| 00:00 | <mechou> | bline, I joined the channel late. Wht's the issue in a nutshell? I've got a cvs that more current than 3 weeks... |
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| 00:01 | <mechou> | are you guys saying this issue only occurs with pvr250 and myth? |
| 00:04 | <bline> | mechou: yeah, but it's not reproducable by most people. |
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| 00:47 | <ender> | hello all! |
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| 00:49 | <ender> | I've got an issue where mythtv is not able to open my audio device, yet every other app on the box is able to. It's a C Media 8738 and I have set mythtvsetup to use /dev/dsp as the audio device. I've proved that this works by catting a file into /dev/dsp and I get noise from the sound card. |
| 00:49 | <ender> | mythtv just gives me "Player: Can't open audio device: " |
| 00:49 | <ender> | which follows a bunch of "open: No such file or directory" |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | set the output device, not the input device. |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | the setup program is only input, of course. |
| 00:50 | <tmk> | sup chutt |
| 00:51 | <ender> | it's set to /dev/dsp as well. |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | ender, if it were set to /dev/dsp, then it'd say 'Can't open audio device: /dev/dsp' |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | tmk, hey |
| 00:52 | <tmk> | did i hear that the audio bug with the pvr's and myth is a myth problem? |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | that bline and i have been discussing? |
| 00:52 | <tmk> | skipping audio that is |
| 00:52 | <tmk> | aye |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | apparently |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | doesn't happen on any of my machines |
| 00:52 | <tmk> | cool |
| 00:52 | * tmk | scratches that off the fixit list ;) |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | fix the damn whine |
| 00:52 | <tmk> | heh |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | please :p |
| 00:53 | <ender> | Chutt: I'm using the mythfrontend ot make the change. |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | i can roll a special patch for you |
| 00:53 | <ender> | Chutt: is there a text file that should be edited instead? |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | that can't change audio input |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | but has no whine |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | i've already got that if i want it |
| 00:53 | <Timon> | Anyone heard from moegreen lately? |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | poptix did it awhile ago. |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | hehe then why complain? |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | ya |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | because people complain about it rather often |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | oh |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | :< |
| 00:53 | <tmk> | i'll bump that up |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | timon, friday, why? |
| 00:57 | <Timon> | Chutt: Just curious, had a few things I wanted to ask him around mythvideo. More specificly, I've been wanting to add a manual entry box for it, but was having some issues around it. |
| 00:58 | <ender> | where are the configs actually kept? In mysql? |
| 00:58 | <Timon> | (Plus hes the one who maintains mythvideo and as such will most likely commit my recent patch to allow it to grab movie posters from sites other than imdb) |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | ender, yup. |
| 01:00 | <ender> | Chutt: and where/what would be the record that tells mythtv what to use as an output device? |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | settings table |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | i don't recall the actual name offhand |
| 01:02 | <ender> | there is nothing that seems to fit in my settings table. |
| 01:02 | <ender> | perhaps it didn't get set? |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | it's AudioOutputDevice |
| 01:03 | <ender> | yep, i tdidn't get put into my sql. |
| 01:03 | <ender> | wait whoops, yes it did. |
| 01:03 | <ender> | wow I'm blind. but it's set to /dev/dsp as I thought. |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | figure out why it's not getting used, then |
| 01:07 | <ender> | ugh, this is lame. I can't seem to mute the line in enough. I can still hear it. lame ass sound card. |
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| 01:16 | <bline> | went six weeks back and still cuts, I think maybe this has always been the case and I just didn't notice it until I turned the bitrate down |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | try to figure out what's interrupting the write audio thread |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | (in audiooutputoss.cpp) |
| 01:19 | <bline> | ok, I'll look at it some more tomarrow, it's past my bed time |
| 01:19 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | looks like the dumbasses that write xmltv changed the tv_grab_na format |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | is xmltv like a free tv listings service? |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | no |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | it steals listings off of websites |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | ah |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | tvguide/yahoo? |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | zap2it.com |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | aka, tribune media services |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | shrug |
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| 01:42 | <Chutt2> | wonderful |
| 01:43 | <bigguy> | what's up? |
| 01:46 | <Chutt2> | nothin |
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| 02:03 | <Chutt> | blah. |
| 02:11 | <radsaq> | <Chutt> heh |
| 02:16 | <SebLappy> | anyone know of a place to find a decent priced 1u or 2u psu? |
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| 02:31 | <Seela> | Anybody have ideas on how to prevent the "QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" error? I'm running Mandrake 9.1, i can access mysql via the command line, and my QTDIR env var is set correctly (/usr/lib/qt3) |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | install the qt mysql driver. |
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| 02:32 | <Seela> | okay thanks.. was that not covered in the docs? I tried to go through the docs with a fine toothed comb before bugging people :P |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | it's covered 4 or 5 times in the docs. |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | especially for mandrake. |
| 02:33 | <Seela> | hrmmm lemme doublecheck to see if i did that then |
| 02:35 | <Seela> | ahh yep there it is, right there in front of my face |
| 02:35 | <Seela> | sorry for wasting other's time |
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| 02:49 | <tmk> | hey isaac |
| 02:49 | <tmk> | you still up? |
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| 03:28 | <Seela> | Anybody know how many days out mythfilldatabase goes to populate? |
| 03:28 | <Seela> | i'm pondering just letting this run while i go to bed :P |
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| 08:50 | <Snow-Man> | Is there a website which shows the channel listings that the xmltv thing or whatever grabs? |
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| 08:52 | <Conaz> | Snow-Man: if you go to zap2it.com |
| 08:52 | <Conaz> | Snow-Man: you'll be prompted for the same things that you are with the grab_na prog |
| 08:52 | <Conaz> | Snow-Man: and end up with the same listing |
| 08:54 | <Snow-Man> | ok |
| 08:54 | <Conaz> | Snow-Man: navigate to TV, then TV Listings on the left side bar |
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| 10:15 | <krowi> | hoi |
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| 10:48 | <mithro> | anyone here know much about how mythtv and xmltv interact? |
| 10:49 | <captain_proton> | its like the odd couple really |
| 10:50 | <bline> | mithro: if you are having trouble, there was a recient commit about fixing some conflicts |
| 10:50 | <mithro> | is it important to output the channel information? instead of just the other stuff? |
| 10:51 | <Chutt> | if you don't want people to have to enter their channels manually, yes. |
| 10:51 | <mithro> | i'm writing something to produce xmltv from tv.au.yahoo.com |
| 10:55 | <mithro> | with what arguments does it call tv_grab_<blah> with? |
| 10:55 | <Chutt> | anything you want it to |
| 10:56 | <mithro> | he he, what are the normal arguments? |
| 10:56 | <Chutt> | there aren't any. |
| 10:56 | <Chutt> | it selects based on the grabber. |
| 10:58 | <mithro> | but defaults to none? |
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| 10:58 | <Chutt> | it selects what arguments to call based on the grabber. |
| 10:58 | <Chutt> | there is no default. |
| 10:59 | <Chutt> | really, you should be modelling your grabber after an existing one. |
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| 11:07 | <bline> | mornin Chutt |
| 11:08 | <Chutt> | howdy |
| 11:12 | <mithro> | Chutt: i'm trying to... however i hate perl so i'm writing in python |
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| 11:40 | <mithro> | hrm i getting a "Error in 8:4: unexpected character" |
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| 11:45 | <mithro> | only i can't figure out whats causing it... |
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| 12:06 | <Chutt2> | bline, can you test something? |
| 12:07 | <Chutt2> | just thought of something.. |
| 12:07 | <Chutt2> | NuppelVideoPlayer.h, change the MAXVBUFFERS define to, oh, 26 instead of 21 |
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| 12:10 | <bline> | Chutt: sorry, at work |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | well, give that a try when you can =) |
| 12:10 | <bline> | I'll make a note for when I go home in a few |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | it _may_ be that the card's producing video frames at a different rate than the audio frames |
| 12:10 | <bline> | I couldn't sleep last night so I'll probably head home soon |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | and a couple more frames of buffering will help |
| 12:11 | <bline> | Chutt: would that account for lower bitrate == more cutout? |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | quite possibly |
| 12:11 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | i'm running at 480x480 with a avg and peak of 1000kbps |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | looks horrible |
| 12:13 | <bline> | this layer2 audio bitrate stuff is a pita |
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| 12:13 | <Chutt> | tmk, so does that really fix the whine by just going to mono mode? |
| 12:13 | <bline> | the bitrate you use changed what modes are available with layer2 |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | bline, yup |
| 12:14 | <bline> | pain |
| 12:14 | <bline> | what if you set the wrong bitrate to mode? |
| 12:14 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 12:14 | <tmk> | dunno |
| 12:15 | <bline> | I wonder if the firmware will just use the default |
| 12:15 | <tmk> | all i did was look at the old settings and the new, whiny ones |
| 12:15 | <tmk> | then i made them the same |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | i kind of need stereo :p |
| 12:15 | <tmk> | then whine it is! |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | the whole dolby surround thing, ya know =) |
| 12:15 | <Snow-Man> | Things still working decently? :) |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | snowman, yeah |
| 12:15 | <tmk> | bah dolby surround |
| 12:15 | <Snow-Man> | Damn I rawk. |
| 12:15 | <tmk> | just turn down the trble and send the same signal all around |
| 12:16 | <Snow-Man> | You people talk too much, btw. |
| 12:16 | <Chutt> | in here? |
| 12:16 | <Snow-Man> | No, on the mailing lists. :) |
| 12:17 | <Conaz> | Hehee, I went out of town for the weekend, that was way too much reading to catch up on |
| 12:18 | <Snow-Man> | I wonder just how closely one can compare it to lkml. |
| 12:18 | <Chutt> | not at all? :p |
| 12:19 | <mithro> | how does the epg color the backgrounds of the programs? |
| 12:19 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Erm, in terms of size and volume..? |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | mithro, there's a category name -> color mapping in the theme |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | snowman, what's lkml like in terms of # of messages these days? |
| 12:19 | <Chutt> | when you take into account your dsl, then sure, probably =) |
| 12:20 | <Snow-Man> | I think it's still like 100/dayish, maybe more. |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | and there's patches and junk sent to that list |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | and i'm sure the subscriber list is a tad higher |
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| 12:21 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm, according to vger it's more like 200-300/day. |
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| 12:22 | <Snow-Man> | He doesn't seem to give a number of subscribers anywhere. |
| 12:22 | <Chutt> | current delay is: 15 minutes |
| 12:22 | <Chutt> | 2 minutes to go from www->relay, then the rest to deliver |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | bline, i just sent that tweak request out to the mailing list, so hopefully someone'll take me up on that =) |
| 12:23 | <Snow-Man> | Yeah, I tried to cut down on the www->relay time. |
| 12:24 | <Snow-Man> | relay's getting pretty loaded again, must be alot of stuff happening atm. |
| 12:27 | <Snow-Man> | Heh, 9 messages in the past 30 minutes. |
| 12:27 | * Chutt | adds to the problem |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | make that 10 :p |
| 12:27 | * Snow-Man | sighs. |
| 12:27 | <Snow-Man> | :) |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | yea yea |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | once we get the colo and stuff, all good |
| 12:28 | <Snow-Man> | You keep saying that. |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | won't have to worry about network load |
| 12:28 | <Snow-Man> | It's not just network load. :) |
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| 12:28 | <Chutt> | so what's slowing down the current setup? |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | cpu? |
| 12:29 | <Chutt> | it's rather decent on low traffic |
| 12:29 | <Snow-Man> | Some of it is network load, some of it is that you can't break the message up into 1 per user so people get stuck behind other people who have shitty servers. |
| 12:30 | <tmk> | nice domain there poptix |
| 12:30 | <Snow-Man> | The more you break up a message though the more processes that get started which can load the machine down. |
| 12:30 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:30 | <tmk> | the archiving is what really eats the CPU tho |
| 12:30 | <Snow-Man> | Unless you go to defer'd mode and set a number of queue runners to process it. |
| 12:30 | <Snow-Man> | tmk: Not on the relay server it doesn't. :) |
| 12:30 | <mithro> | woot my tv_grab_aus2 is mostely working |
| 12:30 | <tmk> | ah sory i was only half following along ;) |
| 12:31 | <Snow-Man> | Can't run defer'd mode on relay though because it accepts inbound mail from places. |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | snowman's got mail going through 3 different machines for the lists |
| 12:31 | <Snow-Man> | And besides, it was seeming to be slower. |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | it was a lot slower |
| 12:31 | <tmk> | Chutt: hey have you tried just turning down the treble a bit to see if that fixes the whine? |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | why would that fix it? |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | it'd just mask it |
| 12:32 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: All the real work for the list is done on relay. :P |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | world->ns->relay->www->*mailman->www->relay->world |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 12:32 | <Snow-Man> | Sure, but it's all one message until it hits relay and gets split up to go out to everyone. |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | aye |
| 12:32 | <tmk> | Chutt: I'm not sure if it's an initial setting issue or something else |
| 12:33 | <tmk> | it may not matter at all |
| 12:33 | <Snow-Man> | And world->ns->relay->www should be very little time currently. |
| 12:33 | <ender> | so, any of you have a good method to re-encode the mythtv recorded shows into some more portable format? |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | 'bout a minute |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | ender, read the howto. |
| 12:33 | <Snow-Man> | I'm suprised it's that much. |
| 12:33 | <Chutt> | well, not that much |
| 12:33 | <mithro> | is there a way to restore default settings on a page? |
| 12:34 | <ender> | Chutt: patching mplayer isn't exactly the "portable" I imagined. |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | um |
| 12:34 | <Snow-Man> | mailman will take some amount of time, www->relay shouldn't take much time, and then it's all on relay for the real delivery work. |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | it'll reencode them into a more portable format. |
| 12:34 | <Chutt> | which is exactly what you just asked. |
| 12:35 | <Chutt> | or, just buy a wintv pvr-* and it'll just use mpeg2 |
| 12:35 | <ender> | Chutt: I meant something that I could burn to VCD |
| 12:35 | <Chutt> | ender, you do know that mplayer has an encoder in it, right? |
| 12:35 | <bline> | doesn't mythmkmovie do that? |
| 12:35 | <Chutt> | bline, yeah, it uses mplayer :p |
| 12:36 | <ender> | ok, let me rephrase. Any of you have a DECENT method... |
| 12:36 | <bline> | heh |
| 12:36 | <Snow-Man> | Daytime soaps suck. |
| 12:36 | <Chutt> | ender, what do you want? |
| 12:36 | <Chutt> | ender, mplayer has an encoder. you want an encoder that takes the .nuv format and puts it in something else. mplayer _does this_ with the patch |
| 12:36 | <ender> | is mplayer/mythmkmovie scriptable? |
| 12:36 | <Chutt> | are you just dense? |
| 12:36 | * poptix | perks |
| 12:36 | <poptix> | Chutt: mailing list running on mailman? |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | poptix, yeah |
| 12:37 | <ender> | Chutt: re-encoding every file by hand is not my idea of a "decent" method. |
| 12:37 | <poptix> | and let me guess, the archiving is killing it |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | ender, then come up with something else. |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | poptix, no. |
| 12:37 | <Snow-Man> | What is with people? |
| 12:37 | <ender> | I was asking if any of YOU already had. |
| 12:37 | <ender> | obviously not. |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | i answered you, you didn't listen. |
| 12:37 | <tmk> | poptix: i said that earlier :) |
| 12:37 | <mithro> | can somebody tell me the default sizes on "Small" font, "Medium" Font and "Big" Font? |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | poptix, archiving takes no time at all |
| 12:37 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Oh, just kick him already. |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | snowman, that's no fun |
| 12:38 | <Snow-Man> | It takes *some* time. |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | i'd have to identify with nickserv |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | ask chanserv to op me |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | pain in the ass |
| 12:38 | <Snow-Man> | But it doesn't matter because the webserver doesn't really do jack. |
| 12:38 | <poptix> | the problem with mailman archiving is that it pushes everything into one gigantic mbox |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | mithro, crack open programs/mythfrontend/globalsettings.cpp |
| 12:39 | <poptix> | hmm, it's only 41MB |
| 12:39 | <Snow-Man> | poptix: Actually that doesn't appear to really be a problem for these lists. |
| 12:39 | <poptix> | yeah, not yet =) |
| 12:39 | <Chutt> | ender, you asked for a encoder, that's mplayer. if you're now asking for a script that automates it all, that's mythmkmovie, as bline said. |
| 12:39 | <mithro> | Chutt: thanks |
| 12:40 | <Snow-Man> | poptix: <Shrug> We'll see. |
| 12:40 | <poptix> | well, if it turns into a worse problem where messages are getting lost, or severely delayed, i've got a system that can run the list |
| 12:40 | <poptix> | dual athlon mp 2000+ on a 10mbit line |
| 12:41 | <poptix> | sitting idle =p |
| 12:41 | <Snow-Man> | You and Mekinsy are cousins!! Dum-dum-dum. |
| 12:41 | <Chutt> | poptix, we're moving everything to a better machine soon. |
| 12:41 | <Snow-Man> | poptix: If it becomes a problem then chances are pretty good there's something that could be done about it. |
| 12:42 | -!- | Chutt has changed the topic to: http://www.mythtv.org/ |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | people changing the topic, geez |
| 12:42 | <poptix> | alrighty |
| 12:42 | * poptix | looks for something else to do with the bandwidth |
| 12:43 | <poptix> | currently it's shared between 4 dialup modems =p |
| 12:43 | <poptix> | slight overkill |
| 12:43 | <Snow-Man> | Sounds like a real problem. |
| 12:43 | <ender> | ok next (potentially flamebait) question.. grep -ir of "mythmkmovie" returned no results in /usr/share/doc/myth-$version-/, and I don't see it in the web page's documentation. Am I not only stupid, but blind as well? |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | google for it. |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | it's not distributed with mythtv |
| 12:44 | <Chutt> | and i don't have the url handy |
| 12:44 | <ender> | ah. |
| 12:45 | <ender> | http://www.icelus.org/ <-- that seems to be it. |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | sounds right |
| 12:46 | <mithro> | anyone here develop mythvideo? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | moegreen's the main guy |
| 12:47 | <mithro> | just checking here before i mail the person in the readme file :) |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | who's in the readme? |
| 12:47 | <mithro> | mythweather really rocks.... |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | yeah, john danner is moegreen |
| 12:48 | <mithro> | john danner :) |
| 12:48 | <mithro> | okay cool; |
| 12:48 | <mithro> | going to try and get it work a bit nicer with episodes |
| 12:48 | <mithro> | so far my mythtv experiance has been very good :) |
| 12:49 | <Chutt> | tmk, do you know if changing the bitrate of the video affects how often it interleaves audio with the video bits? |
| 12:51 | <Chutt> | i don't see why it would, but.. |
| 12:53 | <mithro> | anyone here a mythtv artist? |
| 12:54 | <mithro> | i need a mythdvd icon for the blue theme |
| 12:55 | <ender> | thank you (belated). mythmkmovie seems to be what I need, now to see if it's scriptable. |
| 12:57 | <Conaz> | If you are planning on using cutlists with mythmkmovie you might want to try it out on one file first and see if the very slight sound offset will annoy you too much |
| 12:58 | <ender> | hrm, cutlists? |
| 13:00 | <Conaz> | If you've marked the commercials |
| 13:04 | <tmk> | Chutt: not sure |
| 13:05 | <tmk> | all the encoding is done on-chip.. i just push bits around :) |
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| 13:05 | <tmk> | why do you ask? |
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| 13:09 | <Chutt> | thinking that the audio buffer might be draining on playback which is causing those sound cutouts people are hearing |
| 13:09 | <ender> | Conaz: ah. I'm not sure if I marked commercials or not. Perhaps it would be better if I didn't? would the audio still be out of synch if I skip commercials all together? |
| 13:11 | <Chutt> | ah well, i should have confirmation either way soon |
| 13:12 | <tmk> | did you change the buffer? |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:12 | <Chutt> | i don't see the issue, though |
| 13:12 | <tmk> | ah |
| 13:12 | <tmk> | yeah those are the worst.. |
| 13:16 | <Conaz> | ender: I think if you don't cut out the commercials the audio is fine |
| 13:16 | <Conaz> | Although I haven't tried |
| 13:17 | <Conaz> | Since my main goal was to cut out the commercials and then save the resulting media file onto CD |
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| 13:27 | <marc> | hello... |
| 13:28 | <marc> | when I manually add a line to channel in mythconverg (mysql), mythtv does not jump to that channel with the up/down keys. |
| 13:28 | <marc> | what am I missing? |
| 13:32 | <ender> | Conaz: yeah thats mine too. |
| 13:33 | <ender> | but I can live w/ commercials if it'll mean that audio is in sync. out of sync audio would drive me NUTS. |
| 13:34 | <Conaz> | Yes, I hear ya, even though it is only very slightly off |
| 13:34 | <Conaz> | you might want to try one and see for yourself |
| 13:34 | <ender> | slightly is enough (; |
| 13:34 | <ender> | I will. |
| 13:34 | <ender> | so this mkmovie is basically just making a single frame AVI for eveyr frame in the video file, then compiling all these frames into a movie again? |
| 13:37 | <Conaz> | ender: I do belive so |
| 13:38 | <Conaz> | believe even |
| 13:38 | <Snow-Man> | How do I update the database of channels with a new .xmltv file? |
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| 13:40 | <just1nux> | chutt, or anyoneelse who knows the answer...if i turn off dnr to get rid of ghostings on the pvr-250, does that mean i cant change the bitrate it encodes at anymore? the ivtv app shows the correct bitrate but it doesnt seem have any effect on the file sizes for me anymore. |
| 13:41 | <tmk> | justin_: no they should be independant |
| 13:41 | <tmk> | err |
| 13:41 | <tmk> | just1nux: you may need to change the bitrate after you change the dnr setting |
| 13:42 | <tmk> | i've not tried many of the settings |
| 13:42 | <just1nux> | wierd. it used to work fine, then i updated to the current ivtv cvs started using the thingn to get rid of the annoying ghosting and now, no matter what bitrate i use, i get the huge files. |
| 13:42 | <just1nux> | ive tried that |
| 13:42 | <tmk> | hmm |
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| 13:42 | <tmk> | it's possible that someone put in a patch atht breaks the bitrate settings |
| 13:42 | <just1nux> | ive changed it 4 times, and still the same, do i need to restart mythbackend? |
| 13:43 | <tmk> | have you tried setting the stuff via the ivtv tools? |
| 13:43 | <tmk> | test_ioctl |
| 13:43 | <just1nux> | yep, thats what ive been using |
| 13:43 | <just1nux> | it even shows the right bitrate when i use -C |
| 13:43 | <tmk> | and does the bitrate setting work with dnr turned on? |
| 13:44 | <just1nux> | havent tried turnign it back on.. i will though. |
| 13:44 | <Snow-Man> | hmm, hmm. |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | just1nux: try #ivtv-dev for pvr problems |
| 13:46 | <just1nux> | ok, np just thought id ask here first incase it was a known thing |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | just1nux, works fine here |
| 13:50 | <Chutt> | and, the dnr_mode stuff isn't necessary anymore with current cvs |
| 13:51 | <tmk> | yeah we set it to 0's automatically |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | and, how's your theme coming? =) |
| 13:52 | <tmk> | you might want to try and get different firmware |
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| 13:57 | <just1nux> | chutt: i got a couple more screens down, no captures of them eyt though |
| 13:59 | <just1nux> | chutt: is it posible to position icons relative to the overall screen and not offset from where the button is? im thinking no. |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | talking about the menu? |
| 13:59 | <just1nux> | yeah |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | yeah, you can't |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | since it positions the buttons for you.. |
| 14:00 | <just1nux> | yeah i know the button is positioned for me, thats fine. i just wanted all the icons in the same place, so that you would only see the on that you are over at the moment...less clutter. |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | i could make it do that |
| 14:01 | <just1nux> | just would need the option of an absolute position instead of an offset. |
| 14:01 | <Chutt> | well |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | you'd want one static positions for all the icons, right? |
| 14:02 | <just1nux> | yeah |
| 14:02 | <Chutt> | like, you'll have buttons somewhere on screen, and the shown icon will change depending which is highlighted? |
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| 14:03 | <just1nux> | exactly. |
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| 14:03 | <just1nux> | (although it may be larger and more graphical than an icon.) |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | right |
| 14:03 | <Chutt> | i can do that |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | would you want it in addition to the icons, perhaps? |
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| 14:04 | <just1nux> | :) cool. that might make it more flexible. call it a picture or something instead. |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:05 | <just1nux> | i wasnt planning to use both, but some people might want that. |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | would this be overlapping the buttons? |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | at all? |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | since that would make it more difficult to do with the current method of drawing the buttons |
| 14:05 | <just1nux> | i wasnt planning to |
| 14:05 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit. |
| 14:05 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 14:05 | <Snow-Man> | tv guide is right, the zap2it thing appears to be wrong. |
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| 14:06 | <just1nux> | i was mostly just trying to find a way to make screen less cluttered with icons but still have the identifiability of the icons. |
| 14:07 | <Snow-Man> | ok, it's 'Device D', supposedly. |
| 14:10 | <Peit|Home> | hmm, does mythtv not do streaming across the network? |
| 14:10 | <Chutt> | of course it does. |
| 14:11 | <Chutt> | it has for half a year. |
| 14:11 | <just1nux> | wired...networks. (wireless = too slow) |
| 14:11 | <marc> | sorry for bothering... |
| 14:12 | <marc> | when i add a channel to channel table in mysql |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | you didn't add the channel right. |
| 14:12 | <marc> | mythfrontend doesn't allow me to select it |
| 14:12 | <marc> | with up/down keys |
| 14:12 | <Snow-Man> | hehe. |
| 14:12 | <zaheer> | just1nux: its fine on my 802.11b network |
| 14:12 | <Snow-Man> | I like Chutt's response-before-question. :) |
| 14:13 | <Snow-Man> | What's the story on the TV listings anyway? It sounds like there might be some trouble getting them in the future? |
| 14:13 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: hmm, I'm not seeing _any_ network traffic after the initial connection |
| 14:13 | <Snow-Man> | At least, when I was searching around for answers to some things people were saying stuff like that. |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | zap2it could always shut down access to it |
| 14:13 | <Chutt> | peit|home, then you don't have it setup right. read the howto. |
| 14:13 | <marc> | chutt: how do I add it 'right'? |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | marc, i don't know, you're the one adding things to the database by hand |
| 14:14 | <Peit|Home> | if i rung strace mythtv i get a lot of "--- SIGRTMIN (Unknown signal 32) ---" and a number of others in a loop |
| 14:14 | <Chutt> | strace is useless. |
| 14:15 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: But they're not that likely to? Or at least, they havn't yet. |
| 14:15 | <Chutt> | snowman, it's up to them |
| 14:15 | <Snow-Man> | Well, sure, but are they actively looking at it or something? |
| 14:15 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't know |
| 14:15 | <marc> | chutt, copying what another line in the db says, then changing chanid and channum and callsign |
| 14:16 | <marc> | and xmltvid |
| 14:16 | <Snow-Man> | ok, some guy said he talked to the VP of some place or other. |
| 14:16 | * Snow-Man | shrugs. |
| 14:16 | <marc> | switching channels does show channum in the OSD btw, although I selected channel name |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | there is no setting to change the channum in the osd. |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | marc, if it's ignoring the channel in the database, it's not setup properly. |
| 14:17 | <Chutt> | that's _your_ issue. |
| 14:17 | <Snow-Man> | hehe |
| 14:18 | <marc> | setup -> tv settings -> playback -> general |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | since you're bypassing everything that adds things to the database automatically |
| 14:18 | <marc> | 'display channel names instead of numbers' |
| 14:18 | <marc> | need to. I am trying to use nxtvepg for loading epg stuff |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | that's for the playback box and program guide. |
| 14:18 | <Chutt> | not the osd. |
| 14:19 | <marc> | ok. thanks |
| 14:19 | <marc> | where can i check in setup? Running mythfilldatabase --file with an xmltv file from nxtvepg |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | figure it out yourself |
| 14:20 | <Chutt> | you're going beyond what mythtv does |
| 14:20 | <marc> | well, thanks for the support... |
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| 14:21 | <Chutt> | you expect free tech support? |
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| 14:22 | <Chutt> | there's a single function in mythtv that pulls the channel data out of the database to see if it can be tuned to. |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | you _could_ add some debugging to there to figure out what's going wrong |
| 14:22 | <Chutt> | but that would take effort, i suppose |
| 14:22 | <marc> | i'm just illiterate in all things programming |
| 14:22 | <marc> | i am comfortable with sql |
| 14:22 | <marc> | and enjoy tinkering around with stuff |
| 14:23 | <marc> | but anything remotely c-like scares me to hell |
| 14:32 | <Seela> | it's time to face your fears, my son! |
| 14:33 | <Seela> | tinker with it, the worst thing you can do is screw it up beyond repair.. then just check it out of CVS and try again :P |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | and it's fairly simple code -- it's just doing some sql selects |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp, DoGetNextChannel() |
| 14:34 | <marc> | ok, I'll see to find it... |
| 14:35 | <marc> | but I warn you, should the universe bluescreen, it wasn't my fault ;-) |
| 14:36 | <ender> | Conaz: how long does it take your system to re-encode a movie file? |
| 14:37 | <ender> | mine's been going almost 2 hours now on a 20minute file. |
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| 14:46 | <Conaz> | ender: does it keep saying the same filename? |
| 14:49 | <Conaz> | ender: there is a loop in there where it checks the exit value of mencoder, and if it fails, it will simply loop over and over creating the first of two stub files |
| 14:49 | <Conaz> | What you should do, is stop the process, and copy the command that it is running, and paste it in the command line |
| 14:49 | <Conaz> | And see if mencoder is failing |
| 14:59 | <Snow-Man> | Damnit. I keep getting pauses. |
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| 15:01 | <Conaz> | pauses in your recordings? |
| 15:01 | <Snow-Man> | In watching live tv. |
| 15:01 | <Chutt> | do you still have it compiled in debug mode? |
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| 15:04 | <Chutt> | just1nux, just added those button pictures you wanted |
| 15:04 | <ender> | Conaz: ah thats what it's doing. |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | to use em: |
| 15:05 | <Conaz> | ender: let me check what I was missing |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | in theme.xml, in the <genericbutton> definition. add a <watermarkposition>x,y</watermarkposition> |
| 15:05 | <Chutt> | then each button defined later on can have a <watermarkimage>imagepath</watermarkimage> |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | in addition to a button icon or whatnot |
| 15:06 | <Conaz> | ender: I had to install libpng-devel and then re-compile mplayer packages |
| 15:06 | <ender> | Error: suboption 'w' of 'mf' must have a parameter! |
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| 15:06 | <Conaz> | that doesn't sound familiar |
| 15:07 | <Conaz> | ender: I recall mine was complaining about building the png file |
| 15:07 | <ender> | hrm. |
| 15:08 | <ender> | I'll have to patch mplayer and try it again. |
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| 15:09 | <Conaz> | ender: good luck |
| 15:09 | <Snow-Man> | ii mythtv-backend 0.9.1-1 A personal video recorder application (serve |
| 15:09 | <Snow-Man> | Using the 0.9.1 debs |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | oh well |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | try cvs, see if it's better |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | what's cpu like |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | make sure dma is turned on |
| 15:10 | <Chutt> | etc etc etc |
| 15:14 | <just1nux> | Chutt, cool! |
| 15:14 | <just1nux> | chutt, ill give it a try |
| 15:14 | <Chutt> | you'll have to update to current cvs, of course =) |
| 15:14 | <just1nux> | of course :) |
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| 15:17 | <just1nux> | chutt: thanks for making that change. |
| 15:17 | <Chutt> | no problemo |
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| 15:18 | <bline> | home at last |
| 15:19 | <Chutt> | bline, i checked that in just now, so you could just update to current cvs and see if it helps |
| 15:19 | <Snow-Man> | [1]+ Segmentation fault mythbackend |
| 15:19 | <Snow-Man> | heh. |
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| 15:19 | <bline> | ok Chutt, I was just looking through logs to see what it was :) |
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| 15:22 | <Chutt> | it will need a complete make clean, etc, since i bumped the lib version up due to something else |
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| 15:25 | <bline> | okie |
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| 15:37 | <bline> | Chutt: that fixed it |
| 15:37 | <bline> | ! |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | how's a/v sync? |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | 'specially after seeking |
| 15:39 | <bline> | It's slow motion for about 1/4 sec after I seek |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:39 | <bline> | it's very useable though |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | try turning on the aggressive audio buffering |
| 15:40 | <bline> | that didn't seem to affect it |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | oh well |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | avsync's perfect here after seeking |
| 15:40 | <bline> | it's really not very noticable |
| 15:41 | <bline> | so what was it? |
| 15:41 | <bline> | wow, this hasn't worked for a long time, I didn't realize how much I missed it |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | apparently changing the bitrate affects how it interleaves audio and video packets |
| 15:41 | <bline> | Thanks |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | so when the video buffer was full, it'd drain the audio buffer |
| 15:42 | <bline> | Do you think the audio bitrate settings could help this? |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | potentially |
| 15:42 | <bline> | I should finish this UI thing |
| 15:42 | <bline> | man audio is a bitch |
| 15:43 | <bline> | I mean that massive bitfield |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | that needs helper functions in the driver |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | user apps shouldn't be messing with stuff like that |
| 15:44 | <bline> | hmm, how would that work? Are there v4l2 ioctl's for that? |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | there could be =) |
| 15:45 | <bline> | I may just look into patching that into the driver |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | well, driver extensions to the standard ones, at least |
| 15:45 | <bline> | if there is |
| 15:45 | <tmk> | v4l is video only |
| 15:45 | <tmk> | there are probably audio api's for it tho |
| 15:45 | <bline> | it has some capture stuff |
| 15:45 | <tmk> | i need to implement audio for the YUV stuff anyhoo |
| 15:46 | <tmk> | s/i/someone |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | no more driver patches from me for a bit |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | i just got tired of people asking why pal was all messed up =) |
| 15:47 | <tmk> | what's pal |
| 15:47 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 15:47 | <bline> | heh |
| 15:47 | <tmk> | pal seems to work differently than does ntsc |
| 15:48 | <tmk> | the digitizer can do ntsc fine with just one task |
| 15:48 | <tmk> | but pal doesn't work for some reason |
| 15:48 | <tmk> | needs 'continuous mode' |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | odd |
| 15:49 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 15:49 | <tmk> | i thought so too |
| 15:49 | <tmk> | but i don'thave PAL to play with |
| 15:49 | <bline> | move to europe |
| 15:49 | <tmk> | do people seem to like the arbitrary sized video option |
| 15:50 | <tmk> | or do they keep to the standard sizes? |
| 15:50 | <tmk> | heh then i'd need to get a new card |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | i record at 480x480 |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | looks the same on the tv, and it's easier on the crappy mini-itx i have out in the living room |
| 15:50 | <tmk> | cool |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | but that's a fairly standard size |
| 15:51 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 15:51 | <tmk> | i thought it was really neat when i found i could do arbitrary sizes |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | i dunno, it's kind of not all that useful |
| 15:51 | <tmk> | since it's usually pretty restrictive |
| 15:51 | <tmk> | well |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | if your computer is like 10% too slow |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | or something |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | it might be |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | true |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | but soon (hopefully) decoding will be hardware |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | so all that matters is i/o |
| 15:52 | <Chutt> | whaddya think the chances are of exposing it as a generic framebuffer? |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | does myth support any of the streaming i/o options? |
| 15:52 | <tmk> | i'll tryit |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | naw, it just does reads for now |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | didn't really see a reason to switch over |
| 15:53 | <tmk> | seems like it'd help in multiple tuner boxes |
| 15:53 | <tmk> | yuv is a lot of data |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | not doin yuv, though =) |
| 15:53 | <tmk> | not with the itv cards |
| 15:53 | <tmk> | but with bttv |
| 15:53 | <Chutt> | oh, it only does the streaming/mmap stuff for those |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | no support for the read interface there |
| 15:54 | <tmk> | ehhe |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | since yeah, it is slow for that much data |
| 15:54 | <tmk> | mmap eh |
| 15:54 | <tmk> | i was thinking user buffers would be easier to implement now that i look at it |
| 15:54 | <tmk> | not sure how the dma code would liek that tho |
| 15:56 | <tmk> | the thing i'm worried about with a framebuffer is video sync |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | well |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | thing is, you need some way to just display regular graphics on it |
| 15:56 | <tmk> | that's easy |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | with no video decoding |
| 15:56 | <tmk> | the osd code accepts rgb |
| 15:56 | <tmk> | not sure of the speed of that tho |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | and it'd be nice if that were to work like a normal framebuffer in linux |
| 15:57 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | so qt/embedded would work on it, potentially |
| 15:57 | <tmk> | i can certainly do yuv |
| 15:57 | <tmk> | if that's easier to convert to |
| 15:57 | <Chutt> | rgb would be good for the non-video "osd" |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | but yuv would be good for the blended into video osd |
| 15:58 | <tmk> | yeah that's the design it looked like |
| 15:58 | <tmk> | well what i'd like |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | but i could work with rgb all the time if necessary |
| 15:58 | <tmk> | is the osd layer to be avail separately |
| 15:58 | <tmk> | ie draw it on a separate buffer |
| 15:58 | <tmk> | and use the on-card alpha blendign and such |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | it's just that all the non-video stuff in mythtv uses Qt for drawing, and that needs to get to the card somehow =) |
| 15:59 | <tmk> | pip would have to be hacked tho |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | pip's pretty much a toy feature |
| 15:59 | <tmk> | :) |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | use it once or twice, then never again |
| 15:59 | <tmk> | ya |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | my tv has this featuer |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | where it uses 1 tuner to tune 9 pictures |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | updates each about once a second |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | that's kidn of neat |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | toy feature tho |
| 16:00 | <tmk> | so does QT just draw to an X display? |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | yeah, but qt/embedded talks to a framebuffer device |
| 16:01 | <tmk> | how hard would it be to redirect a framebuffer to memory somewhere |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure exactly how that all works, but mythtv does compile and run with their virtual framebuffer stuff |
| 16:01 | <tmk> | hm |
| 16:01 | <Chutt> | i think that's all their 'qvfb' does |
| 16:01 | <tmk> | well i suppose i should actually try it |
| 16:02 | <tmk> | before we get too far ahead of ourselves |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | redirects the framebuffer to an X window |
| 16:02 | <tmk> | what about the reverse of that |
| 16:02 | <tmk> | i think i might be able to get the ivytv decoder to do an overlay window |
| 16:02 | <tmk> | would that be nicer? |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | how would you do tv out? |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | video card |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | just like normal |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | i'm talking for a pvr250-rev1 |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | yeah, that'd work, too |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | i don't have a rev1 =) |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | since the rev1's have a decoder but no video out |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | heh |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | i do |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | but you could use the 350 to test it |
| 16:03 | <Chutt> | i'd like to use the -350 for tv out, though |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | ya |
| 16:03 | <tmk> | but for testing for rev1 folks |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | since i'm sure that the tv out on there's better than on a random video card |
| 16:04 | <tmk> | audio is another issue though.. not sure if i can grab the audio |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 16:04 | <tmk> | yeah no kidding |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | yeah, that may cause problems |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | no audio, be hard to do a/v sync |
| 16:04 | <tmk> | yeah :< |
| 16:05 | <tmk> | does your 250 have a row of 13 pins or so at the top |
| 16:05 | <tmk> | like the 350 does |
| 16:05 | <tmk> | a little header |
| 16:05 | <tmk> | I'm not sure what it's for, but it may be the digitizer's aux port |
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| 16:06 | <tmk> | my 250 doesn't have it btw |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | i'd have to open up a computer to see |
| 16:07 | <tmk> | no biggie |
| 16:07 | <tmk> | i still have to follow the traces to see where they go |
| 16:08 | <tmk> | so is myth like your fulltime job? |
| 16:08 | <ender> | Writing AVI header... |
| 16:08 | <ender> | libpng error: [0D]IHD: invalid chunk type |
| 16:08 | <Drikus> | tmk: http://www.shspvr.com/pvr2_faq.html |
| 16:08 | <ender> | hrm,... |
| 16:09 | <tmk> | thx |
| 16:09 | <tmk> | tis video input |
| 16:09 | <ender> | Conaz: I get a new error this time... |
| 16:12 | <bline> | tmk: would you take a patch that moved most of the audio stuff into v4l2 ioctl's? |
| 16:12 | <tmk> | i could |
| 16:12 | <tmk> | i'd have to make some up tho |
| 16:13 | <tmk> | i don't think v4l cares much for audio |
| 16:13 | <tmk> | but since it's part of the codec |
| 16:13 | <bline> | I know I saw an audio section in the docs |
| 16:13 | <tmk> | i'd likely put it in the compression one |
| 16:13 | <tmk> | yeah there's like "stereo/sap/etc" |
| 16:16 | <bline> | heh, yeah your right |
| 16:16 | <bline> | grr |
| 16:16 | <tmk> | it's part of the codec tho |
| 16:16 | <tmk> | it should go in the codec section |
| 16:17 | <bline> | let's just revise v4l2 |
| 16:17 | <tmk> | we are ;) |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | cool, ivtv driver just locked up |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 16:17 | * tmk | hides |
| 16:17 | <bline> | it was user error |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | suuure it was |
| 16:18 | <tmk> | how did it lock |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | right after starting a recording |
| 16:18 | <tmk> | long strings of errors? |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | don't know, i wasn't on a console |
| 16:18 | <tmk> | did it take like 10 seconds to return? |
| 16:18 | <bline> | tmk: Chutt is right though, that stuff is a little complicated without having some kind of wrapper around |
| 16:18 | <tmk> | which stuff |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | tmk, machine locked |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | audio settings? |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | ah |
| 16:19 | <bline> | yeah |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | how do you know it was ivtv/ |
| 16:19 | <Chutt> | because it _just_ had started a recording |
| 16:19 | <Chutt> | and nothing else but a driver can lock up a box |
| 16:19 | * tmk | blames the soundcard |
| 16:19 | <Chutt> | no playback :p |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | damn |
| 16:19 | <tmk> | must be the crappy firmware |
| 16:19 | * tmk | covered that up well |
| 16:20 | <tmk> | bline: i'm not sure the audio settings are even working |
| 16:20 | <tmk> | i don't think i put that code in |
| 16:20 | <tmk> | and the digitizer needs to be told when audio's chaning |
| 16:20 | <tmk> | +g |
| 16:20 | <bline> | you pass it to the driver from what I saw |
| 16:20 | <bline> | oh |
| 16:21 | <bline> | when it _does_ work it would be nicer to have an ioctl per setting rather than that very large bitfeild |
| 16:21 | <bline> | that would also make error checking in the driver better |
| 16:21 | <tmk> | i agree |
| 16:21 | <tmk> | make it so #1 |
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| 16:37 | * Snow-Man | attempts to watch tv again. |
| 16:38 | <Snow-Man> | Is it just me or does mythtv reset the main volume even though it's not what is controlled through the volume stuff? |
| 16:38 | * Snow-Man | renice's mythbackend to -10 |
| 16:39 | <Snow-Man> | Grrrr, still getting pauses. |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | you didn't answer any of my other questions about that |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | no support for you! |
| 16:40 | <Snow-Man> | haha, I didn't? |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> heh |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> oh well |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> try cvs, see if it's better |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> what's cpu like |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> make sure dma is turned on |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | <Chutt> etc etc etc |
| 16:40 | <Snow-Man> | cpu is 50% to mythbackend |
| 16:41 | <Snow-Man> | Make sure which is using dma? |
| 16:41 | <Snow-Man> | The disk? |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | the harddrive |
| 16:41 | <Chutt> | yea |
| 16:41 | <tmk> | hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| 16:42 | <Snow-Man> | AMD7411: disabling single-word DMA support (revision < C4) |
| 16:42 | <Snow-Man> | hrmmmm. |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | make sure you haven't messed up the default quality settings and stuff |
| 16:42 | <Snow-Man> | ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA |
| 16:42 | <Snow-Man> | ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | i'm assuming you're using mpeg4? |
| 16:42 | <Snow-Man> | Yes, using mpeg4, at like 4000 or something |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | hdparm, not dmesg |
| 16:42 | <Chutt> | silly. |
| 16:43 | <Snow-Man> | hdparm scares me. |
| 16:43 | <Chutt> | too bad |
| 16:43 | <Snow-Man> | haha |
| 16:44 | <Snow-Man> | using_dma = 1 (on) |
| 16:44 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 16:44 | <Chutt> | that wasn't so hard :p |
| 16:44 | <Snow-Man> | yea, well, I had to make sure it wasn't going to *do* anything. |
| 16:44 | <Snow-Man> | Unlike what tmk was suggesting. |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | that wouldn't have done anything |
| 16:45 | <Chutt> | since it was already on |
| 16:45 | <Snow-Man> | bah |
| 16:45 | <Snow-Man> | I havn't tried cvs yet but I suppose I will sometime soon. |
| 16:46 | <Snow-Man> | Of course, it seems to be working now. |
| 16:47 | <tmk> | Chutt: looks like the OSD API is setup likea framebuffer |
| 16:47 | <tmk> | complete with blt'ing |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 16:53 | <Snow-Man> | For which? |
| 16:53 | <tmk> | pvr-350 |
| 16:55 | <Snow-Man> | So how long till mythtv supports it? ;) |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | Hi! I've redesigned the database schema, but i don't know c++, so implement it for me, please! |
| 16:57 | <Snow-Man> | haha |
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| 17:05 | <billytwowilly> | is there a todo list for mythtv anywhere? there used to be one on the website, but it appears to be gone and a preliminary look through cvs doesn't pop anything up. |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | there isn't really one |
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| 17:06 | <billytwowilly> | doh;) |
| 17:06 | <billytwowilly> | I was looking forward to reading up on upcoming features;) |
| 17:07 | <billytwowilly> | I finally got my box working in some semblance of the way I want and now I'm getting excited about the future of the project. |
| 17:09 | <bline> | Chutt: alex worked on improving the mailing list archive over the weekend, I think you'll like the results once we update. |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | neat |
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| 17:26 | <Snow-Man> | There it went again. |
| 17:26 | <Snow-Man> | It seems to be doing it at the end of commercial breaks, actually. |
| 17:27 | <Snow-Man> | 19262 mythtv 15 -10 43396 32m 7156 S 42.3 6.5 20:08.12 mythbackend |
| 17:27 | <just1nux> | chutt: i just installed current cvs...can't seem to get the watermark thing to work. |
| 17:27 | <Snow-Man> | Still mad CPU usage. |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | just1nux, send me the theme? |
| 17:27 | <Snow-Man> | Of course, it's under gdb now, but it segfaulted, so what do you want from me? :) |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | snowman, uh, nothing? |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | you're a big boy, you know how to debug things |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | how exactly is 40% cpu 'mad cpu usage'? |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | software compression of video isn't exactly easy |
| 17:29 | <Snow-Man> | Sorry, just saying it's still using the same CPU it is other times. |
| 17:29 | <Snow-Man> | It's not like spinning out of control, but it's not sitting around doing nothing either. |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | turn off commercial skipping |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | the automatic stuff |
| 17:30 | <just1nux> | chutt: nevermind. the image i was using must have been blank or something. tried another one and it worked. |
| 17:40 | <Snow-Man> | I was thinking that might be it. |
| 17:41 | <Chutt> | freetype is just a large pile of crap. |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | 2.1.4-rc2 renders properly in the osd |
| 17:42 | <Snow-Man> | I need to just start recording stuff again. |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | 2.1.4 does not. |
| 17:42 | <Chutt> | piece of shit. |
| 17:43 | <Snow-Man> | I need to move to CVS sometime too so I don't get that other window popping up. :) |
| 17:43 | <Snow-Man> | The "Do you really wanna exit?" one. :) |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | it still gets shown. |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | just not as a separate window |
| 17:46 | <Snow-Man> | I know. |
| 17:46 | <Snow-Man> | That one guy did have a question I was wondering about and didn't see an answer.. Is mplayer scriptable? |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | there's a command line interface to it |
| 17:47 | <Snow-Man> | Cool. |
| 17:48 | <Snow-Man> | Not that I'd do something so foolish as record a movie off of TV and convert it to a different format for permanent storage with my other movies. |
| 17:48 | <Snow-Man> | 'cause, like, that might be illigal or something. |
| 17:48 | <Snow-Man> | :) |
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| 17:56 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, hi |
| 17:56 | * Snow-Man | sets up to record many hours of stuff. |
| 17:57 | <Snow-Man> | Need 'record this program on this channel at this time every night' |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | that's what the timeslot stuff does. |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | the 'on this channel' is implied |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | there |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | fixed the ttf crap |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 17:58 | <Snow-Man> | I must be missing something. |
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| 17:59 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hey, got bumped offline for some reason. |
| 17:59 | <Snow-Man> | Or, well, mythweb is missing that option |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | 'Record this program in this timeslot every [day/week]' |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | snowman, mythweb 0.9's broken when selecting single recordings |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | just to let you know =) |
| 18:00 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, fuck. |
| 18:00 | <Snow-Man> | :( |
| 18:00 | <Snow-Man> | Like, broken as in 'Record only this showing of the program' don't work? |
| 18:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | has mythweb ever been fixed to put in the dates properly for non-single recordings? |
| 18:00 | <Snow-Man> | And I'm guessing it's busted in 0.9.1 too, eh? |
| 18:01 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: been doing some more testing, (including moving my client from being a router to a straight box), I can see data on the network now, and hear the drive in the other machine doing its thing, mythfrontend starts up, but i don't get a video window, can this be blamed on enlightenment? |
| 18:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I think that was hosing me up when testing the weekslot stuff since a lot of my timeslot's didn't have dates specified. |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | if you select a program on a different day on the same channel and same time as an existing recording |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, i dunno |
| 18:01 | <Snow-Man> | hrmmm, dunno if I did that with any of this. |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | same start time, at least |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | it'll wipe out the existing recording |
| 18:02 | <Snow-Man> | Oh. Well, that's kinda annoying but not criminal at least. |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | it's fixed in cvs |
| 18:02 | <Snow-Man> | ok. |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | and mythweb doesn't have to be compiled or anything |
| 18:02 | <Snow-Man> | I'm gonna move to that soon anyway I guess. |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | so it can be upgraded easily |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 18:03 | <Snow-Man> | That's true. |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | i'm kinda thinking of putting out 0.10 soonish |
| 18:03 | <Snow-Man> | eh, whateva', I'm still just playing with it atm. |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | need to talk to moegreen/thor/captain_murdoch/mdz 'bout it |
| 18:03 | <bline> | 0.9.2? |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | 0.10 |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | too many changes :p |
| 18:04 | <bline> | some nice fixes, atleast for me :) |
| 18:04 | <Captain_Murdoch> | fine with me, my major stuff went in soon after 0.9.1 was released. |
| 18:04 | <Chutt> | i'd like to have _some_ major new features, though |
| 18:04 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | hardware card support! |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | you're not going to get that done soon, are you? |
| 18:05 | <bline> | is there a key to get to the new advanced mode when selecting a show for recording? |
| 18:05 | <Snow-Man> | Please say you are so I can look at buying one of those cards instead of the 250 or whatever. |
| 18:05 | <bline> | I've seen it once, by mistake.. |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | Chutt: I mean input, not output |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | no not anytime soon |
| 18:06 | <Snow-Man> | There is support for hardware cards for input.. |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | right |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | but not in a major ver i though |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | only cvs |
| 18:06 | <tmk> | or did you put that in? |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | it's in 0.9 |
| 18:07 | <bline> | it's was in for the 0.9 release |
| 18:07 | <bline> | I'd like to see the color stuff work though :) |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | bline, you know what to do :p |
| 18:07 | <bline> | heh |
| 18:07 | * bline | learns C++ overnight |
| 18:08 | <tmk> | bah c++ |
| 18:08 | * bline | rewrites mythtv in c |
| 18:09 | * tmk | rejoices |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | the color stuff's easy |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | libs/libmythtv/channel.cpp |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | near the bottom |
| 18:10 | * bline | looks |
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| 18:11 | <vektor> | i heard there was a c++ bashing going on |
| 18:11 | * vektor | attends |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | vektor's got spies |
| 18:13 | <bline> | that looks simple enough, just another else if for the v4l2 ioctl's |
| 18:13 | <tmk> | what color stuff is this? |
| 18:14 | <bline> | the stuff I added with my patch |
| 18:14 | <tmk> | oh |
| 18:14 | <Peit|Home> | o.k. it does the same under KDE as enlightenment |
| 18:14 | <bline> | contrast, saturation etc |
| 18:14 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 18:14 | <Peit|Home> | :( |
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| 18:57 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 18:57 | <bigguy> | who was bashing c++? |
| 18:58 | <tmk-working> | <-- |
| 18:58 | <bigguy> | hehe |
| 18:59 | <bigguy> | you been reading the Enlightenment C++ Haters Guide Book by M. Jennings? |
| 18:59 | <tmk-working> | no i don't read tech-books as a general rule |
| 19:01 | <bigguy> | hehe it's not a real book |
| 19:01 | <tmk-working> | i see |
| 19:01 | <tmk-working> | well then how could i have read it |
| 19:01 | * tmk-working | thinks that was an unfair question |
| 19:01 | <bigguy> | it's just that most of the E developers are C++ haters and can't really give any valid reasons |
| 19:01 | <bigguy> | other than Alan Cox said ..... |
| 19:02 | <tmk-working> | c++ is slow |
| 19:02 | <tmk-working> | my biggest issue is that i had a teacher that insisted on c++ |
| 19:02 | <tmk-working> | she was unkind |
| 19:02 | <tmk-working> | plus i learned OO on java |
| 19:02 | <tmk-working> | that was more intuitive |
| 19:02 | <bigguy> | heh I haven't touched java |
| 19:03 | <bigguy> | only messed with c, c++ and perl(gtk-perl) |
| 19:03 | <bigguy> | oh wait lisp |
| 19:03 | * tmk-working | withdraws from the debate |
| 19:03 | <tmk-working> | these are silly |
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| 19:03 | <bigguy> | I wasn't debating |
| 19:04 | <bigguy> | if I was debating it'd be on |
| 19:04 | <bigguy> | :) |
| 19:04 | <bigguy> | anyway back to lurking |
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| 20:17 | <Chutt> | mdz, around? |
| 20:20 | <mdz_> | Chutt: yep |
| 20:21 | <Chutt> | spend any time on the scheduler issues? |
| 20:21 | <Chutt> | i was thinking of just temporarily making a don't record list in memory |
| 20:22 | <Chutt> | to at least fix the delete->restart issue |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | desired behavior in this case: |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | program 1 records from 8 to 8:30, program 2 records from 8 to 9. user manually selects program 1 to record in preference to 2 |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | user deletes program 1 while it's recording. should 2 start? |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | i'm inclined to say no |
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| 20:38 | <tmk> | does irc.freenode.net resolve to 127.0.0.1 for anyone else? |
| 20:39 | <Snow-Man> | haha, it does for me. :) |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. Current status: the main rotation is currently pointed to 127.0.0.1, and one of the MR servers is down, two have been shut down since the problem started |
| 20:41 | * Snow-Man | smirks. |
| 20:41 | <mdz_> | Chutt: no, I started messing with overrides and didn't get around to doing much |
| 20:41 | <mdz_> | Chutt: do you think it's better to make a quick fix? |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | well |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | this'll work for now |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | and it's going to take 10-15 minutes |
| 20:42 | <mdz_> | yeah |
| 20:42 | <Snow-Man> | mkay, everything's hooked up, now I just need a way to control the frontend without using the keyboard. |
| 20:42 | <Snow-Man> | :) |
| 20:42 | <Snow-Man> | Well, the keyboard on the machine it's running on. |
| 20:42 | <mdz_> | if you want to prepare for a release, I'd say it's better to do the easy fix |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | well |
| 20:42 | <mdz_> | because I'm not going to finish overrides anytime soon |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure about a release |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | just, next couple weeks would be nice |
| 20:42 | <Chutt> | keep things movin along |
| 20:43 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Remote control mechanism would be a nice new feature! ;) |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | so write it |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 20:43 | <mdz_> | I've been too busy with Debian stuff to do anything much with mythtv lately |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 20:44 | <Snow-Man> | bah is right. |
| 20:44 | * Snow-Man | goes off to look at the silly code. |
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| 21:01 | <Seela> | the docs say to use XMLTV 0.5.10, but 0.5.11 is the newest version... is there any benefit to upgrading or will it break the app? |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | don't upgrade unless you're running cvs mythtv |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | the brilliant minds that write xmltv decided to break things |
| 21:02 | <tmk> | ./topic #mythtv, where we hold the xmltv team in the highest esteem |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | that pissed me off last night |
| 21:02 | <Seela> | yeah i read about some DTD change so i was curious heh |
| 21:04 | <Seela> | I wonder how they get their info, from so many cable setups from all over the country |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | www.zap2it.com |
| 21:06 | <Seela> | ahhh ok that's pretty cool |
| 21:06 | <Seela> | i wonder if they have a deal going, or if zap2it will eventually get angry because so many are using their services without viewing the ad banners |
| 21:07 | <tmk> | i bet they change it regularly to keep track of who's using it actively |
| 21:07 | <bline> | the latter |
| 21:08 | <Seela> | well luckily this whole "build your own PVR" thing isn't something the general population can do so I figure they can get away with it for a while |
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| 21:13 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I messed around a bit just now and am now able to reliably reproduce that weird audio problem I have |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | which weird audio problem? |
| 21:14 | <mdz_> | Chutt: if I watch TV, change inputs from television to s-video, then exit, then watch live tv again |
| 21:14 | <mdz_> | I get the audio from the Television input and the video from the S-video |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | maybe it's something in the init code |
| 21:14 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 21:18 | <mdz_> | Chutt: does it always change the input when it starts up? |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | well |
| 21:18 | <Chutt> | when you start up mythbackend, yeah |
| 21:18 | <mdz_> | hmm |
| 21:19 | <mdz_> | if (inputname.isEmpty()) |
| 21:19 | <mdz_> | channel->SetChannelByString(startchannel); |
| 21:19 | <mdz_> | else |
| 21:19 | <mdz_> | channel->SwitchToInput(inputname, startchannel); |
| 21:19 | <mdz_> | all my cards have a defaultinput set though |
| 21:20 | <mdz_> | it always fixes it if I just cycle back around the inputs |
| 21:20 | <mdz_> | but it's strange that nobody else has reported this |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | i believe someone has |
| 21:20 | <mdz_> | maybe my card is very very subtly defective |
| 21:20 | <mdz_> | oh? |
| 21:20 | <Chutt> | i seem to remember it |
| 21:21 | * Snow-Man | had to go get dairy queen for Megan |
| 21:21 | <Snow-Man> | So I havn't got that patch yet. ;) |
| 21:23 | <mdz_> | it wouldn't particularly bother me except that it affects recordings too |
| 21:23 | <mdz_> | if I've just been watching live on s-video, and exit, and then the next recording happens to be on s-video, it gets the wrong audio |
| 21:24 | <mdz_> | Chutt: do you use v4l2 everywhere now? |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 21:25 | <Chutt> | i'm using v4l1 on my normal card |
| 21:36 | <mdz_> | Chutt: using v4l1 anywhere with multiple inputs? can you reproduce the bug? |
| 21:36 | <Chutt> | i don't have multiple inputs anywhere :( |
| 21:36 | <mdz_> | oh |
| 21:36 | <mdz_> | I can't think of how it could possibly be mythtv's fault |
| 21:36 | <tmk> | cough pvr-250 |
| 21:36 | <mdz_> | maybe it's the driver |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | i do have multiple inputs |
| 21:37 | <Chutt> | i don't really have anything to hook up to them. |
| 21:55 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf. |
| 21:55 | <Snow-Man> | I'm being dense since it's not being obvious to me where to start hacking on this thing. |
| 21:56 | <Snow-Man> | Like, I would have thought programs/mythfrontend/main.cpp would be a place to start. |
| 21:57 | <Snow-Man> | Hmm, hmm. |
| 21:57 | <Snow-Man> | TVMenuCallback maybe? |
| 21:58 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf. |
| 21:58 | <Snow-Man> | blah, bed time. |
| 21:58 | <Snow-Man> | Guess there's always tommorow. |
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| 22:36 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | had to renew mythtv.org |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | $15 down the drain |
| 22:37 | <radsaq> | poor Chutt |
| 22:37 | <bline> | aww |
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| 23:03 | <bbeattie> | quick question, I've checked the mailing lists and have found others reporting that not all their music shows up in the mythmusic music menus. Is there a way to fix this? |
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| 23:11 | <Seela> | silly disconnects |
| 23:12 | <Seela> | I'm using a PVR-250... the only hardware codec I see in my options is "Hardware MJPEG", but on the mailing list Isaac said there would be a "Hardware MPEG encoder card" option.. are those the same thing? |
| 23:13 | <bline> | yeah |
| 23:14 | * extremis | is having a problem now when he changes preferneces it doesn't apply |
| 23:14 | <bline> | check for sql errors in the mysql logs |
| 23:14 | <Seela> | Okie doak.. hrmm.... when viewing live TV after about 5-10 seconds it completely hangs up the system. I think the ivtv driver is correct cuz i can cat it to a mpg file for eternity. |
| 23:15 | <bline> | Seela: never seen that |
| 23:15 | <Seela> | doh :P |
| 23:15 | <Seela> | i had a tail -f of /var/log/messages in a different window on a diff computer to see if anything bad would come out but nothing did |
| 23:16 | <Seela> | someone on the mailing list that had this prob said it hung after the buffer filled... i'll increase my buffer and see if i can view longer periods |
| 23:16 | <bline> | could be hardware, decoding takes a little cpu |
| 23:16 | * bline | goes to bed |
| 23:16 | <Seela> | nite ;P |
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| 23:22 | <extremis> | so, does the svideo (or at least one input) have to be connected to the pvr250 when it boots otherwise the ivtv driver hangs? |
| 23:23 | <Seela> | not for me |
| 23:24 | <tmk> | extr: nope that's not the way it is |
| 23:25 | <Seela> | tmk, have you ever had probs with your pvr-250 locking up after about 2-5 seconds of watching Live TV? |
| 23:30 | <extremis> | I'm not seeing any mysql errors, but I can't even change the audio output from /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1 |
| 23:30 | <extremis> | its stuck |
| 23:30 | <extremis> | I can't change any values it seems |
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| 23:41 | <extremis> | hrm, choppy audio |
| 23:41 | <extremis> | video seems ok |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | read the mailing lists. |
| 23:41 | <extremis> | ;) |
| 23:41 | <extremis> | alright, I've been being too much of a pain in the ass |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | that _was_ just discussed today. |
| 23:42 | <extremis> | neat |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | moegreen, hi =) |
| 23:43 | <tmk> | seela: i haven't installed myth yet |
| 23:43 | * tmk | hides |
| 23:43 | <Seela> | hehehe ok |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | tmk, he's likely having the same issue that was discussed on the ivtv list |
| 23:44 | <tmk> | which one |
| 23:44 | <Chutt> | tmk, the kt-133 issue? |
| 23:44 | <tmk> | ahh |
| 23:45 | <tmk> | i should post a note about that on the FAQ |
| 23:45 | <tmk> | back to code |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | seela, basically, you've got motherboard issues, most likely |
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| 23:46 | <extremis> | hrm, it seems the onlything pepole are talking about is if bitrate affects sound |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | seela, make sure you're not sharing irqs with a bunch of stuff, check the ivtv-devel list for the 'IVTV DMA flags' |
| 23:46 | <extremis> | but my sound doesn't cut out completely |
| 23:46 | <extremis> | just jitters occassionally |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | extremis, just update to current cvs and quit bitching. |
| 23:46 | <Seela> | ok thanks i'll make sure i'm kosher |
| 23:46 | <extremis> | Chutt: hah |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | jeez |
| 23:46 | <extremis> | I wasn't trying to bitch chutt |
| 23:47 | <mechou> | yo, poptix, you there? |
| 23:47 | <Seela> | no matches found for 'IVTV DMA flags'... i'm looking at the list archives from sourceforge.net, maybe they havent updated yet or something |
| 23:47 | <extremis> | if I came accross that way I'm sorry |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | seela, sorry, 'IVTV DMA errors' |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | it's a similar issue to what you're having |
| 23:47 | <Chutt> | most likely caused by the same thing |
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| 23:52 | <mechou> | so what's this attack freenode had earlier? DoS? |
| 23:57 | <Chutt> | just lilo looking for attention |
| 23:57 | <Seela> | Chutt: it says my chipset is KX133... think that's close enough to the KT133? :) |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | probably |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | it's via stuff |
| 23:58 | <Seela> | I got a P2-350 with MB lying around here.. i'll throw it in and see how it all goes |