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00:00<mithro>i think it's to much reflection as i most offten get double presses
00:02<rkulagow___>moegreen, are you here?
00:10<bline>Chutt: hmm, that fixed it
00:10<bline>I'll post a reply to the list
00:11<Chutt>wonder what it was
00:11<Chutt>which bit of it
00:12<bline>I have no idea
00:12<Snow-Man>Alright, lemme know when someone gets
00:12<bline>but you know a solution if someone else has a similar problem heh
00:13<bline>the windows solution
00:13<Chutt>snowman, when was it sent?
00:13<Chutt>just now?
00:13<Snow-Man>Or so.
00:14<Chutt>last sent time of anything i've gotten was 11:27
00:14<Snow-Man>What was the id?
00:15<Chutt>the entire thing?
00:15<Snow-Man>It shouldn't be all that long...
00:15<mithro>woot i CVS doesn't contain my freeze problem
00:15<Chutt>i'm typing it into another machine :p
00:15<Snow-Man>haha, oh. :)
00:16<Snow-Man>There's been 3 since then it looks like.
00:17<Chutt>the initial ns -> relay took fairly long on that email -- 'bout 7 minutes
00:17<Snow-Man>It doesn't help that I'm fucking with things. :)
00:17<Chutt>bline, hey, i think i'm not going to use you guys for anon cvs stuff
00:17<Snow-Man>It's annoying though, in order to see how a change affects things I have to leave it in place for a while. :)
00:18<rkulagow___>chutt: not sure if this is design or just two different programmers doing their own thing; in the "find programs", "The Daily Show" is filed under "D" for Daily Show. In Watch Recordings, the "The" isn't removed, so it's way down the list under "The".
00:18<bline>Chutt: ok, I'll delete the account
00:18<Chutt>thanks, though
00:18<Chutt>snowman and i are getting a box elsewhere
00:18<bline>sure, if you ever need anything hosted let me know
00:18<Chutt>so i'll be paying for the bandwidth, in part at least
00:18<Snow-Man>Chutt: I email'd them friday btw and didn't get a response, so <shrug>
00:18<Chutt>well, hopefully, at least
00:18<Snow-Man>I did try at least though. :)
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00:19<Snow-Man>Oh, I expect we'll get it and all.
00:19<Snow-Man>Just might not be till like monday/tuesday.
00:19<Chutt>rkulagow, heh, hadn't noticed that. you think it should remove it from the list on watch recordings as well?
00:19<bline>arg, which ds9 slot should I record
00:20<rkulagow___>i believe so; should be standardized between i would think.
00:20<Chutt>snowman, for the lists, how you going to handle things? change the name to or something, so you can still have going to your house?
00:20<Snow-Man>I guess probably.
00:20<Snow-Man>Or if you want. :)
00:21<Snow-Man>Though, well, I could route them over to anyway in total so they wouldn't actually be a load on my box anymore. )
00:21<Chutt>that'd be fine for the web stuff, but is longer than it needs to be :p
00:21* Snow-Mansmirks.
00:21<Snow-Man>How'd I guess you'd say that.
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00:22<Chutt>i just got..
00:22<Chutt>oops, no
00:23<Chutt>different email from joe caputo
00:23<Snow-Man>There's still one queue
00:23<Snow-Man>'d for yo.
00:23<Snow-Man>bleh, stupid laptop keyboard.
00:23<Chutt>should be 4 or 5 :p
00:23<Chutt>as i've sent, oh, 3 that i haven't gotten yet
00:23<Chutt>and 1 commits list message
00:24* Snow-Mangoes hunting.
00:24* Chuttcontributes to the general overloading of
00:25<Snow-Man>ermmm, I don't see those..
00:25<Snow-Man>Jun 21 23:35:19 2003 (21721) post to mythtv-commits from, size=2690, message-id=<E19Tv5J-00077E-00@Mizar>, success
00:25<Snow-Man>Was that the commit message?
00:26<Chutt>that's not it
00:26<Chutt>that was the previous commit message
00:26<Chutt>check on ns
00:26<Snow-Man>That's the last commit message I see hitting mailman, hmmmm.
00:26<Chutt>or relay to go to www =)
00:27<Snow-Man>yeah, yeah, working on it.
00:29<Snow-Man>alright, there, ns cleared out.
00:30<Chutt>just got the email you asked for earlier
00:30<Snow-Man>heh, ok.
00:31<Snow-Man>ok, looks like www is cleaned out now too.
00:41<Chutt>i should sleep
00:41<rkulagow___>sleep is for the weak.
00:43<Chutt>and that's what i am
00:43<rkulagow___>well, that's ok then.
00:43<rkulagow___>i'll be i detroit next week for a week, so don't know if i'll be around / updating HOWTO and stuff.
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00:55<Snow-Man>Chutt: If you're still up..
00:56<Snow-Man> and can get kicked off the lists.
00:58<mithro>rkulagow___: i could help with the mythtv howto, a debian specific section would be easy to add...
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01:52* mithroinstalls alsa
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02:30<mithro>alsa kicks OSS's ass
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02:53<rkulagow___>chutt, you'd better be asleep.
02:54<mithro>rkulagow___: i can help with user documentation if you want...
02:54<rkulagow___>what would you like to help with?
02:55<mithro>well i'm happy to help where it's most needed :)
02:56<rkulagow___>scratch your itch, and then send me a diff to the HOWTO. i'll see if i can incorporate it.
02:57<mithro>okay, i'll look into better debian information into the howto
03:01<rkulagow___>if you come up with something, send it past mdz; i'm not a debian person, and he's the most knowlegeable person i know on that distro.
03:02<rkulagow___>chutt: if you see this in scrollback at some point, i just realized that the "percent free" scrollbar in the delete recordings screen doesn't update after a deletion. even though there appears to be a screen repaint after the delete confirmation popup goes away, the scrollbar didn't update until i exited the screen and then came back in.
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11:15<Snow-Man>How are the lists doing now?
11:17<Chutt>i dunno
11:17<Chutt>last message i got was from 10:51
11:17<Chutt>dunno if there've been any more recent
11:18<Snow-Man>Can you check the delay on that message?
11:18<Chutt>3 minutes, total
11:18<Snow-Man>Not bad.
11:19<Snow-Man>A message just hit at 11:16
11:19<Snow-Man>To -users
11:20<Chutt>just got that one
11:21<Snow-Man>Not too bad.
11:21<Chutt>thanks =)
11:21<Chutt>i just sent 2
11:21<Snow-Man>Yeah, noticed those.
11:21<Snow-Man>Your from addy is still :)
11:21<Snow-Man>Actually, only one's hit so far.
11:21<Snow-Man>There went the other.
11:22<Snow-Man>Trying to overload it? ;)
11:22<Chutt>yeah, i'm still writing as from that
11:24<Snow-Man>The way things are set up now initial messages coming in get broken up into 50 addresses per mail.
11:25<Snow-Man>Then, every 25 minutes messages older than 25 minutes are moved into the hourly queue and should be broken into sets of 5.
11:26<Snow-Man>Though it looks like by the 25 minute mark the messages are down to the few people with shitty servers.
11:27<Snow-Man>Alright, I'm outta here for now.
11:28<Chutt>see ya
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13:20<Peit|Home>does mythfrontend need it's own local MySQL server? or can it be told to talk to a remote one?
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13:25<tdb30_>I also have a question. Anyone here get svido out to work on an nvidia card?
13:26<Chutt>Peit|Home, all mythfrontends/backends on a network need to talk to the same mysql server
13:30<zaheer>tdb30_: do u get black and white when using svideo?
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13:31<zaheer>Chutt: unless u have a replicating mysql setup...
13:31<Chutt>which would be a very silly thing to do, really
13:32<zaheer>not really....if myth becomes peer-to-ppeer between backends rather than master-slave backends...then replicating mysql would be excellent
13:40<tdb30_>no I just get a black screen
13:41<tdb30_>There is some staticy stuff that occasionaly shows on the screen like the station is out of tune
13:41<tdb30_>but most of the time it sblack
13:42<tdb30_>FWIW I am using the svideo out connector
13:42<zaheer>does composite out work?
13:42<zaheer>the staticy stuff is most likely interference/background noise from your machine
13:43<tdb30_>not sure this card has a comp out. I think its just a comp in so you can capture video
13:43<tdb30_>thats what I was thinking zahher (about the static)
13:43<zaheer>its a capture card and a graphics card?
13:43<Ripp>tdb30_: my gf4 came w/ a svhs->comp adapter...fwiw
13:44<tdb30_>its svhs > comp? that could be a problem I thought it was svhs to regular video not comp
13:44<tdb30_>I didn't think anyone used composite video any more.
13:44<Ripp>comp=composite not component
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13:45<Peit|Home>Chutt: wheres the mysql configured? I can't start setup without it complaining
13:45<zaheer>my gf2 came with a svideo -> svideo cable
13:45<zaheer>but im using composite
13:45<zaheer>coz im connecting it to an rf modulator
13:46<zaheer>so it distributs across the house
13:49<tdb30_>humm my transmiter so I can transmit it to a tv only has video/laudio/raudio
13:50<tdb30_>so you are saying I have to shove this svideo into a tuner type device?
13:50<zaheer>do u ave an svideo connector on tv?
13:51<zaheer>so what do u have between the card and the tv?
13:51<tdb30_>let me lay out what I want to do to make it clear what I have and where I want to go with it. You seem to be familar with the pc hardware I have. The other compoent is one of those video sender units that takes in the normal three inputs I mentioned above.
13:51<tdb30_>the receiver unit is plugged into the back of a tv in another room.
13:53<zaheer>aaah pk
13:53<tdb30_>its totaly retarded that the sender unit doesn't have a composite input yet the receiver has a composite output as well as v/a/a
13:54<zaheer>so what input has the video sender got?
13:54<zaheer>v/a/a being yellow/white/red?
13:55<zaheer>composite video is the yellow component
13:55<tdb30_>err yeah. exactly probably should have used v/l/r
13:55<tdb30_>well thats how I have it hooked up I used the svga adapter and plugged an cord from that to the yellow in my transmitter
13:55<tdb30_>err svideo
13:55<tdb30_>not svga
13:57<zaheer>most likely prob is the svideo -> composute converter
13:57<zaheer>tho im surprised u get black
13:58<tdb30_>what should I get?
13:58<zaheer>i would expect some type of picture even if the adaptor is crap
13:59<zaheer>your xf86config
13:59<zaheer>what have u got in the section where u specify the nvidia driver
14:03<tdb30_>one sec.
14:03<tdb30_>running up and down stairs :)
14:03<tdb30_>Driver "nv"
14:03<tdb30_>thats about it
14:04<tdb30_>other than board name and identiver and vendor name
14:04<Chutt>you need to use the nvidia driver.
14:04<tdb30_>the boardname btw is "NVIDIA GeForced4 (generic)
14:04<zaheer>i use the bindary nvidia driver
14:04<zaheer>rather than the opensource nv driver
14:04<zaheer>u also need this:
14:05<Chutt>it's spelled 'you'
14:07<zaheer>Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
14:07<zaheer>Option "TVStandard" "PAL-I"
14:07<zaheer>I am in UK so u may wanna changew TVStandard
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14:08<tdb30_>yeah not a problem.
14:09<tdb30_>maybe thats all it is then
14:09<tdb30_>just a driver issue
14:09<zaheer>yah most likely
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14:21<tdb30_>arrg I trie the driver and I get package is for a different architecture ;)
14:27<zaheer>get the src
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14:27<zaheer>compile it
14:31<tdb30_>I think the problem was the rpm I picked may have been compiled specificaly for athlon processors and I only have a k6 in the box
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14:38<tdb30_>okay well its installed.
14:39<tdb30_>what is the video driver name do you know?
14:39<tdb30_>It didn't update my XF86Config
14:41<ahbritto> /server
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14:45<tdb30_>well that didn't go so well. locked up hard when I went into x. Time to reboot
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16:02<peit|lap>quick question, am i supposed to be able to stream output across the network?
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16:18<Ripp>hey guys, anyone know where mythweather stores the radar image...need to blow it away
16:24<Ripp>nm found it in /tmp :p
16:30<Timon>[dan@pvr Movies]$ mythfrontend BUG: attempted to set value of read-only ComboBox as string
16:33<zaheer>Timon: i get the same
16:33<Timon>fix it zaheer :-)
16:33<Chutt>that was fixed several hours ago
16:34<Timon>My last cvs update was about 10am AST (2pm EST)
16:34<Timon>I've only seen one commit message since then regarding the cxxflags
16:38<Timon>woot, finally got my gdb working again!
16:41<activelow>can anyone recommend a good mpeg2 editing program, for taking out commercials manually? I tried avidemux but when I save the edited file it's way way out of sync..
16:44<ahbritto>activelow: mythtv?
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16:46<activelow>ahbritto: sorry didnt know I could edit video in myth, how's that done?
16:47<ahbritto>activelow: look at keys.txt - but myth automatically will mark commericals for you if you turn it on.
16:47* Timonwould like to find a decent program to join video files (not .nuv files)
16:48<activelow>ok thanks..
16:48<ahbritto>Timon: mpeg3cat or avicat?
16:48<Timon>ahbritto: avicat? Never heard of it. Will it keep the sound from getting out of sync?
16:49<Timon>I've tried a few products like fx joiner, and easy video joiner and they second part always ended up out of audio sync
16:49<ahbritto>Timon: I have only played with mpeg3cat which works well for me. avicat is part of the avifile package.
16:50<Timon>thanks for the tip, I will check them out!
17:03<Chutt>timon, make distclean on mythgame
17:03<Timon>ok, I'll do that again
17:05<ahbritto>Chutt: Do you have a seperate thread for fsyncing the video capture stream when recording?
17:06<Timon>same thing chutt
17:08<Chutt>ahbritto, no, it happens in the encoding thread
17:10<ahbritto>Chutt: I found when doing massive writes I needed to have one thread for writing and one thread for fsyncing.
17:10<ahbritto>Otherwise, the writing thread would occassionally block.
17:10<Chutt>doesn't matter if it blocks for a little bit
17:10<ahbritto>With my pvr-250 I see this very often:
17:10<Chutt>everything's buffered
17:10<ahbritto>Jun 21 23:00:02 credit kernel: ivtv: Not enough free buffers, stream 0
17:10<ahbritto>Jun 21 23:00:06 credit last message repeated 114 times
17:11<ahbritto>And I have ioctls setting maximum mpeg buffers.
17:11<Chutt>so, fix it and send in a patch.
17:11<ahbritto>I'll look. :)
17:12<activelow>ahbritto: I'm having a fit of stupid here... when I make 2 cutpoints, what deletes inbetween those two?
17:13<ahbritto>activelow: I have not played with manual cutting.
17:13<activelow>ok, will play around some more...
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17:26<Chutt>how odd
17:26<Timon>whats that?
17:27<Chutt>sound card seems to be randomly resampling non 44.1kHz input
17:27<Timon>What card?
17:27<Chutt>my sound card, yeah
17:28<Chutt>built in nvidia audio
17:28<Timon>Don't know much about them
17:28<zaheer>isnr its default samplerate 48khz?
17:29<Chutt>well, it probably is internally
17:29<Chutt>but it resamples in hardware up to that
17:32<Chutt>and now it's not doing it anymore.
17:32<Chutt>very. odd.
17:33<Chutt>i was ripping code apart and stuff
17:35<Chutt>but when sox and play don't work right, something's up =)
17:35<extremis>heh when mythbackend loads the kernel dumps (but then fixes itself)
17:35<extremis>but mythbackend never loads all the way
17:35<extremis>I think it might be ivtv
17:36<extremis>because whenever i run test_ioctl it hangs
17:36<Chutt>that'd probably be right
17:36<extremis>can't even kill -9 test_ioctl
17:36<Chutt>yeah, it's hung in a driver/kernel stuff
17:36<extremis>that was yesterday's cvs
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17:46<extremis>yay, its working again
17:46<extremis>but test_ioctl now has more problmes
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18:36<Peit|Home>how do i change the channels when i'm watching live tv?
18:38<Peit|Home>(i can't find keys.txt
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18:40<zaheer>damn the dvb transmitter in hemel hempstead is down
18:40<zaheer>cant test my dvb work :(
18:40<zaheer>and just when i thought i had it fixed
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18:46<Timon>Peit|Home use the up and down arrows
18:47<Peit|Home>thanks Timon
18:47<Peit|Home>hmm, remote veiwing doesn't show _anything_, not even the green screen i get when trying to view locally
18:49<Peit|Home>what does " Found changes in the todo list." when running mythbackend -v mean?
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19:01<extremis>anyone jittery audio but clean video?
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19:04<extremis>I'm using a pvr250
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19:45<tmk>ex: is it ok when using cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg
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21:16<Chutt>bline, that foo.mpeg of yours plays fine on all 3 of my myth capable machines, btw :(
21:16<bline>yeah, maybe my processor is messed
21:17<Chutt>other people are seeing something similar
21:17<Chutt>hearing, rather
21:17<bline>it started happening on tv this morning
21:17<Chutt>i'm sure it's a bug in the playback stuff
21:17<Chutt>i just have no idea what it could be, as i can't reproduce it at all
21:17<bline>but it makes no sense that you can't reproduce it
21:18<Chutt>wouldn't be the first time
21:18<bline>I going to recompile with no extra cflags and see if that is it
21:19<Chutt>what would be kinda neat is to see if the garbling's present in the decoded data
21:19<Chutt>ie, just dump the decoded audio to disk
21:21<bline>mplayer and xine play the recordings from mythtv just fine
21:21<bline>so the audio is in the mpeg
21:21<Chutt>which says it's a mythtv bug
21:21<Chutt>right, but i don't know if they're doing the same decoding stuff
21:21<Chutt>or not
21:22<bline>I thnk it's something to do with the video audio syncing sense the video speeds up for a second when the sould cuts out
21:23<Chutt>very well could be, yes
21:32<bline>compiling with none of my own cflags didn't solve it :(
21:36<bline>I still think this may be hardware related.
21:36<mithro>audio/video syncing issues are evil
21:36<mithro>anyone here have a pvr 250?
21:37<mithro>how much compression can the card to for can the card to for you?
21:38<mithro>ie i want about 1gig per hour.... what type of quality would the card give you...
21:38<mithro>bah that first sentance didn't make any sense :)
21:38<mithro>how much compression can the card give you vs quality?
21:40<bline>but my cable signal sucks
21:40<mithro>at how much cpu?
21:41<bline>the pvr250 is a hardware encoder
21:42<mithro>yeah but there is still cpu required to get the stuff off the card etc
21:42<mithro>plus how much is in hardware?
21:43<bline>it's just buffered reads from the card, it takes no cpu really
21:45<bline>Chutt: if you need anything, like access to my system, I'll be happy to help
21:46<Chutt>be kind of hard to reproduce remotely
21:46<bline>yeah, I guess so heh
21:46<mithro>so it would be easy to encode like 2 streams easy?
21:46<mithro>(with 2 cards)
21:47<bline>mithro: yeah
21:48<mithro>what encoding does it use? rtjpeg?
21:49<bline>mpeg 1 or 2
21:51<mithro>how stable are the drivers/
21:52<bline>they are not
21:52<mithro>looks like i'm going to have to pick up one of these cards
21:53<mithro>whats the chipset? as i doubt i can get the pvr250 here in australia
21:55<mechou>bline: pls confirm, are you saying drives for pvr250 are not stable (usability-wise)?
21:57<bline>no they are not very stable, they are usable though. The driver is called ivtv, google it
21:57<Chutt>the mythtv webpage even says they're not stable yet :p
21:58<Chutt>bline, in libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp
21:58<Chutt>change the 'usepre = 3;' line to 'usepre = 12';
21:58<Chutt>err, 'usepre = 12;'
21:58<Chutt>see if that helps any
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21:59<baly>how zo I zisable xmozmap qhanges?
22:00<mechou>funky keyboard
22:00<baly>('m trying to ezit my /etq/fstab file on my myth box anz my keys are borkez.
22:00<baly>I have an rf remote, so I haz to qhange keymappings to get it to zo what I wantez.
22:00<baly>it shows up as a keyboarz
22:01<Chutt>bline, also, there's a commented out line: //printf("prebuffering..\n"); at line 1231, could you uncomment that?
22:01<Chutt>see if it lines up with your audio breakups
22:01<baly>any izea how to zisable xmozmap qhanges?
22:02<bline>Chutt: trying now
22:03<baly>hehehe someone type #manzrake so that I qan qopy/paste to join it anz get help please.
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22:08<Chutt>bline, it doesn't happen to print 'rebuffering (xxx xxx)' at all during the bad audio, does it?
22:08<bline>still compiling
22:09<Chutt>well, from previous runs
22:10<bline>it prints rebuffering when the sound starts to cut back in
22:11<bline>no output when the sound cuts out
22:11<bline>but while the sound is cut out I usually get a few Delaying to next trigger: ...
22:19<bline>ok, with changes I get sound cuts, about 1/2 second later I get rebuffering, then a bunch of prebuffering, then a 'Delaying to next trigger:.' then sound comes back
22:20<Chutt>so nothing before the sound cuts
22:20<Chutt>you're using cvs, right?
22:20<bline>this output was consistent though
22:21<Chutt>in audiooutputoss.cpp
22:21<Chutt>in libmyth/
22:22<Chutt>the OutputAudioLoop() function
22:22<Chutt>could you add a printf("paused audio\n");
22:22<Chutt>after the if (pauseaudio)
22:22<Chutt>near the top of the loop
22:22<Chutt>also, there's a bunch of commented out printfs in that function
22:23<Chutt>could you un-comment them?
22:23<Chutt>i'm just looking for some idea of if it knows that anything's wrong when the audio starts to go bad
22:24<bline>ok, recompiling
22:24<Chutt>you're not recompiling from scratch, right?
22:25<bline>well, I guess I shouldn't heh
22:25<Chutt>no, you shouldn't be :p
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22:45<bline>man, that is a lot of output
22:46<bline>no out right at the moment sound cuts out still
22:46<bline>rebuffering (129025 256000)
22:46<bline>Broadcasting free space avail
22:46<bline>paused audio
22:47<bline>the sound cut out about 0.5 seconds before that rebuffering output
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22:48<bline>then lots of paused audio, then 'waiting for space to write 1024 zeros on soundcard which has 0 bytes free'
22:48<billytwowilly>hi, does mythvideo scan for videos recursively through directories? it isn't finding my videos, but I know they are there..
22:49<Chutt>bline, does your cpu go to 100% when the audio cuts out?
22:49<bline>I didn't look, I'll look now
22:52<bline>looks like it goes up, but not to 100
22:53<bline>I saw it go up to 50 when the sound was out, but it doesn't sit there at 50
22:56<Chutt>what's it normally at during playback?
22:57<Chutt>so, big jump
22:57<Chutt>normally, there's one process taking up all the cpu -- the decoding
22:57<Chutt>is it the _same_ process that jumps up to 50?
22:57<bline>but after it is with no sound for a while, the cpu goes back down
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22:58<bline>one sec, I'll see if I can tell
22:59<bline>yeah, same process that sits at 8-10 jups to 30-50
22:59<Chutt>mythfrontend does show up as a different pids, right?
23:00<bline>yeah, all of em do
23:00<bline>therer are 7 processes
23:00<Chutt>there goes that idea
23:02<bline>it seems to only jump up in cpu when it starts rebuffering
23:02<Chutt>bah, that's normal, then
23:03<Chutt>it's decoding a bunch of frames really quickly to prebuffer em
23:03<bline>anything else I can do?
23:04<Chutt>i don't know :(
23:04<Snow-Man>So, how're the lists?
23:04<Chutt>if i could reproduce it, i'd know what's going on
23:04<Chutt>snowman, good
23:08<bline>Chutt: I could setup vnc if you want to play with it that way
23:09<Chutt>bline i don't really have the bandwidth
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23:20<Chutt>i dunno
23:21<Chutt>next thing i'd do would be to try and dump the raw audio stream that's getting decoded
23:21<Chutt>just to see if it contains the errors as well
23:22<Chutt>probably doesn't, but i'm reaching, here
23:24<Chutt>snowman, current delay looks to be about 5 minutes, with it being pretty even between www->relay and relay->speakeasy
23:25<bline>Chutt: how would I dump that?
23:25<Chutt>i dunno
23:26<Chutt>i'd have to look at it
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23:28<Chutt>line 411
23:28<Chutt>FILE *blah = fopen("/tmp/blah.raw", "a");
23:28<Chutt>fwrite(buffer, len, sizeof(char), blah);
23:29<Chutt>run that until it goes wonky, then stop recoring or playback or whatnot =)
23:29<Chutt>then move blah.raw away, and you'll probably want to get rid of that bit of code
23:29<Chutt>to convert blah.raw to a .wav file
23:30<Chutt>well, could just play it
23:30<Chutt>yeah. play -r 48000 -c 2 -f s -s w blah.raw
23:30<Chutt>and see if that exhibits the same wonkiness
23:31<Snow-Man>Chutt: Nice.
23:31<Snow-Man>I'm off to bed, glad things have been working.
23:34<Chutt>s'm i
23:35<Chutt>err, so'm
23:35<Chutt>thanks =)
23:35<bline>no cutout in the raw audio
23:36<Chutt>well, that's good
23:36<Chutt>mean's it's definately a playback bug
23:38<Chutt>you don't happen to have a analog card you can test with, do you?
23:38<Chutt>just to see if it happens with those
23:39<bline>I have a wintv go, but I loaned it to a friend :(
23:39<Chutt>does it happen faster if you turn on aggressive audio buffering?
23:40<bline>I can call him tonight and have him bring it to work tomarrow
23:40<bline>I'll try it real quick
23:41<bline>where is that option again? heh
23:41<Chutt>general settings section, top level
23:42<bline>no help
23:43<Chutt>well, i figured it wouldn't help
23:43<Chutt>but does it happen faster or about the same time before it starts doing that?
23:45<bline>it happens much later it seems
23:46<Chutt>does it always take about the same amount of time to happen, with, say, live tv?
23:46<bline>also less often it seems
23:47<Chutt>ok, that answers that
23:47<Chutt>ah well :(
23:48<Chutt>i'm sorry, i still have no idea what it could be
23:48<bline>it's cool, I've been ok watching my recordings with xine
23:48<bline>i even wrote a quick perl script to select them
23:55<bline>maybe I should go back in cvs, see if I can narrow down when this started happening
23:55<Chutt>that'd be cool
23:55<Chutt>if you can narrow it down to a day or so =)
23:56<bline>I'll start with 3 weeks