| 00:00 | <poptix> | in fact, my entire sound system works without hassle |
| 00:00 | <bigguy> | all my various sound cards work great in alsa |
| 00:00 | <bigguy> | not all work great if at all in oss |
| 00:00 | <bigguy> | without the oss/nonfree that is |
| 00:01 | <bigguy> | anyway laundry time |
| 00:01 | <bigguy> | bbiaf |
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| 00:15 | <exs> | Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! |
| 00:15 | <exs> | Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! |
| 00:15 | <exs> | (EE) [GLX]: Failed to add GLX extension (NVIDIA XFree86 driver not found) |
| 00:15 | <exs> | now I'm getting that when trying to startx |
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| 00:23 | <exs> | crap, changed the driver from nv to nvidia |
| 00:23 | <exs> | now the machine locked up |
| 00:23 | <exs> | sometimes I hate X |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | mdz, did you ever finish looking at that patch by david watson "conflict resolution bug"? |
| 00:25 | <mdz_> | Chutt: doesn't ring a bell |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | you pasted a bit of it in yesterday |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | or earlier today? |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 00:26 | <mdz_> | sure it was me? |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | [13:45] <mdz_> if (second->conflicting && !first->conflicting) |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | [13:45] <mdz_> when would that ever happen? |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | that |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | that wasn't from a patch |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | that is the existing scheduler code |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | funny =) |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | I was looking into implementing overrides and/or fixing the issues you mentioned the otherd ay |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | that's in the patch |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | as context? |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | I don't think I saw this patch |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | part of it was changed |
| 00:28 | <exs> | has anyone else had X just lock a machine up with the nvidia driver? |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | this paper is pretty good: http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfs-perf/results/cel/write-throughput.html |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | explains some of what I'm seeing with the I/O stuff |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | http://lists.snowman.net/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2003-June/010664.html |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | is the patch |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | doesn't _really_ fix things |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | but it would help a little |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | if it can record a show later, do it then, instead of recording something that's already started |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | hmm, actually |
| 00:36 | <exs> | cool, I've earned an /ignore :) |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | exs, there's better places to ask questions about X |
| 00:40 | <exs> | yeah, but I have a greater chance of encountering someone with a similar config in here |
| 00:40 | <exs> | seeing as my ultimate goal is the same as everyone else |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | highly doubtful |
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| 00:53 | <exs> | (WW) NVIDIA(0): No connected display devices detected; assuming 1 CRT |
| 00:53 | <exs> | odd, it didn't detect the svideo connected |
| 00:53 | <exs> | that may be why I get no video and it locks up |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | there's ways to force what's connected in the config file |
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| 00:54 | <exs> | do you use one of these ways? |
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| 00:55 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 01:18 | <monkeyBox> | Does mythtv have plans to implement a way to change the misc. settings for the PVR-250 (such as bitrate, etc..) ? |
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| 01:19 | <monkeyBox> | b/c it would be nice to be able to record at different bitrates (w/ profiles) instead of changing it manually with "test_ioctl" |
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| 01:22 | <bline> | wasn't there a bug about hitting a random key would cause a segfault with lastest cvs? |
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| 01:31 | <captain_proton> | regarding the backend database, is there any way i can tell if something is a movie based on the chanid+starttime+endtime ? |
| 01:31 | <captain_proton> | it looks like 'stars != 0' would be the trick |
| 01:32 | <captain_proton> | but i'm not sure |
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| 01:36 | <bline> | it's happening on the delete screen as well if no one has reported it. |
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| 02:00 | <Chutt> | bline, fixed, thanks =) |
| 02:03 | <bline> | cool :) |
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| 02:05 | <Chutt> | that's the last of those |
| 02:17 | <bline> | What function in NuppleVideoPlayer.cpp is mainly used for audio syncing? |
| 02:18 | <bline> | ExAVSync? |
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| 02:42 | <KonvIRC> | anyone know why when i mute my linein channel, it doesn't mute? |
| 02:42 | -!- | KonvIRC is now known as techniq |
| 02:45 | <bline> | wrong linein? |
| 02:45 | <techniq> | no |
| 02:46 | <bline> | well mute everything and see if you get no sound.' |
| 02:46 | <techniq> | i actually can't mute it unless i mute igain |
| 02:46 | <techniq> | or with volume or pcm |
| 02:47 | <bline> | you are trying to mute the capture input? |
| 02:47 | <techniq> | i can hear it now without mythtv on, i have line muted and igain not, but if i mute igain, it mutes |
| 02:47 | <techniq> | no |
| 02:47 | <techniq> | right now its completely out of sync |
| 02:47 | <techniq> | which i think is because i'm hearing the live feed |
| 02:48 | <bline> | Right, so you need to mute what you are capturing on. |
| 02:48 | <bline> | linein or whatever |
| 02:48 | <techniq> | the igain? |
| 02:48 | <bline> | whatever you have capture set on |
| 02:48 | <techniq> | i do |
| 02:48 | <techniq> | let me show you a ss |
| 02:49 | <bline> | this second sound is covered in the howto btw. |
| 02:49 | <bline> | or the FAQ |
| 02:50 | <techniq> | i went through the FAQ, to no prevail |
| 02:50 | <bigguy> | avail |
| 02:50 | <techniq> | i had it working right before i formatted as well as upgraded to .9 |
| 02:50 | <techniq> | ;) |
| 02:50 | <bigguy> | or somethink |
| 02:50 | <bigguy> | thing |
| 02:51 | <techniq> | http://techniq.homelinux.com:8000/mute.jpg |
| 02:51 | <techniq> | does that look right? |
| 02:52 | <bline> | ugg, I can't read that |
| 02:52 | <bline> | use alsamixer |
| 02:55 | <techniq> | http://techniq.homelinux.com:8000/mute1.jpg |
| 02:55 | <techniq> | with alsamixergui |
| 02:55 | <techniq> | i have line selected as the recording source, but muted |
| 02:55 | <techniq> | still hear it |
| 02:56 | <bline> | use the terminal client, I don't understand all those lights and stuff |
| 02:57 | <techniq> | http://techniq.homelinux.com:8000/mute2.jpg |
| 02:57 | <techniq> | try that |
| 02:58 | <bline> | So you are capturing on "Line"? |
| 02:58 | <techniq> | i guess so.. where do i set it |
| 02:59 | <bline> | Anyway, whatever line you are caturing in, you need to mute it |
| 02:59 | <techniq> | capture also shows to be captureing |
| 02:59 | <bline> | there will be 4, atleast there are on mine |
| 03:00 | <techniq> | i have something like that |
| 03:00 | <techniq> | only line selected will put out anything |
| 03:00 | <techniq> | but it won't mute |
| 03:00 | <techniq> | is what i'm not getting |
| 03:00 | <bline> | If you can't get it to mute, it is the wrong line |
| 03:01 | <bline> | PMC ofcoarse will mute everything, that is like the master |
| 03:01 | <bline> | err PCM |
| 03:03 | <bline> | maybe you should go back to the install inteructions and the sound troubleshooting section |
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| 09:24 | <PeteCool> | Chutt: any ideas why SasQuatch (and funhouse-1.5 by "genetics") would only display the french <alttext> strings in the xml menus? |
| 09:41 | <Snow-Man> | Are the mailing lists working for people? |
| 09:42 | <rkulagow> | are messages flowing, yes. do newbies read the archives, for the most part, no. |
| 09:42 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 09:42 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, the first is what I care about. :) |
| 09:42 | <Snow-Man> | I'm planning to replace the relay server tonight (honest!) |
| 09:42 | <rkulagow> | (there's about a 5 minute lag on my own messages, but it's working as of a few minutes ago) |
| 09:43 | <Snow-Man> | I couldn't care less about a 5 minute lag.:) |
| 09:43 | <Snow-Man> | Though it'll probably be better with the new relay server. |
| 09:43 | <Snow-Man> | Since it's a faster box I'll probably set it up so that it can have a higher number of concurrent connections going. |
| 09:45 | <rkulagow> | have you considered adding a footer that points to the gossamer-threads archive? |
| 09:46 | <Snow-Man> | I just run the servers, Chutt runs the list and stuff like that. |
| 09:46 | <thor> | and a header that says RTFM and GUFG |
| 09:46 | <thor> | =) |
| 09:48 | <rkulagow> | rtfm i know, but gufg? |
| 09:48 | <thor> | go use *friendly* google |
| 09:48 | * Conaz | laughs |
| 09:49 | <Conaz> | I'll have to remember that one |
| 09:49 | * Snow-Man | smirks. |
| 09:49 | <rkulagow> | rkulagow laughs, but doesn't know how to get that to show up as one of those out of band comments. i guess i should GUFG. |
| 09:49 | <Conaz> | I've just recently started actually reading almost all the messages coming through the list, I can see how the duplicate questions irritate you all :) |
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| 09:58 | <bigguy> | not to mention the html email |
| 10:02 | <Conaz> | Hehee, yup, just saw that mentioned once again |
| 10:04 | <bigguy> | "I'm a simple guy who can't be bothered to read the documentation provided so someone hold my hand through the process." |
| 10:05 | <thor> | and why doesn't my npeg-2 decoder work? |
| 10:06 | <bigguy> | and why does my extremely underpowered machine get pegged out when playing large mpeg2 and mpeg4 files? |
| 10:06 | <Conaz> | Perhaps we need a "pre-test" that one would need to pass before actually getting signed up for the mailing lists? |
| 10:06 | <bigguy> | oh and recording them |
| 10:06 | <bigguy> | ;) |
| 10:07 | <Conaz> | Have them answer questions right out of the documentation ;) |
| 10:08 | <Conaz> | The first question would be a huge weed out question: locate the documentation and paste the url as the answer... |
| 10:09 | <bigguy> | "Can your read?" "Will you read?" "Have you read?" "Did you understand or are you just a stupid waste of a man?" |
| 10:10 | <bigguy> | "Subject: some question having nothing to do with mythtv and it's use |
| 10:10 | <bigguy> | " |
| 10:10 | <bigguy> | "Hello, I'm having driver problems and I can't be arsed to ask the proper people" |
| 10:20 | <Snow-Man> | Speaking of horribly underpowered machines.. |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | A dual 800mhz P3 machine isn't going to be able to keep up with MPEG-4 encoding, is it? |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | not at the default settings |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | (Not that being dual would really help) |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, darn. |
| 10:21 | <Chutt> | thanks for cleaning off relay :p |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Sorry about the lists. :/ |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | I'm gonna change the box out tonight. |
| 10:21 | <Snow-Man> | The new one has a 4G /var, or so. |
| 10:25 | <Snow-Man> | I actually didn't clean it out myself till this morning, the log rotation cleaned up the logs some. |
| 10:28 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 10:29 | <Chutt> | well, cool =) |
| 10:38 | <bigguy> | "I want you to add an equalizer to appease my girlfriend's sensative ears" |
| 10:38 | <bigguy> | "Do it now damnit" |
| 10:38 | <thor> | That one was pretty impressive |
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| 10:40 | <Conaz> | Yes, I thought that was quite the request too |
| 10:43 | <Conaz> | Gotta love those Out of Office replies too |
| 10:45 | <bigguy> | "These are my own opinions and do not reflect upon my employer J Badguy Corp." |
| 10:46 | <Chutt> | that's funny |
| 10:46 | <Chutt> | i just got an ooo reply off list |
| 10:47 | <Conaz> | yup |
| 10:47 | <Conaz> | Hopefully their ooo is smart and will only send you one :) And not one for each post... |
| 10:49 | <Chutt> | well, if it does, someone's off the mailing list |
| 10:51 | <Conaz> | The auto-reply I got had a subject line that I'm pretty sure I hadn't replied to since Friday, very strange |
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| 11:42 | <Chutt> | well, at least valgrind works well |
| 11:42 | <Snow-Man> | I dunno about that. |
| 11:43 | <Snow-Man> | I had issues with it and it uses memory like a son of a bitch last I tried it. |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | of course it does |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | has to keep track of everything |
| 11:44 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm, pvr-250 is only composite/svideo, eh? |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | there's a tuner |
| 11:44 | <Snow-Man> | oh |
| 11:44 | <Snow-Man> | Ok, missed that on the 'includes' list. |
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| 11:45 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm. |
| 11:46 | <Snow-Man> | How much are they? |
| 11:46 | <bigguy> | $100-150 |
| 11:46 | <Snow-Man> | The 350 just has an FM radio receiver added on to it> |
| 11:46 | <Snow-Man> | ? |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | and a decoder |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | neither of which works in linux yet |
| 11:47 | <Snow-Man> | I was about to ask about that. :) |
| 11:47 | <Snow-Man> | Any clue if the decoder has any future w/ mythtv? I'm guessing probably not. |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | it might |
| 11:48 | <Snow-Man> | If you can write stuff into a framebuffer before it goes out to the screen? |
| 11:48 | <Snow-Man> | Post-decoding |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | well |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | mythtv does work with qt-embedded |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | which just displays on a framebuffer |
| 11:48 | <hfb> | If anyone is interested. Via recently posted a new set of drivers and info for the M series epia board, but for some reason it is gone now. It can be found here though. http://www.retel.dk/downloads/clexf40028.zip |
| 11:48 | <Chutt> | hfb, they took them down intentionally, and they're really not useful yet |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | soon, though |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | snowman, anyway, it should be possible to make the -350 act as a generic framebuffer device |
| 11:49 | <hfb> | Why did they take them down? Should I ask then why they put them up in the first place? |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | of course, you'll _only_ be able to do mpeg-2 video, not the other mythtv formats |
| 11:49 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: And still do the decoding? |
| 11:49 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, point. |
| 11:49 | <Snow-Man> | Well, unless you do the decoding yourself. |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | right, but displaying to the framebuffer'll be fairly slow |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | hfb, they didn't mean for em to be up yet =) |
| 11:50 | <Snow-Man> | hrm, doh. |
| 11:50 | <Snow-Man> | Well, seeing as how the frontend probably isn't going to be on phoenix anyway I'll probably just start with the 250 and worry about the 350 later if I get interested in it. |
| 11:50 | <hfb> | Chutt: The funny thing is that they still have a link listed on their webpage. Obviously a dead link. :) |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | Is the MPEG2 format much better than MPEG-4? |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | errr |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | s/better/bigger/ |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | snowman, not really. mpeg4 is meant for lower bitrates |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | ah, then, yes |
| 11:51 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm. |
| 11:52 | <Snow-Man> | Does it look better? :) |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | not really |
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| 11:53 | <odine> | can anyone help perhaps? running debian unstable.. grabed the latest .debs for mythtv and when i run the /etc/cron.daily/mythtv script it give me an insert error when trying to fill the database? any ideas why? |
| 11:53 | <hfb> | Chutt: Anything else you'd like to pass along with regards to the status of these drivers? :) |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | hfb, i'd really just wait a little bit |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | they _are_ going to release em eventually |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | as far as i know, at least |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | odine: Shit happens. |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | thor, hi mr. no destructor =) |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | odine: Blame the people getting the TV guide data. |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | snowman, it does depend on the insert error |
| 11:54 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Well, true, but my guess is it's just the conflicting entry for timeslot thing. |
| 11:54 | <hfb> | Chutt: I know, but waiting is the hard part. |
| 11:55 | <Snow-Man> | Since I get that shit every night myself. :) |
| 11:55 | <thor> | Chutt, destructors, those are WAY over rated |
| 11:55 | <thor> | what I do? |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | hfb, still, you're going to have to wait until support gets added to stuff like libavcodec |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | thor, i'm committing a fix in a bit, no worries |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | MythThemedDialog's leaking the 'theme' |
| 11:55 | <thor> | ah |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | VideoTree's leaking the 'video_tree_data' |
| 11:56 | <thor> | ahh |
| 11:56 | <hfb> | Chutt: I know. Thanks. :) |
| 11:56 | <Snow-Man> | Microcenter apparently doesn't carry the PVR-250.. |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | and GenericTree doesn't clean up after itself -- am i right that all those QPtrLists are the same, so i only need to clear out one of em? |
| 11:56 | <Snow-Man> | They have the 'WinTV PVR TV Tuner' for $219, and the 'WinTV PVR USB' for $199 |
| 11:56 | <odine> | Snow-Man: so nothing that can be really done about it then? i figured maybe it was something with mysql.... |
| 11:56 | <Chutt> | the biggest leak was in the inetcomms class, though, this is all small stuff |
| 11:57 | <Snow-Man> | odine: Well, what's the error, specifically? |
| 11:57 | <thor> | Chutt, I don't know ... will look |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | snowman, the 'wintv pvr' is a different beastie, and doesn't work in linux |
| 11:57 | <odine> | Snow-Man: can i flood a bit in here erm? |
| 11:57 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: It's more expensive than the pvr-250 anyway apparently. |
| 11:57 | <Snow-Man> | odine: The real error should only be a line or two at the bottom. |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | right |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | odine, paste one of the errors here |
| 11:58 | <odine> | well the last 2 lines are: Database error was: Duplicate entry '1019-20030616220000' for key 1 |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | yeah, you can pretty much safely ignore that |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | if you really want to fix it, edit your xmltv config file in ~/.mythtv |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | and delete the duplicate channel entries |
| 11:59 | <rkulagow> | snowman: try circuit city or office max. $149 |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | it's slightly cheaper at amazon, i believe |
| 11:59 | <odine> | ya i think id like to fix it... no guide information at all gets listed.. and the mythfilldatabase just keeps looping |
| 11:59 | <Snow-Man> | I'm amazed pricewatch hasn't got it. |
| 11:59 | <rkulagow> | also, my microcenter had some in the returns section. |
| 11:59 | <Snow-Man> | rkulagow: Yeah, I might go hunting through there. |
| 11:59 | <Chutt> | odine, it's not looping, look at the diffenent dates. |
| 12:00 | <rkulagow> | but mine was charging $100 (used), when you can get them new (after rebate) from other places. |
| 12:00 | <odine> | Chutt: hrmm.. duh thanks for pointing that out... stupid error on my half there... well thanks guys ;) |
| 12:00 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm. |
| 12:00 | <thor> | Chutt, each node owns it's subnodes, and has two pointers to it (my_subnodes, my_ordered_subnodes) |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 12:01 | <Chutt> | i'm just clearing out my_subnodes, so it should be safe |
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| 12:02 | <thor> | thanks |
| 12:03 | <thor> | btw, there are two so that bits of the tree can be re-ordered only as needed (otherwise pushing the 1 key would take a long time) |
| 12:03 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:07 | <thor> | This may explain why my Dylan Thomas quote has never appeared on the console |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | which quote? |
| 12:08 | <thor> | Rage, rage against the dying of the light |
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| 12:09 | <thor> | ah no, that's the ManagedTreeList destructor |
| 12:10 | <Snow-Man> | You know, it's an odd question of if it'd be entirely legal for a cable company to use MythTV I think. |
| 12:10 | <Snow-Man> | At least, if they made modifications to it. |
| 12:10 | <Snow-Man> | That'd be kind of interesting though. |
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| 12:13 | <Chutt> | thor, mind if i remove that quote? =) |
| 12:13 | <thor> | no, that's fine |
| 12:14 | <thor> | =) |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | it's showing up now |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | at least in mythvideo |
| 12:14 | <thor> | yeah! |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | and that class is leak free (now), far as i can tell |
| 12:14 | <Snow-Man> | bah! Chutt's putting the pressure on us! Censorship! |
| 12:14 | <thor> | double yeah! |
| 12:14 | <thor> | Speaking of legality ... |
| 12:14 | <rkulagow> | rage, rage against the machine that is chutt! |
| 12:15 | <thor> | have been fiddling with a "MythDVD" |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 12:15 | <thor> | playing, but also ripping and re-encoding with transcode |
| 12:15 | <thor> | which is not terrifically useful without libdecss |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:15 | <thor> | doesn't really work very well yet |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | oh, i do like the "POSSIBLE MEMORY LEAK" comments in mythvideo |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | think those are moegreen's, though =) |
| 12:16 | <thor> | yup |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | there, mythvideo can be a plugin now |
| 12:16 | <thor> | so, how are we on docs that say "install transcode and Oogle, both of which really want libdecss ? |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | thor, i probably can't redistribute all that stuff |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | yah, that's fine |
| 12:17 | <thor> | cool |
| 12:17 | <thor> | makes up for loosing the Welsh literature |
| 12:17 | <thor> | =) |
| 12:24 | <moegreen> | Chutt: was it a leak? heh |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | no problems, though |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | just fixed everything in mythvideo |
| 12:25 | <Chutt> | with that last commit |
| 12:25 | <moegreen> | cool |
| 12:25 | <moegreen> | :) |
| 12:29 | <thor> | how did mythweb "mess up" autoconf ? |
| 12:29 | <thor> | this is obviously not *the* Ken Thompson |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:32 | <Conaz> | thor: I almost replied to that one, but where does one even begin... |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | moegreen, updated cvs lately? |
| 12:34 | <thor> | Conaz, exactly ... step 1, go to the bank, withdraw all your money, and buy a clue |
| 12:36 | <moegreen> | Chutt: no I haven't recently - was going to do it in a little while. |
| 12:36 | <Chutt> | just wanted to make sure you're ok with my changes to mythweather and the other stuff |
| 12:37 | <moegreen> | ok, I'll look at it |
| 12:38 | <moegreen> | Chutt: is it mainly the stuff in main.cpp? |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | all the plugin junk |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, hey, did that fix last night actually work? |
| 12:43 | <thor> | woo hoo ... the market is cranking! |
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| 12:46 | <rkulagow> | chutt: haven't had a chance to check yet. will let you know in a little bit. |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | ok, thanks |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | there we go |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | mythmusic and mythgame are all that's left =) |
| 12:49 | <Conaz> | quite the productive weekend |
| 12:50 | <thor> | amazing, frankly |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | thor, moegreen, the intent is to eventually stop using the QAccel stuff for keybindings, and use keyPressEvents instead |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | i'll eventually convert all the older stuff, but could you keep that in mind for new code? |
| 12:51 | <thor> | yeah |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | it'll make more configurable keybindings possible |
| 12:53 | <thor> | should we just start with a dummy function along the lines of if(e->key() == keyBindings("key_space")) |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | i'm probably going to have a translation function somewhere |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | take a key, translate it into an action |
| 12:54 | <thor> | k |
| 12:54 | <Chutt> | then the keyPressEvents will act on the actions, not the keys |
| 12:54 | <thor> | yup |
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| 13:51 | <thor> | rkulagow, you around? |
| 13:54 | <rkulagow> | yes |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | leaks abound! |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 13:55 | <thor> | just went out and bought fumbling towards ecstasy, which someone said had CD extra tracks on it. |
| 13:55 | <thor> | Chutt, mythmusic? |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 13:55 | <rkulagow> | chutt: i think i told you that. barenaked ladies was the other one? |
| 13:55 | <rkulagow> | duh, thor, not chutt. |
| 13:56 | <thor> | rkulagow, seems to be ripping just fine ... can you describe what your problem is exactly? |
| 13:56 | <rkulagow> | let me get it. hold on please. |
| 13:56 | <thor> | Chutt, into and out of edit playlist? |
| 13:56 | <thor> | or just all over ? |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | all_music and all_playlists weren't getting deleted |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | not _really_ leaks |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | before, at least |
| 13:57 | <thor> | ah |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | there's also stuff like the decoders |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | that get allocated once |
| 13:57 | <Chutt> | and never get deallocated |
| 13:57 | <thor> | ah |
| 13:58 | <rkulagow> | thor: d'oh! it's not FTE that has the cd extra, it's "sarah mclachlan: the freedom sessions". sorry about that. |
| 13:58 | <thor> | oh |
| 13:58 | <thor> | well, suppose I could increase my collection |
| 13:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:58 | <thor> | as long as your sure on the title |
| 13:59 | <rkulagow> | "includes quicktime 2.0 for windows and macintosh computers" |
| 13:59 | <rkulagow> | it's pretty old. |
| 13:59 | <thor> | does it say that on the outside cover? |
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| 14:00 | <rkulagow> | it's on the back: "don't play track one. track one will play silence or static on audio cd players." track 1 is also listed as "cdrom multimedia preentation" |
| 14:00 | <rkulagow> | on the back cover. |
| 14:00 | <thor> | ok ... |
| 14:00 | <thor> | time for another walk while come code builds |
| 14:00 | <thor> | some |
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| 15:28 | <Chutt> | hey thor? |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | nevermind, i cheated |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | was going to ask if the music settings stuff needed everything loaded |
| 15:50 | <thor> | setttings stuff? |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | the config screens for it |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | but, i cheated and took the 'scan music' off of there |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | so they don't need the song data loaded |
| 15:51 | <thor> | got you |
| 15:51 | <thor> | amazon sucks |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | there we go |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | only mythgame's left, now |
| 15:55 | <thor> | wow |
| 15:55 | <Conaz> | Chutt: you are a machine! |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | slow day at work |
| 15:56 | <Conaz> | Always nice to have those |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | and this really is a lot easier than i thought it would be |
| 15:56 | <thor> | you see any deep flaws in MythThemedDialog ? |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 15:56 | <Conaz> | glad to hear that |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | do you want to convert some of the existing themed dialogs to use it? |
| 15:57 | <thor> | I was thinking |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | should reduce the amount of code in other places a bit |
| 15:57 | <thor> | it's more straightforward than "Moegreen's way" (although all it does is automate all the work he did) |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | well, yeah |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | just does it all for you =) |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | anyway, please bang on mythmusic a bit |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | i'm not entirely certain i didn't cause any problems by fixing those leaks =) |
| 15:58 | <thor> | ok ... |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | if you want to run _just_ mythmusic now, you have to do 'mythfrontend music' |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | or 'mythfrontend mythmusic' |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | which'll just load the music plugin |
| 16:00 | <thor> | updating ... |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | all right |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | time to de-leakify mythgame |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | which, well, is fairly scary |
| 16:00 | <thor> | last on the list =) |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | which is why i left it until last =) |
| 16:00 | <thor> | thought it might be |
| 16:11 | <thor> | rkulagow, no luck finding the CD on foot, just ordered it from Amazon. Fix before too long. |
| 16:14 | <rkulagow> | thor: ok |
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| 16:23 | <Chutt> | oh good |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | livetv -> epg still works ok |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | i hadn't tested that at all =) |
| 16:24 | <thor> | there must be *something* that's well broken ? |
| 16:24 | <Conaz> | not to worry, I'm sure there are plenty of testers out there right now |
| 16:25 | <Conaz> | and I'm sure they won't be shy about what is broken |
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| 16:49 | <monkeyBox> | Help! For some reason, when viewing TV from a separate frontend, the audio gets out of sync and produces a strange echo effect.. Has anyone else experienced this? what can I do to solve it? |
| 16:51 | <Conaz> | Live TV or Recordings? Both? |
| 16:51 | <monkeyBox> | LiveTV, haven't tried a recording yet... |
| 16:51 | <Conaz> | How about running on the same box? |
| 16:51 | <monkeyBox> | doesn't happen on the local (backend) machine. |
| 16:53 | <monkeyBox> | I'm connected over a 100Mbit network |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | try turning off/on the jitter reduction and/or aggressive soundcard buffering stuff |
| 16:53 | <Chutt> | those can hurt stuff sometimes |
| 16:54 | <Chutt> | on the remote frontend, that is |
| 16:54 | <monkeyBox> | ok I'll try it.. thanks |
| 16:55 | <monkeyBox> | What's experimental A/V sync?? (in the playback settings)? |
| 16:55 | <Chutt> | experimental a/v sync code =) |
| 16:55 | <Chutt> | basically, an enhancement to the jitter reduction stuff |
| 16:56 | <monkeyBox> | hmm.. I'll guess I'll try it if nothing else works.. thanks |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't enable it |
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| 16:56 | <monkeyBox> | oh ok |
| 16:59 | <monkeyBox> | hmm. I have jitter reduction and aggressive soundcard buffering both disabled.. enabling aggressive soundcard buffering didn't work... I'm trying it with jitter reduction enabled right now... |
| 16:59 | <Chutt> | otherwise, i don't know what it could be |
| 17:00 | <monkeyBox> | what does jitter reduction technically do? any idea? |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | tries to more accurately sleep until the next frame should be shown |
| 17:00 | <monkeyBox> | damn whatever it does it didn't help either :-( |
| 17:06 | <monkeyBox> | this is stil pretty cool though... I'm able to watch TV right here on my laptop :) |
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| 17:08 | <Conaz_> | been enlightening as always |
| 17:08 | <mechou> | names |
| 17:09 | <Conaz_> | time to head home |
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| 18:31 | <thor> | Chutt, you know a lot of people are going to complain, "Hey, I can't run mythX without the backend running" =) |
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| 18:32 | <thor> | eww, pure virtual function called |
| 18:33 | <thor> | f'ing SDL |
| 18:37 | <techniq> | can someone help me with getting my line-in to mute |
| 18:37 | <techniq> | no matter what i've tried, i can't get my audio set back up again (had it setup, but formatted recently and installed mythtv9) |
| 18:37 | <thor> | techniq, OSS or ALSA (and which mixer, and which soundcard) |
| 18:37 | <techniq> | also |
| 18:37 | <techniq> | alsa, sblive |
| 18:38 | <techniq> | used kmix, alsamixer(gui), and the commands for alsa |
| 18:38 | <thor> | and your getting delayed sound? |
| 18:38 | <thor> | you're |
| 18:38 | <techniq> | now i've got it where it echos |
| 18:38 | <rkulagow> | techniq: take a look at section 7.2 of the HOWTO |
| 18:38 | <techniq> | i've got it now where it won't turn off (has to be the raw line in audio, which shows to be muted in all 3) |
| 18:39 | <techniq> | i've ran through all of it |
| 18:39 | <thor> | tried O'Gain muted? |
| 18:39 | <techniq> | http://techniq.homelinux.com:8000/mute.jpg |
| 18:39 | <techniq> | if i mute igain, it mutes |
| 18:40 | <thor> | ok, that sounds good |
| 18:40 | <techniq> | but then i never hear anything |
| 18:40 | <thor> | igain up, but muted |
| 18:40 | <thor> | ? |
| 18:40 | <techniq> | yeah |
| 18:40 | <techniq> | its 100% |
| 18:41 | <thor> | I can't be more specific, as I don't have any SB hardware |
| 18:41 | <thor> | haven't played with it |
| 18:41 | <techniq> | i had it working fine before i formatted, with .8.. i dunno |
| 18:42 | <techniq> | i'm gonna compile the new .21 kernel, maybe it will help |
| 18:44 | <rkulagow> | techniq: i doubt it. as i said, did you look at 7.2 of the HOWTO? |
| 18:44 | <techniq> | yeah |
| 18:45 | <techniq> | i typed in all those commands as they are |
| 18:45 | <rkulagow> | and when you run the amixer commands what happens? |
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| 18:46 | <techniq> | without the settings (as it just run amixer)? |
| 18:47 | <techniq> | just running amixer spits out about 30 lines of info |
| 18:50 | <thor> | Chutt, uhm ... this is messed up =) |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | what'd i do? |
| 18:50 | <thor> | is audiooutput inherited by anything? |
| 18:50 | <Chutt> | audiooutputoss |
| 18:51 | <thor> | oh, I think I messed up my update |
| 18:51 | <thor> | in mythmusic ? |
| 18:51 | <Chutt> | err, no |
| 18:51 | <Chutt> | sorry, thought you were talking about mythtv |
| 18:52 | <Chutt> | oh, shoot |
| 18:52 | <Chutt> | is the audiooutput class in libmyth conflicting with the audiooutput class in mythmusic? |
| 18:52 | <thor> | I dunno, but audiooutput->initialize() is having problems =) |
| 18:53 | <thor> | hang on, I'm still bt'ing through stuff |
| 18:53 | <Chutt> | make sure it's using the audioouptut class in mythmusic, not libmyth |
| 18:54 | <thor> | is initialize pure virtual in libmyth |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | gimme a sec |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | i'll fix that |
| 18:54 | <thor> | k |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | should work now |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | might have to rename the file |
| 18:57 | <thor> | update just music? |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:58 | <thor> | update, make distclean, ./configure ...., make |
| 18:58 | <thor> | ... |
| 18:58 | <Chutt> | should be able to just compile |
| 18:58 | <Chutt> | no make clean |
| 18:58 | <thor> | too late |
| 18:59 | <thor> | I should have a little ticker somewhere that tells me how many times I've recompiled goom |
| 18:59 | <thor> | =) |
| 19:04 | <thor> | ah, that's better |
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| 19:07 | <thor> | hmmm copying playlists seems a bit wonky |
| 19:08 | <thor> | plue disappearing keypresses |
| 19:08 | <thor> | plus |
| 19:08 | <thor> | I'll osrt it out |
| 19:08 | <thor> | sort |
| 19:08 | <thor> | (and learn to type) |
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| 19:14 | <thor> | somehow the infoPressed() and numberPressed() signals are not making it out of listview |
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| 19:38 | <Chutt> | any luck? |
| 19:39 | <thor> | yeah, |
| 19:39 | <thor> | the problem is when I added those new TreeItem types |
| 19:39 | <thor> | fixing it now |
| 19:39 | <thor> | I don't think anyone's been saving playlists for a while |
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| 19:40 | <Chutt> | sure? |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | seems to work for me |
| 19:40 | <Chutt> | i think, at least |
| 19:41 | <thor> | copy active to new? |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | never do that, really |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | err |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | nm |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | yeah, that was working last night |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 19:46 | <thor> | dinner break, then I'll get it sorted |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | now it's not |
| 19:46 | <Chutt> | weird. |
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| 20:19 | <TheAsp> | Uhh, what happened to fullscreen? |
| 20:19 | <TheAsp> | err... not fullscreen mode :P |
| 20:20 | <TheAsp> | is it going to come back? |
| 20:20 | <TheAsp> | or is it gone for good? |
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| 20:25 | <Chutt> | it's gone |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | there's no need for it now |
| 20:25 | <TheAsp> | uhh |
| 20:26 | <TheAsp> | there isnt? |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 20:26 | * TheAsp | looks at his desktop without tv in the corner |
| 20:26 | <TheAsp> | hmmm |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | run everything at a smaller resolution, then |
| 20:26 | <TheAsp> | the gui? |
| 20:26 | <TheAsp> | the whole gui? |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | everything. |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | mythtv |
| 20:27 | <TheAsp> | 21:26:30 <synthpunk> why the hell would they do that |
| 20:27 | * TheAsp | agrees |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | hrm? |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | the video playback is the same as the mythtv gui resolution |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | it runs in the same window |
| 20:27 | <TheAsp> | oh, well thats sorta neat. |
| 20:27 | <TheAsp> | but a real pain :) |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | if you don't want it fullscreen, lower the resolution in the setup |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | only if you're stupid |
| 20:27 | <TheAsp> | I am stupid? |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 20:27 | <TheAsp> | Gee thanks chutt. |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | i'm sorry i spent my entire saturday improving the codebase |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | i'll try not to do that in the future |
| 20:28 | <TheAsp> | Not like i've wasted my time too... |
| 20:28 | <TheAsp> | Ask a simple question, get called stupid. |
| 20:30 | <TheAsp> | Why would i want it not to be able to be full screen then? |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | why would you want to run the UI at one resolution and the video at another? |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | because i want to do other stuff while watching tv? |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | and sometimes i want it to be full screen when im not doing other stuff |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | so go into the settings and switch resolutions |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | it's not exactly difficult to do so |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | there used to be a key for that .... |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | no, there didn't |
| 20:31 | <TheAsp> | f |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | you couldn't change the UI resolution with the f key |
| 20:32 | <TheAsp> | but you could change the window size :) |
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| 20:39 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | there's just no longer a distinction between the ui and video playback |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | hell, i'm even adding a toggle for it to be in a regular window with a border and stuff |
| 20:40 | <bline> | and hide the mouse or not? |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | hide it |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | non resizeable |
| 20:41 | <ahbritto> | Wahoo! Thank you! |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | but it'll have a border, which some people seem to want |
| 20:42 | <ahbritto> | I use a monitor, not my TV. .. |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | so do i when i'm working on it |
| 20:42 | <ahbritto> | And gnome... |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | just have a whole virtual desktop dedicated to it |
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| 20:43 | <TheAsp> | i've had 0 issues with myth and gnome |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | i wonder how i broke the playlist stuff |
| 20:44 | <ahbritto> | I've notice fastforward stutters even when the card can handle it. It this a known issue? |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | what, holding down fastforward, get snippits of audio while it's going? |
| 20:45 | <ahbritto> | I have sticky on, and at x1.5 and x2 it stutters picture and audio. |
| 20:46 | <ahbritto> | Running 0.9.1.. |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | it's not supposed to play back smooth |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | it's just seeking forward every so often |
| 20:47 | <ahbritto> | It could (hardware/cpu wise). |
| 20:48 | <ahbritto> | I have mistakenly played video at the wrong rate, and seen it quite soomth, that is. |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | right |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | it's not even attempting to do that, here |
| 20:49 | <ahbritto> | Future feature? |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | not one i'm planning on, no |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | i do accept patches, though :p |
| 20:49 | <ahbritto> | I was looking at the source for the first time yesterday. |
| 20:50 | <ahbritto> | I was considering dpms and ivtv bit rate patches. |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | i'm not going to do anything with the ivtv stuff until there's a real api to do so |
| 20:50 | <ahbritto> | bline said you wanted the interface to stablize before doing ... |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | right |
| 20:51 | <ahbritto> | It would be nice if there was a list of things in progress, on hold, and to do. To make it clear to someone who wants |
| 20:51 | <ahbritto> | to help. |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | just listen in on here |
| 20:52 | <ahbritto> | :) |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | and that'll be everything in progress |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | there's lots of stuff that random people have said they're going to do |
| 20:52 | <Chutt> | but that never happens |
| 20:53 | <ahbritto> | I've contributed some doc to rkulagow, I will look further at the code base, but I don't know if I'll be doing coding yet. |
| 20:53 | <Chutt> | so i'd be hesitant to put up an official list for stuff like that |
| 20:53 | <ahbritto> | ok |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | if you're looking for something to write |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | a menu widget for the OSD would be excellent |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | it'd get rid of most of the key bindings in tv mode, make it simpler all 'round |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | well, not get rid of them, as it'd be best to keep them, but it'd lower the number of keys required to use more features |
| 21:04 | <ahbritto> | My background is Gnome, learning another toolset is too resource intensive right now. :( |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | this wouldn't be any toolset :p |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | just the internal osd code |
| 21:05 | <ahbritto> | What primatives do you use to draw? |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | just have a couple simple objects -- images, text, boxes |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | the osd has to stay fairly simple, else it starts eating up CPU time |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | since it has to get copied to the video so often |
| 21:07 | <ahbritto> | I don't have much time, but perhaps I can dedicate a full day or two of programming. Let me get more familiar with |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | yeah, no matter |
| 21:08 | <ahbritto> | the code base first and then pick a project. |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | that's just something i'm wishing someone would contribute =) |
| 21:08 | <ahbritto> | I can probably do a menu thing in a day or two. I'm pretty fast with very few bugs. |
| 21:08 | <Chutt> | certainly -- it should be really easy |
| 21:09 | <ahbritto> | But, I might want to work on things I find painful to use first. |
| 21:09 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 21:09 | <Chutt> | of course =) |
| 21:09 | <ahbritto> | :) |
| 21:11 | <ahbritto> | Currently, I hate needing to use the keyboard, and I don't have a remote. |
| 21:11 | <Chutt> | mouse control's not really going to happen easily |
| 21:11 | <ahbritto> | I also dislike the lack of progress when the rebuffering is occurring. |
| 21:12 | <ahbritto> | Lack of feedback that is. |
| 21:12 | <Chutt> | could probably get rid of the need to pause quite so long, there, too |
| 21:13 | <ahbritto> | Actually, the web interface is very mouse driven. |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | right, but the rest of the stuff isn't, and it's not written for a mouse in mind |
| 21:13 | <ahbritto> | yes. |
| 21:13 | <Chutt> | and would be quite difficult to add, i'd think |
| 21:13 | <thor> | Chutt, there be some scope for a MythDesktop |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | scope? |
| 21:14 | <thor> | usefulness |
| 21:14 | <thor> | separate app |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | whaddya mean by desktop? |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | right |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | ben bucksch sorta has started that |
| 21:14 | <ahbritto> | A few buttons on the window would be nice: pause, play, FF, REW, cycle through channels. |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | but he's using kylix |
| 21:14 | <thor> | Qt, with some exisitng widgets, mouse drag and drop for playlists, connect to different backends, etc. |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | aye |
| 21:15 | <thor> | not that I've started it or anything |
| 21:15 | <ahbritto> | I also although I don't understand how buffering works yet, I thought It didn't need to be cleared on channel change. |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | not something i'd write, though |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | ahbritto, it clears it because that was the easiest way to handle the channel change |
| 21:15 | <thor> | but if someone was really clever, they could make it compile under Qt/Windows as well |
| 21:15 | <Chutt> | that was something else i was promised a patch for =) |
| 21:16 | <Chutt> | thor, i'm sure the current stuff'd compile under qt/windows with appropriate sound/video output code |
| 21:16 | <ahbritto> | So, my plan is to study the source a bit and see which itch is most productive to stratch... |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | i think i'm all caught up on patches now |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | aside from ramon/leandro's tuning stuff, which i'm still holding off on |
| 21:17 | <Chutt> | thor, i think my mem leak stuff broke the playlists |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 21:18 | <thor> | yeah, I think so ... just solving one other thing then I'll sort it out |
| 21:18 | <Snow-Man> | ok, I'm thinking about fucking with realy. |
| 21:18 | <Snow-Man> | err, relay too. |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | snowman, how long do you think it'll take? |
| 21:19 | <Snow-Man> | Probably take me another 10-20 minutes at least to finish setting up the new machine then another 30 minutes or so to put it in place. |
| 21:19 | <ahbritto> | Chutt, this is probably kind of late to bring up, but have you consider moving to the Boehm GC? |
| 21:19 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 21:20 | <ahbritto> | I find myself much more productive with it and no more memory leaks. |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | the leaks i'm talking about are because someone *cough* doesn't write destructors all that often =) |
| 21:20 | <ahbritto> | heh. |
| 21:21 | <thor> | Yeah moegreen! |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | and most of em didn't matter, since they were only long term leaks that would only have come up now |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | ie, single allocation stuff |
| 21:21 | <bline> | valgrind is nice |
| 21:21 | <thor> | My tilde key was broken |
| 21:21 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's what i've been using |
| 21:21 | <ahbritto> | I like the GC because overall it means less code and less code is less errors and less programming time. |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | except for all the random xft/qt 'leaks' |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | paging through those got old =) |
| 21:22 | <bline> | didn't the people that wrote kde write valgrind? |
| 21:22 | <Chutt> | it's a kde guy, yah |
| 21:23 | <thor> | hmmm ... deleakified mmusic does not like some visualizers |
| 21:23 | <Chutt> | which ones? |
| 21:23 | <Chutt> | goom and synaesthesia are ok here |
| 21:23 | <bline> | I would think he would have added a workaround for qt stuff then |
| 21:24 | <Chutt> | bline, yeah, i dunno |
| 21:24 | <thor> | Goom |
| 21:24 | <thor> | dead every time |
| 21:24 | <thor> | if that's the only one |
| 21:24 | <thor> | gdb'ing |
| 21:25 | <thor> | Goom::resize() and then some SDL stuff |
| 21:26 | <thor> | all the way down to X11_CreateWindow() |
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| 21:28 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | hrm hrm hrm |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | might be the putenv |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | probably is, in fact |
| 21:29 | <thor_> | this may be naive, but should we be calling a CreateWindow() ? |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | where? |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 21:30 | <thor_> | no, just from bt |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | no, it shouldn't be |
| 21:30 | <Chutt> | but, i don't know how sdl works internally |
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| 21:37 | <Chutt> | the whole SDL displaying to a random window thing's a nasty hack, anyway |
| 21:38 | <Chutt> | thor, can you try current CVS with that crash? |
| 21:38 | <Chutt> | erk |
| 21:38 | <Chutt> | one sec |
| 21:39 | <Chutt> | ok, now =) |
| 21:39 | <thor_> | distclean? |
| 21:40 | <Chutt> | shouldn't need to, long as it recompiles mythgoom.o and synaesthesia.o |
| 21:40 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:40 | <Chutt> | i just changed the putenv to a setenv |
| 21:40 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I wanna put a halfway recent kernel on relay first, so it'll take a bit longer to prep. |
| 21:41 | <thor_> | segfault |
| 21:41 | <thor_> | bt'ing |
| 21:41 | <thor_> | same ... and yes I did a make install |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 21:42 | <thor_> | let me do a whole compile recycle |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | and this was working before? |
| 21:43 | <thor_> | definitely |
| 21:43 | <thor_> | with that start out as blank bit |
| 21:43 | <thor_> | "Blank" |
| 21:44 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | you're using 1.2.x of sdl, right? |
| 21:47 | <thor_> | 1.2.5 |
| 21:48 | <thor_> | same thing after a distclean and compile, you want bt |
| 21:49 | <Chutt> | is your SDL compiled for debug? |
| 21:49 | <Chutt> | like, line number in X11_CreateWindow where it dies? =) |
| 21:49 | <thor_> | no, but it could be =) |
| 21:49 | <Chutt> | that'd probably be best, i think |
| 21:49 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 21:50 | <Chutt> | it should be going through X11_CreateWindow, though |
| 21:50 | <Chutt> | from what i can tell with the source |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | ah, it is (SDL --enable-debug is apparently the default) |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | so where's it dyin? =) |
| 21:51 | <thor_> | SDL_x11video.c:713 |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | SDL_ReallocFormat()? |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | can i get the bt? |
| 21:52 | <thor_> | http://www.sigvaldason.com/mmcrash.txt |
| 21:53 | <Chutt> | mind doing it as a bt full? |
| 21:53 | <thor_> | ok |
| 21:54 | <thor_> | http://www.sigvaldason.com/mmcrash.txt |
| 21:55 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | are you still in gdb? |
| 21:56 | <thor_> | yup |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | print SDL_Window |
| 21:56 | <thor_> | No symbol |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | try SDL_windowid |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | nope |
| 21:57 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 21:57 | <Chutt> | can you get an environment variable from gdb? |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | ? |
| 21:57 | <thor_> | you're asking me? |
| 21:57 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 21:57 | <Chutt> | do you know if you can =) |
| 21:58 | <thor_> | I barely remember that the debugger is called gdb |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | 'show env' |
| 21:59 | <thor_> | lots there |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | what's the SDL_WINDOWID var say? |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | show env SDL_WINDOWID |
| 21:59 | <thor_> | not defined |
| 22:00 | <Chutt> | allllrighty |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 22:03 | <Chutt> | i don't know :( |
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| 22:04 | <Chutt> | like, i know why it's dying there, vis isn't a valid pointer |
| 22:04 | <thor_> | time for native visualizers ? |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | but |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | naw, Qt's too slow |
| 22:05 | <Chutt> | in mythgoom.cpp, after the setenv, can you add: cout << getenv("SDL_WINDOWID") << endl; |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | and the same after the call to SDL_Init() |
| 22:06 | <CaptMidnight> | I am having a mythfrontend problem with today's cvs where if I schedule a recording the front end locks up after asking if I want to watch while recording, has anyone seen this type of problem? |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | captmidnight, nope |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | debug it. |
| 22:06 | <CaptMidnight> | what would be a good way to debug it? |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 22:06 | <Chutt> | gdb, most likely |
| 22:06 | <CaptMidnight> | it doesn't segmentation fault or anything along those lines |
| 22:06 | <CaptMidnight> | it just hangs |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | what's that have to do with it? |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | hanging is just as easy to debug as a segfault with gdb.. |
| 22:07 | <thor_> | after SDL_Init inside the condition ? |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | naw, outside of it |
| 22:07 | <thor_> | right (duh!) |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | unless you're getting that error message? |
| 22:08 | <thor_> | no |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | ok, didn't think so |
| 22:08 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, attempting to build a kernel. Let's hope my box doesn't fall over. |
| 22:09 | <thor_> | both work |
| 22:09 | <thor_> | both are the same |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 22:09 | <thor_> | both are 35652136 |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | shoot, sorry, wanted to print out winid |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | as well |
| 22:09 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 22:10 | <thor_> | just that long int (winid) |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | well |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | need the putenv and winid |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | together, since the window id's going to change |
| 22:11 | <thor_> | all four same number |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 22:12 | <thor_> | in fact, same number as last run |
| 22:12 | <thor_> | 35652136 |
| 22:12 | <thor_> | which I'm sure is of no consequence =) |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 22:12 | <Chutt> | doesn't matter, really |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 22:13 | <thor_> | ah ha |
| 22:13 | <thor_> | solved the playlist saving to new |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 22:13 | <thor_> | you and your darned destructors |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | can you try adding: show() to the end of MainVisual's constructor? |
| 22:14 | <thor_> | just show() |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | like |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | my only thought is maybe that's not a valid window id |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | or something |
| 22:14 | <thor_> | ah, Qt bit |
| 22:15 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 22:15 | <thor_> | nope |
| 22:15 | <thor_> | ah, hang on no make install that time |
| 22:15 | <thor_> | still nope |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | ok, remove that show() |
| 22:16 | <thor_> | k |
| 22:16 | <thor_> | and put one in goom stuff somewhere ? |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | line 316 of mainvisual.cpp |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | vis = fact->create(parent, winid); |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | make that vis = fact->create(parent, gContext->GetMainWindow()->WinId()); |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | err, winId() |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | sorry |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 22:18 | <Chutt> | no, that's not it |
| 22:18 | <thor_> | invalid use of .... |
| 22:19 | <thor_> | undefined type `struct MythMainWindow' |
| 22:19 | <thor_> | forward declaration |
| 22:19 | <thor_> | blah blah blah |
| 22:20 | <Chutt> | 'sec |
| 22:24 | <Chutt> | do you have it set for just goom, or is it random? |
| 22:24 | <thor_> | just goom now |
| 22:24 | <Chutt> | http://ijr.dnsalias.org/music.diff |
| 22:24 | <Chutt> | try that tiny little patch |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | shouldn't show anything if it works, but i'm hoping it still doesn't crash |
| 22:25 | <Chutt> | doesn't crash still, rather |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | got some failures |
| 22:26 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | that was against clean cvs |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 22:26 | <Chutt> | it's just what i asked last done right |
| 22:27 | <thor_> | cvs is creaky |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | going to put that playlists bugfix in there soon? =) |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | just deleted it |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | rm, update, patch |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | it's a one line fix though |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | runs! |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | spoke too soon |
| 22:28 | <thor_> | Seg fault |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | bt? |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | same thing? |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | looks like |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | damn |
| 22:29 | <Chutt> | how hard is it for you to recompile sdl? |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | just time |
| 22:29 | <thor_> | np |
| 22:30 | <thor_> | no, different spot |
| 22:30 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 22:31 | <thor_> | http://www.sigvaldason.com/mmcrash2.txt |
| 22:34 | <Chutt> | where'd it die? |
| 22:35 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I think relay is about ready. |
| 22:37 | <thor_> | where it's die? |
| 22:37 | <thor_> | select_zoom_filter() ? |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:37 | <thor_> | played a few seconds |
| 22:38 | <thor_> | but I didn't hit any other keys or anything |
| 22:39 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 22:39 | <Chutt> | i'm stumped |
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| 22:40 | <thor_> | crappy goom code |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | well |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | synaesthesia should die the same |
| 22:40 | <Chutt> | well, without that patch i posted |
| 22:41 | <thor_> | it's fine with the patch |
| 22:41 | <thor_> | if I back it out ... |
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| 22:42 | <Snow-Man> | Alright |
| 22:43 | <Snow-Man> | I think I'm gonna take down sendmail on the old relay. |
| 22:43 | <Chutt> | mailing list going down? |
| 22:43 | <Snow-Man> | Then I need to copy the queue over, shut down the old box, shut down the new box, and move the box into place. |
| 22:43 | <thor_> | segfault on syneathesia as well |
| 22:43 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: That ok? |
| 22:44 | <Chutt> | of course |
| 22:45 | <Chutt> | thor, yeah |
| 22:45 | <Snow-Man> | Good. :) |
| 22:45 | <Chutt> | do you get a BadWindow error, btw? |
| 22:45 | <thor_> | yes |
| 22:45 | <Snow-Man> | sendmail going down. |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | so, essentially, the winid parameter that it's getting is bad |
| 22:46 | <Chutt> | which is why it's dying |
| 22:46 | <thor_> | Chutt, as a (fairly obvious) data point, everything else works as fast as I can hit 6 |
| 22:46 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, sendmail down. |
| 22:47 | <thor_> | Well, gears does give Bad Window, but it's always done that |
| 22:48 | <CaptMidnight> | when I go into the mythgallery and come back my fonts are suddenly small in the view recordings area, is there a way to reset the fonts without restarting the frontend? |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | CaptMidnight, you should revert to 0.9 |
| 22:49 | <CaptMidnight> | 0.9 and 0.91 caused the same problems with all bug gallery |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | no they didn't |
| 22:49 | <Chutt> | since it was a separate application before, it could have absolutely no affect on the fonts in the main application |
| 22:49 | <CaptMidnight> | for the frontend issue I had they did |
| 22:50 | <CaptMidnight> | the gallery changing the fonts is new |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | you shouldn't be using cvs unless you're able to code. |
| 22:50 | <Chutt> | and able to debug things |
| 22:51 | <CaptMidnight> | I can code just fine, I asked a question if there was a way to reset the font without restarting the frontend |
| 22:51 | <Chutt> | the font gets reset every single window that changes |
| 22:52 | <CaptMidnight> | fine then I will look into why the font didn't reset then |
| 22:52 | <Chutt> | very good |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | thor, anyway |
| 22:54 | <thor_> | I'm just checking out a clean tree to get my one line commit in =) |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | thing to do is figure out why that window isn't valid |
| 22:54 | <thor_> | yup |
| 22:54 | <thor_> | I will poke around |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | and, thanks for fixing that other bug |
| 22:56 | <thor_> | just the popup getting (properly) deleted before it could copy the name out |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | coulda sworn i tested that |
| 23:01 | <thor_> | well, that's in (probably won't hear about it for a while as the mail lists are down) |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | excellent |
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| 23:03 | <thor_> | So you're saying goom works perfectly at your end? |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:05 | <Chutt> | i even dropped down into 16 bit mode like you're running in |
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| 23:07 | <Snow-Man> | God fucking damnit. |
| 23:07 | <Chutt> | first thing i'd look at is if the SDL_windowid variable in X11_CreateWindow was the same thing as the environment variable |
| 23:08 | <Chutt> | and SDL_Window |
| 23:09 | <thor_> | not sure we want X11_CreateWindow to happen at all |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | we do |
| 23:09 | <thor_> | ok |
| 23:09 | <Chutt> | it's not actually creating the window in this case |
| 23:10 | <thor_> | i'm rebuilding that fresh tree for debugging |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | it's using the passed in window id to get the attributes of it |
| 23:10 | <Chutt> | and pretending internally that it created it |
| 23:12 | <Snow-Man> | This new relay should definitely do better than that old piece of shit. |
| 23:12 | <Chutt> | how's the transition going? |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | Well, considering the old relay apparently has this small problem of not being able to transfer more than 20k at a time, not too bad. |
| 23:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | I think it's probably a kernel bug with the network driver or something. |
| 23:13 | <Snow-Man> | Might also be the fact that it's a 10baseT card on a 100BaseT network but the switches are *supposted* to be able to handle that. |
| 23:14 | <Snow-Man> | Won't matter soon though, I'm finally almost done copying the mail queue. |
| 23:14 | <Chutt> | i think i'm going to lose power here |
| 23:14 | <Snow-Man> | Fun. |
| 23:14 | <thor_> | thunderstorm ? |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 23:15 | <Chutt> | bad power company |
| 23:16 | <thor_> | just got a spam about putting and end to spam |
| 23:16 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, shutting down the old relay. |
| 23:17 | <Snow-Man> | Shutting down the new box |
| 23:17 | <Snow-Man> | Moving stuff, afk. |
| 23:25 | <Snow-Man> | Well. |
| 23:25 | <Snow-Man> | That could have been planned better. |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | didn't work? |
| 23:26 | <Snow-Man> | More like it was a pain in the ass to get the machine actually into the rack. |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:26 | <Snow-Man> | Don't know yet if it worked. |
| 23:26 | <Snow-Man> | It's booting tho. |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | i see. |
| 23:27 | <thor_> | that 19" thing always seems to be give or take enough to make it a hassle |
| 23:27 | <Snow-Man> | Things appear to be working so far... |
| 23:28 | <Snow-Man> | Lemme reset www. |
| 23:29 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, mail's being flushed to relay from www. |
| 23:30 | <thor_> | OK, I have SDL hacked to print out SDL_windowid, what should I be comparing it to? |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | 'member those values before in mythgoom.cpp? |
| 23:31 | <thor_> | oh yeah |
| 23:31 | <thor_> | those were big, this is printing 51 |
| 23:31 | <thor_> | what's the printf for a long int? |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | so, that's the problem =) |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | ld |
| 23:31 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, things appear to be working, going to attempt to move the rack into plcae. |
| 23:31 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 23:32 | <Snow-Man> | +back |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | shouldn't matter, though |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | snowman, cool =) |
| 23:33 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, that seemed to work alright. |
| 23:33 | <thor_> | ah no, it's only an int |
| 23:33 | <thor_> | so sayeth gcc |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | what'd you add to sdl? |
| 23:34 | <thor_> | I line at the top of that function |
| 23:34 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, ns's queue has been flushed to relay. |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | what line, though? |
| 23:34 | <Chutt> | SDL_windowid is a string |
| 23:34 | <mdz_> | the CVS conflict beast rears its ugly head |
| 23:34 | <Snow-Man> | www's queue has been flushed to relay. |
| 23:35 | <Snow-Man> | Well, more-or-less. |
| 23:36 | <thor_> | hmmm |
| 23:37 | <thor_> | back to 35652136 |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | mdz, what conflicted? |
| 23:37 | <thor_> | printf("I see SDL_windowid as %s\n", SDL_windowid); |
| 23:37 | <mdz_> | Chutt: just a couple of small things |
| 23:37 | <mdz_> | I started working on overrides |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 23:37 | <mdz_> | programinfo.h and cvs.sql |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | thor, i dunno :( |
| 23:39 | <thor_> | will keep looking |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | maybe add that show() to MainVisual's constructor |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | and maybe add a processEvents() somewhere in there before it goes to construct the goom vis |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | just to make sure that that window is getting displayed |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | widget |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | i can try to rewrite things so that the vis stuff isn't in a widget of its own |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | so it uses the main window directly |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | perhaps |
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| 23:43 | <Chutt> | thor, did you check to see if it's the same windowid in there that it is in mythgoom.cpp? |
| 23:43 | <thor_> | think so |
| 23:43 | <thor_> | hang on |
| 23:43 | <thor_> | I'm so much for process events |
| 23:45 | <thor_> | winid == SDL_windowid == 35652136 |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | just checking |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | so the window must not be on screen |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | or something |
| 23:46 | <thor_> | Snow-man, mail is flowing here |
| 23:47 | <Snow-Man> | Cool. |
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| 23:48 | <thor_> | my X Error is: X Error: BadWindow (***invalid Window parameter***) 3 (emphasis added) |
| 23:49 | <activelow> | anyone know why when the tuner type is modprobed as type=2 the bttv module says "using tuner=19" ? |
| 23:49 | <Chutt> | might want to add a tuner=2 to the bttv load line |
| 23:49 | <activelow> | ATI TV Wonder/VE which is tuner type 2 |
| 23:50 | <activelow> | Chutt: I'm doing a modprobe bttv type=2 radio=0 card=64 |
| 23:50 | <activelow> | Chutt: with type it gives me Warning: ignoring type=2, no such parameter in this module |
| 23:51 | <Chutt> | right. which is why i said 'tuner=2' |
| 23:51 | <thor_> | type != tuner |
| 23:51 | <activelow> | doh.. |
| 23:51 | <activelow> | sorry long night. :) |
| 23:51 | <Chutt> | np |
| 23:52 | <activelow> | fixed me up... thanks.. |
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