| 00:00 | <WizFactor> | Ok, I am thoroughly confused now... I've got mythtv installed via the .debs, and so I've apparently got all the debs, but my /usr/lib/qt3 dir doesn't seem to be properly populated |
| 00:01 | <WizFactor> | Not sure how I screwed that up, but it means I can't run CVS |
| 00:22 | <mdz_> | the only thing in /usr/lib/qt3 that you need is libqsqlmysql.so |
| 00:22 | <mdz_> | which is in the qt mysql deb |
| 00:22 | <mdz_> | which is depended upon by the mythtv debs |
| 00:25 | <WizFactor> | rob@sully:~/cvs/mythtv/mythtv$ make |
| 00:25 | <WizFactor> | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| 00:25 | <WizFactor> | rob@sully:~/cvs/mythtv/mythtv$ ls /usr/lib/qt3/ |
| 00:25 | <WizFactor> | plugins |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | you're missing some -dev debs |
| 00:26 | <WizFactor> | But which ones? the mythtv debs are installed, so everything should be there |
| 00:26 | <WizFactor> | and my checking seems to say it is, but I must be missing something |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | the mythtv debs don't need the -dev debs |
| 00:26 | <WizFactor> | ah |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | as they're already compiled |
| 00:27 | <WizFactor> | doh...shoulda known that |
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| 00:36 | <mdz_> | WizFactor: add the deb-src line to sources.list and run apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| 00:36 | <mdz_> | "run CVS" != "compile mythtv" |
| 00:42 | <WizFactor> | Ok, I was missing a couple -dev directories, but nothing qt related...and nothing that fixed my problem |
| 00:48 | <mdz_> | your QTDIR is set wrong |
| 00:48 | <mdz_> | it should be /usr/share/qt3, not /usr/lib/qt3 |
| 00:49 | <mdz_> | /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debian.gz |
| 00:49 | <WizFactor> | Ah... |
| 00:49 | <WizFactor> | I was just going by http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-4.html |
| 00:50 | <WizFactor> | No wonder I've been beating my head against the wall all day |
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| 01:22 | <extremis> | So, does anyone here use the echostar 6000 receiver? |
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| 02:14 | <tdb30_> | I'm still on the fence about mythtv and freevo.... |
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| 02:14 | <Chutt> | so try them both. |
| 02:17 | <tdb30_> | I was thinking about that. |
| 02:17 | <tmk-away> | evening chutt |
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| 02:17 | <Chutt> | hi |
| 02:17 | <tdb30_> | I'm not sure about the database stuff in myth though looks liek work to get it setup |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | tdb30_, it's only difficult if you're a total moron |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | most people aren't, though |
| 02:17 | <tdb30_> | guilty |
| 02:18 | <tmk> | aww cmon.. tell him what you really think ;) |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | since every distribution will set up mysql for you |
| 02:18 | <Chutt> | there's mythtv packages for every major distribution that do almost all the work |
| 02:18 | <tdb30_> | well I guess I have a couple more days to go before I work on that part. Tomorow I'm going to tackle the remote control stuff |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | chutt: speaking of remotes.. have you heard of anyone tweaking hauppauge's cards to accept normal remotes? |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | tmk, i believe the stuff they use to decode only does the rc-5 protocl |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | as-is they only listen for the hauppauge-provided ones :< |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | hmm that's useful |
| 02:19 | <Chutt> | philips/marantz equipment |
| 02:19 | <tmk> | ya |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | hopefully i can set my universal up to a philips satellite mode |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | and the card will grab it |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | that's what i do |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | ah excellent! |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | i have a learning remote |
| 02:20 | <tmk> | but still |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | tmk, you need to revise your docs to get rid of the 'you must recompile your kernel with v4l2' junk |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | it'd save a lot of grief :p |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | is that still in there? |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | heh |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | i tried to pawn off docs to someone else |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | they seem to be.. less than enthusiastic |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | The kernel must have V4L2 support so if you have the standard 2.4.20 distribution you must obtain the V4L2 patches from http://bytesex.org/patches and recompile the kernel to enable V4L2 support. |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 02:21 | <Chutt> | from the faq, so, ya :p |
| 02:21 | <tmk> | yes that's wrong |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | lots of mail today |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | i should also put up a note "kx133 and kt133 chipsets are known to have problems" |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | and kt266 and kt400 |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | depending on the user's hardware |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | heh |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | or |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | "all chipsets are known to have problems" |
| 02:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:22 | <tmk> | >:) |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | this nforce is _completely_ solid, aside from when i'm recording |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | and that only happens occasionally |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | yeah.. i'm not doing anything wierd tho |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | very, very occasionally |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | just dma |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | well, i've been using the thing for a year or so with analog capture |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | yeah but that's not dma is it |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | just mmap |
| 02:23 | <Chutt> | gotta get data off the card somehow, no? |
| 02:23 | <tmk> | mmap isn't dma |
| 02:24 | <tmk> | mmap maps the pci memory of the card to a user addressable space |
| 02:24 | <tmk> | then the user just reads data directly from the card |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 02:24 | <tmk> | dma has something automated push the data to main memory |
| 02:24 | <tmk> | so the cpu can do other stuff |
| 02:25 | <tmk> | i think the dma load of the HD plus the dma of the card to memory might push the via stuff too hard |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | very likely |
| 02:25 | <tmk> | i've been thinking about making an mmap solution |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | oh, also for the docs |
| 02:26 | <tmk> | but i'd rather have tv-out |
| 02:26 | <tmk> | ya? |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | probably be good to note that you need the tuner.o module, easiest way to get is to have bttv compiled as a module |
| 02:26 | <tmk> | hmm yeah not a bad idea |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | had some idiot in here before ranting about that not being in your docs :p |
| 02:27 | <tmk> | anyone know how to tell VI that it's always a dark background? |
| 02:27 | <tmk> | ie to hardcode :set background=dark |
| 02:27 | <bline> | ~/.vimrc |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | 'course, he insisted that the sourceforge mailing list archives weren't searchable |
| 02:27 | <tmk> | haha people get so bent out of shape when their free software isn't 100% to their liking |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | http://www.poptix.net/ivtv |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | is better |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | for searching |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | yeah, but the sf archives are there |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | and linked and stuff |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | yeah they don''t have everything tho |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | is there a link to poptix's stuff on the site at all? |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | i think in the faq |
| 02:28 | * bline | offered to archive ivtv list |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | if not i'll put it in |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | poptix is fine :) |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | bline: how's the ui? |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | audio in yet? |
| 02:29 | <bline> | it's the same way it was yesterday night when i left it |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | heh |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | well i won't bug ya till i do more coding |
| 02:30 | <bline> | I was waiting on the audio stuff to sync with sf cvs so I could test |
| 02:30 | <tmk> | ya understandable |
| 02:30 | <Chutt> | ah, the joys of sourceforge |
| 02:31 | <bline> | I like testing as I go, some of us are not as unfailable as you :) |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | i test sometimes |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | i always compile before commit |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | and i usually capture |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | wow! |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | usually =) |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 02:31 | <tmk> | if someone wants to volunteer as QA |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | actually, i commit lots of junk without a test compile |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | aha! |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | i don't break stuff that often, really |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | i figure i'll notice the big bugs |
| 02:32 | <bline> | heh, the utils didn't compile for like a week in ivtv |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | that was alex's fault |
| 02:32 | <tmk> | he committed half your patch |
| 02:33 | <tmk> | anyhow |
| 02:33 | <tmk> | i'm going to go do some doc updates |
| 02:33 | <bline> | naa, I just sent the patch without know about his seperate header |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | there's a commits list, right? |
| 02:33 | <bline> | which I blame sf for |
| 02:33 | <tmk> | yeah i thinkso |
| 02:33 | <tmk> | i'm not on it |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | i see one exists, but no archive for it on sf |
| 02:33 | <Chutt> | so i dunno if it's hooked up |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | john was doing most of the admin stuff |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | he's off the project now tho |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | his work had some insane Int. prop. thing he had to sign |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | and he was concerned |
| 02:34 | <Chutt> | i just want to smack around that record_v4l2.pl guy next time he announces a minor cvs rev to the list |
| 02:34 | <bline> | I can't wait till we update out archive stuff, it's much nicer now |
| 02:34 | <tmk> | hahaha |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | poor james |
| 02:35 | <tmk> | archive stuff? |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/Dev_F10/ |
| 02:35 | <Chutt> | like those |
| 02:35 | <bline> | the mailing list archives, alex wants to expand it, so he is updating it making it better |
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| 02:36 | <bline> | (alex is the boss) |
| 02:36 | <tmk> | eew i dislike gossamer threads |
| 02:36 | <tmk> | i want plain text |
| 02:36 | <tmk> | and a search box |
| 02:36 | * tmk | oldschool |
| 02:36 | <bline> | There is a search |
| 02:36 | <bline> | and it's better than most archives |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | this sort of appeases all the silly people that bitch about me not having a forum |
| 02:37 | <bline> | I helped write it |
| 02:37 | * tmk | pats bline on the back |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | thanks! |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | "you should have a forum!!! and a wiki!!!!!!" |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | wikitty-wack |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | ok that was bad |
| 02:37 | <tmk> | what is a wiki |
| 02:37 | <bline> | The search is being moved to the top of the page |
| 02:37 | <bline> | and the extra html crap is being removed, though it'll still look nice |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | oh, wow, there's a search box at the bottom |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | i had just used the button at the top |
| 02:38 | * bline | lets insults role off |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | bline: make it optional to be completely plain text.. like a theme |
| 02:38 | <tmk> | and i'll use it |
| 02:39 | <bline> | Somthing to piss you off though Chutt, the updates are going to break all the archive links unless I can talk alex into fixing it |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | i don't mind |
| 02:39 | <tmk> | are you and alex in cahoots bline? |
| 02:39 | <Chutt> | that'll take a good 15 seconds to update the links on the website |
| 02:39 | <bline> | tmk: it's template based, switching templates is simple |
| 02:40 | <bline> | Chutt: but the links already in the list will be broken |
| 02:40 | <tmk> | can it be plain text? |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 02:40 | <tmk> | like grey background, black letters, blue links |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 02:40 | <tmk> | no tables |
| 02:40 | <bline> | I'm trying to get him to do something about that before we update |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | most links in the list are to the howto, though |
| 02:41 | <bline> | there are 180 or so links to the forum from the list |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | not bad |
| 02:41 | <bline> | alex counted heh |
| 02:41 | <bline> | tmk: write the template set :) |
| 02:42 | <tmk> | maybe later |
| 02:42 | <bline> | ah well |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | notice any scheduler weirdness since that checkin yesterday night? |
| 02:42 | * bline | hasn't updated |
| 02:43 | <bline> | the commit message made me afraid :) |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | i can't break it |
| 02:44 | <Chutt> | i'm just covering my ass |
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| 02:47 | <Chutt> | i'm sure someone won't like the new behavior, but, whatever |
| 02:47 | <Chutt> | they can fix it |
| 02:47 | <bline> | hey Chutt, there is some kind of new advanced mode in the recording selection? |
| 02:47 | <Chutt> | kinda |
| 02:47 | <Chutt> | hit 'i' on the recording selection screen |
| 02:48 | <bline> | ok, I'll try it |
| 02:48 | <bline> | I should hack it to be on by default |
| 02:48 | <Scrye> | hey i found some neat DC-based PVR hardware today |
| 02:48 | <Scrye> | i got the bookmark on another computer - they are 1U boxes with 800mhz cpus with an integrated pvr-350 |
| 02:48 | <Scrye> | like 350$ US |
| 02:48 | <bline> | I want to put my wintv go in here, but I want to control what records what |
| 02:49 | <Scrye> | heh someone might want to put a suggestion in the FAQ about using noisy drives |
| 02:49 | <Scrye> | my 'cable box' shouldn't be keeping me up at night heh |
| 02:51 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:51 | <Chutt> | i've got a 'cuda 5 that's damn near silent, even when seeking |
| 02:51 | <Chutt> | haha |
| 02:52 | <Chutt> | so that guy on the list _was_ setting all his different frontends to the same hostname |
| 02:52 | <Scrye> | yeah, quantum == loud |
| 02:53 | <Scrye> | especially 2 quantums in a raid 0 |
| 02:53 | <Scrye> | the seagates are almost noiseless |
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| 02:59 | <Scrye> | 4041 ryan 14 0 34628 28M 15804 R 18.1 5.7 0:37 mythfrontend |
| 03:00 | <Scrye> | playback of 640x480 on a thunderbird 1200 w/ a TNT1-tvout |
| 03:01 | <Scrye> | 4140 root 15 0 44656 35M 6112 R 41.8 7.0 0:19 mythbackend |
| 03:01 | <Scrye> | 4041 ryan 12 0 34256 28M 15432 R 20.5 5.6 0:49 mythfrontend |
| 03:01 | <Scrye> | 4139 root 5 -10 44656 35M 6112 S < 5.8 7.0 0:02 mythbackend |
| 03:01 | <Scrye> | record and playback at the same time |
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| 03:16 | <tmk> | ok chutt, docs updated |
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| 09:43 | <Chutt2> | people on my mailing list just piss me off |
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| 09:44 | <vektor> | Why? |
| 09:45 | <vektor> | Or, what happened now? |
| 09:45 | <Chutt> | because a whole lot of them are fucking idiots |
| 09:45 | <Chutt> | it's just damn annoying |
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| 09:48 | <Peit> | this may seem a silly question, but is there a sample output, (text) from running say mythfrontend, ie. what can we expect to see, (like "contacting backend") |
| 09:48 | <Chutt> | sure, going into live tv mode? |
| 09:48 | <Chutt> | analog or hardware capture? |
| 09:48 | <Peit> | yeah |
| 09:48 | <Peit> | livetv |
| 09:49 | <Peit> | I _think_ i should be getting a message about sound, ( i do on the backend window) |
| 09:49 | <Chutt> | what's it say on the backend? |
| 09:49 | <Peit> | um |
| 09:51 | <Peit> | I had it logged, can't find it now :( |
| 09:51 | <Peit> | ah ha |
| 09:52 | <Peit> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 09:52 | <Peit> | audio volume set to '32768' |
| 09:52 | <Peit> | is what i get/got on the backend |
| 09:52 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 09:52 | <Peit> | but i just restarted mythbackend and didn't get that |
| 09:53 | <Chutt> | what version of mythtv, btw? |
| 09:53 | <Peit> | 0.9.1 i _think_ |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | It should basically just say |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | Over/underscanning. <sizes> |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | Using XV port: <port number> |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | should be it |
| 09:54 | <Peit> | on the client? |
| 09:54 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 09:54 | <Peit> | connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.15:6543 |
| 09:54 | <Peit> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 09:54 | <Peit> | is all i get |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | there's a section in the howto about debugging |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | 'mythtv crashes / doesn't do anything' |
| 09:55 | <vektor> | Chutt: hey, did something change on the new NVIDIA drivers about how many XVIDEO ports they make available? |
| 09:55 | <Peit> | I tried running in gdb, |
| 09:55 | <vektor> | Chutt: Like, do you know if now everything is an NV05 video blitter? |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | vektor, not that i know of |
| 09:55 | <vektor> | ok, thanks. |
| 09:55 | <Chutt> | vektor, i still have a 'NV17 Video Overlay' |
| 09:56 | <vektor> | ok, thanks. |
| 09:56 | <Chutt> | peit, and where was it stopped up? |
| 09:57 | <Peit> | bah. anyone got a spare pair of glasses, looks like i got some debugging steps in the wrong order |
| 09:57 | <Peit> | one sec |
| 09:57 | * Peit | leaves it a couple of secs |
| 09:58 | <Peit> | o.k. backend has spat out "Backend stuffed up in RequestRingBufferBlock |
| 09:58 | <Peit> | "7 |
| 09:59 | <Chutt> | check the backend in gdb as well |
| 09:59 | <Peit> | o.k. |
| 10:00 | <Peit> | need to build gdb for the backend |
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| 10:21 | <Peit> | Chutt: o.k. no moaning from the backend when i ^C'd the front end, the backtrace has a number of "nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6" messages, anything specific i should look for? |
| 10:23 | <Chutt> | follow the directions in the howtol |
| 10:26 | <Peit> | oops/doh, willdo |
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| 11:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | apparently it's _my_ fault that that tako dumbass doesn't read the mailing list |
| 11:49 | * radsaq | hides from the scary Chutt |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | 'So you missed the thread where this was fixed a couple days ago?' is an apparently unhelpful reply |
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| 11:51 | <Chutt> | replying to Hmmm but *cough* mplayer I've got working with Live TV while MythTV still stutters *cough* *whistle* }:)" |
| 11:52 | * Peit | hopes he hasn't missed out anything trivial before posting the backtrace |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | peit, you're colin morey? |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | well, basically, the backtrace is useless =) |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | see all the '????'s in it? |
| 11:53 | <Chutt> | need those |
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| 11:54 | <Peit> | :( i was fearing that |
| 11:55 | <Peit> | i _did_ set the DEBUG in settings.pro and didn't strip the binaries |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:55 | <Chutt> | your gdb doesn't work with your glibc |
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| 11:55 | <Chutt> | well, completely, at least |
| 11:56 | <Peit> | hmm, odd, I only compiled gdb the other day, (two, maybe three days ago) |
| 11:57 | <Peit> | although glibc may be stripped, |
| 11:57 | <Chutt> | it's having problems with threads |
| 11:57 | <Peit> | is there a simple fix, (that i'm not going to screw up)? |
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| 11:58 | <Peit> | i know you probably don't want to teach me how to use gdb, but your help really is appreciated |
| 11:58 | <Chutt> | not that i know of |
| 11:59 | <mechou> | Chutt, what's the best way to change channel provider/lineup w/o losing oldrecorded? (I'm moving...) |
| 11:59 | <Peit> | what's the indication it;s not playing nice? (the ???) |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | mechou, run setup, and say yes to the second question (about clearing out your program/channel tables) |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | then set up a new provider |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | and set the inputs again |
| 12:00 | <Chutt> | should be it |
| 12:00 | <mechou> | OK, sounds very reasonable. |
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| 12:38 | <just1nux> | Chutt: shouldn't there be text somewhere on those menu screens that tells you where you are? First rule of usable navigation is always tell people where they are. Right now, the only way to know is to guess by what menu choices you have (both mythmusic and mythvideo have the same option choices under settings...the screens look exactly the same. |
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| 12:45 | <Chutt> | just1nux, there's the 'title' images |
| 12:45 | <Chutt> | that can be used for stuff like that |
| 12:46 | <just1nux> | oh. i musta missed that |
| 12:46 | <just1nux> | are any of the current themes using them? |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | no |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | iulius was, but that's dead |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | i'd have to figure out how to use them again |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | unless you can find a tarball of it somewhere |
| 12:47 | <just1nux> | guess i'll see what i can find then. |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | basically, it's an image that changes depending on what screen you're on |
| 12:48 | <just1nux> | exactly what i was looking for, but i was hoping there was atleadt a way to include text which said what screen you are on. |
| 12:48 | <jkolb> | just1nux: I just tgz'ed my iulius dir, and put it at http://www.greyshift.net/iulius.tgz |
| 12:49 | <just1nux> | got it. thanx |
| 12:49 | <jkolb> | np |
| 12:49 | <jkolb> | I think there's a file from blue in there to make it work with recent releases, but I can't really remember. |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | there may need to be more categories needed for the screens, though |
| 12:52 | <jkolb> | Oh, hey, all of the titles are pngs. I had always assumed they were text. |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | pretty much everything is images =) |
| 12:55 | <Peit> | Chutt: i have a fulle Backtrace if your intersted |
| 12:55 | <just1nux> | how does it match them up? like for the buttons...there is a TV one that seems to go with anything starting with TV? |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | peit, you can email it to me directly if you want |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | and what'd you do to fix things? |
| 12:56 | <Peit> | irc /query |
| 12:56 | <just1nux> | or containing TV? |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | just1nux, the first line of the menu .xml file gives it a name that's matched against the title name |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | peit, ijr@po.cwru.edu |
| 12:56 | <Peit> | Chutt: k |
| 13:02 | <Peit> | sent |
| 13:04 | <Chutt> | that's the same as before |
| 13:06 | <just1nux> | what are the chances that that there I can add titles for Music Settings" |
| 13:07 | <just1nux> | and Video Settings... etc. |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | pretty easy |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | need to modify the various menu xml files |
| 13:07 | <Chutt> | just give me a list of which menus you want changed |
| 13:08 | <just1nux> | heh, ok. ill get back to you. i figured when that list was setup there was only one setting menu screen. |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | yup =) |
| 13:08 | <just1nux> | and nobody has touched that code since. |
| 13:08 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 13:09 | <Peit> | Chutt: the same? or doesn't tell you anything new? "#1 0x00000000 in ?? ()" |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | peit, yeah, i need those to be filled in |
| 13:09 | <Peit> | any idea what they'd be from? |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | bad gdb |
| 13:09 | <Chutt> | is the only thing i'm aware of that causes it |
| 13:10 | <Peit> | o.k. I'll recompile gdb against the non-striped glibc |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | Chutt: if I'm not a programmer, how can I contribute to your project? |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | to help support its growth |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | continued growth that is :) |
| 13:26 | <Chutt> | artist? |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | nope |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | I do network security |
| 13:26 | <Chutt> | docs? |
| 13:26 | <extremis> | I could do that |
| 13:27 | <extremis> | there are some things that I've been fighting that aren't well documented |
| 13:27 | <extremis> | so I can add them to the faq |
| 13:27 | <extremis> | do you need financial compensation or hardware? |
| 13:27 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 13:28 | <Chutt> | lotta people do ask about donations |
| 13:28 | <extremis> | we could build an installation CD and sell it :) |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 13:29 | <Chutt> | i still don't know how i'd feel 'bout taking money from people |
| 13:29 | <mechou> | actually, can't myth use some testers? |
| 13:30 | <extremis> | Chutt: no problem |
| 13:30 | <Chutt> | in addition to everyone who runs cvs? |
| 13:30 | <mechou> | well, that's the thing, who /how many run cvs? |
| 13:31 | <Chutt> | mechou, a good number, judging by people on the mailing lists |
| 13:33 | <mechou> | it's just I wished we could have avoided 9.0->9.1, minor on scale of things, but still a nuisance |
| 13:33 | <Chutt> | why would you care about a bugfix release like that? |
| 13:36 | <mechou> | well, you know, recompile, install, test cycle again....I have luxury of having some test machines but I'd imagin a number of people want production myth |
| 13:37 | <mechou> | I'm not complaining, just saying more eyballs would be a good thing |
| 13:38 | <mechou> | s/eyballs/eyeballs |
| 13:39 | <Snow-Man> | So run cvs if you want, or read the code for bugs. |
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| 14:06 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: quick Q, which version of gdb are you using? |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | whatever's in debian unstable |
| 14:09 | <Peit|Home> | hmm, 5.3.1mdk is the one on the www, i'll try an upgrade |
| 14:12 | <Peit|Home> | hmm, 5.3 is latest release |
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| 15:03 | <mdz> | vektor: simon sure is taking his sweet time with the tvtime packaging :-) |
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| 15:06 | <tmk> | Chutt: faq was updated |
| 15:06 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 15:06 | <tmk> | hopefully you get less hate-mail on my account now |
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| 15:25 | <vektor> | mdz: um, yeah :( |
| 15:25 | <vektor> | perfectionists suck |
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| 15:34 | * Peit|Home | beats gdb with a big stick |
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| 16:02 | <tmk> | mmm netsplit |
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| 16:17 | <just1nux> | Chutt: these are the screens that need a title 'mode' added for them. MythTV Schedule, MythTV Settings, MythMusic Settings, MythVideo Settings. I'm also assuming MythGame Settings, MythGallery Settings. But I don't have either of them installed so i dont know if these exist or if there are additional menu screens in them. |
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| 16:57 | <tmk> | anyone know of laptops with good tv-out support in linux? |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | um |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | is there _anything_ that has good tv-out support in linux? |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | like fuck, any consumer video card? |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | matrox/nvidia |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | ? |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | i think 'no', therefore 'none' |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | uh, no. |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | not in my opinion anyway. |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 16:58 | <vektor> | didn't we have this discussion? :) |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | ok let me rephrase |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | nope not i |
| 16:58 | <tmk> | anyone know of laptops with tv-out support in linux? |
| 16:59 | <tmk> | mine has console mode tv-out |
| 16:59 | <tmk> | but not video |
| 16:59 | <vektor> | well my argument is that there's no api under linux where you can give an interlaced stream to a tv encoder chip and have it come out correctly |
| 16:59 | <vektor> | therefore, nothing has good tv-out support |
| 17:00 | <vektor> | except the matrox g400/g450/g550 using the directfb driver, and even then there are bugs which prevent it from being perfect |
| 17:00 | <vektor> | that is, you cannot build a dvd player out of a linux machine and have it be as good quality as a hardware dvd player. |
| 17:01 | <vektor> | chutt may argue with me: he's said that if you send interlaced top-field-first frames at an XVIDEO surface which happens to be on the TV output head of an NVIDIA card, then it comes out correct, but i have reservations about how it maps the scanlines from input to output :) |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | it looks correct, at least |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | tmk, just make a script to do auto checkouts of cvs and post tarballs |
| 17:03 | <vektor> | Chutt: but say you move the window down one scanline, what happens? |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | i dunno, i can't move the window |
| 17:03 | <vektor> | oh? |
| 17:03 | <Chutt> | mythtv is borderless all the time |
| 17:03 | <vektor> | oooh |
| 17:03 | <vektor> | but you see what i'm getting at, right? |
| 17:04 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 17:04 | <tmk> | borderless = no moving? |
| 17:04 | <tmk> | hold down alt and drag.. i bet that'll move it |
| 17:04 | <vektor> | tmk: you can just hold down alt and drag :) |
| 17:04 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 17:04 | <vektor> | i think he's using KWin |
| 17:04 | <vektor> | Chutt ? ;) |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | well, in some window managers |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | but i don't have a keyboard on the tv computer anymore |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | or a mouse |
| 17:05 | <vektor> | neat |
| 17:05 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:05 | <Chutt> | so that'd be a tad hard to do |
| 17:05 | <vektor> | i have some time until my wife comes home, maybe i'll go buy a gf4 |
| 17:06 | <vektor> | then i can see for myself |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | i'm not using the gf4 for tv out anymore, though |
| 17:06 | <vektor> | oh, what do you use? |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | since the tv box is a mini-itx |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | the tv out's pretty crappy |
| 17:06 | <vektor> | so you use an external converter? |
| 17:06 | <Chutt> | naw, just using the tv out on the board |
| 17:06 | <vektor> | ooh |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | it's ok |
| 17:07 | <vektor> | and how does that work for interlaced input? |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | doesn't |
| 17:07 | <vektor> | ok, so you just deinterlace |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:07 | <vektor> | have you tried running tvtime on it? |
| 17:07 | <vektor> | at 60fps ? |
| 17:07 | <vektor> | i'd be curious to see how it fares |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | i highly doubt that that would break the box |
| 17:07 | <Chutt> | reverse the logic there |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | these chips are _slow_ |
| 17:08 | <vektor> | oh you're using an epia ? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | mini-itx, epia-m |
| 17:08 | <vektor> | but it can decode mpeg4 ok in realtime? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | barely |
| 17:08 | <vektor> | fuck |
| 17:08 | <vektor> | do you encode from another box? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | i've got the pvr-350 in there |
| 17:08 | <vektor> | or you're using the pvr-250 now |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | ooh |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | so i'm hoping to use its tv out once tmk writes code |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | yeah |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | but you wouldn't get a framebuffer |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | i would |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | oh? |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | interlaced framebuffer? :) |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | no |
| 17:09 | * vektor | goes back to the ivtv docs page |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | why would i need a framebuffer? |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | i'd just be using the -350 for input |
| 17:09 | <vektor> | for your osd etc |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | and maybe dvds |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | it has a hardware overlay |
| 17:10 | <vektor> | ugh |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | you send it data, it'll do the alpha blending for you |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | why ugh? |
| 17:10 | <vektor> | cause then your code isn't as clean |
| 17:11 | <vektor> | have to write special code for that |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | naw, not really |
| 17:11 | <vektor> | well, mostly special |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | just a little bit |
| 17:11 | <vektor> | i see in the firmware api about how it can read from a YUV framebuffer for the tv out |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | going to have to have a new playback class for it anyway |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | there's that, too |
| 17:11 | <vektor> | but i'd still need an interrupt either every field, or every frame |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | but i don't know if it's interlaced |
| 17:12 | <vektor> | hmm |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 17:12 | <vektor> | yeah |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | tmk, really, you don't update CVS so often that you need instant access =) |
| 17:12 | <vektor> | did you enter that 'powerpvr' contest? |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | for non-developres |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | naw |
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| 17:12 | <vektor> | i sent in a thing |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | i don't want to take a winner's slot away |
| 17:13 | <vektor> | for tvtime |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 17:13 | * bline | is waiting on access |
| 17:13 | <vektor> | haha :) |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | ivytv and myth were specifically mentioned |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | so i dont think we were eligible |
| 17:13 | <vektor> | heh |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | either that or we win by default? |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | morph (guy that runs it, sits in here sometimes) said i could enter |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | i submit "mythtv" |
| 17:13 | <tmk> | you submit ivytv |
| 17:14 | <vektor> | i think i'm going to shut down my box and put in the pvr-250 now |
| 17:14 | <vektor> | back in a bit |
| 17:14 | <tmk> | later |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | if you want to do pvr on linux, it's vdr, or mythtv |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | so, um, yeah |
| 17:14 | <tmk> | no freevo? |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | they still don't do timeshifting officially yet |
| 17:14 | <tmk> | ah |
| 17:14 | <tmk> | pvr is just recording though ;) |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | naw, i consider live tv stuff an integral part of being a pvr |
| 17:15 | <tmk> | i see |
| 17:15 | <just1nux> | chutt: did you get my list of menu screens earlier? |
| 17:15 | <Chutt> | just1nux, yeah, i'll get those fixed up |
| 17:16 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 17:16 | <just1nux> | ok, it was after a netsplit, so i wasnt sure if it got missed. |
| 17:16 | <just1nux> | does mythGallery or Game have any additional menu screens? |
| 17:16 | <tmk> | Chutt: you a student? or just bored at work |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | dunno right off, but i'll get em when i do the rest |
| 17:17 | <just1nux> | k. |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | tmk, i telecommute or whatever you want to call it |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | work from home |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | just1nux, tv_schedule.xml already has a mode of 'SCHEDULE' |
| 17:20 | <tmk> | heh |
| 17:20 | <Chutt> | is that used elsewhere? |
| 17:20 | <tmk> | gotcha |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | and music settings has a "MUSIC_SETTINGS" mode |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | also unique |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | video's already VIDEO_SETTINGS |
| 17:26 | <mechou> | chutt: what powerpvr contest was vektor referring to? |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | go to the www.viaarena.com page, look at the competitions section |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | just1nux, mythtv schedule is "SCHEDULE" mythtv settings is "TVSETUP", mythmusic settings is "MUSIC SETTINGS", mythvideo settings is "VIDEO SETTINGS" |
| 17:31 | <mechou> | chutt, i just read it, why don't you qualify? It says it open to everyone except sponsor employees..., nutin' bout developers can't enter... |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | mechou, who said i don't qualify? |
| 17:33 | <mechou> | I didn't follow chat, but someone earlier said mythtv and ivtv... |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | they're specifically mentioned in the press release announcing the contest |
| 17:38 | <extremis> | Does anyone here have an echostar 6000 receiver? |
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| 17:42 | <mechou> | chutt, sheeh... if via were smart, they should have just donated a couple of mini-itx to you. |
| 17:43 | <Chutt> | they gave me one |
| 17:43 | <mechou> | well, there you go... |
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| 18:00 | <dopez> | is there a feature planned to start the recording a few minutes before a program starts? (i've been trying to add it, with not much luck so far) |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | eventually |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | it's not high priority for me |
| 18:01 | <Snow-Man> | I thought there already was something like that. |
| 18:02 | <dopez> | ok, i'll keep on hacking then, maybe i'll get it working ;) |
| 18:02 | <tmk> | Chutt: you get a bunch of request from euros to update things via teletext or whatever? |
| 18:02 | <tmk> | so it can automatically sync with program start time |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 18:02 | <dopez> | (tv channels here in holland are really crappy, programs start either 15 minutes early or later most of the time) |
| 18:04 | <dopez> | Snow-Man: there is an option to record a few minutes past the show |
| 18:05 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: the building instructions in 18.9 are all i should need to include debugging symbols, correct? (i also have -g in in my CFLAGS) |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 18:05 | <Peit|Home> | ta |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | dopez, where were you trying to add it? |
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| 18:07 | <dopez> | i was copy/pasting all the recordover stuff to recordbefore stuff, than ran into trouble cause i couldnt find out where it using the starttime |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | oh, that wouldn't work |
| 18:07 | <dopez> | ok ;) |
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| 18:39 | <tmk> | sf.net currently lagging 41 hours |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | and counting |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | >:( |
| 18:40 | <dopez> | and almost impossible to do a checkout ;( |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 18:40 | * tmk | ponders |
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| 18:57 | <tmk> | dopez: I put a tarball up on http://ivtv.sf.net |
| 18:57 | * tmk | is fed up |
| 18:57 | <dopez> | tmk: cool, i wish other projects would do the same ;) |
| 18:58 | <dopez> | (sf projects that is ;) |
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| 19:39 | <Snow-Man> | hmm, hmm, hmm. |
| 19:40 | <Snow-Man> | What calls keyPressEvent? Is that just a Qt thing that 'happens'? |
| 19:43 | <Snow-Man> | class MythMainWindow : public QDialog |
| 19:43 | <Snow-Man> | hmmmmm~ |
| 19:43 | <thor> | Qt does it |
| 19:44 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf. |
| 19:44 | <thor> | you can create events yourself though (if that's what you want) ?? |
| 19:44 | <kslater> | hey thor, I'm seeing a strange thing with mythmusic. |
| 19:44 | <thor> | ok |
| 19:45 | <kslater> | couple day old cvs make. NOT using Qt3.1 (ducks) |
| 19:45 | <Snow-Man> | thor: I'm looking to be able to control mythtv through something other than the main keyboard. |
| 19:45 | <thor> | Snow-Man, like this old Fujitsu touch screen tablet I've been fiddling with all day? |
| 19:45 | <kslater> | seems to lockup the frontend, gui gets hosed (doesn't repaint). |
| 19:45 | <Snow-Man> | thor: Well, sure. |
| 19:46 | <Snow-Man> | thor: You havn't done this already, have you? |
| 19:46 | <thor> | touchsreen? |
| 19:46 | <Snow-Man> | No, changed mythtv. :) |
| 19:46 | <thor> | I'm just fiddling around at this point |
| 19:46 | <thor> | kslater, a few more details please |
| 19:46 | <Snow-Man> | The touchscreen bit is an interesting idea. |
| 19:46 | <thor> | tap tap, music music |
| 19:47 | <Snow-Man> | I'm not sure how hard it'd be to support that. |
| 19:47 | <Snow-Man> | It'd probably be more effort than what I'm trying. |
| 19:47 | <thor> | just getting ThemedDialog to calculate what widget is "on top" after a mouse press |
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| 19:47 | <kslater> | It starts playing a tune (ogg or mp3) and keeps playing but the gui locks up. |
| 19:47 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, the touchscreen is acting like a mouse? |
| 19:48 | <thor> | Snow-Man, yup |
| 19:48 | <kslater> | what else can I tell you? I don't see any errors on the xterm it's started from. |
| 19:48 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, ok, that's easier then. :) |
| 19:48 | <thor> | kslater, if you can ctrl-c when it's visually locked up and post a bt somewhere, that would help ... |
| 19:49 | <thor> | (after building for debugging) |
| 19:49 | <thor> | =) |
| 19:49 | <kslater> | ok. I'll have to rebuild. Thanks. |
| 19:51 | <thor> | kslater, you running RedHat? |
| 19:51 | <thor> | 8.x'ish? |
| 19:51 | <kslater> | actually 7.3 was what it started as |
| 19:52 | <kslater> | i'm using kernel 2.4.20-ac2 though |
| 19:52 | <thor> | lots of RedHat <--> thread library problems floating around that cause this sort of thing |
| 19:52 | <Chutt> | that's really only with rh9 |
| 19:53 | <kslater> | I'm wondering if it's an issue with having Random set for visualization, but not having Goom built |
| 19:53 | <Chutt> | random should only select from available ones |
| 19:53 | <thor> | you can always test by setting your vis to "Blank" |
| 19:54 | <kslater> | I just picked 3 that I know work. I'll test a while and see. |
| 19:54 | <Snow-Man> | ok, so the idea here is to register my own socketnotifier with the QEventLoop and then process those and hopefully I can just throw a keyevent myself? |
| 19:54 | <kslater> | how much effort is the Qt3.1 upgrade worth? |
| 19:55 | <thor> | Snow-Man, sounds like you want an xmms like ability to listen for commands on a socket and do something |
| 19:55 | <Snow-Man> | You are using the QEventLoop, right? |
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| 19:55 | <thor> | yup |
| 19:55 | <Snow-Man> | thor: Yup, basically. |
| 19:56 | <kslater> | Chutt: I'm way behind on myth-list reading (about 1 week), have you heard about via releasing the code for the MPEG2 decoder for the EPIA boards? |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | they pulled it. |
| 19:56 | <thor> | this is going to get easier as music splits into front and back ends |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | it was "released" for a couple hours :p |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | unless they've gone and re-released things? |
| 19:56 | <kslater> | from their website they did, but they gave it to Alan Cox and they're working on building it out. |
| 19:57 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:57 | <thor> | kslater, I think building Qt 3.1 is trivial, just make sure you read ./configure --help and do all the important bits |
| 19:57 | <Chutt> | i keep meaning to get back to them, as they've mentioned i could get that stuff eventually |
| 19:57 | <Chutt> | i really don't want to write code for them, though |
| 19:58 | <kslater> | I agree. You've got enough on your plate. I'm serious about AC though. |
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| 19:58 | <Chutt> | yeah, i know 'bout him having stuff |
| 19:58 | <kslater> | for a poor dude like me an EPIA mpeg2 decode ability would be nice to have. |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | i'd rather have the pvr-350 tv-out/decoding supported |
| 19:59 | <kslater> | understood. what size is a pvr-250? 1/2 height? (hopefully) |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | no |
| 19:59 | <Chutt> | it's full-height |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | and fairly long |
| 20:00 | <Chutt> | won't fit into small cases |
| 20:00 | <kslater> | sounds like I'd need a new case as well then. |
| 20:00 | <FreddieD> | it's only like 1/2 the size of my Voodoo5 5500 tho :P |
| 20:01 | <FreddieD> | you know a card is too big when it requires a dedicated power supply plug |
| 20:02 | <tmk> | i didn't think the pvr's were that big |
| 20:02 | <Chutt> | they're huge :p |
| 20:02 | <tmk> | heh |
| 20:02 | <Chutt> | compared to other tv cards, at least |
| 20:03 | <tmk> | i'll have to look again |
| 20:03 | <tmk> | i don't think it's much longer than is a pci slot |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | it is |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | i had to buy a short DVD-ROM drive for my mini-itx box to fit in the -250 originally |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | though i trashed that case, as it was way too warm |
| 20:04 | <FreddieD> | does anybody recommend an ATX desktop-shaped case that looks like something OTHER than a computer case for this thing? |
| 20:05 | <FreddieD> | my wife has issues with me putting an obvious looking computer tower in the living room :P |
| 20:05 | <tmk> | for like $300 you can get a brushed aluminum case |
| 20:05 | <tmk> | that looks like a reciever |
| 20:06 | <Chutt> | or you can buy a cheap case and hide it in the stereo rack |
| 20:06 | <FreddieD> | yeah im thinking the latter |
| 20:07 | <kslater> | Chutt: are you using 0.9.4 alsa drivers with your EPIA? And is that the first version that supports the dxs_support=3 param? |
| 20:07 | <tmk> | there are some mini-itx cases which are long rather than boxy |
| 20:07 | <tmk> | might fit ok in those |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | kslater, yup. |
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| 20:07 | <FreddieD> | is mini-itx different from mini atx? |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | i'm using a cvs snapshot of alsa from when they added that option, actually |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | but the via driver's the same in all more recent releases |
| 20:08 | <Snow-Man> | afk a few. |
| 20:08 | <kslater> | .9.3 didn't seem to like that param |
| 20:08 | <Snow-Man> | I wonder if I can just straight up call keyPressEvent directly. |
| 20:08 | <Snow-Man> | hmmm. |
| 20:08 | <Snow-Man> | Anyhow, gotta go wash bottles. :) |
| 20:09 | <kslater> | Snow-Man: brewing? |
| 20:09 | <Chutt> | snowman, you can dispatch the event to the top level window |
| 20:09 | <Chutt> | it's like notify() or some crap |
| 20:09 | <Snow-Man> | Hrm, what's it in? QObject or something? Didn't see it as part of QEventLoop.. |
| 20:11 | <Snow-Man> | hmmmm, there's connectNotify.. |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | qapplication |
| 20:11 | <Snow-Man> | Ahh, coo' |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | qApp->notify(gContext->GetMainWindow(), event); |
| 20:11 | <Snow-Man> | ok, I'll play with that after bottles and giving Ryan a bath. :) |
| 20:12 | <kslater> | oh those kind of bottles. |
| 20:12 | <tmk> | then later he'll wash diapers ;) |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | snowman, just be careful not to loop events |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | bad things happen |
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| 20:24 | <Chutt> | did 'Michael Greb' ever attach his patch? |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | or did he really send in 3 emails without it |
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| 20:36 | <thor> | The one in the middle has it |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | i don't see it there |
| 20:38 | <thor> | capitonbox.patch |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | oh, it's encoded weird |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | well, either that or kmail broke |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | equally likely =) |
| 20:40 | <thor> | it's about four lines long |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 21:01 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Awww. :) |
| 21:10 | <thor> | The spam gets weirder every day |
| 21:10 | <Snow-Man> | yup. |
| 21:10 | <thor> | Subject: Dimensional Warp Generator Needed gocjb |
| 21:11 | <mechou> | spammers trying to fool all those bayesian filters... |
| 21:11 | <thor> | Content: The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a series wrist watch with z60 or better memory adapter. |
| 21:13 | <mechou> | they'd have way more misspellings... |
| 21:15 | <Snow-Man> | hmm, hmm. |
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| 21:29 | <Chutt> | snowman, working? |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | or no |
| 21:29 | <Snow-Man> | Reading up about Qt classes atm, specifically. |
| 21:29 | <Snow-Man> | sup? |
| 21:29 | <Chutt> | nothin, just curious |
| 21:31 | <thor> | is it possible someone could need three days and half a dozen e-mails to discover that the arrow keys would let them navigate their music tree? |
| 21:31 | <thor> | ugh |
| 21:31 | <Snow-Man> | haha |
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| 21:40 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: So I guess I need to create a QEventLoop before QApplication is created. |
| 21:41 | <thor> | Snow-Man, you don't need to create the loop, really ... |
| 21:41 | <thor> | I think (you) want a QSocket that pushes out QKeyEvents |
| 21:42 | <thor> | Qt will take care of executing the right bits of your QSocket when data arrices |
| 21:42 | <thor> | arrives |
| 21:42 | <Snow-Man> | Well, sure, does QSocket have an ability to register itself in a loop? |
| 21:42 | <Snow-Man> | huh, alright. |
| 21:43 | <Snow-Man> | Guess I should have read about QSocket first. :) |
| 21:43 | <thor> | are you writing a standalone app, or something that bolts on to something else? |
| 21:44 | <Snow-Man> | My intent is to make this part of mythfrontend |
| 21:44 | <Snow-Man> | I'm thinking that's the only thing that'd benefit from it. |
| 21:44 | <thor> | ok, so you just need to subclass QSocket and make it do interesting things when Qt says, "here's some data that just arrived" |
| 21:45 | <Snow-Man> | I figured I had to hook myself into the loop explicitly but I guess not. |
| 21:46 | <thor> | as long as the object is "in scope" (not technically using scope correctly, but you get the idea) it'll do what you want |
| 21:46 | <Snow-Man> | ok. |
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| 22:34 | <thor> | all right, that about pushes me over the edge |
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| 22:36 | <bline> | what |
| 22:36 | <fulbert> | my setup has two 250 cards,is there a way to specify which to use for liveTV? seems to use video0. |
| 22:36 | <thor> | there's guy who has sent me three e-mails in which he has tried to paste mysql select results |
| 22:37 | <thor> | 3 times |
| 22:37 | <thor> | paste |
| 22:37 | <thor> | it's just beyond belief |
| 22:38 | <thor> | fulbert, I think it defaults to whatever is first (as long as it's free) |
| 22:38 | <fulbert> | yeah, trying to get around that. I have digicable with the external decoder video1, and a analog feed into the tuner on video0, I wanted to use video1 as the live source. |
| 22:38 | <fulbert> | I guess I'll switch the inputs. |
| 22:39 | <thor> | probably fastest |
| 22:39 | <extremis> | Does anyone have a dishnet 6000 receiver? |
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| 22:57 | <srl> | Any MythGame users here? |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | apparently, the beginning mythtv user should just be skipping sections 3 and 4 of the howto |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | and magically figure out what prerequisites are necessary on their own |
| 23:04 | <srl> | ok! |
| 23:04 | <Chutt> | srl, sorry =) |
| 23:04 | <srl> | I upgraded mame and now my neogeo games don't show up in the list |
| 23:04 | <srl> | It doesn't make any sense to me |
| 23:05 | <Snow-Man> | So, check a config option for 'commandSocket' or something, maybe with a port option, create a QSocket to listen on that socket and then generate keyPressEvent's and dump them into the event queue using notify. |
| 23:05 | <srl> | Snow-Man!!!!!! |
| 23:05 | <Snow-Man> | srl; Heya. |
| 23:06 | <Snow-Man> | Gotta figure out who should own the QSocket and make sure it has all the info it needs at that point to generate the event |
| 23:06 | <Snow-Man> | Have to work out a protocol to use too I suppose. |
| 23:07 | <Snow-Man> | Though it doesn't have to be very complex. |
| 23:14 | <srl> | What is the url for the mailing list? |
| 23:23 | <srl> | nm |
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