| 00:00 | <thor> | yup ... ToggleMute() ... oh well, I'm probably doing something bone-headed |
| 00:02 | <thor> | ah yes ... I am doing something bone-headed |
| 00:13 | <thor> | half bone headed ... even if tvplaying if you hit mute and then adjust the volume (before un-muting) it drops to 0. Will fix |
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| 01:53 | <c0ol> | hi |
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| 01:54 | * Kuwanger | has a little problem. |
| 01:55 | <Kuwanger> | mythbackend keeps segfaulting. This seems to result from database errors. |
| 01:55 | <thor> | worst thing that can happen is you'll be ignored |
| 01:55 | * bline | ignores Kuwanger |
| 01:55 | <Kuwanger> | The output is 23 lines long. |
| 01:55 | <thor> | bline!! |
| 01:55 | <Kuwanger> | Should I post in #flood? |
| 01:55 | <bline> | thor! |
| 01:55 | <thor> | Kuwanger, output of what ? |
| 01:55 | <c0ol> | i have a simi on topic question, is there any way to use DirectTV with these PVR solutions |
| 01:56 | <c0ol> | if so, where can i read more about that |
| 01:56 | <Kuwanger> | mythbackend |
| 01:56 | <bline> | c0ol: I'd search the mailing list |
| 01:56 | <c0ol> | but it is possibl |
| 01:56 | <Kuwanger> | The strace is much longer, and I could -g myth to track down the exact line if necessary. |
| 01:56 | <thor> | c0ol, myth can use an IR transmitter (eg, IR Blaster) to do DirectTV, see the mailing list |
| 01:57 | <bline> | Kuwanger: on the site there are instructions for getting a proper stack trace. You should do that and send it to the list. |
| 01:57 | <Kuwanger> | But, maybe this error is already know about? |
| 01:57 | <thor> | Kuwanger, what's the nature of the problem? |
| 01:58 | <Kuwanger> | bline: Except I think the error is a database one. |
| 01:58 | <Kuwanger> | thor: Apparently something about duplicate entries. |
| 01:58 | <thor> | when mythfilldatabe runs? |
| 01:58 | <bline> | Even if it is a database error, it probably shouldn't segfault imho |
| 01:59 | <Kuwanger> | thor: mythbackend |
| 01:59 | <thor> | ok .... |
| 02:00 | <Kuwanger> | bline: I'd agree. |
| 02:00 | <Kuwanger> | Rebuilding now.. |
| 02:01 | <bline> | Are you using cvs mythtv? |
| 02:01 | <Kuwanger> | 0.8 |
| 02:01 | <thor> | bah |
| 02:01 | <bline> | heh |
| 02:02 | <thor> | Kuwanger, cvs is very stable (close to 0.9) and is much improved over 0.8 |
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| 02:02 | <thor> | in any case, 0.9 will be released in the next few days |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | someone just sent a 1 MB .jpg image of a term window to the list |
| 02:03 | <thor> | hey, Chutt's back |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | hi |
| 02:03 | <thor> | how was your day off =) |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | what, couldn't tell from the commit messages? :p |
| 02:03 | <thor> | saw one |
| 02:04 | <thor> | were there several? .... slow mailing recently |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | should be another coming through shortly |
| 02:04 | <bline> | Is the mythcommflag ran from mythbackend to flag commercials or is it handled in a library? |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | that's a separate program that can be used to re-flag a show |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | mythbackend does its own stuff internally |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | very similar to mythcommflag, just in a thread |
| 02:05 | <bline> | Ok, thanks. |
| 02:06 | <bline> | Trying to debug why commercials are not being flagged for me since I updated from cvs |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 02:06 | <thor> | Chutt, re: 0.9 moegreen said earlier that he's going to leave work on MythVideo until afterwards. MythMusic just needs a few last tweaks (setting "Unknown" for unknown cd's and sorting out volume control) |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | tomorrow night sometime |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | edt or whatnot |
| 02:07 | <thor> | ok |
| 02:07 | <Kuwanger> | thor: What's improved? |
| 02:07 | <thor> | Kuwanger, over 0.8? |
| 02:07 | <Kuwanger> | thor: Yea. |
| 02:07 | <thor> | A lot ... wait 48 hours and grab 0.9 |
| 02:08 | <Chutt> | < 24 :p |
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| 02:08 | <Kuwanger> | Uh huh. |
| 02:08 | <thor> | ok, make it 72 |
| 02:08 | <Kuwanger> | That's two days without shows. :( |
| 02:08 | <Kuwanger> | Oh, that's not bad then. |
| 02:08 | <thor> | (kidding) |
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| 02:09 | <thor> | Chutt, ok if I mess with VolumeControl ... it does not work as expected |
| 02:09 | * Kuwanger | does wish channel 11 would show up. |
| 02:09 | <bline> | ugg, this system is very borken |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | thor, i really couldn't care less about the volume stuff |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | so do whatever you want to it |
| 02:09 | <Kuwanger> | I don't suppose there's any way to fetch a single channel from another listing and "map" it to another in xmltv, is there? |
| 02:09 | <activelow> | it appears I dont have the mysql plugin in slackware's default qt install, can I just download the plugin and install it without recompiling qt? |
| 02:10 | <thor> | activelow, it's hard with slackware |
| 02:11 | <thor> | a Qt source download and compile is not *that* hard if you're careful about reading "./configure --help" and setting QTDIR correctly |
| 02:11 | <activelow> | thor: ok, so you recommend a qt recompile then? |
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| 02:11 | <thor> | I run slackware |
| 02:12 | <thor> | and I compile Qt |
| 02:12 | <activelow> | thor: no problem, any options on ./configure I should be aware of to specifically set? |
| 02:12 | <thor> | -thread |
| 02:12 | <thor> | or maybe -threads (can't recall) |
| 02:12 | <thor> | -Xft |
| 02:13 | <thor> | -qt-sql-mysql |
| 02:13 | <thor> | it's all in ./configure --help |
| 02:13 | <activelow> | thor: thanks... I wonder if 9.0 has that by default... 8.0 here.. |
| 02:13 | <thor> | I'm running 9.0 on one box, I built Qt |
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| 02:14 | <thor> | then again, I built the kernel |
| 02:14 | <thor> | that's why I like slackware |
| 02:14 | <thor> | ... but them I'm probably a dinosaur ... |
| 02:14 | <activelow> | thor: lol... me too then, I've been using it since 3.0 |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | snowman needs to replace the mail server |
| 02:15 | <thor> | Chutt, it's been **really** slow since Wired (probably a coincidence) |
| 02:16 | <thor> | activelow, first slackware I installed was 0.9*** something Linux kernel (some time in 1992) |
| 02:16 | <Chutt> | just more people on it, and it's slightly more active |
| 02:16 | <thor> | mail list spike since Wired? |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | more posts |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | users didn't go up that much |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | but it did go up |
| 02:17 | <thor> | would be bad if it fell over |
| 02:17 | <activelow> | thor: yeah I remember those days... actually a friend showed me sls, which I guess became slackware, but I could afford the hardware.. |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | actually, just broke 1000 subscribers to -users |
| 02:18 | <thor> | it should not be as slow as it is then |
| 02:18 | <thor> | or spamming wouldn't pay |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | you don't know how old the machine is =) |
| 02:19 | <thor> | ah ... this is the CVS celeron? |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | no, this is a p-133, i believe |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | http://www.snowman.net/machines/relay/ |
| 02:21 | <thor> | yeah ... mail relay needs an upgrade |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | he has a better machine for it |
| 02:21 | <thor> | where's anon cvs going again |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | just hasn't had time to switch over to it |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | bline's going to host it |
| 02:22 | <thor> | home DSL, or is he corporate? |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | it's the gossamer-threads guys |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | ie, mailing list archives |
| 02:22 | <thor> | ah, good, that always seems to be not bad |
| 02:23 | <thor> | anything major at your end for 0.9? |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:23 | <bline> | heh, I was just looking for a cvs stats program for it |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | just need to test that bugfix i just checked in a little more |
| 02:24 | <thor> | so ... for 0.10 |
| 02:25 | <thor> | do you want a bug fixing round (not that that worked before) .... |
| 02:25 | <thor> | or can I start thinking about breaking out mythmusic in client server |
| 02:25 | <thor> | ? |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | yeah, break stuff |
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| 02:26 | <thor> | good |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | i want to work on bringing all the uis down to a single window |
| 02:26 | <thor> | yup |
| 02:26 | <thor> | absolutely |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | fix focus problems, and be easier to remote control |
| 02:26 | <thor> | and snappier |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | eh, slightly |
| 02:27 | <thor> | light front ends |
| 02:27 | <thor> | worry about UI |
| 02:27 | <thor> | not logic |
| 02:27 | <thor> | not data |
| 02:27 | <thor> | just UI |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | can't fix the single window for everything, 'specially mythgame/video |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | but, everything else should be possible |
| 02:27 | <thor> | so ... I've been thinking about this |
| 02:28 | <thor> | thing that worries me for mythmusic ... |
| 02:28 | <thor> | is imagining Goom on a client server model |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | hmm? |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | why? |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | i'd imagine it'd be similar to mythtv |
| 02:28 | <thor> | I guess |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | server would just stream data to the frontend |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | for playback |
| 02:28 | <thor> | ok |
| 02:29 | <Ku-less> | Okay, now it doesn't do it. |
| 02:29 | <thor> | so how stupid should the fron end be? |
| 02:29 | <thor> | front |
| 02:29 | <Ku-less> | So, either it was an -Os bug, kde being rebuilt, or some weird new kernel thing. |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | how stupid? |
| 02:30 | <thor> | where's the logic of playlists? |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | frontend |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | backend doesn't care, it just gives it files |
| 02:30 | <Ku-less> | Could the front end be stupid enough to support only something less complex than mpeg4? |
| 02:30 | <thor> | so backend just knows how to receive a signal that says play *this* file where *this* is a URL |
| 02:30 | <thor> | stream |
| 02:30 | <thor> | not play |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | right |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | just like remote video playback works now |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | frontend just tells it 'gimme X' |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | and it does |
| 02:31 | <thor> | got you |
| 02:31 | <thor> | (in principal) |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | basically |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | just need a ringbuffer input class for mythmusic |
| 02:31 | <Ku-less> | You could almost send 15fps raw data across a 100Mbps line, if need be. |
| 02:32 | <thor> | but frontend has to be able to ask, tell me everything I could play and all of the structures that dictate playing hierarchies |
| 02:32 | <thor> | no? |
| 02:32 | <Ku-less> | Would be nice to be able to use a really low powered machine to play video. |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | ah, true |
| 02:33 | <Ku-less> | 320*240*3*60fps = ~13.8MB |
| 02:33 | <Ku-less> | The card itself can hypothetically support 12.5MB/sec. |
| 02:34 | <thor> | Ku-less, I'm not following you? |
| 02:34 | <Chutt> | 640 * 480 * 1.5 * 30 |
| 02:34 | <Ku-less> | 1.5? |
| 02:34 | <Chutt> | video is 12bpp. |
| 02:35 | <thor> | Chutt, while we're tossing around hypotheticals, can we have a core that controls access to audio and video devices? |
| 02:35 | <Ku-less> | Chutt: Ah. |
| 02:35 | <Ku-less> | Chutt: Well, that'll help a good deal then. |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | thor, i dunno |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 02:36 | <thor> | I'd love to be able to roam aroun Myth Menus and only have my music interrupted when I actual select a video to play? |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:36 | <Ku-less> | thor: Basically, if you could have one recorder, you should be able to have multiple really, really low power computers for the frontend. |
| 02:36 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 02:37 | <thor> | a little tiny thing at the core that says, "Ok, you can have the sound system", or, "OK, you can have the display" |
| 02:37 | <Ku-less> | thor: Or one. I just don't like the idea of "wasting" money on what ends up being almost completely a dump terminal. |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | thor, yeah, that's fine |
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| 02:37 | <Chutt> | you're not going to spend any less money by getting a p-133 vs a p3-500 going |
| 02:37 | <Ku-less> | Chutt: There's the issue that the backend ends up doing the decompression, yea. |
| 02:38 | <thor> | Chutt, mythdaemon? |
| 02:38 | <Ku-less> | And a p3-500 doesn't seem to reliable play 640x480 mpeg4 video. |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | thor, part of the frontend |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | ku-less, does quite easily, here |
| 02:39 | <Ku-less> | Didn't for me. |
| 02:39 | <thor> | Chutt, no ... below the backend ... I thinl |
| 02:39 | <Ku-less> | Maybe it was the video card.. |
| 02:39 | <thor> | think |
| 02:39 | <thor> | ah ... I see what you're saying |
| 02:39 | <thor> | yes ... per host frontend |
| 02:40 | <Ku-less> | I can't record at 640x480 on this machine. |
| 02:40 | <c0ol> | I looked at the mailing list and saw that some people have found u can control DSS via a serial cable, but does MythTV integrate with that at all? |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | c0ol, it lets you run an arbitrary program on channel change |
| 02:40 | <thor> | c0ol, yes |
| 02:40 | <c0ol> | oh ok |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | so you can do whatever the hell you want to change channels |
| 02:41 | <c0ol> | is there any program written for that, or should i write one |
| 02:41 | <thor> | any shell/perl/python/yadda/yadda/yadda you want |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | there's example scripts in the source tarball, and talked about in the docs. |
| 02:43 | <Ku-less> | Anyhoo.. |
| 02:43 | <c0ol> | hmm alright |
| 02:46 | <thor> | Chutt, I still think that something like MythDaemon should be "below" mythbackend and mythfrontend (as long as we're in hypothetical land) |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | i think that could be pretty easily handled in the frontend |
| 02:46 | <thor> | and dynamic allocation of recording resources? |
| 02:46 | <Chutt> | backend doesn't need to know that stuff's being played back |
| 02:47 | <thor> | think something rendezvous-ish |
| 02:47 | <Chutt> | what else needs to use it? |
| 02:47 | <thor> | I'm a dumb consumer, I plug in my third mythbox |
| 02:48 | <thor> | bah da doom, |
| 02:48 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 02:48 | <Chutt> | still needs to be setup |
| 02:48 | <Chutt> | slightly |
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| 02:48 | <Chutt> | once its setup, the master already automatically adjusts if its there or not |
| 02:48 | <thor> | dynamically |
| 02:48 | <thor> | ? |
| 02:48 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:49 | <thor> | oh |
| 02:49 | <thor> | I've got three of them going but never told them about each other |
| 02:49 | <thor> | too much dev, not enough fun |
| 02:49 | <Chutt> | the scheduler gets re-run whenever a backend connects/disconnects |
| 02:50 | <thor> | excellent |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 02:50 | <thor> | ok, granted |
| 02:50 | <Chutt> | i need to go to bed |
| 02:50 | <thor> | yup |
| 02:50 | <thor> | goo idea |
| 02:50 | <thor> | good |
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| 04:33 | <bline> | is recordedmarkup where there commercial skiplist is stored? |
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| 07:47 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: I had hoped to do it this weekend but it didn't happen. Hopefully some time this week. |
| 07:47 | <Snow-Man> | Of course it'll cause some amount of downtime but hopefully it'll go quick enough. :) |
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| 11:01 | <Chutt> | moegreen, hey, around? |
| 11:09 | <mdz> | Chutt: I've been getting a some audio buffer overflows recently...is this the problem you were aiming at when you put that sync() back in? |
| 11:10 | <mdz> | the kernel seems to intermittently suck in its buffering strategy |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | no |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | well, yeah |
| 11:10 | <mdz> | it'll have 400M or so worth of writes cached |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | i'm hoping that issue is that it goes wonky when there's lots of writes cached |
| 11:10 | <mdz> | before it starts writing |
| 11:10 | <mdz> | that's just stupid of it |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | and that distrupts everything to the point of dropping frame and stuff? |
| 11:10 | <mdz> | yep |
| 11:11 | <mdz> | sucks CPU too |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's exactly the issue |
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| 11:13 | <PeteCool> | could somebody which has mythweb working correctly send me the [mysqld] part of their my.cnf please? |
| 11:13 | <mdz> | I don't understand how Linux can be good at hard things and suck at easy things |
| 11:13 | <mdz> | Linux 2.0 or so would just wake up every 30 seconds and try to write _something_ to disk |
| 11:13 | <mdz> | so that this didn't happen |
| 11:13 | <mdz> | with kflushd or whatever |
| 11:13 | <mdz> | bdflushd |
| 11:14 | <Chutt> | petecool, what's the problem? |
| 11:14 | <mdz> | PeteCool: you should not need to change anything there, except maybe commenting out skip-networking if your mythweb is not on the same system as the database |
| 11:14 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: the mythweb mysql queries don't have the time to give full results, or something similar |
| 11:15 | <mdz> | there is no time limit by default, at least not in stock mysql or Debian mysql |
| 11:15 | <mdz> | there is a limit on the maximum size of a query (not the result, the query itself) |
| 11:15 | <PeteCool> | mdz: is it this: set-variable = key_buffer=16M |
| 11:15 | <PeteCool> | set-variable = max_allowed_packet=1M |
| 11:15 | <PeteCool> | set-variable = thread_stack=128K |
| 11:16 | <mdz> | PeteCool: those are the defaults, which are what I'm using |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | that's exactly what i have in mine as well |
| 11:16 | <mdz> | PeteCool: can you explain the actual problem you're seeing? |
| 11:17 | <PeteCool> | mdz: say I'm going in the conflicts screen... the top and bottom of the page are normal, have all their usual data... but the list of shows has only 10 or 12 shows or so, not the >70 there should be |
| 11:17 | <Conaz> | What did you all think about my thought of pulling out the html portions of mythweb into a skins directory? |
| 11:17 | <mdz> | PeteCool: no errors? |
| 11:17 | <PeteCool> | mdz: no |
| 11:17 | <mdz> | PeteCool: doesn't sound like a mysql problem, then |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | petecool, those are gotten from the backend, though |
| 11:18 | <Chutt> | not the database |
| 11:19 | <PeteCool> | the movies pages is screwed like that too, as is recorded |
| 11:19 | <Chutt> | recorded is also from the backend, but movies is from the db |
| 11:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:24 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, does mythvideo use the same communications channel between the frontend and backend? |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | it just uses the db for storage |
| 11:25 | <Snow-Man> | So if you split frontend and backend and had the vidoe files on the backend you'd be fucked, more or less, unless you did an NFS export or something. |
| 11:25 | <Conaz> | So if it is experiencing the same problem, the problem must be with mysql |
| 11:25 | <Snow-Man> | I suppose that's both good and bad. |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | snowman, heh |
| 11:28 | <Snow-Man> | Good because I'm guessing the mythtv communications doesn't include dolby digital audio and bad because it makes having seperate backend and frontend servers slightly harder. :) |
| 11:29 | <Snow-Man> | I guess I could do an NFS export to it. |
| 11:29 | <Snow-Man> | The frontend machine, that is. |
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| 11:29 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:29 | * Snow-Man | is starting to get tired of fighting with things. |
| 11:29 | <Snow-Man> | Getting tempted to just buy a cheap machine to be the frontend. |
| 11:30 | <Snow-Man> | Or use a machine I have already and toss the appropriate parts in it. |
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| 11:33 | <Conaz> | PeteCool: You might try running the query from the fetchMovieListings function (in functions.php) right in the mysql client |
| 11:34 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: can you please sync CVS docs to website? |
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| 11:37 | <rkulagow__> | thor: you here? what's the link that you posted about that case you were thinking about getting? |
| 11:37 | <rkulagow__> | [10:34] <rkulagow__> chutt: can you please sync CVS docs to website? |
| 11:37 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: NFS is pretty easy |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 11:39 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: It's also not something I really like to run. |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | my laptop just died again, so =) |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | mdz, snowman is a security weenie |
| 11:39 | <Snow-Man> | Linux NFS also tends to suck ass. |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | even if things are completely inside his own network |
| 11:39 | <Snow-Man> | Beyond just the security implications. |
| 11:41 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: any ideas how I can debug the incomplete conflicts/recorded lists? |
| 11:42 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: er, you'd only be running it on your LAN |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | petecool, not really |
| 11:42 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: and you could do it read-only |
| 11:42 | <mdz> | it doesn't get much better than that |
| 11:42 | <Conaz> | PeteCool, I'll help ya out with that |
| 11:42 | <Conaz> | PeteCool: give me a few though, gotta finish up some real work |
| 11:43 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: Yeah, yeah. |
| 11:43 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: my frontend/backend is diskless, so I don't have much choice :-) |
| 11:43 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: mythtv doesn't do more than stereo for audio, does it? |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | TV doesn't do more than stereo for audio |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | unless you're talkin 'bout hdtv |
| 11:43 | <Snow-Man> | I know that. :P |
| 11:44 | <Snow-Man> | I didn't know hdtv did more, actually. |
| 11:44 | <Snow-Man> | In any case I was talking about mythtv. :) |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | mythtv only does tv. |
| 11:45 | <Snow-Man> | So that'd be a 'no' then. |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | it doesn't need to do more |
| 11:46 | <Snow-Man> | Does mythweb use the frontend/backend communications mechanism? |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 11:46 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: I guess I'm a little suprised your backend is diskless. |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | mdz's weird |
| 11:47 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: NFS has been working alright with that amount of data? |
| 11:47 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: I have digital cable, so the backend is where the converter box is |
| 11:47 | <Snow-Man> | Having to be written that quickly.. |
| 11:48 | <Snow-Man> | mdz: Ah, well, I guess that makes sense. |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | it's not that much data |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | really |
| 11:48 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: and I want it to be quiet |
| 11:48 | <mdz> | yeah, it really isn't |
| 11:48 | <mdz> | there's a bit of latency when bits of myth get pushed out of cache |
| 11:48 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm, I suppose not if it's getting mpeg-4's and whatnot. |
| 11:48 | <mdz> | for UI stuff |
| 11:48 | <Snow-Man> | Hate that (latency). |
| 11:49 | <Snow-Man> | Wish my tuner changed channels faster. :) |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | once you've got a bunch of stuff recorded |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | you really will do less channel changing |
| 11:50 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm, yeah, that's true. I really need to get in and play with recording stuff. |
| 11:50 | * Snow-Man | notes atm he's got mythbackend just running at home watching TV w/ no one home. :) |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:50 | <Snow-Man> | Can you add stuff to be recorded and shit remotely at all? |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | that's the whole point of mythweb |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, errr. |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | ok, I was thinking 'web browser on tv' |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, docs updated |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | ie: WebTV or whatever style. |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | i don't really know why people think that =) |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, got that impression from the wired article and the name. |
| 11:52 | <Snow-Man> | "I want something that does all this stuff in one" |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | the wired guy got confused |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | yea yea |
| 11:52 | <Snow-Man> | ah. |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | go write a web browser |
| 11:52 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | using konq/e, probably, would be easiest |
| 11:53 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm, so, might have to play with mythweb earlier than I had originally planned. :) |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | I don't suppose you can use mythweb to tell it to stop playing live tv, eh? :) |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | just kill the backend |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | and frontend |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | and remove any stale ipc segments |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | Can't just kill the frontend? |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | should work |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | but to be safe.. |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | heh, yea. |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | it doesn't always get killed in a good place |
| 11:55 | <Snow-Man> | signal handler can't handle getting killed everywhere or no signal handler? :) |
| 11:56 | <Snow-Man> | oh, yeah, and what's with all these defunct mythbackend processes? |
| 11:56 | <Snow-Man> | Is that gdb's fault? |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 11:56 | <Snow-Man> | Figures. |
| 11:57 | <Snow-Man> | Now, I can restart the backend and it'll just basically sit there idleing. |
| 11:57 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, time to go compile mythweb. |
| 11:58 | <PeteCool> | Snow-Man: what you just said is kind of funny ;) |
| 11:58 | <PeteCool> | mythweb is php code, it needs apache + mod_php, not a compile |
| 11:59 | <Snow-Man> | I had to build the package but whateva'. |
| 11:59 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit, that's right, the channel list is still fucked. |
| 12:00 | * Snow-Man | wonders about forwarding mythtv-setup from home to wor. |
| 12:00 | <Snow-Man> | +k |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | should work fine |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | but you can just talk to the mysql db remotely, as well |
| 12:00 | <Snow-Man> | Should suck up bw like a mofo. |
| 12:00 | <moegreen> | Chutt: what's up? |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | moegreen, have you ever seen the epg do the category colors wrong? |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | like, they change when scrolling around |
| 12:01 | <Snow-Man> | I wonder how well my cvs debs would work on my work box. :) |
| 12:01 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: thanks. |
| 12:02 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I think I may have seen it once or twice, but it wasn't consistent and rarely happened. Has it become an increasing problem? |
| 12:02 | <Chutt> | moegreen, it happens fairly often for me |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | i'm going to look into that if i have time today |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | but i was just wondering if you'd seen it or not |
| 12:06 | <moegreen> | Chutt: not recently |
| 12:08 | <moegreen> | Chutt: Is the release still going to go down tonight? |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | i've just got some junk to finish up for work, first |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | you ok with that? =) |
| 12:12 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I will allow it :) |
| 12:14 | <moegreen> | Chutt: If I make up some thumbnails for MythVideo can we add that to the features and screenshots page? |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | just email em to me |
| 12:14 | <moegreen> | k |
| 12:18 | <rkulagow__> | lets see. people using an alpha-level driver with a cvs-level piece of software are saying that the install guide isn't newbie friendly. sigh. |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | i just sent out another response in that thread |
| 12:20 | <rkulagow__> | plus, their distro of choice does all sorts of weird stuff that makes installation of alpha driver "interesting". |
| 12:20 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: what php version are you using with mythweb? |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | whatever's in debian unstable |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, the mythweb time parsing stuff's fixed (that you just responded to) |
| 12:47 | <rkulagow__> | ah, cool. |
| 12:48 | <Snow-Man> | Hrm, release tonight? |
| 12:48 | <Snow-Man> | Mebbe I replace relay server before that? :) |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | whenever you want, really |
| 12:49 | <Snow-Man> | God damn the frontend is big. |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | compiled size? |
| 12:49 | <Snow-Man> | Well, deb size. |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | did you compile in debug mode? :p |
| 12:49 | <Snow-Man> | The backend was like 4.8M, the frontend was 13M. |
| 12:49 | <Snow-Man> | Well, sure. :) |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | that's why, of course |
| 12:50 | <Snow-Man> | yea, I know. |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | well, that and the theme size |
| 12:50 | <Snow-Man> | I might be able to get home early and install the relay server. |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | no rush, really |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | the release won't generate that many more emails :p |
| 12:52 | * Snow-Man | shrugs. |
| 12:52 | <Snow-Man> | It's a good excuse at the same time. |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 12:52 | <Snow-Man> | We'll see if it happens. :) |
| 12:53 | <Snow-Man> | erp, I installed 'da wrong shit. |
| 12:55 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: I downgraded from php4.3.2 to php4.3.1 and now mythweb is all fine... very weird |
| 12:56 | <Snow-Man> | Errrrrrr. |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | snowman, are you breaking stuff? |
| 12:57 | <Snow-Man> | Shit, mysql ain't listening. |
| 12:58 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Not really, why? |
| 12:58 | <Chutt> | just curious =) |
| 12:58 | <Snow-Man> | I'm fighting with getting mythtv-setup to work from my box at work so I can fix the channel listing and then see about this mythweb thing. |
| 12:58 | <Snow-Man> | mysql isn't listening though. |
| 12:59 | <Chutt> | can't you just export the setup display? |
| 12:59 | <Snow-Man> | Yes, I probably could do that. You were the one who suggested this. :) |
| 12:59 | <Snow-Man> | err, :P |
| 13:00 | <Snow-Man> | grrr, and xhosting isn't being forwarded atm. |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | um |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | no, i didn't |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | i suggested just talking directly to the db, not running the setup program on your work machine |
| 13:01 | <Snow-Man> | blah. |
| 13:01 | <Snow-Man> | I figured that's what you meant. |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | since that works fairly well :p |
| 13:02 | * Snow-Man | attempts to run using X forwarding. |
| 13:02 | <Snow-Man> | Found 3 Xinerama Screens. |
| 13:02 | <Snow-Man> | Using first Xinerama screen, 1280x960+1280+0 |
| 13:03 | <Snow-Man> | That's kinda cute. |
| 13:04 | * Snow-Man | waits... |
| 13:05 | <Snow-Man> | I wish there was better program information available. |
| 13:06 | <mdz> | C++ + debugging symbols = fucking huge |
| 13:06 | <Snow-Man> | I'm tempted to say it'd at least *look* better with everything in one case. |
| 13:07 | <Snow-Man> | Though it'd probably be possible to 'intelligently' case stuff. |
| 13:07 | * Snow-Man | wonders how much longer he has to wait before the setup thing will show up. |
| 13:08 | <rkulagow__> | of course, i get mythbackend to segfault twice when pausing video, but recompile and run in gdb? runs forever. |
| 13:08 | <Snow-Man> | rkulagow__: I had the same problem.. |
| 13:08 | <mdz> | I am running a debugging build right now because I had some backend crashes, too |
| 13:08 | <mdz> | and no crashes with this build |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | i don't get crashes with a release build, so you're all on crack :p |
| 13:09 | <Snow-Man> | Ok, everyone swear at Chutt at the same time now... |
| 13:09 | <Snow-Man> | hahaha. |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | and i'm running it on a crappy machine, so nyah |
| 13:09 | <rkulagow__> | my problem is that with backend and frontend running compiled there's too much overhead. i've got to try to get a DEBUG version of mythbackend and a straight-up version of mythfrontend going. |
| 13:09 | <mdz> | maybe it's a compiler thing |
| 13:10 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: instead of using config = debug, just change the release flags |
| 13:10 | <Snow-Man> | sfrost@snowman:/home/sfrost/debs/src/mythtv> gcc --version |
| 13:10 | <Snow-Man> | gcc (GCC) 3.3 (Debian) |
| 13:10 | <mdz> | that way Qt doesn't slow down ot a crawl |
| 13:10 | <mdz> | nor libavcodec |
| 13:10 | <rkulagow__> | mdz: release flags in settings.pro? |
| 13:10 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit, how long is it gonna take for this thing to show up? |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | shouldn't be doing anything special |
| 13:11 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Alright, your suggestion was to just play with the database directly? |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | should show up pretty fast |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 13:11 | <Snow-Man> | Well, it ain't showing up at all. |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | DEFINES += MMX |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE = -O3 -march=pentiumpro -fomit-frame-pointer |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | er |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE = -O3 -march=pentiumpro -g |
| 13:11 | <mdz> | and -DMMX |
| 13:12 | <mdz> | is what I'm running with right now |
| 13:12 | <Snow-Man> | For playing with the database- I'm guessing it's not quite as straight-forward. :) |
| 13:12 | <mdz> | I see no performance difference between that and the defaults |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:12 | <mdz> | and it is debuggable |
| 13:12 | <mdz> | (modulo function inlining) |
| 13:13 | <Snow-Man> | Doesn't mythtv-setup just run some scripts which muck with the database? |
| 13:14 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:14 | <Snow-Man> | Damn. |
| 13:14 | * Snow-Man | goes back to making mysql listen on it's port. |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | uncommenting a single line is so hard! =) |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | 'course, you probably have to open up holes elsewhere |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | redirect traffic |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | why not just ssh to that machine and run the mysql command line client from there? =) |
| 13:16 | <Snow-Man> | erm. |
| 13:16 | <Snow-Man> | I get the impression you're not quite getting what I'm trying to do.. |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | you want to modify some stuff in the db |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | you're at work, the db is at your house |
| 13:17 | <Snow-Man> | No, I want to wholesale select a different channel listing. |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | just ssh in and run tv_grab_na --configure --config-file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/blah.xmltv |
| 13:17 | <Chutt> | the --config-file is probably not the right option name |
| 13:18 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit, that's what I was meaning by it just running some script |
| 13:19 | <Snow-Man> | erm, I guess I need to find another option to pass it. |
| 13:19 | <Chutt> | well, read the help text |
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| 13:25 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, looks like I got the right lineup this time. |
| 13:25 | <Snow-Man> | What I need to do after the tv_grab? |
| 13:25 | <Snow-Man> | And have you heard of tuners that suck above like 85? ie: it doesn't seem to work.. |
| 13:26 | <Chutt> | well, how much higher? |
| 13:26 | <Snow-Man> | 86, 87, 88, etc |
| 13:26 | <Chutt> | well, unless they're digital channels, they should work |
| 13:27 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, they weren't for me, iirc they all looked like channel 85 but I'm not sure. |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | snowman, you need to clear out your channel and program tables |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | then run mythfilldatabase |
| 13:27 | <Snow-Man> | I was just looking at that. |
| 13:31 | <Snow-Man> | Just truncate channel, channel_dvb(?), program and programrating(?)? |
| 13:31 | <Snow-Man> | Then run mythfilldatabase with --file? |
| 13:32 | <Snow-Man> | Maybe update videosource 'cause I changed the name of the file too. |
| 13:33 | <Snow-Man> | Or maybe I'll just change videosource and run mythfilldatabase and see what happens. :) |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | just clear out all those |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | update videosource |
| 13:35 | <Chutt> | and run mythfilldatabase without any options |
| 13:35 | <Snow-Man> | ok. |
| 13:42 | <Snow-Man> | God damnit, now php4 is being a bitch. |
| 13:45 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, great, it's a combination of apache and mozilla fuckage. |
| 13:47 | <Snow-Man> | I should be going to main.php, right? |
| 13:47 | <Chutt> | isn't there an index.php |
| 13:47 | <Snow-Man> | Nope. |
| 13:47 | <Conaz> | Just main.php |
| 13:47 | <Snow-Man> | And the main thing keeps trying to be downloaded. |
| 13:48 | <Snow-Man> | Though the other php files are being run. |
| 13:48 | <Snow-Man> | And I can't seem to change that. |
| 13:48 | <Snow-Man> | There we go, fucking piece of shit. |
| 13:49 | <Snow-Man> | Storage: 26.6 GB used out of 73.4 GB total |
| 13:49 | <Snow-Man> | That's kind of silly. |
| 13:50 | <Conaz> | Did you need to put a / at hte end of hte url? |
| 13:50 | <Snow-Man> | No, I had to use a different URL to get to the same thing. |
| 13:50 | <Snow-Man> | mozilla had cache'd that apache was being stupid initially. |
| 13:51 | <Conaz> | ahh |
| 13:51 | <Conaz> | perhaps that was my problem initially too, had the same thing happen |
| 13:51 | <Conaz> | been working great ever since |
| 13:52 | <Snow-Man> | I wonder why I don't see times in the listings. |
| 13:54 | <Snow-Man> | like, they should be there, right? |
| 13:54 | <Snow-Man> | The screenshot has them. :( |
| 13:55 | <Snow-Man> | I just have the date and then the boxes under it are all empty. |
| 13:55 | <Snow-Man> | functions.php 1.15 12 hours ijr Fix the time parsing. |
| 13:55 | <Snow-Man> | HMMMM. |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | that's something totally different. |
| 13:57 | <Snow-Man> | So I see since it didn't fix it. |
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| 13:57 | * Snow-Man | checks the page source.. |
| 13:57 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: you're running 4/8 Mbps for PVR-250, right? |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | i'm running 4.5/6 |
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| 13:58 | <Chutt> | at 480x480 |
| 13:58 | <rkulagow__> | ah, ok. thanks. |
| 13:58 | <rkulagow__> | did you do the dnr=0 thing, or do you not have the ghosting issue with your firmware / card? |
| 13:58 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm, nope, doesn't appear to be in the page source either. |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | i did to the dnr = 0 thing, but i just modifed the driver source |
| 13:59 | <rkulagow__> | got it. |
| 14:00 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: you're waiting for the API to settle down first before incorporating this into Myth, correct? |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 14:01 | <rkulagow__> | ok |
| 14:05 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, unixtime is being set but humantime isn't. |
| 14:06 | <Snow-Man> | sqltime is being set too, hmm. |
| 14:07 | <Snow-Man> | It's not picking up the $GLOBALS['time_format']; thing. |
| 14:11 | <Snow-Man> | There we go. |
| 14:11 | <Snow-Man> | Silly debian config files. |
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| 14:19 | <emacsen> | Whoever writes a MythTV module for a Icom PCR-1000 gets my everlasting thanks |
| 14:19 | <Snow-Man> | hah. |
| 14:19 | <emacsen> | why ha? |
| 14:19 | <Snow-Man> | Time to find something to record tho. |
| 14:20 | <Snow-Man> | Why not? |
| 14:20 | <emacsen> | a shortwave PVR would be cool |
| 14:20 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, hey, I actually have a Date now too, that's nice. |
| 14:20 | <Snow-Man> | I could record russion news.. |
| 14:20 | <emacsen> | Zactly |
| 14:21 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: I don't suppose you could quantify bw usage of mythtv for, like, mpeg-4, 3500ish, for the frontend->backend communication? |
| 14:21 | <Snow-Man> | I'm guessing it's probably more than my ADSL could handle/ |
| 14:21 | <Snow-Man> | ? |
| 14:21 | <Snow-Man> | :) |
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| 14:23 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: it translates pretty exactly from the bitrate of the video stream |
| 14:24 | <mdz> | Snow-Man: so 3500kbit/sec -> 3500kbit/sec |
| 14:24 | <Snow-Man> | What about the audio..? |
| 14:24 | <Snow-Man> | The same I guess? |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 14:24 | <Snow-Man> | ok. |
| 14:25 | <Snow-Man> | I'm guessing it wouldn't look too nice at 384Kbit/sec, eh? :) |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 14:25 | <Snow-Man> | hehe. |
| 14:26 | <Snow-Man> | Using composite out I can kind of see some of the compression effects.. I'm guessing using svideo wouldn't change that issue, would it? |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | you can always up the bitrate |
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| 14:26 | <Chutt> | or sit further from the tv :p |
| 14:26 | <Snow-Man> | Yeah, I know I can. |
| 14:26 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
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| 14:27 | <Chutt> | it also helps to change the brightness/contrast a little |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | but be careful while doing that |
| 14:27 | <Snow-Man> | hmmm, ok. |
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| 14:30 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit, return to listings should go back to where I was. |
| 14:31 | <rkulagow__> | is debian-sid == unstable / testing version of debian? |
| 14:31 | <Snow-Man> | sid is unstable |
| 14:32 | <rkulagow__> | so, it's like mandrake cooker, where stuff is being updated / integrated, correct? |
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| 14:34 | <kiwi_uk> | Anyone alive? |
| 14:35 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: it is anything and everything that was uploaded the previous day |
| 14:37 | <kiwi_uk> | Right.. .anyone know if cable and terrestrial TV frequencies overlap? |
| 14:40 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, should be able to filter out channels in mythweb. |
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| 14:45 | <jungle> | hi, im having a problem with mythtv. I have scheduled a recording, and it apparently recorded it, but when i goto the playback menu to watch it, it says File is missing. I have checked the different paths and stuff, and i can find the file (.nuv), but i keep getting that File is missing error message, any ideas? |
| 14:45 | <Chutt> | jungle, did you change hostnames of the machine? |
| 14:45 | <Chutt> | and did you set the things in the first screen of setup properly? |
| 14:46 | <jungle> | Chutt: no, i havent changed the hostname, and yes i do believe i have setup all the things in the setup program correctly (including the paths) |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | that's where the issue will be |
| 14:47 | <Chutt> | quite possibly the address of the master backend is wrong |
| 14:48 | <jungle> | i just checked, the address is correct. |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | oh well |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | stick a debugging statement in the source before it prints out the file is missing stuff |
| 14:48 | <Chutt> | should be extremely easy to see what it's doing wrong |
| 14:50 | <rkulagow__> | mdz: thanks. i'm trying to decide if i'm being inconsistent with docs and the "stable / unstable" issue where i didn't add ray o's irsend comment because it was for lirc 0.7pre1 on debian sid. |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | you're fine :p |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | if he wants to author a section for unstable and keep it up to date, i'd say let him |
| 14:51 | <Chutt> | but don't worry 'bout it yourself |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | Added on: 16-Mar-2003 Downloads: 20619 |
| 14:52 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 14:55 | <mdz> | I am no longer reading any message whose subject appears more than once in mutt's index view |
| 14:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:55 | <mdz> | Mr. "Pyroman[FO]" apparently thought it necessary to resend his message twice in order to re-justify the paragraphs |
| 14:58 | <Chutt> | i also sent a message saying he was having dns problems |
| 14:58 | <Chutt> | thus the triple post |
| 14:58 | <mdz> | I'll remember that next time I have a DNS problem |
| 14:58 | <mdz> | note to self: send 3 copies of all email |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | i need to make it more obvious that the separate modules are there |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | they don't have nearly as many downloads as mythtv |
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| 15:03 | <rkulagow__> | i'm going to need to check up on the modules to see how they've changed relative to the 0.8 release. i think mythvideo has had an overhaul as has mythmusic, but mythgallery and mythweather have stayed stable, so the docs for that should be the same. |
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| 15:18 | <Snow-Man> | So, sounds like I might definitely be able to do the switch tonight provided my kid doesn't demand *all* of my time. :) |
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| 16:34 | <rkulagow__> | hi chutt. another sync between the website and CVS please? |
| 16:37 | <thor> | just got home ... anything pressing? |
| 16:38 | <rcaskey> | Chutt: will debs be available alongside the source release? |
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| 16:57 | <PeteCool> | rcaskey: you should be asking mdz about that |
| 16:59 | <PeteCool> | did nathan ziarek vanish or something? it's been a while since he's been here |
| 17:07 | * rcaskey | is looking at buying a new box for myth |
| 17:07 | <rcaskey> | moved yesterday and one of my buddies sat on my motherboard |
| 17:08 | <moegreen> | heh |
| 17:08 | <PeteCool> | rcaskey: did you kick his ass? I would've ;) |
| 17:08 | <rcaskey> | it was a p3-800 |
| 17:08 | <PeteCool> | a perfect frontend |
| 17:08 | <rcaskey> | worth maby a nasty scowel |
| 17:08 | <rcaskey> | PeteCool: yeah |
| 17:09 | <rcaskey> | but i need a thicker backend anyway and have a few good frontend machines |
| 17:09 | <rcaskey> | im trying to decide between one of those sleek spacewalker deals or wait and do hammer |
| 17:09 | <rcaskey> | seemed kinda expensive |
| 17:09 | <PeteCool> | a shuttle as backend? way too expensive IMO |
| 17:09 | <rcaskey> | tigerdirect seemed to have the best deal |
| 17:09 | <rcaskey> | PeteCool: well both together |
| 17:11 | <PeteCool> | rcaskey: I think a nemeiah with a pvr-250 would be better, but only is the X Cvs driver lets you control tv-out overscan |
| 17:11 | <PeteCool> | but it'd be more silent for sure |
| 17:12 | <PeteCool> | it'd be a bit cheaper too |
| 17:12 | <rcaskey> | PeteCool: I really kinda dont want to use a pvr250 |
| 17:12 | <rcaskey> | iv already got an el-cheapo card and eventually I want to do hd stuff |
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| 17:13 | <rcaskey> | dont need tv out as im using a transcoder |
| 17:13 | <rcaskey> | which I really like beause it locks my set into digital mode |
| 17:14 | <rcaskey> | some of that win32 pvr software has been getting good reviews |
| 17:14 | <rcaskey> | and it allows you to save to mpeg, so thats pretty cool |
| 17:14 | <rcaskey> | slickstream or something like that |
| 17:14 | <rkulagow__> | snapstream |
| 17:14 | <rkulagow__> | there's also sage.tv |
| 17:15 | <rcaskey> | yaeh |
| 17:16 | <rcaskey> | I wonder if any of this stuff works with the hdtv pci cards |
| 17:17 | <c0ol> | where is the best site to find cases and such for a PVR? |
| 17:18 | <rcaskey> | is it possible to run Myth over just plaine ol' X |
| 17:18 | <rcaskey> | could probably get ahold of some pretty solid state X terminals |
| 17:18 | <rcaskey> | only problem is they wouldn't have ir |
| 17:19 | <rcaskey> | and that might could be solved with a radio remote |
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| 17:21 | <mdz> | rcaskey: I will have debs available very shortly after the release, unless I get tied up in other business |
| 17:21 | <rcaskey> | coo |
| 17:22 | <rcaskey> | mdz: is there any particularly reason you can't run Myth over just plaine ol X |
| 17:22 | <mdz> | rcaskey: search the mailing list archives; it comes up every week or so |
| 17:22 | <mdz> | summary: myth uses multiple windows, and therefore needs a window manager |
| 17:23 | <rcaskey> | mdz: no, I mean remoteyl |
| 17:24 | <rcaskey> | err remotely |
| 17:24 | <rcaskey> | ie. just export the thing |
| 17:24 | <hachi> | I remember somebody writing a WM in POE (I think) in the last year, maybe that would make an appropriate replacement that 'just works' in any situation |
| 17:24 | <mdz> | rcaskey: are you suggesting to try to push full-screen, NTSC-rate video plus X overhead over the network? |
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| 17:25 | <rcaskey> | mdz: yeah, would it be doable with gigabit? |
| 17:25 | <mdz> | rcaskey: you must be joking |
| 17:26 | <rcaskey> | mdz: nope |
| 17:26 | <rcaskey> | would it be possible/ |
| 17:26 | <mdz> | in a word, no |
| 17:26 | <rcaskey> | ok |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | moegreen, got the email |
| 17:34 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: see my screenshot of the weird cutdown in mythweather? |
| 17:36 | <rcaskey> | wasn't there some guy working on a windows media player plugin for myth a while ago? |
| 17:37 | <thor> | rcaskey, I got it going on a ThinkNIC, but it took some doing |
| 17:37 | <rcaskey> | thor: got what going? |
| 17:37 | <thor> | Myth |
| 17:37 | <rcaskey> | worth it? |
| 17:38 | <thor> | well ... a bit wobbly |
| 17:38 | <thor> | but you can pick them up for $50 |
| 17:38 | <rcaskey> | hows performance? |
| 17:38 | <thor> | not great |
| 17:38 | <thor> | but I haven't fiddled with it enough |
| 17:39 | <thor> | thinking about adding a little touchscreen, hooking to the stereo |
| 17:40 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: yeah, which theme was that? |
| 17:41 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: SasQuatch |
| 17:41 | <rcaskey> | the 2400 xp for $120 on pricewatch looks like a deal\ |
| 17:41 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: does it have it's own weather-ui.xml (in it's theme dir)? |
| 17:42 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: yes |
| 17:42 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: search for desc3 and see if there is a <mutliline>yes</multiline> |
| 17:44 | <rcaskey> | the only down side is no 6.1 |
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| 17:47 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: multiline is set to yes for desc3 |
| 17:47 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: what is the height (it should be the last number on the <area> line) |
| 17:49 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: 64 |
| 17:50 | <moegreen> | PeteCool: try setting it to 72 and see if that fixes the problem, I think the line height is 35 per line, so it's trying to cut down the height by 1 line (I'm assuming the weather for that day was Scattered Thunderstorms) |
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| 17:51 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, docs updated |
| 17:51 | <Chutt> | moegreen, your screenshots are on there now, too |
| 17:52 | <moegreen> | Chutt: yeah I saw that, thanks. Everything looks good, except the old school OSD screenshots :P |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | want to get a couple clean shots of blueosd? |
| 17:53 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I'll give it a shot |
| 17:53 | <PeteCool> | moegreen: still looks the same at 72... let me try something bigger. BTW I don't get a picture for what is on currently for region CAXX0301 |
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| 17:56 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: thanks. |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | moegreen, anything else you'd want in that short description of mythvideo? |
| 17:59 | <moegreen> | Chutt: no, that sounds about right |
| 18:03 | <thor> | Chutt, I have a tiny fix to VolumeControl to make it work as one would expect .... should I hold off on the commit? |
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| 18:09 | <rkulagow__> | thor: is there some way of knowing which visualization i'm looking at in mythmusic (without recompiling, or restricting each in the mythmusic setup?) |
| 18:09 | <thor> | uhm, they each look different? |
| 18:09 | <thor> | ah |
| 18:10 | <thor> | no .... |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | thor, just commit it |
| 18:10 | <thor> | k |
| 18:10 | <rkulagow__> | if i'm looking at the "bars", that's == |
| 18:10 | <thor> | Spectrum |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | stereoscope |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | err, bars is spectrum |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | something that looks like == is stereoscope =) |
| 18:11 | <thor> | wiggly line scope |
| 18:11 | <thor> | gears ... uhm gears |
| 18:11 | <rkulagow__> | is synthaesia the one that sometimes looks like a black hole, and sometimes like you're zooming over a trippy landscape? |
| 18:12 | <rcaskey> | You got to be careful with those vizualizations ..."What do you see? I see a father killing his son..." |
| 18:12 | <rkulagow__> | that one makes my eyes bleed. |
| 18:12 | <rkulagow__> | but my 6 month old daughter likes it. |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, synaesthesia is on the webpage, full-sized |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | it looks more like an ink-blot test |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | with colors |
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| 18:13 | <Chutt> | you're probably thinking of goom |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | could be. i guess i'll have to iterate through them then... |
| 18:13 | <thor> | no iterate |
| 18:13 | <thor> | random hops |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | well, maybe not then: |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | goom/zoom_filter_mmx.c: In function `zoom_filter_mmx': |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | goom/zoom_filter_mmx.c:63: error: invalid `asm': invalid constraints for operand |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}: Assembler messages: |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}:171: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd' |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}:245: Error: expecting operand before ','; got nothing |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | make[1]: *** [zoom_filter_mmx.o] Error 1 |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/mythmusic/mythmusic' |
| 18:13 | <thor> | hit the 6 key |
| 18:13 | <just1nux> | What happens to the info in listings that tell if a program is new or a repeat? Does xmltv not capture this info or is it not provided by the source or what? |
| 18:13 | <rkulagow__> | make: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2 |
| 18:14 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: gcc -v |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | [mythtv@livingroom mythmusic]$ gvv -c |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | -bash: gvv: command not found |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | [mythtv@livingroom mythmusic]$ gcc -v |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.3/specs |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --with-slibdir=/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --enable-long-long --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,f77,objc,java --host=i586-mandrake-linux-gnu --target=i586-mandrake-linux-gnu --with-system-zlib |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | Thread model: posix |
| 18:14 | <rkulagow__> | gcc version 3.3 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3-1mdk) |
| 18:15 | <thor> | ./configure ? |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | thor: [mythtv@livingroom mythmusic]$ ./configure --enable-fftw --enable-opengl --enable-sdl |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | Creating config.h, config.pro |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | Configuration settings: |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | OpenGL support will be included |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | FFTW support will be included |
| 18:15 | <rkulagow__> | SDL support will be included |
| 18:16 | <thor> | hrm |
| 18:16 | <thor> | some assembler stuff (?) well beyond my knowledge .... Chutt ... mdz ? |
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| 18:24 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: I haven't built mythmusic with 3.3 |
| 18:24 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: the inline assembler could very well be broken |
| 18:26 | <Chutt> | i've compiled it with 3.3, though |
| 18:26 | <Chutt> | works fine |
| 18:27 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, sure that's current cvs mythmusic? |
| 18:27 | <Chutt> | that's similar to an older error |
| 18:32 | <thor> | one annoying key thing .... |
| 18:32 | <thor> | tv uses PageUP to go forward in time |
| 18:32 | <thor> | music uses PageDown to forward in list |
| 18:33 | <thor> | tough to map to remote |
| 18:33 | <thor> | not for 0.9 I guess |
| 18:37 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: cvs mythmusic; just did a cvs update and no files were changed |
| 18:38 | <thor> | rkulagow, does it at least compile if you do just ./configure |
| 18:39 | <rkulagow__> | let me check. |
| 18:39 | <rkulagow__> | (compiling now) |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | thor: nope. it still goes into the directory to compile, even if it's not specced in the configure. |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | gcc -c -pipe -Wall -W -O3 -march=pentiumpro -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -finline-functions -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -o zoom_filter_mmx.o goom/zoom_filter_mmx.c |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | goom/zoom_filter_mmx.c: In function `zoom_filter_mmx': |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | goom/zoom_filter_mmx.c:63: error: invalid `asm': invalid constraints for operand |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}: Assembler messages: |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}:171: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `movd' |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow__> | {standard input}:245: Error: expecting operand before ','; got nothing |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow__> | make[1]: *** [zoom_filter_mmx.o] Error 1 |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow__> | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mythtv/mythmusic/mythmusic' |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow__> | make: *** [sub-mythmusic] Error 2 |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow__> | [mythtv@livingroom mythmusic]$ |
| 18:45 | <thor> | hrm |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow__> | moegreen: got your update, added to docs. |
| 18:47 | <thor> | seeing if I can fix ... cvs is *really* slow |
| 18:47 | <moegreen> | rkulagow__: thanks |
| 19:07 | <rkulagow__> | chutt, mdz: does the error message i posted with goom faulting mean anything to you? |
| 19:08 | <mdz> | rkulagow__: yes, but it doesn't happen here |
| 19:08 | <mdz> | which means it's probably your build environment |
| 19:09 | <rkulagow__> | ack, that's what i was afraid of. |
| 19:09 | <thor> | good, cause putting in a mountain of ifdef's is not a good thing |
| 19:09 | <rkulagow__> | to me, all that assembler is even deeper magic than the C++ code in the rest of mythtv. |
| 19:12 | <thor> | rkulagow, this on the pundit? |
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| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | yes |
| 19:12 | <thor> | CPU? |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | celeron 2.4Ghz (400 Mhz FSB) |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | [mythtv@livingroom mythmusic]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | processor : 0 |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | vendor_id : GenuineIntel |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | cpu family : 15 |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | model : 2 |
| 19:12 | <rkulagow__> | model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | stepping : 7 |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | cpu MHz : 2421.611 |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | cache size : 128 KB |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | fdiv_bug : no |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | hlt_bug : no |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | f00f_bug : no |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | coma_bug : no |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | fpu : yes |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | fpu_exception : yes |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | cpuid level : 2 |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | wp : yes |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm |
| 19:13 | <rkulagow__> | bogomips : 4836.55 |
| 19:14 | <thor> | hrm |
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| 19:27 | <mdz> | Chutt: lots of theora activity the past couple of weeks, alpha 2 up now |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | amazing |
| 19:32 | <dopez> | i've tried added tv_grab_nl to mythtv, and uploaded a patch at http://www.xs4all.nl/~dopez/ , could someone tell me if the patch is made ok? (i've just done a diff -r olddir newdir ) |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | the file's 403. |
| 19:33 | <dopez> | http://www.xs4all.nl/~dopez/tv_grab_nl.patch this one perhaps? |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | .... still 403. |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | since it's the same file |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | the directory's readable |
| 19:33 | <dopez> | oic, i forgot permissions, one moment |
| 19:34 | <dopez> | now it should work |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | diff -ur olddir newdir |
| 19:34 | <Chutt> | will produce something that's quite a bit more readable |
| 19:35 | <dopez> | ok |
| 19:36 | <dopez> | new patch uploaded ;) |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | looks fine, now |
| 19:37 | <Chutt> | i'll get it applied |
| 19:37 | <dopez> | thanks ;) |
| 19:38 | <dopez> | one suggestion tho, only xmltv from cvs seems to work best with tv_grab_nl, lots of problems with stop and starting times on www.tvgids.nl |
| 20:03 | <dopez> | (just did a final test, i made the patch a few days ago and didnt update cvs for about 2 days, but it all works just fine, patch/compile/setup/filldatabase etc) |
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| 20:03 | <Chutt> | oh, it's already in cvs |
| 20:04 | <dopez> | seems allot of other patches are in too, another 10minutes compiling ;( |
| 20:08 | <Chutt> | there |
| 20:08 | <Chutt> | all done |
| 20:12 | <Chutt> | mdz, cvs is tagged as release-0-9 |
| 20:13 | <Chutt> | i'll build tarballs in a bit |
| 20:21 | <bline> | yay for release |
| 20:21 | <thor> | yeah |
| 20:22 | <bline> | Someone going to slashdot it? |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | i wasn't planning on it :p |
| 20:27 | * radsaq | goes |
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| 20:28 | <radsaq> | I am user #12 on slashdot, after all! |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | it's not released yet |
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| 20:28 | <TheAsp> | woah!!! |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | Ok, remember that thing where myth would grind my disks while recording? |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | welll it's stopped |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | what changed? |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | nothing? =) |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | this is from june 6th |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | current cvs, or slightly older |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | previous build did it |
| 20:29 | <Chutt> | yeah, i had the sync() out then |
| 20:29 | <TheAsp> | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2920580 Jun 6 00:54 /opt/mythtv/bin/mythbackend* |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | i put it back, though |
| 20:30 | <TheAsp> | ok, then why is it back. :P |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | since the lack of it causes problems |
| 20:30 | <TheAsp> | such as? |
| 20:30 | <TheAsp> | could it be lengthend? |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | some kernels don't deal well with flushing stuff out to disk |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | they'll wait until ram is full, then do it all at once |
| 20:30 | <TheAsp> | which ones? |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | making you drop massive amounts of frames and stuff |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | a bunch :p |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | recent? |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 20:31 | * TheAsp | loads up xemacs |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | uh |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | you can always remove it if you want |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | just wondering if it's safe |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | just search for sync() in NuppelvideoRecorder.cpp |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | i was like, damn, myth is broken, not recording anything |
| 20:32 | <TheAsp> | since libgtop2 is broken in sid, i dont have my cpu meter |
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| 20:52 | <Snow-Man> | God damn I've got alot of shit to do today. |
| 20:52 | <TheAsp> | Chutt: wouldnt an fsync be just as good? |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 20:53 | <Snow-Man> | I'm not sure I'll get to replaceing relay tonight. |
| 20:53 | <Snow-Man> | I don't know if I'm even gonna get *started* on it. |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | like i said, no problem :p |
| 20:54 | <thor> | Chutt, you want some MMusic screen shots? |
| 20:54 | <TheAsp> | (cvs should really list conflicts last or something) |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | anything wrong with what's on the site? |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | theasp, heh, yeah, it should |
| 20:54 | <Snow-Man> | Still have to call someone for daycare backup, throw some laundry on, fold clean laundry, empty the diaper genie, give Ryan a bath, try and get him to go back to sleep after that, possibly feed him, get the rest of the garbage out... |
| 20:54 | <thor> | Playing is out of date |
| 20:54 | <Chutt> | oh, sure |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | send me a .png and a thumbnail .png of the right sizes |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | i'll update em |
| 20:55 | <thor> | k |
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| 21:00 | <dopez> | is there anything i could try to get less dropped frames? (livetv @ 384x288 mpeg4 with mp3 audio on a P4 2.8ghz but still 'random' dropped frames) i ussually capture with mencoder and hardly have any dropped frames |
| 21:00 | <TheAsp> | ummm |
| 21:00 | <TheAsp> | on a p4? |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | i highly doubt you're dropping frames unless you've not got dma turned on on your harddrive |
| 21:02 | <dopez> | dma is on for all harddisks, im kinda of suspecting either xfree86 or the nvidia binary drivers (using debian sid) |
| 21:02 | <justin> | what does vmstat say |
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| 21:03 | <dopez> | about 20% cpu load, and 300kb bo most of the time |
| 21:03 | <mdz_> | Chutt: let me know when you have tarballs |
| 21:03 | <justin> | do you mean 20 under the id column or 80 |
| 21:03 | <dopez> | 4 0 144200 6288 42276 254928 0 0 0 300 426 2281 18 4 78 0 |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | mdz, they're up, just use 0.9 instead of 0.8 in the filename |
| 21:04 | <dopez> | 78 idle |
| 21:04 | <mdz_> | stupid php crap |
| 21:04 | <justin> | dopez: try snice -17 mythbackend mythfrontend |
| 21:05 | <TheAsp> | my computer is sooo quiet now :P |
| 21:06 | <dopez> | i might have way too much running on this box (kde mainly ;) and allot of swap is used, tomorrow im getting some more memory so i can disable swap memory |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't disable swap. |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | mdz, heh |
| 21:06 | <mdz_> | blecch, conflicts |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 21:06 | <TheAsp> | real memory has better uses then holding those 100 daemons on startup |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 21:07 | <dopez> | justin: the snice seems to help a bit, still have a bit of jitter in playback tho, but a rewind and its smooth again |
| 21:07 | <TheAsp> | do you have xv going? |
| 21:08 | <justin> | dopez: that sounds like your drive can't keep up |
| 21:09 | <dopez> | xv is working (mplayer works with -vo xv , is that 'good enough' xv?) |
| 21:09 | <dopez> | justin: hd to slow? |
| 21:11 | <justin> | well if you said you rewound and then it played again |
| 21:12 | <dopez> | i think its still playing the video from cache, no block in (if i can believe vmstat) |
| 21:13 | <mdz_> | Chutt: the new gdb in unstable apparently has support for external debugging info |
| 21:16 | <Chutt> | external debugging info? |
| 21:16 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 21:17 | <mdz_> | Chutt: keeping the debugging info in a separate file from the object |
| 21:17 | <rkulagow__> | posted my gcc 3.3 / goom question to the mandrake cooker list, hopefully someone there can figure out why the compile is breaking since it works for mdz. |
| 21:17 | <mdz_> | Chutt: so if you had something installed, and then later wanted to debug it, you could install a separate package with the debug info |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 21:18 | <mdz_> | very |
| 21:18 | <mdz_> | I think once the support is there I'll try shipping mythtv debugging stuff |
| 21:19 | <rkulagow__> | but it's still debugging after the fact, correct? it's not like it'll let you run the non-debug version for performance, get a segfault and be able to tell what happened, correct? |
| 21:21 | <rkulagow__> | i become amused when someone new to list posts a message that has 100% to do with a topic that has been raging for a few days but hasn't looked at the archive. (johnny swindle asking for RH9 / PVR250 handholding) |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | thor, how do you spell your last name again? |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | just got your email, btw |
| 21:24 | <thor> | Sigvaldason |
| 21:24 | <thor> | but you don't need to put that anywhere |
| 21:24 | <thor> | I get enough spam =) |
| 21:24 | <Chutt> | i wasn't going to put a link |
| 21:24 | <Chutt> | just your name :p |
| 21:24 | <thor> | k |
| 21:28 | <dopez> | well, frame drops aren't that bad (i think the snice helped a bit) but playback isnt really smooth, but i think it could be something with the nvidia (geforce4) card, also using dual screen ("MULTIPLE X SCREENS ON ONE CARD") |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | turn on the experimental a/v sync and jitter correction stuff in the first page of the playback settings |
| 21:29 | <rkulagow__> | thor: what was the link to that case you posted yesterday or the day before here in IRC? |
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| 21:30 | <thor> | rkulagow, the Cooler Master 610/620 ? |
| 21:31 | <rkulagow__> | was that it? something from directron i think:? |
| 21:31 | <thor> | you sure that was me? |
| 21:31 | <rkulagow__> | ok, maybe it wasn't then. entirely possible. nm. |
| 21:31 | <rkulagow__> | (just like moegreen and "MIL", i suppose) |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | there |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | can anyone think of any changes i missed? |
| 21:32 | <dopez> | Chutt: doesnt seem to help, i'll try another video card tomorrow to see if that helps or another box for mythfrontend |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | (webpage updated) |
| 21:32 | <thor> | yeah |
| 21:33 | <thor> | rkulagow, was it this: http://www.directron.com/atc600vx1.html |
| 21:33 | <Chutt> | i'm getting to the screenshots you just sent :p |
| 21:34 | <thor> | uhm ... updates? |
| 21:34 | <thor> | updated? |
| 21:34 | <rkulagow__> | you've got iulius.4 on one of the screenshots; did it ever get fully updated to the new UI interface after nziarek left? |
| 21:34 | <Chutt> | oh, it may take a few minutes for the cache to expire |
| 21:34 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 21:34 | <Chutt> | i'm going to leave the shots up, just as an example |
| 21:35 | <rkulagow__> | are you going to use ramon roca (?) photo theme? |
| 21:35 | <Chutt> | i'm going to put it up, yeah |
| 21:36 | <rkulagow__> | ok |
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| 21:39 | <TheAsp> | uh |
| 21:39 | <TheAsp> | is that 0.9? |
| 21:39 | <mdz_> | W: mythtv-frontend; Executable /usr/share/mythtv/themes/blue/mv-vbrowser.png with perms 0755 is not an ELF file or script. |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 21:39 | <TheAsp> | where the hell have i been? |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | theasp, it just came out |
| 21:40 | <TheAsp> | so whats next? |
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| 21:40 | * radsaq | goes to slashdot |
| 21:41 | <TheAsp> | i'm doing something wrong with the file locking im trying to put in, not working out |
| 21:42 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: just updated docs to new version number and updated tarball names. |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | i'll do a resync in a few minutes, then |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 21:43 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 21:43 | <Chutt> | few minutes = now |
| 21:43 | <rkulagow__> | cool. |
| 21:44 | <rkulagow__> | wonder what the delta is between release and slashdot posting? |
| 21:45 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 21:45 | <Chutt> | don't need a slashdot posting :p |
| 21:53 | <dopez> | brb |
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| 21:53 | <bline> | Have people started updating the themes? |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | other than ramon's new one, no |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | well |
| 21:54 | <Chutt> | i think the sasquatch one is mostly done |
| 21:54 | <bline> | I rather liked that one |
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| 21:59 | <dopez> | seems like using the nv driver helps allot, either that or allot less loaded in memory (konqueror with 10-20 tabs open, etc) |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hey, can you add a note to the howto about the suse -fPIC stuff? |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | (if there's not one there already) |
| 22:01 | <PeteCool_> | Chutt: SasQuatch works nicely with cvs/0.9 |
| 22:02 | <dopez> | but still dropped frames, and xfree86 sometimes takes more cpu load then mythbackend |
| 22:03 | <PeteCool_> | Chutt: do you still have the 0.8 theme files? |
| 22:03 | <dopez> | better get some sleep now, allready 4am, night all.. |
| 22:04 | <PeteCool_> | Chutt: I'd like to try updating funhouse... but without the 0.8 tarball, it'll be VERy hard =) |
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| 22:04 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | i'll make em available |
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| 22:08 | <robertj> | not even a change in topic for the release eh? |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | topic hasn't changed ever =) |
| 22:11 | <robertj> | welp, Im in the market for new hardware after a buddy sat on my motherboard ;) |
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| 22:27 | <rkulagow__> | chutt: sure. what is the exact issue please? |
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| 22:27 | <rkulagow__> | (there's now a whole lot of Suse specific stuff in the existing HOWTO) |
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| 22:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | an error like: |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | error: can't find a register in class 'BREG' while reloading 'asm' |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | while compiling in the libavcodec subdir |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | reason is because suse is distributing a broken qt |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | fix is to edit the libs/libavcodec/Makefile and remove any -fPIC in there |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | another thing that might be nice to add to the docs is a mention of the 'default' symlink in $QTDIR/mkspecs/ |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | since some dists don't add that |
| 22:30 | <Chutt> | (should be symlinked to linux-g++ most likely) |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | geez |
| 22:31 | <Chutt> | 157 downloads so far |
| 22:32 | <bline> | running qmake also fixes that |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | true |
| 22:32 | <Chutt> | but either fix should be in the howto =) |
| 22:32 | <mdz_> | 2 deb downloads already |
| 22:32 | <bline> | gentoo doesn't have that default symlink |
| 22:32 | <rkulagow__> | ok, just added the -fPIC thing into Troubleshooting. |
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| 22:34 | <rkulagow__> | brb. |
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| 22:41 | <Chutt> | composing freshmeat updates is always annoying |
| 22:45 | <Snow-Man> | Life's rough. |
| 22:45 | * Snow-Man | has finished all the shit he had on his list. |
| 22:45 | <Snow-Man> | more-or-less. |
| 22:46 | <Snow-Man> | Going to bust out relay-to-be shortly and see about at least getting an OS on it. |
| 22:47 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 22:47 | <Snow-Man> | Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/recorded.php on line 79 |
| 22:47 | <Snow-Man> | doh. |
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| 22:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:47 | <Chutt> | there, freshmeat announcement submitted |
| 22:49 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, though it's right- nothing that I said to get recorded today did. :( |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | any output from the backend? |
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| 22:49 | <Snow-Man> | Not much according to the logfile. |
| 22:49 | <Snow-Man> | 2003-06-09 13:49:19 adding: snowman as a player 0 |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | might want to run that with -v |
| 22:50 | <Snow-Man> | a'ight. |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | if live-tv works, though, so should recording |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | since live tv _is_ just recording =) |
| 22:50 | <Snow-Man> | yea. |
| 22:51 | * robertj_ | wonders how long it is until someone mentions .9 on /. |
| 22:51 | <Snow-Man> | I actually suspect the problem is something with updating the db with what to record. |
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| 22:51 | <Chutt> | snowman, that is the most likely thing |
| 22:52 | <Snow-Man> | 8 rows in set (0.00 sec) |
| 22:52 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, well, they're there at least. |
| 22:52 | <Snow-Man> | What's with chanid being +2k? |
| 22:52 | <robertj_> | btw, is the web front end missing any features? im pretty handy with php but havnet ever given it a try |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | robertj, someone's rewriting the web frontend right now |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | major thing missing is music stuff, though |
| 22:52 | <robertj_> | ahh |
| 22:53 | <Snow-Man> | Do I have to say how unintelligent that would be if that's an encoding of channel and source? :) |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | snowman, multiple sources |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | it's just an internal id |
| 22:53 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf. |
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| 22:54 | <Snow-Man> | I would have just kept two columns and dealt with it. |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | well |
| 22:54 | <Snow-Man> | Anyhow, the db was updated with what to record. |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | it's not really necessary |
| 22:54 | <Snow-Man> | Nothing in recorded tho. |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | just needs to have a unique id |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | well, next time a recording rolls around, be sure to have the backend running in -v mode |
| 22:54 | <Snow-Man> | The backend automagically checks the db every so often, right? |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | every second |
| 22:55 | <Snow-Man> | Well, that seems a bit frequent, but, hey, whatever. :) |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | i knwo |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | know |
| 22:55 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, running w/ -v, lemme set up a recording to happen at 11pm. |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 22:56 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, done. |
| 22:56 | <Snow-Man> | And it's in the record table. |
| 22:58 | <Snow-Man> | So, chanid is, what, sourceid+channel? |
| 22:58 | <PeteCool_> | Chutt: think you could send me the tarball for funhouse to petecool@vl.videotron.ca when you have a sec please? |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | not everwhere |
| 22:58 | <Chutt> | petecool, oh, right |
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| 22:58 | <Chutt> | give me a moment, i'll put em up on the webpage |
| 22:58 | <Snow-Man> | ok, just trying to make sure the db is consistant to some extent. |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | snowman, for US people, yeah, it's sourceid * 1000 + channel id |
| 22:59 | <Snow-Man> | Though if you had constraints on this stuff... :) |
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| 22:59 | <Kuwanger> | Well, hmm. :/ |
| 23:00 | <Snow-Man> | The backend ain't said shit. |
| 23:00 | <Snow-Man> | 2003-06-09 22:55:29 Verbose mode activated. |
| 23:00 | <Snow-Man> | 2003-06-09 22:55:29 Found changes in the todo list. |
| 23:00 | <Kuwanger> | "mysql < 0-8-to-0-9.sql |
| 23:00 | <Kuwanger> | ERROR 1142 at line 3: delete command denied to user: '@localhost' for table 'settings'" |
| 23:00 | <Snow-Man> | Mon Jun 9 23:00:30 EDT 2003 |
| 23:00 | <Snow-Man> | :/ |
| 23:00 | <Chutt> | snowman, weird |
| 23:01 | <Chutt> | it never says it's going to record anything? |
| 23:01 | <Snow-Man> | Nope. |
| 23:01 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: lost my scrollback when i moved my laptop. what was the second issue with the qmake link? |
| 23:01 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: Check the permissions for the user you are importing the sql script with |
| 23:01 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, some distros don't include a 'default' link in the mkspecs directory |
| 23:02 | <Kuwanger> | Timon: What should they be? |
| 23:02 | <Snow-Man> | Most things in the db appear to be empty atm. |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, this can be fixed by either running 'qmake' before running 'make', or creating that link |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | snowman, if you're bored, go add some debugging statements to programs/mythbackend/scheduler.cpp |
| 23:02 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: What line are you using to import the file? mysql mythconverg < 08-09.sql? |
| 23:03 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: It should be something like: mysql -u mythtv --password=mythtv mythconverg < 0-8-to-0-9.sql |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | snowman, the end of 'FillRecordLists()' would be a good place to look, just stick a couple calls to 'PrintList()' in there |
| 23:04 | <rkulagow_> | ok, so on my system in /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs i've got default -> linux-g++ is that the one that you're talking about? |
| 23:04 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, exactly |
| 23:04 | <Kuwanger> | mysql < 0-8-to-0-9.sql |
| 23:04 | <Snow-Man> | (gdb) p recordingList.size() |
| 23:04 | <Snow-Man> | $1 = 0 |
| 23:04 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm. |
| 23:04 | <rkulagow_> | ok, and if it's not there, then the compile will bomb out, and to fix it you can make the link, or run qmake |
| 23:04 | <Chutt> | right |
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| 23:05 | <Kuwanger> | Timon: Worked. |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | that's _only_ if it complains about not finding /full/path/to/mkspecs/default/qmake.spec or whatnot |
| 23:05 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: This is all in the documentation btw |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | same stuff as before if it just complains about /mkspecs/default/qmake.spec |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | ie, that's just QTDIR not being set |
| 23:05 | <rkulagow_> | hrmm. qmake won't work unless you're root though, right? on my box the perms won't let the user write to that directory. |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | no, run qmake in the mythtv source dir |
| 23:06 | <Chutt> | it'll recreate the Makefile, and change it from 'default' in there to 'linux-g++' most likely |
| 23:06 | <rkulagow_> | ah, got it. |
| 23:06 | <rkulagow_> | i was going to whack the symlink and check to see what happens. |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | that'll show you what the error message is =) |
| 23:07 | <Snow-Man> | --- print list start --- |
| 23:07 | <Snow-Man> | Seinfeld 5 2005 "Mon Jun 9 23:00:00 2003" 2 3 2 -- 0 1 0 |
| 23:07 | <Snow-Man> | --- print list end --- |
| 23:07 | <Kuwanger> | Timon: Uh, where? |
| 23:07 | <rkulagow_> | not having the default symlink can cause problems with compiling other Qt apps though, right? that seems like a fairly large error on the distro's part. |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, it really depends |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | it's only for distributed Makefiles with the directory hardcoded |
| 23:08 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: I dunno, I've seen comments in there about the db syntax. Never really paid attention to that part. |
| 23:08 | <Snow-Man> | (gdb) p secsleft |
| 23:08 | <Snow-Man> | $16 = -269 |
| 23:08 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | i should probably just remove the top level Makefiles |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | and have the user gen em with qmake |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | snowman, heh, so it's working now? |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | Seems to be. |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | etc. |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | what'd you do? |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | Ran it in gdb and went through things slowly. |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | Didn't run it with any options either. |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | how'd you select the show to record? |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | Had been running with: |
| 23:09 | <Snow-Man> | -v --daemon --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --pidfile /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid |
| 23:10 | <Snow-Man> | I used mythweb to set up the recording. |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | like |
| 23:10 | <Snow-Man> | I checked the db and the entry was there. |
| 23:10 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, record only this thing at this time |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | maybe mythweb isn't announcing the change to the db properly |
| 23:10 | <Snow-Man> | Well, I saw the entry in there from cli client.. |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:11 | <Chutt> | but the backend checks an entry in the settings table to see if there's anything new |
| 23:11 | <Snow-Man> | oh. |
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| 23:12 | <Snow-Man> | What entry would that be? |
| 23:12 | <Kuwanger> | Okay, seems a bit..err..broke. |
| 23:12 | <Snow-Man> | I'm not seeing anything obvious. |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | RecordChanged |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | mysql> select * from settings where value = 'RecordChanged'; |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | Empty set (0.00 sec) |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | know what |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | mythweb never creates that entry |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | "kuwanger@kuwanger mythtv-0.9 $ make |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | It's trying to update |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | kuwanger@kuwanger mythtv-0.9 $ ll /usr/qt/3/mkspecs/ |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | total 4 |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | drwxr-xr-x 2 root users 4096 2003-02-05 17:23 linux-g++/ |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | kuwanger@kuwanger mythtv-0.9 $ ll /usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf |
| 23:13 | <Kuwanger> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2142 2003-05-01 06:25 /usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf" |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | it only just updates it |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | Right. |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, heh, that's just what i was talking about with rkulagow |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | Stupid thing. :) |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, just run 'qmake' in the source dir |
| 23:14 | <Snow-Man> | Bug in mythweb, or bug in cvs.sql? |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | bug in mythweb |
| 23:14 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Fun. |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | the normal program guide stuff creates the entry if needed |
| 23:14 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I'll implement a fix there. |
| 23:14 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: What's the source dir? |
| 23:14 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: I'm pretty sure thats in the docs aswell |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | snowman, so, just go schedule something to be recorded from 'mythepg' |
| 23:14 | <Timon> | Kuwanger: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | timon, no, it's not |
| 23:15 | <Kuwanger> | Timon: ? |
| 23:15 | <Snow-Man> | bah, me fix mythweb. |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | timon, this is a different issue |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, the mythtv source dir you're compiling from |
| 23:15 | <Snow-Man> | There's no like 'insert or update' thing you can do, is there? |
| 23:15 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: And qmake doesn't do anything. |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, it remade the makefile |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | so just run make again, and it should compile fine, now |
| 23:16 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: It spit out a list of options. |
| 23:16 | <Timon> | Chutt: My bad, looks very similar to the issue with QTDIR not being set |
| 23:16 | <Kuwanger> | It didn't remake the make file. |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | timon, right |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, from the mythtv-0.9 dir? |
| 23:16 | <Kuwanger> | Timon: Ignoring there exists /usr/qt/3 |
| 23:16 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Yep. |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 23:16 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Do I pass qmake something? |
| 23:16 | <Chutt> | other thing to do is just create a symlink from default -> linux-g++ |
| 23:17 | <Kuwanger> | Right. |
| 23:17 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: uploaded. |
| 23:17 | <Kuwanger> | Might as well. :/ |
| 23:17 | <Chutt> | in your /usr/qt/3/mkspecs dir |
| 23:17 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, that _should_ be there, but some stuff doesn't create it for some reason |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | aaah |
| 23:18 | <techniq> | can someone help me with a compile issue I'm having (its happening during mythepg). I can post the error, but don't want to flood to many lines |
| 23:18 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: I see. |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, 'qmake mythtv.pro' would work |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | also |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | sorry about that |
| 23:18 | <Kuwanger> | Chutt: Okay. |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | i forgot that it wouldn't work in a differently named directory |
| 23:19 | <mdz_> | Chutt: 8 downloads |
| 23:19 | <Chutt> | techniq, just paste the end of it |
| 23:19 | <techniq> | ../../libs/libavformat/libavformat.a(asf.o)(.text+0x12fe): In function `asf_write_packet': : undefined reference to `av_rescale' |
| 23:19 | <techniq> | there is about 6-7 lines of these, then the usually error 1 stuff, etc |
| 23:19 | <techniq> | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:20 | <techniq> | this line is directly above the Error 1 stuff |
| 23:20 | <Snow-Man> | 2003-06-09 23:19:57 Found changes in the todo list. |
| 23:20 | <Snow-Man> | | RecordChanged | no | NULL | |
| 23:20 | <Snow-Man> | yay. |
| 23:20 | <Snow-Man> | Should hostname be set? |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | techniq, do a make distclean |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | snowman, nope |
| 23:20 | <techniq> | k |
| 23:21 | <Snow-Man> | You want my crappy diff? |
| 23:21 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, did you say to run 'qmake'? |
| 23:21 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, it should be 'qmake mythtv.pro', i'm sorry :( |
| 23:21 | <rkulagow_> | yes. it needs to be qmake mythtv.pro, right? |
| 23:21 | <Chutt> | right |
| 23:21 | <techniq> | Chutt, did so |
| 23:21 | <rkulagow_> | argh, typing in the dark is slower... |
| 23:21 | <rkulagow_> | standby |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | techniq, that function it's complaining about is defined in libavcodec.a |
| 23:22 | <techniq> | i had noticed i had left off a few -fPIC's in the Makefile in the mythepg dir, but i took them out and still got the make error |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | and it exists there |
| 23:22 | <techniq> | i c |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | petecool, http://www.mythtv.org/oldthemes/[themename].tar.gz |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | petecool, so, funhouse.tar.gz |
| 23:25 | <techniq> | Chutt: what do i need to do? |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | techniq, the only place you should be removing -fPICs is from the libavcodec subdir |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | nowhere else |
| 23:25 | <techniq> | i had done that |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | otherwise, i don't know what's wrong |
| 23:25 | <PeteCool_> | Chutt: thanks |
| 23:25 | <techniq> | then when the other error came up, i took them out of the epg dir |
| 23:25 | <techniq> | k |
| 23:26 | <techniq> | let me re'tar and try again |
| 23:26 | <techniq> | probably messed up something |
| 23:27 | <techniq> | so just the 2 -fPIC in the file = libs/libavcodec/Makefile |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:27 | <techniq> | k |
| 23:27 | <techniq> | thanks, i'll see what it does now |
| 23:30 | <Snow-Man> | strange error flushing buffer ... |
| 23:30 | <Snow-Man> | I get that alot. : |
| 23:30 | <Snow-Man> | :/ |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | read the faq, dummy |
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| 23:36 | <Snow-Man> | bah, faq's, yeesh. :) |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | it's just liblame bitching about stupid stuff |
| 23:36 | <Snow-Man> | yea, so I saw. |
| 23:36 | <Snow-Man> | You told me that before too, I'm just being dense. |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | oh yeah, i did, didn't i |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | i should've been meaner, then |
| 23:37 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 23:37 | <Snow-Man> | You want this mythweb patch or what? :) |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 23:38 | <Snow-Man> | mkay, it ain't the prettiest thing. |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | <shrug> |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | i'm not going to fix it |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | you already did, so =) |
| 23:39 | <Snow-Man> | Sent |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | are you going brit on us? |
| 23:40 | <Snow-Man> | hrm? |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | 'I can never remember which bloody email' |
| 23:40 | <Snow-Man> | bah. |
| 23:40 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: uploaded new docs with your requests incorporated. |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, many thanks |
| 23:41 | <rkulagow_> | NP |
| 23:41 | <rkulagow_> | you know no one's going to read it, and it just means that bruce markey needs one more keyboard macro when he's responding in -users. |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | hopefully people will |
| 23:43 | <rkulagow_> | yeah, sure, right. optimist! |
| 23:43 | <rkulagow_> | all they'll ask about are why the HOWTO doesn't have any RH9 and debian-sid docs... |
| 23:43 | <Chutt> | snowman, and why are you signing random email sent to me? :p |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | i don't care if you're who you say you are |
| 23:44 | <Snow-Man> | I sign everything by default, duh. |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | that set of changes looks fine |
| 23:45 | <Snow-Man> | k. |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | i'm too lazy right now to commit it, though |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | maybe tomorrow |
| 23:45 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 23:45 | * Snow-Man | shrugs. |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | 272 downloads |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | hasn't been announced anywhere at all |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | not even my mailing list =) |
| 23:46 | <Snow-Man> | hehe. |
| 23:53 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmmm, that's not a good sound from a machine that's going to be doing lots of disk access. |
| 23:55 | <PeteCool_> | rkulagow_: could you update the gentoo software requirements in the howto, and replace the kde requirement with qt + window manager of choice (listing evilwm, oroborus and lwm as options - or... is this already listed higher in that page?) |
| 23:55 | <PeteCool_> | there's no point in having people download all those big source tarballs, and compiling for hours, when it's not even needed |
| 23:56 | <Snow-Man> | ok, good, just a wire-in-fan issue. :) |
| 23:56 | <PeteCool_> | I mailed the gentoo docs maintainer, haven't got an answer yet, though |
| 23:57 | <rkulagow_> | petecool: that part was written by tclark@telia.com; can you shoot him an email and cc me? if we don't hear from him within a reasonable amount of time (lets say thursday) then i'll go ahead and open the gentoo section to whoever wants to maintain it. |
| 23:58 | * bline | uses windowmaker and it works fine |
| 23:58 | <bline> | tiny compile |
| 23:59 | <bline> | Does it say in the docs for gentoo to put mysql in USE before compiling qt? |
| 23:59 | <PeteCool_> | rkulagow_: k, good |
| 23:59 | <PeteCool_> | bline: yes |