| 00:07 | <fulbert> | can anyone give me a pointer with a dual 250 card setup? I keep getting "wanted to record... but current state is 4" when two conflicting programs are set to record. |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | fulbert, did you set up both cards? |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | you'd get that if you didn't |
| 00:14 | <fulbert> | yeah, |
| 00:14 | <fulbert> | I can watch live TV on one while the other records, |
| 00:14 | <fulbert> | but two recordings fail |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 00:15 | <fulbert> | I do note that I can't change channel on the one card with myth direct, I have to use up/down, I can't use numberpad or the menu to change channel. |
| 00:15 | <fulbert> | I checked, and both are set to the tuner. |
| 00:15 | <fulbert> | I have the same video source configured to them, should I made a second video source for my cable system? |
| 00:16 | <fulbert> | when I did that, and I setup two overlapping programs, it showed them as a conflict on the one card, so I changed to both the same video source. |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | no, both should be the same source |
| 00:17 | <fulbert> | hmm |
| 00:17 | <fulbert> | yeah, it's not happy. |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | is the second card set to that source properly? |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | can you do a dump of the capturecard and cardinput tables? |
| 00:17 | <fulbert> | yeah, odd thing is that video0 is the first card, and it's the one not working. |
| 00:18 | <fulbert> | the new card I added later, video1 is working. |
| 00:18 | <fulbert> | from the db? |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | know how? |
| 00:18 | <fulbert> | I could muttle my way with sql, but if you have a cut and paste ;-) |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | run the 'mysql' program |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | 'use mythconverg;' |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | 'select * from capturecard;' |
| 00:19 | <Chutt> | 'select * from cardinput;' |
| 00:20 | <fulbert> | ok |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | without all the single quotes, of course = |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | err, =) |
| 00:20 | <fulbert> | only diff is in cardinput |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | paste both in here, if you don't mind |
| 00:21 | <fulbert> | | 1 | /dev/video0 | /dev/dsp | /dev/vbi | MPEG | Tuner 0 | 48000 | linus | NULL | NULL | |
| 00:21 | <fulbert> | | 2 | /dev/video1 | /dev/dsp | /dev/vbi | MPEG | Tuner 0 | 48000 | linus | NULL | NULL | |
| 00:21 | <fulbert> | | 2 | 2 | 1 | Tuner 0 | | NULL | N | | 4 | |
| 00:21 | <fulbert> | | 3 | 1 | 1 | Tuner 0 | | NULL | N | | | |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | hmm |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | both look fine |
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| 00:23 | <fulbert> | oh, you know what... |
| 00:23 | <fulbert> | hehe |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | hm? |
| 00:24 | <fulbert> | I think the two times the clock rolled over to the start of recording... I was in the liveTV module... so I had a card in use... |
| 00:24 | <fulbert> | hehe. |
| 00:24 | <fulbert> | I was looking at wall clock.. server is using NTP time set for my cable provider... |
| 00:24 | <fulbert> | that could be it? |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | possibly |
| 00:24 | <fulbert> | does it warn that a record is coming up and get you out of live? |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | should, yeah |
| 00:25 | <fulbert> | mmm |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | when you set up two overlapping programs, it doesn't show them as conflicting, right? |
| 00:25 | <fulbert> | nope. |
| 00:25 | <fulbert> | i see it saying it tried to start both, but it says the second one was in "state 4" |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | that's just saying that it was recording already |
| 00:27 | <fulbert> | I setup another overlap to start on the half hour, and I'm out of live tv now. |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | allright |
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| 00:27 | <Chutt> | have you restarted mythbackend since you've changed things around at all? |
| 00:27 | <fulbert> | mmm |
| 00:27 | <fulbert> | maybe |
| 00:27 | <fulbert> | can I stop it while it's recording? |
| 00:28 | <fulbert> | I think I might have changed from Svideo to the tuner since last reload of back |
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| 00:28 | <fulbert> | I was working with my digicable box trying to get it working, but gave up with lirc until I get a better blaster unit. |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | lotta the stuff in the setup program only gets loaded on startup |
| 00:28 | <fulbert> | ah |
| 00:28 | <fulbert> | mm |
| 00:28 | <fulbert> | ok |
| 00:29 | <fulbert> | well I'll give it a try when this fails then ;-) |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | blah |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | i should just unsubscribe from the mailing lists |
| 00:30 | <fulbert> | I wish I could se the bitrate per program. my analog cable looks like poop at all rates, but the digicable looks a lot better at high rate. chan >100=8Mb/s |
| 00:30 | <bline> | heh |
| 00:32 | <fulbert> | nope, it ignored the request to record the other program. |
| 00:32 | <fulbert> | don't even see it try to start that one. |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | are you running the backend in verbose mode? |
| 00:33 | <fulbert> | nope, just in the fg with no opts. |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | might be worthwhile to add a -v to the command line when you restart it |
| 00:33 | <fulbert> | I'll stop it when it's done with this recording and setup better. |
| 00:34 | <fulbert> | I'm just glad I fixed the debug=127 I had in modules.conf for the ivtv... when the drive got to 1% free.. hehe |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | i've done that a couple times |
| 00:34 | <fulbert> | 10GB of log. |
| 00:34 | <fulbert> | I was happy. |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | bline, you're on -users, right? |
| 00:36 | <bline> | yeah Chutt |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | was i being confrontational or anything? |
| 00:36 | * bline | looks |
| 00:36 | <Chutt> | ray's reply |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | should be the most recent message |
| 00:39 | <bline> | there was a bit of sarcasm in your questions |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | well, yeah |
| 00:39 | <bline> | atleast one of them |
| 00:40 | <bline> | sarcasm is confrontational heh |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 00:41 | <bline> | I wouldn't say it was to the level he claims it was though |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | i was a little annoyed that he's implying that the docs are useless |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | well, he's more than implying |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | and he called your mailing list archives crummy =) |
| 00:43 | <bline> | perhaps you should mention that, and ask that he post in the form of patches to the docs. |
| 00:43 | <bline> | didn't see that part |
| 00:43 | <bline> | just tell him to fuck off then |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | "They do have problems 'finding' the explanations, when they are scattered over 4 poorly-organized sources (an unsearchable HowTo; a mismash FAQ; a mailing list with a crummy search engine; and a few bits sprinked in the source download)." |
| 00:45 | <fulbert> | and the faq is down now ;-) |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:45 | <bline> | Maybe he saw the "other" archive |
| 00:45 | <bline> | besides, he must be dence not to know he can use google to search it. |
| 00:49 | <bline> | Sounds like he wants step by step documentation |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | then why would his entire set of 'how to get and install' stuff consist of a link to the tarball, and 'uncompress, make, make install' |
| 00:50 | <bline> | maybe he thinks its that simple heh |
| 00:50 | <fulbert> | are you guys working on myth docs? |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | me? no |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | i don't touch the docs |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | someone on the mailing list was working on a 'beginner's faq' |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | and asked for comments |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | so i commented on it |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | and he got all hostile and defensive |
| 00:52 | <fulbert> | ah yeah, I saw that, the thread on the faq. |
| 00:52 | <fulbert> | I ignored it after 2 or 3 posts though |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | i'm really tempted to just unsubscribe from -users |
| 00:52 | <bline> | I like to see the libs interfaces documented =) |
| 00:52 | <fulbert> | heh, it's a lot of noise. |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | bline, maybe when it stops changing |
| 00:52 | <fulbert> | one more "what hardware" post... |
| 00:53 | <bline> | I don't think it would be a Good Thing [TM] if Chutt unsubscribed to his own list |
| 00:55 | <fulbert> | chutt == isaac? first time in chan for me. |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:56 | <fulbert> | ah, well, hello and thanks! |
| 01:02 | * bline | chimes in |
| 01:04 | <fulbert> | ok, now after backend reload it's recording from both sources it seems I have nuv's with the right times, and they are both growing |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 01:05 | <fulbert> | now let's hope the nic holds up to two streams at 12Mb/s |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | are you using the release or cvs? |
| 01:05 | <fulbert> | I have cvs from 24th. |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | from before or after my scheduler changes? |
| 01:06 | <fulbert> | well, the gigE port shows 20Mb/s for a 1min ave... cool. |
| 01:06 | <Chutt> | if you know =) |
| 01:06 | <fulbert> | I converted to nfs last night to |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | that whole idiosyncratic thing pissed me off, too |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | guess i'm just easily annoyed =) |
| 01:10 | <bline> | heh |
| 01:11 | <bline> | Was I question too confrontational? |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | hehe |
| 01:11 | <bline> | s/I/my/ |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | do you normally have the gossamer threads bit as your sig? |
| 01:11 | <bline> | yeah |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | it would have been if you had added that specially |
| 01:12 | <bline> | nope, you can check my other posts =) |
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| 01:19 | <Chutt> | 'If you really want to take your toys and go home, go ahead.' |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | and i don't |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | I really shouldn't put that in my reply, should I? |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | yeah.. you already come off as perterbed |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | :) |
| 01:20 | <extremis> | Chutt: do you know anyone using an echostar 6000 receiver? |
| 01:20 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 01:20 | <tmk> | that's a fun word |
| 01:20 | <extremis> | I've been doing quite a bit of reading and have had little success in getting lirc to send the write signals |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | tmk, this guy's writing a 'beginner's faq' and being rather insulting over the whole thing :( |
| 01:21 | <tmk> | :< |
| 01:21 | <tmk> | beginners need love, not bitterness |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | now he says it's turning into a fight, and he's going to stop work on it |
| 01:22 | <tmk> | that's what sucks about volunteer work |
| 01:22 | <tmk> | everyone thinks their time is really valuable |
| 01:22 | <tmk> | which it is |
| 01:22 | <Chutt> | my time's more valuable than his =) |
| 01:22 | <tmk> | but their fruits are not always juicy |
| 01:22 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | man the more external programs use my api |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | the more careful i hvae to be :< |
| 01:23 | <bline> | heh |
| 01:23 | <Chutt> | he's calling the existing docs usless, haphazard, a mishmash |
| 01:23 | <bline> | saw that post by james did you? |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | and fixed it i might add |
| 01:23 | <tmk> | well in theory |
| 01:23 | <bline> | I think all the codec stuff should move to that,,, |
| 01:24 | <tmk> | which |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | separate ioctls? |
| 01:24 | <Chutt> | well, same ioctl, different params |
| 01:24 | * tmk | becons bline to #ivtv-dev |
| 01:24 | <tmk> | +k |
| 01:24 | <bline> | :) |
| 01:24 | <tmk> | nah i implemented v4l2 menu |
| 01:24 | <mechou> | it just amazes me how many people dont *carefully* read the docs. |
| 01:25 | <mechou> | they expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | all the docs were written by actual users |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | which is very nice |
| 01:25 | <Chutt> | not very much of them are developer written |
| 01:25 | <mechou> | and sometimes these people ought to know better... |
| 01:26 | <fulbert> | the install and using docs from the docs link was usefull for me, though it did leave me with questions on a pvr 250 setup. |
| 01:26 | <fulbert> | a week of mailing list and I was running though ;-) |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:26 | * tmk | notes that it was an audio problem |
| 01:26 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | did the 'I'd like to use a hardware mpeg-2 encoder' section work ok? |
| 01:27 | <fulbert> | well, that was version 2, I had one card working for a week or so now |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | that's fairly step-by-step |
| 01:27 | <mechou> | that's prob cause pvr250 just got integrated to mythtv around that time... |
| 01:27 | <fulbert> | two cards was pushing my technical abilities. |
| 01:27 | <fulbert> | yeah, I kinda knew I was on the edge, and didn't expect it to work at all ;-) |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | fulbert: i'd recommend getting latest ivtv-cvs |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | there's some scaling fixes |
| 01:27 | <tmk> | if you don't plan on capturing at full-res |
| 01:27 | <fulbert> | I do as of the 25th. |
| 01:28 | <tmk> | this is as of 10 minutes ago :) |
| 01:28 | <fulbert> | ah ;) |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | which _really_ means as of May 16th |
| 01:28 | <tmk> | get it at http://ivtv.sf.net |
| 01:28 | <tmk> | i put tarballs on the webpage |
| 01:28 | * tmk | smacks sf.net |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | due to sourceforge's suck factor |
| 01:28 | <fulbert> | I was stuck with the test_ioctl not able to compile for a few days as I upgraded to dual cards also ;-) |
| 01:28 | <mechou> | but this irc channel is really helpful. |
| 01:28 | <fulbert> | CVS server has ben a dog of late. |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | it's a really good thing i almost never send out my first draft emails |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | time to delete that |
| 01:29 | <tmk> | ^H^H^H^H |
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| 01:29 | <mechou> | but irc chats don't get preseved for posterity (so others can't really benefit) |
| 01:29 | <tmk> | sure they do |
| 01:29 | <tmk> | there's always someone who logs everything |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | moegreen, hi |
| 01:30 | <mechou> | where? |
| 01:30 | <moegreen> | Chutt: hey |
| 01:30 | <tmk> | ah but not for posterity |
| 01:31 | <mechou> | I forget that fellows name, but who's the lead for smoothwall? |
| 01:31 | <mechou> | We need a manifesto like his |
| 01:32 | <mechou> | "Do your homework! before posting ?" |
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| 01:48 | <bbeattie> | is there a way to force remove programs from the database if the file on disk doesnt exist? |
| 01:49 | <tmk> | delete * from <table> where <field>="programname" |
| 01:49 | <tmk> | or something |
| 01:50 | <mechou> | sql: remove from recorded where title="programname" and subtitle="Programsubtitle"; |
| 01:50 | <moegreen> | delete from <table> where field="program name" |
| 01:51 | <bline> | could also touch the file and use myth to remove it... |
| 01:51 | <bbeattie> | how do I figure out the filename to touch? |
| 01:51 | <bbeattie> | it's all date/program stamped, |
| 01:51 | <fulbert> | try to delete it and look at output from backend -v |
| 01:51 | <bline> | chanelid_starttime_endtime.nuv |
| 01:54 | <mechou> | bline, how does myth actually remove it if the file gets touched? |
| 01:54 | <mechou> | is there a "cleaner" thread? |
| 01:54 | <bline> | unlink() I would guess |
| 01:55 | <bline> | I'd have to dig into the code to see.. |
| 01:55 | <mechou> | nah, I mean high level... |
| 01:56 | <mechou> | I'm just not familiar w/ "trick" you're suggesting... |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | the reason it's not deleting it now is because the file doesn't exist |
| 01:56 | <bline> | mechou: I was suggesting he delete it from the delete interface, I assumed he was refering to a movie he recorded |
| 01:56 | <Chutt> | if you touch it, the file'll exist, then it can be deleted from the ui |
| 01:58 | <mechou> | gothcha, I somehow got confused, thought he was talking about a file that already exist.... |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | so i've got a few minutes to code |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | should i fix the audio whine |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | or make the audio api work internally |
| 02:01 | <tmk> | hmm |
| 02:02 | * tmk | leans towards the audio api |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | think of all the ears you could save |
| 02:02 | * bline | agrees |
| 02:02 | <tmk> | egads |
| 02:02 | <tmk> | it's 11 |
| 02:02 | <Chutt> | it's 2 |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | bah |
| 02:03 | * tmk | lives in california |
| 02:03 | <bigguy> | it's 1 |
| 02:03 | <bigguy> | :P |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | it's still 2 am |
| 02:03 | <Chutt> | there is no timezone but eastern |
| 02:03 | <mechou> | North or South CA? |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | middle |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | north i suppose if you had to draw a line |
| 02:03 | <tmk> | silicon valley |
| 02:04 | <mechou> | nah, SV is defininately N. I'm moving back there n a few days |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | cool |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | it was hot today |
| 02:04 | * tmk | 's tomatoes and peppers will be happy |
| 02:04 | <mechou> | how hot?>95F? |
| 02:04 | <bigguy> | 97F today here |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | yeah about that |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | i was inside most of the day |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | but it's 82 inside right now |
| 02:04 | <tmk> | at 11pm |
| 02:05 | <bline> | better start on that audio stuff before it gets to late tmk :) |
| 02:05 | <mechou> | thats when you go up to SF to cool off... |
| 02:05 | <bigguy> | inside> |
| 02:05 | <bigguy> | ? |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | yes |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | indoors |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | hm |
| 02:05 | <bigguy> | no ac? |
| 02:05 | * tmk | goes and codes some more |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | nah |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | house is too big |
| 02:05 | <tmk> | only has ac for upstairs |
| 02:06 | <bigguy> | heh we have a large ac unit |
| 02:06 | <bigguy> | keep it at ~74 |
| 02:06 | <mechou> | tmk, how long have you lived there? |
| 02:13 | <bbeattie> | is there a way to disable id3 checking? mythmusic appears to stop parsing the tree structure when it encounters an mp3 with a bad id3 tag. I personally ignore all mp3 tags as the filenames are all perfect. |
| 02:15 | <bline> | bbeattie: maybe the Ignore ID3 tags checkbox? |
| 02:18 | <bbeattie> | bline it's checked, has been, maybe it's a bad mp3 or something?.. anyway, after about 1k songs, it stops listing anymore.. I'll check into it more tomorrow |
| 02:18 | <bline> | Well I was just guessing |
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| 02:21 | <bbeattie> | bline :) |
| 02:21 | <bbeattie> | night |
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| 02:25 | <tmk> | mechou: lived in the area like 15 years |
| 02:27 | <tmk> | .. and he was gone before i answered |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | don't worry, that was only 6 or 7 minutes ago |
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| 03:25 | <tmk> | night |
| 03:25 | <tmk> | audio is hooked up |
| 03:25 | <tmk> | that means msp whine is next |
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| 06:09 | <Peit> | Chutt: you around? could you run objdump -g against your mythtv? (i followed the instructions on the webpage and i'm still getting "objdump: /usr/bin/mythtv: no recognized debugging information" |
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| 08:52 | <Conaz> | anyone receiving duplicate messages from the list the past couple of days? |
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| 08:57 | <Peit> | not me |
| 08:57 | <Peit> | Conaz: have you got a debug version of mythtv built? |
| 08:57 | <Conaz> | ok, just checking |
| 08:58 | <Conaz> | I haven't pulled down cvs since the UI screens were merged |
| 08:58 | <Peit> | this is 0.9.1 |
| 08:58 | <Conaz> | I've been re-coding the xbox-linux's usb-xboxir.c module |
| 08:58 | <Conaz> | I have a cvs version sometime shortly after 0.9.1 |
| 08:59 | <Conaz> | although I didn't build it in debug mode |
| 09:02 | <Peit> | ah |
| 09:02 | <Peit> | o.k. |
| 09:04 | <Conaz> | It is gonna be awhile before I get back to mythtv, trying to get my head into the xbox kernel code |
| 09:04 | <Peit> | fair does |
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| 10:36 | <Peit> | morning chutt |
| 10:36 | <Chutt> | hi |
| 10:37 | <Conaz> | Hey it is "One of the developers" ;) |
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| 10:41 | <Snow-Man> | bah, Chutt, a developer? nah.. |
| 10:46 | <Conaz> | I always have good laughs when Chutt posts to the list :) |
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| 10:48 | <Chutt> | i'm just trying to provide entertainment to all |
| 10:49 | <Conaz> | and doing a damn fine job! |
| 10:51 | <jkolb> | I dunno. Your most recent post seems devoid of humor. It's almost like you were trying to inform the poor soul. |
| 10:52 | <jkolb> | Maybe you could start adding knock-knock jokes to the end of all your emails. |
| 10:52 | <Chutt> | I'll take that under advisement |
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| 11:04 | <Snow-Man> | hehe. |
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| 11:14 | <Peit> | chutt what CFLAGS do you compile with out of interest? |
| 11:14 | <Chutt> | defaults |
| 11:14 | <Peit> | defaults for debian? |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | that are in the source |
| 11:17 | <Peit> | I really don't get this bug,.. everything works on the backend, it just won't work on the frontend machine :( |
| 11:18 | <Peit> | gdb isn't picking up the symbols, even though nm can see them, |
| 11:19 | <thor> | Peit, what gcc? what gdb? what isn't working? what's compiled for debugging? |
| 11:21 | <Peit> | gcc version 3.2.3 |
| 11:21 | <Peit> | gdb,glibc,bintuils,mythtv, all non stripped, gdb,mythtv and bintuils compiled with -g, myth has CONFIG+= debug in settings.pro |
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| 11:22 | <thor> | Peit, and you did full distclean, make, and install after changing settings.pro? |
| 11:22 | <Peit> | yep |
| 11:23 | <thor> | and what's the error? |
| 11:23 | <thor> | or behaviour |
| 11:24 | <Peit> | no output from runnning mythTV on the front end |
| 11:24 | <thor> | eh? |
| 11:24 | <Peit> | console says "connecting to backend server: <ip>" followed by "Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV" |
| 11:24 | <thor> | no window |
| 11:24 | <Peit> | and thats it, no box with static, no window |
| 11:24 | <thor> | no nothing? |
| 11:24 | <Peit> | I see network traffic, |
| 11:25 | <thor> | you are running "mythfrontend", right? |
| 11:25 | <Peit> | nope, running mythtv (but the same thing happens if you click on the TV link on mythfrontend |
| 11:25 | <thor> | ah |
| 11:26 | <Peit> | if i run gdb, i get "No symbol table info available." |
| 11:26 | <thor> | Suse? |
| 11:26 | <Peit> | gentoo |
| 11:26 | <thor> | hmm |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | if gdb worked, i could tell you what's wrong quite easily :p |
| 11:26 | <Peit> | same behaviour under evolution and kde |
| 11:26 | <thor> | it ain't the window manager |
| 11:26 | <Peit> | chutt i'm sure you could, that's why i've not given up on trying to get gdb to work |
| 11:26 | <Peit> | :) |
| 11:27 | <Peit> | the annoying this is, videolan works fine, but i want to be able to change the channel remotely, and have it watchable on mutliple machines |
| 11:27 | * Peit | has a great vision of 4 frontends, 1 backend and lots of storage |
| 11:28 | <Conaz> | doesn't everyone ;) |
| 11:28 | <Conaz> | have that same vision I mean |
| 11:28 | <thor> | you're absolutely certain you don't have an old libmyth and/or libmythtv lying around that is getting used at runtime ? |
| 11:28 | <thor> | ie. does gdb work on other code? |
| 11:29 | <Peit> | I have 2 of the boxes i need, and i know what boxen i'm buying for the others |
| 11:29 | <Peit> | thor i'll try a clean up |
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| 11:37 | Peit | Peit|Home Jun 26 11:37:19 <mdz> Peit: some versions of Qt strip everything when it is installed |
| 11:37 | <Peit> | mdz hmm, i'll try a recompile of Qt |
| 11:37 | <mdz> | you can modify a config file under QTDIR to fix it if that is the case |
| 11:37 | <mdz> | I have no reason to believe that recompiling Qt would change anything |
| 11:38 | <Peit> | none of the files in /usr/qt/3/bin are stripped |
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| 11:44 | <mdz> | why would they be? |
| 11:44 | <mdz> | I'm talking about things installed by qmake, like mythtv |
| 11:45 | <Peit> | hmm, well 'file' reports mythv as not stripped |
| 11:47 | <thor> | ldd /usr/local/bin/mythtv ? |
| 11:48 | <Peit> | ldd /usr/bin/mythtv |
| 11:48 | <Peit> | what am i looking for, all the libraries are there |
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| 11:50 | <thor> | just that it is pointing to the ones you think it is pointing to |
| 11:50 | <Peit> | can't see anything silly, let me compare against the backend |
| 11:51 | <Peit> | o.k. 1 less library! |
| 11:52 | <thor> | that's probably not crucial |
| 11:53 | <Peit> | liblcms.so |
| 11:54 | <thor> | ? liblcms ? |
| 11:55 | <Peit> | hmm, odd if i start gdb on the backend, it complains about no debugging symbols in myth tv, but the gdb on the frontend doesn't |
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| 11:55 | <Peit> | Description: A lightweight, speed optimized color management engine |
| 11:56 | * Peit | shrugs no idea why i have that linked in |
| 12:06 | <Peit> | o.k. i get the same issues with gdb top |
| 12:25 | <thor> | Chutt, hmmm modules that don't close down their threads cause problems in mythfrontend |
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| 12:26 | <tmk> | mo'nin |
| 12:26 | <thor> | hey |
| 12:26 | <tmk> | and how is the god of thunder and lightning this morning? |
| 12:27 | <Scrye> | god i cant watch normal tv anymore |
| 12:27 | <Scrye> | I HAVE TO SKIP COMMERCIALS |
| 12:27 | <tmk> | you've come to the right place |
| 12:27 | <tmk> | or so i hear |
| 12:27 | <thor> | tmk, confused by threads |
| 12:27 | <tmk> | a shame :< |
| 12:27 | <Scrye> | oh i already have it setup |
| 12:28 | <Scrye> | im just watching live tv now and its bugging the shizznit outta me |
| 12:28 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 12:28 | <Conaz> | We'll just call that the Z feature :) |
| 12:28 | * tmk | wonders how long it will be before commercials pop up on top of programming |
| 12:28 | <Scrye> | there is a channel here that specifically messes up the blank-frame detection |
| 12:28 | <Scrye> | so i have to manually forward that channel |
| 12:29 | * tmk | sheds a single tear |
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| 12:39 | <Conaz> | Did I read that there is a new option to have skip only go a limited number of seconds? |
| 12:42 | <Snow-Man> | There was a max-time of 5 minutes added for something, iirc. |
| 12:51 | <Conaz> | More incentive for me to get going on my xbox modules code modifications |
| 12:51 | <Conaz> | so I can get back to the fun of playing with myth |
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| 13:23 | <tmk> | you can use the x-box as a myth frontend? |
| 13:23 | <tmk> | intriguing |
| 13:23 | <tmk> | I might have to buy one now :) |
| 13:24 | <GreyFoxx> | TVOut is likely better than most PC video cards I'd imagine |
| 13:24 | <tmk> | yeah probably |
| 13:24 | <GreyFoxx> | We've got 2 sitting here at work from aTradeshow last Dec, I should take one home with me. |
| 13:24 | <tmk> | well i'm inferring from conaz' comment that you can |
| 13:24 | <tmk> | not a guarentee |
| 13:25 | <GreyFoxx> | I'd be interested in trying it out |
| 13:25 | <GreyFoxx> | I finally got around to hooking mine up to a TV last night. The old voodoo3 TVOut is better than I expected :) |
| 13:26 | <GreyFoxx> | But my cheap s3 based laptop still looks better |
| 13:32 | <tmk> | hm |
| 13:33 | <tmk> | y'know |
| 13:33 | <tmk> | the xbox plays dvds |
| 13:33 | <tmk> | so it must have some sort of mpg2 decoder hardware |
| 13:33 | <tmk> | wonder if linux supports it |
| 13:34 | <Conaz> | tmk: yes, the xbox works pretty good as a front end |
| 13:34 | <Conaz> | of course there are folks who have trouble |
| 13:34 | <Conaz> | I'm playing back 480x480 mpeg4 files |
| 13:35 | <Conaz> | I'm not sure of the sound capture settings, I believe just default settings |
| 13:35 | <Conaz> | I was surprised since the xbox only has 64mb memory |
| 13:36 | <Scrye> | i have a dedicated 1.2ghz thunderbird |
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| 13:36 | <tmk> | does it use the nvidia windows drivers? |
| 13:36 | <tmk> | err |
| 13:36 | <tmk> | xwindows |
| 13:36 | <tmk> | so does it haev scaling acceleration and such |
| 13:36 | <Scrye> | actually it does |
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| 13:36 | <tmk> | curious |
| 13:37 | <tmk> | it should be able to do full-res mpg2 then |
| 13:37 | <Scrye> | i have an old ass TNT1 AGP 16mb |
| 13:37 | <tmk> | since it can do DVD playback |
| 13:37 | <Scrye> | oh that xbox? |
| 13:37 | <Scrye> | thought you were asking me |
| 13:37 | <tmk> | hehe non |
| 13:37 | <tmk> | sorry |
| 13:38 | <Conaz> | Yes, I believe that the xbox does use the nvidia drivers |
| 13:38 | <Conaz> | Although I didn't check to see for sure |
| 13:38 | <Conaz> | I just did the standard ed's debian install, and then jumped right into installing myth |
| 13:39 | <Conaz> | Right now I'm hacking away at the xboxir module to get it to work with other remotes (besides the standard xbox remote) |
| 13:39 | <tmk> | so the dvd remote does work? |
| 13:39 | <tmk> | with lirc or what |
| 13:40 | <Conaz> | It is actually a kernel module that interfaces the usb reciever |
| 13:40 | <jkolb> | Did you mod your xbox or use the savegame trick? |
| 13:40 | <Conaz> | It just translates the IR codes into keyboard presses |
| 13:40 | <tmk> | i see |
| 13:40 | <Conaz> | I actually modded my first one with the matrix chip |
| 13:41 | <jkolb> | Difficult to do? |
| 13:41 | <Conaz> | The kernel module is hard-coded for the xbox remote codes, so taht is what I'm working on now |
| 13:41 | <Conaz> | The matrix chip was a bit of a pain, but I think I got a mix of 1.1 and 1.0 parts in my refurb xbox |
| 13:42 | <Conaz> | So there was one contact point where the existing solder which had a little depression in it |
| 13:42 | <Conaz> | So the contacts from the matrix mod chip didn't fully make contact |
| 13:42 | <Conaz> | So I had to fill that in |
| 13:43 | <Conaz> | Once I figured that out as my main alignment problem things went pretty good |
| 13:43 | <Scrye> | I dont see the point of buying an Xbox just to break it |
| 13:43 | <Conaz> | Of course I'm not really a skilled kernel developer, so it is taking me awhile to figure out the ir kernel module |
| 13:44 | <Conaz> | define break? |
| 13:44 | <jkolb> | The box can still be used normally after installing the modchip, can't it? |
| 13:44 | <Conaz> | Yup |
| 13:44 | <Conaz> | The kids still play games on it |
| 13:44 | <Scrye> | I mean people who buy it just to use it for a machine |
| 13:44 | <Scrye> | nothing else |
| 13:45 | <jkolb> | For a Celeron 733 with good TV-Out, it is a cheap box. |
| 13:45 | <Scrye> | you can get cheaper |
| 13:45 | <Scrye> | i found 2U rackmount cases with tv-in with a pvr350 built in for about 200 |
| 13:45 | <Conaz> | Well, I purchased it because it looks like a standard device |
| 13:46 | <Scrye> | s/tv-in/tvout/ |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | heh |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | i don't support tv-out yet |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | hopefully soon-ish |
| 13:46 | <jkolb> | Component tv-out? |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | tv-out on the pvr-350 |
| 13:46 | <tmk> | svideo/composite |
| 13:46 | <jkolb> | That was to Scrye. |
| 13:47 | <tmk> | ya |
| 13:47 | <Scrye> | i didnt look into the boxes that much howeveri do have it bookmarked on another computer |
| 13:47 | <tmk> | scrye's talking bout pvr350, yes? |
| 13:47 | <Scrye> | yeah |
| 13:47 | <tmk> | i'm the guy who's doing the driver for the pvr cards |
| 13:47 | <tmk> | in linux |
| 13:47 | <Conaz> | I'm actually thinking about trying the pundit instead of another xbox, but we'll see |
| 13:47 | <jkolb> | Oh, the tv-out is through the pvr? Then you don't get your regular screen on tv-out. |
| 13:48 | <tmk> | you might be able to |
| 13:48 | <jkolb> | tmk: I know. |
| 13:48 | <tmk> | it remains to be seen |
| 13:48 | <Scrye> | i dont know if the tv-out is through the pvr |
| 13:48 | <Scrye> | i'll go get that URL |
| 13:49 | <jkolb> | er, I know that you're doing the ivtv driver. |
| 13:49 | <tmk> | ok |
| 13:49 | * tmk | butts out |
| 13:49 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 13:50 | <jkolb> | Yeah, and you stay out! Nyah! |
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| 13:50 | <tmk> | ;) |
| 13:50 | <jkolb> | <g> |
| 13:51 | <Scrye> | 1U Aluminum case, EPIA 800, 256 MB, 40 GB low profile Maxtor drive, WIN TV 350 with remote, 12 volt power supply with AC/DC brick and experimental Linux software. Special order-allow 14 days for delivery. Note, this machine is intended to be purchased by Linux developers. |
| 13:51 | <Chutt> | it's nice that they include a processor slow enough to not be able to decode the output of the pvr-350 |
| 13:52 | <Scrye> | http://205.147.44.194/store/commerce.cgi?product=SolarPC |
| 13:52 | <Scrye> | Just thought you guys would like to see that |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:53 | <Scrye> | they have faster motherboards |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | i know |
| 13:53 | <Scrye> | youve seen that before then? |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | even the newest nehemiah stuff is still borderline with large mpeg files |
| 13:53 | <tmk> | okok |
| 13:53 | <tmk> | i'm working on hw decoding |
| 13:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | Chutt: hw decoding first or msp whine |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | whine :p |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | haah |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | i really don't mind not having hw decoding |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | damn |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | ya it's more work for you |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | 480x480 at a 4.5/6 works well on my m10000 |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | looks good on the tv |
| 13:54 | <Scrye> | I have a dxr2 hardware dvd-decoder |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | latest cvs fixes the jittering bug FYI |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | that's only in pal |
| 13:54 | <Chutt> | no? |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | dunno |
| 13:54 | <tmk> | perhaps |
| 13:55 | <tmk> | but if people complain |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | never saw it here |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | i just got an email about the i2c warning in the driver |
| 13:55 | <Chutt> | to the list |
| 13:55 | <tmk> | lovely |
| 13:55 | <jkolb> | Scrye: The cheap systems are missing at least hard drives and power adapters. |
| 13:58 | <Scrye> | yeah i just noticed that too |
| 13:59 | <jkolb> | And XBoxes are down to $180 |
| 13:59 | <Scrye> | Ive got so much crap around here that i dont have to buy harddrives and stuff |
| 13:59 | <jkolb> | Heh. |
| 13:59 | <tmk> | my roommates have an xbox |
| 13:59 | <tmk> | be cool to use that as a frontend |
| 13:59 | <tmk> | i'd have to buy a hackable game though :/ |
| 14:00 | <Scrye> | I just put together my box and the only thing i had to buy was a tvcard |
| 14:00 | <Scrye> | which i got paid for by someone who owed me a tv card |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 14:00 | <Scrye> | tmk : rent one |
| 14:00 | <Conaz> | I got my refurb xbox for $149 |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | i can only rent it for so long |
| 14:00 | <Scrye> | use that online system |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | i'll want to use the xbox for more than a weekend |
| 14:00 | <Scrye> | its a one time hack |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | eh? |
| 14:00 | <tmk> | ooh |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | tell me more |
| 14:01 | <Scrye> | I dont know the full details |
| 14:01 | <Scrye> | but it has somthing to do with an overflow of a save game |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | yeah i saw some stuff bout that |
| 14:01 | <Scrye> | and you just have to savethe game once to the hd |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | didn't think it was permanant |
| 14:01 | <Scrye> | then when you go to reload it it roots the system |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | can you get back to xbox mode? |
| 14:01 | <Scrye> | as far as i know |
| 14:01 | <tmk> | thx |
| 14:02 | <Scrye> | I know its a one-time rental though |
| 14:02 | <Scrye> | after that its second hand knowlege |
| 14:02 | <Scrye> | knowledge |
| 14:03 | <jkolb> | It seems that you get an option to 'run linux' when you go to load a savegame. According to xbox-linux.sf.net. |
| 14:03 | <Scrye> | 007linux exploit (memory stick or swapped hard disk with the hacked savegame and the Xbox-Linux-signed bootloader XBE), and you'll get the Item "Run Linux" when loading a savegame. |
| 14:04 | <Scrye> | seems as though someone hacked a key too |
| 14:04 | <Conaz> | I wonder if you have to load the 007 savegame, or any save game |
| 14:04 | <tmk> | but must you have 007 always |
| 14:04 | <jkolb> | Or Mechassault. |
| 14:06 | <Conaz> | That is what I thought, which is why I purchased the mod-chip, since I want it to always boot to linux first |
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| 14:06 | <Conaz> | Since that will be the primary function |
| 14:09 | <Scrye> | How wide is an xbox? |
| 14:09 | <Scrye> | ugh that is a stupid question i can just look it up |
| 14:09 | <Conaz> | Slightly wider than 2 cdroms side by side :) |
| 14:13 | <Scrye> | I think that the x-box emulator needs some press |
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| 14:37 | <just1nux1> | btw, you can play the mpeg-2 nuv files directly from the xbox if its shared through samba without running linux. xbox media player works just fine...no fancy myth menu of course. |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | they're just mpeg2 files, i didn't bother to change the code that creates the file names for them |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | they're not really .nuv files =) |
| 14:38 | <just1nux1> | yeah, i know that, but you never know if an app will be confused by an incorrect extension. |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | true |
| 14:40 | <Scrye> | my media player wont play .nuv |
| 14:40 | <just1nux1> | no, not true nuv, but you can make them avi's and it'll play them |
| 14:41 | <Scrye> | with a reencoder? |
| 14:42 | <just1nux1> | not really reencoding, just pulling the video and audio out of the nuv container and dropping them into an nuv. which doesnt take much effort. |
| 14:42 | <just1nux1> | i mean avi |
| 14:44 | <just1nux1> | eventually i'll probably get linux on mine, but I've been waiting until someone else got all the kinks worked out and posted a tutorial or something. :) |
| 14:44 | <Scrye> | mplayer .90rc5 has built in support for nuv |
| 14:44 | <Scrye> | excellent. I have .90rc5 |
| 14:45 | <just1nux1> | i think xbox media player actually does support nuv, but (and chutt correct me if im wrong) but myth doesnt use a standard nuv. |
| 14:46 | <just1nux1> | so mplayer needs a patch to play them...unless something has changed recently. |
| 14:48 | <Scrye> | mpcodecs: NUV _en_coding support (mencoder |
| 14:48 | <Scrye> | im looking for the patch... |
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| 14:49 | <Chutt> | scrye, that's the standard nuv format |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | and yeah, i've modified things a bit |
| 14:49 | <Chutt> | made it more flexible, mainly |
| 14:49 | <Scrye> | ok.. can you tell me where this patch is? |
| 14:49 | <Scrye> | im googling for it all i can find is people complaining about it |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | there's a link in the mythtv howto |
| 14:50 | <Chutt> | very first bit of the last section |
| 14:51 | <just1nux1> | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-19.html#ss19.1 |
| 14:51 | <Scrye> | thanks |
| 14:51 | <tmk> | heh you just left it regular mpeg? |
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| 15:33 | <mechou> | Chutt, were you saying earlier that the solarPVR doesn't have enough CPU ommph to decode mpeg (w/pvr350)? What happens exactly, jittery playback & dropped frames? |
| 15:33 | <mechou> | oops meant w/o pvr350 |
| 15:34 | <mdz> | hmm, I wonder why google doesn't find the patch |
| 15:34 | <mdz> | "mplayer mythtv" does find the right section in the HOWTO on the first page of results though |
| 15:36 | <Chutt> | mechou, well, i have a nehemiah-based epia-m -- which, by all benchmarks i've seen, is about twice as fast as a previous via chips used on the epia boards |
| 15:36 | <Chutt> | this is a 1 ghz chip, and it's approximately as fast as a p3-500 that i have |
| 15:37 | <mechou> | hmm, that *is* borderline... |
| 15:37 | <Chutt> | and if _that_ chip is twice as fast as the older variants |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | this is the first one that's been able to play back dvds with any semblance of smoothness, by all accoutns |
| 15:38 | <mechou> | but I thought that platform supposed to have some special (SW) mpeg decoder?.... |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | there's a hardware mpeg decoder that as yet doesn't have linux drivers |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | but, yeah, that would help quite a bit |
| 15:40 | <mechou> | and I guess via is trying to impress somelinux driver dude to erite a driver for it? |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | they've got a driver |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | but it's binary only, unreleased, etc |
| 15:41 | <mechou> | sounds like a pita |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | basically |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | i'd really think it'd be a better option to buy a slower celeron |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | use a micro-atx board or whatnot |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | would just be slightly larger, use slightly more power |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | probably wouldn't be any louder, though |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | when compared to a mini-itx |
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| 15:44 | <mechou> | well, I guess it's still too early to go for EPIA then. |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | thor, nice commit |
| 15:48 | <thor> | =) |
| 16:12 | <bline> | mornin |
| 16:16 | <bline> | awe, Ray didn't respond to me. |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | he sent me the 'finished' faq draft |
| 16:18 | <Chutt> | it's pretty much exactly the same, ignoring my comments |
| 16:21 | <mechou> | ha, that's rich... |
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| 16:56 | <srl> | This is very odd |
| 16:56 | <srl> | If I don't have galaga in my rom directory, mythgame shows most of my roms. If I do put it in the directory, the mame section disappears |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | that is weird |
| 16:56 | <Chutt> | you should figure it out! |
| 16:57 | <srl> | Chutt: heh |
| 16:57 | <srl> | Chutt: Does it leave logs anywhere? :) |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 16:59 | <srl> | I think I'll cry now |
| 16:59 | <Chutt> | bah |
| 17:00 | <Chutt> | you're supposed to be learning how to code :p |
| 17:01 | <srl> | Yeah, I know |
| 17:01 | <srl> | Chutt: But it is probably an xmame problem |
| 17:02 | <Chutt> | it's probably a problem in parsing the output of xmame in mythgame |
| 17:08 | <bigguy> | chutt you ever heard of a gigapro processor? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 17:09 | <bigguy> | neither had I |
| 17:09 | <bigguy> | tigerdirect sent me another sale email |
| 17:09 | <bigguy> | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=k13-1000&SRCCODE=WEM498C |
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| 17:11 | <Peit|Home> | chutt is libavcodec compiled in statically to myth*? |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 17:12 | <tmk> | gigapro eh |
| 17:12 | <tmk> | wonder if that's like the "gigafast switch (10/100mb only)" |
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| 17:48 | <srl> | Chutt: Do you recommend trying cvs? |
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| 18:09 | <Chutt> | srl, yes |
| 18:10 | <srl> | Chutt: Alrighty :) |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | though mythgame hasn't changed at all |
| 18:10 | <LeonIV> | Has requirements changes much from 0.91 to current? |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | no. |
| 18:11 | <LeonIV> | I was able to compile 0.91 just fine but mythepg gives me a buch of undefined reference errors. |
| 18:11 | <LeonIV> | QApplication,QString,etc |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | none of the requirements have changed at all. |
| 18:13 | <LeonIV> | These sound like they might be qt related? |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 18:14 | <LeonIV> | also getting errors like "../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv.a(recordingprofile.o)(.gnu.linkonce.d._ZTV21BoundedIntegerSetting+0x198): undefined reference to `QObject::timerEvent(QTimerEvent*)' |
| 18:16 | <Chutt> | are you compiling mythtv with a different compiler than was used to compile qt? |
| 18:17 | <LeonIV> | no, box hasn't changed since I installed mythtv originally. Other than updating to latest cvs version |
| 18:17 | <Chutt> | ok, so, figure it out |
| 18:17 | <LeonIV> | this is a redhat v7.3. qt was installed using the redhat rpms |
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| 19:19 | <Peit|Home> | anyone seen "strange error flushing buffer ... " before? |
| 19:19 | * Peit|Home | finally has a segfault on mythbackend |
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| 19:26 | <brunes> | hello.. anyone want ot help out a mythtv newb with a performance issue? |
| 19:26 | <tmk> | petit: is that with a pvr card? |
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| 19:27 | <tmk> | the mailing list has a lot to say about that error |
| 19:27 | <tmk> | either way |
| 19:27 | <brunes> | im running myth on an xp 2000 with only 1 tv tuner.. and the audio is still jittery on some channels (but not others ). Also some channels have a HORRIBLE pciture but others do not. any ideas? I do have DMA enabled on all drivers btw |
| 19:28 | <brunes> | another thing... adjusting the encoder setting sin the interface doe snothing.. they dont seem to save. I have to manually adjust them in the database |
| 19:28 | <brunes> | is this a known issue? |
| 19:29 | <vektor> | You're an NTSC user? |
| 19:30 | <brunes> | yes NTSC |
| 19:30 | <vektor> | Maybe your tuner is being misdetected? |
| 19:30 | <brunes> | no the tuner is correct.. i set that up myself |
| 19:30 | <vektor> | You sure? :) |
| 19:30 | <vektor> | I don't trust you :) |
| 19:30 | <brunes> | it all look sfine in mplayer |
| 19:30 | <brunes> | the audio / picture is only jittery in myth |
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| 19:30 | <vektor> | And not using 'canada-cable' or some shit like that? |
| 19:31 | <vektor> | I'm just surprised that the picture+audio might be bad on some channels and not others. |
| 19:31 | <brunes> | no us-cable |
| 19:31 | <vektor> | ok. |
| 19:31 | <brunes> | yeah i fiound it odd too |
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| 19:32 | <brunes> | RE the config settings.. im using 0.91 from the debian packages.. is that a known issue in that version? |
| 19:33 | <brunes> | cause its quite annoying.. im trying to troubleshoot the performance and i need ot manually edit the database to do any changes |
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| 19:51 | <tmk> | brunes: most myth problems like that are due to the audio subsystem |
| 19:51 | <tmk> | make sure your soundcard is happy |
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| 20:00 | <extremis> | ugh, so I take my DVBs (echostar 6000) remote and fire it at a lirc device that I'm monitoring with mode2 and I see pulses |
| 20:00 | <extremis> | but when I do irrecord it can't get more than 1 dot |
| 20:01 | <extremis> | and when I tried to use the community provided lircd.conf files, either by remotes/echostar/DVB or remotes/JVC/* or produced by jvc_raw my 6000 receiver will not recognize any of the commands |
| 20:01 | <extremis> | although I can see the ir commands coming through the use of another ir receiver |
| 20:02 | <extremis> | Does anyone have any advice for me? I posted to the list, but the moderator has yet to sendi t out |
| 20:02 | <extremis> | someone recommended changing the HZ in my kernel |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | the list moderator discards everything |
| 20:03 | <extremis> | but I don't know where/what they are refering to |
| 20:03 | <Chutt> | at least to all the mythtv lists =) |
| 20:03 | <extremis> | Chutt: :) |
| 20:03 | <extremis> | seriously, I've done my homework, but I'm stuck |
| 20:04 | <Chutt> | i've not had any experience with remotes except for those that come with the hauppauge cards |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | srl, do your roms audit clean? |
| 20:07 | <srl> | Chutt: No idea |
| 20:07 | <Chutt> | that would be the first thing to check :p |
| 20:08 | <Chutt> | as stuff does change over the various versions of mame |
| 20:08 | <srl> | Chutt: Maybe neogeo.zip changed or something |
| 20:08 | <mechou> | extremis, maybe you can ask for echostar 6000 advice on remotecentral? |
| 20:09 | <mechou> | ext, what remote receiver are you using? |
| 20:10 | <srl> | Chutt: Why does Galaga remove all the mame stuff though? That is just plain weird |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:11 | <extremis> | mechou: remote receiver? |
| 20:11 | <Chutt> | i'm compiling 0.70.1 right now |
| 20:12 | <srl> | That is what I have |
| 20:12 | <mechou> | yeah, the ir receiver that's attached to your comp.... |
| 20:12 | <extremis> | I have 2, the one I'm using right now is the actisys 200l |
| 20:12 | <mechou> | and the other? |
| 20:12 | <extremis> | just a standard serial ir (rx only) its made by logitech |
| 20:13 | <mechou> | when you sy irrecord only get one pulse, which ir rx are you talking bout? |
| 20:13 | <extremis> | both |
| 20:13 | <extremis> | they behave the same way for rx |
| 20:13 | <extremis> | rather, either |
| 20:14 | <mechou> | I don't have ec 6000, which ir protocol does it use? |
| 20:15 | <extremis> | I'm not sure how ot find that out |
| 20:15 | <mechou> | well, that where remote central comes in handy... |
| 20:16 | <mechou> | the actisys, is it a serial device? |
| 20:16 | <extremis> | oh, yes |
| 20:17 | <extremis> | how do I convert the remotecentral files to lircd.conf files? |
| 20:17 | <extremis> | I could try using their dish6000 file |
| 20:17 | <mechou> | ok, not sure bout this, but earlier I vaguely remeber coming across some info regarding serial settings for ec 6000 |
| 20:18 | <extremis> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=61605;search_string=dish%206000;guest=686903&t=search_engine#61605 |
| 20:18 | <Chutt> | srl, did you re-scan for games? |
| 20:18 | <extremis> | thats the best resource I found so far |
| 20:19 | <extremis> | but it doesn't work for me :/ |
| 20:19 | <srl> | Chutt: Can't if it can't find any mame stuff |
| 20:19 | <Chutt> | true =) |
| 20:22 | <srl> | How can I audit stuff? |
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| 20:22 | <just1nux> | chutt: with the recording profiles, what happens if the profile is set to use HW encoding but the HW encoder isnt free at the time of the record? |
| 20:22 | <extremis> | well, I'm frustrated. My mthtv box is useless until it can tell my receiver to change its channels |
| 20:22 | <mechou> | so what dis jason miller have to say when you emailed him for advice? |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | just1nux, with a pvr-250? |
| 20:23 | <mechou> | s/dis/did |
| 20:23 | <just1nux> | yeah |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | just set it up for the analog card properly |
| 20:23 | <srl> | Chutt: These games run fine if I run them from the command line :( |
| 20:23 | <extremis> | mechou: I have not yet |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | you don't need to set up a recording profile for the pvr card |
| 20:23 | <just1nux> | im thinking ahead...since you will eventually right? |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | it just takes the width/height out, and discards the rest of the profile |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | eventually, i'm going to have to have per-capture card profiles |
| 20:24 | <mechou> | any particular reason, since you've been asking #mythtv for at least the last three days... |
| 20:25 | <just1nux> | and no 'per recording' profile? |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | you can already do per-recording stuff |
| 20:25 | <just1nux> | not for the pvr-250 |
| 20:26 | <mechou> | ext, seems to me you're in a box, maybe ought to get some expert help, if you know what I mean? |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | well, you could change the resolution =) |
| 20:26 | <just1nux> | bah.. |
| 20:26 | <extremis> | mechou: yeah , I just emailed jason |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | i suppose it'll have to be able to check if the recording's profile works with the card, eventually |
| 20:27 | <Chutt> | srl, still compiling :p |
| 20:27 | <srl> | Chutt: Alright :) |
| 20:28 | <just1nux> | ok. thats what i figured. just something i was thinking about. almost need a universal quality setting that just translates itself to whatever recording type is used. |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | maybe like 3 or 4 quality levels could get defined |
| 20:28 | <Chutt> | for each type of card in the system |
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| 20:29 | <just1nux> | that might make more sense, especially for those non-tech people who dont care what type of recording it is, jus that its high low medium quality, etc. |
| 20:31 | <tmk> | Chutt: you haven't implemented any of the bitrate settings yet have you? |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | i don't like the big struct o options |
| 20:31 | <thor> | and no matter what settings you choose, someone will complain that they should be changed ;-) |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | 'specially since you're still changing things around |
| 20:31 | <tmk> | what do you like? individual ioctls? |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:31 | <tmk> | you don't like v4l much then do ya |
| 20:31 | <Chutt> | i went over that on the ivtv list a while back, remember? =) |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | most of it's fine |
| 20:32 | <thor> | and then if you change it so that people can set everything, others will complain it's too complicated |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | and small structs that you're not going to be adding/removing stuff from is also fine |
| 20:32 | <tmk> | the first thing you hvae to set is a big struct |
| 20:32 | <thor> | ;-0 |
| 20:32 | <tmk> | i think the codec stuff is pretty much done |
| 20:32 | <tmk> | only thing that may change is the audio |
| 20:32 | <tmk> | but i've made that all individual ioctls |
| 20:33 | <Chutt> | i haven't looked at any of your recent changes |
| 20:33 | <tmk> | heh, cause of the audio whine? |
| 20:33 | <Chutt> | pretty much |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | ok if i fix it, are we friends again? |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | :P |
| 20:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:34 | <Chutt> | sure, i suppose |
| 20:34 | * tmk | whew |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | someone's been trying to implement the decoder functions |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | not going so well |
| 20:37 | <srl> | Chutt: I bet neogeo.zip got updated |
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| 20:47 | <Chutt> | srl, quite possibly |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, going to check that fix in? |
| 20:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | didn't see the guy replying saying it worked and hadn't had a chance to test myself. |
| 20:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | looks like that would fix it though. |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | looks correct |
| 20:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I'll test real quick and submit if it seems to fix it. |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 20:48 | <srl> | Chutt: Works for you? |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 20:49 | <srl> | wtf |
| 20:49 | <srl> | Chutt: What is the size of your neogeo.zip? |
| 20:50 | <Chutt> | 239231 |
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| 20:50 | <srl> | wow |
| 20:50 | <srl> | Mine is 57734 |
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| 20:57 | <srl> | Chutt: I love how I don't get errors about this |
| 20:57 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:57 | <Chutt> | so, yeah, audit/update your games and stuff |
| 20:57 | <srl> | Chutt: With what tool? |
| 20:57 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 20:58 | <srl> | hehe |
| 20:58 | <srl> | Chutt: What do you use? :) |
| 20:58 | <Chutt> | clrmame |
| 20:58 | <Chutt> | in windows |
| 20:58 | <srl> | oh |
| 20:58 | <srl> | alright |
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| 21:23 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt, bugfix committed to cvs and I'm replying to the email on the list. |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, thanks for findin that =) |
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| 22:27 | <tdb30_> | anyone familiar with lircd? when I try to send commands using rc the first one gives broken pipe and the next run gives socket error and I look and see that lircd is no longer running. any ideas? |
| 22:28 | <thor> | cat /var/log/lircd ? |
| 22:29 | <tdb30_> | lircd(sir) ready |
| 22:29 | <tdb30_> | accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| 22:29 | <tdb30_> | caught signal |
| 22:30 | <tdb30_> | I'm using a serial port transmiter |
| 22:30 | <thor> | does sir sound right? |
| 22:30 | <thor> | lircd(sir) ? |
| 22:30 | <tdb30_> | don't know |
| 22:31 | <thor> | me either (don't know very much about lircd) |
| 22:31 | <thor> | serial port transmitter, receiver, or transceiver ? |
| 22:32 | <tdb30_> | just transmiter |
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| 22:32 | <thor> | hmm ... can't help you there (no idea) ... search the mailing list for IRBlaster? |
| 22:35 | * yebyen | just upgraded to today's cvs |
| 22:35 | <yebyen> | yay |
| 22:39 | <thor> | yebyen, from 0.9.1 ? |
| 22:39 | <yebyen> | from cvs just before 0.9 |
| 22:39 | <thor> | ah, that's fairly major |
| 22:39 | <yebyen> | i noticed the new themes, heh |
| 22:39 | <yebyen> | the new OSD theme |
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| 22:40 | <extremis> | my DVI HDTV shows up saturday... weee |
| 22:40 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:40 | <extremis> | who else here does HDTV over DVI through mythtv? |
| 22:40 | <yebyen> | my Klipsch ProMedia 5.1's show up uhh... monday |
| 22:40 | <yebyen> | according to fedex |
| 22:41 | <yebyen> | but they left california this morning, arrived in indiana by 12:00 |
| 22:41 | <yebyen> | and left indiana at 2:46 |
| 22:41 | <yebyen> | so who knows if they'll deliver them tomorrow instead :) *hopes* |
| 22:41 | <fulbert> | will the HD set take a 720p image from a PC over the DVI in? |
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| 22:42 | <yebyen> | hdtv over dvi through mythtv? |
| 22:42 | <fulbert> | I have heard from several owners they can't get that to work with their newer sets with DVI/HDCP. |
| 22:42 | <yebyen> | that sounds like the order is wrong :) |
| 22:42 | <extremis> | fulbert: yes |
| 22:42 | <thor> | plus you skipped over TCP/IP |
| 22:43 | <extremis> | fulbert: how do I achieve 1080i though? |
| 22:43 | <brunes> | oh btw |
| 22:43 | <brunes> | for anyone who was listning to me4 hrs ago.. |
| 22:43 | <extremis> | howfully there will be no distortion |
| 22:43 | <brunes> | when I switched to MPEG4 the problems went away... |
| 22:43 | <fulbert> | well, to start, most units can display 1080i at full res, unless you are talking about maybe dlp or lcos. |
| 22:43 | <yebyen> | extremis: i have it on like, a 20" set... |
| 22:43 | <yebyen> | hehe |
| 22:44 | <brunes> | so... somehow must have been related to the RTJpeg coded? |
| 22:44 | <yebyen> | it's a piece of crap, but it's a tv |
| 22:44 | <fulbert> | most CRT units can't do full 1920x1080 |
| 22:44 | <extremis> | fulbert: its a rear projection 57" toshiba |
| 22:44 | <extremis> | widescreen 16:9 |
| 22:44 | <fulbert> | yeah, my hitachi only does like 1300 lines. |
| 22:45 | <fulbert> | I only have component in, and no conversion now, so I'm stuck with svideo ntsc. |
| 22:46 | <Timon> | WAY better than me, I only have rf in :-) |
| 22:46 | <fulbert> | heh |
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| 22:48 | <yebyen> | i'm waiting for my list of recordings to fill up again |
| 22:48 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:48 | <yebyen> | i deleted everything (including the database) for the upgrade, mythtv had been behaving oddly |
| 22:48 | <yebyen> | skipping most episodes of voyager because they were "already recorded" |
| 22:50 | <yebyen> | when I had no episodes recorded, heh |
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| 22:58 | <yebyen> | cool, mythbackend crashed |
| 22:58 | <yebyen> | :X |
| 22:59 | <bline> | debug it |
| 22:59 | <yebyen> | i'll recompile with debugging symbols if it does it again |
| 23:00 | <yebyen> | which it probably will, it only took 8 minutes of recording to crash... heh |
| 23:00 | <bline> | be sure and read the web site on how to do the bt if you plan on submitting it to the mailing list |
| 23:01 | <yebyen> | oh, didn't know there was procedure |
| 23:02 | <extremis> | heh, satelite just went out |
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| 23:15 | <yebyen> | well, it's made it through 15 mins of recording and it hasn't crashed yet |
| 23:16 | <FreddieD> | that's good! |
| 23:16 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:16 | <yebyen> | indeed |
| 23:16 | <FreddieD> | my recording is running at 1gig/15 min... |
| 23:16 | <yebyen> | eek |
| 23:16 | <FreddieD> | that's alot |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | use mpeg4 :) |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | you're using rtjpeg, aren't you |
| 23:17 | <FreddieD> | I'm using the hardware encoder on my pvr-250 |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | i know nothing about those :) |
| 23:17 | <FreddieD> | it's cool to see my crap processor run at 1% CPU upon encoding |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | haha |
| 23:17 | <FreddieD> | i pay for it tho when i actually try and watch the damn thing |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | but for 4g/h |
| 23:17 | <yebyen> | that's rough |
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| 23:18 | <yebyen> | what resolution are you using |
| 23:18 | <FreddieD> | yeah it is.. 720x480, 32mHz |
| 23:18 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 23:18 | <fulbert> | lower the bitrate? |
| 23:18 | <yebyen> | isn't tv 640x480? what do you gain from going higher, heh |
| 23:18 | <FreddieD> | im thinking of cutting it down ot 640x480 |
| 23:18 | <FreddieD> | i WAS going at 44.1 heh |
| 23:18 | <fulbert> | I still get ghosting with the 250 at lower than 720x640 |
| 23:18 | <FreddieD> | oh i dunno, am i just wasting CPU and disk by going higher than 640x480? |
| 23:19 | <yebyen> | i think so :) |
| 23:19 | <fulbert> | err, x480 that is |
| 23:19 | <FreddieD> | do you turn off DNR? |
| 23:19 | <fulbert> | I have played with it in many settings, the dnr that is, and I get ghosting at all res other than 720x |
| 23:19 | <yebyen> | wow, my mythbackend.log is huge |
| 23:20 | <yebyen> | 5.1G |
| 23:20 | <FreddieD> | jeez :) |
| 23:20 | <fulbert> | I'm outputting to my HD set, so 720x480 is what I am going to end up using, so it's not that big of a deal. |
| 23:20 | <FreddieD> | hmm i should try 640x480 and see if i get ghosting too |
| 23:20 | <fulbert> | I find that lower makes all the flaws of my analog cable look even worse. |
| 23:20 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: yeah, it fills up quick when you're getting IO errors every instant from your hard drive being full |
| 23:20 | <FreddieD> | yeah i got an 80gig'er, i think im okay unless i want to hold onto an entire season of something |
| 23:21 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: and err, yeah... it was a separate drive that was full :) |
| 23:21 | <FreddieD> | hehe |
| 23:21 | <fulbert> | 2x200GB units, I figure that even at 4GB/hr I'm doing ok. |
| 23:21 | <FreddieD> | yep that's where im sittin atm |
| 23:21 | <yebyen> | wow |
| 23:21 | <yebyen> | 2x200gb |
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| 23:22 | <yebyen> | i've got an 80gb drive, and it would never fill up if it weren't for the fact that I leave month-old recordings on it "in case I want to watch them eventually" |
| 23:22 | <yebyen> | my recordings are 500mb/hr |
| 23:22 | <fulbert> | mpeg4? |
| 23:22 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 23:23 | <yebyen> | 320x480 |
| 23:23 | <fulbert> | I was thinking about transcoding to something other than the mpeg2 form the 250 cards, but I have not set that yet. |
| 23:23 | <yebyen> | at the default bitrate |
| 23:23 | <fulbert> | ah, res helps too. |
| 23:23 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 23:23 | <FreddieD> | what CPU and mem do you guys run |
| 23:23 | <fulbert> | I have a weak CPU, not sure if I want to deal with transcode. |
| 23:23 | <yebyen> | 320x240 double height... heh, in my opinion it looks nicer than just scaling the res up a little higher |
| 23:23 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: 700mhz athlon, 256mb of ram |
| 23:24 | <FreddieD> | that's near what i run |
| 23:24 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: and I have no problems at that resolution mpeg4 (simultaneous play/record) |
| 23:24 | <fulbert> | backend: dual P3 1GHz, 2GB. Frontend: P3 1GHz, 1GB. |
| 23:24 | <FreddieD> | for live TV? |
| 23:24 | <fulbert> | frontend has two 250 cards. |
| 23:24 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: live tv, or actually recording and watching it at the same time |
| 23:24 | <FreddieD> | ah cool |
| 23:24 | <yebyen> | fulbert: you have too much money |
| 23:24 | <FreddieD> | i cant do that yet, i have a KX133 chipset which causes liveTV to tank the box |
| 23:25 | <fulbert> | heh, I shop the spares bin at the office ;-) |
| 23:25 | <FreddieD> | hehe |
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| 23:25 | <FreddieD> | the spares bin at my office is damn Sun equipment |
| 23:25 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: eek :) livetv on mine works fine as long as I pause for a few seconds |
| 23:25 | <fulbert> | heh, I got that too. |
| 23:25 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: it doesn't crash if I get to the end of the buffer, it just skips every so often |
| 23:25 | <fulbert> | my original backend was trying to be a ultra5, but I gave up. |
| 23:26 | <fulbert> | what I need is a case to keep all this cool, I could bake with the exhaust of my frontend machine. |
| 23:26 | <FreddieD> | heh |
| 23:27 | <FreddieD> | do you guys know of a good looking ATX case, one that doesnt obviously look like a computer? :P |
| 23:27 | <FreddieD> | my wife aint too happy about having this thing in the living room |
| 23:27 | <Timon> | FreddieD: She'll get over it |
| 23:27 | <FreddieD> | haha |
| 23:27 | <yebyen> | you need a mini-itx machine that's fast enough to do mpeg2 decoding :) |
| 23:27 | <yebyen> | hehe |
| 23:27 | <FreddieD> | yeah the first time she needs to tape E.R. or something :P |
| 23:27 | <fulbert> | what I plant to use in the end is the coolermaster atc-620 |
| 23:27 | <fulbert> | http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=atc%2D620 |
| 23:28 | <yebyen> | then just do all of your encoding on the backend or something, it should be able to handle it with those beefy shits |
| 23:28 | <FreddieD> | well, i actually have a DXR3 hardware decoder, it's just that mythtv doesnt support hardware decoders yet |
| 23:28 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 23:28 | <yebyen> | that would be a nice addition, yeah |
| 23:28 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:28 | <yussef> | im using alsa, and sound is only outputting to the left channel, is this normal? |
| 23:28 | <FreddieD> | i'd be on EASY street if the DXR3 was supported.. i could run it on a damn commodore 64 i think |
| 23:28 | <yussef> | only to the left channel* |
| 23:29 | <fulbert> | maybe the source is mono? |
| 23:29 | <yussef> | i didnt see anywhere to change that setting |
| 23:29 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: it can't be that much code, :) is it supported under linux? |
| 23:30 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: or the decoder on the pvr-350? i'm considering building a fanless mini-itx machine with a pvr-350, if I can get the hardware decoding |
| 23:30 | <fulbert> | better shot of the case: http://www.coolermasterusa.com/images/products/ATC-620-GX1_L.jpg |
| 23:30 | <fulbert> | guy at office grabbed one, looks nice on the A/V rack. |
| 23:31 | <fulbert> | the white lettering comes off with goof-off we found too ;-) |
| 23:31 | <yussef> | fulbert: is there a mythtv option to use stereo instead of mono? |
| 23:31 | <fulbert> | not that I know. my cable system only provides stereo on some stations, most of the basic cable is recorded in mono I find. |
| 23:32 | <yussef> | ic, but the mono signal is still output from both channels right? |
| 23:32 | <fulbert> | when I playback I believe so, checking. |
| 23:32 | <fulbert> | yes. |
| 23:33 | <yussef> | ic |
| 23:33 | <FreddieD> | yebyen: yeah the DXR3 has a linux driver for it, so i'd imagine the client code wouldnt be bad at all |
| 23:33 | <FreddieD> | that case looks awesome |
| 23:33 | <yebyen> | hmm |
| 23:33 | <yussef> | are you using btaudio direclty? because im routing thru my onboard sound |
| 23:33 | <FreddieD> | too bad it's micro-atx tho |
| 23:33 | <yebyen> | FreddieD: is the PVR-350's built in decoder just a DXR3? |
| 23:34 | <FreddieD> | yebyen: i have no idea, i only have a 250 |
| 23:34 | <yebyen> | oh :) |
| 23:34 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:34 | <Captain_Murdoch> | big issue with the dxr3 is getting the OSD and menus displayed on it. displaying the mpeg2 video would be easy. |
| 23:35 | <fulbert> | yeah, I am going to use a micro board for my production machine I think. Intel D865GLC |
| 23:35 | <fulbert> | slap a celeron in it, pull my nvidia card and both the PVR250s, all should be good. |
| 23:36 | <FreddieD> | Captain_Murdoch: do you think it would be difficult to have everything go out the conventional video, and just route the mpeg2 to the dxr3? |
| 23:36 | <Ripp> | dammit, anyone else get bit by gcc-3.3 last week? I can't get 3.2.3 to compile now! |
| 23:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | FreddieD: I'm not sure if the dxr3 can do overlay. haven't tried it with mine. |
| 23:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | still then you have the problem with the OSD |
| 23:38 | <Captain_Murdoch> | maybe, maybe not. |
| 23:38 | <Ripp> | bah I'm in the wrong d*mn channel again :p |
| 23:39 | <FreddieD> | times like this i really wish i knew C++ |
| 23:39 | <FreddieD> | Ripp: :-) |
| 23:39 | * Ripp | should pay attention more often |
| 23:39 | * Captain_Murdoch | waves his hand and says "This isn't the channel you're looking for" |
| 23:39 | <yussef> | is there some kind of faq for mythtv? i recently setup a box, and have a set or most likely FAQ |
| 23:40 | <Captain_Murdoch> | FAQ info is pretty much all in the howto on the mythtv.org website |
| 23:40 | <yussef> | ok |
| 23:42 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:42 | <yebyen> | so, you don't just want dxr3 support, you want dxr3 support done right |
| 23:42 | <yussef> | how does transcoding work. i have tho mythencode.pl script [tho havent used it yet] does one simply use that script, or are there ways to automate that process from within mythtv? |
| 23:45 | <yebyen> | there are some options in latest cvs, not sure how they work though |
| 23:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | mythmkmovie might be better. search the mailing list for info and a URL for that. not automated within myth though, you have to run the script whenever you want to transcode something. |
| 23:45 | <yebyen> | something about "automatically transcode", not sure where it would get those settings |
| 23:45 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yebyen: I don't think he's talking mpeg2 -> mpeg4 .nuv files. I think he wants .avi or something. |
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| 23:45 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: oh, is that what the automated transcoding does? :) |
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| 23:46 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, transcodes between internal myth formats (ie, mpeg2 or rtjpeg to mpeg4 .nuv) to save space |
| 23:47 | <yebyen> | for all of those people whose processor is fast enough to encode rtjpeg but not mpeg4? |
| 23:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | for people with slow backends using rtjpeg or people wanting to convert pvr-250 or dvb mpeg2 recordings to mpeg4. |
| 23:47 | <yebyen> | lol, i thought rtjpeg was more cpu intensive... |
| 23:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | during playback I think yes. |
| 23:47 | <fulbert> | or to save space. |
| 23:47 | <yebyen> | Captain_Murdoch: oh, now it makes sense :) |
| 23:47 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 23:50 | <srl> | yebyen: Now you are in here too? |
| 23:50 | <yebyen> | srl: i've been in here forever |
| 23:50 | <yebyen> | srl: i just idle :) |
| 23:53 | <yebyen> | i've been a user since uhh |
| 23:53 | <yebyen> | a while ago |
| 23:53 | <yebyen> | 0.5? |
| 23:53 | <yebyen> | oh, the Preview Releases |
