| 00:07 | <extremis> | what is i2c part of? |
| 00:07 | <PeteCool> | anybody using bootsplashes with their mythtv setup? |
| 00:08 | <extremis> | PeteCool: I was going to |
| 00:08 | <PeteCool> | would be great to not have to whip one up myself... since it would take so much time :( |
| 00:08 | <bline> | extremis: i2c is it's own thing |
| 00:09 | <extremis> | is v4l2 in 2.4.20? |
| 00:09 | <extremis> | or is it just v4l? |
| 00:10 | <ahbritto> | extremis: Character devices |
| 00:10 | <PeteCool> | extremis: if you're using gentoo, the gentoo-sources kernel has v4l2... else it's v4l1 IIRC |
| 00:11 | <extremis> | I'm using the gentoo-sources, but I didn't see bttv in there |
| 00:11 | <extremis> | linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 |
| 00:12 | <extremis> | thats wha tI'm using now |
| 00:12 | <ahbritto> | extremis: Multimedia devices: v4l |
| 00:12 | <PeteCool> | extremis: you need to enable a few i2c options |
| 00:12 | <PeteCool> | else you won't see them |
| 00:12 | <bline> | I always hated that |
| 00:13 | <bline> | It should show them but popup something saying what you need if you try to enable them |
| 00:13 | <PeteCool> | extremis: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/ |
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| 00:22 | <extremis> | that readme is off |
| 00:22 | <extremis> | some of those options are not valide |
| 00:23 | <ahbritto> | extremis: did you turn on i2c? and bit-banging? |
| 00:24 | <ahbritto> | yes, no, maybe? |
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| 00:47 | <extremis> | yes |
| 00:48 | <extremis> | but there was one more that wasn't in there |
| 00:48 | <extremis> | and the bttv driver isn't bttv I think its btxxx |
| 00:48 | <extremis> | like 828 |
| 00:48 | <extremis> | or some number |
| 00:48 | <extremis> | ca1vin: are you around? |
| 00:51 | <ahbritto> | extremis: One more what? |
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| 00:53 | <Kuwanger> | Okay, I've noticed a slight problem. There are two recordings of a show in the listing. Anyways, the problem is a show conflicts with the earlier recording. So, the conflicting show records. |
| 00:53 | <Kuwanger> | The problem is, the conflicting show is for half an hour. So, the other show actually records for the last 30 minutes. |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | kuwanger, yeah, that's been reported before |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | should be fixed soon enough |
| 00:54 | <Kuwanger> | That's good to hear. |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | it's the same bug that happens if you try to delete an in-progress recording -- depending on the recording type, it'll just start recording again =) |
| 00:56 | <mechou> | Question: If you already recorded program X subtitle Y an channel Z, and program X subtitle Y shows subsequently on another channel, does it record again? |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | mechou, the description has to exist and match as well |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | but, no, it'll supress it |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | but it does allow you to re-enable the recording from the view conflicts screen |
| 00:57 | <mechou> | yeah, asumming description matches...Does it record if the only diff is the channel? |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:59 | <mechou> | hmm...One of my CSI is in oldrecorded (on a different channel) and now it wants to record again (on a different channel). I'll check the description, tho |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | has to be _exactly_ the same |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | like, whitespace and everything |
| 00:59 | <mechou> | yeah, I know, ws and caps, right? |
| 01:00 | <Chutt> | yup |
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| 01:18 | <extremis> | anyone play with bootsplash? |
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| 01:30 | <mechou> | extremis: other than linux splash=0? no ;-) |
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| 02:21 | <yourface> | Hello? |
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| 09:03 | <knight> | heh |
| 09:03 | <knight> | anyone awake? |
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| 09:41 | <mechou> | rkulagow: you there? |
| 09:41 | <rkulagow__> | not really. |
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| 09:42 | <rkulagow___> | that wasn't on purpose. |
| 09:42 | <mechou> | rkulagow: Darn, thought i p.o.'ed ya! |
| 09:43 | <rkulagow___> | no, client decided to quit and reset for some reason. what's up? busy though.... |
| 09:44 | <mechou> | rkulagow: anyway, I was wondering, would you mind mentioning in mythtv doc in the network situation max storage ought to go on machine w/MBE |
| 09:45 | <rkulagow___> | that's not strictly a requirement. which section are you talking about? |
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| 09:46 | <mechou> | learned that the hard way. Yeah, there are workarounds like NFS and such, but it helps to know beforehand the tuner -storage affinity |
| 09:47 | <mechou> | I don't think there is a bona-fide section, but could probably go in section when you talk about setting up BE. |
| 09:51 | <mechou> | not a requirements kind of thing, but more like tips and hints. |
| 09:53 | <mechou> | what do you think? |
| 09:54 | <rkulagow___> | i'll give it some thought and see how to work it into the docs. |
| 09:54 | <rkulagow___> | chutt: are you here? |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 09:55 | <rkulagow___> | when i pull up manualschedule.cpp in my favorite text editor, joe, it looks like there was some sort of DOS/UNIX conversion mishap. every line ends with CTRL-M (which joe shows as capital underscore M) |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 09:56 | <rkulagow___> | only reason i pulled it up is because i'm trying to see why the duration is printing as "120mins mins" |
| 09:56 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 09:56 | <Chutt> | it's buggy |
| 09:57 | <Chutt> | should be fixed |
| 09:57 | <rkulagow___> | should be fixed == "someone should fix it" or "i just did a CVS commit and fixed it?" |
| 09:58 | <Chutt> | i just did a cvs commit and fixed it =) |
| 09:58 | <rkulagow___> | ok, thanks. darn. one less easy thing i can do. |
| 09:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 09:58 | <Chutt> | sorry |
| 09:58 | <rkulagow___> | NP. |
| 09:59 | <rkulagow___> | just read through the athlon-xp compile thread. (RTJPEG good, MPEG-4 bad). don't have an athlon; should users be messing with the arch flag in the first place? |
| 09:59 | <Chutt> | he messed with flags to ./configure |
| 10:00 | <Chutt> | people shouldn't do that |
| 10:02 | <Chutt> | basically, he told it he had a cpu that wasn't recognized |
| 10:02 | <Chutt> | so it used all the C functions for everything |
| 10:03 | <rkulagow___> | is there a right answer to what he was trying to do? just wondering why some users think they need to change the cpu flag (other than for the Via's) |
| 10:03 | <Chutt> | other architectures |
| 10:04 | <rkulagow___> | right, but is the athlon close enough to the default that they shouldn't bother? not sure if they're going to get a speedup, but they'll _definately_ get a slowdown if they do the Wrong Thing. |
| 10:04 | <Chutt> | no, other architectures, like ppc, etc |
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| 10:05 | <rkulagow___> | yes, understood that. cross-compiles, etc. |
| 10:05 | <Chutt> | x86 is the default |
| 10:06 | <rkulagow___> | jus tthinking for the HOWTO: Note: The Athlon-XP is not sufficiently different than the default CPU setup in settings.pro to change the compile flag. Don't do it. |
| 10:06 | <rkulagow___> | something like that. |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | oh |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | we're not talkign about that at all |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | settings.pro is fine |
| 10:06 | <rkulagow___> | right, configure. soryy |
| 10:06 | <rkulagow___> | brb |
| 10:06 | <Chutt> | just a note that says 'don't mess with the flags to configure' |
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| 10:12 | <mithro> | hey everyone, i'm having a problem with mythtv |
| 10:13 | <mithro> | it freezes when i go into the program guide |
| 10:13 | <mithro> | the find program thing works okay, but the program guide doesn't... |
| 10:13 | <mithro> | not even escape works anymore |
| 10:13 | <mithro> | i'm using 9.0 |
| 10:16 | <mithro> | anyone alive? |
| 10:17 | <mechou> | well, I'm here, but haven't encountered that prob, so can't really suggest anything... |
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| 10:18 | <mechou> | thor, you there? |
| 10:18 | <mithro> | it's very weird, i've tried selecting diffrent themes |
| 10:18 | <mithro> | never had this problem back with 0.7 |
| 10:19 | <mithro> | but myth 0.9 is alot easier to setup then myth 0.7 :) |
| 10:19 | <mithro> | and it looks better |
| 10:19 | <mithro> | plus mythweather rocks |
| 10:19 | <mechou> | mit, so what happens after EPG freezes? you kill mythfrontend? |
| 10:19 | <thor> | mechou, yup |
| 10:19 | <mithro> | mechou: yeah i kill it and restart mythfrontend |
| 10:20 | <mechou> | well, then I suggest a backtrace on mythfrontend |
| 10:21 | <mithro> | okay whats the best way to get this backtrace, gdb then bt? |
| 10:21 | <mechou> | that ought to tell you the last set of functions called by mf becore it froze. Might give a hint. |
| 10:22 | <mechou> | exactly as documented in the mythtv faq |
| 10:23 | <mithro> | okay |
| 10:26 | <mithro> | the faq doesn't seem to have anything about this in it? |
| 10:26 | <Chutt> | there's a whole section with step by step instructions on debugging in the howto. |
| 10:26 | <mithro> | the debugging that is |
| 10:28 | <mithro> | bah |
| 10:28 | <mithro> | it works in gdb :( |
| 10:28 | <mechou> | oops, meant howto, sorry... |
| 10:28 | <mithro> | i know how to use gdb fairly well... |
| 10:29 | <mithro> | arg it's working now... |
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| 10:43 | <mithro> | hrm this information is well hidden? |
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| 10:44 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-18.html#ss18.9 |
| 10:44 | <Chutt> | only if you can't read well :p |
| 10:45 | <Chutt> | 'I get segfaults / MythTV isn't doing anything' is pretty obvious |
| 10:46 | <mithro> | i was looking for "Debugging problems" or something like that |
| 10:46 | <mithro> | opps need to compile with debugging symbols |
| 10:48 | <poptix> | is 'opps' a common typo, or is it intentional |
| 10:51 | <mithro> | i think it's just how everyone thinks it's suppose to be typed |
| 10:58 | <poptix> | 'oops' |
| 11:03 | <mithro> | typo then :) |
| 11:04 | <Shado07> | How do you re-setup weather if you accidentally picked Wabbaseka Arkansas? ;) |
| 11:04 | <Shado07> | oh nevermind.. zipcode |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | you can also hit 'i' while it's running |
| 11:06 | <Chutt> | or if using cvs, go to the setup->weather section from the main menu |
| 11:09 | <Shado07> | How about if you were hitting keys and accidentally changed temperature from Fahrenheit to Celcius? |
| 11:10 | <Shado07> | even if it's setup right |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | either m or space |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | will switch it |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | well, one of those two will |
| 11:10 | <Shado07> | kickass |
| 11:10 | <Shado07> | I love it... whoever wrote this weather thing and myth needs a big pat on the back. It rocks |
| 11:10 | <Chutt> | could also just go back to the setup screen and toggle it back, though |
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| 11:11 | <Shado07> | Anyone have a memory recommendation for Myth? |
| 11:12 | <rkulagow___> | "get enough" |
| 11:13 | <Shado07> | huh.... which usually means too much... so.. 512 or 768 are we talkin'/ |
| 11:13 | <rkulagow___> | more like 256 |
| 11:13 | <rkulagow___> | officemax will have 256MB of PC2100 free after rebate this weekend |
| 11:14 | <rkulagow___> | according to techbargains.com |
| 11:15 | <jkolb> | I feel like quite the idiot asking this, but that will work in a PC133 mobo, yes? |
| 11:16 | <rkulagow___> | no |
| 11:16 | <jkolb> | (I started ignoring what all the numbers meant years ago) |
| 11:16 | <jkolb> | Damn. |
| 11:16 | <rkulagow___> | PC133 mobo won't take PC2100DDR ram, unless it's special. there are some dual-RAM standard motherboards. |
| 11:16 | <jkolb> | Ah, DDR. |
| 11:18 | <poptix> | eh |
| 11:18 | <poptix> | oh |
| 11:19 | <poptix> | notably, the SiS 735 based motherboards |
| 11:19 | <rkulagow___> | oo ah ah, ting tang, walla walla bing bang |
| 11:19 | <poptix> | but they're still different slots, mine has 2x SDRAM and 2x DDR slots |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | Has anyone had this problem trying to compile ivtv? |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | gcc -D_GNU_SOURCE -DSAA7115_REGTEST -O2 -Wall test_ioctl.c -o test_ioctl |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | test_ioctl.c: In function `main': |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | test_ioctl.c:355: structure has no member named `bitrate_mode' |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | wait until tomorrow and update ivtv cvs again |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | or just don't bother with test_ioctl |
| 11:25 | <extremis> | ok, how do I tell if it properly detected my card |
| 11:25 | <extremis> | it didn't put the manuf id in dmesg |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | load the module and see what the kernel logs say |
| 11:27 | <extremis> | tuner(bttv): type forced to 2 (Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)) [insmod] |
| 11:27 | <extremis> | I'm not sure if that is right |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | it most likely is. |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | ivtv: Found an iTVC16 based chip |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | tuner: probing ivtv i2c driver #0 i2c adapter [id=0x10005] |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | tuner: chip found @ 0xc2 |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | thats the only one that indicates detection |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | the others seemed forced |
| 11:28 | <extremis> | its a pvr250 (the new one) |
| 11:30 | <extremis> | bootsplash is cool |
| 11:30 | <extremis> | I think animation is almost done |
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| 12:07 | <Chutt> | thor, hey, you here? |
| 12:07 | <thor> | yup |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | noticed that the gapless playback in mythmusic isn't working? |
| 12:07 | <thor> | "gapless" ? |
| 12:07 | <Chutt> | no pause between tracks. |
| 12:07 | <thor> | oh |
| 12:08 | <thor> | did it ever do that? |
| 12:08 | <thor> | =) |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | uh, yeah :p |
| 12:09 | <thor> | uhm ... trying to test |
| 12:10 | <thor> | works here =) |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | definately does not here |
| 12:10 | <thor> | what happens at your end? |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | it pauses |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | cuts off the last bit of the song, even |
| 12:11 | <thor> | really? |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | it's probably the stop() in handleTreeListSignals |
| 12:11 | <thor> | hang on, let me try some oggs |
| 12:11 | <thor> | ah |
| 12:11 | <thor> | hang on |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | it is |
| 12:12 | <thor> | just cut it out (?) |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | i'll look into it |
| 12:14 | <thor> | seems to work fine without it ... |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | i'll commit that |
| 12:17 | <thor> | k |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | done |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | ok, works well again =) |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | just was listening to a cd in the background, and it's got a bunch of tracks that run into each other |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | sounded wrong =) |
| 12:25 | <thor> | ah |
| 12:26 | <thor> | sound right now? |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | much better |
| 12:26 | <thor> | good |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | stop(), stops it and flushes the buffers out |
| 12:29 | <mechou> | Thor, I got some ? regarding the right channel mute stuff from about week ago that maybe you might able to help me out with... |
| 12:29 | <thor> | ok |
| 12:29 | <thor> | just running out to the store, will be back in 5 |
| 12:30 | <mechou> | OK, chat with you in 5 |
| 12:36 | <thor> | back |
| 12:36 | <thor> | hmmm Doritos |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | I already posed the ? earlier on mythtv-users, so forgive me if I'm repetitive. |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | Not sure if this is alsa or mythtv prob... BTW, I'm using myth 0.91. |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | Using alsa (9.0rc8 & 9.4) I don't get right channel sound in myth. |
| 12:37 | <thor> | hmmm |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | All other |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | progs work in both channels. Also using OSS I get both channels (on myth and |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | other progs) |
| 12:38 | <thor> | well that's odd |
| 12:38 | <thor> | use OSS? |
| 12:39 | <mechou> | well, using oss I get a lot of missing sound buffer type messages |
| 12:39 | <thor> | but does everything work? |
| 12:40 | <mechou> | it works, but drops vid frames on cap most times |
| 12:40 | <thor> | ah |
| 12:40 | <mechou> | thats why I want to try alsa |
| 12:40 | <thor> | right |
| 12:40 | <thor> | if you have a mixer open when using alsa, can you force right channel up |
| 12:40 | <thor> | ? |
| 12:41 | <thor> | or is it up, and just not playing anything? |
| 12:41 | <mechou> | done that, but all I get is static on RC |
| 12:41 | <thor> | cool |
| 12:41 | <thor> | hmmmm |
| 12:42 | <thor> | static light tv white noise? |
| 12:42 | <thor> | like |
| 12:42 | <mechou> | yeah, I guess. Imean whats the diff betw. white & pink? |
| 12:43 | <thor> | wonder where that's coming from? |
| 12:43 | <thor> | what about using alsa, but not having myth touch the mixer (turn off internal audio controls) |
| 12:43 | <thor> | does that work? |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | white noise has an even frequency distribution, pink noise has an even logarithmic frequence distribution |
| 12:44 | <mechou> | year, I tried that too since Isaac suggested it on the myth web page. no joy. |
| 12:45 | <thor> | so it's not myth futzing with the mixer incorrectly |
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| 12:45 | <Chutt> | white noise sounds a lot higher than pink noise |
| 12:45 | <thor> | it's noise coming through the right channel |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | could very well be that the alsa stuff doesn't record in stereo |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | or does so improperly |
| 12:46 | <thor> | btaudio or patch cord? |
| 12:46 | <thor> | or PVR |
| 12:47 | <thor> | dunno, maybe you got a mono patch cord in there (?) |
| 12:48 | <mechou> | patch cord, that wouldn't explain why OSS I get both channels... |
| 12:48 | <thor> | yup |
| 12:49 | <billytwowilly> | ok, I finally figured out my sound thing, however now that myth is up and running the video keeps slowing down momentarily every four or five seconds. |
| 12:49 | <billytwowilly> | dma is on. |
| 12:49 | <billytwowilly> | any ideas? |
| 12:49 | <mechou> | using arecord on my external cd player I get both channels. Of course that's not an OSS api recorder... |
| 12:50 | <rkulagow___> | billytwowilly: what was the solution to the sound problem? |
| 12:50 | <billytwowilly> | I followed the thing on the alsa website, it wasn't working so I shut it off for a day, came back and it was working;) |
| 12:51 | <billytwowilly> | something I did fixed it, but I don't know what;) |
| 12:51 | <thor> | mechou, it really sounds like alsa for your card is not correct or is slightly misconfigured ... what kind of sound system (chip/card)? |
| 12:51 | <billytwowilly> | this video thing is a bit frustrating though. |
| 12:51 | <billytwowilly> | I wish I knew command line stuff to see what cpu usage, etc is like. |
| 12:51 | <mechou> | If I unmute line in I get both channels in mythtv so chances are it is a capture problem... |
| 12:52 | <thor> | billtwowilly, top (?) |
| 12:53 | <mechou> | SIS 735 chipset, with cmedia codec, using snd-intel8x0 (integrated on mobo) |
| 12:53 | <billytwowilly> | 58 % cpu usage. |
| 12:53 | <mechou> | cheapass ecs k7s5a |
| 12:53 | <billytwowilly> | I'm going to go look at the faq again to see if I missed something. |
| 12:55 | <bline> | mornin |
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| 12:58 | <Chutt> | dma for him, most likely |
| 13:04 | <mechou> | Any suggestions on how I can find out if this is an alsa or mythtv issue? |
| 13:04 | <Chutt> | try recording audio with something else |
| 13:05 | <mechou> | like krec? |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | whatever you want |
| 13:07 | <thor> | I was just poking around the ALSA archive |
| 13:08 | <thor> | lots of complaints on this card when it's sharing an IRQ with something else |
| 13:08 | <thor> | what's lspci say? |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 735 Host (rev 01) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513 |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:02.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7001 USB Controller (rev 07) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:02.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7001 USB Controller (rev 07) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator (rev a0) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 90) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 00:0f.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3] (rev a3) |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | [root@bach root]# cat /proc/interrupts |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | CPU0 |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 0: 30934974 XT-PIC timer |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 1: 15818 XT-PIC keyboard |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 3: 54 XT-PIC usb-ohci |
| 13:09 | <mechou> | 5: 15236138 XT-PIC nvidia |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 9: 0 XT-PIC acpi |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 11: 27208491 XT-PIC usb-ohci, bttv, eth0, SiS 7012 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 12: 42156 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 14: 1694568 XT-PIC ide0 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | 15: 92 XT-PIC ide1 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | NMI: 0 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | LOC: 30935728 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | ERR: 6288 |
| 13:10 | <mechou> | MIS: 0 |
| 13:10 | <thor> | you got everything sitting on 11 |
| 13:10 | <poptix> | mechou: i happen to use 4 different k7s5a's with mythtv, they all work fine |
| 13:11 | <thor> | I would spend a little time fiddling with your BIOS |
| 13:11 | <poptix> | 1) get things off irq 11, 2) spend $15 on a decent sound card 3) make sure you have DMA turned on for your hard drives |
| 13:11 | <mechou> | of course with this mobo ya can't really change irqs around easily... tried changing pci slots, didn't work... |
| 13:12 | <poptix> | mechou: you have to pull everything out and boot up |
| 13:12 | <poptix> | with the cmos clear jumper set |
| 13:12 | <thor> | poptix speaketh the truth |
| 13:12 | <poptix> | then reinsert the cards, one at a time |
| 13:12 | <mechou> | really? so thats how ya change irqs on this mobo?, learn something new every day... |
| 13:12 | <poptix> | make sure that on the first reboot after clearing the cmos, you disable all the onboard things you aren't using |
| 13:13 | <poptix> | especially USB DOS support, the second serial port (and first, if you aren't using it) |
| 13:13 | <poptix> | parallel port (if you don't use it) |
| 13:13 | <poptix> | if you aren't using the secondary IDE controller, i would disable that as well. |
| 13:13 | <mechou> | yeah, I already disabled the unnecessary stuff... |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | but you need to do that on the first reboot after the cmos clear, before putting any cards back in |
| 13:14 | <mechou> | pop, which bios are you using? |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | the latest |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | technically my board is the PC Chips M830LR |
| 13:14 | <mechou> | from ecs, cheepo, or honeyx? |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | onboard lan |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | but ecs = pc chips |
| 13:14 | <poptix> | from ecs |
| 13:15 | <mdz> | mechou: buy a sound card |
| 13:15 | <poptix> | why would you go to honeyx/cheepo for your bios? |
| 13:15 | <poptix> | the onboard sound does work fine, but i've got an SB Live! 5.1 that i prefer |
| 13:16 | <mdz> | the on board sound is crap |
| 13:16 | <poptix> | you can pick one up for cheap just about anywhere that sells pc parts |
| 13:16 | <mdz> | I use an SB Live 5.1 as well |
| 13:16 | <mdz> | they are very cheap |
| 13:16 | <mdz> | and work |
| 13:16 | <mechou> | I don't, just making sure...Cheapo & honeyx offer OC, which I don't really need. |
| 13:17 | <poptix> | people who overclock their cpu are idiots |
| 13:17 | <poptix> | they spend an extra $30 for a motherboard that will OC, instead of spending the $30 on a processor that's 2x faster |
| 13:18 | <poptix> | well, not 2x, but faster than they could OC their current processor to |
| 13:18 | <poptix> | i could understand back in the P233MMX days, getting a bump to 266mhz |
| 13:18 | <poptix> | it was a substantial difference |
| 13:18 | <mechou> | OK, I think the revelation for me is that you got to pull the jumper on the mobo to change irqs. going to give this a shot when i get home. |
| 13:19 | <poptix> | mechou: you only need to boot once with the CMOS jumper set to 'clear' |
| 13:19 | <poptix> | set it back to normal after you boot once |
| 13:19 | <poptix> | insert cards, one at a time. |
| 13:20 | <mechou> | poptix: let me get this straight |
| 13:20 | <mechou> | I pull all cards, pull cmos jumper, power cycle, insert cards? |
| 13:21 | * poptix | sighs |
| 13:21 | * thor | slaps mechou around with a small 50lb Unix Manual |
| 13:21 | <poptix> | pull out cards, set cmos jumper to CLEAR, boot, power off, set cmos jumper to NORMAL, boot, disable onboard shit you don't use, boot, insert cards one at a time, booting after you insert each one |
| 13:22 | <poptix> | preferably inserting them in the PCI slot numbering order |
| 13:22 | <mechou> | OK, thanks for the clarification ;-) |
| 13:22 | <poptix> | if you look closely, the pci slots are numbered. |
| 13:23 | <thor> | Snow-Man, I think the mailing lists have gone away again |
| 13:23 | <mechou> | so in this case I insert into slots farthest away from CPU.... |
| 13:23 | <poptix> | mechou: yeah |
| 13:27 | <mechou> | OK, that will give me enough to work on. |
| 13:27 | <mechou> | poptix, can you cat /proc/interrupts on one of your ecs mythtv boxen? |
| 13:33 | <mechou> | poptix, you still there? |
| 13:33 | <poptix> | eh |
| 13:33 | <mechou> | poptix, can you post /proc/interrupts on one of your ecs mythtv boxen? |
| 13:33 | <Snow-Man> | thor: Who needs those silly things anyway? |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | i hate pasting |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 3: 4105372 XT-PIC EMU10K1 |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 4: 5477635 XT-PIC ivtv: iTVC15/16 mpg2 encoder chip |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 5: 713970 XT-PIC usb-ohci, eth0 |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 10: 0 XT-PIC usb-ohci |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 11: 6673451 XT-PIC nvidia |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 12: 283867 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 14: 1750341 XT-PIC ide0 |
| 13:34 | <poptix> | 15: 1428076 XT-PIC ide1 |
| 13:35 | <mechou> | poptix: so you're SB on this one. You got one that's using the on board sound? |
| 13:35 | <poptix> | i do, it's not nearby at the moment |
| 13:36 | <poptix> | lemme see if i can ssh to it |
| 13:36 | <poptix> | it's not up right now |
| 13:36 | <mechou> | keep in mind the ecs bastards used cmedia and realtek codec on the same mobo rev, apparently. |
| 13:37 | <poptix> | mechou: it doesn't matter, because you're going to disable it and go get a decent sound card. |
| 13:38 | <mechou> | nag, nag ;-) |
| 13:40 | <mdz> | poptix: you forgot 'power off' before 'insert cards' :-) |
| 13:40 | <poptix> | mdz: no i didn't ;) |
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| 13:53 | <billytwowilly> | sorry to bother you guys once more, but I have another sound problem. I only get /dev/mixer when I log into kde. When I log into blackbox there is no /dev/mix |
| 13:54 | <billytwowilly> | /dev/mixer |
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| 14:21 | <yourface> | Is anyone around? |
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| 14:47 | <mythtv> | Hey all.... I've been kacking around all day trying to get my remote to work. I can get it to echo to a term but can't get it to control anything in myth. I even tried changing CurrentWindow to mythfrontend in the .lircrc file. Any ideas on what to try next |
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| 16:06 | <Chutt> | thor, coverart in mythmusic? =) |
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| 16:07 | <thor> | yeah ... well .... why not |
| 16:08 | <thor> | Option: Use cover art for onscreen visualizer ? |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | and maybe an alternate selection method |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | covers and stuff.. |
| 16:08 | <thor> | somebody said they were looking at Walmart for cover art, was that you? |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | walmart has really high quality images |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | bigger than like amazon and stuff |
| 16:09 | <thor> | straightforward URL's |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | that's the problem |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | amazon'd be easier |
| 16:10 | <thor> | will look into it ... |
| 16:10 | <thor> | travelling this weekend though |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | no problem |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | just curious if you were thinking of doing that at some point |
| 16:10 | <thor> | I did poke around moegreen's stuff |
| 16:10 | <thor> | at one point |
| 16:11 | <thor> | early next week sometime |
| 16:11 | <thor> | got to finish getting MythThemedDialog to tell me which widget is under a mouse press first |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:12 | <thor> | got an el-cheapo "tablet" computer (old fujitsu Point 510) that is going into a picture frame |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 16:13 | <thor> | tap tap |
| 16:13 | <thor> | music |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | i did something similar with an i-opener for my senior project back in school |
| 16:13 | <thor> | where/are the i-opener's touchscreens ? |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | it was an external one =) |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | meant for a laptop |
| 16:13 | <thor> | ah |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | just slapped on top of it |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | had a hacked up version of freeamp that ran with it |
| 16:14 | <thor> | sounds very similar |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | well, it didn't look all that nice =) |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | and i had some bits on a breadboard to interface the touchscreen with the computer |
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| 16:15 | <thor> | ah ... this one should be a little more polished |
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| 16:15 | <thor> | just power and sound wires coming out of it |
| 16:15 | <thor> | (off behind the books) |
| 16:15 | <Chutt> | nice |
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| 17:40 | <TheAsp> | yay! the screen for me to put my autodeletion config stuff is in! |
| 17:40 | <TheAsp> | cept it hangs when i exit it :) |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | the advanced recording screen that's in cvs? |
| 17:42 | <TheAsp> | yeah |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | how are you getting to it? |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | (just to check) |
| 17:42 | <TheAsp> | pressing i inside the infor dialog |
| 17:43 | <TheAsp> | hmm |
| 17:43 | <TheAsp> | now it segfaults when i go into view recordings |
| 17:44 | <TheAsp> | do you think using file locking (fcntl) is a good way to determine if a recording is being recorded (read write lock) or being watches (read lock)? |
| 17:45 | <TheAsp> | watched |
| 17:45 | <TheAsp> | man, cant type today |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | possibly |
| 17:45 | <TheAsp> | i tried putting it in a month ago, and it didnt work out, but i didnt try very hard |
| 17:46 | <TheAsp> | i guess it works over nfs as long as it's a sane server |
| 17:46 | <TheAsp> | though deleting a recording being watched/recorded is safe |
| 17:46 | <TheAsp> | well, unless you try to save your position or something |
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| 18:45 | <marc> | good evening... |
| 18:45 | <marc> | would there be anybody around who could point me somewhere where I can find info about 'extmod' options (from XF86Config)? |
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| 18:56 | <ahbritto> | www.xfree.org |
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| 19:15 | <billytwowilly> | hi, I'm a bit confused. how do I change what the keys on my remote do if I'm using an ati remote wonder (RF remote control that shows up as a keyboard). |
| 19:21 | <ahbritto> | billytwowilly: I am going to try to set that up tonight ask again tommorrow if you are still having problems. |
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| 19:21 | <bline> | remaping what keys do in X perhaps |
| 19:21 | <bline> | man xmodmap |
| 19:21 | <billytwowilly> | hehehe. I just need a pointer to the files to muck with if you can point me.. |
| 19:22 | <billytwowilly> | possibly. I'd need a list of what keys do what in mythtv though. |
| 19:22 | <billytwowilly> | is there one of those somewhere? |
| 19:22 | <bline> | keys.txt |
| 19:22 | <ahbritto> | in the tar file... |
| 19:22 | <bline> | in the mythtv direcotory |
| 19:22 | <ahbritto> | This might be relevant, I'm not sure: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/avview.php |
| 19:22 | <bline> | also look at the X headers for what X calles keys |
| 19:22 | <billytwowilly> | perfect. that puts me about twice as far ahead as I was before;) |
| 19:23 | <billytwowilly> | I think it's going to be an xmodmap answer. |
| 19:23 | <billytwowilly> | It looks like the remote wonder just shows up as a keyboard. I'm not using lirc or anything. |
| 19:23 | <bline> | look in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysym.h for key names |
| 19:23 | <ahbritto> | AVview will configure Xfree86 to issue events for special buttons (like Play) automatically. Otherwise take a look at man xmodmap and ati.2/avview.modmap for hints how to configure XFree86 keymap with other applications. |
| 19:23 | <billytwowilly> | thanks for all the help guys. |
| 19:23 | <bline> | and /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h |
| 19:24 | <bline> | the program xev will probably also come in handy |
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| 19:41 | <tmk> | does isaac ever stop by? |
| 19:42 | <thor> | I dunno, Chutt you run into him here? |
| 19:43 | <bigguy> | tmk: Isaac F. or Isaac Richards? |
| 19:48 | <tmk> | richards :) |
| 19:49 | <bigguy> | tmk: that would be Chutt and he's on irc most of the time but he might be afk |
| 19:50 | <tmk> | cool thanks |
| 19:55 | <tmk> | any of the other developers here? |
| 19:55 | <tmk> | i had an OSD question |
| 19:55 | <tmk> | (posted to mailing list also) |
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| 20:22 | <dopez> | has anyone here using v4l2 seen these messages? : kernel: bttv0: OCERR @ 15f15000,bits: HSYNC OCERR* and kernel: bttv0: skipped frame. no signal? high irq latency? , i get them allot, and i'm thinking this is whats causing a few(allot actually) framedrops, funny thing is, another box here doesnt have this problem with v4l2 |
| 20:23 | <dopez> | (also v4l1 doesnt show these messages, but still has allot of framedrops) |
| 20:40 | <poptix> | use the source, luke. |
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| 21:06 | <dopez> | poptix: well, found out the last error is only something that can happen with bttv 0.9.x, and that i dont know much about C/C++ ;) |
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| 21:12 | <poptix> | the comments in the code can be very helpful |
| 21:12 | <poptix> | so can www.google.com |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | mmm.. nwn expansion |
| 21:18 | <thor> | nwn? |
| 21:19 | <Chutt> | neverwinter nights |
| 21:24 | * dopez | still needs to get nwn, sounds like something to get addicted to ;) |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 21:25 | <dopez> | google and comments in the code is helpful indeed, but there doenst seem to be much info about this, still looking tho |
| 21:27 | <poptix> | Chutt: you saw the nwn linux client, right? |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | yeah, but i'd rather play games in windows |
| 21:31 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 21:31 | <Chutt> | better meant for it, no other crap running in the background =) |
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| 21:46 | <poptix> | wtf |
| 21:46 | <poptix> | no other crap? |
| 21:46 | <poptix> | have you brought up your task manager lately? |
| 21:46 | <poptix> | you've got like 30 little "services" just waiting to jump out and bite you in the ass |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:47 | <Chutt> | not on this install :p |
| 21:48 | <bigguy> | I don't have that many running in xp |
| 21:48 | <bigguy> | I turn off most of the "services" |
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| 22:46 | <bline> | arggg what is wrong with the damn system |
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| 23:07 | <bigguy> | bline: gentoo |
| 23:07 | <bline> | screw you! |
| 23:07 | <bigguy> | erm no |
| 23:08 | <bline> | no, there is something wrong here |
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| 23:08 | <bline> | I just need to figure out what it is |
| 23:08 | * Ku-less | does a little dance over the beauty of nuv to avi translations. |
| 23:08 | <bigguy> | well what are the symptoms |
| 23:08 | <Ku-less> | Though I wish I didn't have to reencode. |
| 23:08 | <bline> | figure out what mythtv does different than xine and mplayer that makes the sound cut out |
| 23:09 | <Ku-less> | Oh, I still have problems with mythtv stopping for a fraction of a second at least twice in a show. |
| 23:09 | <bigguy> | Ku-less: reencode to cut the commercials? |
| 23:09 | <Ku-less> | Noticable pause, really. |
| 23:09 | <bline> | this is about every 10 seconds |
| 23:09 | <Ku-less> | bigguy: reencode so you can the avi has key frames. |
| 23:10 | <bline> | and it doesn't start back up until I rewind for like a second |
| 23:10 | <Ku-less> | -the |
| 23:10 | <bline> | the screwy thing is, this shit used to work fine... |
| 23:10 | <bline> | I dunno what changed to break it |
| 23:10 | <bigguy> | Ku-less: do you save to mpeg4 or rtjpeg when recording? |
| 23:10 | * Ku-less | would like to know what he could do to make mythbackend not stutter in recording sometimes. :) |
| 23:10 | <Ku-less> | mpeg4 |
| 23:11 | <bigguy> | shouldn't need to reencode then unless you want the commercials out |
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| 23:11 | <Ku-less> | I'm almost tempted to going back to having myth use its internal volume controls since alsa keeps forgetting my settings. |
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| 23:12 | <Ku-less> | bigguy: Tell that to xine and mplayer when trying to fastforward/rewind cause it to jump to the end, then stop. |
| 23:13 | <bigguy> | watching the nuv itself or watching a mencode copy? |
| 23:14 | <Ku-less> | mencode copy? |
| 23:14 | <Ku-less> | Yea, I watch the nuv itself, but if I want to actually pack up anything, I'd reencode it to avi |
| 23:14 | <Ku-less> | err, back |
| 23:16 | <Ku-less> | Oh, wait..I think I get your question now. |
| 23:16 | <Ku-less> | The nuv plays fine. |
| 23:16 | <Ku-less> | Well, except that it does that garble thing. |
| 23:16 | <Ku-less> | The same sort of garble broken mpeg4 avis do. |
| 23:16 | <Ku-less> | The reencoded avi works perfectly. |
| 23:17 | <Ku-less> | And the copy through mencoder looks fine, but since I can't rewind/fastfoward, I haven't a clue if it'd garble. |
| 23:17 | <bigguy> | mencoder file.nuv -oac copy -ovc copy outfile.avi |
| 23:17 | <bigguy> | erm |
| 23:18 | <bigguy> | oh |
| 23:19 | <bigguy> | nm |
| 23:19 | <Ku-less> | I only have to reencode the video, fyi. Not sure what it is, really. |
| 23:20 | <Ku-less> | But, it's not *that* much hassle to reencode through divx. I just prefer not reencoding more than necessary. |
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| 23:33 | <yourface> | anyone around |
| 23:35 | <Ku-less> | Possibly. |
| 23:36 | <yourface> | I found a bug, but get no error |
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| 23:37 | <yourface> | I can't complete an in progress recording, it kicks me out randomly. And suggestions to what I do next? |
| 23:37 | <Ku-less> | /me has the same issue. |
| 23:38 | <yourface> | Why has their been no mailing list issue on it |
| 23:39 | <Chutt> | everone's waiting for you to send in a patch to fix it |
| 23:42 | <yourface> | I don't even know if I can use the debugg to fix this |
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| 23:58 | <ahbritto> | bline: Are you having audio problems? |