifiy that it was written down ;-) |
23:07 | <mdz> | in the setup program there is a section called "Video Sources" |
23:07 | <jasongrichmond> | did that =) |
23:07 | <jasongrichmond> | directv was listed after that step |
23:07 | <mdz> | ok, then mythfilldatabase must be having a problem connecting to the database |
23:08 | <jasongrichmond> | mythfilldatabase can run when the backend is running correct? |
23:08 | <mdz> | yes, of course |
23:09 | <jasongrichmond> | hmm... cardinput table is empty, as is channel |
23:10 | <mdz> | which grabber are you using? |
23:10 | <mdz> | channel gets filled by mythfilldatabase, so that much is normal |
23:10 | <mdz> | cardinput should not be empty though |
23:11 | <jasongrichmond> | does that channel list get populated by mythfilldatabase? |
23:11 | <mdz> | what about videosource? |
23:11 | <jasongrichmond> | videosource is listed as directv |
23:11 | <mdz> | in the database table? |
23:12 | <jasongrichmond> | videosource is directv |
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23:13 | <mdz> | no, videosource is a table |
23:13 | <mdz> | it has rows |
23:13 | <mdz> | or does not have rows |
23:14 | <jasongrichmond> | source id = 1 ;;;; name = directv |
23:14 | <mdz> | those are the only columns in your database? |
23:14 | <jasongrichmond> | in that table, yes |
23:15 | <mdz> | that's the problem then |
23:16 | <jasongrichmond> | hmm |
23:16 | <mdz> | if you're following CVS, you need to keep up with database changes |
23:16 | <mdz> | they go in database/0-7-to-0-8.sql |
23:16 | <jasongrichmond> | i have executed that one |
23:16 | <mdz> | you need to run whichever statements from there you have not run before |
23:16 | <mdz> | no, you haven't |
23:16 | <jasongrichmond> | i am not up to the day keeping up with it =) |
23:17 | <mdz> | there is a statement in there which says |
23:17 | <mdz> | ALTER TABLE videosource ADD COLUMN xmltvgrabber VARCHAR(128); |
23:17 | <mdz> | which you have not executed |
23:17 | <mdz> | and since I added that a long time ago, there are also a bunch of other things you have not run |
23:20 | <Chutt> | moegreen, still around? |
23:20 | <moegreen> | yeah |
23:21 | <Chutt> | nice work on the weather stuff |
23:21 | <moegreen> | thanks |
23:21 | <moegreen> | Is it working for you? |
23:21 | <Chutt> | happen to know why the dialog would be taller than it should be, though? |
23:21 | <Chutt> | yeah, aside from that |
23:22 | <Chutt> | i changed the font names to arial |
23:22 | <Chutt> | to get AA fonts |
23:22 | <moegreen> | I kinda noticed that too when I was taking the screenshots...I'm not sure...I used the MythDialog class and didn't set any other sizing |
23:22 | <Chutt> | the stuff in the dialog is stretching it out |
23:22 | <Chutt> | i'll check it out |
23:23 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I have a button icon for the weather, if you wanted to add it to the 'blue' theme |
23:24 | <Chutt> | sure |
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23:29 | <moegreen> | Chutt: http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/weather/weather.png |
23:29 | <Chutt> | same offset and stuff as the other icons? |
23:30 | <jasongrichmond> | mdz - that did it... that was the only line in that file that did not execute. that is strange, but problem resolved =) |
23:30 | <jasongrichmond> | thanks! |
23:30 | <moegreen> | Yeah...that seems to work |
23:30 | <jasongrichmond> | chutt -- urchin is being a huge pain in my a-- ... still waiting on them to fix the webanalytics software for me |
23:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
23:30 | <Chutt> | it'd be nice to have stuff |
23:30 | <jasongrichmond> | as soon as they are done, we will have much better web analysis |
23:31 | <jasongrichmond> | hopefully this week |
23:31 | <moegreen> | Actually a 20,20 looks a little better |
23:31 | <jasongrichmond> | or I may ask for my money back. |
23:31 | <jasongrichmond> | adios |
23:31 | <jasongrichmond> | thanks again mdz |
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23:31 | <Chutt> | moegreen, ok |
23:39 | <lichen_> | what all do i have to do after hte latest cvs commit? |
23:39 | <lichen_> | just record.sql? |
23:39 | <lichen_> | (assuming i didn't do mdz's patch) |
23:40 | <lichen_> | er record.sql is something else.. nevermind |
23:41 | <Chutt> | you need to look at the cvs stuff on the website to see what's changed in the sql files and make those changes manually |
23:42 | <lichen_> | alright |
23:47 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hey... |
23:47 | <Chutt> | hi |
23:48 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i mentioned mythtv to a friend of mine at RIT, and he seems to know a guy doing a similar thing, but geared more towards online user requests, and downloadable tv episodes |
23:48 | <yebyen> | Chutt: and anyone with a tv card could join the network... |
23:48 | <Chutt> | that's silly. |
23:48 | <yebyen> | Chutt: not really, when you consider their environment :) |
23:48 | <Chutt> | let alone askin for a c&d |
23:49 | <yebyen> | Chutt: they're in college, they have damned near inexhaustible networking (between each other), and only a few people with cable |
23:49 | <yebyen> | Chutt: asking for a c&d perhaps, but heh |
23:49 | <mdz> | lichen_: I posted a message to the mailing list explaining exactly which parts of 0-7-to-0-8.sql you need to execute |
23:49 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i was curious how much code you think it would take to make mythtv do that :) |
23:49 | <Chutt> | uh, their college doesn't have cable to each room? |
23:49 | <yebyen> | Chutt: possibly save the guy some work, seeing how much you have done already |
23:49 | <yebyen> | Chutt: well, if they pay for it :) |
23:49 | <mdz> | yebyen: what's your friend's name? |
23:49 | <Chutt> | really? |
23:49 | <Chutt> | that's rather silly |
23:50 | <yebyen> | mdz: my friend is randy, i don't know his friend |
23:50 | <yebyen> | Chutt: they have hookups in each rom |
23:50 | <yebyen> | Chutt: but you have to pay to have it activated |
23:50 | <Chutt> | moegreen, big ole '?' for 'Clear' =) |
23:50 | <yebyen> | Chutt: and regardless, if they don't have a tv card/desktop machine, they can't get in on the mythtv/tivo action |
23:51 | <moegreen> | Chutt: Yeah, I just got one of those too |
23:51 | <moegreen> | I've got a graphic for it now, and an updated weathertypes.dat |
23:52 | <yebyen> | Chutt: with the client-server stuff you've done, i had the impression that it really wouldn't take much extra code to get it to do something like this, unless you're going to tell me differently |
23:52 | <yebyen> | (not asking you to write it, heh) |
23:52 | <Chutt> | it wouldn't |
23:52 | <Chutt> | but it's not meant for stuff like that |
23:52 | <mdz> | yebyen: is your friend a CSH person by any chance? |
23:53 | <yebyen> | Chutt: what's different? i see multiple encoding boxes, but only one central storage place. |
23:53 | <yebyen> | mdz: Randy Boland, yes he is |
23:53 | <yebyen> | mdz: and i'd imagine his friend is too |
23:53 | <lichen_> | ooh looks like the latest commit kinda breaks mythweb |
23:53 | <Chutt> | lichen, just slightly =) |
23:53 | <Chutt> | yebyen, it's meant to be controlled by one central server |
23:53 | <mdz> | yebyen: I spent some time at CSH myself |
23:53 | <Chutt> | one database shared between everyone |
23:53 | <yebyen> | mdz: spiffy :) |
23:54 | <mdz> | heh, that guy on the mailing list talking about Susie Linux cracks me up |
23:54 | <yebyen> | Chutt: weren't you planning on having the ability to add more boxes with the ability to encode? |
23:54 | <mdz> | who's this Susie woman and what kind of Linux does she have? |
23:54 | <mdz> | lichen_: oh yes, mythweb will be soundly broken |
23:54 | <Chutt> | yebyen, of course |
23:55 | <Chutt> | yebyen, but they're all controlled by one master server |
23:55 | <yebyen> | Chutt: this would be too, with mythweb for an interface, but the ability to vote for shows |
23:56 | <yebyen> | Chutt: you pick what shows you want, if there's a free encoder box at that time it gets recorded, otherwise it moves to the voting |
23:56 | <lichen_> | oh wel,l i guess it will give me something to do fixing it up |
23:56 | <Chutt> | Hi Isaac, |
23:57 | <Chutt> | I was just wondering if you know if MythTV would work under cygwin? |
23:57 | <mdz> | yebyen: tell them to look at the code; I see no reason why they could not add that functionality if they want it |
23:57 | * mdz | falls over laughing |
23:57 | * pheller-- | busts his gut |
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23:57 | <Chutt> | moegreen, ok, this is frustrating trying to get it to look right =) |
23:58 | <moegreen> | Chutt: heh, I'm working on it now ... I forgot about the different resolutions :) |
23:58 | <Chutt> | well, there's that |
23:58 | <yebyen> | mdz: excellent, I just figured if there was a smoking gun of a reason why it wouldn't work, someone in here would know :) |
23:58 | <Chutt> | and stuff was getting larger than 800x600 |
00:01 | <bigguy> | hmm |
00:01 | <bigguy> | didn't phoenix change its name? |
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00:12 | <Chutt> | mdz, cool. |
00:14 | <lichen_> | mdz still around? |
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00:15 | <lichen_> | when i tried to reschedule my recordings with your diff it erred out with: |
00:15 | <lichen_> | ./mythfrontend: relocation error: ./mythfrontend: undefined symbol: setValue__15ComboBoxSettingi |
00:16 | <lichen_> | actually im just running it from where its compiled without make isntalling, is that gonna cause problems? |
00:16 | <Chutt> | yup |
00:17 | <lichen_> | that explains it, is there a clean way to install it without messing up my previous installation of it? |
00:17 | <Chutt> | nope |
00:19 | <lichen_> | oh.. wel lthats inconvenient :( |
00:27 | <bbeattie> | what type of cpu is needed to record 2 shows at once, and view one as live-tv? |
00:28 | <lichen_> | you're probably gonna want around 2.5ghz |
00:28 | <bigguy> | 3 tuners? |
00:28 | <Chutt> | a little lower than that should be fine |
00:28 | <Chutt> | but not much lower |
00:29 | <Chutt> | say, 2 or 2.1 |
00:31 | <bbeattie> | 2 tuners, |
00:31 | <bbeattie> | was the 2.5ghz for 3 or 2 tuners? |
01:15 | <bbeattie> | - and will that lower when mythtv is optimized more? |
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01:39 | <bbeattie> | mythtv: are you the athor? or a bot? |
01:40 | <bigguy> | not the author |
01:40 | <bbeattie> | alright. |
01:41 | <bbeattie> | I'm still wondering if the 2/2.1 ghz mentioned was for 3 or 2 tuners being used. |
01:41 | <bbeattie> | For Chutts comment. |
01:42 | <bigguy> | heh the way you said it at first made it seem like you'd be using 3 tuners |
01:42 | <Soopizzle> | i'm pretty sure it was for 3 |
01:42 | <bbeattie> | Alright, what would be needed for 2 tuners? I ment the live-tv to mean recording 1 to view later, and recording one to watch now, but also have for later, or pause. |
01:43 | <bigguy> | Soopizzle: well to do 2 recordings and watch one of them might take more |
01:43 | <Soopizzle> | i believe he says 1800xp on the website |
01:44 | <bbeattie> | soppizzle: that's what the athor uses, but I just saw that it was 60% to do live-tv on one, but I'd think live-tv would use more CPU than just recording. |
01:44 | <bigguy> | bbeattie: Chutt is the author |
01:46 | <bbeattie> | alright. |
01:46 | <Soopizzle> | heh |
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01:59 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, that was for 2 tuners |
02:01 | <Soopizzle> | oops |
02:01 | <Soopizzle> | misquoted i did |
02:21 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: hmm, 300mhz costs about $200 more for CPU/MB. darn. |
02:21 | <bbeattie> | I was hoping to do it with a amd 1800, |
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