| 00:00 | <Timon> | hahahaha |
| 00:00 | <Timon> | Just make sure you aren't the only one who follows through :-) |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | hahah |
| 00:00 | <yebyen> | we've talked about hating pants all year |
| 00:01 | <Timon> | haha. I hate shirts. I would most definelty take my shirt off! |
| 00:01 | <Timon> | And, I would let my beer/wife's a good cook belly hang out |
| 00:01 | <yebyen> | we mentioned the plan in front of one of the 3 girls in the class |
| 00:01 | <yebyen> | and she's like "Ooh what about us can we take our pants off?" |
| 00:02 | <Timon> | I would be like HELLS yeah. But, you must wear a thong :-) |
| 00:02 | <yebyen> | unfortunately we have one of those girls who you'd prefer to gouge your eyes out rather than see with less than normal clothing |
| 00:02 | <Timon> | hahhahahaa |
| 00:03 | <yebyen> | so we told her no, and she didn't get why |
| 00:03 | <yebyen> | "Well how about we take our shirts off instead?" |
| 00:03 | <danc_> | kids these days |
| 00:04 | <Timon> | woo hoo, boobies! |
| 00:04 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 00:04 | <yebyen> | so hell, i'm not going to stop her |
| 00:06 | <Timon> | dude, this is funny. I just told my wife I'm thinkin about going to college this fall, and she said "You just can't joing a sorierioty (sp?)" |
| 00:06 | <Timon> | Its all I could do to keep from laughing. |
| 00:06 | <yebyen> | heheh |
| 00:07 | <Timon> | I had to inform here, I'm not of the right sex to join one :-) |
| 00:07 | <yebyen> | bahahah |
| 00:07 | <danc_> | did she bar you from a frat? |
| 00:07 | <Timon> | she said 'You can visit, you just can't joing one' |
| 00:08 | <yebyen> | hahah |
| 00:08 | <Timon> | argh, and she just added 'And no looking at girls. I don't want you falling for a younger chick' (My wife is 21) |
| 00:09 | <yebyen> | hahah |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | i wish page-down actually did a page down |
| 00:10 | <yebyen> | heh |
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| 00:10 | <yebyen> | it just moves down a line if you're already at the bottom of the page |
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| 03:00 | <planetjay> | anyone here awake? |
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| 07:42 | <yebyen> | hrm |
| 07:43 | <yebyen> | looks like the commercial skip doesn't see the big long 2-minute ones |
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| 10:10 | <eli> | commercial skip really gets confused watching jackass... |
| 10:10 | <eli> | its nothing but 30 second or so bit with blank frames between them |
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| 11:57 | <rickter> | I have a channel change in my local area. It updated for tomorrow's date, but i'm still seeing the old channel layout in today's lineup. How would I force Myth to update today's data? |
| 11:57 | <divine_poptix> | i've really got to change the priority level of my mythtv folder |
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| 12:06 | <rickter> | or rather, is there any way to force mythfilldatabase to update today's data |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | if you go into the db and delete todays listings, then it'll regrab them |
| 12:15 | <mdz_> | a --force option or such to mythfilldatabase would be nice if someone wants an easy project |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:16 | <rickter> | hmmm, i'm not really confident enough in mysql to remove db entries. i guess i'll just wait for it to cycle out |
| 12:17 | <eli> | hmm |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | whoops, broke remote playback |
| 12:18 | <eli> | for some reason 'QUERY_RECORDINGS Delete' is giving kinda weird output |
| 12:18 | <eli> | thuse breaking recorded.php.. |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | make sure you've updated mythweb |
| 12:19 | <eli> | oh ok |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | ie, my commit earlier today to mythweb: Fix the backend communication for Matt's change last night. |
| 12:20 | <eli> | oh yep |
| 12:20 | <eli> | that'll do it |
| 12:21 | <rickter> | ah, just emptied the whole db, that did refreshed it. good, my girlfriend was really sick of watching cspan where her trading spaces episodes were supposed to be :D |
| 12:21 | <eli> | was it just that a record is 16 fields now? |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:21 | <eli> | damn trading spaces.... |
| 12:22 | <eli> | should rename it "trades spaces archive program..." |
| 12:22 | <rickter> | lol |
| 12:22 | <rickter> | yah, she wants to keep them all |
| 12:22 | <rickter> | for ideas |
| 12:23 | <eli> | that show is only good for the last 2 mins and only if they totaly destroyed a room, then its just fun to watch them prettend they like it |
| 12:23 | <rickter> | yah, or cry like that one lady did |
| 12:23 | <eli> | thats funny |
| 12:23 | <eli> | the british show its based off of was better |
| 12:23 | Chutt | Mar 06 12:23:57 <eli> they where a lot more vocal about how much they hated the rooms |
| 12:23 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I knew there was one more thing to change that I missed :-) |
| 12:24 | <eli> | and the dsigners where a lot worse |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | mdz, it's a recent change =) |
| 12:24 | * eli | sings up for the cvs commit mailing list.. |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | that didn't exist |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | this silly live-preview window causes all sorts of trouble |
| 12:34 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 12:39 | <Chutt> | i hope this extra qApp->lock() nonsense fixes the qsocket threading issues |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | need to decide what to do about VIA |
| 12:44 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I've got most of this playback box done already, i've got it playing back and deleting. Updated screenshots http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/ |
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| 12:45 | <Chutt> | moegreen, looks nice |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | think some sort of indicator that there's more above or below in the list would be possible? |
| 12:46 | <moegreen> | yeah, I've got a variable that is set when that is the case, I've got to make some arrows w/ photoshop |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | could i see the code? |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | curious =) |
| 12:47 | <moegreen> | Nathan also suggested an option to view by the category of the show, but I wasn't sure if that's saved or not. |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | the category's not saved |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | it could be, though |
| 12:48 | <moegreen> | Yeah, I'll send you the playbackbox.cpp and .h file. It's kinda messy at this point, and I'm having a problem - when it's playing back the screen is trying to update, so I set a variable to stop the update from occuring when it's playing back, but it doesn't seem to get unset at the right time, maybe I need to force an update after I unset it??? |
| 12:49 | <moegreen> | Most of the functions that had a ProgramListItem passed to it now have just ProgramInfo passed to it |
| 12:50 | <moegreen> | I thought the categories might be a nice addition |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | yeah, things can be modified to store the category pretty easily |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | looks like i broke seeking on a remote file |
| 12:53 | <moegreen> | ok, i sent the stuff to you cwru email |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | i'll check it out =) |
| 12:56 | <Timon> | Chutt, I recompiled (again) mythgame from a clean check out of cvs and ran it in gdb. I'm still getting the ??'s you spoke of in your email to the list. I compiled it with debugging on. |
| 12:56 | <Timon> | Any suggestions? |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | make sure it's not stripping the binary |
| 12:59 | <Timon> | I checked both Makefile's in mythgame, no stripping going on. |
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| 13:29 | <mdz_> | Timon: make sure you're running the binary and libraries that you think you are |
| 13:31 | <Chutt> | moegreen, seen http://www.ziarek.com/mythtv/images/playback-interface-II-show.png |
| 13:32 | <moegreen> | do you mean the light gray vs white? |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | and i like the additional shadowing =) |
| 13:33 | <moegreen> | i had emailed Nathan and asked him (before I saw this) and he mentioned it...I just haven't had time to code it |
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| 13:34 | <moegreen> | The shadowing can be done with the png files, i suppose I could make it more pronounce with some additional coding |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | well |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | i do like how he has it as a separate file |
| 13:34 | <moegreen> | I wasn't sure how to make photoshop make more shadowing |
| 13:34 | <Chutt> | it wouldn't be difficult to just draw a pixmap on top of all the text and stuff once that's done |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | especially with how you're doing things |
| 13:35 | <moegreen> | Do you think I should have one file as the background tranparency, one for the left side and then an overlay for the right side? |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | well, hmm |
| 13:36 | <moegreen> | It can certainly be layed more, but I think it will affect the performance some |
| 13:36 | <moegreen> | errr layered :) |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | how slow is what you've got going? |
| 13:36 | <moegreen> | it's pretty quick...my PC is kinda slow, but it responds as fast as the program guide does (I think) |
| 13:36 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 13:37 | <moegreen> | I've got the png files being optimized and that helpd |
| 13:37 | <Chutt> | that's fine, since there's speed limitations due to the live preview window anyway |
| 13:38 | <moegreen> | I think adding more layers to it won't be a problem, I just made up the graphics I have now real quick b/c I wanted to focus on the coding of the interface more than how it looks (as I am notorious for awesome graphics and all) |
| 13:38 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 13:39 | <Timon> | mdz_, I have a compile script I wrote which does: rm -rf /usr/local/lib/myth*; rm -rf /usr/local/bin/myth*; then it does a make clean; make distclean and make install for all the modules |
| 13:39 | <Chutt> | i do think he's giving a little too much vertical space to the list |
| 13:39 | <moegreen> | Yeah, it is too much esp. for the delete listing |
| 13:39 | <Chutt> | moegreen, just stuff like the fading text to the top and bottom of the left box looks fairly slick |
| 13:39 | <moegreen> | Although from my screenshots I kinda wanted to make the recording playback a little bigger |
| 13:40 | <moegreen> | That should be easy to do with different layers there |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:40 | <mdz_> | Timon: try removing /usr/include/mythtv |
| 13:40 | <moegreen> | Base Layer: the background transparency, Text Layer, Top Layer, etc. |
| 13:40 | <Timon> | mdz, will do |
| 13:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:41 | <moegreen> | that's just adding a little bit of code to the paintEvents sections |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | moegreen, and should be fairly easy to do programmatically, we can just add a list of images to paste on top in like the theme xml |
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| 13:41 | <Chutt> | so theme creators can add extra stuff like transparency to it, or not |
| 13:41 | <Chutt> | if they want to |
| 13:42 | <moegreen> | I've also changed the listing of show times to have the time in it's own column to keep it straight |
| 13:43 | <Timon> | mdz_: Updated my script, recompiling right now |
| 13:43 | <moegreen> | Nathan mentioned to have the date show the name of the day too |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | it should be configurable |
| 13:43 | <Chutt> | i'd say |
| 13:44 | <moegreen> | But overall - does the code look ok? |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:44 | <moegreen> | The graphics I have actually look pretty good for all the themes |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | i need to look into it a little more |
| 13:44 | <Chutt> | since i just glanced at it |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | was trying to fix what went into my last commit |
| 14:00 | <Timon> | mdz_: Same thing. Same exact bt full that I posted to the list last night. I'm trying one more thing (Found some references to strip in MC/configure and re-running) |
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| 14:05 | <Chutt> | why are you compiling the stuff in MC? |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | only mythgame should matter |
| 14:06 | <Timon> | in case mythgame was linked against any of the libs from MC. |
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| 14:07 | <Timon> | Thats my only thought as to why all the debug info wasn't showing up. I just did a tail on /usr/local/bin/mythgame and I see the symbol table in there. |
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| 14:26 | <Chutt> | moegreen, is that the best way to scroll through multiple pages of program? |
| 14:26 | <moegreen> | you mean the switching to the top at each pagebreak? |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | having pagebreaks at all, really |
| 14:27 | <moegreen> | I thought it was better, at least that way you can see what's coming |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | you can't see what's coming if you're at the bottom of the list |
| 14:27 | <moegreen> | I could make the text scroll like on the left hand side |
| 14:27 | <moegreen> | that's true |
| 14:29 | <moegreen> | it's certainly the easiest way to do it :) It's certainly something that can change, I just wanted to make it usable to start with |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:29 | <moegreen> | I've got it to redraw the stuff after it returns from watching a show now |
| 14:30 | <moegreen> | Any preference as to which way it should scroll (like it is, like a normal list box, or with the scrolling text) |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 14:30 | <moegreen> | is it responsive on your machine |
| 14:30 | <moegreen> | ? |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | you know how the current stuff always makes sure that there's at least one entry below and above the current one? |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | that kinda makes sense |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | it's a little slow to startup |
| 14:30 | <Chutt> | but after that, it's fine |
| 14:31 | <moegreen> | I think that's the initial loading and optimizing of the png file into memory, I'm not sure how to make it any faster |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | noticed there were a couple extra qpixmap->qimage conversions |
| 14:31 | <Chutt> | in the draw functions |
| 14:32 | <moegreen> | yeah, I wasn't sure what the bgimage variable did - so I left it alone |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | actually, it seems faster if i comment out the optimization calls |
| 14:35 | <moegreen> | hmm...well I guess that's possible...I figured it would help with the transparentcy of the background |
| 14:36 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:36 | <Chutt> | i think it starts/stops the player a little too often =) |
| 14:37 | <moegreen> | yeah, i've got that fixed - I think |
| 14:37 | <moegreen> | is it just doing it in a loop? |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | in a loop? no |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | whenever something overdrew the window |
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| 14:38 | <Chutt> | i was switching to kmail and noticed the killing player/starting player debug output |
| 14:39 | <moegreen> | hmm...I had some timer start calls in the paint event at one point, but though I got rid of those |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | i'd like to see the thing be more configurable |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | like, all the positions in the theme file |
| 14:43 | <moegreen> | yeah, that was on my list of things to do. I figured the theme could setup a box to put the show list times in and the program could figure out the best spacing, etc |
| 14:43 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | and you could even select where and how large to draw the preview vid |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | and what text to display below it, etc |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | but very nice so far =) |
| 14:45 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i'm still working on the setup for mythmusic. the easy way out is to setup a lineedit for all the things that we talked about like the visualizations, the tree sorting, etc. is that going to be ok? i know we want to not use the keyboard as much as possible, but we already need to for things like the directory path. |
| 14:45 | <Chutt> | i'd rather not use a line edit for the vis stuff |
| 14:45 | <Chutt> | everything else is ok, though |
| 14:45 | <rkulagow> | ok. is there a way to have two columns for the checkboxes vs. spreading over multiple pages? |
| 14:45 | <moegreen> | yeah, it's a prototype and since there should be plenty of time to work out everything for the next next release =) |
| 14:46 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, why two columns of checkboxes? |
| 14:47 | <r1ckt3r> | is anyone else not able to delete items under recorded on mythweb? It's responds ok, but doesn't remove the entry. Using CVS from a couple hours ago |
| 14:47 | <rkulagow> | there are something like 9 or 10 visualization choices, and they don't fit all on the same page. |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | well, you could use a horizontalconfiguratinogroup |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | with two vertical configuration groups in it |
| 14:49 | <rkulagow> | ok, i'll take a look and see if i can figure it out. |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | i think the resolution settings use a horizontal config group |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | if you want to see how that's done |
| 14:51 | <rkulagow> | well, it's going to be a learning experience, i'm sure. i've got to setup the horizontal, with two verticals, and then write out a string based on the checkbox values. we'll see how it goes. |
| 14:53 | <rkulagow> | my other "personal wish list" is to get the program guide data incorporated into the video file itself so that if the database gets whacked we still know what each program is. the existing myth.rebuilddatabase.pl script requires you to enter the titles manually. |
| 14:54 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:54 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i'll do that after 0.8 =) |
| 14:54 | <moegreen> | Chutt: do you think I should also have the info at the bottom of the screen be setup to use the drawText functions instead of the QT widgets? That would certainly give the theme designer a lot more freedom with the screen |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | yeah, i don't see why not |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | and it'd allow us to do the simple text effects that the menu does |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | shadow/outline, etc |
| 14:56 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: if you're not going to be saving the settings directly into the database in the usual way, you'll probably just want to override the top-level save(db) on the configuration group |
| 14:56 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: look at the xmltv config stuff for an example |
| 14:57 | <eli> | <- personal wishlist is to have backend clusters and the frontend would find one with a free video source and use it and you could access recordings from any backend from any frontend |
| 14:57 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: or make a MultiSelectSetting |
| 14:57 | <mdz_> | nothing else needed one, so I never made one |
| 14:57 | <Chutt> | eli, wow, just like current cvs works? |
| 14:57 | <eli> | oh ok then |
| 14:57 | <eli> | :) |
| 14:58 | <eli> | how to you tell it you have another backend server? |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | you setup the other backend server, then run mythbackend on it |
| 14:59 | <eli> | yeah but how does the frontend know to look for it if its primary backend video source is busy recording? |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | it doesn't need to |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | the frontend always talks to the master backend server |
| 15:00 | <eli> | oh |
| 15:00 | <Chutt> | the master backend decides where the frontend should look for free tuners |
| 15:01 | <eli> | so the master backend redirects the frontend to the secondary backend.. or does it kinda proxy it though |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | it tells it where to go, the frontend connects directly to it after that |
| 15:02 | <eli> | cool |
| 15:03 | <eli> | eventaly i want to have a frontend on top of every tv in the house (4 tvs) and have 4 backends in the basement managing everything |
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| 15:38 | <nziarek> | I don't mean to be so Newbie, but, "is this thing on" <tap><tap> |
| 15:38 | <moegreen> | hey |
| 15:42 | <nziarek> | yay :) never used IRC before |
| 15:42 | <r1ckt3r> | welcome in to the fold <G> |
| 15:44 | <nziarek> | thanks. so, do people just keep this open in case a question arises...I ask only because there isn't any talking going on |
| 15:44 | <nziarek> | I am not bothering anyone, am I? |
| 15:44 | <moegreen> | people come and go |
| 15:45 | <r1ckt3r> | with spurts of conversation |
| 15:47 | <nziarek> | ah. thanks...i can be quiet now :) |
| 15:48 | <moegreen> | heh, that being said if you've got something to say, say it - but if you get ignored - don't take it personally |
| 15:49 | <moegreen> | =) |
| 15:49 | <eli> | now who's not paying attention... |
| 15:50 | <r1ckt3r> | i got completely ignored earlier when i asked a question |
| 15:50 | <nziarek> | i'm here! just playing with the menus on mIRC... |
| 15:50 | <nziarek> | i don't have much to give in the way of helping others out. just thought it would be interesting to read what goe son "behind the scenes" of MythTV... |
| 15:51 | <r1ckt3r> | ditto, i know zilch about coding beyond a little bit of perl |
| 15:52 | <eli> | make a web page of a summary of whats going on the mailing lists |
| 15:52 | <eli> | like that kernel one |
| 15:52 | <nziarek> | Yeah - little bit of ASP here. |
| 15:52 | <nziarek> | I have fun designing the UIs though |
| 15:53 | <r1ckt3r> | yah, me and my girlfriend might try a hand at that, I really dig your mythweb2 idea |
| 15:55 | <nziarek> | thanks...it is a little slow is my only problem with it...I can't figure out my each time you click on a link the shadows need to be re-downloaded instead of just displayed. Sloppy HTML right now, though... |
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| 16:05 | Chutt | Mar 06 16:05:26 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:26 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:26 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:27 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:28 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:28 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:29 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:29 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:29 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:29 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:30 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:31 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:32 Chutt Mar 06 16:05:32 Chutt Mar 06 16:13:50 <planetjay> anyone here for a newbie question? |
| 16:14 | <eli> | ok |
| 16:14 | <eli> | but i probably don't know the answer anywya |
| 16:14 | <eli> | but i am very bored |
| 16:14 | <planetjay> | on a virgin linux install... How do you make the video work? |
| 16:14 | <planetjay> | there's no /dev/video |
| 16:14 | <eli> | redhat? |
| 16:15 | <planetjay> | mandrake this time |
| 16:15 | <planetjay> | but I caould reload redhat |
| 16:15 | <planetjay> | could |
| 16:15 | <planetjay> | and would if I have too |
| 16:16 | <planetjay> | is there a site with the answers? |
| 16:16 | <eli> | search for video4linux howto or something |
| 16:16 | <r1ckt3r> | bytesex.org is a good place to start |
| 16:16 | <planetjay> | it seems that freevo and mythtv both assume that your video already works |
| 16:16 | <r1ckt3r> | yah |
| 16:16 | <r1ckt3r> | what kind of tuner card? |
| 16:17 | <planetjay> | ATI All-In-Wonder Rage 128 (16meg) |
| 16:17 | <planetjay> | pci |
| 16:17 | <eli> | http://bytesex.org/bttv/ |
| 16:17 | <eli> | thats what you need to get setup right, the bttv driver |
| 16:18 | <bigguy> | umm |
| 16:18 | <planetjay> | I installed this: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php |
| 16:18 | <bigguy> | planetjay: are you using the Rage128 to display to your monitor? |
| 16:18 | <planetjay> | but it didn't change things |
| 16:18 | <planetjay> | yes big |
| 16:19 | <planetjay> | Should I install a second card? |
| 16:19 | <planetjay> | for output? |
| 16:19 | <bigguy> | yeah plus I'm not sure that the rage128 is supported by the gatos tv tuner drivers |
| 16:19 | <eli> | i dono never used an a-i-w |
| 16:19 | <r1ckt3r> | ditto, i use hauppauge |
| 16:20 | <planetjay> | hmmm |
| 16:20 | <eli> | yeah same here |
| 16:20 | <bigguy> | all in wonders aren't recommended for use under linux as a tv tuner |
| 16:20 | <planetjay> | I have a bunch of old Hauppauge cards |
| 16:20 | <r1ckt3r> | wintv 401? that's what i got and it works great |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | wintv |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | no numbers |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | first model |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | :) |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | isa bus |
| 16:21 | <eli> | that'd work |
| 16:21 | <bigguy> | planetjay: no numbers on the card at all? |
| 16:21 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 16:21 | <bigguy> | isa tv card |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | not like wintvxxx |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | just wintv |
| 16:21 | <planetjay> | from 1996 I think |
| 16:21 | <eli> | didn't know they ever made isa tv cards... |
| 16:22 | <Timon> | Yup, used to have one |
| 16:22 | <planetjay> | that's how old they are |
| 16:22 | <planetjay> | I should have about 5 in a box somewhere |
| 16:22 | <Timon> | When you switch the tv tuner on, it takes over vga output (The tv cards have ga pass through on them) |
| 16:22 | <planetjay> | and some Motion output cards too |
| 16:22 | <eli> | wow |
| 16:23 | <planetjay> | not sure if the motion cards are usefull |
| 16:23 | <planetjay> | all from about 1996 |
| 16:24 | <planetjay> | from a failed experiment by a local Utility company I contracted to |
| 16:24 | <planetjay> | One of the employees got all the wintv and motion cards |
| 16:24 | <planetjay> | and traded a bunch to me |
| 16:25 | <planetjay> | Picture them playing a training video on the motion card and watching it on the WinTV card |
| 16:26 | <planetjay> | that was before I asked why they did that |
| 16:26 | <planetjay> | so anyway |
| 16:26 | <poptix> | wtf |
| 16:26 | <poptix> | TNT is playing the same segment over and over |
| 16:27 | <eli> | real-tv? |
| 16:27 | <eli> | oh wait thats tnn |
| 16:28 | <planetjay> | I don't really NEED a tuner. I can just take audio and video straight from satellite |
| 16:28 | <planetjay> | is there a site with WinTV linux drivers? |
| 16:28 | <eli> | http://bytesex.org/bttv/ |
| 16:28 | <planetjay> | those are WinTV too |
| 16:29 | <planetjay> | ok |
| 16:29 | <eli> | or see /usr/src/linux |
| 16:30 | <planetjay> | I'm gonna look for a v4linux howto first |
| 16:33 | <poptix> | planetjay: the wintv cards work fine, and the driver comes with the kernel |
| 16:34 | <poptix> | planetjay: if you're running any modern linux distro (such as RedHat) it'll detect the card and load the proper module (bttv) |
| 16:34 | <planetjay> | Thank you all! I'm gonna lurk for a while and go look for a WinTV card. BBL |
| 16:34 | <planetjay> | oh ok |
| 16:34 | <planetjay> | running Mandrake 9.0 but probably going back to REDHAT 8.0 |
| 16:35 | <poptix> | mandrake should be fine as well, although you might have a few issues compiling mythtv -- they're all documented in the FAQ/HOW-TO |
| 16:35 | <planetjay> | actually compiling Myth worked |
| 16:35 | <planetjay> | I just need working video first it seems |
| 16:39 | <poptix> | i'd use xawtv to verify that the hardware is working properly. |
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| 16:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:42 | * poptix | looks at Chutt |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | long call with work |
| 16:42 | <mdz_> | Chutt: you are ok with not having per-recording profiles for 0.8, right? |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:42 | <mdz_> | in the ui |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 16:42 | <mdz_> | ok, because there is no way I will have it done tomorrow |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | was planning on disabling that 'create new profile' bit |
| 16:42 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 16:42 | <Timon> | when is .8 scheduled for release? |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | week or so |
| 16:44 | <Timon> | coo |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | i got bored |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | whipped up something to scream channels via mythweb |
| 16:48 | <mdz_> | scream? |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | er, stream |
| 16:48 | <eli> | in mythweb ? |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | yes, it says CHANNEL 9 IS SHOWING THE NEWS! |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | =p |
| 16:48 | <poptix> | really loud, of course. |
| 16:49 | <eli> | haha |
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| 16:50 | <poptix> | no, i used vcr to write to a file, and whipped up a little cgi to feed the video out |
| 16:50 | <poptix> | mostly useless, but like I said, i was bored. |
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| 16:52 | <eli> | vcr writes what to a file? |
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| 17:51 | <poptix> | eli: whatever you want it to |
| 17:53 | <poptix> | Chutt: there's some kind of bug in the ringbuffer code |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | hmm? |
| 17:53 | <poptix> | it's confused about how far behind I am, because it's letting me fast forward into the past |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | how far into the past? |
| 17:53 | <poptix> | well, all the way into the past |
| 17:53 | <Chutt> | like, all the way around? |
| 17:53 | <poptix> | ie, ahead of where 'now' is being written |
| 17:53 | <poptix> | yeah. |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | that's pretty impossible |
| 17:54 | <poptix> | well |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | since it wouldn't be seeking to the correct places in the file to do that |
| 17:54 | <poptix> | i'm looking at the first 15 minutes of the x files |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:54 | <poptix> | when it's 16:57 here, and i should be watching the end |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 17:54 | <poptix> | shit, now it locked up |
| 17:54 | <Chutt> | current cvs? |
| 17:55 | <poptix> | as of lastnight or so |
| 17:55 | <poptix> | maybe the night before |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | well, i'll look at it |
| 17:55 | <poptix> | it wasn't playing smoothly, real choppy and stuttering |
| 17:55 | <poptix> | i had paused it for ~20 minutes while i went down to get a drink |
| 17:56 | <bigguy> | Chutt: I can definitely |
| 17:56 | <bigguy> | tell a difference |
| 17:56 | <bigguy> | with flac that is |
| 17:56 | <bigguy> | even mp3's at 320 seem to lack something |
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| 18:41 | <yebyen> | commercial skip owns me |
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| 18:42 | <yebyen> | only thing it doesn't get along with are these damned middle-of-the-night two minute commercials |
| 18:43 | <TheAsp> | hmm... is not recording repeats broken right now? |
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| 18:43 | <yebyen> | huh? |
| 18:43 | <yebyen> | dunno |
| 18:43 | <yebyen> | it hasn't been working for me |
| 18:43 | <yebyen> | in ages |
| 18:44 | <TheAsp> | i think it worked last week, but can't remember |
| 18:44 | <TheAsp> | my schedule usually has repeats conflicted out |
| 18:44 | <yebyen> | i get the same episode of voyager twice a night |
| 18:44 | <yebyen> | i've got two FOX's |
| 18:44 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 18:44 | <TheAsp> | i got curb your enthusiasm twice last night |
| 18:44 | <TheAsp> | same channel, same description |
| 18:45 | <yebyen> | odd |
| 18:45 | <yebyen> | well, i'll ask Chutt when he's in |
| 18:45 | <TheAsp> | i think he reads scrollback :) |
| 18:45 | <yebyen> | oh =] |
| 18:48 | <mdz> | TheAsp: I changed some things in that area last night. what are you seeing specifically? |
| 18:49 | <TheAsp> | this was last nights build |
| 18:49 | <TheAsp> | it just recorded a show twice is all :) |
| 18:50 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 18:50 | <yebyen> | mdz: i've had the same thing for a while... |
| 18:50 | <TheAsp> | ill make another build tonight and see if i can find a repeat of something in my db |
| 18:50 | <yebyen> | mdz: only it's on two different shows |
| 18:50 | <yebyen> | err two different channels |
| 18:50 | <yebyen> | pretty sure it's the same description exactly |
| 18:51 | <TheAsp> | mine was same channel, few hours apart |
| 18:53 | <mdz> | yebyen: was yours the same day too? |
| 18:53 | <yebyen> | mdz: one was about midnight, the other was 2am |
| 18:53 | <yebyen> | i think |
| 18:53 | <TheAsp> | technically, mine was on different days :) |
| 18:54 | <mdz> | because I'm pretty sure there was a long-standing problem where it doesn't find duplicates the same day |
| 18:54 | <TheAsp> | i think |
| 18:54 | <mdz> | that is, the same scheduler calc |
| 18:54 | <yebyen> | mdz: that may be the bug |
| 18:54 | <mdz> | I think the solution may be to kick the scheduler to re-scan after a recording is finished |
| 18:55 | <yebyen> | mdz: woot |
| 18:55 | <TheAsp> | didn't it used to do that? back when it used to print out "not recording blah . . ." |
| 18:55 | <mdz> | TheAsp: that was a debugging statement I accidentally commited a long time ago |
| 18:55 | <mdz> | when I was trying to figure out why it didn't prune out some duplicates |
| 18:55 | <yebyen> | yeah, 12am to 1am and 2am to 3am |
| 18:55 | <TheAsp> | *nod* |
| 18:55 | <TheAsp> | i just remember it working those days :) |
| 18:56 | <mdz> | it should be much easier to see what is going on now, because you can see when duplicates are being suppressed |
| 18:56 | <Chutt> | sweet |
| 18:56 | <Chutt> | so the remote backend stuff mostly works for bruce, too |
| 18:56 | <TheAsp> | in the conflicts screen? |
| 18:56 | <yebyen> | mdz: that would be good, because as it stands, I miss macgyver at 2am because it records voyager twice |
| 18:56 | <mdz> | TheAsp: yep |
| 18:56 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 18:57 | <TheAsp> | mdz: grey'd out? i have conflicts at the same time curb y. e. is on tonight |
| 18:57 | <yebyen> | is there any way to generate the statistics table for old recordings? |
| 18:57 | <yebyen> | for commercial skipping |
| 18:57 | <mdz> | TheAsp: yes, grayed out |
| 18:57 | <mdz> | it will look the same as a conflict |
| 18:57 | <TheAsp> | *nod* |
| 18:57 | <mdz> | but if you press space/enter on it, it will explain why it is not recorded |
| 18:58 | <TheAsp> | oh, ok |
| 18:58 | <TheAsp> | ahh, works |
| 18:58 | <yebyen> | does it have any logic on which one it would rather record? |
| 18:58 | <mdz> | Chutt: I think I'm going to just add a signalChange() call to doneRecording() after it inserts the row. sound good? |
| 18:58 | <mdz> | yebyen: yes |
| 18:58 | <yebyen> | ie, if recording voyager at 12 instead of 2 will allow it to record macgyver at 2, and there's nothing else on at 12... |
| 18:58 | <yebyen> | cool |
| 18:59 | <yebyen> | but there's no commercial table generator :) |
| 18:59 | <Chutt> | mdz, signalChange()? |
| 18:59 | <mdz> | Chutt: the thingy to tell the scheduler to rescan by changing that settings value |
| 18:59 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 18:59 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 18:59 | <Chutt> | that works |
| 19:00 | <mdz> | Chutt: which you didn't want me to create a function for because it was only called in one place, but now it's called in more :-) |
| 19:00 | <Chutt> | yea yea |
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| 19:00 | <yebyen> | Chutt: is it a mythtv or qt problem that pagedown doesn't work exactly as you'd expect? |
| 19:00 | <mdz> | yebyen, TheAsp: just committed a change to CVS that I think will fix it |
| 19:00 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't know, i don't use pagedown |
| 19:00 | <yebyen> | if you're already at the bottom (or second last, because it doesn't let you get to the bottom) |
| 19:00 | <mdz> | if this happens to you regularly, please try it |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | it doesn't actually do a page down, just moves to the next item |
| 19:01 | <mdz> | yebyen: what version of qt? |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | if you have some weird code to make sure it doesn't get to the bottom item unless it's really the last, that may be the cause |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | mdz: qt3... lemme get a more specific version for you |
| 19:01 | <mdz> | well obviously qt3 :-) |
| 19:01 | <yebyen> | 3.1.1 |
| 19:01 | <mdz> | I don't think myth will work with 2 |
| 19:02 | <TheAsp> | i'll give it a shot |
| 19:02 | <yebyen> | mdz: oh :) |
| 19:02 | <yebyen> | mdz: i'll get the new cvs too... |
| 19:02 | <mdz> | I remember seeing that behaviour with pagedown |
| 19:02 | <yebyen> | think I can build it without a clean? |
| 19:02 | <TheAsp> | this would be easier if you bought me another box to run myth on so i can run it at night and sleep :P~~ |
| 19:02 | <yebyen> | if I just built a new version uhh yesterday |
| 19:03 | <TheAsp> | is there some episode id number or something? |
| 19:03 | <TheAsp> | or do you just match name and description? |
| 19:03 | <mdz> | yeah, unfortunately it is working as documented |
| 19:03 | <mdz> | (wrt page up and page down) |
| 19:04 | <mdz> | Page Up Make the item above the top visible item current and visible. |
| 19:04 | <mdz> | Page Down Make the item below the bottom visible item current and visible. |
| 19:04 | <yebyen> | mdz: nope, not quite.. |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 19:04 | <yebyen> | mdz: ABOVE the top visible, not below |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | i think i know what that bug of bruce's is |
| 19:04 | <yebyen> | mdz: and below the bottom, not above :) |
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| 19:05 | <mdz> | yebyen: "above the top" and "below the bottom" are correct |
| 19:05 | <mdz> | it is making that item current and visible, but what you expect is for it to be moved to the top |
| 19:05 | <TheAsp> | grr, all my recordings with a & in them disapeared |
| 19:05 | <TheAsp> | :P |
| 19:05 | <TheAsp> | (i did it, not myth) |
| 19:06 | <yebyen> | mdz: so there isn't any code in mythtv to make sure that pressing down lets you see the next item, as well as the one below it? |
| 19:06 | <yebyen> | mdz: that's qt? |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | mythtv ensures that the surrounding items in the list are visible |
| 19:07 | <yebyen> | Chutt: that's what i thought |
| 19:07 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i'm pretty sure (not based on code, but logic) that this is what is causing the pgup/pgdown oddness |
| 19:07 | <yebyen> | if you're not on the bottom item, pgdown moves you to the bottom item. |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | i've got a good answer for it all, though |
| 19:07 | <yebyen> | but you can never be on the bottom item |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | don't use pgup/pgdown |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 19:08 | <yebyen> | Chutt: how do you propose that I get to the bottom of my list :) |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | need to modify the programinfo wire format again |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | yebyen |
| 19:08 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i record at 400mb/hour |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | hold down the arrow key :p |
| 19:08 | <yebyen> | my remote sucks, lirc doesn't repeat with it very fast |
| 19:08 | <yebyen> | (or maybe my irman sucks) |
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| 19:09 | <mdz> | Chutt: what's happening with programinfo? |
| 19:09 | <yebyen> | i've got 100 shows in my recording stuff |
| 19:09 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 19:09 | <mdz> | that is too many |
| 19:09 | <mdz> | watch some stuff |
| 19:10 | <yebyen> | mdz: well, i've got more hard disk space than I have time to watch stuff :) |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | mdz, need to transmit the cardid and sourceid and inputid |
| 19:10 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i'll dick with it and see if I can figure out a solution, then send you a patch ^_~ |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | mdz, see bruce's email to the list -- programs on remote backends don't change the channel to record =) |
| 19:11 | <yebyen> | want to give me a hint where I should start looking for the code that handles that at least? |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | playbackbox.cpp |
| 19:11 | <moegreen> | Chutt: http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/ <- how does this look? |
| 19:11 | <mdz> | at 400mb/hour, I could fit a lot of stuff |
| 19:11 | <mdz> | but wouldn't really want to watch it either |
| 19:11 | <yebyen> | mdz: yeah, and it looks fine to me |
| 19:11 | <mdz> | so I can understand how this happened :-) |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | , same description |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> odd |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> well, i'll ask Chutt when he's in |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <TheAsp> i think he reads scrollback :) |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> oh =] |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <mdz> TheAsp: I changed some things in that area last night. what are you seeing specifically? |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <TheAsp> this was last nights build |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <TheAsp> it just recorded a show twice is all :) |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> yeah |
| 19:11 | <yebyen> | mdz: it's like a 20" screen |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> mdz: i've had the same thing for a while... |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <TheAsp> ill make another build tonight and see if i can find a repeat of something in my db |
| 19:11 | <mdz> | nziarek: stop that |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | <yebyen> mdz: only it's on two different sho |
| 19:11 | <nziarek> | sorry! |
| 19:11 | <yebyen> | nziarek: fired |
| 19:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:12 | <yebyen> | Chutt: want to give me a hint where I should start looking for the code that does that? |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | moegreen, nice, but you're cutting off the bottom of the shadow =) |
| 19:12 | <Chutt> | yebyen, frontend/playbackbox.cpp |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | and the shadow should maybe be a little darker? i dunno |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | but, that's coming together really well =) |
| 19:13 | <moegreen> | which part is being cut off? - you'll have to forgive me, I'm on a laptop |
| 19:13 | <moegreen> | it's not as easy to see this stuff :) |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | the bottom of the episode list shadow |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | it's like the area for it is a little too small |
| 19:14 | <moegreen> | oic |
| 19:14 | <nziarek> | sorry bout that above...i was trying to paste a link: www.ziarek.com/mythtv/interface.overhaul.total.asp |
| 19:14 | <moegreen> | that could have happened in photoshop |
| 19:14 | <nziarek> | it looks something like John's testing image |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | nziarek, bah, flash :p |
| 19:15 | <moegreen> | yeah, that happened in photoshop -oops |
| 19:16 | <nziarek> | sorry Chutt - it is just for effect :) |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 19:16 | * TheAsp | is insulted by a url with .asp in it. |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | just don't have flash installed |
| 19:16 | <yebyen> | Chutt: way to comment your code |
| 19:16 | * yebyen | runs |
| 19:17 | <Chutt> | i'm booting up a windows box |
| 19:17 | <Chutt> | yebyen, yeah, screw you, too |
| 19:17 | <yebyen> | hehe |
| 19:19 | <mdz> | I have flash installed here, but disabled because it does a good job of crashing every browser I've ever used it with |
| 19:19 | <mdz> | it just crashed my galeon trying to view that URL |
| 19:19 | <nziarek> | ok |
| 19:19 | <nziarek> | i disabled it |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:19 | <TheAsp> | mdz: i find the open source plugins work better |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | works ok in ie =) |
| 19:20 | <mdz> | Chutt: you just don't notice because IE crashes all the time and you never know the cause |
| 19:20 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:20 | <r1ckt3r> | lol, stability through obfuscation |
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| 19:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | i almost just committed moegreen's earlier wip code |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 19:23 | <moegreen> | heh, that would have been good :) |
| 19:25 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I made the shadow darker - but it's beginning to look more like a black box :) |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | maybe it's just the background |
| 19:25 | <moegreen> | hmm...I'll try it out on the blue theme |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | should be subtle, but visible =) |
| 19:26 | <moegreen> | heh, well it's blatent w/ the blue theme |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | iulius does have a rather dark background |
| 19:27 | <nziarek> | yeah - that might be because of my TV...it bleeds when the colors are too bright :) |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | moegreen, how's that look with the liquid theme? |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | just curious |
| 19:30 | <yebyen> | hmm |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | anyway, bbl again |
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| 19:36 | <TheAsp> | do many american stations use the white blinking square to indicate comercials? |
| 19:36 | <r1ckt3r> | no, not that i've seen |
| 19:37 | <moegreen> | Chutt: if you haven't left yet, there are some of the other themes: http://untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing/ |
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| 19:37 | <moegreen> | I kicked down the shadowing a bit, it's still pretty prominate in these shots though |
| 19:50 | <meth__> | damn qt3.1 takin forever to compile :/ |
| 19:54 | <meth__> | beh |
| 19:54 | <meth__> | to much crap i dont need |
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| 20:01 | <meth__> | i just need to make the so for qmysql |
| 20:01 | <meth__> | qmysql* |
| 20:01 | <meth__> | damn ebuild didnt work |
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| 20:28 | <Timon> | Does anyone else here use the SDL version of xmame .65? |
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| 20:50 | <meth__> | grrr |
| 20:50 | <meth__> | screw qt |
| 20:50 | <justin_> | s/qt/gentoo/ :-D |
| 20:51 | <meth__> | damn thing failed :/ |
| 20:51 | <meth__> | not gonna sit and try to compile it again for another 2hours |
| 20:51 | <meth__> | rather boot back to rh to record tv |
| 20:51 | <meth__> | isnt there a way i can just compile what myth needs? |
| 20:52 | <meth__> | or does it need 'all' of it |
| 20:52 | <meth__> | i had qt installed and it did it really fast |
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| 20:52 | <meth__> | but failed to install the mysql items |
| 20:53 | <meth__> | only plugins i have are designer |
| 20:53 | <TheAsp> | Chutt: could you add progfind to the menu :) |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | hit the 6 key while in the epg |
| 20:53 | <TheAsp> | i only go into the schedule now to start it |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | TheAsp: then change the EPG menu item to start the program finder instead. it's very easy to change the menus |
| 21:00 | <emessh> | blah |
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| 21:00 | <poptix> | mythtv just died again |
| 21:01 | <poptix> | select: Bad file descriptor |
| 21:01 | <poptix> | scrolling on and on, when it was done recording star trek |
| 21:01 | <poptix> | hmm |
| 21:01 | <poptix> | ah, that was because mythbackend segfaulted =p |
| 21:04 | <TheAsp> | well, i spose i could |
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| 22:56 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: yo saq! |
| 22:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hey |
| 22:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, you around? |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | for a minute or two |
| 22:57 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: only commercials i've spotted that the autoskip hasn't picked up are a few of those 2+ minute commercials you get in the middle of the night |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | hey, did you ever look at the scaling code in libavcodec? |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | might be faster than what you've got in there, i think some of it is in mmx |
| 22:57 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yebyen, I might add in 90 and 120 seconds in the post-process checking. |
| 22:58 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: i would suggest it :D |
| 22:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: no, looked at mplayer and xine to see how they did it. |
| 22:58 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll look at libavcodec's. why reinvent the wheel... :) |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | yeah, and we could just call the function in libavcodec |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | since it's all there already and stuff |
| 22:59 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yebyen, I just added 90 and 120 second test to my detection code that's used in the offline/post-process detection. |
| 23:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | doesn't take but like 0.000001 second to check those also. :) |
| 23:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, is there anything that tells tv_rec.cpp when it's stopping a recording that the recording was stopped prematurely by the user and did not terminate normally (ie, end of program)? |
| 23:01 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: yeah :) if it's already got the intervals |
| 23:01 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: is there any way to process recordings that were made before the stats table existed? |
| 23:01 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: and create the stats, stick em into the table |
| 23:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I stopped an in-progress recording tonight and my post-process commercial thread fired off (I'm only checking curRecording and !killFile). Myth deleted the program but my thread finished and inserted the stats for the now-deleted program. |
| 23:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yebyen, yeah I have a program to do that but it probably won't go into CVS. I made a program to do just that in my testing but since mythbackend will do post-processing of shows it didn't make sense to include the standalone program. It works with my current code which isn't in CVS yet though. |
| 23:03 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: oh |
| 23:03 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: so I shouldn't get frustrated and delete all of my old recordings just yet |
| 23:04 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: because it is possible ;) |
| 23:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, it's possible with just a simple program. the program I have scans the recorded table to see what programs you have. If it finds a program without a commercial break list it will build the list and put it in the database. |
| 23:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I can send you a patch if you want to give it a shot. current code I'm running flags commercials after recording if you have the AutoCommercialFlag setting on in the database. |
| 23:08 | <yebyen> | yea |
| 23:08 | <yebyen> | flags as in edits them out (with the edit dialog thingy?) |
| 23:09 | <yebyen> | i've got current cvs as of today running right now |
| 23:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | there is a bug that if you delete a program while it's recording it will still put the flags in the table. I'm looking into that now. |
| 23:09 | <yebyen> | does that cause any problems besides clutter in the database (that I will never see)? |
| 23:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | after a recording finishes, it starts up another thread (very low priority thread). the new thread scans back through the file and detects the commercials and inserts marks in the recordedmarkup table to flag the commercials. |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, i believe the only way a recording will get stopped in the middle is via TVRec::StopRecording() |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | if you want to verify that that's true, it'd be possible to add a flag or something there |
| 23:10 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: sounds like exactly what I need, i'd love the patch |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | and it should work the other way, as well -- StopRecording() should only be used to stop a recording in the middle |
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| 23:11 | * yebyen | notes that he is recording closed captions, and has never tried them |
| 23:11 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | they don't work for ntsc |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | yet |
| 23:13 | <yebyen> | Chutt: oh :) |
| 23:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, how about in RunTV if the state changes and RemoveRecording is called? Is that not used if I manualy stop a recording? |
| 23:13 | <yebyen> | Chutt: well I would have never known if you hadn't told me that... I probably won't try them for the forseeable future |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | no, that's not used |
| 23:14 | <yebyen> | "Cornell University is planning on implementing a plan where if faculty, staff or students use more than 2GB of bandwidth a month, they will be charged for the additional bandwidth usage." |
| 23:14 | <yebyen> | I applied there |
| 23:14 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I guess it would do the handlestatechange first and never get to that though. OK thanks. I'll see how I can work around it so I don't call the flag commercials stuff if the recording is stopped prematurely. |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | yeah, like i said, i'm fairly sure that you want to look at TVRec::StopRecording() |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | but i'm not positive, so you'll have to check it out in depth more =) |
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| 23:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok. thanks. let me see if I can figure it out real quick so yebyen can be a guinea pig and test for me. :) |
| 23:19 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: rock on :) |
| 23:19 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: i was going to go to sleep, but i'd much rather dick with mythtv |
| 23:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, I see mainserver.cpp calls elink->StopRecording which calls tv->StopRecording when the user deletes the program, so that's where I'm looking. thanks for the help. |
| 23:19 | <yebyen> | (no, really... i'm not being sarcastic ;) |
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| 23:22 | <nziarek> | is there a place that I can look to see all of the nessessary graphics needed to create the OSD? I would like to make one for Iulius... |
| 23:23 | <nziarek> | nevermind...I believe I found it in CVS |
| 23:24 | <yebyen> | nziarek: i use iulius, i'd love an OSD theme for it :) |
| 23:24 | <nziarek> | i'll try not to disapoint :) |
| 23:27 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: actually, I am going to sleep. I have to get up at 6... if you wind up with a patch, i'd love it if you could email it to yebyen@nerdland.org |
| 23:27 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: i'll be back tomorrow night and able to dick with it. |
| 23:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, I'll email a patch in a few. testing a little now. |
| 23:28 | <yebyen> | cool |
| 23:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | will explain the new program in the email. |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | nziarek, i'm planning on redoing the osd code shortly after the 0.8 release |
| 23:35 | <nziarek> | Chutt: will it require changes to the graphics? |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | i dunno yet |
| 23:35 | <nziarek> | ok |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | depends on what all i do |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | want to make it more flexible, different font styles for different things, etc |
| 23:35 | <nziarek> | alright...well, i'll just create some stuff in photoshop and we can move from there when the code is finished |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | yeah, start with a mockup =) |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | then i'll know what to code for |
| 23:36 | <nziarek> | always do :) Since I can't code, that about all I can do :) |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | just remember, with video |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | if it's recorded at 640x480, for instance |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | the b+w part is 640x480 |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | but the color is only 320x240 |
| 23:37 | <nziarek> | i'm sorry - can you explain that a little - if I wanted a graphic that just about filled the whole bottom screen at 640x480, would I make it 320?? |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | no |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | it's like |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | the black+white part of the image is full-resolution |
| 23:38 | <nziarek> | ok... |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | the color part of the image isn't |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | it's scaled up by 2, essentially |
| 23:39 | <nziarek> | ok, I think I understand. is there something special I need to do within photoshop to accomadate this? |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | but it does affect small details |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | ack, bbiab |
| 23:40 | <nziarek> | ok, well, mockup and then we can talk about how it may or may not work... |
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