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01:03<Captain_Murdoch>cool, I've got popup GUI to turn ON/OFF autoexpire for recorded programs and checkbox on advanced recording screen for scheduled recordings.
01:05<bline>Is anyone working on better support for multiple tuner cards?
01:06<bline>A way to correspond a card profile with a recording profile
01:06<Chutt>ah, not to my knowledge
01:06<Chutt>be easy to do, though
01:06<bline>The encoding options make it a little tricky
01:07<Chutt>just need to add a couple fields for a profile names in the capturecard table
01:08<bline>I was thinking a pulldown in the encoder profile with "Free card", "Free Hardware encoder card", "Free software card" and then the names of the card profiles
01:09<Chutt>too complicated.
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01:09<bline>it wouldn't be if it weren't for the encoder options on the next screen :)
01:10<monkeyBox>Is it possible to cycle through visualizations in Mythmusic?
01:10<Chutt>read the docs.
01:10<monkeyBox>Chutt: me?
01:10<Chutt>yes, you
01:11<bline>I think I may look into hacking at this
01:11<monkeyBox>Chutt: I've gone through and can't find anything on keybindings
01:11<monkeyBox>is it in the source tree?
01:11<Chutt>yes, though mythmusic might not be fully updated in there.
01:11<Chutt>also, your segfault's in libavcodec.
01:11<Chutt>nothing i can do about that, really.
01:13<monkeyBox>Chutt: why would that have changed when I went from 0.9 to 0.10 ?
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01:13<Chutt>because libavcodec changes?
01:13<monkeyBox>hmm.. so is there anything I can do about it??
01:13<Chutt>learn how to use gdb?
01:14<monkeyBox>well, I used GDB as it said in the docs on the website...
01:15<Chutt>speaking of that
01:15<Chutt>why did you cut off the beginning of the output of mythfrontend?
01:16<monkeyBox>well it was all normal stuff that it always said (or so I thought)... I can get the full output if you'd like
01:16<Chutt>if you have no idea how to debug a problem, how can you decide what's useful or not?
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01:16<Chutt>more information is always better.
01:16<monkeyBox>ok, I'll reply to my msg...
01:17<Chutt>don't bother.
01:17<monkeyBox>heh 2 late ;)
01:18<Chutt>why am i surrounded by dumbasses
01:18<monkeyBox>Chutt: sorry man, I'm not a programmer... You're the one who asked for more info
01:18<Chutt>why are you using CVS if you're not a programmer?
01:19<Chutt>if you really want to do something
01:19<Chutt>find the 'get_buffer() failed (stride changed)' error message in libavcodec
01:19<Chutt>and figure out why it's being triggered.
01:19<Chutt>fixing that will fix your problem
01:21<monkeyBox>heh.. I may be better off just switching back to my prev. installation (or just not use CVS)...
01:22<Chutt>way to help out
01:22<monkeyBox>Chutt: like I said I'm not a programmer.. I really have no clue what libavcodec even is
01:22<Chutt>adding a printf to see why an if statement is being triggered isn't exactly complicated
01:22<Chutt>any moron can do that.
01:23<Chutt>you know how to use grep, right?
01:23<Chutt>so you can find where the error message is
01:23<monkeyBox>ok so the error msg will be in the mythtv src?
01:23<monkeyBox>ok I'll give it a shot...
01:23<Chutt>thank you
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01:26<Chutt>find the error message?
01:26<Chutt>all you have to do is add a printf("%d %d %d %d\n
01:26<Chutt>printf("%d %d %d %d\n", s->linesize, pic->linesize[0], s->uvlinesize, pic->linesize[1]);
01:26<Chutt>right after it
01:26<Chutt>then recompile, install, etc
01:27<Chutt>and see what it says
01:27<Chutt>if you see the if statement right above that
01:27<Chutt>all you're doing is printing out each of the values that it's looking at
01:28<monkeyBox>ok I'll give it a whirl.. thanks for taking the time to help out
01:28<Chutt>oh, you're not done yet :p
01:28<Chutt>i'll need the output of that line once it dies with that error
01:28<Chutt>dies immediately, i imagine?
01:29<monkeyBox>ok.. I'll be back when I get the msg
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01:45<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt, if I add a couple columns to toggle auto-expire in the record and recorded tables, I change DBSchemaVer from 1000 to 1001 or what?
01:45<Chutt>that's what you do
01:45<Chutt>don't forget to change it in mythcontext.h as well
01:45<Chutt>oh, can you wipe out cvs.sql?
01:45<Captain_Murdoch>does it matter if it's 1001 or is there some format?
01:45<Chutt>if you're messin with that stuff
01:46<Chutt>just something higher than 1000
01:46<Captain_Murdoch>I was thinking about committing my commercial skip changes and this autoexpire stuff tomorrow or Saturday after some more testing.
01:47<Captain_Murdoch>got the gui stuff working in less than an hour tonight. a popup if you hit 'I' on the playbackbox screen and added a checkbox to the advanced recording options screen.
01:48<monkeyBox>Chutt: ok I got the output... after it prints the error msg it prints this: "688 680 344 340"
01:48<monkeyBox>no idea what that means :p
01:48<Chutt>that helps a bit
01:48<Captain_Murdoch>only thing I need to test really is making sure that the autoexpire setting from the record table get propagated to the recorded table when something is recorded.
01:48<Chutt>monkeybox, it dies immediately?
01:50<monkeyBox>Chutt: yeah, pretty much ... after I click "watch tv" it goes black and then dies
01:51<Chutt>monkeybox, how big is the ringbuf file it created?
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01:51<monkeyBox>where does it keep the ringbuf file? in the same place as recorded shows (where I have it configured)?
01:52<monkeyBox>ok, well right now I only see 2 files for shows I have recorded
01:52<monkeyBox>the .nuv files, right?
01:53<Chutt>you should have a ringbuf<number>.nuv file
01:53<Chutt>did you set the live tv buffer directory to be something different than the recorded show directory?
01:53<monkeyBox>hmm. maybe.. lemme check
01:55<monkeyBox>nope same place
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01:58<Chutt>anyway, i'd like to get that file.
01:58<Chutt>should be relatively small.
01:58<monkeyBox>I don't think it's making the file... the only .nuv files in there are dated Jun 30
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01:59<Chutt>it has to be making that file
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02:01<monkeyBox>would it delete the file when it segfaults??
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02:02<monkeyBox>strange.. it's just not there.
02:03<Chutt>any messages on the backend?
02:04<monkeyBox>2003-07-04 01:03:56 adding: monkeybox as a player 1
02:04<monkeyBox>2003-07-04 01:03:57 adding: monkeybox as a player 0
02:04<monkeyBox>2003-07-04 01:03:57 adding: monkeybox as a player 0
02:04<monkeyBox>2003-07-04 01:03:57 adding: monkeybox as a remote ringbuffer
02:04<monkeyBox>Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
02:04<monkeyBox>Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
02:04<monkeyBox>Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
02:05<monkeyBox>accidentally pasted that 2nd-to-last line twice
02:05<Chutt>the backend is deleting the file when the frontend dies
02:06<Chutt>go into libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp and comment out the only unlink() in there
02:06<Chutt>make sure to remove that comment after you've got a file
02:08<bline>does the transcode stuff work corrently Chutt?
02:09<Chutt>i have no idea
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02:19<Chutt>monkeyBox, anything?
02:21<monkeyBox>Chutt: still compiling :p I accidently did a make clean by force of habit
02:24<monkeyBox>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1310720 Jul 4 01:24 ringbuf1.nuv
02:25<Chutt>put that somewhere i can download it, if you don't mind
02:25<monkeyBox>ok just a sec..
02:28<Chutt>did you change any of the ivtv driver settings?
02:31<monkeyBox>I did test_ioctl --set-codec-params=dnr_mode=0,dnr_temporal=0
02:32<monkeyBox>not sure... just a sec..
02:32<Chutt>change it to 640x480
02:32<Chutt>and i guarantee that it'll work.
02:33<monkeyBox>ok I'll try it
02:35<monkeyBox>ooohh.. does myth tv now set the resolution for ivtv drivers??
02:35<Chutt>it always has
02:36<Chutt>libavcodec doesn't like having a width that's not dividable by 16
02:36<monkeyBox>oh ok... I've been doing it through test_ioctl... I was under the impression that it didn't..
02:36<monkeyBox>that explains the segfault ;)
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02:38<monkeyBox>I'll be damned..
02:38<Chutt>i can work around that by making it slightly slower
02:38<Chutt>no direct rendering
02:40<monkeyBox>I've gotta say this is one freaking amazing app you've got here
02:41<monkeyBox>just showed it to my brother who was thinking about bying a tivo... now he's got second thoughts :)
02:41<Chutt>current cvs will no longer die if you give it a mpeg2 file that's not a good width
02:41<Chutt>and it's only slower for those files
02:42<Chutt>oh well
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03:15<bline>Chutt: you still around?
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09:18<mdz_>Chutt: heh, I built debs with debugging symbols for woody
09:18<mdz_>Chutt: mythtv-frontend Installed-Size: 72064
09:19<mdz_>15M just for the deb
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10:13<mechou>extremis, you there?
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11:15<Chutt>mdz, my space free on /usr is really tight at times, and i've filled it up occasionally by doing debug builds =)
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12:55<sfr>ahbritto: hi!
12:56<sfr>you mentioned the howto to me yesterday, remember? regarding mythfilldatabase ignoring certain channels
12:57<ahbritto>Did you work it out?
12:57<sfr>yes, but my problem is, the dir .mythtv/channels is empty.
12:58<ahbritto>I only have images in that directory. Why is that a problem?
12:58<sfr>ah, note that i don't use a xmltv grabber, but nxtvepg
12:59<sfr>b/c in the howto it mentions to add a # in the xmltv config file which should sit in .mythtv/channels
13:00<ahbritto>Perhaps you should look at the source for mythfilldatabase/
13:01<sfr>from the howto 19.9: comment out the channel from the /.mythtv/<sourcename>.xmltv file by inserting a "#" in front of the unwanted entry
13:01<ahbritto>Well, directories don't have comments.
13:02<sfr>sorry, minor mistake, the howto refers to .mythtv only, but it's also empty.
13:03<ahbritto>I have no idea how mythfilldatabase would invoke other than xmltv. Perhaps you should look at the source for mythfilldatabase.
13:04<sfr>let me explain: nxtvepg exports channel data to a xmltv compatible file and i import this file via mythfilldatabase
13:05<sfr>ok, will give a look to the source
13:06<ahbritto>I only ran xmltv to generate the config file. mythfilldatabase must be invoking xmltv. I don't see how you will use something in its place without modifing it or a config file.
13:08<ahbritto>sfr: Perhaps you could rename nxtvepg to xmltv.
13:08<sfr>Ah! now i got it: the howto refers to a config file created by tv_grab_XYZ . And to avoid certain channels it relies on a 'feature' of xmltv. Got it!
13:08<sfr>it = mythfilldatabase
13:10<sfr>renaming nxtvepg won't work as it's fetching the channel _on-air_ via vbi (well some kind of its called nextview in europe)
13:12<ahbritto>Doesn't seem very xmltv compatible.
13:12<sfr>the program itself not for sure. but the xml file nxtvepg will export its channel info to.
13:13<ahbritto>Sounds like you have a lot of work to do.
13:15<sfr>it's ok now :-), just need to look at nxtvepg more closely, it has many options, as there are several channels transmitting different sets of program information
13:16<ahbritto>So, you will write a script named xmltv to cat the information retrieved by nxtvepg?
13:17<sfr>no not needed, mythfilldatabase can import from a file, all i do is export the program information from nxtvepg into such a file (nxtvepg supports xmltv's file format)
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13:58<extremis>mechou: alive?
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14:12<extremis>Does anyone want to buy a mythtv server? Its an abit kd7 + amd 2800+ + geforce4 + haupaugge 250 + avertv tuner + DVB tuner (technotrend) + 200gig hd + 512MB RAM in an ultraquiet antec case that has also been modified (I added dynomat) + logitec ir rx + actisys 200l + broken homebrew ir
14:16<FreddieD>I'll pay $5
14:16<FreddieD>plus shipping!
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14:19<rkulagow_>hey. chutt, are you here?
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14:23<extremis>is the hauppauge ir equiped to tx?
14:27<extremis>FreedieD: ok, I'm tired of it. How do you want me to ship it?
14:27<sfr>extremis: hey wait! you will sell for $5. So i'll pay $7 then.
14:31<extremis>why in the fuck do you have to be a fucking electrical engineer to use this fucking piece of shit?
14:32<FreddieD>extremis: UPS ground is sufficient
14:32<extremis>what is your address
14:33<FreddieD>You are serious?
14:34<extremis>I can't use it, I've been dicking with lirc for the past 2 weeks, and there is little to no support. I'm tired of it. Its not worth my time or money any more.
14:34<extremis>I'm quite serious
14:34<extremis>actually at this point you will have to come pick it up
14:34<creepy>I give $10 :)
14:34<extremis>because its not worht my time to ship it
14:34<FreddieD>where do you live?
14:35<FreddieD>egads... a trifle far from me :P
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14:35<FreddieD>he sounds bitter
14:35<sfr>extremis: you're trying to build a receiver or transmitter or both?
14:36<ahbritto>well,this seems like a poor place for lirc support. He sould find a lirc channel.
14:36<FreddieD>or the mailing list
14:36<FreddieD>if he has a pvr-250, there's all the info he needs for lirc on those mailing lists
14:36<sfr>hm, built a receiver myself a few weeks ago, works like charm. maybe i shouldn't mention that in fact i'm a EE :-).
14:37<FreddieD>i envy EE's any time i want to build something cool myself, and I see a big ol schematic
14:37<FreddieD>I think... "Ahhhhhhhhhhh too many triangles and squiggly lines!!"
14:38<FreddieD>I just need to buy the book "Squiggly Lines For Dummies"
14:45<Scrye>basic electronic assembly isn't that difficult to pick up
14:45<Scrye>->- thats a diode
14:46<Scrye>-|>< that is a really crude transistor
14:46<sfr>hm, looks like a punk with a beard to me
14:47<Scrye>---/\/\/\/\/--- is a resistor
14:50<FreddieD>So where do you buy these parts, radio shack?
14:56<Scrye>if you want to pay too much
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15:01<YamahaBre>hey has neone tried to use a voodoo 3 3500 card with mythtv?
15:01<YamahaBre>i was wondering if i could use that
15:04<Chutt>rkulagow, i really need the other threads in that backtrace to be fleshed out :(
15:05<Chutt>it's probably something simple, but i can't tell without a more complete backtrace
15:05<Chutt>i'll see if i can reproduce it, though
15:05<vektor>YamahaBre: You mean as a capture card?
15:06<vektor>YamahaBre: The voodoo3 3500 TV input drivers don't support capture.
15:06<YamahaBre>it has tv in on it so i assued==
15:06<vektor>they're very crappy and haven't been worked on since 2000.
15:06<vektor>the driver is the problem, not the card.
15:06<YamahaBre>awww damn.
15:06<vektor>specs are available
15:06<vektor>if you want to implement it
15:06<vektor>but nobody ha.
15:06<Chutt>vektor, i like how the ioctls are partially there in that driver, but completely commented out
15:06<vektor>Chutt: yeah, it's hilarious :)
15:07<YamahaBre>well what would i do to hook my comp to the tv
15:07<Chutt>buy a cheap wintv card
15:07<YamahaBre>a vga adaoter?
15:07<vektor>oh wait
15:07<YamahaBre>damn kb
15:07<YamahaBre>its a pos
15:07<vektor>you're talking about tv out or tv in?
15:07<YamahaBre>well tv in a haug
15:07<YamahaBre>and tv out
15:07<YamahaBre>what do i use for tv out
15:07<YamahaBre>a vga adapter or what
15:07<Chutt>a video card with a tv out
15:07<Chutt>most people use nvidia cards
15:08<srl>Chutt: A cheap nvidia?
15:08<Chutt>since they're supported with absolutely no work
15:08<YamahaBre>and one more question...
15:09<YamahaBre>my hughes receiver has a phone line data port instead of a serial... but there is a seperate one for the phone line so...
15:09<Chutt>that's beyond the scope of mythtv
15:09<Chutt>all mythtv cares about is if you have a program that can change channels on it
15:09<Chutt>it's up to you to get that working with your hardware
15:10<vektor>Chutt: so, do you have a nice xcf or png of the mythtv logo?
15:10<vektor>for my links page?
15:10<Chutt>lemme look
15:10<srl>Yeah, I think I need a bigger HD :(
15:10<Chutt>i've got a pretty decent quality jpg
15:11<vektor>Chutt: ok
15:11<YamahaBre>so can i hook just video in from my sat receiver and just tell it to record like on chan 3 and change channels on the reciever?
15:11<Chutt>i've got a .png without the blue background
15:11<Chutt>yamahabre, assuming you've got a program that makes the receiver change channels, yes
15:11<Chutt>err, wait
15:11<Chutt>sorry, i misread you
15:12<vektor>Chutt: thanks.
15:12<Chutt>yes, you could do that
15:12<YamahaBre>alright thanks
15:12<YamahaBre>ill quit bothering u
15:12<YamahaBre>later man
15:12<Chutt>but that's really defeating the point
15:13<Chutt>is what's used _in_ the program, layered on top of the background graphics
15:13<Chutt>first one's probably better
15:13<vektor>it is
15:13<vektor>you'll see, justasec
15:16<vektor>there, on the left :)
15:17<vektor>i'm pretty happy with my 'new site'. turning into a web developer, i am.
15:17<Chutt>your new site looks nicer
15:17<Chutt>seems to load faster, too, but that's probably due to the smaller image =)
15:17<vektor>i need a better screenshot on the main page, and then things will rock.
15:18<Chutt>have you done anything with that vsync.[ch] stuff in your source tree?
15:18<vektor>no, i've had bigger fish to fry :)
15:18<vektor>what would you like me to do?
15:19<Chutt>nothing -- we've been using it in mythtv
15:19<Chutt>works _really_ well on nvidia cards =)
15:19<vektor>yeah :)
15:19<vektor>to do what, exactly?
15:19<vektor>like, what were you using it for?
15:19<Chutt>instead of sleeping in the display loop
15:19<Chutt>replacement for that, essentially
15:19<vektor>oh like, to show the next frame?
15:20<vektor>bet that helps judder a bit
15:20<vektor>although you can do some more fancy logic i bet
15:20<Chutt>nice and smooth
15:20<Chutt>well, we are
15:20<vektor>oh ok
15:20<vektor>i'd love to see that
15:20<Chutt>gotta drop/add frames and stuff as necessary
15:20<Chutt>i didn't write most of that code, though =)
15:20<vektor>who did?
15:20<Chutt>'Bruce Markey'
15:20<vektor>heh, ok
15:20<Chutt>random mythtv developer
15:20<Chutt>doesn't irc
15:21<vektor>i'll take a look for the code anyway.
15:21<vektor>maybe it will help me out.
15:22<Chutt>but, it's nice to have text crawlers be absolutely smooth
15:22<vektor>they are?
15:22<vektor>30fps though, right?
15:22<vektor>not 60fps?
15:22<Chutt>though, i've been pondering looking at that xine plugin
15:23<Chutt>that you mentioned
15:23<Chutt>since that should be relatively easy to plug in
15:23<vektor>but slow :)
15:23<vektor>we can improve it.
15:23<Chutt>play at all with your pvr-250?
15:23<vektor>not yet.
15:23<vektor>that will help alot too.
15:24<vektor>i mean, playing with it will force me to speed up their 4:2:0 -> 4:2:2 conversion
15:24<Chutt>that'd be nice =)
15:24<vektor>should i do that tonight, maybe?
15:24<vektor>mmm, 4th of july
15:24<Chutt>oh, no rush for me
15:25<vektor>darn :)
15:25* vektorneeds pushin'
15:25<Chutt>i've got other stuff to do before i start messing with display code again
15:25<vektor>i need to finish this v4l2 bullshit.
15:25<vektor>i now stop streaming on input and channel change.
15:25<Chutt>how long's it take?
15:25<vektor>to see how slow it is.
15:25<vektor>well, i think it's noticably slower.
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15:25<Chutt>see, that really doesn't fit into mythtv's architecture :(
15:25<vektor>but i'm going to fix it up a little more.
15:25<vektor>yeah, i know.
15:26<Chutt>i guess i could stop/restart things
15:26<Chutt>i dunno
15:26<Chutt>it's damn silly
15:26<vektor>it is.
15:26<vektor>but i figure i should at least try it out before saying it's silly.
15:26<vektor>i'm considering taking home a wheel mouse and doing the wheel test
15:26<vektor>(i.e., is channel changing on the wheel unresponsive)
15:27<Chutt>i ignore the mouse
15:27<vektor>oh, is it a pain to do pvr-250 lirc?
15:27<vektor>i feel like setting that up
15:27<vektor>ok coool
15:27<Chutt>just have to use cvs lirc
15:27<vektor>in debian?
15:27<Chutt>i don't think it's in debian
15:27<creepy>it isn't
15:27<vektor>ah well, shouldn't be hard.
15:28<Chutt>all you need from cvs is the lirc_i2c file, anyway
15:28<Chutt>one .c file copied over to the existing distrib that's in debian
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15:41<YamahaBrez>is that what i need
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15:58<rkulagow__>chutt: i'm going to see about compiling gdb from source since the mandrake cooker version seems so fubar'ed. (latest version re-introduces the need to handle SIG32)
15:58<Chutt>try cvs gdb
15:58<Chutt>that's what debian uses
16:01<Chutt>i haven't compiled gdb from sources in a very long time, but i don't remember it taking much effort to get it working
16:02<rkulagow__>yeah, i've just drilled down from and found it. we'll see how it goes.
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16:39<brunes>Chutt: you around?
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17:05<justin>those M-10000 thingies look like fun toys
17:05<justin>almost as small a as pc104, but more useful
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17:23<YamahaBrez>if u want to see something funnny
17:23<YamahaBrez>that is funny as hell
17:23<YamahaBrez>sorry to get off topic, but its really funny
17:24<bigguy>YamahaBrez: how big is it?
17:24<YamahaBrez>no clue
17:24<bigguy>wanna know if it's even worth me trying
17:24<YamahaBrez>its not that long
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18:26<brunes>anyone here know anything about resampling audio with libavcodec?
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19:07<fulbert>upgrading from a CVS build from 6/29 I ran the 0.9 to .10 mysql update...
19:07<fulbert>but I get this ERROR 1060 at line 16: Duplicate column name 'category_type'
19:08<fulbert>is that OK?
19:08<Chutt>why would you run the 0.9 to 0.10 update when you weren't running 0.9?
19:08<fulbert>... ;-)
19:08<fulbert>cause I don't know no better hehe
19:08<Chutt>just thought 'hey, i'll do something stupid and break things'
19:09<fulbert>I did backup the db before I ran it, time to restore that then?
19:09<Chutt>should be fine if you just run cvs.sql on it
19:09<fulbert>ERROR 1060 at line 23: Duplicate column name 'rank'
19:10<Chutt>that's fine.
19:10<fulbert>coo, thanks.
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19:13<sfr>Chutt: you cloned yourself?
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19:25<fulbert>should I clear the channel listings with the setup app? I was using xmltv 0.5.12.
19:26<brunes>Chutt2: Would you be able to point me to where to look into this resampling issue?
19:26<brunes>my wLAN / router keeps dying
19:26<brunes>Chutt2: Would you be able to point me to where to look into this resampling issue?
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20:04<vektor>Chutt2: is there anything i need to know about mute and v4l2?
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21:08<dopez>hehe, running mythbackend a whole week with gdb without a crash, running it 30 minutes without, and guess what...
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22:17<dopez>i've got a backtrace of a segfault when starting mythbackend, it seems pretty random (its the first time ive seen the backend segfault when starting, and ran without problems after starting it again), but if intrested , its at
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