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| 09:03 | <optixpay> | dum diddly dum |
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| 11:16 | <Chutt> | i think i fixed the prolem people were having with tv_grab_de |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | now maybe people will stop bitching |
| 11:16 | <vektor> | hah |
| 11:16 | <vektor> | Shouldn't someone in .de fix it? |
| 11:16 | <vektor> | I hate fixing stuff I can't really test. |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | apparantly, they just like to bitch about it |
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| 11:16 | <vektor> | Dang. |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | well, the same problem was happening to someone in new zealand |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | and he actually tried to fix it |
| 11:17 | <Chutt> | so i looked into it |
| 11:17 | <vektor> | Good job. |
| 11:17 | <vektor> | :) |
| 11:17 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | minor tiny little bug |
| 11:18 | <vektor> | so |
| 11:18 | <vektor> | i'm redoing my frequency code |
| 11:18 | <vektor> | again |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | hah |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | i think i'm going to do it like this (tell me what you think): |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | i'll have a bunch of different bands which you can enable or disable |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | since it seems that ppl in europe can sort of get this 'uhf/vhf' stuff |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | so you can basically say 'i want german vhf + uhf' |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | but i dunno |
| 11:19 | <vektor> | i'm still searching to see what channels are active where, etc. |
| 11:20 | <Chutt> | might get kinda complicated |
| 11:20 | <vektor> | yeah :( |
| 11:20 | <vektor> | yeah, this sucks. |
| 11:20 | <vektor> | no, but like i'd have some defaults |
| 11:20 | <vektor> | that make sense |
| 11:20 | <vektor> | like 'uk/ireland', 'western europe', 'eastern europe + russia', 'france', ... |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | but i just want to have something a little more extensible for ppl that don't get it |
| 11:21 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | and |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | have something internal that makes sense |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | so it will say on the display |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | UHF 45 |
| 11:21 | <vektor> | for the frequency |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | should work |
| 11:24 | <vektor> | so internally i'll have a default list of bands |
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| 11:51 | <daaku> | hey... alright, i know this question could potentially be annoying... but anyone here who keeps up with new tv tuners, could suggest a tuner for ~60US$ ... i'd really appreciate it, dont wanna buy one that's got problems with linux... i've heard the connexant chipset is good... |
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| 12:14 | <datadevil> | guys, is the 0.8 release anywhere near? |
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| 12:24 | <datadevil> | back |
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| 13:31 | <datadevil> | is the cvs in a useable state? |
| 13:32 | <Edgan> | datadevil: it was yesterday |
| 13:33 | <Edgan> | datadevil: I do have issues with it hanging left and right, at least when running the frontend and backend on seperate machines |
| 13:33 | <datadevil> | i have one machine |
| 13:33 | <datadevil> | so that shouldnt be a problem |
| 13:33 | <datadevil> | is it easy to install? |
| 13:33 | <Edgan> | datadevil: relatively, yes |
| 13:34 | <datadevil> | i had the release on it, but it wasnt too useable yet for me in that form |
| 13:34 | <Edgan> | CVS is more user friendly, but not as polished |
| 13:35 | <datadevil> | polish is not too important |
| 13:35 | <datadevil> | does it have a divx player in it? |
| 13:35 | <Edgan> | At a basic usage level on a single machine CVS isn't that different than 0.8 |
| 13:35 | <Edgan> | That would be MythVideo |
| 13:35 | <Edgan> | which is an addon |
| 13:36 | <Edgan> | I mean 0.7 |
| 13:36 | <datadevil> | i had problems with the musicplayer |
| 13:36 | <Edgan> | Most of the single machine changes are in the interface configuration |
| 13:36 | <datadevil> | in 0.7 |
| 13:36 | <datadevil> | i didnt see mythvideo on the site for 0.7, is it there? |
| 13:36 | <Edgan> | I am not famaliar with how well MythVideo or MythMusic work |
| 13:37 | <Edgan> | MythVideo seems to be CVS only |
| 13:37 | <datadevil> | mythmusic had problems with some mp3s it seemed |
| 13:37 | <datadevil> | think it was title problems, but didnt really have time to find out for sure |
| 13:38 | <Edgan> | datadevil: I just use MythTV. I am amazed how well seperate machines is working already. |
| 13:39 | <Edgan> | datadevil: I also got the mplayer mpeg4/nuv patch working which is useful |
| 13:40 | <datadevil> | ah |
| 13:41 | <datadevil> | i dont have it up anyway, need to get it up and get some dutch programguide coded if it all works |
| 13:47 | <yebyen> | hm |
| 13:49 | <yebyen> | i'd like to be able to export mythtv files to ordinary formats... heh |
| 13:49 | <yebyen> | i could use mencoder |
| 13:49 | <yebyen> | does it lose quality? take forever? |
| 13:49 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 13:49 | <Edgan> | I am sure it loses some quality, but how much I don't know |
| 13:50 | <yebyen> | well, say I wanted to export it to mpeg4, but in an .avi file instead of .nuv |
| 13:50 | <yebyen> | it'd be the same codec |
| 13:50 | <mdz> | you can do that without losing any quality |
| 13:50 | <Edgan> | with patched mplayer you should be able to use mencoder on mpeg4 streams |
| 13:50 | <mdz> | -oac copy -ovc copy |
| 13:50 | <yebyen> | so, theoretically, i should be able to do it quickly without losing any quality |
| 13:50 | <Edgan> | Cool |
| 13:50 | <yebyen> | mdz: ooh |
| 13:52 | * yebyen | notes that mythtv is recording something... |
| 13:52 | <yebyen> | and i'm normalizing all of my mp3s |
| 13:52 | <yebyen> | HEH, i wonder how that will turn out |
| 13:53 | <Edgan> | yebyen: There is a new project to normalize at the player instead of in the file. It uses metadata to store the desired volume. |
| 13:53 | <yebyen> | oh, probably the star trek marathon |
| 13:53 | <yebyen> | Edgan: xmms-normalize? |
| 13:54 | <yebyen> | Edgan: i had this awesome normalizer for winamp, Octimax |
| 13:54 | <yebyen> | the only real-time normalizer i've ever thought was half-decent |
| 13:54 | <Edgan> | yebyen: It is called ReplayGain. It got integrated into Flac 1.1.0. But it is it's own project as far as I know. |
| 13:54 | <vektor> | I want to just buy a compressor. |
| 13:54 | <vektor> | And use that :) |
| 13:55 | <yebyen> | vektor: heh |
| 13:55 | <vektor> | I think i'll get the RNC. |
| 13:55 | <vektor> | It's Really Nice. |
| 13:57 | <yebyen> | Really Nice Compressor? |
| 13:57 | <vektor> | Yep. |
| 13:57 | <vektor> | It's awesome. |
| 13:57 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 13:57 | <vektor> | And cheap too. |
| 13:57 | <vektor> | Well, kinda cheap :) |
| 13:58 | <vektor> | Cheap compared that is :) |
| 14:08 | <yebyen> | yay sexy layout |
| 14:08 | <yebyen> | http://dev.nerdland.org/ |
| 14:08 | <yebyen> | xhtml strict :) |
| 14:24 | <datadevil> | whats mm..mythvideo assumes lirc libs are there |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | don't use mythvideo |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | it's not ready, yet. |
| 14:25 | <datadevil> | thats the bit i want to use most :-P |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | why? |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | it's relatively useless |
| 14:26 | <datadevil> | i like to watch videos on that box |
| 14:26 | <datadevil> | with a nice frontend |
| 14:26 | <datadevil> | sorry ;-) |
| 14:26 | * datadevil | steps over all the work to look at the tiny bits leftover in the corner and says ' he, thats cool' |
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| 15:01 | <Chutt> | that was fun |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | just went through and made most of mythvideo semi-readable |
| 15:03 | <moegreen> | Chutt: what do you mean? Increase font sizes and what not? |
| 15:03 | <Chutt> | no, the code |
| 15:04 | <Chutt> | there wasn't an indent style =) |
| 15:04 | <moegreen> | heh, I imagine it was thrown togeather quickly - I know the config file was broken originally |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:08 | <Edgan> | Chutt: any ideas on why CVS has a thing for locking up if you don't let it start previewing a video before you try to delete or play it? |
| 15:08 | <Chutt> | just a bug somewhere |
| 15:15 | <Chutt> | probably the same one |
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| 16:33 | <rcaskey> | hey all, I thought Id drop by and ask if anyone here has tried to record an hdtv source with myth? |
| 16:46 | <moegreen> | rcaskey: i don't think there are any drivers for the hdtv cards in linux |
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| 17:18 | * paperclip | is away: looking for my keys |
| 17:55 | <optixpay> | fyi, if you're watching TV and it interrupts you to record a program, then you stop watching the recording (while it's still recording) it gets stuck in recording mode |
| 17:55 | <optixpay> | or watchinglivetv mode, not sure, but it gives the 'all available inputs are in use' thing |
| 17:56 | <Edgan> | I have seen that |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | you mean, like i said in the commit message? |
| 18:25 | <optixpay> | you fixed it already? =P |
| 18:25 | * optixpay | hasn't gotten to his mythtv email yet |
| 18:26 | <rkulagow> | chutt, are you here? |
| 18:31 | <optixpay> | i think i'm running out of PCI bus bandwidth |
| 18:31 | <Edgan> | optixpay: you can always switch to mpeg4, and if already using mpeg4 you can reduce it's bitrate |
| 18:32 | <optixpay> | Edgan: i'm recording with MythTV while watching a 12mbit stream off my PVR-250 card |
| 18:32 | <optixpay> | (12mbit mpeg-2) |
| 18:33 | <Edgan> | 1.5mbyte a second isn't that high |
| 18:33 | <optixpay> | it's starting to stutter |
| 18:34 | <optixpay> | the mpeg-2 stream |
| 18:34 | <Edgan> | optixpay: A standard idea is to try increasing pci latency |
| 18:34 | <Edgan> | optixpay: what version of mythtv you using? |
| 18:34 | <Chutt> | poptix, no, just that i know that that's broken, and i said it in a commit message =) |
| 18:34 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, yeah |
| 18:35 | <optixpay> | Chutt: oh =P |
| 18:35 | <optixpay> | well i figured it was known |
| 18:35 | <optixpay> | but it's been a week since i noticed it, and thought i'd mention it. |
| 18:35 | <Chutt> | it'll also break if you're watching tv, then it comes up with a box and asks you if you want to let it record something |
| 18:35 | <optixpay> | not a big deal |
| 18:35 | <Chutt> | and you exit tv after saying that you want to record and watch it |
| 18:35 | <Chutt> | but before it starts recording |
| 18:36 | <optixpay> | Chutt yeah |
| 18:36 | <Chutt> | i haven't had much time recently, is all |
| 18:37 | <optixpay> | it's not really a big issue |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | chutt, going to paste something. hopefully, trillan doesn't crash... |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | In CVS, hitting ESC from the main MythTV menu. (ESC defined in setup as the exit key) |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | Hit "NO". Go back to main menu. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | Try to open mythweather. mythweather forks, but doesn't come to the "front". MythTV main menu is still on screen, apparently frozen. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | ps aux, kill -1 pidofmythweather |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | MythTV main menu active again |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | go to image, music, tv. works. exit back to main menu. choose weather. still frozen. kill pidofmythweather. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | ESC. "Yes"->back to bash. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | start mythfrontend. go to weather. works. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | ESC. "No" to exit. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | Go to weather. mythweather forks, to background. |
| 18:40 | <rkulagow> | (using CVS, I mean) |
| 18:40 | <optixpay> | rkulagow: i experienced something like that |
| 18:40 | <optixpay> | it was having a very hard time resolving the msnbc website it grabs the data from |
| 18:42 | <rkulagow> | optixpay: it doesn't appear to be a resolving issue. i've tried to strace it, and mythweather appears to be running, just not painting to the screen for some reason. the only difference is whether I abort out of the exit routine before trying to open the module. |
| 18:42 | <rkulagow> | "not painting" is maybe the wrong words. not coming to the front is what I mean. |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. Hitting ESC when mythweather is in the background makes it exit, returning control to the mythfrontend. |
| 18:46 | <rkulagow> | so the kill -1 pidofmythweather isn't necessary. |
| 19:06 | <rkulagow> | chutt, any ideas why mythweather is the only module affected by abandoning the exit routine and returning to mythfrontend? |
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| 21:05 | <mdz> | Chutt: do you feel strongly about the descending date/time sort in the playback selection dialog? |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | in a lot of cases it makes more sense for it to be configurable |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | er, ascending |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | so I was thinking about making it configurable |
| 21:06 | <mdz> | for example, I was just out of town for a while, and recorded some episodes of a series, which of course I want to watch in order |
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| 21:08 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: which font do you use/see in qtconfig? |
| 21:08 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: my myth fonts are bad, yours don't (from your screenshots), that might help me some |
| 21:12 | <PeteCool> | or, anybody else who has good looking fonts :) |
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| 21:38 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: You need to setup anti-aliasing on your system |
| 22:07 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: I know but if I choose a bad font/size combo it'll be bad anyway |
| 22:07 | <PeteCool> | I'm trying to get rid of the "font" part of the problem |
| 22:08 | <PeteCool> | AA is enabled in qtconfig, QT_XFT is set to 1, but it still doesn't look right |
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| 22:14 | <OrangeSun> | hey guys! |
| 22:14 | <OrangeSun> | quick q.. I'm trying to find out info about how to hook up my mythfrontend (client system) to a remote mythbackend.. |
| 22:14 | <OrangeSun> | but I can't seem to get it to go.. any advice? |
| 22:14 | <mirk_dt> | Well, recording the superbowl took about 25GB. I need a bigger drive. ;-) |
| 22:15 | <SoopaKoop> | sweeet |
| 22:15 | <SoopaKoop> | how does it look? |
| 22:16 | <OrangeSun> | hahahaha. nice |
| 22:16 | <OrangeSun> | now time to prune out the football and keep the commercials : ) |
| 22:16 | <OrangeSun> | anybody here tried separating the client and server at all? |
| 22:16 | <OrangeSun> | or remember whereabouts the mailing list might have discussed it? |
| 22:16 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: Well, I use the 'Arial' font, with a few different sizes. I got my fonts from http://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/ (I think) |
| 22:17 | <moegreen> | OrangeSun: You can search the mailing list http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/Misc_C2/MythTV_F10/ |
| 22:17 | <OrangeSun> | moegreen: i've been searching, but no luck.. |
| 22:18 | <OrangeSun> | and a search for "mythfrontend" isn't exactly narrowing it down, you know? |
| 22:18 | <bigguy> | OrangeSun: you using cvs? |
| 22:19 | <OrangeSun> | big: yessir |
| 22:19 | * bigguy | lags |
| 22:20 | <OrangeSun> | bigguy: any ideas? |
| 22:22 | <bigguy> | I haven't setup myth |
| 22:23 | <bigguy> | you can edit the source to change the default ip I was reading |
| 22:33 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: I had to run mkfontdir to have the fonts appear in the list |
| 22:33 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: looks as great as on your comp now :) |
| 22:34 | <moegreen> | Excellent |
| 22:37 | <PeteCool> | now I'm getting a "Connection timed out" error when trying to watch livetv... but I can go to the epg and the list of recordings. Weird |
| 22:38 | <OrangeSun> | PeteCool: should be addressed int he faq.. |
| 22:39 | <OrangeSun> | have you correctly configured your backend_settings? |
| 22:39 | <moegreen> | Is mythbackend running? |
| 22:41 | <PeteCool> | hmm... I didn't reinstall/remake or anything, but my config files were overwritten somehow... wtf? |
| 23:33 | <PeteCool> | whoa, I just bought a gf2mx with tv-out, my 480x480 recordings look wonderful so far, as good as having the tv straight into the tv (but then my tv sucks) |
| 23:34 | <PeteCool> | my monitor has 18.1" viewable and the tv has ~19.5", lol |
| 23:36 | <PeteCool> | thanks for your great work guys :) |
| 23:51 | <PeteCool> | with a glxgears rating of 400fps should the mythmusic visualisation be working fine? |