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| 00:00 | <Chutt> | whenever snowman gets back home and has a chance to fix things |
| 00:00 | <Chutt> | assuming it's something under his control |
| 00:01 | <FryGuy> | dang. |
| 00:01 | <FryGuy> | i just wanted to get the mythweb from cvs |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | if it's not, i'll get someone else to host secondary dns for me |
| 00:01 | <FryGuy> | for some reason it seg faults my mythbackend |
| 00:01 | <devnu11> | umm, i dont need the libcd stuff if i dont intend to play cds, right? (system doesnt even have a cdrom) |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | cvs is still down |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | for anonymous access |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | devnu11, i don't like making things optional |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | too much hassle |
| 00:02 | <devnu11> | hehe, ok, then install it is :) |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | added source for bugs |
| 00:02 | <devnu11> | ugh, bugs. i hate bugs |
| 00:02 | <devnu11> | im a perl programmer by day |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | now |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | the big question is |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | how long will this ancient WD drive last |
| 00:03 | <devnu11> | haha |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | i think i got it in '97 |
| 00:04 | <devnu11> | well if my 486 mail server is still working with its stock drive, i think yer ok :P |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | this is a WD drive |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | though |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | and it's a replacement for a replacement drive |
| 00:04 | <devnu11> | hehe |
| 00:05 | <devnu11> | ive got a wide mixture of wd, seagate, maxtor, and ibm, both in ide and scsi |
| 00:05 | <moegreen> | blue's UI.xml is up to date |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | viewcvs is also running on there, if you have the need to use that |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | oh, oops |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | it's broken =) |
| 00:06 | <Timon> | I was just about to paste the error from viewcvs :-) |
| 00:06 | <devnu11> | man i love gentoo, installing stuff is just so damn easy |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | had changed the path to cvs but didn't change it in the viewcvs conf |
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| 00:18 | <devnu11> | oh sweet, "silent warnings" is on scifi tonight, forgot about that |
| 00:20 | <devnu11> | is there a screen that shows how much time is scheduled for recording, and an estimate of how time is available based on free hdd space? |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:21 | <devnu11> | hahaha, im setting this up over a vnc connection to my box since i havent gotten tvout working yet, and its actually streaming video over the vnc connection :) |
| 00:22 | <justin> | can you turn off the video on the epg anymore? |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | it doesn't use any extra cpu to display, so |
| 00:22 | <justin> | well... |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | just lose a little bit of screen space when you go to the epg in live-tv mode |
| 00:23 | <devnu11> | wow, and its getting upwards of 5fps at 1024x768. vnc is impressive! |
| 00:23 | <justin> | 1) my video card is shitty and can't downscale Xv, and 2) you lose a lot of space:) |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | actually, you probably can disable it by mucking around in the theme xml |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | ui.xml |
| 00:23 | <moegreen> | justin: if you want, copy the <window name="programguide"> |
| 00:24 | <moegreen> | to the <window name="programguide-video"> tag |
| 00:24 | <devnu11> | oops, crashed vnc :) |
| 00:24 | <moegreen> | the contents of the previous - that is |
| 00:24 | <moegreen> | that might work :) |
| 00:25 | <devnu11> | ok, wrong again, crashed the machine |
| 00:25 | <devnu11> | bleh |
| 00:25 | <justin> | ah, change programguide-video to the same as programguide? |
| 00:25 | <justin> | devnu11: normal X might be better than vnc for mythtv |
| 00:25 | <devnu11> | ya think? hehe |
| 00:25 | <devnu11> | i suppose its time to work on that tv-out thing then |
| 00:26 | <devnu11> | machine is downstairs and im up here tho... |
| 00:26 | <moegreen> | justin: well, if there is video to be shown - it loads the programguide-video, but if you were to copy all the containers from the 'programguide' then it will have the same layout as without video |
| 00:26 | <moegreen> | but I'm not sure how it will react to a 0x0 area for the video - that might need to be checked in the code because it's not now |
| 00:26 | <justin> | yeah...so delete programguide-video, copy programguide and rename the second to programguide-video? |
| 00:26 | <moegreen> | yeah |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | wanna bet you didn't initialize the video area to 0? =) |
| 00:27 | <moegreen> | i know it isn't in fact :) |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | so, bad things'll probably happen |
| 00:27 | <moegreen> | justin: keep the <container name="current_video"> in the programguide-video |
| 00:27 | <moegreen> | and change the sizes to 0,0,0,0 |
| 00:27 | <justin> | ahh fsckit, i'll leave it |
| 00:28 | <moegreen> | heh |
| 00:35 | <devnu11> | hmm |
| 00:36 | <devnu11> | what does it mean when a computer stops booting at the bios screen after "verifying DMI pool data..."? |
| 00:38 | <Ndiin> | devnu11: It should be done with the bios at that point, at onto the harddrive/netboot/floppy/whatever. |
| 00:39 | <devnu11> | hmmm |
| 00:41 | <devnu11> | oh well, guess i will deal with it tomorrow |
| 01:00 | <poptix> | erp? |
| 01:00 | <poptix> | Backend stopped in RequestRingBufferBlock |
| 01:02 | <orangey> | poptix: I'm seeing that too |
| 01:04 | <PeteCool> | orangey: I'm having problems with SasQuatch 0.5.4.5 |
| 01:04 | <orangey> | PeteCool: Grab the new ui.xml from http://tarek.2y.net/myth/SasQuatch/ |
| 01:05 | <orangey> | PeteCool: It's actually undergone quite a few changes.. I just need to finish them up and zip it up into a new SQ .tar.gz |
| 01:05 | <PeteCool> | orangey: the screens in playback and setup wizards aren't correct... |
| 01:05 | <orangey> | the programguide, for example, is a little better than 1/2 done.. |
| 01:05 | <orangey> | PeteCool: screens? |
| 01:05 | <orangey> | example? |
| 01:05 | <PeteCool> | they don't seem to have been updated since may 1st |
| 01:06 | <PeteCool> | hmm, is there a program to take a screenshot from a console? imagemagick? |
| 01:06 | <orangey> | yeah, I made my changes before then.. |
| 01:06 | <orangey> | from a console? don't know.. |
| 01:06 | <PeteCool> | the ui.xml from right before 0.5.4 is fine about that |
| 01:07 | <orangey> | are you talking about text breaking out of the boxes? |
| 01:07 | <orangey> | or are the images themselves messed up? |
| 01:07 | <PeteCool> | basically, just go to the playbackbox with blue, go change the theme to SasQuatch-latest, and parts of the screen is still from blue |
| 01:08 | <PeteCool> | or sometimes, I got to setup, and the page has a tansparent background: I see the previous screen through the text |
| 01:08 | <PeteCool> | again, pre 0.5.4 is fine about that |
| 01:08 | <orangey> | this is with the latest CVS? |
| 01:08 | <orangey> | cuz I'm certainly not seeing that happen over here.. |
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| 01:09 | <PeteCool> | orangey: its with yesterday's CVS |
| 01:10 | <orangey> | PeteCool: Hmmm. if you could screenshot it, that would certainly help |
| 01:10 | <orangey> | and try with the new ui.xml and see what's up |
| 01:11 | <PeteCool> | orangey: unless the dates on your webserver are wrong I'm using the latest |
| 01:12 | <PeteCool> | I'll get it again anyway |
| 01:14 | <orangey> | hmmm. OK, but probably no sense if it's the latest one.. anyway, grab me a screen if possible (ksnapshot if you're kde'ing) |
| 01:14 | <orangey> | that would be the most helpful in getting through it. |
| 01:15 | <PeteCool> | orangey: import from imagemagick should be able to do it |
| 01:16 | <PeteCool> | orangey: I could summarize what I see as: "your ui.xml doesn't initialize the background right in some screens" |
| 01:16 | <PeteCool> | orangey: but I'm not sure of the workings of the themes, so I don't know if that makes sense |
| 01:17 | <orangey> | PeteCool: Funny thing, that.. it really doesn't. |
| 01:17 | <orangey> | because the background is pretty much just assigned once, and that's it.. |
| 01:22 | <PeteCool> | orangey: what I have showing on my screen right now should explain it |
| 01:22 | <PeteCool> | explanations for when it's done: I went to that screen with blue, changed the theme to SQ-latest, and went to the screen again |
| 01:22 | <PeteCool> | you'll notice the shapes are right, but not the background |
| 01:23 | <orangey> | OK, will do it in a moment.. |
| 01:23 | <orangey> | seems like a myth-side error, though |
| 01:23 | <orangey> | does ti resolve when you start up in SQ? |
| 01:23 | <PeteCool> | nope, I just have some sort of blank-beige background |
| 01:23 | <PeteCool> | I can SS that too |
| 01:24 | <orangey> | hmmm. |
| 01:24 | <orangey> | download the 2 background*.png's |
| 01:25 | <orangey> | I think I messed one of them up in .5.4.5 |
| 01:25 | <PeteCool> | pixie SasQuatch-0.5.4.5 # ls -l ba* |
| 01:25 | <PeteCool> | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43012 Apr 27 11:07 background.png |
| 01:25 | <PeteCool> | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43012 Apr 27 11:07 background2.png |
| 01:26 | <orangey> | OK, good stuff.. |
| 01:26 | <orangey> | so, even when you started in SQ, it still has that error? |
| 01:26 | <PeteCool> | yep |
| 01:27 | <PeteCool> | well, not if I use the ui.xml I grabbed before 0.5.4 |
| 01:27 | <orangey> | well, those ui.xml's shouldn't even work! |
| 01:28 | <PeteCool> | the last time I tried it, I mean... they're lacking some parts IIRC |
| 01:28 | <PeteCool> | If I only go to playback its fine |
| 01:29 | <orangey> | but? |
| 01:30 | <PeteCool> | If I go to, the conflict resolution I think, it'll crash since your ui.xml doesn't have anything about that... but the wacky backgrounds problem isn't there |
| 01:30 | <orangey> | Ah. I see.. |
| 01:30 | <orangey> | do you have transparencies enabled? |
| 01:31 | <orangey> | ui.xml doesn't even *touch* the background.. that's relegated to background.png |
| 01:32 | <PeteCool> | Use transparent boxes? that one is enabled |
| 01:32 | <orangey> | hmm. seems like all our options match |
| 01:32 | <orangey> | I'm not sure why it would work for me and not for you. A moment. I'll zip up the whole current directory |
| 01:32 | <orangey> | just erase what you have now and replace it. |
| 01:34 | <orangey> | http://tarek.2y.net/myth/SasQuatch-0.5.4.6.tar.gz |
| 01:35 | <PeteCool> | k |
| 01:37 | <PeteCool> | hmm... I must have had one corrupted file... it's ok now |
| 01:37 | <PeteCool> | sorry for the lost time :( |
| 01:37 | <orangey> | PeteCool: No fear. |
| 01:37 | <orangey> | needless to say, we're some ways off from even getting SQ working with everything that's happening right now |
| 01:39 | <PeteCool> | hmm, what's missing? some epg tweaking? (I'm seeing blue boxes here, but that ain't so bad - takes a few seconds to fix anyway) |
| 01:41 | <PeteCool> | Everything seems alright to me |
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| 02:12 | <orangey> | PeteCool: Well, the EPG without the preview window is completely untouched so far.. Then there is the mythweather and mythvideo UIs |
| 02:13 | <orangey> | not sure if you noticed that I redid the programfinder.. |
| 02:14 | <orangey> | I gave it less space for the search boxes and more for the info box |
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| 02:31 | <PeteCool> | orangey: yes, that's nice |
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| 03:23 | <Timon> | someone told me the other day the command to figure out if a file has symbol info, anyone remember what that is? |
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| 03:31 | <FryGuy> | file? |
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| 03:33 | <Timon> | FryGuy: that might be it! |
| 03:33 | <FryGuy> | i think file just tells you the type |
| 03:34 | <Timon> | That was the command! |
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| 03:36 | <Timon> | This is really pissin me off. I recompiled mythtv with debug support and recompiled mythmusic but when I try to gdb it, its says no symbol table |
| 03:36 | <Timon> | err recompiled mythmusic with debug support as well |
| 03:36 | <Timon> | hey inman |
| 03:36 | <inman> | sup |
| 03:36 | <Timon> | Couple of ?'s for you. |
| 03:37 | <inman> | yep |
| 03:37 | <Timon> | You know that new 160gb I bought? Its a WD 160gb 7200 RPM w/ 8MB cache |
| 03:37 | <Timon> | Well, my old drive was a WD 100GB 7200 RPM 2MB cache |
| 03:37 | <Timon> | (Both ATA100) |
| 03:37 | <Timon> | I dd'd the 100 to the 160, but the 160 boots super slow. |
| 03:37 | <Timon> | Any ideas? |
| 03:37 | <inman> | who cares about boot time? |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | Boots really really really slow for both linux and windows? |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | I do :-) |
| 03:38 | <inman> | what does that mean "boots slow"? |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | Its seriously at least twice as slow |
| 03:38 | <inman> | the bios is slow to init the disk? |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | No, sorry |
| 03:38 | <inman> | what is the output of `hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hdb` |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | For example, loading the initrd image, is so slow |
| 03:38 | <Timon> | 55mb/s |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | make clean |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | make distclean |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | hdb isn't hookedup |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | argh |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | hdb isn't hooked up |
| 03:39 | <inman> | what is 55m/s? |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | the 160gb |
| 03:39 | <Timon> | the 100 got about 45mb/s |
| 03:40 | <Timon> | err 55mb/s |
| 03:40 | * inman | thinks. |
| 03:40 | <inman> | well, initially i would troubleshoot the disk with hdparm and make sure it is setup for best i/o speeds. |
| 03:40 | <Timon> | Previously, I wouldn't see the "Loading Linux. . . ." screen |
| 03:41 | <Timon> | lemme reinstall hdparm. I've wiped the partition a couple of times |
| 03:41 | <inman> | uh, why? |
| 03:41 | <Timon> | Because I wanted to try mandrake 9.1 again. |
| 03:41 | <Timon> | Went back to 9.0 |
| 03:42 | <Timon> | [root@pvr hdparm-5.3]# hdparm -tT /dev/hda |
| 03:42 | <Timon> | /dev/hda: |
| 03:42 | <Timon> | Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.46 seconds =278.26 MB/sec |
| 03:42 | <Timon> | Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.21 seconds = 52.89 MB/sec |
| 03:43 | <inman> | so, what exactly is slow. |
| 03:43 | <inman> | just the `loading linux` line? |
| 03:43 | <Timon> | Well, the screen that says "Loading Linux" its super slow |
| 03:43 | <Timon> | Booting xp is super slow as well |
| 03:44 | <bigguy> | Timon: what motherboard? |
| 03:44 | <Timon> | kx7-333 I believe (abit) |
| 03:44 | <inman> | don't use the word screen if you don't have to. |
| 03:45 | <inman> | you are not distinguishing between lilo, the kernel, init, runlevels, et cetera. |
| 03:45 | <bigguy> | Timon: updated the bios since you got it? |
| 03:45 | <Timon> | bigguy: Yeah |
| 03:45 | <Timon> | Sorry inman |
| 03:45 | <Timon> | the lilo screen is slow as well |
| 03:46 | <inman> | Timon: i've spent most of the day under my car finishing some work, so i'm very tired. don't take my shortness the wrong way. :-) |
| 03:46 | <Timon> | inman: hehe, ok :-) Thanks for the warning |
| 03:46 | <Timon> | what was wrong with your car? |
| 03:47 | <inman> | i was swapping a differential into my supra-tt. it was not a standard part-swap, so things got a little complicated. |
| 03:47 | <Timon> | err my mobo is kx7-333 |
| 03:47 | <Timon> | Sounds like a blast :-) |
| 03:48 | <inman> | did you change any of your bios settings? |
| 03:48 | <Timon> | Why'd you swap the diff? |
| 03:48 | <Timon> | inman: Nope |
| 03:48 | <Timon> | Hard drives are set to auto-detect |
| 03:48 | <inman> | i blew up the diff and propeller shafts while racing. |
| 03:49 | <Timon> | Ahhh, that explains it :-) |
| 03:49 | <inman> | i wanted to switch to the diff from an automatic since i wanted a taller rear gear. |
| 03:49 | <Timon> | 1/4 mile? Street? |
| 03:49 | <inman> | 1/4 mile |
| 03:49 | <Timon> | brackets? |
| 03:49 | <inman> | now my 6-speed has better gearing, i think. |
| 03:49 | <Timon> | You have a six speed in your supra? |
| 03:49 | <inman> | Timon: i run pro-street. |
| 03:50 | <inman> | Timon: stock 6m, yes. |
| 03:50 | * Timon | 's a racing fan. Prefer nascar, but 1/4 mile is fun too |
| 03:50 | <inman> | Timon: this is the mkiv, late gen. supra twin-turbo. my car has ~420hp at the wheel, probly ~480 or so at the crank. |
| 03:51 | <Timon> | Beefy! |
| 03:51 | <inman> | i'm not really a fan of drag racing, it's just a good way to test+tune the car. |
| 03:51 | <inman> | i've run a 12.4 on street tires at the local backwoods track. |
| 03:51 | <Timon> | bigguy: Two updates for my bios since I've updated, but none dealing with HD's. Both deal with adding support for the latest athlons |
| 03:52 | <Timon> | Thats not bad |
| 03:52 | <inman> | Timon: you gotta get both disks in there for some real comparisons. |
| 03:52 | <Timon> | inman: I can tell you roughly what the parms were for the 100 |
| 03:52 | <inman> | Timon: i know people running 11.4 on stock turbos. |
| 03:52 | <inman> | Timon: it doesn't matter. it's not a very good test unless they are both in the system running from one kernel. |
| 03:52 | <Timon> | it was like 250mb/s for cache and 45mb/s for buffered disk |
| 03:52 | <inman> | maybe you dd didn't work right. |
| 03:53 | <Timon> | But why would both os's boot if it didn't work right? |
| 03:53 | <inman> | Timon: why would they boot slower if it did? |
| 03:53 | <Timon> | Why doesn't my linux boot faster after I reloaded the os if it were the case that dd screwed up? |
| 03:54 | <inman> | oh, i didn't release you reloading without dd'ing. |
| 03:54 | <inman> | er, realize. |
| 03:54 | <Timon> | inman: I dunno. It could very well be something with the bios though. Cause things get speedy after the os loads. Which would indicate that the os has taken over control of the hardware and not the bios any longer |
| 03:54 | <inman> | yeah, i'm really that tired. |
| 03:55 | <Timon> | inman: I dd'd, then I reloaded the linux partition on my new 160 |
| 03:55 | <inman> | it's 4a here. |
| 03:55 | <Timon> | ouch |
| 03:55 | <inman> | Timon: um, i have a theory. |
| 03:55 | <Timon> | I know that there used to be a 137gb limit |
| 03:55 | <Timon> | Whats that? |
| 03:55 | <inman> | i think that limit is screwing you. |
| 03:55 | <Timon> | the 137gb limit? |
| 03:56 | <inman> | i think you need to futz with kernel or bios to make it play nicely. |
| 03:56 | <inman> | it may never be as fast. |
| 03:56 | <inman> | it's probly slow because the bios is doing some sorta weird address translation. |
| 03:56 | <Timon> | Once it gets loaded its faster. |
| 03:56 | <Timon> | inman: thats exactly what I was thinking |
| 03:56 | <inman> | and, that bootup point is where the kernel has to use bios to do the reads. |
| 03:56 | <inman> | after the kernel loads, it can probe the system and do direct access. |
| 03:57 | <Timon> | The drive did come with a promise card. |
| 03:57 | <inman> | before that, lilo et cetera has to talk to the bios, which may be slowing stuff down due to the limit. |
| 03:57 | <Timon> | thats exactly what I was thinking |
| 03:57 | <inman> | you could try it, but frankly i would just give up on getting speedy boot times. |
| 03:57 | <inman> | what kinda difference are we talking here? |
| 03:57 | <Timon> | 30-45 seconds |
| 03:58 | <inman> | 30-45 slower or one is 30 and one is 45? |
| 03:58 | <Timon> | sorry, 30-45 seconds slower |
| 03:58 | <Timon> | My whole boot time before used to be 1:15 on xp. now its more like 2+ |
| 03:59 | <inman> | i really think we've found your problem. |
| 03:59 | <Timon> | agreed |
| 04:00 | <Timon> | Its not going to be in my machine for that long. Maybe < 6 months. Until I get the funds to build a dedicated myth box |
| 04:01 | <inman> | hmm, the taller final gear in my car means my speedo will be off by roughly 25%. |
| 04:01 | <inman> | but, i will also scream through the rpms at about 2 seconds faster per gear. |
| 04:01 | <inman> | and i can launch the car more easily. |
| 04:02 | <Timon> | sweet! |
| 04:02 | <inman> | yeah, this thing is a monster. |
| 04:02 | <inman> | not much good in AK though. :-( |
| 04:03 | <Timon> | Sure it is :-) |
| 04:03 | <Timon> | We have a 1/4 mile, and an oval |
| 04:03 | <inman> | this ain't a grand national. |
| 04:03 | <Timon> | I presume its front wheel drive? |
| 04:03 | <inman> | it's designed for curves. rear-wheel drive. |
| 04:04 | <Timon> | inman: I see people driving worse cars and trucks up here in teh winter |
| 04:04 | <inman> | i also have a super-charged miata for track use (rear wheel) and a front wheel drive corrado vr6 for snow. |
| 04:04 | <inman> | the supra is just for the chicks. ;-P |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | The fad of slamming finally made its way up here a few years ago. You see people in cars that sit just a few inches off the ground that people drive in the snow |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | And of cource they get stuck :-) |
| 04:05 | <inman> | hey, with a limited slip diff, the supra is pretty fun in the snow if you have snow tires. |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | hahaha, for the chicks |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | You have snow where your at? |
| 04:05 | <inman> | ditto for the miata. |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | nebrask? |
| 04:05 | <inman> | hell yeah, i'm in boston. some of the worst weather on the planet, imo. |
| 04:05 | <Timon> | you haven't seen ak :-) |
| 04:06 | <inman> | i guess that's true. :-) |
| 04:06 | <Timon> | Snow and ice is pretty bad sometimes. |
| 04:06 | <Timon> | But, I will say this. . . They don't salt up here!!!! |
| 04:06 | <Timon> | That shit will eat your car in no times |
| 04:06 | <Timon> | err time |
| 04:06 | <inman> | i lived in NH where we had regular evenings of 10-30 below 0 and perma-snow. |
| 04:06 | <Timon> | They sand which is good |
| 04:06 | <inman> | yeah, sand is great. |
| 04:07 | <inman> | it's strange, but many states in the northeast don't seem to know about sand. |
| 04:07 | <Timon> | cept in the spring, when it gets dusty until they sweep. |
| 04:07 | <Timon> | inman: My boss is from wisconson, she said in the spring, the streets would literally be white and crusted with salt they used it so much |
| 04:07 | <Timon> | She said cars rusted quick |
| 04:08 | <inman> | yep. it's really annoying. |
| 04:08 | <Timon> | inman: You haven't felt cold till you've been to prudhoe bay, ak :-) |
| 04:08 | <inman> | i've been to mount washington |
| 04:08 | <inman> | supposedly some of the worst weather. but, i wasn't living there, just visiting. |
| 04:08 | <Timon> | 10 below doesn't feel bad until you've felt it with a 20-30mph wind. Heck, sometimes it get down to -70f |
| 04:09 | <inman> | that's pretty bad. |
| 04:09 | <inman> | water-freezing-in-mid-air bad. |
| 04:09 | <Timon> | Prudhoe bay they tell me doesn't get up bas 40-50 in the summer. |
| 04:09 | <inman> | masochists. |
| 04:09 | <Timon> | I couldn't imagine working in that weather |
| 04:10 | <Timon> | Well, there are buses to take you every where. Most guys arne't outside for long. |
| 04:10 | <inman> | i could, indoors. |
| 04:10 | <Timon> | The food is awesome though |
| 04:10 | <Timon> | First night I was there, there was halibut and some other meat dish. Second night, steak and salmon |
| 04:11 | <Timon> | Plus salad bar, fruit, soda fountains all over. A whole freezer dedicated to just ice cream. |
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| 04:11 | <Gulliver> | hi all |
| 04:11 | <Gulliver> | someone awake? |
| 04:11 | <inman> | no. |
| 04:11 | <Gulliver> | (c; |
| 04:11 | <Timon> | Mind you this is the BP camps. I don't know about the Philips or some of the other ones |
| 04:11 | <inman> | seriously, i'm useless unless you've got a real quickie. |
| 04:11 | <Gulliver> | does someone knows whats up with the cvs server? |
| 04:11 | <inman> | it's dead. |
| 04:12 | <inman> | it'll be back, rebuilt with new hardware. |
| 04:12 | <inman> | disk failure. |
| 04:12 | <inman> | watch the lists and take it easy. |
| 04:12 | <Gulliver> | uugh - sounds bad )c: |
| 04:12 | <Timon> | inman: Nother question for you. I re-compiled mythmusic with debug, but when I try to gdb it, it says no symble table. I did file /usr/local/bin/mythmusic and it says it hasn't been stripped. |
| 04:12 | <Timon> | has anyone recieved mail from the list today? |
| 04:12 | <Gulliver> | so there's no way to get an actual cvs checkout? |
| 04:12 | <Timon> | the -dev list that is |
| 04:12 | <inman> | Gulliver: that's right. |
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| 04:13 | <Gulliver> | damn. wanted to try cvs (c; |
| 04:13 | <inman> | Timon: can you run nm on it and see lots of symbols? |
| 04:13 | <Timon> | Yup, lots |
| 04:13 | <faye> | does anyone have IP addresses for www or cvs? |
| 04:13 | <Gulliver> | hmmm... is mythtv.org itself offline, too? |
| 04:13 | <Timon> | I loaded up a new gdb |
| 04:13 | <inman> | watch the output of make and ensure that it's not stripping the binary, or otherwise castrate the binary. |
| 04:13 | <Timon> | inman: its not |
| 04:13 | <inman> | for strip, that is. |
| 04:13 | <inman> | faye: it's dead. disk failure. try again later. |
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| 04:13 | <faye> | oh no! |
| 04:13 | <inman> | Gulliver: no, mythtv.org is okay. |
| 04:14 | <Gulliver> | not here: Unknown machine: www.mythtv.org |
| 04:14 | <faye> | dns is down |
| 04:14 | <Timon> | inman: I think isaac hosts the dns for it :-) |
| 04:14 | <faye> | and both dns on same subnet too, bad juju |
| 04:14 | <Gulliver> | faye: do you know the ip? |
| 04:14 | <faye> | wish I did |
| 04:14 | <inman> | i don't know why he has the refresh that low. |
| 04:14 | <inman> | what do you need from the site? |
| 04:15 | <inman> | and why am i asking? it's now past 4a here. |
| 04:15 | <Gulliver> | the link to list-archive... |
| 04:15 | <faye> | a cvs snapshot |
| 04:15 | <Gulliver> | faye: forget the snapshot. cvs is entirely down |
| 04:15 | <faye> | someone may have checked it out and can tarball it for me though? |
| 04:15 | <faye> | wishful thinking perhaps |
| 04:16 | <Timon> | has anyone recieved mail from the -dev list today? |
| 04:16 | <inman> | Timon: i gotta crash. i think your problem is, in this order: binary (check it twice), gdb (check your use and try a fresh version or package) |
| 04:16 | <Timon> | I'm trying to figure out if my mail server is borked |
| 04:16 | <Timon> | inman: done both |
| 04:16 | <faye> | timon: it sounds like everything has gone belly up |
| 04:16 | <inman> | Timon: last mail from -dev i got was at 11a. |
| 04:16 | <Timon> | inman: same |
| 04:17 | <inman> | Timon: it's probly due to the dns timout. |
| 04:17 | <inman> | er, timoeout. |
| 04:17 | <Timon> | Ok, my wife normally gets 20+ messages per day and has only gotten 3 so I thought something bad on my end |
| 04:17 | <inman> | er, timeout. |
| 04:17 | <Timon> | sweet |
| 04:17 | <inman> | anyway, good night kids. |
| 04:17 | <Timon> | nite inman |
| 04:17 | <Gulliver> | Timon: try to send a message to your self... |
| 04:17 | <Gulliver> | night, inman |
| 04:17 | * inman | dreams of screetching tires. |
| 04:17 | <faye> | backup early, backup often, and use sourceforge :) |
| 04:17 | <Timon> | Gulliver: That doesn't work. I run my own mail server |
| 04:18 | <Gulliver> | Timon: don't you have and old account and gmx or something? send it from there |
| 04:18 | <Timon> | not really |
| 04:18 | <Timon> | I don't have a need to have any of those free accounts |
| 04:21 | <Gulliver> | Timon: I could send you a mail from my mailserver if this helps you?! |
| 04:21 | <Timon> | If you don't mind :-) |
| 04:21 | <Timon> | dan@milkcarton.com |
| 04:23 | <Gulliver> | it's on the way |
| 04:23 | <Timon> | got it |
| 04:23 | <Timon> | thanks |
| 04:24 | <Timon> | the crash Isaac had today has only brought home the fact that I need to backup |
| 04:24 | <Gulliver> | np |
| 04:24 | <Timon> | I think my last mail backup is from like 1.5 months ago |
| 04:24 | <Timon> | mind you my last back up is also my first and only backup :-) |
| 04:26 | <Gulliver> | Timon: yeah, I should also do a backup some more frequently (c; |
| 04:26 | <Timon> | you run your own mail server? |
| 04:27 | <Gulliver> | Timon: yes |
| 04:35 | <Gulliver> | does someone know how to enable deinterlace in xine for default? (currently I have to press I to activate it) |
| 04:36 | <faye> | please, does anyone have a recent checkout of the cvs that they could tarball for me? |
| 04:37 | <Gulliver> | if someone could do a tarball I would pleased, too (c: |
| 04:37 | <faye> | I'll even donate webspace |
| 04:38 | <faye> | you can put a link to it from the irc channel |
| 04:38 | <Gulliver> | could do the same (c: - located in germany and very fast... |
| 04:39 | <faye> | I don't think anyone's biting |
| 04:40 | <Gulliver> | faye: looks li ke we have to stay with 0.8 for a while /c: |
| 04:41 | <faye> | but I have a WinTV PVR250, .8 is no good to me :(( |
| 04:42 | <Gulliver> | faye: cool - have had it working already? - I'm thinking of buying one. |
| 04:43 | <faye> | I can cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg and it works |
| 04:43 | <Gulliver> | cool |
| 04:43 | <faye> | but that's not elegant :) |
| 04:43 | <Gulliver> | how is the picture-quality? |
| 04:43 | <faye> | excellent, apart from an interlace issue, but that's what the deinterlace stuff is for |
| 04:44 | <faye> | I think it's doing the frames in BA order rather than AB |
| 04:45 | <Gulliver> | faye: pretty cool (c: - the duron 800 working in my mythtv-machine is fast enough to do a 640x480 recording with 8audio, but then I can't watch timeshifted-tv at the same time without having frame-drops... |
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| 04:45 | <faye> | this records at 720x576 (or 480 if you're in an NTSC country) and variants thereof |
| 04:45 | <Gulliver> | kopete crashed. |
| 04:46 | <faye> | heh, I like kopete, but it's a little unstable |
| 04:46 | <Gulliver> | nice (c: - faye: yeah, also the 0.6.2 release as many issues with the irc-module |
| 04:46 | <faye> | I'm using the CVS version at work |
| 04:48 | <faye> | it also records mpeg layer 2 audio at 48khz so it's practically ready to burn |
| 04:48 | <faye> | (um not kopete, the 250) |
| 04:50 | <Gulliver> | that's pretty cool (c: - but it's only stereo, right? |
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| 04:55 | <bigguy> | http://members.iinet.net.au/~davisk/lancer/lancer.htm |
| 04:56 | <faye> | it is only stereo, yes |
| 04:58 | <faye> | bigguy: I do quite like the lancer Evo on the rally circuits, but I've not driven one outside of GT3 |
| 04:59 | <faye> | $20000 is cheap though |
| 04:59 | <faye> | costs more than 2x that in the uk |
| 05:05 | <faye> | hmm, that's a way different lancer |
| 05:14 | <Gulliver> | has someone working mythtv with a remote which has combined navigation (left,right, ...) and video (play, stop, ...) keys? |
| 05:17 | <faye> | nope, but I do have a friend with a couple of days old version of the cvs |
| 05:19 | <Gulliver> | faye: does he tar it up for you? (and probaly me? *g* ) |
| 05:19 | <faye> | he's going to tar it for me |
| 05:19 | <faye> | then I'll make it available for download |
| 05:19 | <Gulliver> | cool. thanks in advice (c: |
| 05:19 | <faye> | and the author can get a recent copy :) |
| 05:24 | <faye> | he's just copying and cleaning the directory tree |
| 05:30 | <faye> | http://dude.noc.clara.net/~faye/mythtv.tar.bz2 |
| 05:30 | <Gulliver> | thanks a lot :D |
| 05:31 | <faye> | it's got all the addons too I think |
| 05:31 | <Gulliver> | cool (c: |
| 05:35 | <Gulliver> | MC compiles (c: |
| 05:36 | <faye> | I wish I had broadband |
| 05:41 | <Gulliver> | I have (c: |
| 05:41 | <faye> | it's compiling now |
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| 06:44 | <faye> | can anyone help with setting up mythtv to work ivtv? |
| 06:45 | <faye> | Mythtv says V4l MJPEG card, but no inputs found |
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| 08:35 | <faye> | fixed |
| 08:38 | <faye> | now it's up and running, watching live tv, but then crashes (ring buffer goes crazy) when pressing up arrow during play |
| 08:38 | <faye> | I think this is the can't end stream, and start a new one without reloading ivtv problem |
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| 09:04 | <bline> | g'mornin |
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| 09:13 | <Chutt> | howdy |
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| 09:50 | <Universe> | website down for the count.. |
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| 10:26 | <faye> | hi |
| 10:26 | <faye> | is anyone using mythtv with ivtv? |
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| 11:04 | <Chutt> | there |
| 11:04 | <Chutt> | dns is back |
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| 11:11 | <Universe> | good |
| 11:11 | <Universe> | Chutt... Do you think a Celeron 366 would be good enough for the frontend only? |
| 11:12 | <Chutt> | not for full sized video playback, no |
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| 11:12 | <PeteCool> | Universe: Celeron 500 is enough |
| 11:13 | <Universe> | Thanks.. |
| 11:13 | <PeteCool> | Universe: but I record at 320x480 |
| 11:14 | <PeteCool> | Universe: it might not be enough if you use something bigger |
| 11:18 | <Universe> | Do you know what resolution Tivo records at? |
| 11:19 | <Universe> | nm.. found it I think.. |
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| 13:09 | <faye> | hi, can anyone tell me what the new cvs root is? |
| 13:10 | <TheAsp> | :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs |
| 13:12 | <faye> | thank you very much |
| 13:18 | <faye> | I've followed the instructions in HOWTO-19 for PVR250, I get a capture when I do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg, but nothing in mythtv. I managed to get a picture up once, but I can't repeat the magic |
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| 13:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:49 | <Chutt> | everyone's using my bandwidth grabbing cvs |
| 13:49 | <inman> | not me. :-/ |
| 13:50 | * inman | yawns. |
| 13:50 | <Ripp> | heh I had to pick this wkend to try and upg. to cvs...sorry man! |
| 13:51 | <inman> | the goiter is the last line of defense. |
| 13:51 | <inman> | oops, w/w. |
| 14:21 | <Ripp> | are there any problems w/ xmltv 0.5.10 & myth (going to update it) |
| 14:24 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: what's on your long-term todo list atm? I'm wondering what could be added to myth now, it seems mostly complete to me |
| 14:29 | <faye> | oh WOW |
| 14:30 | <faye> | sorry, it's the first time I've seen mythtv working |
| 14:30 | <faye> | it's been a struggle with the pvr250 and uk listings |
| 14:30 | <faye> | but worth every minute |
| 14:30 | <faye> | Congrats! |
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| 14:46 | <Chutt> | petecool, my big todo list is actually quite small |
| 14:46 | <Chutt> | get mythmusic able to do streams, make it backend aware |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | improve the UI more |
| 14:48 | <bigguy> | ugh I hate that. People need to atleast have a plaintext part I hate pure html email |
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| 14:52 | <Chutt> | may spend some time doing a better dvd frontend |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | if i get really bored, since i don't really need one |
| 14:54 | <bigguy> | that would be nice |
| 15:22 | <Ober> | did mythtv change cvs dir ? |
| 15:22 | <moegreen> | :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs |
| 15:22 | <moegreen> | it's 'mythtv' instead of 'MC' now, too |
| 15:25 | <Ober> | ahh |
| 15:25 | <Ober> | what is the new module name? |
| 15:25 | <moegreen> | mythtv |
| 15:25 | <Ober> | thanks |
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| 15:34 | <Ober> | slowest cvs server in the south :D |
| 15:35 | <moegreen> | heh |
| 15:36 | <bigguy> | hmm I always thought chutt was an ohio man |
| 15:36 | <bigguy> | ohio's not exactly "the south" |
| 15:36 | <Ober> | s/south/north/g |
| 15:36 | <bigguy> | heh |
| 15:37 | <Ober> | well you all are south of me |
| 15:37 | <bigguy> | no we aren't |
| 15:37 | <bigguy> | we are west or east of you depending on which way your head is turned ;) |
| 15:38 | <Ober> | still south of my latitude |
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| 16:31 | <mdz_> | Chutt: are all the logs gone from CVS? |
| 16:31 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 16:31 | <Chutt> | i got 3/4 of the MC dir |
| 16:31 | <Chutt> | and everything up until mid-march for everything else |
| 16:32 | <mdz_> | ah |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | you see the email on the list about the new cvsroot? |
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| 16:41 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 16:44 | <Chutt> | i wasn't sure how well cvs dealt with having lower revision numbers (but newer files) on the cvs server and higher revisions on the local checkouts |
| 16:44 | <Chutt> | figured it was best to just force everyone to recheckout with a new path |
| 16:45 | <mdz_> | you could cvs commit -r2.0 everything |
| 16:45 | <mdz_> | I had actually just munged my working directory and was trying to update |
| 16:45 | <mdz_> | I suppose it'll fail |
| 16:47 | <mdz_> | actually it seems to be doing ok |
| 16:47 | <Chutt> | hadn't even thought of just setting the revision # on the server |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | i got to change the path name, anyway =) |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | been wanting to make it mythtv instead of MC for awhile |
| 16:48 | <inman> | i'm glad you did. |
| 16:48 | <mdz_> | if it completes and diffs ok, should I post the one-liners to the mailing list? |
| 16:48 | <mdz_> | might save you some bandwidth if fewer people checkout the whole tree again |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | doesn't really matter to me |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | might help some people, if you want |
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| 17:15 | <Chutt> | thor, hi |
| 17:15 | <thor> | Hey |
| 17:15 | <Timon> | hey thor, ltns |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | welcome back |
| 17:15 | <thor> | thanks |
| 17:15 | <thor> | was away a little longer than expected |
| 17:16 | <inman> | howdy thor |
| 17:16 | <thor> | saw the home page update |
| 17:16 | <thor> | we have a release pending? |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | what was your cvs account name? |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | just 'thor'? |
| 17:16 | <thor> | yup |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | kinda sorta |
| 17:17 | <thor> | did cvs change? |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | no hard deadline |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | just 'near future' |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:17 | <thor> | hopefully I get that mythmusic GUI stuff done in time |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | lost the harddrive friday night |
| 17:17 | <thor> | oh |
| 17:17 | <thor> | do we have a password protocol? |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | didn't have an exactly recent backup =) |
| 17:17 | <thor> | and no mirrors |
| 17:18 | <Timon> | Chutt: What failed on it? Spindle stopped spinning? Head crash? |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | head crash |
| 17:18 | <Timon> | ouch |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | clicking noises |
| 17:19 | <Chutt> | retrieved a bit of data |
| 17:19 | <Chutt> | but all in all, just lost some history data |
| 17:19 | <Timon> | I need to backup my stuff come to think of it |
| 17:19 | <Chutt> | thor, there's info on the list about the new cvsroot |
| 17:20 | <thor> | ok |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | and mdz just sent a mail with a couple one-liners to modify an existing checkout to work with the new one |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | but, i'd keep a backup of your working dir just in case =) |
| 17:20 | <mdz_> | it almost works |
| 17:21 | <mdz_> | one file was broken in my working directory |
| 17:21 | <mdz_> | cvs [server aborted]: could not find desired version 1.51 in /var/lib/mythcvs/mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/viewscheduled.cpp,v |
| 17:21 | <Chutt> | think i should just mass update the version? |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | but, if you have a modified version |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | it won't be able to checkout the original to see what changed |
| 17:23 | <Chutt> | etc |
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| 17:36 | <inman> | i think you should proceed with the rename. |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | oh, i wasn't going to change it back |
| 17:37 | <inman> | yeah, i mean ignore the version issue. |
| 17:38 | <inman> | proceed with the rename alone. |
| 17:44 | <moegreen> | Chutt: is the video-ui.xml file in cvs, or should I add it again? |
| 17:45 | <cbetan> | How to know which chipset is a WinTV card model using? I just bought a WinTV card thinking it had a bt878 chipset, however it had a Conexant CX21881 - for which there's no good driver yet. Any pointers? |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | moegreen, i just checked it in |
| 17:46 | <moegreen> | ok |
| 17:46 | <moegreen> | are all the other ui changes in there? |
| 17:46 | <moegreen> | (for mythvideo) |
| 17:47 | <thor> | hey, moegreen ... did you do anything complicated to the UI stuff during the last two weeks (I've been away) |
| 17:48 | <moegreen> | thor: I added a few new classes to handle the EPG, and slightly changed a few others (mainly just initialization stuff) |
| 17:48 | <thor> | ok ... I put some changes in before I left, hope they didn't cause any problems |
| 17:49 | <thor> | I am still planning on adding virtual methods to base UI classes to do things like takeFocus(), and then have default implementation do absolutely nothing. Any problems with that? |
| 17:50 | <moegreen> | thor: heh, no, it took me a while to merge them because I had a function missing from my copy and paste :) |
| 17:50 | <moegreen> | thor: no |
| 17:50 | <thor> | cool |
| 17:50 | <thor> | won't happen for a day or two ... I need to get caught up |
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| 18:55 | <PeteCool> | Chutt, moegreen: I've been seeing this for a while: http://petecool.dyndns.org:8081/delete-shading.png |
| 18:55 | <PeteCool> | it happens only when I come back from watching a recording - deleting from the playbackbox (with 'd') produces normal shading |
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| 19:40 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: how could I help fix that? I don't think a bt will help much... maybe some cout's at specific spots? |
| 19:42 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: is it leaving some shadow up there? or is it not drawing the entire shadow? |
| 19:46 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: it's not painting the entire shadow |
| 19:47 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: a while back it happened too, it seemed pretty easy to fix (<3 mins) |
| 19:47 | <PeteCool> | it wasn't drawing the topmost part of the shadow at that time |
| 19:49 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: that's with the png shadowing, btw |
| 19:50 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: does it work the other way? (non-png shadowing) |
| 19:50 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: haven't tried yet... hold on |
| 19:51 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: it's the same |
| 19:55 | * TheAsp | upgrades pete's eyes |
| 19:57 | <PeteCool> | TheAsp: I'm not talking about the looks but about the unshadowed areas |
| 19:57 | <PeteCool> | TheAsp: the looks difference isn't so big on my small tv anyway :) |
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| 20:15 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: the full shadowing shows for a brief moment though... but only before anything else but the background is drawn |
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| 20:16 | <poptix> | hmm |
| 20:17 | <poptix> | i wonder if i could somehow mux two S-VIDEO inputs |
| 20:17 | <poptix> | i can get mythtv to use a dxr3 for output |
| 20:17 | <poptix> | it's just a matter of writing the mpeg2 audio/video to a device in /dev |
| 20:18 | <poptix> | hrm. |
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| 20:35 | <aleitner> | is there a certain reason why there is no debian package for the video plugin? |
| 20:35 | <aleitner> | or did just nobody provide one yet (; |
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| 20:36 | <Tack> | What's the correct CVSROOT for mythtv lately? |
| 20:40 | <poptix> | Tack: search the fucking archives |
| 20:40 | <moegreen> | :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org:/var/lib/mythcvs |
| 20:40 | <poptix> | christ. |
| 20:40 | <moegreen> | module name is now: mythtv |
| 20:40 | * poptix | runs off screaming |
| 20:40 | <moegreen> | heh |
| 20:40 | <Tack> | I actually did search them before I asked, but stupidly searched the wrong mail folder. |
| 20:41 | <Tack> | So, yes, it's my bad. But goddamn poptix can you be any more of an asshole? |
| 20:41 | <Tack> | moegreen: Thanks. |
| 20:43 | <rkulagow> | chutt: please sync CVS docs to website. |
| 20:45 | <poptix> | Tack: yes, i could be |
| 20:45 | <poptix> | moegreen, rkulagow: do either of you know the status of Xv support on a dreamcast? |
| 20:45 | <rkulagow> | poptix: no idea. |
| 20:46 | <poptix> | trying to find a low end system around here for putting in the livingroom |
| 20:47 | <poptix> | i know it's fast enough to play the video |
| 20:47 | <poptix> | just not sure if it can manage Xv output |
| 20:48 | <poptix> | hmm |
| 20:48 | <poptix> | this dreamcast linux distro includes xmame.x11 |
| 20:49 | <poptix> | which seems to require Xv |
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| 20:57 | <yebyen> | man |
| 20:58 | <yebyen> | is the cvs server among the living? |
| 21:00 | <WizFactor> | read your scrollback ... about 15-20 lines up |
| 21:01 | <Tack> | yebyen: You better run for cover. If poptix finds you he'll slit your throat! |
| 21:01 | <yebyen> | oops :) |
| 21:01 | <poptix> | i would if I could. |
| 21:02 | <yebyen> | new module name, too. |
| 21:02 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 21:05 | <yebyen> | but forgive me... I'm going on 2 hours of sleep (10am-noon) since 9am yesterday |
| 21:05 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 21:05 | <yebyen> | damned lan party |
| 21:06 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i noticed that bit about your todo list for 0.9 being rather short... if you like, I could give you some suggestions for 1.0 :) |
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| 21:18 | <poptix> | hrm. |
| 21:28 | * poptix | cross compiles qt for SH4 |
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| 21:42 | <rkulagow> | holy smokes! i just realized that i'm 12ms ping time from a mandrake mirror. sweet. |
| 21:43 | * rcaskey | installed mandrake but is back to debian |
| 21:43 | <rcaskey> | I might try it again when I get the chance to burn the whole set |
| 21:43 | <rcaskey> | but the first cd install seemed to be unusable |
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| 21:59 | <orangey> | hey guys! HOw do I diff something with cvs? |
| 21:59 | <orangey> | cvs -diff -u <filename> >> diff.diff? |
| 22:00 | <orangey> | OK, skip the first "-" |
| 22:00 | <orangey> | The next question being, how do I patch something with a diff (apply the diff)? |
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| 22:04 | <bline> | orangey: patch < foo.diff |
| 22:04 | <bline> | orangey: man patcch |
| 22:05 | <bline> | err patch |
| 22:05 | <bline> | btw, I usually use cvs diff -c filename > foo.patch |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | i'll only look at stuff that's -u |
| 22:06 | <bline> | heh, ok |
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| 22:06 | <Chutt> | just easier to read |
| 22:06 | <bline> | -c looks nice |
| 22:06 | <bline> | I perfer context diffs |
| 22:07 | <bline> | off to work |
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| 22:08 | <rcaskey> | hey Chutt, is it possible to use ioslaves with mythmusic by any chance? |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | it only does files right now |
| 22:09 | <rcaskey> | It seems like mythmusic might could play nice with juke to get some additional features for a little work |
| 22:09 | * yebyen | updates to current cvs |
| 22:09 | <yebyen> | mmm |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | send in a patch |
| 22:09 | <yebyen> | so, how close IS 0.9 really :) |
| 22:09 | <rcaskey> | hehe, 1 week of finals left, then we will see what I am up too :) |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | yebyen, i dunno |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | i'd like to give thor enough time to finish the music ui remake |
| 22:10 | <yebyen> | that's a good enough answer for me, heh... means it's not "I'm releasing it tomorrow" |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | which'll also leave enough time to work out a bug or two |
| 22:11 | <rcaskey> | I'm itching to see how mythmusic handles my 60 gig collection |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | oh, and i want to get the settings stuff fixed up a little |
| 22:11 | <rcaskey> | but it's only available via the sftp slave right now |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | poorly, if it's mp3 |
| 22:12 | <rcaskey> | yeah it is |
| 22:12 | <rcaskey> | why poorly? |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | until someone bothers to send in a patch that makes it not parse the entire file to get the song length |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | no one has yet, so.. |
| 22:12 | <rcaskey> | oh |
| 22:13 | <jrh> | i have a 30gig collection, first run takes a night, but after that its fast. |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | it's fairly easy |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: yeah, I know net-ryhthmbox had to hack an existing library |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | and it still reads like 50-100k on teh song |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | look for a xing header to determine if it's vbr, use that to calculate the length |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | it too me like 30 hours to index that collection |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | else assume it's cbr and just divide the filesize - taglength by the bitrate |
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| 22:15 | <Chutt> | i'm just lazy and don't care about mp3s, so i never bothered to do it |
| 22:16 | <rcaskey> | more visualizations would be cool, but it seems wasteful to use a custom form of visualization when noatun has all those nice ones laying around |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | noatun's crap |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | i looked at it when i was looking for an engine to base mythmusic off of |
| 22:17 | <rcaskey> | Arts in general needs to die |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | pretty much =) |
| 22:17 | <rcaskey> | all hail gstreamer |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | gstreamer also leaves a bad taste in my mouth |
| 22:17 | <rcaskey> | I think its just immature |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | don't like the architecture |
| 22:18 | <rcaskey> | its sure does promise nice things |
| 22:19 | <Chutt> | i was all happy when i found mq3, since it's based roughly off of the freeamp with all the annoying, broken bits of freeamp fixed |
| 22:20 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 22:21 | <Chutt> | i forgot how i massaged some of the doc output |
| 22:21 | <Chutt> | oh well, i'll update em tomorrow |
| 22:23 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: have you looked at finglonger any? |
| 22:23 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 22:23 | <rcaskey> | general framework for remote input that will be included in 3.2 |
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| 22:55 | <bline> | hola |
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| 23:10 | <bline> | cable companies trying to get laws past to ban pvr's such as TiVo http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/04/28/BU269543.DTL |
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| 23:12 | <rcaskey> | yeah, they really don't have a hope of doing squat about normal telivision, but they might yet succeed in HDTV |
| 23:14 | <Timon> | The only reason HDTV may succeed is because of gub'ment regulation requiring it |
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| 23:27 | <Ripp> | hdtv *was* a good idea 'til the drm-types got a hold of it |
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| 23:52 | <orangey> | hmmm. anybody else see anything like this: |
| 23:52 | <orangey> | X Error: BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter) 167 |
| 23:52 | <orangey> | Major opcode: 141 |
| 23:52 | <orangey> | Minor opcode: 19 |
| 23:52 | <orangey> | Resource id: 0x3e00010 |
| 23:54 | <orangey> | hehehe. how embarassing. |
| 23:54 | <orangey> | I was trying to run myth from an ssh into another system (my main server) |
