| 00:00 | <poptix> | well, don't try hitting it with anything |
| 00:01 | <poptix> | they have sensors to detect how many G's the drive has been subjected to =) |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:01 | <poptix> | got a grill? |
| 00:02 | <poptix> | those electronic igniters will kill anything |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:02 | <poptix> | killed the time clock at work once |
| 00:02 | <poptix> | along with the computer it was connected to |
| 00:30 | <yebyen> | blum |
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| 00:53 | <orangey> | hey guys! |
| 00:53 | <orangey> | what exactly is this whole transcode dealie all about? |
| 00:53 | <orangey> | will it allow for the much sought after automagic conversion of nupel to divx, say? |
| 01:04 | <orangey> | ugh. sleep. nightie : ) |
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| 01:32 | <Morph> | hmm what determins the epg's font size? |
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| 02:35 | <hfb> | Anyone here have any experience with home built Serial Port IR Receivers? |
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| 04:49 | <Gulliver> | hi all |
| 04:50 | <Gulliver> | I just tried to checkout mythtv cvs-sources, but I get a timeout. Is the server not available? (I followed the instructions form the mythtv-page) |
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| 05:25 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
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| 07:01 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
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| 08:15 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
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| 08:41 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
| 08:57 | <Gulliver> | hello? |
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| 09:26 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
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| 10:13 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
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| 10:39 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 10:39 | <Chutt> | lost my spiffy cvs mail script |
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| 10:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I've had 2 different people email me the past day giving ideas for better commercial detection using the vbi data. |
| 10:55 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 10:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I need to delve into the existing vbi source in Myth to see what I could use/reuse. |
| 10:55 | <Chutt> | i'm going to have to recreate your cvs account and stuff |
| 10:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, I heard. I got back in town late last night and went through and read like 2 days worth of irc logs. :) |
| 10:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:56 | <Captain_Murdoch> | course that was after I tried to do a "cvs update" when I first sat at the computer. |
| 10:57 | <Chutt> | i'm installing debian on an old drive |
| 10:57 | <Chutt> | right now =) |
| 10:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | was someone having problems with a smp box running Myth? |
| 11:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I got a Dell Poweredge 2300 from work with a bad hard drive and only 1 cpu. I ordered a second cpu to put in it and found out the hard drive is still under warranty (still has 3 more anyway). Ultra2/lvd SCSI, doesn't even have IDE onboard. Going to see how well it will be for a desktop/dev machine. :) |
| 11:05 | <poptix> | i've changed my mind about the whole bootable-myth-frontend thing |
| 11:05 | <poptix> | i'm going to make a netboot setup |
| 11:05 | <poptix> | then it can get the backend info |
| 11:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | poptix, should be easy to get a bootable image that will do that. I've created boot floppys before to do things like that. Boot off the image, mount /usr off of nfs, have video storage dir mounted over nfs also so you can read directly from nfs server rather than going through backend. would work nice, no hard drive in the frontend, just a floppy or solid-state boot drive. |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | and now snowman.net's down |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | funny |
| 11:11 | <Captain_Murdoch> | it's all a MPAA conspiracy |
| 11:12 | * Captain_Murdoch | goes to answer a loud knock at his door and mysteriously never returns |
| 11:13 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I also had one other guy email me a couple days ago asking about converting the commercial skip stuff to work in mplayer or a generic implemtation somehow for divx files. |
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| 11:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:33 | <Chutt> | it's always fun guessing what nic is in a machine |
| 11:36 | <Captain_Murdoch> | just boot off tomsrtbt or some other distro's net install floppy. :) |
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| 12:00 | <Chutt> | hell, the website's down, too |
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| 12:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | see, conspiracy.... |
| 12:02 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 12:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | dns is at snowman.net |
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| 12:07 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 12:12 | <Gulliver> | hi all |
| 12:12 | <Gulliver> | someone here who gets his program-info over nxtvepg? |
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| 12:57 | <poptix> | gah |
| 12:58 | <poptix> | segfaults amoung us |
| 13:02 | <moegreen> | he |
| 13:02 | <moegreen> | h |
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| 13:16 | <poptix> | beware the segfaults! |
| 13:18 | <bigguy> | Save Your Lawn in 90 Days |
| 13:18 | <bigguy> | Content provided by |
| 13:18 | <bigguy> | Start in May |
| 13:18 | <bigguy> | A long, hot summer sounds like torture for your lawn. Summer's scorching days and improper lawn maintenance turn a lawn brown and weak, allowing weeds, insects, and disease to infiltrate easily. The best way to deal with summer lawn crises is to prevent them before they start. |
| 13:18 | <bigguy> | "What most homeowners don't realize is that they're dealing with something that happened a month ago," says Doug Fender, executive director of the Turfgrass Resource Center, a nonprofit group in Illinois. "They see the symptoms and treat the lawn, but it will take another month for the symptoms to go away. They don't think about the curatives that could have prevented it." |
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| 13:19 | <bigguy> | arg |
| 13:19 | <bigguy> | wtf |
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| 13:20 | <bigguy> | oh well afk |
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| 13:27 | <poptix> | yes |
| 13:27 | <poptix> | everyone pour unnecessary chemicals on your lawn! |
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| 14:35 | * ^rcaskey | kicks his ghetto modem |
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| 14:37 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: think you'll have cvs.mythtv.org up soon? |
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| 16:00 | <poptix> | ah hah |
| 16:00 | <poptix> | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 16:00 | <poptix> | [Switching to Thread 884791 (LWP 8281)] |
| 16:00 | <poptix> | 0x406a57a2 in QString::operator=(QString const&) () from /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
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| 17:08 | <poptix> | the commercial skipping sounds rather scary |
| 17:08 | <poptix> | blip blip blip |
| 17:08 | <poptix> | ch ch chirp |
| 17:09 | <poptix> | ch ch |
| 17:09 | <poptix> | whop whop |
| 17:09 | <poptix> | works pretty well though |
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| 17:59 | <cbetan> | Has anyone experienced connectivity problems with mythtv.org? I can't reach the webpage |
| 18:05 | <poptix> | it's down. |
| 18:05 | <poptix> | hard drive died |
| 18:06 | <poptix> | move along now |
| 18:07 | <cbetan> | Ok. Thanks |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | actually, the website's up, you just can't get to it |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | the dns servers for it are down |
| 18:11 | <poptix> | ah. |
| 18:11 | <poptix> | need backup DNS? |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | maybe later |
| 18:11 | <poptix> | mmkay. |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | speakeasy's have problems, it looks like |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | in the DC area |
| 18:11 | <poptix> | besides being on the same lan .. |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 18:12 | <poptix> | i can do slave/tertiary dns if you need to, just let me know |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | i wonder if i should change the cvsroot entirely |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | since versions are going to be different |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | i wonder how that works |
| 18:19 | <poptix> | "Bills larger than $20 will not be accepted for online cash transactions." |
| 18:19 | <poptix> | wtf is this |
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| 19:16 | <Tack> | Has anyone here used mencoder on mythtv files? |
| 19:17 | <Tack> | I'm trying the patch. Even with -oac copy -ovc copy, it will do about 40 seconds of the video and then fail with "Too many audio packets in the buffer: 1024 in 8388608 bytes)." Any ideas? |
| 19:18 | <poptix> | mplayer sucks, use something else |
| 19:18 | <orangey> | poptix; you gotta suggest an alternative if you're gonna be like that |
| 19:18 | <Tack> | Like? |
| 19:18 | <poptix> | xine |
| 19:18 | <poptix> | windows media player |
| 19:18 | <poptix> | =) |
| 19:18 | <Tack> | I see. And xine will let me convert mythtv nuv files to avi? |
| 19:19 | <orangey> | windows media player? |
| 19:19 | <orangey> | how did you get windows media player to play mythtv files? |
| 19:19 | <orangey> | Tack: hehehe : ) |
| 19:20 | <poptix> | Tack: use edit.com in binary mode to convert from nuv to avi |
| 19:20 | <Tack> | poptix: Oh, it's so simple. Thanks, you've been a big help. |
| 19:20 | <orangey> | hahahahaha |
| 19:21 | <orangey> | Tack: I understand your frustration. |
| 19:21 | <orangey> | just look up the buffer audio dealie. |
| 19:21 | <orangey> | and see if there's any way to increase the buffers.. |
| 19:21 | <orangey> | maybe even at the driver level? |
| 19:21 | <poptix> | looking things up is much too hard |
| 19:21 | <poptix> | just keep asking people here |
| 19:21 | <orangey> | poptix: With expertise like yours, I'm not sure how he couldn't have figured it out already |
| 19:22 | <poptix> | orangey: thanks |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | there |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | MC cvs is current |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | now on to the modules |
| 19:22 | <orangey> | Chutt: woohoo! |
| 19:22 | <Tack> | orangey: It's not a driver issue because it's just conversion. I think instead it's a bug in the patch that was written to make mplayer work with mythtv's nuv files. |
| 19:22 | <poptix> | Chutt: yes, but does cvs.mythtv.org resolve =p |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | heh, nope |
| 19:22 | <poptix> | =P |
| 19:23 | <Tack> | And besides, I've looked things up already. :) |
| 19:23 | <poptix> | commercial skipping is chirping at me |
| 19:23 | <orangey> | Chutt: I have experienced a significantly larger amount of seg faults as of late.. has anybody else reported this? or should I start generating bug reports? |
| 19:23 | <orangey> | Tack: People are doing it, though.. you should perhaps try to match the mplayer version |
| 19:23 | <poptix> | orangey: no, chutt is only interested in old bug reports |
| 19:23 | <poptix> | like, from 6 months ago |
| 19:23 | <poptix> | new bugs are 'features' |
| 19:24 | <Chutt> | send in backtraces |
| 19:24 | <orangey> | dear god, man.. |
| 19:24 | <poptix> | 'Error, you've been watching too much TV' *SEGFAULT* |
| 19:24 | <orangey> | Chutt: OK. |
| 19:24 | <Chutt> | otherwise, don't bother |
| 19:24 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 19:24 | <Tack> | orangey: Yeah, although I get the impression everyone else is using mp3, whereas I'm using raw pcm. :) (The patch is for 0.90rc5 which is what I'm using.) |
| 19:24 | <orangey> | Chutt: hehehe. understood.. I was just wondering if others had already had this trouble. |
| 19:25 | * poptix | sighs |
| 19:25 | <orangey> | Tack: Have you tried matching known-good settings? |
| 19:25 | <orangey> | Tack: I'm actually interested in doing this, so maybe I'll try it shortly and let you know my experiences.. |
| 19:26 | <Tack> | orangey: I haven't, since I want to convert a specific nuv and that's what I'm working on. :) |
| 19:26 | <Tack> | I could try transcode. |
| 19:26 | <orangey> | oh! I was wondering what exactly transcode was.. |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | transcode doesn't grok the file format |
| 19:26 | <orangey> | grok? |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | it could be made to easily, though |
| 19:26 | <Tack> | Oh well. |
| 19:27 | <orangey> | Chutt: Is there a frontend for transcode? |
| 19:27 | <orangey> | or any documentation on it? |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't know |
| 19:27 | <orangey> | Chutt: So, what's its main purpose? |
| 19:27 | <orangey> | i searched in the dev archives, but didn't find anything related (that I could tell, anyway) |
| 19:27 | <poptix> | orangey: 'dict' is your friend |
| 19:27 | <poptix> | 2. Used of programs, may connote merely sufficient |
| 19:28 | <poptix> | understanding. "Almost all C compilers grok the "void" type |
| 19:28 | <poptix> | these days." |
| 19:28 | <poptix> | (grok) |
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| 19:31 | <orangey> | so, what does transcode do? i.e., main function? |
| 19:32 | <poptix> | it transcodes |
| 19:32 | <orangey> | oh gem of wisdom! |
| 19:32 | <orangey> | and also, what's the cvs IP? |
| 19:32 | <poptix> | "transcode is a text console video-stream processing tool. It supports elementary video and audio frame transformations. Some example modules are included to enable import of MPEG-1/2, Digital Video, and other formats. It also includes export modules for writing to AVI files with DivX, OpenDivX, XviD, Digital Video or other codecs. Direct DVD transcoding is also supported. A set of tools is available to extract and decode the sources into raw video/audio stream |
| 19:33 | <poptix> | orangey: have you ever heard of a web browser, google, or a dictionary? |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | mythgame and mythgallery done |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hi |
| 19:33 | <orangey> | woah! mythtranscode does all that? |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | um, no |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | you asked about transcode |
| 19:34 | <cbetan> | When running "mysql < mc.sql" I get the following error: ERROR 1046 at line 1: No Database Selected |
| 19:34 | <orangey> | OK, well, what does mythtranscode do at present? |
| 19:34 | <cbetan> | Any hints? |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | cbetan, what's the first line of your mc.sql? |
| 19:35 | <rkulagow_> | hey chutt |
| 19:35 | <Chutt> | i'm going to need to recreate your cvs account |
| 19:36 | <poptix> | orangey: MC/programs/mythtranscode/main.cpp |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | cbetan, don't msg me. |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | where did you get that mc.sql from? |
| 19:38 | <orangey> | cbetan: When you msg, the rest of us can't benefit from the advice, or contribute some of our own |
| 19:38 | <cbetan> | From the source package 0.8 (from Debian unstable) |
| 19:38 | <Chutt> | if you're using the debs, you don't run mysql < mc.sql |
| 19:38 | <orangey> | cbetan: forget the /msg : ) |
| 19:39 | <cbetan> | No, I want to try without using the debs because I have a problem when installing mythtv-database package, so I wanted to find out what was going on by manually interacting with mysql |
| 19:39 | <Chutt> | then un-apply the patches to that file to get the original one |
| 19:40 | <cbetan> | Ok, orangey, I'll forget about /msg. Question: why when you or Chutt are replying to my questions, your names are highlighted? I'm using X-Chat |
| 19:40 | <orangey> | cbetan: Because we say your nick at the leading edge of our response, so xchat knows that we're talking to you |
| 19:41 | <cbetan> | Ok, got it. I thought you were msg'ing me ;) |
| 19:42 | <orangey> | cbetan: nope. |
| 19:44 | <cbetan> | Ok! I see that the diff file includes the mc.sql, so the debian package modifies it. Now, how do I unpatch it? |
| 19:45 | <orangey> | cbetan: why not download the .tar.gz and start over? |
| 19:47 | <cbetan> | Because the website is down ;) |
| 19:47 | <orangey> | why is it "down", as an aside? |
| 19:49 | <orangey> | oh, just read the email |
| 19:49 | <orangey> | rough. |
| 19:50 | <cbetan> | orangey: well, I can't reach it. My machine fails to resolve the name. It doesn't necessarily mean it's down. Got the IP? |
| 19:50 | <orangey> | cbetan: no. it's down. |
| 19:50 | <orangey> | the whole server crashed |
| 19:50 | <orangey> | err. HD |
| 19:51 | <cbetan> | Well, poptix wrote, earlier on, that the disk had crashed |
| 19:51 | <orangey> | wow. I really want a quick chop pro chef's edition (double capacity!) with easy pasta maker.. |
| 19:51 | <cbetan> | So, were can I get the original .tar.gz? |
| 19:52 | <orangey> | cbetan: Not sure, other than the site.. but I gather now that this is what chutt is talkign about.. he's likely restoring everything. |
| 19:54 | <cbetan> | Oops! Debian package includes original .tar.gz - Certainly the mc.sql is different - It works! |
| 19:54 | <cbetan> | So, why when I try to install the debian package mythtv-database it keeps complaining that it can't connect to the database? When I do it manually it works |
| 19:55 | <orangey> | cbetan: perhaps your mysql permissions are messed up. |
| 19:55 | <orangey> | man. I can't believe kissinger is still freaking alive. |
| 19:56 | <orangey> | and still not facing justice. freakin' eh |
| 19:57 | <orangey> | "one of the greatest moments of my life was when the vietnamese in effect accepted our terms for ending the vietnam war" |
| 19:57 | <orangey> | what planet is this guy from!? |
| 19:59 | <cbetan> | orangey: [off-topic] I just finished reading "Stupid White Men", by M. Moore. I guess there are a lot of guys like that unpunished out there. |
| 19:59 | <orangey> | hehehe. have you read the trials of henry kissinger? |
| 19:59 | <orangey> | by hitchens? |
| 20:00 | <orangey> | It's not nearly as easy a read as stupid white men, but it's fascinating.. |
| 20:02 | <cbetan> | orangey: No, I really didn't know about it. Gotta check it on Amazon |
| 20:03 | <orangey> | if you're more of a movie sort of guy, you can watch the documentary by the same name |
| 20:03 | <cbetan> | I'm from Venezuela, and last year there was a coup orchestrated by the US, so I'm currently very concerned about international politics |
| 20:03 | <orangey> | cbetan: I've been following venezuela as closely as possible (it's hard to cut through our media). |
| 20:04 | <orangey> | do you read Z? (www.zmag.org) |
| 20:04 | <poptix> | cbetan: it's your fault i was paying $1.80 a gallon for gasoline |
| 20:04 | <poptix> | bastard. |
| 20:04 | <poptix> | =) |
| 20:04 | <cbetan> | orangey: Yep, I read Z! |
| 20:04 | <orangey> | $1.80 / gallon = ~ $0.60 / Litre |
| 20:04 | <cbetan> | poptix: ;^D |
| 20:05 | <cbetan> | Quite cheap, I would say. Don't complain, here in Brussels you'd pay 1$ per litter, namely $4 per gallon. I think you're in heaven! ;) |
| 20:06 | <cbetan> | (I'm Venezuelan, however I'm living in Belgium) |
| 20:06 | <orangey> | parlez-vous francais? |
| 20:06 | <poptix> | cbetan: closer to $.47 |
| 20:07 | <poptix> | as for brussels, that's your own problem =P |
| 20:07 | <orangey> | poptix: maybe if gas cost a little more, then people wouldn't be so free drive huge-ass SUVs |
| 20:08 | <orangey> | actually, I don't mind. |
| 20:08 | <orangey> | I can't wait for the gas to run out. |
| 20:08 | <orangey> | because we obviously don't have the discipline to use it wisely |
| 20:08 | <cbetan> | orangey: Oui, Je parle francais, mais je ne peut pas le ecrire |
| 20:09 | <orangey> | cbetan: that's OK. I don'to parle or ecrire |
| 20:09 | <orangey> | hables espanol? |
| 20:09 | <orangey> | usted? : ) |
| 20:09 | <cbetan> | orangey: Claro que si, hombre! :) |
| 20:10 | <orangey> | estoy loco comme el gringos |
| 20:11 | <cbetan> | orangey: what do you mean? |
| 20:11 | <orangey> | I'm CRAZY like an american : ) |
| 20:11 | <orangey> | I don't actually know any spanish, though : ) |
| 20:12 | <cbetan> | "estoy loco como un gringo" |
| 20:12 | <cbetan> | Why do you say so? |
| 20:14 | * poptix | points at #chat |
| 20:14 | <orangey> | cbetan: I was just trying to assemble all the spanish that I knew |
| 20:14 | <cbetan> | orangey: nice pictures. In fact, before coming to Europe I new nothing about the Israely genocide against Palestine. Now I know a lot more and I'm very concerned and interested about the subject. Here we have good information about it, however in America we all have a blindfold on our eyes. As long as McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hot, et al, come to town we are all happy. What a shame... |
| 20:15 | <cbetan> | poptix: sure poptix. Sorry for the off topic. |
| 20:15 | <orangey> | cbetan: hehe. I know what you mean. When I grow up, I want to live in Europe |
| 20:15 | <cbetan> | Now, coming back to my issues with mythtv - debian packages are installed without complaints! Great |
| 20:15 | <orangey> | cbetan: good stuff! |
| 20:16 | <orangey> | cbetan: Belgium is quite aware.. They're currently trying sharon, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | However when running mythtv-setup as mythtv user I get the following error: Unable to open database: |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | Driver error was: |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | Database error was: |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | Any hints? |
| 20:16 | <orangey> | cbetan: two things: |
| 20:16 | <orangey> | One, check your permissions. |
| 20:16 | <orangey> | actually, just that.. the other (export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3) isn't applicable here.. |
| 20:16 | <cbetan> | Permissions on the mysql database? How? |
| 20:17 | <orangey> | phpMyAdmin is a good way to play with your MySQL stuff.. |
| 20:20 | <poptix> | not really. |
| 20:20 | <poptix> | /usr/bin/mysql is a good way to play with your MySQL stuff. |
| 20:23 | <cbetan> | In which table should I set the permissions? |
| 20:23 | <orangey> | mythconverg or something |
| 20:28 | <cbetan> | Same error: permission denied |
| 20:28 | <orangey> | oh, and change the mysql.txt to 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost.. |
| 20:28 | <orangey> | that fixed it for me. |
| 20:28 | <cbetan> | I'm using webmin's mysql admin interface and granted permissions to the user |
| 20:29 | <orangey> | the mysql.txt is in /usr/local/share/mythtv |
| 20:29 | <cbetan> | Changed from localhost to 127.0.0.1 just now but still it doesn't work |
| 20:29 | <orangey> | anything in /var/log about it? |
| 20:32 | <cbetan> | No, no trace on /var/log - extrange... |
| 20:33 | <orangey> | hmm. what permissions do you have for your mythtv user? |
| 20:33 | <orangey> | oh, did you restart mysql after setting the permissions? |
| 20:33 | <cbetan> | Yes |
| 20:34 | <poptix> | what? |
| 20:34 | <poptix> | why would you restart mysql? |
| 20:34 | <orangey> | who knows? |
| 20:34 | <orangey> | it might help |
| 20:34 | <poptix> | uh, no? |
| 20:35 | <cbetan> | Yes, I restarted. |
| 20:35 | <poptix> | flush privileges; |
| 20:35 | <cbetan> | Ok, working now |
| 20:35 | <orangey> | cbetan: What fixed it? |
| 20:35 | <cbetan> | I reseted the password of mythtv user to what it was in mysql.txt |
| 20:35 | <orangey> | cbetan: oh yeah.. the debian thing does the random password.. |
| 20:36 | <cbetan> | Yep |
| 20:37 | <cbetan> | It's working! Great, finally I have the mythical mythtv on my screen...see you in a couple of minute ;) |
| 20:37 | <orangey> | hehehe. |
| 20:37 | <orangey> | later |
| 20:38 | <cbetan> | (of course, I have lots of other problems, but we'll come to them later) |
| 20:39 | <cbetan> | (of course, I have lots of other problems, but we'll come to them later) |
| 20:54 | <cbetan> | Could you give me a postalcode to test, please (UK) |
| 21:01 | <justin_> | whats mythtv.org's ip address? |
| 21:06 | <justin_> | mdz: heh, my friend finally got mythtv installed from the debs, but all it did was have the backend segfault when he started mythtv |
| 21:08 | <cbetan> | Ok, guys, mythtv is running. Now I have to fix my TV card problems. But for that I'll be back tomorrow. Thanks a lot for your help! |
| 21:08 | * cbetan | is away: I'm busy |
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| 22:21 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, cvs changes: the directory is now /var/lib/mythcvs and MC has become mythtv |
| 22:21 | <Chutt> | and you should have access now |
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| 22:24 | <crickert> | has anyone used Thac's myth rpm's |
| 22:24 | <Chutt> | are those the mandrake ones? |
| 22:25 | <orangey> | Chutt: is mythtv.org resolving now? |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | orangey, nope |
| 22:26 | <crickert> | yes, those are the mandrake rpms |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | guy that runs the dns servers isn't going to be back for a few more hours |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | crickert, i've not had any reports of anyone using them |
| 22:26 | <orangey> | Chutt: Another silly question: I wrote a tiny patch that puts stars (equivalent to ratings in the database) by the names of movies.. it is a super-shitty hack of a patch.. How would you recommend I field it for perusal / suggestion? diff / email the list? |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:27 | <orangey> | Chutt: is there any instruction on the prefered format? I couldn't find any in the documentation upon a quick search |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | diff -u |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | once you have a cvs checkout, it's cvs -z3 diff -u > diff.diff |
| 22:28 | <orangey> | so, I check out the CVS, then I do that command? |
| 22:28 | <orangey> | and I end up with a file, diff.diff, that can be submitted? |
| 22:28 | <crickert> | i got a question that isn't quite address on the maillist |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | check out cvs, make your mods, then do that from the working directory |
| 22:29 | <orangey> | Chutt: OK.. cool. Could we put something like this in the mythdocs? Maybe a small section for that, and another small section for the proper way to submit bug reports? |
| 22:29 | <crickert> | here's the scenerio..sound works..check...live tv...check - error in Konsole...check |
| 22:29 | <crickert> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 22:29 | <crickert> | audio volume set to '32768' |
| 22:29 | <crickert> | strange error flushing buffer .. |
| 22:29 | <crickert> | anyone familiar with that one |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | it's in the faq, actually |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | but you can't get to that since the webpage isn't reachable =) |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | just ignore it |
| 22:30 | <crickert> | is the site down? |
| 22:30 | <orangey> | Chutt: the bug reports stuff / cvs? or this audio problem? |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | orangey, that was to crickert |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | write up a section and send it to rkulagow |
| 22:30 | <crickert> | in the frontend Konsole I get this : Delaying to next trigger: 23205924 for several lines |
| 22:30 | <orangey> | Chutt: Will do.. |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | crickert, what's your cpu usage like? |
| 22:31 | <orangey> | crickert: (you can use "top" to find out) |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | generally only get that when you're running low on cpu |
| 22:31 | <crickert> | when myth is running or without? |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | when it's running, of course |
| 22:32 | <crickert> | let me check |
| 22:32 | <orangey> | Chutt: last question.. is there an option nowadays to enable debugging on mythbackend? |
| 22:33 | <orangey> | or do we still have to compile it in? |
| 22:33 | <crickert> | which number am i looking for when i do the : top command |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | you have to compile it in |
| 22:33 | <crickert> | backend is at 50% |
| 22:33 | <orangey> | any compelling reason for it to not be compiled in always? |
| 22:33 | <Chutt> | because it kills performance? |
| 22:34 | <orangey> | Chutt: You are tough but fair |
| 22:36 | <crickert> | what %cpu should the backend be taking |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | depends on what your recording settings are, of course |
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| 22:50 | <crickert> | chutt: my CPU usage was out of the sky...60% |
| 22:50 | <crickert> | my system took a puke and i had to reboot |
| 22:50 | <crickert> | i suppose an AMD athlon 900 isn't fast enought huh? |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | lower the capture resolution |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | don't compress the audio |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 22:52 | <crickert> | how do i tell it not to compress audio |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | you go into the recording setup screen and tell it not to compress audio |
| 22:52 | <crickert> | well, is there a way to disable the recording all together |
| 22:53 | <crickert> | or is that an integral part of the system? |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | why would you want to do that? |
| 22:53 | <crickert> | heck i don't think my machine is up to the challenge |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | it's fine for it |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | the default settings are just too high for you |
| 22:53 | <crickert> | ok |
| 22:55 | <crickert> | is it under Audio settings? |
| 22:57 | <Chutt> | tried reading the docs? |
| 22:57 | <crickert> | got em in a binder three hole punched |
| 22:58 | <crickert> | section 10.5? |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | it is sparse, but the recording setup should be easy to understand |
| 22:58 | <crickert> | i have it at RTJPeg already |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | lower the res |
| 22:59 | <crickert> | from 480 down to ? |
| 22:59 | <crickert> | 300 something? |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | try 352x240 |
| 22:59 | <crickert> | ty |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | won't look as nice, but it's good to start with something easy and then work up |
| 23:01 | <crickert> | also, is it normal to have two profiles for recording ...one Defaul and one LiveTV? |
| 23:01 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:01 | <Chutt> | default's for scheduled recordings |
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| 23:35 | <Timon> | hey inman |
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| 23:38 | <devnu11> | anyone alive here? |
| 23:38 | * devnu11 | pokes moegreen |
| 23:38 | <Timon> | barely |
| 23:39 | <devnu11> | dunno if this is new news or not, but i havent been able to get to the mythtv website for a week or so now (fails dns lookups) |
| 23:40 | <devnu11> | and i had a mythweather q, which i guess i am supposed to direct at moegreen there |
| 23:41 | <moegreen> | devnu11: what's your question? |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | devnu11, the dns servers have been down for 12 hours |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | not a week. |
| 23:41 | <Timon> | Chutt: You need someone to host dns for you? |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | no |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | i don't |
| 23:42 | <Timon> | k |
| 23:42 | <devnu11> | followed instructions in readme, and in the setup there are no cities listed, and says "Missing ACCID Data File!" at the bottom of hte screen |
| 23:42 | <devnu11> | oh, sorry, i coulda sworn i tried loading it the past several days and got nothing... |
| 23:43 | <moegreen> | devnu11: is there a file /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythweather/accid.dat? |
| 23:44 | <devnu11> | perhaps the mythweather distro was incomplete however, since with the website down and no mirrors, all i could find was a noarch rpm that i ran rpm2cpio on |
| 23:44 | <devnu11> | no moegreen |
| 23:44 | <devnu11> | that dir does exist, and there is other stuff in it, but not that file |
| 23:45 | <moegreen> | ok...hold on a sec |
| 23:46 | * devnu11 | works on mythmusic for hte time being |
| 23:46 | <moegreen> | http://www.untzuntz.com/mythtv/weather/accid.dat |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | moegreen, jdanner was your username, right? |
| 23:48 | <moegreen> | Chutt: yeah |
| 23:49 | <devnu11> | btw, anyone here using mythtv with a voodoo3 3500tv? |
| 23:49 | <Timon> | devnull - check the mailing list archives |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | that won't work as a tuner card |
| 23:49 | <devnu11> | moegreen, that did the trick, thanks |
| 23:50 | <devnu11> | Chutt, oh, damn, but i do have a couple other tuner cards so its not a biggie, tv-out is what i was really after |
| 23:50 | <devnu11> | heh |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure on the tv out |
| 23:51 | <devnu11> | ive been trying to get the v3tv package to work, its pretty complicated, but i do think i can get it going |
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| 23:52 | <Chutt> | moegreen, i don't think i had the latest cvs of mythweather |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | when i restored everything |
| 23:52 | <moegreen> | Chutt: you mean the weathertypes or even later (pre-map) |
| 23:52 | <Chutt> | weathertypes |
| 23:53 | <moegreen> | ok, I'll commit it when I can connect to it |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | and |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | i may not have the latest ui.xml for liquid and blue |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | so, mind checking? =) |
| 23:53 | <moegreen> | np |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | i've changed the cvsroot slightly |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | since everyone needs to do a clean checkout again |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | going to be in /var/lib/mythcvs now |
| 23:54 | <moegreen> | heh, that should be fun for your DSL line in the coming days |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | and MC has become mythtv |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | everything else should be the same |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | and you can access through that hostname you just connected to |
| 23:54 | <Chutt> | until dns comes back, at least =) |
| 23:55 | <Chutt> | so it should be pretty easy to see what's missing from your last couple checkins, if anything |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | i did lose all change history on mythweather since mid march, though |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | so, sorry 'bout that :( |
| 23:56 | <devnu11> | have a server crash? |
| 23:56 | <moegreen> | heh, not a problem - I've got it all here |
| 23:56 | <Chutt> | the cvs server's drive went away |
| 23:57 | <devnu11> | ahh, that sucks |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | and i've been being bad about backups |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | didn't lose anything important, though, so it's all good |
| 23:57 | <devnu11> | umm, i think i backed up all my websites to cd about, ohh, a year ago? |
| 23:57 | <devnu11> | hehe |
| 23:58 | * devnu11 | emerges the 3 billion prereqs for mythmusic |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | it's not that bad |
| 23:59 | <devnu11> | hehe |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | lame, vorbis, mad |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | sdl if you want some nice lookin vis stuff |
| 23:59 | <FryGuy> | is there an ETA on the website in the topic to be unborkified? :p |
| 23:59 | <Timon> | Speaking of backups. . . I need to do the same |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | libcdaudio and libcdparanoia |
| 23:59 | <moegreen> | there it is |
| 23:59 | <Chutt> | fryguy, dunno |