| 00:28 | <mdz_> | Chutt: without that binding in the program finder, it's unusable without an 'i' key |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | Chutt: how about if it only did that for space/enter? |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | that'd be fine |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | go for it |
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| 02:15 | <Chutt> | "Also, is it possible to make mythTV a complete X windowing system so that in effect it would be a replacement for the likes of Gnome of KDE?" |
| 02:32 | <bline> | heh |
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| 03:36 | <Timon> | haha |
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| 15:22 | <some_guy> | hello everyone, I have a question |
| 15:22 | <some_guy> | I am runnin debian stable, just installed, and grabbed the sources as stated on the mythtv site |
| 15:23 | <some_guy> | after running the cronjob as instructed I am now getting the errors "couldn't open db" |
| 15:23 | <some_guy> | and "Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy" |
| 15:23 | <some_guy> | any ideas? |
| 15:23 | <some_guy> | or anyone active in channel? |
| 15:31 | <some_guy> | oh no |
| 15:38 | <mdz_> | is mysql running? |
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| 15:38 | <some_guy> | DOH! |
| 15:39 | <some_guy> | ok that was stupid, sorry :) |
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| 15:40 | <some_guy> | ok yes it is, but still the same error |
| 15:41 | <some_guy> | during the cronjob update there were some errors about duplicate entries... is this normal also? |
| 15:42 | <mdz_> | depends on what the exact error was |
| 15:42 | <mdz_> | did you read the instructions? |
| 15:43 | <some_guy> | I think so |
| 15:43 | <some_guy> | at least I thought so |
| 15:43 | <some_guy> | the error is duplicate entry into "'1023-20030602230000' for key 1" |
| 15:43 | <mdz_> | /usr/share/doc/mythtv/README.Debian? |
| 15:44 | <some_guy> | yeah, already added, same error |
| 15:45 | <mdz_> | 99% of the time this means that mythtv can't read the file which contains the password for the database |
| 15:45 | <mdz_> | which is /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| 15:46 | <some_guy> | user mythtv appears to own the file |
| 15:46 | <some_guy> | with rw permissions |
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| 15:47 | <mdz_> | and you are starting it as the mythtv user? |
| 15:47 | <mdz_> | (like the README says) |
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| 16:21 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey |
| 16:21 | <mdz_> | hi |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | the 'default input' combo box in setup section 2 doesn't seem to probe until you change the video device |
| 16:22 | <mdz_> | that could be; I haven't set up a new card in a long time |
| 16:25 | <mdz_> | ok, I added a call |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 16:25 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 16:26 | <mdz_> | strange nobody noticed before |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | well |
| 16:26 | <mdz_> | I guess everybody twiddles the video device setting to see what it does |
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| 16:26 | <Chutt> | that's the reason for at least one of the bugreports from yesterday |
| 16:26 | <Chutt> | and i think someone mentioned it a little earlier |
| 16:26 | <mdz_> | ah, somebody with an empty tunercardinput? |
| 16:27 | <some_guy> | is it normal to have a "QSettings: error creating / .qt" error when trying to start the mythtv backend? |
| 16:27 | <mdz_> | some_guy: yes |
| 16:27 | <mdz_> | at least for the Qt in woody |
| 16:27 | <some_guy> | yep |
| 16:27 | <some_guy> | it seems the backend does not stay up |
| 16:27 | <mdz_> | read the log file to find out why |
| 16:28 | <some_guy> | everytime I try /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart it tells me it was not already running |
| 16:28 | <some_guy> | which log? |
| 16:29 | <some_guy> | ah got it |
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| 16:31 | <some_guy> | ok it seems to think that my video card is not attached to any inputs, but when trying to do mythtv-setup inputs I get a setfault |
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| 16:39 | <some_guy> | so xawtv seems to be fine, but I appairenly have no /dev/video0 device, any ideas? |
| 16:40 | <some_guy> | this is an ati all in wonder (the original mach64) |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | aiw cards will not work. |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | there was even some noise on the mythtv mailing list about them today :p |
| 16:43 | <mdz_> | and every other day |
| 16:44 | <mdz_> | I'm curious about the segfault, though |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | probably because it's not responding to v4l very well |
| 16:52 | <some_guy> | all it says for the seg fault is "Couldn't open /dev/video to probe its inputs. |
| 16:52 | <some_guy> | Segmentation fault" |
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| 16:56 | <Chutt> | moegreen, you around? |
| 16:57 | <thor_> | themes? |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | no, i was wondering about mythvideo |
| 16:58 | <thor_> | what is List Videos supposed to do? |
| 16:58 | <thor_> | (moegreen?) |
| 16:58 | <thor_> | (haven't looked at the code yet) |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | not hooked up yet |
| 16:58 | <thor_> | that would make sense |
| 16:58 | <thor_> | I'm just about done Debian upgrade |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:59 | <thor_> | i think |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | you ok with my changes to the keybindings in mythmusic? |
| 17:06 | <mdz_> | oh no, there's another isaac on mythtv-dev now |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | at least one person will be able to spell my name right |
| 17:07 | <mdz_> | whatever you say, izchak |
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| 17:28 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I have a reproducible backend segfault |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | crap, it's inside qt |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | I need to upgrade my ancient qt I guess |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | could still be in my code |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | #0 0x40a06171 in strncpy () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | #1 0x40782c2e in QString::sprintf () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | #2 0x40768ad3 in QTime::toString () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | #3 0x080ea8be in QMapPrivate<QString, QString>::copy () |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | QTime::toString shouldn't segfault |
| 17:30 | <mdz_> | it happens if, in viewscheduled, I bring up the infodialog repeatedly |
| 17:31 | <mdz_> | enter, escape, enter, escape |
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| 17:35 | <Chutt> | anything else interesting in the bt? |
| 17:36 | <mdz_> | nope |
| 17:36 | <mdz_> | in fact, that was it |
| 17:37 | <mdz_> | gdb seems to still get pretty confused with threads sometimes |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:37 | <mdz_> | if it doesn't happen with your backend, it's probably just qt |
| 17:37 | <mdz_> | what do you think about having timeslot recordings match only on the start time, and not on the end time? |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | 'slong as title's still there, sure |
| 17:38 | <mdz_> | since sometimes they'll run a season finale or whatever in the same timeslot and it will run long |
| 17:38 | <mdz_> | happened the other day, and didn't get recorded because it was a timeslot |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:39 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't even be opposed to making the starttime sloppy by a little bit each way, either |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | though, that may not work all that well |
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| 18:03 | <thor_> | Chutt said, "you ok with my changes to the keybindings in mythmusic"? Yup |
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| 20:00 | <billytwowilly> | hey guys, on the update to www.mythtv.org the links in the third bullet point about mythmusic come up with a not found error. |
| 20:01 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 20:01 | <Chutt> | fixed em |
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| 20:07 | <billytwowilly> | good stuff. |
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| 20:35 | <mdz_> | Chutt: Captain_Murdoch was trying out the scheduled recording editor the other day, and it seems to work well enough to go ahead and hook it up |
| 20:35 | <Chutt> | after 0.9 |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | any ideas how to fit it into the UI? |
| 20:35 | <mdz_> | ok |
| 20:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | mdz: I have it so it uses a programinfo::displaywidget now for both infodialog and scheduledrecording. for testing I have it hooked to 'M' right now inside of the conflict screen. 'I' currently brings up the regular infodialog editor. |
| 20:39 | <mdz_> | Captain_Murdoch: I'd like for it to be accessible using only arrows+ok if possible |
| 20:40 | <mdz_> | there are only a few things right now that you can't do with only those keys |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | i was hoping to add an 'info' button more generally |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | for popups, advanced options, etc |
| 20:40 | <Captain_Murdoch> | it uses only arrows right now. up/down go between options and left/right change setting in the combobox. just like setup |
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| 20:41 | <mdz_> | Captain_Murdoch: yes, but I'm talking about how to hook it up permanently |
| 20:41 | <Captain_Murdoch> | oh, ok. gotcha. |
| 20:41 | <mdz_> | I've been meaning to go over all the key bindings |
| 20:42 | <Captain_Murdoch> | would be nice. |
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| 20:42 | <mdz_> | is 'i' bound in live tv/playback currently? |
| 20:43 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, Info screen/osd |
| 20:43 | <mdz_> | if we could condense current 'm' and 'i' into one binding, that would be nice |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | i'd like that |
| 20:43 | <mdz_> | one press, display info in OSD, press again, display EPG, something like that |
| 20:43 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I was thinking use the key to enter edit mode then if you hit I again it goes into advanced edit mode |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | mdz, or pop up a menu to let you select |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | yeah, we could use popups in a few more places I think |
| 20:44 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, popup a menu, then up/down to choose then enter/select |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | for things like edit mode that aren't used frequently |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | and changing input |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | that's why i'm wanting a menu/info key, in addition to select/arrows |
| 20:44 | <mdz_> | I think it's reasonable to have two action keys |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | would be useful for popping up the advanced recording options, etc |
| 20:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, you need at least 2, don't want to have to go through a menu every time I want to popup the osd. |
| 20:45 | <mdz_> | arrows, 0-9, OK, cancel/escape, info should be adaptable to pretty much any remote |
| 20:45 | <mdz_> | most have a 'menu' as well |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | the guy that said he was working on a menu for the OSD never came through with that, did he |
| 20:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | don't remember anything |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | my remote has c, d, e, f oriented around the arrows where most remotes have menu/info/guide/etc. |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | I leave C alone and use it to change inputs |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | and leave D alone for deletion |
| 20:47 | * Captain_Murdoch | goes through with the advanced edit screen and marks all his wife's daily home decorating shows to use the new 320x240 profile |
| 20:47 | <mdz_> | but those two keys would be more logically used for info and menu |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, if you could keep from committing that stuff until after 0.9, i'd 'preciate it |
| 20:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I won't commit it. |
| 20:48 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what's on your bug squashing list? |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | next weekend, hopefully |
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| 20:50 | <Chutt> | some minor mythmusic stuff |
| 20:51 | <Chutt> | i couldn't reproduce that segfault of yours, btw |
| 20:51 | <mdz_> | good, probably just qt then |
| 20:51 | <mdz_> | I think there are still a few cases where the duplicate stuff doesn't work right |
| 20:51 | <mdz_> | I'm staring right now at 3 things in viewscheduled which are all the same episode of the same show |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | one of them is grayed out and suppressed, and the other two are not |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | all of the info is identical |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | what's even weirder is that I see in PrintList that _two_ are marked as duplicates, and _one_ is not |
| 20:52 | <mdz_> | the opposite of what I see on-screen |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | didn't i reply to the guy that was bitching about mythmusic taking long to scan for mp3s over a network? |
| 20:54 | <mdz_> | which one? there have been a lot |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | yesterday |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | there's only been that one, recently |
| 20:55 | <mdz_> | ah, looking at the wrong ones in the printlist output. should put the episode in there |
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| 20:55 | <mdz_> | still, it's not doing the right thing |
| 20:58 | <mdz_> | so all 3 are marked as duplicates in printlist |
| 20:58 | <mdz_> | which is correct |
| 20:59 | <mdz_> | ah, it's the 'recording' flag which is screwing it up |
| 20:59 | <mdz_> | I guess I probably misunderstood exactly what that is supposed to mean |
| 21:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | mdz: I think that may have been causing the guy's problem the other day who was in here saying that he had some shows marked as conflicting when they weren't because the show they conflicted with was suppressed. |
| 21:02 | <mdz_> | Chutt: could you take a look at the logic in ViewScheduled::selected() and the scheduler and tell me if it makes sense? |
| 21:02 | <mdz_> | Captain_Murdoch: possibly |
| 21:03 | <mdz_> | the scheduler sets recording=false when it is a duplicate |
| 21:03 | <mdz_> | somehow that is getting changed, I think by conflict resolution or something |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | it's been too long since i looked at that stuff |
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| 21:27 | <mythtv> | i think mythtranscode is missing an include: |
| 21:27 | <mythtv> | whoops, hold on mythtv == rkulagow. brb. |
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| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | test |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | ok, better. |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | is mythtranscode missing an include? make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mythtv/mythtv-debug/programs/mythtranscode' |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -g -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -DMMX -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I../../libs -I../../libs/libmyth -I../../libs/libmythtv -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -o main.o main.cpp |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | main.cpp: In function `int main(int, char**)': |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | main.cpp:124: no match for `std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& << QDateTime&' operator |
| 21:28 | <rkulagow> | 124: cerr << "Couldn't find recording " << chanid << " " << startts << endl; |
| 21:30 | <rkulagow> | <whole bunch of suggestions from gcc on what should go in there snipped> |
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| 21:36 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | fixed |
| 21:37 | <rkulagow_> | thanks. |
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| 21:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: did you look at Caputo's patch to unsuppress or force suppress by adding 1 field to the record table and 1 to program? it looks pretty straightforward. If you don't mind the adding 2 fields, I'll put it in my tree and add those fields to the advanced edit screen for inclusion after 0.9 is released. probably will try to think of shorter field names though. :) |
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| 21:51 | <emacsen> | I have a question that may seem obvious but... Someone said I could write a mythtv module in any language. Is that so? |
| 21:51 | <Timon> | You must write it in lisp |
| 21:52 | <emacsen> | No Scheme? |
| 21:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | we prefer english, without a lisp |
| 21:52 | <Captain_Murdoch> | :) |
| 21:52 | <PeteCool> | you'd have to use it in a language that can interact with libmyth/libmythtv |
| 21:52 | <Timon> | Effifel (sp?) |
| 21:52 | <emacsen> | PeteCool: there a list? |
| 21:52 | <bline> | python |
| 21:52 | <Timon> | No no no, we must all use AppleSoft BASIC :-) |
| 21:53 | <emacsen> | bline: cool :) |
| 21:53 | <PeteCool> | emacsen: I never looked for that |
| 21:53 | <bline> | anything that can talk to c++, you can be the first to write an interface |
| 21:53 | <emacsen> | PeteCool: oh it can't really be Python? |
| 21:54 | <Captain_Murdoch> | depends on what you want your module to do really. if you want it to look like a regular Myth app, then you need libmyth. if you just want fo fire off a full-screen app then you might not need libmyth. |
| 21:54 | <emacsen> | well I mean like a radio module |
| 21:55 | <Captain_Murdoch> | so you want myth's look & feel then. radio as in pause/record or just play? |
| 21:56 | <emacsen> | record, pause, but play would be nice too :) |
| 21:57 | <PeteCool> | emacsen: radio, like an fm/am tuner, or web-based? |
| 21:57 | <emacsen> | PeteCool: fm tuner |
| 21:57 | <rcaskey> | PeteCool: methinks that this would be a whole lot easier if mythmusic had a gstreamer interface |
| 21:58 | <rcaskey> | well that, and if gstreamer wouldn't crash randomly |
| 21:59 | <Ripp> | I thought the preferred language was FORTRAN77!! Dammit! |
| 22:00 | * Ripp | deletes weeks of work... |
| 22:00 | * rcaskey | grooves on prolog |
| 22:00 | <Chutt> | naw, a radio interface'd be easy |
| 22:01 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: not if he's rewriting it from scratch in python |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | just need to add an audio only recording class to the tv recorder bit |
| 22:01 | <emacsen> | Chutt: speex is my friend |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | why would you use speex? |
| 22:01 | <emacsen> | Chutt: space is my ememy :) |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | low quality mp3 is plenty for radio, and it's already in mythtv |
| 22:01 | <emacsen> | mp3 is evil |
| 22:01 | <emacsen> | Chutt: and bad for speech |
| 22:01 | <rcaskey> | (if myth could hijack gstreamer vizualizations it would be kind coo) |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, gstreamer isn't all that good :p |
| 22:02 | <emacsen> | Chutt: it should ask about audio recording options :) |
| 22:03 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: well find some place to bum more vizualizations from ;) |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | other people can |
| 22:03 | <rcaskey> | yeah |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | the interface to add em is simple |
| 22:03 | <rcaskey> | looking foward to .9 |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | and it could be modified to be true plugins _easily_ |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | since qt does all that stuff pretty transparently |
| 22:04 | <rcaskey> | how stable is cvs these days? |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | it's quite stable |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | mythmusic got a fairly major makeover a couple days ago |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | but thor spent a lot of time on it, and i haven't seen any major issues with it yet |
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| 22:08 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, i still don't see why it needs a field to unsupress a recording since the same thing can be accomplished by just removing the oldrecorded record |
| 22:10 | <rcaskey> | is it still going to go bezerk if my mp3 colletion is remotely mounted and 60 gigs? |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | it still reads the entire file to calculate the song length for mp3s, yes |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | people just complain about that, no one does anything |
| 22:12 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: doesn't matter. Even reading just the first 5 seconds takes days to index the collection via vfs in juke or totem |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | you don't even need to read 5 seconds |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | all you need is the first bit of header data |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | that'll tell you if it's vbr or not |
| 22:12 | <rcaskey> | well gstreamer is retarded |
| 22:13 | <rcaskey> | and thats how it does it |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | if it's vbr, the header gives you enough information to calculate the song length |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | if it's cbr, all you do is use the file size / bitrate |
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| 22:13 | <rcaskey> | its a bug in the workings of gstreamer, not in the implementation of those apps |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | right |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | I think its on the to-do hitlist |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | people should just use oggs |
| 22:14 | <mdz_> | vorbis does great for voice |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 22:14 | <rcaskey> | well its not that, its just that there needs to be a standard format for library exchange |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | mdz, speex is vorbis |
| 22:15 | <rcaskey> | even just reading the first little bit is a pain over dsl on a huge collection |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | well, it's not |
| 22:15 | <mdz_> | it's xiph |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | but it's under the same project umbrella now |
| 22:15 | <mdz_> | but I thought it was a different codec |
| 22:15 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | right |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | same as flac |
| 22:15 | <mdz_> | yep |
| 22:15 | <bigguy> | it would be nice if all the free mp3's I have were released as ogg or flac |
| 22:16 | <bigguy> | I've started moving some of mine over to flac |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:16 | <rcaskey> | My car player's firmware isn't upgradable so mp3 it is for the forseeable future |
| 22:17 | <rcaskey> | btw, nice job on the web-page update |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | today's news update? |
| 22:17 | <rcaskey> | yeah |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | yeah, i finally got un-lazy enough to do that |
| 22:18 | <rcaskey> | is anyone working on lirc config stuff? |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | someone's working on more configurable keybindings |
| 22:19 | <rcaskey> | well, I meant in terms of futzing with the lirc config files |
| 22:19 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 22:19 | <Chutt> | no, not really |
| 22:19 | <Chutt> | if i do move to having a single window for everything, though |
| 22:19 | <Chutt> | it should be more possible to do a native lirc implementation |
| 22:20 | <Chutt> | should be easier to integrate setup in that sorta thing |
| 22:21 | <rcaskey> | yeah, I suppose you would need a library of common remote configs too |
| 22:22 | <rcaskey> | either that or a stupid simple press the button on your remote or press space to leave this unassigned |
| 22:22 | <Chutt> | press button on your remote, assign it to an action |
| 22:22 | <Chutt> | in the ui somehow |
| 22:22 | <rcaskey> | yeah, it took me a while of thinking to figure out which functions I really needed |
| 22:23 | <Chutt> | that's all a mess right now |
| 22:23 | <rcaskey> | especially to get it to work properly with the dvd player and so on |
| 22:23 | <rcaskey> | so I guess in that respect, I would rather myth not move to single windows so I could just use the normal key bindings |
| 22:23 | <rcaskey> | unless someone is working on a MythDVD plugin |
| 22:24 | <rcaskey> | which seems like it would be rather pointless |
| 22:25 | <bigguy> | I can't believe the crap the ca lawyer said about decss |
| 22:25 | <bigguy> | people were ripping dvd's before decss came out |
| 22:26 | <bigguy> | and they'd be doing it even if decss was never written |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, no, it's more to get away from focus problems |
| 22:28 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: how could I jury rig ogle not to suck then? |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | i just use a real dvd player :p |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | since, well, they work, and they're better than all the linux software players |
| 22:29 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: I get better playback off my computer :} |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | Calvin Gorriaran doesn't read very well, does he? |
| 22:53 | <bigguy> | raster doesn't really know that much |
| 22:54 | <bigguy> | spec. talking about c++ |
| 23:04 | <thor_> | at this point, I'm not a very big fan of gcc 3.3 |
| 23:10 | <bline> | calvin is raster? |
| 23:12 | <bigguy> | bline: no |
| 23:12 | <bigguy> | raster of E fame |
| 23:13 | <bline> | Oh, I must have read that wrong then. |
| 23:13 | <bigguy> | <raster> i still just dont like c++<raster> it just does to many things behind the scenes you have no contorl over <raster> its hard top follow the code without tools to do it for you |
| 23:13 | * rcaskey | cries |
| 23:13 | <rcaskey> | I noticed the size of the complete discover-data-udeb is ~76k. The |
| 23:13 | <rcaskey> | old version is ~10k. |
| 23:13 | <rcaskey> | doh wrong buffer |
| 23:13 | <rcaskey> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200306/msg00038.html |
| 23:14 | <mdz_> | doesn't gcc give a warning for stuff like the s/=/==/ stuff that guy posted in his patch? |
| 23:14 | <mdz_> | + pginfo->catType == "movie"; |
| 23:15 | <bigguy> | heh and he quoted alan cox |
| 23:15 | <thor_> | suggest parenthises around truth value as assignment ? |
| 23:15 | * bline | is not a fan of raster |
| 23:16 | <bigguy> | bline: he's ok just confused about alot of things |
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| 23:16 | <bline> | s/confused/ignorant/ |
| 23:16 | <bigguy> | heh |
| 23:17 | <bigguy> | that's why e17 will take eons to see the light |
| 23:18 | <bigguy> | and they only support certain version of auto* etc so if you have something different from them it's automagicly the fault of your dev tools |
| 23:19 | <bigguy> | I mean raster is still using that 2.96 redhat released eons ago |
| 23:19 | <bigguy> | +gcc |
| 23:19 | <rcaskey> | will see? |
| 23:20 | <bigguy> | eh? |
| 23:20 | <rcaskey> | s/will/might |
| 23:21 | <bigguy> | well I think he will eventually release something |
| 23:23 | <mdz_> | thor_: I was thinking 'statement with no side effects' or something |
| 23:23 | <rcaskey> | but hopefully not |
| 23:23 | <mdz_> | 'statement has no effect' |
| 23:24 | <mdz_> | there it is: test.c:3: warning: statement with no effect |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | mdz, i doubt he tested it at all |
| 23:25 | <mdz_> | Chutt: looks that way |
| 23:26 | <mdz_> | just wanted to make sure I was right before talking trash |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:28 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, did the author of that tivo hacking book ever contact you? |
| 23:28 | <rcaskey> | How many people will really buy a book on tivo hacking |
| 23:29 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 23:29 | <Chutt> | seeing it on /. reminded me of it |
| 23:29 | <PeteCool> | rcaskey: I think none is the number of people you're looking for |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | he had emailed me a few months back, saying that he wanted to have a chapter on free alternatives or something |
| 23:30 | <PeteCool> | rcaskey: at least if it's only stuff you can find on websites by yourself |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | i told him i didn't have the skills or time to contribute :p |
| 23:30 | <rcaskey> | how much was he payng? |
| 23:31 | <rkulagow> | chutt: no, no one has contacted me, unless it's been since i last checked email or something. |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | naw, this was months ago |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, no money |
| 23:32 | <rcaskey> | then why would he expect you to cooperate? |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, i just had told him that you might be interested |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, i dunno |
| 23:33 | <mdz_> | Chutt: would it be reasonable to say that the 'recording' flag in programinfo is only used to note which of a set of conflicting programs is selected to be recorded? |
| 23:33 | <mdz_> | I don't know anymore whether a duplicate should have that set or not |
| 23:33 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | well |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | lemme see |
| 23:34 | <mdz_> | the reason I was seeing that weirdness in viewscheduled was because I was only testing duplicate if recording was false |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | I am thinking maybe it should just test duplicate, then recording, then conflicting, in simple order |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | i think the duplicate stuff should set recording to false |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | as well |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | ok, it does |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | then test in that order |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | how does this look: |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - if (!rec->recording) |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - { |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - if (rec->duplicate) |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - handleDuplicate(rec); |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - else |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | - handleNotRecording(rec); |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | + if (rec->duplicate) { |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | + handleDuplicate(rec); |
| 23:35 | <mdz_> | + } else if (!rec->recording) |
| 23:36 | <mdz_> | + handleNotRecording(rec); |
| 23:36 | <mdz_> | } |
| 23:36 | <mdz_> | (after fixing the else to match stylistically, of course) |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | that's fine with me |
| 23:36 | <mdz_> | ok |
| 23:40 | <mdz_> | done |
| 23:40 | <mdz_> | I'd still like to know how a duplicate recording got recording=true |
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| 23:40 | <Chutt> | something in the scheduler probably didn't check for the duplicate flag before setting it to false |
| 23:44 | <mdz_> | nothing ever sets recording=true though |
| 23:45 | <mdz_> | and prunelist sets recording=false for all duplicates |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | it gets set to true in the constructor |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | but i suppose that gets overwritten fast enough |
| 23:47 | <mdz_> | recording=false tells removeconflicts to remove the entry entirely |
| 23:47 | <mdz_> | but that only happens for the list that the scheduler uses for scheduling, not for the one viewscheduled gets, right? |
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| 23:48 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | doautoconflicts is false for the viewscheduled lst |
| 23:48 | <Chutt> | list |
| 23:48 | <mdz_> | yeah, that sounds like duplicates should have that set then |
| 23:48 | <mdz_> | and they should go away |
| 23:49 | <mdz_> | mythbackend --printsched | grep '1 1$' |
| 23:49 | <mdz_> | turns up two things though |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | you should just make that output on the http status server |
| 23:50 | <mdz_> | I set it up so that I could test scheduler changes without replacing my backend |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 23:50 | <Chutt> | that makes sense |
| 23:50 | <mdz_> | it doesn't daemonize or anything; just does the calculations and prints it out |
| 23:50 | <mdz_> | so I can diff it |
| 23:50 | <mdz_> | doesn't start the thread I mean |
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