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| 00:27 | <rkulagow> | mdz, are you here? |
| 00:27 | <mdz> | rkulagow: yeah, but I'm going to bed right now |
| 00:28 | <rkulagow> | ok, NP. wanted to talk to you about the pointer you sent me earlier when i was talking to chutt about the two columns for the mythmusic setup program i'm doing. visualizations is the last thing, and i'm stuck, and my scrollback is gone. we can talk in the morning. |
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| 00:50 | <rkulagow> | chutt: are you back? |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | going to bed soon |
| 00:52 | <rkulagow> | ok; don't let this keep you up. i'm working on those visualizations. got them into two columns. i'm trying to figure out how to work with the checkboxes without actually storing the data to the database, because that's not needed. |
| 00:52 | <rkulagow> | i thought i could assign a variable to the result of each checkbox status, then build a string, and write _that_ to the database. |
| 00:53 | <rkulagow> | but i'm stuck, and now i think i'm just breaking stuff. |
| 00:53 | <rkulagow> | mdz had mentioned something earlier, but it scrolled off the top of my scrollback, and i didn't note what he pointed me to. |
| 00:54 | <rkulagow> | anyway, everything else is done, other than that. |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | i think it was overriding the save() function, like the xmltv stuff does |
| 00:55 | <rkulagow> | ok, i'll check there then. thanks. |
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| 01:12 | <nick_hudson> | anyone around? |
| 01:15 | <Captain_Murdoch> | not for long.. |
| 01:16 | <nick_hudson> | i just installed mythtv and tried recording a show and is there anyway that i can make the file size smaller? |
| 01:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you mean all the time or just that 1 file? |
| 01:16 | <nick_hudson> | a 30 minute show was around 3.5 gigs |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | perhaps you might want to, i dunno, adjust the encoding parameters? |
| 01:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what speed cpu do you have? |
| 01:17 | <nick_hudson> | I thought about trying a lower resolution but I wanted to ask before I did that |
| 01:17 | <nick_hudson> | AMB Xp 1800 |
| 01:17 | <nick_hudson> | AMD |
| 01:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | go into setup and setup a recording profile. try changing to mpeg4 instead of rtjpeg. you can bump the resolution to 480x480 if you want as well. |
| 01:18 | <nick_hudson> | ok I have it set already to 480x480 .. but wasnt sure about mpeg4 |
| 01:18 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, I haven't found any scaling stuff in libavcodec that I think I could use. I'm thinking that if I scale the yuv data instead of the rgb data that I'll save 25% of time right off the bat. |
| 01:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | nick_hudson: I'm recording at 352x480 and take about 900Megs per hour using mpeg4. I'm on a lowly Athlon 700 though that's why the lower resolution. |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | can't use the img_resample stuff looked like it could work for me |
| 01:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | also make sure sound is being encoded as mp3 not raw. |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | err, two different sentences there, but you get the idea |
| 01:20 | <nick_hudson> | ok cool I got it changed ... thx for the help |
| 01:20 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I don't see a depth in there anywhere, maybe I'm missing something. I guess that's yuv though so I wouldn't see a depth? |
| 01:20 | <nick_hudson> | I just thought that mpeg4 would have a larger file size maybe I read that wrong somewhere |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | the default encoding parameters are set for fairly low compression like that because otherwise i'd get even more people bitching about their slow machines not being able to handle things |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, that's taken care of in the avpicture struct, no? |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | but, yeah, i believe it only works on yuv data |
| 01:22 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll play around with it. I've never messed with libavcodec any except for trying to track down that buffer bug a couple weeks ago. :) |
| 01:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | scaling the yuv is faster anyway, only 75% of the size of full rgb at 16bit. |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | yup |
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| 01:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I see their sample main() at the bottom of imgresample.c so I'll play around with that. |
| 01:24 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I need to setup a 2nd box bad... :) I can't compile anything cause I'm recoring something.. lol |
| 01:24 | <Captain_Murdoch> | time for bed anyway. |
| 01:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll take a look at it tomorrow and try to get it working. I'd like to get scaling working faster before 0.8. |
| 01:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | later all... |
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| 06:51 | <yebyen> | hrm |
| 06:52 | <yebyen> | captainmurdoch uses 352x480 on an Athlon 700? |
| 06:52 | <yebyen> | i'm on an athlon 700 and I use 320x240 |
| 06:52 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 06:53 | * yebyen | considers that making the vertical resolution 480 might save him from deinterlacing, and use no additional cpu... |
| 06:56 | <yebyen> | actually, wow, it works fine either way |
| 06:57 | <yebyen> | no wonder, I was only using 25% cpu! |
| 06:57 | <yebyen> | heh |
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| 08:44 | <mdz> | rkulagow: I think the right approach is to create a MultiSelectSetting which stores its value as a delimited string |
| 08:45 | <mdz> | rkulagow: then derive a setting from that which represents it as a group of checkboxes (or whatever) |
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| 08:58 | <Chutt> | hrpmh |
| 08:58 | <Chutt> | mdz, so i updated my debian install yesterday, and now all my fonts in konsole look like ass |
| 08:59 | <Chutt> | and i can't get it back to something useable |
| 09:33 | <mdz_> | Chutt: solution: don't use konsole |
| 09:34 | <mdz_> | xterm looks fine here |
| 09:34 | <Chutt> | mdz, solution, braindead debian maintainers should be removed from duties =) |
| 09:34 | <Chutt> | fontconfig is only setup to use /usr/share/fonts |
| 09:34 | <Chutt> | _nothing_ else |
| 09:34 | <Chutt> | so all the normal X fonts are not being seen |
| 09:35 | <Chutt> | finally got it working |
| 09:35 | <Chutt> | i only spent 4 hours trying to get my environment back |
| 09:37 | <eli> | what settings do u use for recording & live tv? |
| 09:38 | <mdz_> | complain to #debian-qt |
| 09:38 | <mdz_> | they're breaking everything these days |
| 09:38 | <Chutt> | the issue was fontconfig |
| 09:38 | <Chutt> | it's X, not qt |
| 09:39 | <Chutt> | well, maybe qt since it's told to use it |
| 09:40 | <mdz_> | heh, fontconfig seems like the simplest part of the whole thing |
| 09:40 | <mdz_> | "I have some fonts" |
| 09:40 | <Chutt> | right |
| 09:40 | <mdz_> | figures that would break |
| 09:40 | <Chutt> | the whole issue was that it wasn't configured to look in the right dirs anymore |
| 09:41 | <Chutt> | and has a big 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE' warning on the top of the config file, so i didn't think someone would be changing things |
| 09:41 | <mdz_> | hehe |
| 09:41 | <mdz_> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=183815 |
| 09:41 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 09:41 | <mdz_> | wow it really is unreadable |
| 09:41 | <Chutt> | it seriously pissed me off last night |
| 09:42 | <mdz_> | I thought that was hyperbole |
| 09:42 | <mdz_> | why would changing the font path cause that? |
| 09:42 | <Chutt> | because it's not using the font it was before |
| 09:42 | <Chutt> | his 'good.png' is with a fixed bitmap font |
| 09:42 | <Chutt> | which obviously wasn't found after the update |
| 09:43 | <Chutt> | so it was replaced with a ttf |
| 09:43 | <Chutt> | which doesn't scale down that small well =) |
| 09:44 | <Chutt> | basically, none of the fixed pcf fonts were in the path anymore |
| 09:46 | <mdz_> | isn't that the whole point of scalable fonts? |
| 09:46 | <mdz_> | that they should look good at many different sizes? |
| 09:46 | <Chutt> | not with AA turned on |
| 09:51 | <mdz_> | anti-reading |
| 09:51 | <Chutt> | freetype's AA for tiny sizes really only works on a lcd |
| 09:51 | <Chutt> | when it can use subpixel hinting |
| 09:53 | <Chutt> | otherwise, it just looks bad =) |
| 09:55 | <rkulagow> | mdz, a multiselect would be nice, but i'm afraid that i'm just not going to have the cycles in the short term to even attempt anything like that. |
| 09:57 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i've done the "grunt work" of the mythmusic setup, but the subtleties of the visualizations is beyond me. 3 month old baby + no sleep + work == no cycles. i'll send you what i have, and you can either finish it, or not. or just post it to the list and let someone more talented finish it. |
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| 09:58 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i may wait until after 0.8 to do that, if that's ok? |
| 09:59 | <rkulagow> | you're asking _me_ if it's ok to wait? <amusement> uh, sure, i give you my permission to wait until after 0.8. :) |
| 10:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:00 | <Chutt> | it's something you spent time on, didn't know if you wanted it in right away :p |
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| 10:18 | <rkulagow> | well, it does 90% of the what the old text setup did. again, the easy way out is a line edit for the visualizations and just have the user specify them. the harder way (to me, since i'm definately not a C++ programmer) is to setup a bunch of checkboxes, override the save function, then use the boolean values of the checkboxes to build a string that gets saved to the database. ATM, too much "new stuff" that i have to wrap my head around. it can wait. |
| 10:20 | <rkulagow> | chutt: in other news, nathan ziarek has sent me a .pdf version of the HOWTO. It's conveniently printable, and if he can keep up with the changes, then it's a nice option for users to use. mind if i commit it? |
| 10:20 | <rkulagow> | (i've tried to generate pdf |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | well |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | maybe not |
| 10:20 | <Chutt> | how big is it? |
| 10:20 | <rkulagow> | files on my box, but somewhere in the docbook ->pdf it gets messes up.) |
| 10:20 | <rkulagow> | hold on, let me check. |
| 10:21 | <rkulagow> | 560KB |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | i'd rather not, then |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | that's rather big |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | we can make it available from the website, however |
| 10:21 | <rkulagow> | ok, howabout a link and i get it externally hosted. |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 10:22 | <rkulagow> | ok, i'll get that setup and send you the URL. are you doing the day-to-day maintenance on the website, or transitioned to someone else? |
| 10:22 | <Chutt> | mdz, i've confirmed that the latest fontconfig removes /usr/lib/X11/fonts from the directories given in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf |
| 10:22 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 10:24 | <rkulagow> | i finally pulled the trigger on a mythbackend box. dell poweredge 600SC, p4 2.4ghz, 128MB dram, 40 GB hard drive. $302 after rebate. |
| 10:24 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 10:24 | <rkulagow> | i was running the numbers, and can't build it cheaper, so... |
| 10:25 | <rkulagow> | crucial DRAM is cheaper, and between staples/best buy/compusa, i can get a bigger drive for less than dell would charge me. now, to sneak it into the house... :) |
| 10:32 | <mdz_> | too bad about the P4 though |
| 10:32 | <mdz_> | but that's all you can buy from Dell these days |
| 10:34 | <eli> | how does a P4 compair to a XP for video encoding? |
| 10:35 | <rkulagow> | right. amd would be nice (or for mdz, an epia 10000-M itx box with lindows), but the effort of building my own out of AMD parts would be > $302. (and since it's a server, dell is shipping without OS, so no extra stupid MS license i don't need anyway) |
| 10:35 | <rkulagow> | mdz: smiley at you. |
| 10:37 | <rkulagow> | eli: if you've got enough CPU cycles, it doesn't matter what CPU you're using. if you don't have enough CPU cycles, it doesn't matter either. |
| 10:38 | <rkulagow> | both architectures will produce good video. i think it comes down to cost and philosophy. |
| 10:38 | <rkulagow> | go to tomshardware.com if you want to see charts and graphs of AMD vs. x86 for various tasks if you're thinking about buying something and you think it matters. |
| 10:40 | <eli> | what cpu do u have now? |
| 10:42 | <rkulagow> | celeron 450 and a piii/733 |
| 10:43 | <eli> | can you encode mpeg4 at the highest quality with that? |
| 10:52 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: that is a pretty good deal |
| 10:52 | <mdz_> | rkulagow: do you have a URL for the rebate info? |
| 10:53 | <Chutt> | is that one of the business only deals? |
| 11:03 | <rkulagow> | yes, but just put your name as the business. they don't care. |
| 11:04 | <rkulagow> | www.dell.com/shopdellbiz, e-value code: 64732-S20303 |
| 11:04 | <rkulagow> | eli: no, i can't encode at highest quality. i can do 480x480 MPEG4 on the Piii/733 at 2200. can't watch at the same time though. |
| 11:05 | <eli> | ah |
| 11:05 | <eli> | my wife always bitchs about the quality of the video.. |
| 11:06 | <eli> | i've got it turned up about as much as my amd 1600 can do |
| 11:08 | <rkulagow> | add 5% off coupon at checkout: 8D2755970FD4 |
| 11:08 | <rkulagow> | free shipping, but tax added (too bad i don't live in oregon/washington state) |
| 11:10 | <rkulagow> | came to $402-$100 MIR=$302. gigE nic, no sound, onboard video 4 64bit PCI slots, keyboard, mouse. perfect for development, without the temptation of playing games. (no AGP slot) |
| 11:14 | <Chutt> | amazing |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | andy davidoff made his ratings patch useful |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | kevin slater's email |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | about the capturecard entry not having a hostname |
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| 11:33 | <Chutt> | hey thor |
| 11:34 | <thor_> | hey Chutt, how's it going |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | just fine =) |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | you don't mind me applying patches to mythweb, do you? |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | they all seem to be pretty much correct |
| 11:34 | <thor_> | No, not at all ... actually I felt a little guilty about having promised to get a patch in and then disappearing for a few days (work) |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | yeah, i'm the same way =) |
| 11:35 | <thor_> | Got single pane mythmusic w/ playlists about 80% done ... will be working on it for the rest of the day |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | mind holding off on committing that until after 0.8? |
| 11:35 | <thor_> | Nice to get that functionality in before 0.8 |
| 11:36 | <Chutt> | i was planning on calling a feature freeze tonight |
| 11:36 | <thor_> | Oooops ... parrallel thinking ... fine, I'll just do a patch to dev, not a commit |
| 11:36 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | that can go in shortly after the release, then |
| 11:37 | <thor_> | cool |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | i figure on a release sometime next week, then |
| 11:38 | <thor_> | Suspect that 0.9 (0.85?) will be a minor extension and bugfix release that will probably come quite soon |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | it'll be 0.9 |
| 11:38 | <thor_> | Hmmm .... dangerously close to a 1.0? |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | next'll be 0.10 |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 11:39 | <thor_> | Hey, it's all semantics |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | 1.0 is reserved for feature completeness |
| 11:39 | <thor_> | Right before the ground up rewrite =) |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | hoping to never do that =) |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | well, any more than this 0.8 was |
| 11:39 | <thor_> | Yup |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | i think andy davidoff must be running things on an ancient machine |
| 11:40 | <thor_> | Got a second MythBox up and running this morning (takes a while) ... how's multibackend in practice ? |
| 11:41 | <Chutt> | his 'major speedup' increased the listings page from 'near' instantaneous to 'virtually' instantaneous on my box |
| 11:41 | <Chutt> | did you see bruce markey's email about all that last night? |
| 11:41 | <Chutt> | he went over things fairly well |
| 11:41 | <thor_> | I'll have a look |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | there's apparently something wacky in the conflict resolution stuff still, but that should hopefully be fairly easy to fix |
| 11:43 | <thor_> | Poor Andy, I think he just hates to see even unimportant "inefficiency", not a member of the "make it run -> then make it better --> only then make it efficient" school |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | hey, for mythmusic |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | how bad would it be to cache all the metadata entries in ram, all the time? |
| 11:44 | <thor_> | All the time? As in as long as mythmusic is in existence, or as long as mythfrontend is in existence? |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | as long as mythmusic is in existance |
| 11:45 | <thor_> | That's how I'm doing it (main() builds a list of playlists, and passes it down, writes on exit) |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | like, during the file existance check at the beginning |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | just load the entire tree into ram |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | should speed up creation of the selection tree quite a bit |
| 11:46 | <thor_> | Yup, that's how I'm doing it ... only drawback is that I have to have a class hierarchy outside of Qt that parrallels the class hierarchy for the ListViewItem widgets |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:46 | <thor_> | 'cause the lists have to exist whether they are drawn or not |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | but, that's pretty much the only way to do that |
| 11:46 | <thor_> | but it's working |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | makes it more of a data/view design, anyway |
| 11:47 | <thor_> | Yeah ... so all the delay (such as there is) is at startup ... that's we have a progress bar ! |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:53 | <bigguy> | Chutt: you looked at Andy's latest patch? |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | i'll probably apply it |
| 11:53 | <bigguy> | looked decent to me |
| 11:53 | <bigguy> | :) |
| 12:37 | <rkulagow> | chutt: can you please sync the website to CVS docs? |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | in a bit |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | got some work to do first |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | but soon |
| 12:38 | <rkulagow> | NP. thanks. |
| 12:39 | <Chutt> | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6690 |
| 12:40 | <thor_> | Oh crap, time to move to sourceforge |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | why? |
| 12:42 | <thor_> | What's the size of the pipe to CVS? |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | my dsl line |
| 12:42 | <thor_> | Hmmmmm |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | which i'm using for other stuff at the moment |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | cvs is staying here, though |
| 12:43 | <mdz_> | yes | cvs |
| 12:43 | <mdz_> | looks like about 1/4 inch maybe |
| 12:43 | <mdz_> | but the size of the pipe depends on your font size |
| 12:43 | <thor_> | Not 3/8's |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | sf's cvs stuff sucks. |
| 12:43 | <thor_> | Agreed |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | can't move files around |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | have to email someone if there's a stale locking file left over somehow |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 12:45 | <thor_> | I wrote an LJ article about 10 years ago, and got a wopping web hosting bill shortly thereafter (in the days when that kind of stuff was expensive). It drives a lot of traffic |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | i don't think it'll be any worse than /. |
| 12:46 | <thor_> | I take your point |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, docs updated |
| 12:53 | <rkulagow> | thanks. |
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| 13:10 | <rkulagow> | nathan, you here? |
| 13:13 | <nziarek> | yeah |
| 13:13 | <nziarek> | btw - that PDF should only be 330KB...I embedded the thumbnails in the one you had (ooops) |
| 13:19 | <rkulagow> | nziarek: ok, thanks. can you do a new pdf based on the updated docs as of 30mins or so ago? |
| 13:19 | <nziarek> | yup |
| 13:20 | <rkulagow> | thanks. |
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| 13:23 | <nziarek> | just sent it... |
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| 15:47 | <dweezle37> | Getting some segfaults and want to make sure i'm not missing something obvious before i recompile for debugging..doing a bit of debugging from work... I have a frontend on here at work conecting to my backend at home.. |
| 15:47 | <dweezle37> | I can connect fine.. but whenever i try to watch my recordings I get: |
| 15:48 | <dweezle37> | Could not connect to server |
| 15:48 | <dweezle37> | Could not connect to server |
| 15:48 | <dweezle37> | Segmentation fault |
| 15:48 | <dweezle37> | Any ideas? |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | the 'could not connect to server' doesn't tell you anything? |
| 15:49 | <bigguy> | well it'd be kinda hard to watch from work anyway wouldn't it? |
| 15:49 | <dweezle37> | it doesn't tell a whole lot... i'm able to connect to the database (or is 'server' something else)? |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | the backend server |
| 15:50 | <dweezle37> | I don't expect the video to be watchable.. but i shouldn't be segfaulting.. |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | feel free to fix it, then |
| 15:50 | <thor_> | Uhm ... is there any chance you actually have the port open at home (is home not behind firewall/NAT)' |
| 15:51 | <dweezle37> | what port is it trying to connect on? |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | whatever port you told it to connect on |
| 15:51 | <dweezle37> | BackendServerPort | 6543 |
| 15:51 | <dweezle37> | TCP connection i assume? |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | what's backendserverip set to? |
| 15:52 | <dweezle37> | port should be open at firewall.. |
| 15:52 | <thor_> | try a telnet |
| 15:52 | <dweezle37> | does backendserverip resolve hostnames? or does it have to be an IP? |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | it has to be an ip |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | what's it set to? |
| 15:53 | <thor_> | hehe |
| 15:53 | <dweezle37> | (a hostname)...hmm.. perhaps that's my prob... i'll give that a whirl... |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | i believe i always refer to it as an ip in the help text for that setting |
| 15:54 | <dweezle37> | yea.. i was just hoping it could resolve.. that way i wouldn't have to keep changing it (dynamic ip) |
| 15:55 | <dweezle37> | nope.. no luck.. interesting thing is that i can start the front end fine.. |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 15:56 | <dweezle37> | I see: connecting to backend server: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:6543 |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | make sure masterserverip is the same as backendserverip |
| 15:57 | <dweezle37> | is "/usr/local/share/mythtv/mysql.txt" still being used? or is it all in the DB now? |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | it uses that |
| 15:58 | <dweezle37> | k... just updated that.. trying again. |
| 15:58 | <dweezle37> | nupe.. same thing... |
| 15:59 | <thor_> | Chutt, perhaps you could configure the DB to get it's connection values from the .... DB .... oh never mind :-) |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:59 | <dweezle37> | well you could run setup, get DB ips, then push all setting over after you are done w/ setup.. |
| 16:00 | <thor_> | dweezle, can you "telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 6543"? |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | dweezle, the code you'd want to look at is in libs/libmyth/remotefile.cpp |
| 16:00 | <dweezle37> | thor_: yup. |
| 16:00 | <thor_> | so ports are open, what's the bandwidth in between |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | telnet XX.XX.XXX.XX 6543 |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | Trying XX.XX.XXX.XX... |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | Connected to XX.XX.XXX.XX. |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | Chutt: K.. i'll take a look. |
| 16:01 | <dweezle37> | bandwidth prob isn't great.. being pushed out on a cable modem (from home) |
| 16:02 | <thor_> | Should be enough to get the front screen up though ... |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | thor, it's only dying after it tries to play |
| 16:02 | <thor_> | Ahhhhhhhhh |
| 16:03 | <dweezle37> | yep.. |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | Welcome to the age old problem of streaming |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | it's not even streaming, though =) |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | not getting that far |
| 16:03 | <dweezle37> | i'll recompile w/ debug... |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't need to |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | a couple couts should be fine |
| 16:04 | <dweezle37> | good point.. i'll throw some in.. see what I get... |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | see what it's doing |
| 16:05 | <dweezle37> | also interesting i'm getting "Could not connect to server" twice. Code only looks like i should get once. |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | it's opening two sockets |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | one for control, one for data |
| 16:07 | <dweezle37> | ah.. gocha. |
| 16:08 | <dweezle37> | alright.. i'll have to take some time to stare at the code.. this is the 1st i've actually had a chance to crack the case open... (it's been on my TODO) |
| 16:09 | <mdz_> | has anyone had any scheduler feedback? |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | nope\ |
| 16:09 | <mdz_> | I guess that's good |
| 16:09 | <mdz_> | I missed a recording yesterday and don't know why |
| 16:09 | <mdz_> | it's not my fault as far as I can tell |
| 16:09 | <mdz_> | I ran the query and it came back OK |
| 16:10 | <mdz_> | it's suspicious, though, because it was a program where the title and subtitle matched, but the description was different (two-part episode) |
| 16:10 | <mdz_> | but I quite clearly test that in the query, and it gives the expected results |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | hrmm |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | it's seemed ok to me, but i don't have anything in the near future that would be an old record |
| 16:14 | <mdz_> | all of the duplicates that I see show up in viewscheduled are perfectly legit |
| 16:15 | <mdz_> | it's a little bit too much of a coincidence that it was the day after I put that code in though |
| 16:16 | <mdz_> | I should have put a printscheduled() in there so it would get logged |
| 16:16 | <mdz_> | printlist that is |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | quiet list today |
| 16:24 | <thor_> | coding |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:25 | <thor_> | badly ... playlists container with playlists with pointers to widgets that hold pointer back to playlist entries blech |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | might be overcomplicating things =) |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | if the widgets are in there, at least |
| 16:27 | <thor_> | yes, but playlists exist whether they are drawn or not, so you need to only new the ListviewItem's when and if the Listview exists |
| 16:27 | <thor_> | then you need a way to get back to the main hierarchy from user presses |
| 16:27 | <thor_> | and no connects() |
| 16:28 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:28 | <Chutt> | well, i'll see it when you post the patch =) |
| 16:28 | <thor_> | yup |
| 16:28 | <thor_> | and then hopefully someone who knows what they're doing will improve it ... back to coding |
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| 17:08 | <dweezle37> | Ok.. a some quick and dirt debug statements in libs/libmyth/remotefile.cpp show that openSocket is trying to sock->connectToHost(host, port) where host is 192.168.1.1 (Internal IP of backend).. where is this 'host' coming from? |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | it should be coming from the backendserverip |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | you do have to restart the backend for changes in that to take affect, of course |
| 17:31 | <dweezle37> | jackpot... |
| 17:32 | <dweezle37> | clear something up for me.. |
| 17:32 | <dweezle37> | when will BackendServerIP and MasterServerIP ever be different? |
| 17:33 | <Chutt> | multiple backends |
| 17:34 | <dweezle37> | ahh.. ok. |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | backendserverip is a per-host setting, it's what is sent out for other machines to connect to when they want to talk to it |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | masterserverip is what everything connects to on startup |
| 17:36 | <thor_> | Chutt, is there a reason you chose QValueList over QPtrList whenever you held collections of Metadata (other than the fact that you tend to get less pointer deletion segfaults) |
| 17:37 | <thor_> | sorry ... this in mythmusic |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | no reason whatsoever |
| 17:38 | <thor_> | I'm trying to load the music data once, but want to make searching over it as fast as possible ... would seem to me QPtrList should be faster |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | it would be |
| 17:38 | <thor_> | thanks |
| 17:38 | <dweezle37> | Chutt. Thanks for the help debuging.. i have a much better undersanding of front/back end settings and how they play. |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | i think i just did it so i wouldn't have to keep track of who owned what metadata object |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | dweezle37, np |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | but if there's only one metadata object for any given track, stored in ram, that's not an issue |
| 17:39 | <thor_> | No, I want to have an AllMusic object that knows all available tracks. Then other things can query it instead of asking the DB |
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| 17:41 | <thor_> | Sorry, we were saying the same thing |
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| 19:20 | <mdz> | Chutt: I redid things with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 and nothing broke, ok to commit? |
| 19:21 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 19:21 | <mdz> | I'm hoping this will fix my stdio ringbuffer problems, but I backed that stuff out to do this separately |
| 19:22 | <mdz> | I remembered not to commit my standing settings.pro change this time :-D |
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| 19:22 | <Chutt> | heh, thanks |
| 19:22 | <mdz> | it would be nice if that could be specified at build time |
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| 19:31 | <mdz> | Chutt: the handleDuplicate dialog should show the program info, I think...what's the preferred format for displaying that? |
| 19:32 | <mdz> | damn, that didn't fix it |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | there's not really a format for that |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | so, whatever you want |
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| 19:34 | <dweezle> | how do you know if your video card supports xv? |
| 19:34 | <mdz> | dweezle: xvinfo |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | mythtv complains when it doesn't |
| 19:35 | <dweezle> | yea.. but is there some way to know if the old video card sitting on my desk supports it? A hw database somewhere? |
| 19:36 | <Chutt> | not that i'm aware of |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | basically most of the neuros mp3 players are getting recalled for a hardware fix |
| 19:48 | <Chutt> | craziness |
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| 19:59 | <mdz> | I can't figure out why this stdio stuff doesn't work |
| 19:59 | <mdz> | unless fseeko is totally broken |
| 20:09 | <mdz> | when I skip ahead (30 sec), it seems to seek about the right amount |
| 20:09 | <mdz> | but is clearly getting desynced |
| 20:09 | <mdz> | from the frame headers |
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| 20:15 | <mdz> | ah, I'm dumb |
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| 20:49 | <Chutt> | mdz, got it working? |
| 20:57 | <mdz> | Chutt: yep |
| 20:57 | <mdz> | dunno if it'll help |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | hopefully will cut down on a read() or two |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | cleans up the code a bit too |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | I'm not really sure what a reader thread for ringbuffer would look like |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | read up to a fixed size buffer, sleep until it's emptied some, then try to fill it again? |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | throw it away on a seek |
| 21:04 | <mdz> | am I the only one who sees this behaviour when watching and recording at the same time? |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | I forget who the other guy is who's using NFS |
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| 21:09 | <justin_> | what behavior? |
| 21:09 | <justin_> | i usually watch recordings rather than use livetv |
| 21:09 | <justin_> | it works better that way |
| 21:09 | <justin_> | at least, cvs from a week ago:) |
| 21:10 | <thor_> | mdz, you trying to buffer against NFS latency problems |
| 21:42 | <mdz> | thor_: um, yeah |
| 21:54 | <mdz> | thor_: you using NFS? |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | No, at least not yet, just wondering which version/implementation of NFS you were using |
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| 22:08 | <meth> | hm |
| 22:09 | <meth> | cant get it to watch tv :/ |
| 22:09 | <meth> | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| 22:09 | <meth> | VIDIOCSAUDIO: Invalid argumen |
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| 22:22 | <meth> | odd |
| 22:31 | <mdz> | thor_: Linux, nfsv3 |
| 22:34 | <thor_> | mdz: of well, so much for the obvious (100BaseT as well I suppose) |
| 22:35 | <meth> | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument whats this error from |
| 22:35 | <mdz> | thor_: yes |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | it works quite well for the most part |
| 22:36 | <justin_> | meth: means something isnt working |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | but when I'm both recording and playing back at the same time, I get the occasional stutter |
| 22:36 | <thor_> | I haven't done the maths, but I'm surprised that's not enough on it's own ... hows your router |
| 22:36 | <meth> | lol justin_ |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | my theory is that the read() is blocking on the playback side |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | meth: what kind of capture card? |
| 22:37 | <mdz> | thor_: what do you mean? what's not enough? |
| 22:37 | <justin_> | i did the math once, posted it as a reply on the ML |
| 22:37 | <justin_> | 1 gig an hour, comes out to like a few hundred k/s |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | mdz: I'm surprised 100BaseT & nfs3 is not enough to keep up |
| 22:38 | <mdz> | thor_: it is |
| 22:38 | <justin_> | 1024*1024/(60*60) |
| 22:38 | <justin_> | 291 |
| 22:38 | <mdz> | there is plenty of bandwidth |
| 22:38 | <mdz> | but the latency will always be higher than a local disk read |
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| 22:39 | <mdz> | and since there's no read buffer, it will occasionally skip |
| 22:39 | <mdz> | that's the theory I'm working under anyway |
| 22:39 | <thor_> | no read buffer ... yet :-) |
| 22:39 | <mdz> | right |
| 22:39 | <justin_> | what are your nfs options? |
| 22:40 | <meth> | i figured that out :) |
| 22:40 | <meth> | what do i need to do to fix it |
| 22:40 | <justin_> | do you use the rsize=8192,wsize=8192 ? |
| 22:40 | <meth> | ati wonder |
| 22:40 | <meth> | not all-in wonder |
| 22:40 | <meth> | works on my redhat install perfectly fine |
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| 22:41 | <meth> | meh freenode lagged out |
| 22:41 | <meth> | i have a ati wonder-ve |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | justin_: of course not. I'm on ethernet with an MTU of 1500 |
| 22:42 | <mdz> | there's no sense in sending 8k packets when they'll need to be fragmented and reassembled |
| 22:42 | <justin_> | ah |
| 22:43 | <justin_> | meth: is the bttv driver loading correctly? |
| 22:43 | <meth> | ya |
| 22:43 | <meth> | xawtv works |
| 22:44 | <meth> | and i have mythv working in redhat |
| 22:44 | <meth> | do i did v4l2? |
| 22:44 | <meth> | did/need |
| 22:45 | <justin_> | no |
| 22:45 | <meth> | m |
| 22:45 | <meth> | k |
| 22:45 | <justin_> | did you try chaning the channel |
| 22:48 | <meth> | i cant load mythtv at all |
| 22:58 | <meth> | heh :/ |
| 23:00 | <justin_> | does tvtime work? |
| 23:00 | <meth> | i dont have tvtime |
| 23:01 | <justin_> | get it:) |
| 23:01 | <meth> | after imagemagick |
| 23:06 | <meth> | tvtime works fine |
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| 23:10 | <Chutt> | sounds like you're attempting to capture at an invalid resolution. |
| 23:10 | <meth> | default config |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | what's that have to do with anything? |
| 23:10 | <justin_> | well um |
| 23:10 | <meth> | int Width=480 |
| 23:10 | <meth> | int Height=480 |
| 23:10 | <justin_> | does default config mean you havent configured it? |
| 23:10 | <justin_> | heh |
| 23:10 | <meth> | i configured it |
| 23:10 | <meth> | but default config screen size |
| 23:10 | <meth> | for capture |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | again, what's that have to do with anything? |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | change it and see if that helps |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | if you want help, don't question the person trying to help |
| 23:11 | <justin_> | tvtime using 720x580 by default i think |
| 23:11 | <justin_> | or whatever ntsc is |
| 23:11 | <justin_> | though i have the tv wonder(not ve) and use 480x480 |
| 23:12 | <meth> | at 720x580 same error |
| 23:12 | <meth> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 23:12 | <meth> | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| 23:12 | <meth> | VIDIOCSAUDIO: Invalid argument |
| 23:12 | <meth> | ill look at my redhat config |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | really, though, if VIDIOCGMBUF fails, there's something wrong with bttv |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | that's the second call in the v4l init sequence |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | and it's not even setting anything, it's just getting information |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | 'course, you could have the capture device set wrong |
| 23:14 | <meth> | where |
| 23:16 | <justin_> | in the setup |
| 23:16 | <justin_> | lol |
| 23:16 | <meth> | its /dev/video |
| 23:16 | <justin_> | do you also have a webcam or something? |
| 23:17 | <meth> | no |
| 23:17 | <meth> | also /dev/v41/video0 |
| 23:17 | <meth> | ln -s in /dev/video0 |
| 23:17 | <meth> | and ln -s for /dev/video |
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| 23:25 | <meth> | heh o well |
| 23:26 | <meth> | now it sits at: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | audio, most likely |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | probably blocking trying to open the device for output./ |
| 23:26 | <justin_> | meth: killall esd ;killall artsd |
| 23:26 | <justin_> | ? |
| 23:26 | <meth> | ah xmms was open |
| 23:26 | <meth> | back to the same old err |
| 23:26 | <meth> | are |
| 23:26 | <meth> | er |
| 23:27 | <meth> | error |
| 23:27 | <meth> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 23:27 | <meth> | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| 23:27 | <meth> | VIDIOCSAUDIO: Invalid argument |
| 23:27 | <justin_> | i'd strace it |
| 23:27 | <justin_> | see what its trying to do exactly |
| 23:27 | <justin_> | strace -e ioctl mythbackend |
| 23:28 | <meth> | no strace |
| 23:28 | <justin_> | oh |
| 23:28 | <meth> | id have to insatll it :/ |
| 23:28 | <meth> | or use mine from redhat |
| 23:28 | <justin_> | what are you using if not redhat? |
| 23:28 | <meth> | gentoo |
| 23:29 | <justin_> | eh |
| 23:29 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCGTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:29 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCSTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:29 | <meth> | ioctl(5, EXT2_IOC_GETVERSION, 0xbffff8d0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:29 | <meth> | ioctl(5, EXT2_IOC_SETVERSION, 0xbffff8a0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:29 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCSCHAN, 0xbffff8a0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:29 | <meth> | --- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) --- |
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| 23:30 | <Chutt> | what device is it trying to open for the tuner card? |
| 23:30 | <meth> | /dev/video |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | you see that in the strace? |
| 23:30 | <justin_> | i dont think you can do strace -e "open|ioctl" |
| 23:30 | <justin_> | you'll have to strace -o strace.out mythbackend |
| 23:31 | <justin_> | then |
| 23:31 | <justin_> | egrep "open|ioctl" strace.out should work |
| 23:32 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCGTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:32 | <meth> | that stuff? |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | yeah |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | there should be a |
| 23:33 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCSTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:33 | <meth> | ioctl(5, EXT2_IOC_GETVERSION, 0xbffff8d0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | open ............................ = 5 |
| 23:33 | <meth> | ioctl(5, EXT2_IOC_SETVERSION, 0xbffff8a0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:33 | <meth> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCSCHAN, 0xbffff8a0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | what is the .........? |
| 23:33 | <meth> | thats it |
| 23:33 | <meth> | let me look |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | if you did strace -o strace.out |
| 23:33 | <justin_> | it has to be there |
| 23:33 | <meth> | open("/usr/share/mysql/charsets/Index", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 5 |
| 23:33 | <meth> | open("/dev/dsp", O_RDWR) = 5 |
| 23:34 | <justin_> | whats the one right before |
| 23:34 | <justin_> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCGTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:34 | <justin_> | those |
| 23:35 | <justin_> | should be open("/dev/video" |
| 23:35 | <meth> | /dev/video" not found |
| 23:35 | <justin_> | can you send me the strace.out? |
| 23:35 | <meth> | sure |
| 23:37 | <justin_> | it has |
| 23:37 | <justin_> | open("/dev/dsp", O_RDWR) = 5 |
| 23:37 | <justin_> | ioctl(5, VIDIOCGTUNER, 0xbffff910) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| 23:37 | <meth> | ya |
| 23:37 | <justin_> | you have /dev/dsp as the video device |
| 23:37 | <justin_> | ? |
| 23:38 | <meth> | str AudioDevice=/dev/dsp |
| 23:38 | <meth> | where does it store the video info |
| 23:38 | <justin_> | your using cvs eh? |
| 23:38 | <meth> | ebuild |
| 23:38 | <justin_> | its all in the database |
| 23:38 | <meth> | o |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | in the database when you ran setup. |
| 23:38 | <meth> | k |
| 23:38 | <justin_> | did you never run setup? |
| 23:38 | <meth> | let me run setup again |
| 23:38 | <meth> | but i told it /dev/video |
| 23:38 | <meth> | Use which video device for card 1? [/dev/video] |
| 23:38 | <meth> | Use which audio device for card 1? [/dev/dsp] |
| 23:39 | <justin_> | thats not cvs then |
| 23:39 | <justin_> | thats 0.70 |
| 23:39 | <justin_> | what exactly are you using? |
| 23:39 | <meth> | its a gentoo ebuild |
| 23:39 | <meth> | should be from a tar.gz source |
| 23:40 | <justin_> | what did you run? |
| 23:40 | <justin_> | strace what |
| 23:40 | <meth> | mythtv |
| 23:40 | <justin_> | then thats not cvs... |
| 23:40 | <meth> | no its not |
| 23:40 | <justin_> | though in the log it has |
| 23:40 | <meth> | its a ebuild |
| 23:41 | <justin_> | write(4, "Q\0\0\0\3SELECT videodevice,audiodev"..., 85) = 85 |
| 23:41 | <justin_> | hard to see wtf is going on |
| 23:41 | <justin_> | looks like the ebuild did something really wrong |
| 23:41 | <meth> | i ran setup again |
| 23:41 | <meth> | ..fillingdatabase |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | there's an ebuild linked to in the docs that supposedly works |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | the one in gentoo doesn't. |
| 23:42 | <meth> | i have the ebuild from the docs |
| 23:43 | <Chutt> | or that's what i've heard, at least |
| 23:43 | <Chutt> | i don't support anything but straight source, or the debs |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | but, it really looks like the video device is not getting set to the right thing somehow. |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | could always check in the database and see that it's setup properly |
| 23:44 | <justin_> | yeah, there is no "video" in the strace.out |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 23:45 | <meth> | cant open /dev/dsp now :/ |
| 23:45 | <justin_> | it opens /dev/dsp and then runs the ioctl on it |
| 23:45 | <justin_> | meth: something else using it? |
| 23:46 | <meth> | nope |
| 23:47 | <meth> | tvtime works |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | tvtime doesn't touch /dev/dsp |
| 23:47 | <meth> | o |
| 23:47 | <meth> | heh |
| 23:48 | <meth> | nothing is loaded to use /dev/dsp |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | so, what's the capturecard table look like in the database? |
| 23:50 | <meth> | woa |
| 23:50 | <meth> | i got it to work |
| 23:50 | <meth> | i guess when ir an xmms it still had dev/dsp locked |
| 23:53 | -!- | nick_hudson [] has quit ["Client exiting"] |
| 23:53 | <meth> | really choppy |
| 23:53 | <meth> | but it works heh |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | you'll probably need to lower the quality settings |
| 23:53 | <meth> | ya |
| 23:55 | <meth> | hm how do i exit out |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | escape |
| 23:57 | <meth> | that wont get me out of the first menu |
| 23:57 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i saw the feature freeze announcement for 0.8. i'm assuming that the multiple backend stuff is working sufficiently now? i'm going to get my boxes together and start working it out to get the docs updated |
| 23:57 | <rkulagow> | meth: ALT-F4 |
| 23:58 | <meth> | no alt f4 |
| 23:58 | <meth> | lol |
| 23:58 | <meth> | doesnt work in enlightenment for some reason |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | seems to be |
| 23:58 | <meth> | man 100% cpu |
| 23:58 | <meth> | this ran better on my dual 514's |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i'll attempt to help with the docs, too =) |
| 23:59 | <rkulagow> | thanks, appreciate it. |
| 23:59 | <justin_> | lol i found it funny that someone said redhat/mandrake were good on the ML because the docs had a lot for them |