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00:07<extremis>what is i2c part of?
00:07<PeteCool>anybody using bootsplashes with their mythtv setup?
00:08<extremis>PeteCool: I was going to
00:08<PeteCool>would be great to not have to whip one up myself... since it would take so much time :(
00:08<bline>extremis: i2c is it's own thing
00:09<extremis>is v4l2 in 2.4.20?
00:09<extremis>or is it just v4l?
00:10<ahbritto>extremis: Character devices
00:10<PeteCool>extremis: if you're using gentoo, the gentoo-sources kernel has v4l2... else it's v4l1 IIRC
00:11<extremis>I'm using the gentoo-sources, but I didn't see bttv in there
00:12<extremis>thats wha tI'm using now
00:12<ahbritto>extremis: Multimedia devices: v4l
00:12<PeteCool>extremis: you need to enable a few i2c options
00:12<PeteCool>else you won't see them
00:12<bline>I always hated that
00:13<bline>It should show them but popup something saying what you need if you try to enable them
00:13<PeteCool>extremis: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/
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00:22<extremis>that readme is off
00:22<extremis>some of those options are not valide
00:23<ahbritto>extremis: did you turn on i2c? and bit-banging?
00:24<ahbritto>yes, no, maybe?
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00:48<extremis>but there was one more that wasn't in there
00:48<extremis>and the bttv driver isn't bttv I think its btxxx
00:48<extremis>like 828
00:48<extremis>or some number
00:48<extremis>ca1vin: are you around?
00:51<ahbritto>extremis: One more what?
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00:53<Kuwanger>Okay, I've noticed a slight problem. There are two recordings of a show in the listing. Anyways, the problem is a show conflicts with the earlier recording. So, the conflicting show records.
00:53<Kuwanger>The problem is, the conflicting show is for half an hour. So, the other show actually records for the last 30 minutes.
00:54<Chutt>kuwanger, yeah, that's been reported before
00:54<Chutt>should be fixed soon enough
00:54<Kuwanger>That's good to hear.
00:55<Chutt>it's the same bug that happens if you try to delete an in-progress recording -- depending on the recording type, it'll just start recording again =)
00:56<mechou>Question: If you already recorded program X subtitle Y an channel Z, and program X subtitle Y shows subsequently on another channel, does it record again?
00:56<Chutt>mechou, the description has to exist and match as well
00:56<Chutt>but, no, it'll supress it
00:57<Chutt>but it does allow you to re-enable the recording from the view conflicts screen
00:57<mechou>yeah, asumming description matches...Does it record if the only diff is the channel?
00:59<mechou>hmm...One of my CSI is in oldrecorded (on a different channel) and now it wants to record again (on a different channel). I'll check the description, tho
00:59<Chutt>has to be _exactly_ the same
00:59<Chutt>like, whitespace and everything
00:59<mechou>yeah, I know, ws and caps, right?
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01:18<extremis>anyone play with bootsplash?
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01:30<mechou>extremis: other than linux splash=0? no ;-)
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09:03<knight>anyone awake?
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09:41<mechou>rkulagow: you there?
09:41<rkulagow__>not really.
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09:42<rkulagow___>that wasn't on purpose.
09:42<mechou>rkulagow: Darn, thought i p.o.'ed ya!
09:43<rkulagow___>no, client decided to quit and reset for some reason. what's up? busy though....
09:44<mechou>rkulagow: anyway, I was wondering, would you mind mentioning in mythtv doc in the network situation max storage ought to go on machine w/MBE
09:45<rkulagow___>that's not strictly a requirement. which section are you talking about?
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09:46<mechou>learned that the hard way. Yeah, there are workarounds like NFS and such, but it helps to know beforehand the tuner -storage affinity
09:47<mechou>I don't think there is a bona-fide section, but could probably go in section when you talk about setting up BE.
09:51<mechou>not a requirements kind of thing, but more like tips and hints.
09:53<mechou>what do you think?
09:54<rkulagow___>i'll give it some thought and see how to work it into the docs.
09:54<rkulagow___>chutt: are you here?
09:55<rkulagow___>when i pull up manualschedule.cpp in my favorite text editor, joe, it looks like there was some sort of DOS/UNIX conversion mishap. every line ends with CTRL-M (which joe shows as capital underscore M)
09:56<rkulagow___>only reason i pulled it up is because i'm trying to see why the duration is printing as "120mins mins"
09:56<Chutt>it's buggy
09:57<Chutt>should be fixed
09:57<rkulagow___>should be fixed == "someone should fix it" or "i just did a CVS commit and fixed it?"
09:58<Chutt>i just did a cvs commit and fixed it =)
09:58<rkulagow___>ok, thanks. darn. one less easy thing i can do.
09:59<rkulagow___>just read through the athlon-xp compile thread. (RTJPEG good, MPEG-4 bad). don't have an athlon; should users be messing with the arch flag in the first place?
09:59<Chutt>he messed with flags to ./configure
10:00<Chutt>people shouldn't do that
10:02<Chutt>basically, he told it he had a cpu that wasn't recognized
10:02<Chutt>so it used all the C functions for everything
10:03<rkulagow___>is there a right answer to what he was trying to do? just wondering why some users think they need to change the cpu flag (other than for the Via's)
10:03<Chutt>other architectures
10:04<rkulagow___>right, but is the athlon close enough to the default that they shouldn't bother? not sure if they're going to get a speedup, but they'll _definately_ get a slowdown if they do the Wrong Thing.
10:04<Chutt>no, other architectures, like ppc, etc
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10:05<rkulagow___>yes, understood that. cross-compiles, etc.
10:05<Chutt>x86 is the default
10:06<rkulagow___>jus tthinking for the HOWTO: Note: The Athlon-XP is not sufficiently different than the default CPU setup in to change the compile flag. Don't do it.
10:06<rkulagow___>something like that.
10:06<Chutt>we're not talkign about that at all
10:06<Chutt> is fine
10:06<rkulagow___>right, configure. soryy
10:06<Chutt>just a note that says 'don't mess with the flags to configure'
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10:12<mithro>hey everyone, i'm having a problem with mythtv
10:13<mithro>it freezes when i go into the program guide
10:13<mithro>the find program thing works okay, but the program guide doesn't...
10:13<mithro>not even escape works anymore
10:13<mithro>i'm using 9.0
10:16<mithro>anyone alive?
10:17<mechou>well, I'm here, but haven't encountered that prob, so can't really suggest anything...
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10:18<mechou>thor, you there?
10:18<mithro>it's very weird, i've tried selecting diffrent themes
10:18<mithro>never had this problem back with 0.7
10:19<mithro>but myth 0.9 is alot easier to setup then myth 0.7 :)
10:19<mithro>and it looks better
10:19<mithro>plus mythweather rocks
10:19<mechou>mit, so what happens after EPG freezes? you kill mythfrontend?
10:19<thor>mechou, yup
10:19<mithro>mechou: yeah i kill it and restart mythfrontend
10:20<mechou>well, then I suggest a backtrace on mythfrontend
10:21<mithro>okay whats the best way to get this backtrace, gdb then bt?
10:21<mechou>that ought to tell you the last set of functions called by mf becore it froze. Might give a hint.
10:22<mechou>exactly as documented in the mythtv faq
10:26<mithro>the faq doesn't seem to have anything about this in it?
10:26<Chutt>there's a whole section with step by step instructions on debugging in the howto.
10:26<mithro>the debugging that is
10:28<mithro>it works in gdb :(
10:28<mechou>oops, meant howto, sorry...
10:28<mithro>i know how to use gdb fairly well...
10:29<mithro>arg it's working now...
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10:43<mithro>hrm this information is well hidden?
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10:44<Chutt>only if you can't read well :p
10:45<Chutt>'I get segfaults / MythTV isn't doing anything' is pretty obvious
10:46<mithro>i was looking for "Debugging problems" or something like that
10:46<mithro>opps need to compile with debugging symbols
10:48<poptix>is 'opps' a common typo, or is it intentional
10:51<mithro>i think it's just how everyone thinks it's suppose to be typed
11:03<mithro>typo then :)
11:04<Shado07>How do you re-setup weather if you accidentally picked Wabbaseka Arkansas? ;)
11:04<Shado07>oh nevermind.. zipcode
11:06<Chutt>you can also hit 'i' while it's running
11:06<Chutt>or if using cvs, go to the setup->weather section from the main menu
11:09<Shado07>How about if you were hitting keys and accidentally changed temperature from Fahrenheit to Celcius?
11:10<Shado07>even if it's setup right
11:10<Chutt>either m or space
11:10<Chutt>will switch it
11:10<Chutt>well, one of those two will
11:10<Shado07>I love it... whoever wrote this weather thing and myth needs a big pat on the back. It rocks
11:10<Chutt>could also just go back to the setup screen and toggle it back, though
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11:11<Shado07>Anyone have a memory recommendation for Myth?
11:12<rkulagow___>"get enough"
11:13<Shado07>huh.... which usually means too much... so.. 512 or 768 are we talkin'/
11:13<rkulagow___>more like 256
11:13<rkulagow___>officemax will have 256MB of PC2100 free after rebate this weekend
11:14<rkulagow___>according to
11:15<jkolb>I feel like quite the idiot asking this, but that will work in a PC133 mobo, yes?
11:16<jkolb>(I started ignoring what all the numbers meant years ago)
11:16<rkulagow___>PC133 mobo won't take PC2100DDR ram, unless it's special. there are some dual-RAM standard motherboards.
11:16<jkolb>Ah, DDR.
11:19<poptix>notably, the SiS 735 based motherboards
11:19<rkulagow___>oo ah ah, ting tang, walla walla bing bang
11:19<poptix>but they're still different slots, mine has 2x SDRAM and 2x DDR slots
11:24<extremis>Has anyone had this problem trying to compile ivtv?
11:24<extremis>gcc -D_GNU_SOURCE -DSAA7115_REGTEST -O2 -Wall test_ioctl.c -o test_ioctl
11:24<extremis>test_ioctl.c: In function `main':
11:24<extremis>test_ioctl.c:355: structure has no member named `bitrate_mode'
11:24<Chutt>wait until tomorrow and update ivtv cvs again
11:24<Chutt>or just don't bother with test_ioctl
11:25<extremis>ok, how do I tell if it properly detected my card
11:25<extremis>it didn't put the manuf id in dmesg
11:25<Chutt>load the module and see what the kernel logs say
11:27<extremis>tuner(bttv): type forced to 2 (Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)) [insmod]
11:27<extremis>I'm not sure if that is right
11:28<Chutt>it most likely is.
11:28<extremis>ivtv: Found an iTVC16 based chip
11:28<extremis>tuner: probing ivtv i2c driver #0 i2c adapter [id=0x10005]
11:28<extremis>tuner: chip found @ 0xc2
11:28<extremis>thats the only one that indicates detection
11:28<extremis>the others seemed forced
11:28<extremis>its a pvr250 (the new one)
11:30<extremis>bootsplash is cool
11:30<extremis>I think animation is almost done
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12:07<Chutt>thor, hey, you here?
12:07<Chutt>noticed that the gapless playback in mythmusic isn't working?
12:07<thor>"gapless" ?
12:07<Chutt>no pause between tracks.
12:08<thor>did it ever do that?
12:08<Chutt>uh, yeah :p
12:09<thor>uhm ... trying to test
12:10<thor>works here =)
12:10<Chutt>definately does not here
12:10<thor>what happens at your end?
12:10<Chutt>it pauses
12:10<Chutt>cuts off the last bit of the song, even
12:11<Chutt>it's probably the stop() in handleTreeListSignals
12:11<thor>hang on, let me try some oggs
12:11<thor>hang on
12:11<Chutt>it is
12:12<thor>just cut it out (?)
12:12<Chutt>i'll look into it
12:14<thor>seems to work fine without it ...
12:17<Chutt>i'll commit that
12:19<Chutt>ok, works well again =)
12:20<Chutt>just was listening to a cd in the background, and it's got a bunch of tracks that run into each other
12:20<Chutt>sounded wrong =)
12:26<thor>sound right now?
12:26<Chutt>much better
12:26<Chutt>stop(), stops it and flushes the buffers out
12:29<mechou>Thor, I got some ? regarding the right channel mute stuff from about week ago that maybe you might able to help me out with...
12:29<thor>just running out to the store, will be back in 5
12:30<mechou>OK, chat with you in 5
12:36<thor>hmmm Doritos
12:37<mechou>I already posed the ? earlier on mythtv-users, so forgive me if I'm repetitive.
12:37<mechou>Not sure if this is alsa or mythtv prob... BTW, I'm using myth 0.91.
12:37<mechou>Using alsa (9.0rc8 & 9.4) I don't get right channel sound in myth.
12:37<mechou>All other
12:37<mechou>progs work in both channels. Also using OSS I get both channels (on myth and
12:37<mechou>other progs)
12:38<thor>well that's odd
12:38<thor>use OSS?
12:39<mechou>well, using oss I get a lot of missing sound buffer type messages
12:39<thor>but does everything work?
12:40<mechou>it works, but drops vid frames on cap most times
12:40<mechou>thats why I want to try alsa
12:40<thor>if you have a mixer open when using alsa, can you force right channel up
12:41<thor>or is it up, and just not playing anything?
12:41<mechou>done that, but all I get is static on RC
12:42<thor>static light tv white noise?
12:42<mechou>yeah, I guess. Imean whats the diff betw. white & pink?
12:43<thor>wonder where that's coming from?
12:43<thor>what about using alsa, but not having myth touch the mixer (turn off internal audio controls)
12:43<thor>does that work?
12:44<Chutt>white noise has an even frequency distribution, pink noise has an even logarithmic frequence distribution
12:44<mechou>year, I tried that too since Isaac suggested it on the myth web page. no joy.
12:45<thor>so it's not myth futzing with the mixer incorrectly
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12:45<Chutt>white noise sounds a lot higher than pink noise
12:45<thor>it's noise coming through the right channel
12:46<Chutt>could very well be that the alsa stuff doesn't record in stereo
12:46<Chutt>or does so improperly
12:46<thor>btaudio or patch cord?
12:46<thor>or PVR
12:47<thor>dunno, maybe you got a mono patch cord in there (?)
12:48<mechou>patch cord, that wouldn't explain why OSS I get both channels...
12:49<billytwowilly>ok, I finally figured out my sound thing, however now that myth is up and running the video keeps slowing down momentarily every four or five seconds.
12:49<billytwowilly>dma is on.
12:49<billytwowilly>any ideas?
12:49<mechou>using arecord on my external cd player I get both channels. Of course that's not an OSS api recorder...
12:50<rkulagow___>billytwowilly: what was the solution to the sound problem?
12:50<billytwowilly>I followed the thing on the alsa website, it wasn't working so I shut it off for a day, came back and it was working;)
12:51<billytwowilly>something I did fixed it, but I don't know what;)
12:51<thor>mechou, it really sounds like alsa for your card is not correct or is slightly misconfigured ... what kind of sound system (chip/card)?
12:51<billytwowilly>this video thing is a bit frustrating though.
12:51<billytwowilly>I wish I knew command line stuff to see what cpu usage, etc is like.
12:51<mechou>If I unmute line in I get both channels in mythtv so chances are it is a capture problem...
12:52<thor>billtwowilly, top (?)
12:53<mechou>SIS 735 chipset, with cmedia codec, using snd-intel8x0 (integrated on mobo)
12:53<billytwowilly>58 % cpu usage.
12:53<mechou>cheapass ecs k7s5a
12:53<billytwowilly>I'm going to go look at the faq again to see if I missed something.
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12:58<Chutt>dma for him, most likely
13:04<mechou>Any suggestions on how I can find out if this is an alsa or mythtv issue?
13:04<Chutt>try recording audio with something else
13:05<mechou>like krec?
13:06<Chutt>whatever you want
13:07<thor>I was just poking around the ALSA archive
13:08<thor>lots of complaints on this card when it's sharing an IRQ with something else
13:08<thor>what's lspci say?
13:09<mechou>00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 735 Host (rev 01)
13:09<mechou>00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
13:09<mechou>00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513
13:09<mechou>00:02.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7001 USB Controller (rev 07)
13:09<mechou>00:02.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7001 USB Controller (rev 07)
13:09<mechou>00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
13:09<mechou>00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator (rev a0)
13:09<mechou>00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90)
13:09<mechou>00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
13:09<mechou>00:0f.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)
13:09<mechou>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3] (rev a3)
13:09<mechou>[root@bach root]# cat /proc/interrupts
13:09<mechou> CPU0
13:09<mechou> 0: 30934974 XT-PIC timer
13:09<mechou> 1: 15818 XT-PIC keyboard
13:09<mechou> 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
13:09<mechou> 3: 54 XT-PIC usb-ohci
13:09<mechou> 5: 15236138 XT-PIC nvidia
13:10<mechou> 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
13:10<mechou> 9: 0 XT-PIC acpi
13:10<mechou> 11: 27208491 XT-PIC usb-ohci, bttv, eth0, SiS 7012
13:10<mechou> 12: 42156 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse
13:10<mechou> 14: 1694568 XT-PIC ide0
13:10<mechou> 15: 92 XT-PIC ide1
13:10<mechou>NMI: 0
13:10<mechou>LOC: 30935728
13:10<mechou>ERR: 6288
13:10<mechou>MIS: 0
13:10<thor>you got everything sitting on 11
13:10<poptix>mechou: i happen to use 4 different k7s5a's with mythtv, they all work fine
13:11<thor>I would spend a little time fiddling with your BIOS
13:11<poptix>1) get things off irq 11, 2) spend $15 on a decent sound card 3) make sure you have DMA turned on for your hard drives
13:11<mechou>of course with this mobo ya can't really change irqs around easily... tried changing pci slots, didn't work...
13:12<poptix>mechou: you have to pull everything out and boot up
13:12<poptix>with the cmos clear jumper set
13:12<thor>poptix speaketh the truth
13:12<poptix>then reinsert the cards, one at a time
13:12<mechou>really? so thats how ya change irqs on this mobo?, learn something new every day...
13:12<poptix>make sure that on the first reboot after clearing the cmos, you disable all the onboard things you aren't using
13:13<poptix>especially USB DOS support, the second serial port (and first, if you aren't using it)
13:13<poptix>parallel port (if you don't use it)
13:13<poptix>if you aren't using the secondary IDE controller, i would disable that as well.
13:13<mechou>yeah, I already disabled the unnecessary stuff...
13:14<poptix>but you need to do that on the first reboot after the cmos clear, before putting any cards back in
13:14<mechou>pop, which bios are you using?
13:14<poptix>the latest
13:14<poptix>technically my board is the PC Chips M830LR
13:14<mechou>from ecs, cheepo, or honeyx?
13:14<poptix>onboard lan
13:14<poptix>but ecs = pc chips
13:14<poptix>from ecs
13:15<mdz>mechou: buy a sound card
13:15<poptix>why would you go to honeyx/cheepo for your bios?
13:15<poptix>the onboard sound does work fine, but i've got an SB Live! 5.1 that i prefer
13:16<mdz>the on board sound is crap
13:16<poptix>you can pick one up for cheap just about anywhere that sells pc parts
13:16<mdz>I use an SB Live 5.1 as well
13:16<mdz>they are very cheap
13:16<mdz>and work
13:16<mechou>I don't, just making sure...Cheapo & honeyx offer OC, which I don't really need.
13:17<poptix>people who overclock their cpu are idiots
13:17<poptix>they spend an extra $30 for a motherboard that will OC, instead of spending the $30 on a processor that's 2x faster
13:18<poptix>well, not 2x, but faster than they could OC their current processor to
13:18<poptix>i could understand back in the P233MMX days, getting a bump to 266mhz
13:18<poptix>it was a substantial difference
13:18<mechou>OK, I think the revelation for me is that you got to pull the jumper on the mobo to change irqs. going to give this a shot when i get home.
13:19<poptix>mechou: you only need to boot once with the CMOS jumper set to 'clear'
13:19<poptix>set it back to normal after you boot once
13:19<poptix>insert cards, one at a time.
13:20<mechou>poptix: let me get this straight
13:20<mechou>I pull all cards, pull cmos jumper, power cycle, insert cards?
13:21* poptixsighs
13:21* thorslaps mechou around with a small 50lb Unix Manual
13:21<poptix>pull out cards, set cmos jumper to CLEAR, boot, power off, set cmos jumper to NORMAL, boot, disable onboard shit you don't use, boot, insert cards one at a time, booting after you insert each one
13:22<poptix>preferably inserting them in the PCI slot numbering order
13:22<mechou>OK, thanks for the clarification ;-)
13:22<poptix>if you look closely, the pci slots are numbered.
13:23<thor>Snow-Man, I think the mailing lists have gone away again
13:23<mechou>so in this case I insert into slots farthest away from CPU....
13:23<poptix>mechou: yeah
13:27<mechou>OK, that will give me enough to work on.
13:27<mechou>poptix, can you cat /proc/interrupts on one of your ecs mythtv boxen?
13:33<mechou>poptix, you still there?
13:33<mechou>poptix, can you post /proc/interrupts on one of your ecs mythtv boxen?
13:33<Snow-Man>thor: Who needs those silly things anyway?
13:34<poptix>i hate pasting
13:34<poptix> 3: 4105372 XT-PIC EMU10K1
13:34<poptix> 4: 5477635 XT-PIC ivtv: iTVC15/16 mpg2 encoder chip
13:34<poptix> 5: 713970 XT-PIC usb-ohci, eth0
13:34<poptix> 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
13:34<poptix> 10: 0 XT-PIC usb-ohci
13:34<poptix> 11: 6673451 XT-PIC nvidia
13:34<poptix> 12: 283867 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse
13:34<poptix> 14: 1750341 XT-PIC ide0
13:34<poptix> 15: 1428076 XT-PIC ide1
13:35<mechou>poptix: so you're SB on this one. You got one that's using the on board sound?
13:35<poptix>i do, it's not nearby at the moment
13:36<poptix>lemme see if i can ssh to it
13:36<poptix>it's not up right now
13:36<mechou>keep in mind the ecs bastards used cmedia and realtek codec on the same mobo rev, apparently.
13:37<poptix>mechou: it doesn't matter, because you're going to disable it and go get a decent sound card.
13:38<mechou>nag, nag ;-)
13:40<mdz>poptix: you forgot 'power off' before 'insert cards' :-)
13:40<poptix>mdz: no i didn't ;)
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13:53<billytwowilly>sorry to bother you guys once more, but I have another sound problem. I only get /dev/mixer when I log into kde. When I log into blackbox there is no /dev/mix
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14:21<yourface>Is anyone around?
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14:47<mythtv>Hey all.... I've been kacking around all day trying to get my remote to work. I can get it to echo to a term but can't get it to control anything in myth. I even tried changing CurrentWindow to mythfrontend in the .lircrc file. Any ideas on what to try next
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16:06<Chutt>thor, coverart in mythmusic? =)
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16:07<thor>yeah ... well .... why not
16:08<thor>Option: Use cover art for onscreen visualizer ?
16:08<Chutt>and maybe an alternate selection method
16:08<Chutt>covers and stuff..
16:08<thor>somebody said they were looking at Walmart for cover art, was that you?
16:09<Chutt>walmart has really high quality images
16:09<Chutt>bigger than like amazon and stuff
16:09<thor>straightforward URL's
16:09<Chutt>that's the problem
16:09<Chutt>amazon'd be easier
16:10<thor>will look into it ...
16:10<thor>travelling this weekend though
16:10<Chutt>no problem
16:10<Chutt>just curious if you were thinking of doing that at some point
16:10<thor>I did poke around moegreen's stuff
16:10<thor>at one point
16:11<thor>early next week sometime
16:11<thor>got to finish getting MythThemedDialog to tell me which widget is under a mouse press first
16:12<thor>got an el-cheapo "tablet" computer (old fujitsu Point 510) that is going into a picture frame
16:13<thor>tap tap
16:13<Chutt>i did something similar with an i-opener for my senior project back in school
16:13<thor>where/are the i-opener's touchscreens ?
16:13<Chutt>it was an external one =)
16:13<Chutt>meant for a laptop
16:14<Chutt>just slapped on top of it
16:14<Chutt>had a hacked up version of freeamp that ran with it
16:14<thor>sounds very similar
16:14<Chutt>well, it didn't look all that nice =)
16:14<Chutt>and i had some bits on a breadboard to interface the touchscreen with the computer
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16:15<thor>ah ... this one should be a little more polished
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16:15<thor>just power and sound wires coming out of it
16:15<thor>(off behind the books)
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17:40<TheAsp>yay! the screen for me to put my autodeletion config stuff is in!
17:40<TheAsp>cept it hangs when i exit it :)
17:42<Chutt>the advanced recording screen that's in cvs?
17:42<Chutt>how are you getting to it?
17:42<Chutt>(just to check)
17:42<TheAsp>pressing i inside the infor dialog
17:43<TheAsp>now it segfaults when i go into view recordings
17:44<TheAsp>do you think using file locking (fcntl) is a good way to determine if a recording is being recorded (read write lock) or being watches (read lock)?
17:45<TheAsp>man, cant type today
17:45<TheAsp>i tried putting it in a month ago, and it didnt work out, but i didnt try very hard
17:46<TheAsp>i guess it works over nfs as long as it's a sane server
17:46<TheAsp>though deleting a recording being watched/recorded is safe
17:46<TheAsp>well, unless you try to save your position or something
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18:45<marc>good evening...
18:45<marc>would there be anybody around who could point me somewhere where I can find info about 'extmod' options (from XF86Config)?
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19:15<billytwowilly>hi, I'm a bit confused. how do I change what the keys on my remote do if I'm using an ati remote wonder (RF remote control that shows up as a keyboard).
19:21<ahbritto>billytwowilly: I am going to try to set that up tonight ask again tommorrow if you are still having problems.
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19:21<bline>remaping what keys do in X perhaps
19:21<bline>man xmodmap
19:21<billytwowilly>hehehe. I just need a pointer to the files to muck with if you can point me..
19:22<billytwowilly>possibly. I'd need a list of what keys do what in mythtv though.
19:22<billytwowilly>is there one of those somewhere?
19:22<ahbritto>in the tar file...
19:22<bline>in the mythtv direcotory
19:22<ahbritto>This might be relevant, I'm not sure:
19:22<bline>also look at the X headers for what X calles keys
19:22<billytwowilly>perfect. that puts me about twice as far ahead as I was before;)
19:23<billytwowilly>I think it's going to be an xmodmap answer.
19:23<billytwowilly>It looks like the remote wonder just shows up as a keyboard. I'm not using lirc or anything.
19:23<bline>look in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysym.h for key names
19:23<ahbritto>AVview will configure Xfree86 to issue events for special buttons (like Play) automatically. Otherwise take a look at man xmodmap and ati.2/avview.modmap for hints how to configure XFree86 keymap with other applications.
19:23<billytwowilly>thanks for all the help guys.
19:23<bline>and /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h
19:24<bline>the program xev will probably also come in handy
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19:41<tmk>does isaac ever stop by?
19:42<thor>I dunno, Chutt you run into him here?
19:43<bigguy>tmk: Isaac F. or Isaac Richards?
19:48<tmk>richards :)
19:49<bigguy>tmk: that would be Chutt and he's on irc most of the time but he might be afk
19:50<tmk>cool thanks
19:55<tmk>any of the other developers here?
19:55<tmk>i had an OSD question
19:55<tmk>(posted to mailing list also)
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20:22<dopez>has anyone here using v4l2 seen these messages? : kernel: bttv0: OCERR @ 15f15000,bits: HSYNC OCERR* and kernel: bttv0: skipped frame. no signal? high irq latency? , i get them allot, and i'm thinking this is whats causing a few(allot actually) framedrops, funny thing is, another box here doesnt have this problem with v4l2
20:23<dopez>(also v4l1 doesnt show these messages, but still has allot of framedrops)
20:40<poptix>use the source, luke.
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21:06<dopez>poptix: well, found out the last error is only something that can happen with bttv 0.9.x, and that i dont know much about C/C++ ;)
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21:12<poptix>the comments in the code can be very helpful
21:12<poptix>so can
21:18<Chutt>mmm.. nwn expansion
21:19<Chutt>neverwinter nights
21:24* dopezstill needs to get nwn, sounds like something to get addicted to ;)
21:25<dopez>google and comments in the code is helpful indeed, but there doenst seem to be much info about this, still looking tho
21:27<poptix>Chutt: you saw the nwn linux client, right?
21:28<Chutt>yeah, but i'd rather play games in windows
21:31<Chutt>i dunno
21:31<Chutt>better meant for it, no other crap running in the background =)
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21:46<poptix>no other crap?
21:46<poptix>have you brought up your task manager lately?
21:46<poptix>you've got like 30 little "services" just waiting to jump out and bite you in the ass
21:47<Chutt>not on this install :p
21:48<bigguy>I don't have that many running in xp
21:48<bigguy>I turn off most of the "services"
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22:46<bline>arggg what is wrong with the damn system
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23:07<bigguy>bline: gentoo
23:07<bline>screw you!
23:07<bigguy>erm no
23:08<bline>no, there is something wrong here
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23:08<bline>I just need to figure out what it is
23:08* Ku-lessdoes a little dance over the beauty of nuv to avi translations.
23:08<bigguy>well what are the symptoms
23:08<Ku-less>Though I wish I didn't have to reencode.
23:08<bline>figure out what mythtv does different than xine and mplayer that makes the sound cut out
23:09<Ku-less>Oh, I still have problems with mythtv stopping for a fraction of a second at least twice in a show.
23:09<bigguy>Ku-less: reencode to cut the commercials?
23:09<Ku-less>Noticable pause, really.
23:09<bline>this is about every 10 seconds
23:09<Ku-less>bigguy: reencode so you can the avi has key frames.
23:10<bline>and it doesn't start back up until I rewind for like a second
23:10<bline>the screwy thing is, this shit used to work fine...
23:10<bline>I dunno what changed to break it
23:10<bigguy>Ku-less: do you save to mpeg4 or rtjpeg when recording?
23:10* Ku-lesswould like to know what he could do to make mythbackend not stutter in recording sometimes. :)
23:11<bigguy>shouldn't need to reencode then unless you want the commercials out
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23:11<Ku-less>I'm almost tempted to going back to having myth use its internal volume controls since alsa keeps forgetting my settings.
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23:12<Ku-less>bigguy: Tell that to xine and mplayer when trying to fastforward/rewind cause it to jump to the end, then stop.
23:13<bigguy>watching the nuv itself or watching a mencode copy?
23:14<Ku-less>mencode copy?
23:14<Ku-less>Yea, I watch the nuv itself, but if I want to actually pack up anything, I'd reencode it to avi
23:14<Ku-less>err, back
23:16<Ku-less>Oh, wait..I think I get your question now.
23:16<Ku-less>The nuv plays fine.
23:16<Ku-less>Well, except that it does that garble thing.
23:16<Ku-less>The same sort of garble broken mpeg4 avis do.
23:16<Ku-less>The reencoded avi works perfectly.
23:17<Ku-less>And the copy through mencoder looks fine, but since I can't rewind/fastfoward, I haven't a clue if it'd garble.
23:17<bigguy>mencoder file.nuv -oac copy -ovc copy outfile.avi
23:19<Ku-less>I only have to reencode the video, fyi. Not sure what it is, really.
23:20<Ku-less>But, it's not *that* much hassle to reencode through divx. I just prefer not reencoding more than necessary.
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23:33<yourface>anyone around
23:36<yourface>I found a bug, but get no error
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23:37<yourface>I can't complete an in progress recording, it kicks me out randomly. And suggestions to what I do next?
23:37<Ku-less> /me has the same issue.
23:38<yourface>Why has their been no mailing list issue on it
23:39<Chutt>everone's waiting for you to send in a patch to fix it
23:42<yourface>I don't even know if I can use the debugg to fix this
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23:58<ahbritto>bline: Are you having audio problems?