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00:00<Chutt>captain_murdoch, i think the write the seektable to the db while it's recording stuff will cause the 'watching current recording in progress drops to menu' email
00:01<Captain_Murdoch>will cause? because it slows it down too much or what?
00:01<Chutt>because it's setting the totalFrames stuff
00:01<Chutt>so it won't seek past where the recorder was when it started
00:02<Chutt>or play back past then, for that matter
00:02<Captain_Murdoch>ok, gotcha. so should totalFrames not be set if loaded from the DB?
00:03<Chutt>well, no, it still needs to be
00:04<Chutt>especially for mpeg recordings
00:04<Chutt>it just needs to know that it's in an in progress recording and try to update that (and the seektable) occasionally
00:06<Captain_Murdoch>hmm. how did it work before for non-mpeg? totalframes wasn't set? what if I check for livetv or watchingrecording in nuppeldecoder and if either is set then don't set totalFrames. that leaves the previous functionality intact for non-mpeg right?
00:07<Chutt>it wasn't set
00:07<Captain_Murdoch>could do same for mpeg right?
00:08<Chutt>i should check it out more
00:08<Chutt>but i think that's the issue
00:08<Captain_Murdoch>looks like it has the same vars in avformatdecoder.cpp
00:12<Chutt>i dunno
00:12<Chutt>the guy could be running an old version
00:12<Chutt>or whatnot
00:16<Captain_Murdoch>I think they should remain unset if it's watchingrecording or livetv
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00:27<Captain_Murdoch>should MasterBackendOverride default to true?
00:28<Captain_Murdoch>I would think the default should be false and let the user enable.
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01:22* Captain_Murdochfinally realizes he has to restart the master backend to get it to recognize newly added slaves
01:33<Captain_Murdoch>anyone with a pvr-250 around?
01:33<bline>I do
01:34<Captain_Murdoch>did you have to do anything to set the tuner type? I have mine installed but all I'm getting is static and I'm not sure if it's my cable or if I need an option when I load the tuner module.
01:35<bline>one sec, I'll have a look
01:36<bline>I have options tuner type=2
01:36<Captain_Murdoch>actually may be my splitter. just ran the cable over to anther machine with a bt848 and it's crappy signal as well.
01:36<bline>and I modprobe the tuner on boot
01:36<Captain_Murdoch>I tried tuner = 2, have that now. I'm gonna try a different cable/splitter.
01:37<moegreen>ok, weather map should be downloading again
01:50<Captain_Murdoch>cool, got it working. reloaded all the modules and forced tuner type=2. using only 25% cpu on the machine doing both backend and frontend. I
01:51<Captain_Murdoch>that's with a reduced bitrate and resolution. need to tweak those some and see what this measely celeron 466 can handle.
01:52<bline>shame there is not support for multiple capture cards or I would still be using my WinTV Go with it
01:52<Captain_Murdoch>huh? Isaac runs both a wintv and a pvr-250 in the same machine I believe.
01:53<Captain_Murdoch>and rkulagow has 2 pvr-250's in a machine i think.
01:55<bline>It didn't work for me and I saw a post on the mailing list about profiles not supports for different types of card so I just assumed..
01:56<Chutt>it's fine if you want to record at the same resolution for both cards
01:56<Captain_Murdoch>profiles aren't working yet, but you can run multiple cards. rkulagow even posted a patch he made to allow him to use one profiel on the 250 cards and one on the rest.
01:56<bline>Then maybe my couple of tests were flawed
01:57<Captain_Murdoch>he hard-coded support for an extra profile to use high-res on the 250 boards
02:07<Captain_Murdoch>the tuner in this 250 is so much better than the old bt848 I have in my other machine. the higher channels get kinda noisy being on the same line as my cablemodem when watching with the 848, but on the 250 they're show up crystal clear.
02:08<Captain_Murdoch>have to bring my 878 in here and see if that's as good.
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02:53<Morph>hmm. does live-tv in the latest CVS have issues?
02:54<Chutt>i haven't used it since yesterday or so
02:54<Chutt>what sort of issues?
02:55<Morph>select live tv and it just sits. load on the box is nil so its not working at all.
02:57<Chutt>*might* be something soundcard related
02:57<Chutt>usually is when that happens
02:57<Chutt>but i dunno
02:58<Morph>hmm not the ivtv driver, mplayer popped up.
02:59<Morph>sound, huh?
02:59* Morphinvestigates
02:59<Chutt>in mythtv's setup, what do you have the sound device of the capture card set to?
02:59<Chutt>it's not using it, obviously
03:01<Morph>the output device?
03:02<Chutt>setup/setup, step 2
03:02<Chutt>the backend setup program
03:02<Chutt>could be somethin else, i dunno
03:02<Chutt>it's 3 am, i should be sleepin =)
03:04<Chutt>anyway, try setting that to (none)
03:04<Chutt>or whatnot
03:04<Chutt>if it's not already
03:04<Morph>will do. thanks.
03:04<Chutt>otherwise, easiest thing to do is recompile for debugging
03:04<Chutt>get it to hang like that while running in gdb, hit ctl c, and see what the hell it thinks its doing
03:04<Chutt>it's gettin confused =)
03:06<Chutt>anyway, 'nite.
03:06<Morph>later. :)
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12:02<rkulagow_>moegreen: are you here?
12:42<moegreen>rkulagow_: yeah
12:43<bigguy>only 40 minutes late ;)
12:43<bline>hey bigguy
12:43<bigguy>lo bline
12:43<moegreen>heh, I've got no timestamps here :)
12:44<bline>yay, my code to add control support to ivtv is workin
12:45<bigguy>bline: I wish I had a pvr250 to play with
12:46<rkulagow_>moegreen: i had a weather type "116"->"Heavy T-Storms" for zip 28371 come up unknown for Friday.
12:46<moegreen>ok, thanks - I'll add that in a bit
12:46<bline>I can't even see the fruits of my labor, I'm at the office
12:47<bline>but all the ioctls for brightness and stuff are working now
12:48<bline>a shame there is no "sharpness" :(
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13:04<Morph>hmm livetv is hanging, nothing crashing in gdb...
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16:38<bline>hey hey
16:39<Morph>hrm. still no luck on this lack of live tv..
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16:51<bline>I'd help but my brain quit functioning about an hour ago
16:52* Morphgrabs the jumper cables
16:52<bigguy>bline: so when should we remove life support?
16:53<bline>soon, I'm going to take a nap
17:02<Morph>wow. recording isnt working either.
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18:28<Ripp>changing inputs watching live tv only works on the same card right?
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18:58<tstm>Any MythTV DVB users here?
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21:58<tim_>think a 750mhz will do fine?
22:19<Ripp>for just 1 card, probably. it'd be pushing it pretty hard I think.
22:20<tim_>I plan on getting a epia-m and a pvr card
22:28<tim_>Ripp: don't want to have to run a loud system
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22:30<tim_>school has our cable butchered
22:30<tim_>moved a few channels around
22:40<tim_>I've used freevo for playing movies and such
22:46<Ripp>pvr card will definitely help
22:49<rcaskey__>I think Im going to spend my morrow hacking at morphix to try to get a myth disk working
22:52<tim_>well I'm just going for an all around media pc
22:52<tim_>thats quite and can fit on my bookshelf
22:54<tim_>odd mandrake isn't putting anything in the doc folders
22:57<Ripp>any dev types alive?
22:58<Ripp>well, anyhow, (/m me the answer in case I miss it) could any program link to libmythtv and use it to say pop up it's own OSD?
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23:08<thor_>Ripp, libmythtv is "just" a C++ shared library
23:08<thor_>as is libmyth
23:13<Ripp>right but if I wrote an app and linked libmyth/tv into it, would the functions therein work, specifically the OSD stuff? got a couple ideas but if not then there's not much point
23:15<thor_>well .. depends what you mean by "work" .... if you want to alter the OSD, you can write a theme, if you want something to pop info of some sort on top of video, you may want a standalone X application that is largely transparent
23:16<Ripp>thor_: the 2nd part of what you said... :) a separate app that calls up the osd functions for stuff so it at least looks and acts the same
23:17<Ripp>I'm thinking little crud like caller-id, email notification, low disk space, whatnot
23:17<thor_>1 sec
23:20<thor_>you could write a standalone app and/or code in the mythfrontend event loop that is largely based on the OSD
23:20<thor_>it's a lot of wrok though, as everything is now themeable
23:21<thor_>every container/widget must know how to draw itself based on runtime loading of data
23:21<Ripp>hm guess I'll have to look at the code more... kinda hard since nobody believes in comments! :)
23:21<thor_>mythweather is the most compact thing to look at
23:23<Ripp>ah I see your point about the theme stuff... my app would have to know how to read & draw the theme-able stuff...hrm
23:23<thor_>more and more of that is being done for you (have a look at MythThemedDialog in dialog.cpp in libmyth)
23:24<thor_>but it's still a lot of work
23:24<Ripp>thx... I'll have to look at it harder...
23:25<thor_>you'll even find comments in there =)