| 00:04 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, anything in the new commit to require more than a single 30 second "commercial" in the middle of non-commercial stuff? |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | or a small chunk in the middle of what's thought to be commercial area? |
| 00:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | no, that's where it's headed though. I wanted to get the code base there for the post-processing, now more analysis can be added. it looks for 15,20,30,60,90,120,150, adn 180 second spots right now. it tags whatever it finds. I want to add in code to check things like "hey we just had a commercial 2 minutes ago" and "what's this 15 second commercial doin in the middle of 10 minutes of show" |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | since it really messed up on last night's recording of dune =) |
| 00:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | NBC seems to have a habit of not putting blank frames between their commercials so it will look for a grouping of what could be commercials (the 120, 150, and 180 length items) |
| 00:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | did it not catch stuff or catch too much? |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | too many false positives |
| 00:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I need to get my external changer setup so I can start recording off satellite. |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | and middle sections of commercial breaks markes as commercials |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | err, not marked as commercials |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | the help text for the new automatically flag commercials line is too long |
| 00:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you don't have AutoCommercialFlag on right? so you should only have blank frames marked in the recordedmarkup table. See if the new code does better if you have the recording still around. the code will not save the break info unless you turn on autocommercialflag. it will use the blank frame info to generate a temporary break list when you hit 'Z'. |
| 00:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hmm, so it doesn't fit on your screen? font & screen size related I guess. fits on my 800x600 display fine. I'll try to reword it to shorten it up a bit. |
| 00:14 | <Captain_Murdoch> | wanted to warn people with slow processors though. |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | 800x600, standard fonts |
| 00:16 | <Captain_Murdoch> | if the recording process skips frames then the detection code can't work as well because it uses frames not timecodes. I've thought about how I could modify it to use timecodes instead but haven't decided on anything. |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | i'd just assume that you're not dropping frames |
| 00:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | my display has enough room to display 4 lines of text. the whole first sentence and the first word of the second can all fit on the first line. |
| 00:17 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll shorten it up, just curious why it's different. |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | you're either not using the same font as me, or did you change the font size to be smaller? |
| 00:18 | <Captain_Murdoch> | 12/16/25 for 3 sizes in appearance setup screen. |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | that's the same, guess it's a different font |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | or different versions of freetype causing trouble as they normally do |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | anyway, i'm going to bed |
| 00:19 | <Captain_Murdoch> | maybe so. I didn't change anything but could be different distribution/install causing it. |
| 00:20 | <Captain_Murdoch> | ok, me too in a short while. test out that dune with the new skip stuff if you can so I can see if the new mods helped any. |
| 00:20 | <Captain_Murdoch> | you can leave autoflag off for now though, it's not necessary until we get other detection methods other than blank frame working. (which is shortly I hope) |
| 00:24 | <cgray> | hey, i want to get a frame from a .nuv file -- what would be the easiest way to do that? |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | a single frame? |
| 00:25 | <cgray> | well, i want a lot of single frames |
| 00:25 | <cgray> | in any order |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | what for? |
| 00:26 | <cgray> | to display -- it's for a class project |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | well, really depends on how much code you're willing to write |
| 00:27 | <_shad_> | there's some code to display a thumbnail |
| 00:27 | <_shad_> | can't he use that? |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | you could use the patch to mplayer, and use it |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | there's the preview pixmap stuff, yup |
| 00:27 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I've got the titles left justified |
| 00:27 | <moegreen> | and the arrows |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | moegreen, cool |
| 00:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | a frame of video? can you just do a screencapture? |
| 00:28 | <cgray> | yeah, i want to use that, it's just not very general |
| 00:28 | <moegreen> | same place if you want to take a look, it's playback1 and 2 |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | it's not general? |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | it scrolls like how you were talking about? |
| 00:29 | <moegreen> | yeah, the bar is now a png file as well - nzariek's request :) |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | hh |
| 00:29 | <cgray> | well it makes a png doesn't it? i don't need that, just a QImage or a bunch of chars... |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | no, it doesn't make a png. |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | moegreen, think you can make this optional? i can imagine people complaining about the speed hit of all the transparency =) |
| 00:30 | <cgray> | oh, well that might do it then |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | though, i imagine it'd be fast without most of the trans stuff |
| 00:31 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cgray, so you want the raw data or what? |
| 00:32 | <nyquiljer> | moegreen: can i see what you are working on? |
| 00:32 | <moegreen> | hmm...well...I suppose...I'll try and make a set of backgrounds w/o the transparency stuff and see how fast it is |
| 00:32 | <moegreen> | http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/testing |
| 00:32 | <cgray> | ahh, i remember the problem now :) i can't get it at a specific frame |
| 00:32 | <moegreen> | there are various screenshots |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | that's what the getpreviewpixmap stuff in nuppelvideoplayer does, returns the raw image data |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | cgray, if you want exact frames, you'll have to write some additional code. |
| 00:32 | <_shad_> | He wants to see some boobies I bet |
| 00:32 | <cgray> | Chutt: getscreengrab you mean? |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | whatever i called it, yes |
| 00:33 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 00:33 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cgray, you could easily modify the XJ.cpp display code to dump uncompressed RGB (or yuv) frames to a file if you wanted. |
| 00:33 | <cgray> | _shad_: no, it's for a project, honest :) |
| 00:33 | <_shad_> | hehe |
| 00:33 | <bigguy> | _shad_: doesn't every redblooded man |
| 00:33 | <bigguy> | _shad_: ;) |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | moegreen, the arrows are pngs too, right? |
| 00:33 | <_shad_> | Sorry, I'm all out of red, only white left |
| 00:33 | <Soopaman> | moegreen, how is chappelle's show? |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | it's looking really good =) |
| 00:34 | <moegreen> | Chutt: yeah, the arrows are pngs |
| 00:34 | <cgray> | Chutt: okay, i'll use the getscreengrab... thanks |
| 00:34 | <moegreen> | Soopaman: it's pretty funny. I can't believe some of the stuff he gets away with on a weekly basis |
| 00:34 | <_shad_> | hrm. this isn't good |
| 00:34 | <_shad_> | I have 100 mythbackend's running |
| 00:35 | <Soopaman> | damn, i want to see it |
| 00:35 | <Soopaman> | that ss about racism between hollywood's animals |
| 00:35 | <Soopaman> | heheheh, looks funny |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | anyway, i said i was going to bed =) |
| 00:38 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: the shots on the url you posted are action shots, or mockups? |
| 00:38 | <bigguy> | night chutt |
| 00:40 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: action shots |
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| 00:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | does anybody else find it annoying that when you change the volume while watching a show, then go back in and watch another show the volume is set back to it's original setting? |
| 00:48 | <nyquiljer> | why not use your tv/reciever volume? |
| 00:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | could do that, but it would seem like you'd want Myth to remember when you change the volume in it. |
| 00:49 | <nyquiljer> | yeh |
| 00:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | especially if you use mythfrontend with something other than a TV such as a projector w/o volume control or just displayin on a monitor |
| 00:50 | <nyquiljer> | yeh |
| 00:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll ask on the dev list and put in a patch if noone dislikes the idea. |
| 00:59 | <Justin_> | i think thats a feature not a bug |
| 01:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what's the feature, that it resets itself? guess it just reminds me too much of those hotel TV's that reset their volume everytime you turn them on. |
| 01:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | could make it an option I guess to either remember or reset. |
| 01:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I guess I can see where some might want to reset. |
| 01:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | oh well, mailed the list to see what others think. I can just deal with it if it doesn't make sense to others. |
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| 09:27 | <Chutt> | moegreen, looks good |
| 09:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 09:39 | <Chutt> | new commercial skip code did worse on the 2nd dune episode |
| 09:39 | <Chutt> | didn't catch hardly any of the commercials |
| 09:39 | <Chutt> | and caught a bunch of the show |
| 10:20 | <mdz_> | 60-odd downloads of the debs and the only feedback has been from _shad_ and merle reine |
| 10:21 | <mdz_> | I guess that means everything worked perfectly for the others :-D |
| 10:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:22 | <Chutt> | cool. |
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| 11:03 | <mdz_> | hmm, my xmltv stuff apparently broke in a big way last night |
| 11:04 | <Chutt> | lotta errors? |
| 11:07 | <mdz_> | yeah, a large number of channels are missing or have new (wrong) labels |
| 11:07 | <mdz_> | I'd guess that the provider id changed, but I'm pretty sure it checks that and gives a warning in that case |
| 11:14 | <Chutt> | i believe it does error out in that case |
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| 13:05 | <poptix> | anyone else notice that the latest xmltv phones home? |
| 13:07 | <moegreen> | no ... where to? |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | they check for version updates or something |
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| 13:28 | <Mr> | In GDB, is it possible to make it display the contents of QStrings in an easy way or does one always have to look at the raw memory? |
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| 13:44 | <moegreen> | Mr: are you getting a seg fault or something? |
| 13:46 | <Mr> | no, at least, not yet ;-) |
| 13:47 | <Mr> | I just wondered if it were possible (when I've hit a breakpoint) to view the Qstring contents |
| 13:47 | <Mr> | without having to mess about with copying the address into the memory window (I'm using KDbg) |
| 13:47 | <Mr> | Thanks for responding moegreen ;-) |
| 13:50 | <moegreen> | Mr: This might help: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/1997-09/thread00122-0.html |
| 13:50 | <moegreen> | Other helpful links include: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=qt+gdb+qstring+contents =) |
| 13:50 | <thor_> | Chutt, just sent you code |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | excellent |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 13:51 | <thor_> | way delayed .. proper patch to CVS later today provided you don't have big objections |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | i can't look at it right away |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | doing real work |
| 13:51 | <thor_> | no hurry, whenever |
| 13:54 | <Mr> | Thanks for that moe, appreciated |
| 13:56 | <moegreen> | Chutt: for the playbackbox stuff, should I have it use default images that the theme designers can override or require the theme have it? |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | it's probably be best to have a default setup that can be overridden by the theme |
| 13:58 | <moegreen> | should I just put the files in the /theme directory then or make a default directory off of that? |
| 14:10 | <mdz_> | Chutt: you're still running basically the same xmltv stuff that I am, right? 0.5.6 pointing to the alternate site? |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | not anymore |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | i forgot to put it on hold, and it updated when i wasn't paying attention |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | moegreen, probably a default dir off of that |
| 14:16 | <moegreen> | mdz: I'm running an older version of xmltv point to tvlistings. |
| 14:17 | <mdz_> | moegreen: working OK? |
| 14:19 | <moegreen> | I'm getting some 500 Internal server errors about 15 channels into it |
| 14:24 | <mdz_> | that's normal |
| 14:26 | <moegreen> | mdz: it's broke, I don't have any data after today :( |
| 14:28 | <mdz_> | moegreen: I started getting this: "noticed new station available (90 SNPR), re-run --configure" |
| 14:28 | <mdz_> | with corresponding "noticed station unavailable (90 OXYGEN), re-run --configure" |
| 14:28 | <moegreen> | yeah, that's in there too |
| 14:28 | <mdz_> | for a whole bunch of my channelvs |
| 14:29 | <mdz_> | ok, not just me then |
| 14:29 | <mdz_> | Chutt: how long have you been on 0.5.8? working ok? |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | yeah, it's fine |
| 14:29 | <mdz_> | I'll just upgrade then |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | i've been on it ever since the debian package upgraded |
| 14:29 | <Chutt> | you do need to be using 0.8, of course |
| 14:30 | <mdz_> | which I am |
| 14:35 | <mdz_> | ok, so I upgraded and checked zap2it |
| 14:35 | <mdz_> | and their channel lineup is now just wrong |
| 14:44 | <poptix> | i think i |
| 14:44 | <poptix> | i think i'll contact zap2it about providing listings in xml format =p |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:44 | <Chutt> | i'd pay a bit for that |
| 14:48 | <nziarek> | i've contacted them about it before and they responded, but the guy that left his number on my voicemail was out of town. Problem was, I wanted to be careful talking to them about it; i didn't want them to change the zap2it listings so XMLTV broke... |
| 14:48 | <nziarek> | if they didn't like the idea of giving it out for free |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | i kind of doubt they'd give out free xml listings, but maybe they'd be interested in a small monthy access fee for them.. |
| 14:49 | <nziarek> | if you are looking to make contact, you need to talk to "Tribune Media" they handle the data and run Zap2it |
| 14:49 | <nziarek> | that is what I was hoping for |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | since tms sells data to everyone =) |
| 14:50 | <poptix> | i need to find one of their web guys |
| 14:50 | <poptix> | slip him a few bucks to support xml as an output format =p |
| 14:50 | <nziarek> | what about a small ad for those that didn't want to pay...like a banner ad on the EPG...I personally would hate it, but for free, I might consider it. |
| 14:51 | <poptix> | i'd just disable it =p |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | i don't see how that could be enforced in an open source app |
| 14:51 | <nziarek> | well, maybe they don't know that :) |
| 14:52 | <nziarek> | just ideas I had for getting the tvlistings quicker and as acurately as possible. |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | that would be better |
| 14:53 | <Chutt> | their data they sell is more complete, too |
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| 14:57 | <nziarek> | well, i'll get back on the horn and see what they are willing to do. I still want to be careful regarding XMLTV, though. would hate to have them disaprove and radically alter Zap2it so we can no longer use it. |
| 14:58 | <emacsen> | Hi. I have a friend who uses MythTV, it says it crashes. Is it stable? |
| 14:58 | <emacsen> | I have a crazy friend who says eating meat is wrong. Is he crazy? |
| 14:59 | <Chutt> | nziarek, exactly |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | an alternative might be to ask digiguide if they'd provide data in a useable format |
| 15:07 | <nziarek> | that is right; they already have a paid subscription model |
| 15:08 | <Chutt> | but they require the use of their crappy program =) |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | though |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | http://forums.digiguide.com/topic.asp?id=10192 |
| 15:09 | <Chutt> | that posting seems to indicate that they'd not want to do that at all |
| 15:13 | <Chutt> | moegreen, want to make that option you just added work for the other guide as well? =) |
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| 15:17 | <emacsen> | can I play one show while I record another? |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | no |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | you can't |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | you can't do _anything_ while it's recording |
| 15:17 | <emacsen> | darn |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | have to sit there and wait. |
| 15:18 | <moegreen> | Chutt: Yeah, I'll do that - it speeds it up a lot |
| 15:18 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:19 | <moegreen> | I actually had all that in there before the .8 release, oops :) |
| 15:19 | <nziarek> | Chutt: yeah, DigiGuide looks like a dead end from that posting, but that was also public and kind of ornery. a private conversation might yeild better results |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | their current stuff works out to a buck a month |
| 15:20 | <Chutt> | i dunno, maybe they meant more as in $5 a month or so |
| 15:20 | <nziarek> | even that could be worth it |
| 15:21 | <nziarek> | is there a way, in open source, to have one program or part of a program not be editable? IE, so digiguide could supply a module for downloading the XML files without letting us know how to do it for free? |
| 15:22 | <nziarek> | does that make sense? |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 15:22 | * emacsen | is away: away |
| 15:22 | <Chutt> | to the first question, that is |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | well |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | they could provide a program that downloaded the data and all that |
| 15:23 | <Chutt> | it'd just have to be separate from mythtv |
| 15:23 | <poptix> | well |
| 15:23 | <nziarek> | like XMLTV is anyways |
| 15:24 | <poptix> | a precompile library that you link into |
| 15:24 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:24 | <eli> | is xmltv broke again? |
| 15:24 | <poptix> | just like the windows dll's are used in various audio/video programs |
| 15:24 | <nziarek> | you could have your choice: free/sketchy XMLTV v. paid/quality digiguide |
| 15:25 | <poptix> | i looked at their stuff |
| 15:25 | <poptix> | it's cruddy =/ |
| 15:25 | <poptix> | downloads massive amounts of junk data in a special binary format |
| 15:29 | <moegreen> | Chutt: should the original epg use the background colors or nothing? |
| 15:30 | <moegreen> | or should I colorize it all using the same colors as the alt program guide? |
| 15:30 | <Chutt> | if it's using nothing, it'll be just drawing over the background image, right? |
| 15:30 | <moegreen> | correct |
| 15:30 | <Chutt> | that's fine |
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| 15:41 | <poptix> | damnit. |
| 15:41 | <poptix> | wtf is wrong with my mythtv installation |
| 15:42 | <poptix> | hmm, i think this started when i turned on the automatic commercial detection |
| 15:42 | <poptix> | is that actively doing something now |
| 15:42 | <poptix> | ? |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | define actively |
| 15:42 | <poptix> | like, actually searching for black spots, and trying to skip over them |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | does it on record |
| 15:43 | <poptix> | mythtv is just stalling a lot on black spots |
| 15:43 | <poptix> | how about live tv? |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | not sure, really |
| 15:43 | <poptix> | =P |
| 15:43 | <poptix> | i think it must be trying to seek to the next black spot, but is hitting the buffer |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | dunno, really |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | haven't played with it all that much |
| 15:45 | <poptix> | ah hah |
| 15:45 | <poptix> | it is. |
| 15:45 | <poptix> | i paused it for 5 minutes in the middle of a commercial break |
| 15:46 | <poptix> | after unpausing, it skipped the remaining commercials |
| 15:46 | <poptix> | my 5 minute buffer is now 1.5 minutes |
| 15:47 | <nziarek> | that's kind of a cool feature, though...I wonder if a setting could be made that said: skip commercials while watching live TV when X Amount is in buffer |
| 15:47 | <moegreen> | Chutt: it's in there, let me know if I broke anything =) |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | i'll check it out later, thanks =) |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | dear zap2it |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | hopefully will be finished with this work stuff soon |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | please fix my listings |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | - tx |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | bai! |
| 15:59 | <poptix> | heh |
| 16:00 | <poptix> | i'd like to setup a proxy server actually |
| 16:00 | <poptix> | instead of everyone making a ton of queries to zap2it, i could have a single box do it, and cache the information |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | you'd then be redistributing their info =) |
| 16:00 | <thor_> | For every zip code in the US? |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | i imagine that'd be frowned upon |
| 16:01 | <thor_> | and provider? |
| 16:02 | <poptix> | thor_: only for the requested zipcodes |
| 16:02 | <poptix> | Chutt: technically i'd be doing it as a web proxy |
| 16:02 | <poptix> | =p |
| 16:02 | <poptix> | the whole redistributing information thing is crack anyway |
| 16:03 | <poptix> | my ISP uses transparent proxies, aren't they storing and redistributing content? |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | well ... within six months all requested should be pretty close to every provider BY every zip code |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | :) |
| 16:03 | <poptix> | hmm |
| 16:03 | <poptix> | actually |
| 16:03 | <thor_> | yeah, I know, P2P |
| 16:04 | <poptix> | i wonder if i could get the xmltv guy to add support for uploading the finished .xml's for a certain zip code to a central server |
| 16:04 | <poptix> | then other xmltv clients could check for existing data |
| 16:04 | <thor_> | no, do something like Rendevouz to have Myth's in a given zip self organize |
| 16:05 | <poptix> | i don't see this as a mythtv thing though |
| 16:05 | <poptix> | you'd have better participation doing it in xmltv, since mythtv is only one program using the information |
| 16:06 | <thor_> | yes, but if you did it at the Myth level, then you could also P2P content ... |
| 16:06 | <thor_> | ....mmmmm... content |
| 16:12 | <poptix> | i don't want to have yet another p2p network =p |
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| 16:29 | <mdz_> | I cache the grabber output so that I can easily test loading it in |
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| 16:46 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: you're implementing nathan's suggested UI changes? |
| 16:58 | <Soopaman> | where are these suggested UI changes? |
| 16:58 | <nziarek> | www.ziarek.com/mythtv |
| 17:00 | <Soopaman> | k, thanx |
| 17:03 | <Soopaman> | can you enlarge the ss's? |
| 17:05 | <Soopaman> | http://www.ziarek.com/mythtv/images/osd/OSD-showinfo.png is really nice |
| 17:06 | <nziarek> | ss? |
| 17:06 | <PeteCool> | screenshots |
| 17:07 | <nziarek> | oh...yeah...this weekend I wnat to upload all of my change next to the originals, and i'll get them in 800x600 pics. I am leaving for the NCAA tourney tomorrow, though, so can't do it til I get back :) |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | thor, playlists containing playlists? |
| 17:34 | <thor_> | couple of hours |
| 17:35 | <Soopaman> | nziarek, leaving for the tourney? |
| 17:35 | <Soopaman> | do you play? |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 17:38 | <nziarek> | Soopaman : :) no |
| 17:38 | <nziarek> | I watch |
| 17:39 | <Soopaman> | heh |
| 17:39 | <nziarek> | if it is true what they say about white men and jumping, then I am probably about as white as they come :) |
| 17:39 | <Soopaman> | who is your team? |
| 17:39 | <nziarek> | Marquette |
| 17:39 | <nziarek> | you watch? |
| 17:39 | <thor_> | Chutt, otherwise? |
| 17:39 | <Soopaman> | yeah |
| 17:39 | <nziarek> | who you rooting for? |
| 17:39 | <Soopaman> | my sister plays, but they didn't make the tournament this year |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | thor, pretty good |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | thor, playlists-within-playlists is how i want the 'Default playlist' to work, though =) |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | like i went over in that big long email awhile back |
| 17:40 | <thor_> | I hear you |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | but, this seems to work pretty well |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | aside from wiping out my db =) |
| 17:40 | <thor_> | huh? |
| 17:40 | <Chutt> | due to that settings file change |
| 17:41 | <thor_> | ah, sorry |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | i've got all oggs and flacs, takes just a couple seconds to regen |
| 17:41 | <thor_> | and you see progress |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | very nice, that =) |
| 17:41 | <thor_> | One problem there |
| 17:41 | <thor_> | if you call it from runMenu (after a CD rip) |
| 17:42 | <thor_> | it's **REALLYY slow |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 17:42 | <thor_> | I think that's cause Porgress widget is calling processEvents() |
| 17:43 | <thor_> | I'm just putting a flag in to not show the Progress after a CD rip, but still sync to the database |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | but moving stuff around works pretty well |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | and so do the popups |
| 17:43 | <thor_> | Ah, try delete |
| 17:44 | <thor_> | See what I mean about Escape "seeming right" |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure if i like the keybindings for it |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 17:44 | <thor_> | Could be e again, but that's a bit odd ... maybe a digit (0) |
| 17:46 | <thor_> | Who wrote ProgressDialog ? |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | me |
| 17:46 | <thor_> | OK, so why is that ProcessEvents() in there ? |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | to update the progress bar |
| 17:47 | <thor_> | but it's inside the call that is doing that |
| 17:49 | <thor_> | I'm not really sure that's the problem, but something's causing a 98% CPU load if you call it within runMenu |
| 17:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:57 | <thor_> | compiling without processEvents() .... |
| 17:59 | <thor_> | installing ... |
| 17:59 | <thor_> | changing main.cpp in mythmusic ... |
| 18:00 | <thor_> | compiling ... |
| 18:00 | <thor_> | running ... |
| 18:01 | <thor_> | Better, but still weird |
| 18:02 | <thor_> | Actually, quite a bit better when you take out some cout debugging lines |
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| 21:02 | <_shad_> | mdz: around? |
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| 21:47 | <mdz> | _shad_: yes |
| 21:56 | <_shad_> | question |
| 21:56 | <_shad_> | I know you're a debian devel |
| 21:57 | <_shad_> | I wanted to use the hotkeys deb, but it depends on libosdx1, but that doesn't exist anymore |
| 21:57 | <_shad_> | xosd... |
| 21:57 | <_shad_> | any chance of that being fixed any time soon? |
| 21:59 | <mdz> | is this in unstable? |
| 21:59 | <_shad_> | yep |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=179927 |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | looks like the maintainer is out to lunch |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | but it works fine if you recompile it from source |
| 22:00 | <mdz> | apt-get build-dep hotkeys && apt-get source -b hotkeys |
| 22:00 | <_shad_> | ok |
| 22:00 | <_shad_> | thanks |
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| 22:16 | <m0tion> | quick question, will mythtv work in a window that isn't 4:3, or, for that matter will it run when X is not using a 4:3 resolution? |
| 22:21 | <m0tion> | bueller? |
| 22:21 | <m0tion> | bueller? |
| 22:22 | <nyquiljer> | moegreen: ferris? he has the day off |
| 22:22 | <nyquiljer> | ack |
| 22:22 | <moegreen> | m0tion: Do you mean your source will not be in 4:3 |
| 22:22 | <nyquiljer> | m0tion: ferris? he has athe day off. |
| 22:24 | <m0tion> | haha |
| 22:24 | <m0tion> | umm, no, the source is normal tv or whatever, i just mean my PC is running a res that isn't 4:3 |
| 22:24 | <m0tion> | like 1920x1080 |
| 22:25 | <moegreen> | m0tion: it should work, the hardware scaling should be able to hand it. |
| 22:26 | <moegreen> | m0tion: all the menus and interfaces use a seperate multiplier for height and width so it'll just multiply your width by more than your height |
| 22:34 | <m0tion> | hmm, i guess i mean would it strech the video? |
| 22:34 | <m0tion> | from 4:3 to some other ratio, or would it have blank bars on the side? |
| 22:35 | <mdz> | the UI will probably look awful |
| 22:35 | <m0tion> | aww, don't say that |
| 22:39 | <moegreen> | m0tion: I think the font sizes are sized by the horizontal width in most cases, so there could be problems there |
| 22:40 | <moegreen> | most of the interfaces were designed with a 4:3 area in mind so it would talk some extra tweaking to them to make it look right probably |
| 22:40 | <moegreen> | but hey - if you can give it a try and see :) |
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| 22:46 | <_shad> | yay, ipv6. heh |
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| 23:05 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | it doesn't look all that bad at 16:9 |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | video is scaled improperly, of course |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | and things like menu images are stretched |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | the alt epg looks a tad strange, but still useable |
| 23:06 | <_shad> | Question. |
| 23:06 | <_shad> | if I'm using the alt epg, is there any way when scheduling a recording, that it doesn't show the black box? |
| 23:07 | <_shad> | and maybe stretch the info all the way across the top? |
| 23:07 | <moegreen> | _shad: that would be pretty easy to implement I think |
| 23:07 | <_shad> | that would be cool |
| 23:08 | <thor_> | Chutt, playlists within playlists is almost there, should I being trying to merge against updated CVS |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | thor, cool =) |
| 23:09 | <thor_> | As a dev list patch, it's gonna be huge |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | Is that going to bog down your mail system |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | just gzip it first |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | or bzip2 -9 it =) |
| 23:11 | <thor_> | OK, later tonight or some time tomorrow. BTW, I took processEvents() out of ProgressBar, and everything worked |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | might need to make it an option |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | as that definately needs to be there for some things |
| 23:13 | <thor_> | Well .. it worked in bot contexts (from main when no MythMusic window existed and later on when one does from runMenu() ) |
| 23:14 | <thor_> | BTW, am currently trying to build the front end on a Transmeta |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 23:15 | <dweezle> | backend config question... |
| 23:16 | <dweezle> | Would it be possible to run a backend with remote (NFS) storage.. as long as you had local space for a ringbuffer? |
| 23:16 | <thor_> | yes |
| 23:17 | <thor_> | matt's been working (finished?) buffer against latency, bandwidth on 100BaseT is more than enough |
| 23:17 | <dweezle> | so recording is written first to the ringbuffer then xfered to permenent storage? |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | no. |
| 23:18 | <thor_> | No, everything on NFS |
| 23:19 | <dweezle> | maybe i misunderstood you thor_... so it should be possible to run a backend with only NFS storage? |
| 23:19 | <thor_> | yup |
| 23:19 | <dweezle> | NICE. |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | several people are doing that |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | why wouldn't it be possible? |
| 23:20 | <dweezle> | but could this backend also double as a frontend w/o probs? |
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| 23:20 | <Chutt> | why don't you just try it and see? |
| 23:20 | <thor_> | CPU bound, not storage-speed bound |
| 23:21 | <dweezle> | because it would require lots of hardware movement.. reconfig,etc... i'd rather know it's at least possible before I head down that path. |
| 23:22 | <dweezle> | I thought that disk-write performnace was also an issue? not true? |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | as long as it's not horrible, it's not an issue |
| 23:22 | <dweezle> | NFS=not_horrible? |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | with a patch I added to CVS yesterday, remote frontends can read the .nuv file directly from the nfs server rather than streaming from the backend provided they have the same storage directory mounted on the same place and have their storage location set the same in the database. my myth box has storage on nfs, only the ringbuffer & OS are local. |
| 23:23 | <dweezle> | Hardware reconfig, here i come. THX. |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | trying to sell stuff on the mailing list == good way to get yourself kicked off the list |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | just for future reference =) |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | someone just posted on avsforum asking for more step by step instructions on installing than the howto |
| 23:27 | <bigguy> | I need my hand held as well ;) |
| 23:27 | <Justin_> | did you optimize the encoding a lot recently? |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | same as it has been |
| 23:27 | <Justin_> | hmm, strange, it was using 17% cpu for a few top cycles, then went back to 30 |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | easier scenes take less cpu time |
| 23:28 | <Justin_> | yeah, must have been stuck or something |
| 23:30 | <thor_> | WoW ... built on a crusoe |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | thor_: I wrote a nice iostream-based buffer with a reader thread and got everything working, then discovered that iostreams in gcc 3.2 are broken with respect to large file support |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | so I've dropped it for now and I'm buying a switch instead :-) |
| 23:33 | <bigguy> | heh |
| 23:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 23:33 | <bigguy> | you had a hub trying to do this |
| 23:33 | <bigguy> | ? |
| 23:33 | <bigguy> | silly mdz |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | bigguy: you want to buy me a switch? I'd like that |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | it was what I had |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | is, in fact |
| 23:34 | <bigguy> | heh no thanks I just went to the lawyer today about filinf bankruptcy |
| 23:34 | <bigguy> | I can't even afford that |
| 23:35 | <bigguy> | $1200 to file |
| 23:35 | <bigguy> | I don't even have $40 |
| 23:36 | <bigguy> | I thought the $200 filing fee was all that was needed |
| 23:36 | <bigguy> | but no |
| 23:36 | <bigguy> | $1000 for any lawyer in this area minimum |
| 23:37 | <bigguy> | anyway |
| 23:37 | <bigguy> | back to your regularly scheduled programminf |
| 23:37 | <bigguy> | -f+g |
| 23:40 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anyone in here made a lirc transmitter? |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | i've been pondering it |
| 23:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | can't seem to find any decent docs on configuring it after the hardware is built. got the thing sitting here but need to get the software working. :) |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:43 | <thor_> | Not only built, runs on Transmeta ... frontend on my laptop ... this is cool |
| 23:49 | <thor_> | .. but 802.11B does not really seem up to the task |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:59 | <_shad> | wow, I'm helping someone setup mythtv |
| 23:59 | <_shad> | must be popular |
