| 00:14 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i hope you don't end up using broadcast packets for the machines to find each other; last time i suggested something like that, mdz said, "lets not re-invent NetBIOS, badly" or something similar. :) |
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| 01:25 | <rkulagow> | chutt, are you here? |
| 01:44 | <moegreen> | rkulagow: my zip code for mythweather was reset to 44031 (or something like that) |
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| 01:45 | <rkulagow> | moegreen: damn. that's the test zipcode that i was using to make sure that everything was working right. (it's the zipcode in cleveland) do you want the default back to Bahamas? |
| 01:47 | <moegreen> | well, it's fine, the problem is that the new code for per host settings didn't inherit my original zip code (I think) |
| 01:48 | <rkulagow> | wait; the new zip code should only take effect if it was null before, otherwise it should read what you already have. |
| 01:48 | <rkulagow> | oh, i see you type faster than i do. |
| 01:48 | <rkulagow> | yes, i think that's it. |
| 01:49 | <moegreen> | the main problem is changing it in the setting dialog is pretty hard because there doesn't seem to be a way to delete what's already in there --- or is there? |
| 01:49 | <moegreen> | (with a remote control at least) |
| 01:49 | <rkulagow> | really? you can't change it? i tabbed down to it and then typed in a few different zipcodes in setup to make sure it works. |
| 01:50 | <rkulagow> | right - i think maybe when andre gets his text entry widget uploaded you should be able to use a remote control. |
| 01:50 | <rkulagow> | hrmm. irxevent should be sending the keypresses to CurrentWindow though, right? |
| 01:51 | <moegreen> | right, I can add to it, but I have no button mapped to the backspace key because its never been necessary |
| 01:52 | <moegreen> | I guess I'm just wondering why it didn't use my value from the NULL hostname, or at least copy that value to my per host setting? |
| 01:52 | <rkulagow> | not sure. once you set it though and it associates with your hostname, it inherits it from then on, yes? |
| 01:53 | <moegreen> | yeah, I did an UPDATE with MySQL and now MythWeather is using that value |
| 01:56 | <rkulagow> | i just did a select * from settings and i see that there's lots of repeats of data, where in some cases hostname == NULL, and in others hostname == localhost. |
| 01:57 | <moegreen> | I just wonder if removing 'setValue("44106");' from the globalsetting.cpp would be a good idea (as this way, you can easily type in a zip code with the remote, and MythWeather will still complain if no zip code is set) |
| 01:57 | <rkulagow> | i'm perfectly fine with a blank default. |
| 01:58 | <rkulagow> | (besides, it's not my code anyway - do what you like!) |
| 01:58 | <moegreen> | nice work on the new config screen, btw |
| 02:00 | <rkulagow> | thanks. i'd like to get something going for mythmusic as well. |
| 02:00 | <rkulagow> | do you know if you want a dedicated mythweather setup screen instead of having it living in the TV module? |
| 02:02 | <moegreen> | it probably makes sense to have it's own settings screen (in the module). I've got just about every City and matching Area ID in a text file - I plan on making it so the user will be able to select their City from the GUI ... perhaps that will be a good start |
| 02:03 | <moegreen> | the file is about 200K zipped up (which is about the same size as the main startup graphic) |
| 02:03 | <rkulagow> | foreign countries as well? |
| 02:03 | <moegreen> | I still need to get 'M', 'S', and I think one more letter |
| 02:03 | <moegreen> | yeah |
| 02:04 | <rkulagow> | cool. mandrake does something similar during setup when you select your timezone. makes it easier to find "chicago" then to remember that i'm CST6CDT (or whatever) |
| 02:04 | <moegreen> | I went to msnbc.com and searched for cities using just 1 letter ... it returns on most every letter - except the ones with the most record I suppose. Then I parse the data out of the HTML |
| 02:05 | <moegreen> | I'll probably go Country->(pick first letter)->Pick City, but I'm not sure yet |
| 02:05 | <moegreen> | Maybe just first letter, then a list of Cities with the State/Country |
| 02:07 | <rkulagow> | you know, that just reminded me (but i'm not sure how) in mythprogfind, in the upper left quadrant, after you pick a show and it gives you the description of the episode, i don't believe that it displays channel information. am i remembering that correct? (it's the "friends" problem, where in syndication there are multiple channels showing episodes at the same time) |
| 02:08 | <moegreen> | It shows the channel in the upper right hand corner (in the black box) |
| 02:09 | <moegreen> | I didn't want it with the show times because it's pretty tight on space there |
| 02:09 | <rkulagow> | let me take another look. |
| 02:23 | <rkulagow_> | moegreen: it's definately not showing me the various channels that Friends is being shown on. big black box is an empty big black box. |
| 02:47 | <moegreen> | rkulagow: In your current theme's qtlook.txt file, are misChanIcon_bgColor and misChanIcon_fgColor both black? (or is one/both missing?) |
| 02:48 | <rkulagow> | standby |
| 02:49 | <moegreen> | brrr .. I bet they are both missing |
| 02:50 | <rkulagow> | str misChanIcon_bgColor=#000000 |
| 02:50 | <rkulagow> | there is not misChanIcon_fg |
| 02:50 | <rkulagow> | (this is liquid theme) |
| 02:51 | <moegreen> | ok, add this str misChanIcon_fgColor=#(whatever color you want, probably just #ffffff) |
| 02:53 | <rkulagow> | ok, added; let me see if i can pull up mythprogfind in VNC (otherwise PC is in another room) |
| 02:53 | <moegreen> | I just updated progfind.cpp in cvs, this update should set those colors if they aren't in the qtlook.txt -> but that color should be defined anyways (for the program guide as well) |
| 02:54 | <rkulagow> | moegreen: that worked. |
| 02:55 | <rkulagow> | weird. is qtlook generated manually or programatically? |
| 02:56 | <moegreen> | manually |
| 02:58 | <rkulagow> | blue has it, as does iulius. looks like it got missed at some point. |
| 03:00 | <rkulagow> | think it's a problem to commit the update? |
| 03:03 | <moegreen> | No, go ahread and commit it - when I first did the alternate program guide, I had to add all the colors in - and probably just didn't enter in the one color on accident |
| 03:05 | <rkulagow> | done. |
| 03:05 | <rkulagow> | let me go see how my new eject code worked. |
| 03:12 | <rkulagow> | little thing, not sure that it matters. have you thought of somehow dividing the top of list / end of list in the second column? (btw, what are you calling your columns? letter, show, time? anyway) so, for example, when i go to "f" the first show in the center of the list is whatever is the first "f" show. but the one right above it is "futurama", since that's the last "f" show, and you've got a circular list. maybe a divider, or something? or have t |
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| 03:17 | <moegreen> | that could be added pretty easy, but I would guess it only really matters with the dates and times column right? |
| 03:27 | <rkulagow_> | i suppose. like i said, just wondering. |
| 03:28 | <rkulagow_> | my ejector didn't work like i thought it would. i submitted one that just uses the cdrom IOCTL to eject, but Chutt wanted me to use the libcdaudio function. it's not liking something, and i forgot to enable debug, so recompiling... |
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| 09:46 | <rkulagow> | duh. the ejector code for mythmusic was working fine. cd_close != cd_finish :) |
| 09:46 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 09:46 | <Chutt> | that got me a couple times, too |
| 09:49 | <rkulagow> | heh. you sure are forcing me to expand my horizons. had to learn a little gdb this morning to step through what was going on. it seems that it doesn't like QStrings though; when i do a printf is only works on standard C format strings and types. cerr and cout seem to adjust to QString types easily enough, but not gdb. |
| 09:50 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 09:50 | <Chutt> | you can usually do a print string.ascii() |
| 09:50 | <Chutt> | if it's not dead at that point |
| 09:56 | <rkulagow> | chutt: this seems incredibly complicated: cdrom_fd = cd_init_device(QFile::encodeName(cddevice).data()); i couldn't get cd_init_device to accept cddevice.ascii() [complains of const char * errors]. the above snippet of code _works_, because as i stepped through the code i saw the cupholder come out and then get retracted on the next line of code because of my cd_close confusion. i've already changed my tree to cd_finish and i'm ripping now, so we'll s |
| 09:57 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 09:57 | <Chutt> | (char*)cddevice.ascii() |
| 09:57 | <Chutt> | should be fine |
| 09:57 | <rkulagow> | duh. yep, i should have cast. i'll check that next. i think my devel box is even slower than mdz's. |
| 10:02 | <mdz> | Chutt: yes, your playlist explanation is clear |
| 10:03 | <mdz> | rkulagow: try using a precompiled header |
| 10:03 | <mdz> | (singular) |
| 10:03 | <Chutt> | does it make sense? |
| 10:03 | <mdz> | yes |
| 10:03 | <Chutt> | ok, good |
| 10:03 | <Chutt> | thanks for slogging through that =) |
| 10:03 | <rkulagow> | mdz: i saw you guys were talking about it earlier; i'm running mandrake 9.1B3 on the devel box. what would i need to do to use a precompiled header? |
| 10:04 | <mdz> | I don't know what andy davidoff is saying with red, yellow, blue, green |
| 10:04 | <Chutt> | you can't, it's new g++ stuff |
| 10:04 | <Chutt> | and it's really not useful with a single precompiled header |
| 10:04 | <mdz> | rkulagow: it's very new, and it basically sucks |
| 10:05 | <Chutt> | since you basically have to have #include "all.h" |
| 10:05 | <Chutt> | or whatnot |
| 10:05 | <Chutt> | so any benefits you just gained by precompiling headers just got wiped out by having to have _all_ your header files precompiled |
| 10:05 | <Chutt> | together |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | mdz, that's how i've wanted playlists to work ever since i worked on freeamp =) |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | and never really got the chance to write em like that |
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| 10:10 | <mdz> | uh oh |
| 10:10 | <mdz> | flamewar brewing on theora-dev |
| 10:10 | <mdz> | the "where the hell is development happening?" thread has begun |
| 10:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:10 | <Chutt> | "it's not, go away" |
| 10:10 | <mdz> | there are hints from time to time that people are working on things |
| 10:10 | <mdz> | but they aren't going into CVS |
| 10:12 | <Chutt> | yeah, closed open source development rocks |
| 10:15 | <Chutt> | if that guy actually finishes up a vp3 encoder/decoder for ffmpeg, that'd probably be best |
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| 10:42 | <mdz> | especially if it's fast |
| 10:43 | <Chutt> | main reason for putting it in ffmpeg would be to reuse a lot of the existing code |
| 10:46 | <mdz> | might even get ffmpeg into Debian |
| 10:51 | <Chutt> | they've already got a CONFIG_RISKY |
| 10:51 | <Chutt> | that turns off most stuff |
| 10:53 | <mdz> | it would need to be stripped out of the source too |
| 10:54 | <mdz> | dunno if that's set up to be easy or not |
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| 11:02 | <Chutt> | could probably whip up automated stuff to do that |
| 11:08 | <mdz> | I think it's in DeMuDi |
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| 11:21 | <rkulagow> | chutt, the cast in cd_init_device works. the default is to eject the cd when it's done; is that ok? |
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| 12:00 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | anyone else seeing that position saved not letting you rewind past it thing reported by joe caputo just now? |
| 12:23 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i think i left behind a "using namespace std" in cdrip when i was debugging. i don't think it's going to hurt anything, but i'll take it out on the next commit. |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | it doesn't hurt anything at all |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | don't worry about it |
| 12:25 | <rkulagow> | ok |
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| 12:26 | <mdz> | it will add another few nanoseconds to my minute-long compile of that file |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | cdrip.cpp? |
| 12:39 | <rkulagow> | don't you wish that all bug messages were like chris pinkham's? |
| 12:39 | <rkulagow> | (ie, they have solutions) :) |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:42 | <rkulagow> | i know i'm as guilty as the rest, but i can certainly see development being better if more people had bug reports like his and that one guy you mentioned where he chased a bug down by printf'ing practically everything until he found it. (was it bruce?) |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | yeah, that was bruce |
| 13:01 | <shad_> | Any of you know anything about vmware esx server? |
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| 13:33 | <rkulagow> | chutt: if i'm not actively breaking anything in mythmusic, do you mind if i work on it a little, or do you want me to send you everything for review first? |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | i'd like to know what you're committing before you do, if that's ok |
| 13:40 | <rkulagow> | of course. i added a check that we could open the cddevice; if not, there's no point in continuing. also added a closecd call in case the tray was still open. it's a 2K diff; i can mail it to you if you want to see it first. |
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| 13:46 | <Chutt> | where's it check to open the cd? |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | or, just send off the diff, that's fine |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | bbl, though |
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| 14:55 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i'd kind of prefer it not to exit if it can't open the device |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | how about just printing out the message and returning? |
| 14:56 | <rkulagow> | ok, i suppose that could work. what do you want to return to? |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | just return where you've got an exit now |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | also |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | it rips like that? |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | since you've got the dev open for the cdrom_fd |
| 14:56 | <rkulagow> | yes; it's ripping "crooners at christmas" now. do you see a problem? |
| 14:56 | <Chutt> | and then the cdparanoia stuff will try to open it again |
| 14:57 | <rkulagow> | well, if it's read only, then couldn't multiple devices open at the same time? |
| 14:57 | <rkulagow> | there's no exclusive, is there? |
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| 14:57 | <Chutt> | i dunno how it works =) |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | if the kernel internals allow it and stuff |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | if it's only being used to close and then eject the cd, though |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | it'd probably be better to open it only when needed |
| 15:09 | <poptix> | it's a blocking call |
| 15:10 | <poptix> | thread will hang until the drive is available, responds, and actually opens the tray |
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| 16:00 | <rkulagow> | huh. the paranoia page sure doesn't appear to be terribly helpful with API information. |
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| 16:21 | <rkulagow> | chutt: do you want me to go through the cdrom_init_device / action / cd_finish when i want to do something? meaning, in that diff that i sent you, if the initial cdrom_init works, we close the tray if it's not already, and hold open the cdrom_fd until it's closed as one of the last things in ripthetrack. you're saying, do an init / cdrom_finish for each action and don't maintain a global cdrom_fd, correct? |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:23 | <rkulagow> | ok, so i'll undo the int cdrom_fd change i made in cdrip.h and just make it a local int in each routine. should i keep that initial check (you said to replace the exit with a return at that point.) |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | that'll work |
| 16:23 | <rkulagow> | ok |
| 16:45 | <rkulagow> | chutt, mailed you the diff. it's short, since part of this is already committed. |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, yup, looks nice |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | feel free to commit that whenever you want =) |
| 16:47 | <rkulagow> | ok, howabout..... (wait for it....) NOW! |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | that tod detre guy on the mailing list |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | i know him, kinda |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | in my year at cwru, apparently still works there |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | funky |
| 16:50 | <rkulagow> | The "which cards support btaudio" question? I wish there were a canonical list. I asked on the V4L list a few months ago. Zero responses. I guess it's a -devel list, and that was a -user question. |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/testsite/ |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | i need to fix some of the stuff, i don't like how he set all that up |
| 17:04 | <choenig> | hui, that looks nice :-) |
| 17:04 | <Viddy> | heh |
| 17:04 | <Viddy> | first vote! |
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| 17:18 | <bigguy> | oh that's nice, Chutt |
| 17:20 | <bigguy> | what backend is it using? |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | phpnuke |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | with most everything turned off |
| 17:25 | <bigguy> | ah |
| 19:44 | <Chutt> | blah |
| 19:50 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hey, question about the docs generation |
| 19:51 | <Chutt> | would it be possible to make the index page use absolute urls? |
| 19:52 | <Chutt> | well, not absolute, but /docs/<blah.html> instead of just <blah.html> |
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| 20:09 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 20:09 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:13 | <moegreen> | Chutt: it might be nice to have some small thumbnails of the screenshots (even at this point, changing the colors of those links - they seem to match the surrounding text) |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | yeah, but i'm trying to keep bandwidth consumption down =) |
| 20:14 | <moegreen> | understandable ... isn't that what sourceforge is for =) |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | true |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | i could just host the thumbnails there, too |
| 20:16 | <moegreen> | the thumbnails I have on my website range from 17K to 50K, you could even go smaller than those too |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | something to do next, i guess =) |
| 20:33 | <mdz> | OUCH |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 21:33 | <toothpick> | What is the name of the other linux pvr project...it isn't as far as this one...but had a neat name... |
| 21:36 | <Viddy> | freevo? |
| 21:36 | <toothpick> | Viddy...yes thanks. |
| 21:36 | <toothpick> | that was it. |
| 21:36 | <Viddy> | *cough*its ass*cough* |
| 21:36 | <toothpick> | I think that didn't need mysql support and I am an pretty ignorant on getting mysql working. |
| 21:37 | <Viddy> | i personally think this is a better implementation |
| 21:37 | <bigguy> | I thought freevo was just a mplayer frontend that does nothing |
| 21:41 | <Chutt> | now now, no need to mock the competition =) |
| 21:41 | <toothpick> | Chutt...the only thing it does is install easier because it has a tar you can just download and run. |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | personally, i think that's extremely silly |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | they're shipping their own libs for _everything_ |
| 21:43 | <Chutt> | own ld.so, own libc, own everything |
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| 21:47 | <toothpick> | tv_grab_na where does it store its files? |
| 21:47 | <toothpick> | like a tv guide and such. |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | config files? |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | whereever you tell it to |
| 21:48 | <toothpick> | hmmm I didn't tell it where... |
| 21:49 | <toothpick> | just tv_grab_na --configure |
| 21:49 | <toothpick> | Gave my zip and stuff |
| 21:49 | <Chutt> | then in ~/.xmltv/ |
| 21:49 | <toothpick> | then ran it tv_grab_na |
| 21:49 | <toothpick> | thanks Chutt |
| 21:49 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure where the guide info went, though |
| 21:57 | <toothpick> | I thought tvtime would show me the name of the channels |
| 21:57 | <toothpick> | I got something wrong here. |
| 22:05 | <toothpick> | ok trying to get mythtv again. |
| 22:05 | <toothpick> | Haven't tried it in a while. |
| 22:05 | <toothpick> | apt-get update && apt-get install mythtv |
| 22:05 | <toothpick> | doing that now. |
| 22:06 | <toothpick> | Depends: libmyth-0.7 but it is not going to be installed |
| 22:06 | <toothpick> | Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 2:3.0.3-1) but it is not installable |
| 22:06 | <toothpick> | Depends: libqt3-mt-mysql but it is not installable |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | it's not installable on current debian unstable |
| 22:10 | <toothpick> | Man...I got kde 3.1 working too. |
| 22:10 | <toothpick> | And now I figured out where the tv listings get saved |
| 22:10 | <toothpick> | you specify a file name after runnign it. |
| 22:14 | <toothpick> | Will it run in testing? |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | it'll run in current unstable |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | the debs just won't install is all |
| 22:15 | <toothpick> | oh so just d/l as source then. |
| 22:15 | <toothpick> | gotcha |
| 22:18 | <mdz> | I need to build unstable packages |
| 22:20 | <toothpick> | get it included with knoppix ;) |
| 22:21 | <mdz> | you wouldn't be able to store much video in a ramdisk |
| 22:23 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | adding all the stories into the new website stuff is not fun |
| 22:27 | <mdz> | new website? |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/newsite/ |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | i'm still adding in the news, and the docs don't quite work right yet |
| 22:28 | <moegreen> | you mean /testsite/ right? |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | sorry, yes |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/testsite/ |
| 22:28 | <moegreen> | you've got the same story posted twice (August 1, 2002), btw |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | gotta fix up all the news entries so they look like they were inserted on the right days |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | got reinserted when i reloaded a page =) |
| 22:37 | <paperclip> | what's MobileMythWeb? |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | nothing, yet =) |
| 22:39 | <moegreen> | I think it's an idea at this point, with the aim to have a modified interface to mythweb which will work on a mobile device |
| 22:39 | <paperclip> | is it for pdas |
| 22:39 | <paperclip> | ahh |
| 22:40 | <mdz> | toothpick: I've put up unstable debs just now |
| 22:40 | <mdz> | toothpick: let me know if you test them |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | Chutt: what backend are you using for the new site? |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | it's phpnuke |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | ah, phpnuke |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | jeremy oddo did it all |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | just looked at the source |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | send me a big tarball with a database dump and stuff |
| 22:42 | <mdz> | my only experience with phpnuke is the 50 messages on bugtraq about it every month |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | heh, yeah |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | i've got pretty much everything turned off |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | should be safe |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | well, hopefully |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | if it's not, it's gone |
| 22:43 | <mdz> | probably the worst of it is cross-site scripting type stuff then, which shouldn't affect you really |
| 22:44 | <mdz> | are those votes in the poll real? |
| 22:44 | <mdz> | or tests? |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | probably real |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | i haven't used the poll |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | i didn't even write the poll =) |
| 22:46 | <mdz> | clearly not |
| 22:48 | <mdz> | bah, 'Your message to mythtv-users awaits moderator approval' |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | 'sec |
| 22:49 | <mdz> | is it possible to subscribe to mythtv-users for posting purposes, but not receive the messages? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | i'm adding you as an accepted poster |
| 22:49 | <mdz> | oh, thanks |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | the message you sent should be accepted as well |
| 22:50 | <yebyen> | ahem |
| 22:50 | <toothpick> | mdz ok |
| 22:51 | <mdz> | toothpick: same sources.list entry, except s/wood/unstable |
| 22:51 | <mdz> | er, woody |
| 22:51 | <mdz> | my brain is not operating at normal efficiency |
| 22:51 | <toothpick> | ok |
| 22:51 | <toothpick> | so change woody to unstable mdz |
| 22:51 | <yebyen> | it's a shame i can't get cygwin onto one cd :x |
| 22:51 | <mdz> | toothpick: correct |
| 22:52 | <mdz> | yebyen: what? cygwin fits on a CD |
| 22:52 | <yebyen> | mdz: my mirror of it is 1.1g... |
| 22:52 | <yebyen> | is there an iso of the more important stuff? |
| 22:52 | <yebyen> | including uhh, CVS |
| 22:52 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | yebyen: that probably includes all the packages that are not part of cygwin |
| 22:53 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | like regina rexx and a ton of other crazy stuff |
| 22:53 | <yebyen> | mdz: where can I get only cygwin? heh |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | heh, and GNOME |
| 22:53 | <yebyen> | actually i'm not entirely sure |
| 22:53 | <yebyen> | i can't find either of those :) |
| 22:54 | <yebyen> | g* = gawk, gcc, gcc-mingw, gcc2, gdb, gdbm, gettext, ghostscript, gnugo, gnupg, gperf, grep, groff, gsl, guile, gzip |
| 22:54 | <yebyen> | that's it |
| 22:54 | <toothpick> | mdz yes it is installing fine. |
| 22:54 | <toothpick> | But I am sure I won't get mysql working with it...and I have to go to bed now. |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | Thanks for updating it though I will play with mysql tomorrow. |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | DBI connect('host=localhost;database=','root',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at -e line 5 |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | Can't call method "do" on an undefined value at -e line 6, <> line 1. |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | dpkg: error processing mythtv (--configure): |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 22:55 | <toothpick> | mythtv |
| 22:56 | <mdz> | toothpick: is mysqld running? |
| 22:56 | <mdz> | it looks like not |
| 22:56 | <mdz> | if you install mysql-server first, it sets everything up for you |
| 22:57 | <toothpick> | I'll check it I have to go to bed though...I'll check tomorrow afternoon...now |
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| 22:58 | <yebyen> | mdz: there aren't any 0.8 debs yet, are there? :) |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | no cvs bins |
| 22:58 | <mdz> | yebyen: there is no 0.8 yet |
| 22:58 | <yebyen> | "Chris Pinkham's contributed the beginnings of automatic commerical skipping, which is now in CVS. Seems to work fairly well, though it's still under development." |
| 22:58 | <yebyen> | !!! |
| 22:58 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:59 | <mdz> | 0.8 is shaping up to be a very big release |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | it's been 3 months |
| 22:59 | <mdz> | I've lost track of all the new stuff |
| 23:02 | <yebyen> | so |
| 23:03 | <yebyen> | my big question on the commercial detection stuff (damned revolutionary, if it works) |
| 23:03 | <yebyen> | which is more common right now: false positives or false negatives? |
| 23:04 | <mdz> | Chutt: so I'm logging all sendreceivestringlist calls now, to get some info about the blank playbackbox problem |
| 23:04 | <moegreen> | it's been working very well for me here |
| 23:04 | <mdz> | if I'm reading this right, and I'm not sure that I am, it looks like it sends a QUERY_RECORDINGS Play, and gets back RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE instead of the result |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | the RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE was probably sent earlier |
| 23:05 | <mdz> | that would explain why it seems to happen every time when deleting from playbackbox |
| 23:05 | <mdz> | or the playbackexitmenu |
| 23:05 | <yebyen> | Chutt: difficult to turn the commercial detection on, or is it a checkbox? (that's a dumb question, isn't it.) |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | you hit Z when it's playing |
| 23:06 | <mdz> | is RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE sent asynchronously? |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | if you're in a commercial |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | and it'll skip it |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | mdz, this issue is qt's sockets are all async |
| 23:06 | <yebyen> | Chutt: oh, it doesn't just automagically watch for commercials? |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | and i'm attempting to use them sync |
| 23:06 | <mdz> | hmm |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | so |
| 23:06 | <yebyen> | well, can't win em all :) |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | that messes stuff up sometimes |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | yebyen, it will eventually |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | this stuff's just written :p |
| 23:07 | <mdz> | how is RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE supposed to work? does it poll to see if there is a message there? |
| 23:07 | <yebyen> | awesome :) |
| 23:07 | <yebyen> | well, it's revolutionary stuff :) |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | mdz, in the context |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | there's a function that listens for messages from the backend |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | i think the easiest way to fix things is going to be to add another connection between the two |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | for backend->frontend communication |
| 23:08 | <mdz> | seems sane |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | should be pretty easy to accomplish |
| 23:09 | <-- paperclip | (~joe@ip68-11-30-173.no.no.cox.net) has left #mythtv ("grits.. they aren't just for breakfast anymore") |
| 23:09 | <mdz> | does more than one thread talk to the backend over the same connection? what happens if requests are interleaved? |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | mutex locked |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | the only problem comes when the backend sends a message to the frontend, really |
| 23:14 | <mdz> | another option would be to differentiate between a response and a backend-originated message |
| 23:14 | <yebyen> | blum blum |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | there is |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | well, kinda |
| 23:15 | <yebyen> | making a cygwin iso, minus apache, xfree86, tetex, lilypond... |
| 23:15 | <mdz> | like, when the frontend reads a message from the backend, it could tell from the message if it was the response, or some other event to deal with |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | i wonder how difficult that'd be to do |
| 23:16 | <mdz> | one way would be to have a sequence number of some sort |
| 23:17 | <mdz> | when sending a request, say "this is request #1234", and attach that id to the response |
| 23:17 | <mdz> | then requests could be interleaved too |
| 23:18 | <mdz> | like if there was a request which took a long time to process |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 23:18 | <mdz> | maybe overcomplicated though |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | the current code's not setup to deal with getting a response back later |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | could just preface each backend->frontend communication with an id of some sort |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | just something like "BACKEND_MESSAGE" |
| 23:19 | <mdz> | yep |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | lemme get this website stuff done first =) |
| 23:19 | <mdz> | I can't think of anything the frontend would want to know that the backend would take a long time to answer anyway |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | well, it would be a better architecture |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | making it all async |
| 23:20 | <yebyen> | borrowing from UDP? |
| 23:20 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:21 | <mdz> | the sendreceive stuff could manage the pending requests |
| 23:21 | <Chutt> | if i stick an id in front of each backend->frontend message |
| 23:21 | <yebyen> | i do all of this fun OpenGL coding at school |
| 23:21 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 23:21 | <mdz> | like, when a message is received, see if it's for us, if not, push it back and let the next guy look at it |
| 23:21 | <Chutt> | sendreceive could check to see if it's a message |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | if it is, dump it into the event queue, then read the next stringlist |
| 23:22 | <mdz> | register clients waiting for responses like you have listeners |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | thing is, most queries need a response immediately |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | especially in the recording stuff |
| 23:25 | <mdz> | the event listeners are global, right? |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:25 | <mdz> | so when an event comes from the backend, everyone gets it? |
| 23:25 | <mdz> | (everyone listening) |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | and they determine what they want to listen to |
| 23:26 | <mdz> | maybe sendreceivestringlist could do the event processing then |
| 23:27 | <mdz> | if when reading its response, it gets something it can identify as not the response, dispatch an event instead |
| 23:28 | <Chutt> | that's what i'm doing right now, kinda |
| 23:29 | <mdz> | it looked like sendreceivestringlist would read whatever was waiting on the socket, and return it as the response |
| 23:29 | <mdz> | without looking at it |
| 23:29 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:29 | <Chutt> | i just inserted some code to check if the first string in the list was "BACKEND_MESSAGE" |
| 23:29 | <Chutt> | and dispatch it as a message if it was, then read the next stringlist |
| 23:29 | <mdz> | oh, you mean that's what you're _doing_ right now |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | I thought you were saying that was what the code did right now |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | I am not entirely clear-headed |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | would you be able to test this a bit if i check it in? |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | better loop it if you aren't already; it could even get multiple backend_messages before the response |
| 23:31 | <mdz> | hmm |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | like, 2 more minutes or so |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | if I could run the backend on my desktop it would be easy |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | hmm, I could run a frontend on my desktop I suppose |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | yeah, I think I can test it |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | I don't want to turn on the TV or test in the living room; I'm the only one awake |
| 23:33 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | I have not figured out the logistics of sleeping yet |
| 23:33 | <Chutt> | little tender? |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | I'm concerned about the drooling factor |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | that too, but the meds take care of that |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | just doing a test compile |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | and i'll run things real quick to make sure it all works still |
| 23:36 | <mdz> | heh, this means I will have to compile mythtv |
| 23:36 | <mdz> | no header changes, though, right? |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:36 | <mdz> | I'll start building now |
| 23:38 | <mdz> | are you going to commit it or send me a patch to try first? |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | i'll just commit it |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | it's in now |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | this will be a little perverse. I'll be running the frontend + mysql + NFS server on this box, and the backend on the diskless box |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:40 | <bigguy> | I wish I had the stuff here to setup a few diskless machines |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | wow, that guy ran setup *35 times* |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | (still compiling) |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 23:45 | <mdz> | word on theora-dev is that monty is fixing libogg not to do any in-memory copying, to get decent performance for video |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:47 | <mdz> | of course, that didn't come from monty |
| 23:47 | <mdz> | so who knows |
| 23:49 | <mdz> | hmm, frontend segfault |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:49 | <mdz> | ah, my fault |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | damn people using my net connection when i'm trying to use it too |
| 23:50 | <mdz> | the address in backend_settings.txt is what it sends to the frontend to connect to, right? |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:51 | <Chutt> | for tv and playback of remote stuff, of course |
| 23:52 | <mdz> | ok, works now |
| 23:52 | <mdz> | so I guess I need to delete something |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | you can always edit mainserver.cpp |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | comment out the db delete and the unlinks |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | it's what i do for testing =) |
| 23:53 | <mdz> | I was just going to add something to the table |
| 23:53 | <mdz> | with no file |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | or that works too |
| 23:53 | <mdz> | heh, Error: File Missing! |
| 23:54 | <mdz> | it highlights it like it's in progress...how does it determine that? |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | highlights what? |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | it was red? |
| 23:55 | <Chutt> | oh, if the starttime has passed and the end time hasn't come yet |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | SendReceiveStringList: send: QUERY_CHECKFILE myth://192.168.0.59:6543/var/lib/mythtv/1090_20030225110000_20030225120000.nuv |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | SendReceiveStringList: receive: RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE empty |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | SendReceiveStringList: send: QUERY_RECORDINGS Play |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | SendReceiveStringList: receive: 1 |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | offset is: 1 but size is 1 |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | Received a: 10 message from the backend |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | But I don't know what to do with it. |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | Received a: RECORDING_LIST_CHANGE message from the backend |
| 23:55 | <mdz> | But I don't know what to do with it. |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | running the same backend you just compiled? |
| 23:56 | <mdz> | heh, no |
| 23:56 | <mdz> | is that required? |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | yea |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | there was a backend change as well |
| 23:57 | <mdz> | that means another compile unfortunately |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | to add the BACKEND_MESSAGE stuff |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | sorry |
| 23:57 | <mdz> | I have the old qt libs on the other boix |
| 23:57 | <mdz> | were you ever able to reproduce this? |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | not easily |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | and not on demand |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | i really don't know why |
| 23:58 | <mdz> | I don't think I could reproduce it on demand, but it happens a lot |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | it should be pretty easy to trigger |
| 23:58 | <mdz> | do you delete from the playback dialog ever? |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | occasionally |
| 23:58 | <mdz> | weird |
| 23:58 | <mdz> | it would happen pretty much every time I did that |