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| 01:06 | <Guest9040> | anyone home? |
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| 01:21 | <yebyen> | who would win in a fight |
| 01:21 | <yebyen> | captain morgan or captain kirk |
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| 04:37 | <Guest9040> | hello, anyone awake? |
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| 08:44 | <creepy> | re sfr |
| 08:44 | <sfr> | hi |
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| 10:35 | <YamahaBrez> | ?? |
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| 11:18 | <TheAsp> | Is there a current bug where programs arnt getting put into the recorded table? |
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| 11:22 | <Chutt> | theasp, no |
| 11:23 | <sfr> | Chutt: re 'mythbackend crash' on the dev-list: what about this message: 2003-07-05 14:59:06 unknown command: ??ERY_RECORDER |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | that says that you've got bad ram |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | most likely |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | it still didn't crash, though |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | so, don't report it as one |
| 11:25 | <sfr> | b/c of the ?? marks ? |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | yes |
| 11:26 | <sfr> | sorry for that, so i got this message a few times, always looks the same, and mythbackend has quit after that. |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | something is corrupting messages between the frontend and backend |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | the most likely thing that is is hardware related |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | since it would be happening to many more people if not |
| 11:29 | <TheAsp> | i wonder what i fucked up now... |
| 11:36 | <TheAsp> | ahh, found it |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | what'd you do? |
| 11:40 | <TheAsp> | was missing "%9" on the insert query :) |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 11:46 | <stealthboy> | hey, i'm having an issue with mplayer hanging in mythvideo. if i try to run the command in an xterm, it works fine. mythvideo starts mplayer, but mplayer hangs after initializing all the lirc stuff (never gets to loading the video file). Any thoughts? |
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| 12:15 | <Ripp> | is cvs ok to use atm? need to upgrade today from a pre-.9 cvs... |
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| 12:59 | <Chutt> | ripp, sure |
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| 13:09 | <Ripp> | k, thx... |
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| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | how do i say search for something like |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | so if i typed yamaha |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | it would find yamahabrez |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | in a mysql query |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | ah shit |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | wrong room |
| 13:26 | <YamahaBrez> | hehe |
| 13:44 | <TheAsp> | foo like 'yam%' |
| 13:44 | <TheAsp> | :) |
| 13:46 | <YamahaBrez> | hehe thanks |
| 13:46 | * YamahaBrez | does writes php in free time.... erg. |
| 13:46 | <YamahaBrez> | damn that didnt make since neways |
| 13:46 | <YamahaBrez> | im out |
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| 15:08 | <just1nux> | is there any tutorial anywhere for getting lirc to work for sending and recieving both at the same time. Ive seen several posts on the list but they didnt help much. This is just driving me insane. |
| 15:09 | <root> | I'm getting close to getting it to work |
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| 18:31 | * fulbert | is away - ?!?! - messages will be saved. |
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| 18:40 | <Guest9040> | Greetings |
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| 19:03 | <Guest9040> | for some odd reason, when I look at my channel listings either with mythfrontend or the web interface I am seeing double, each channel is listed twice in a row.. how on earth did I manage that? any ideas? |
| 19:03 | <mikegrb> | most likely you accidently set up more then one source |
| 19:03 | <mikegrb> | I had this problem |
| 19:03 | <Guest9040> | oh |
| 19:04 | <Guest9040> | let me go back into ./setup |
| 19:04 | <Guest9040> | brb |
| 19:04 | <mikegrb> | no prob |
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| 19:39 | <kc8apf> | I take it no work has been done in porting to ppc? |
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| 20:13 | <jkolb> | Chutt: Around? |
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| 20:25 | <bbeattie> | Is there API documentation for how mythtv does it's recording? |
| 20:30 | <mikegrb> | I don't believe so |
| 20:30 | <mikegrb> | your best bet would be looking at coments |
| 20:30 | <mikegrb> | I've found the comments in the code to be pretty good |
| 20:36 | <bbeattie> | will do, but quick question first. |
| 20:37 | <mikegrb> | I will answer if I can |
| 20:37 | <mikegrb> | no promises ;-) |
| 20:37 | <bbeattie> | Mythtv does not currently support executing a command, rather then using the internal recording, and in that same aspect, has anyone tested the internal player with running a 1080i ATSC file? |
| 20:38 | <mikegrb> | hmm |
| 20:38 | <mikegrb> | I don't remember seeing anything on the lists but you might try searching the archive at gossamar threads |
| 20:39 | <mikegrb> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/archive/MythTV_C2/ |
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| 20:43 | <bbeattie> | Is the nuv file format is also proprietary to mythtv? Can mythtv's native frontend play a standard mpeg2 stream? |
| 20:44 | <mikegrb> | the nuv format it self isn't proprietary but it has been modified a bit for use in mythtv |
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| 20:50 | <jpauley> | I know your web page says that you cannot use an ATI All-In-Wonder card -- has there been any new updates on this> |
| 20:50 | <jpauley> | ? |
| 20:51 | <mikegrb> | no |
| 20:51 | <bbeattie> | jpauley: don't think so, otherwise it would have been posted :-/ |
| 20:51 | <bbeattie> | mikegrb: was mythtv's player built from scratch, or built from something else? |
| 20:51 | <jpauley> | crap, I have all the other requirements and would hate to get rid of my all in wonder |
| 20:51 | <bigguy> | if you want the ati aiw cards to work you need to talk to the gatos people |
| 20:51 | <bigguy> | they are the ones that suck the booty |
| 20:52 | <mikegrb> | I believe there r linux drivers but they are not compatible with the normal video for linux |
| 20:52 | <mikegrb> | + stuff |
| 20:52 | <bigguy> | mikegrb: the gatos people wrote the "driver" and it's not v4l compliant |
| 20:53 | <mikegrb> | bbeattie: I think so |
| 20:53 | <bigguy> | mikegrb: only thing that works with it is the gatos on graber |
| 20:53 | <mikegrb> | bigguy: that's what I was thinking |
| 20:53 | <bigguy> | own even |
| 20:58 | <bbeattie> | I'd like everyone to answer a hypothetical question for me. If there was a HDTV tuner card and driver for linux, and cards were about $200, how many people would want one, and use it in mythtv, and how many cards per system would they buy? |
| 20:58 | <mikegrb> | I would |
| 20:58 | <just1nux> | me too |
| 20:58 | <mikegrb> | not now though, moving to greece |
| 20:58 | <bbeattie> | just 1 per system? |
| 20:59 | <mikegrb> | at $200 probably just one and then another in 4-6 months when I could convince the wife again |
| 20:59 | <bbeattie> | mikegrb: what if the cards were $150? |
| 20:59 | <mikegrb> | I only just got my wife to let me get a bigger hard dr |
| 20:59 | <mikegrb> | + ive |
| 21:00 | <mikegrb> | that would probably shorten it to two consecutive months |
| 21:00 | <mikegrb> | maybe I could convince her to let me get them both at once at that price |
| 21:01 | <bbeattie> | alright. So how hard would it be to add support to a hypothetical card that required a command line to start pulling an ATSC stream from the card, and get mythtv to display it? (The command would just take 1 of the 3 formats in the ATSC stream and save that to disk) ... ? |
| 21:01 | <bbeattie> | support for a hypothetical card, |
| 21:02 | <bbeattie> | bascailly, what would it take to get mythtv to support that type of card? |
| 21:02 | <mikegrb> | a patch |
| 21:02 | <mikegrb> | <grin> |
| 21:02 | <bbeattie> | :-) How big of a patch? |
| 21:03 | <mikegrb> | I don't know a great deal about that part of the code but I wouldn't think it would have to be that large, mainly the playback stuff |
| 21:04 | <bbeattie> | hmm, I wonder if anyone who's very knowledgeable of mythtv's code knows how difficult it would be add this support. |
| 21:04 | <ahbritto> | bbeattie: The wintv pvr-d is a hypothetical atsc card. |
| 21:05 | <ahbritto> | actually just "wintv-d" |
| 21:05 | <bbeattie> | ahbritto: I'm not familiar with that card, or it's support in linux/mythtv, could you explain more? |
| 21:06 | <ahbritto> | Made by: http://www.hauppauge.com/ |
| 21:07 | <bbeattie> | what's it support level under mythtv? |
| 21:08 | <ahbritto> | No Linux drivers. |
| 21:08 | <ahbritto> | No Linux drivers == no mythtv support. |
| 21:08 | <vektor> | well, it would also have to be feasible to support it |
| 21:08 | <vektor> | like, you'd have to know how you'd store the data and what you'd do with it |
| 21:08 | <bbeattie> | ahbritto: ... I can't say much, but read between the lines, and I'll have some good news in 2 weeks, but in the meantime, I'd like to get mythtv ready for something. |
| 21:09 | <Guest9040> | hey mikegrb, I couldn't find any duplicate entries.. so that solution didn't help |
| 21:09 | <ahbritto> | Oh no, after I bought all those analog cards! :( |
| 21:09 | <mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 21:09 | <Guest9040> | is there a config file I can use to set it up? I'm not too fond of the gui setup |
| 21:09 | <bbeattie> | ahbritto: :( |
| 21:10 | <ahbritto> | vektor: I thought atsc was mpeg, so it should be pretty similar to ivtv. |
| 21:10 | <mikegrb> | Guest: well you could use mysql |
| 21:10 | <bbeattie> | atsc spec for broadcast is a 40Mb/s stream that includes 3 mpeg2 streams |
| 21:11 | <mikegrb> | Guest: you can look there and see what the chanid's are... more likely then not they will start with different numbers... eg 1051 and 2051 for chan 51 |
| 21:11 | <ahbritto> | Guest9040: Supposedly someone is working on web setup inteface, but it is not yet available. |
| 21:11 | <vektor> | alot more than the 8Mb/s from ivtv :) |
| 21:11 | <vektor> | also, mythtv composites some gfx on top of the mpeg2 output, couldn't do that with some hugeass video. mpeg decoding becomes a factor. |
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| 21:13 | <bbeattie> | vektor: 4 atsc's over pci and to a single disk has been proven, and display is no problem if you're using an nvidia 440mx and later chip, as it supports mpeg decoding on chip. |
| 21:13 | <mikegrb> | :-D |
| 21:13 | <vektor> | sure but then you can't draw on it |
| 21:14 | <vektor> | like XvMC isn't so nice for OSD goodness :/ |
| 21:14 | <mikegrb> | I just got a 440mx about a month ago |
| 21:14 | <bbeattie> | vektor: well, no OSD has been tested, but do you know it would be impossible to do? |
| 21:14 | <vektor> | mikegrb: barely any links apps support XvMC anyway. i think xine does it ok, mplayer is getting some patches applied slowly afaict. |
| 21:14 | <vektor> | bbeattie: i'm just saying it'd be a pain. |
| 21:14 | <vektor> | imho anywa.y |
| 21:15 | <bbeattie> | vektor: is it worth having hdtv? |
| 21:15 | <ahbritto> | So I am willing to test a digital card or three! |
| 21:15 | <mikegrb> | vektor: slowly applied is fine :-) eventually my video card will be even better <g> |
| 21:16 | <vektor> | bbeattie: i dunno, i get no HDTV here anyway so i'm not one to ask :) |
| 21:16 | <bbeattie> | ahbritto: I may be able to get one person, if I'm lucky, a card, if they can provide functionality in it for mythtv |
| 21:16 | <mikegrb> | I considered satelite to get HDTV but it was way too expensive, neighborhood of $10/channel; |
| 21:17 | <bbeattie> | xine is the only program it works with currently. |
| 21:17 | <ahbritto> | bbeattie: I would recommend giving Chutt the first chance. |
| 21:18 | <bbeattie> | .. Think he'd have time to have support by the 16th for a demo? |
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| 21:18 | <ahbritto> | bbeattie: No idea. |
| 21:19 | <bbeattie> | .. I'm going to idle, but if Chutt reads this, /msg me off channel. |
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| 21:23 | <Guest9040> | yeah mike, I got a set of 1000 and 2000 channels.. |
| 21:28 | <Guest9040> | there we go, deleted all rows > 2000 |
| 21:31 | <mikegrb> | guest: yes, those are two sources |
| 21:31 | <mikegrb> | source 1 and 2 |
| 21:31 | <mikegrb> | you might check the sources table too and get rid of the 2nd one |
| 21:32 | <Guest9040> | I don't understand how I had two sources selected |
| 21:32 | <mikegrb> | well, I had two on accident when I did the initial setup |
| 21:32 | <mikegrb> | one had a null name :-) |
| 21:32 | <Guest9040> | I guess that could have happened to me |
| 21:33 | <Guest9040> | but even if I fixed it right away it wouldn't have removed the second source? |
| 21:33 | <mikegrb> | I wasn't used to the keys and hitting enter at the wrong time on the source setup screen where you type in zip and stuff |
| 21:33 | <Guest9040> | you know what |
| 21:33 | <Guest9040> | I did do that twice |
| 21:33 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:33 | <Guest9040> | because it was blank each time |
| 21:33 | <mikegrb> | yup |
| 21:33 | <mikegrb> | that is what happened to me |
| 21:34 | <Guest9040> | sourceid name xmltvgrabber userid |
| 21:34 | <Guest9040> | Edit Delete 1 NULL tv_grab_na |
| 21:34 | <Guest9040> | Edit Delete 2 NULL tv_grab_na |
| 21:35 | <Guest9040> | is that what you were talking about? |
| 21:35 | <Guest9040> | I am going to delete 2, was there any other source 2 information in the database? |
| 21:38 | <mikegrb> | yes |
| 21:38 | <mikegrb> | that is it |
| 21:38 | <Guest9040> | oh man |
| 21:38 | <Guest9040> | MythTV just rocks |
| 21:39 | <mikegrb> | that's a definite affirmative |
| 21:39 | <Guest9040> | everything is great so far |
| 21:40 | <Guest9040> | some time I will probably take the time and learn how to encode those NUV files to a regular avi or mpeg so I can watch the television shows on my other computer |
| 21:42 | <mikegrb> | a problem I had doing that is my stuff was all rtjpeg and I guess mencoder didn't like that since once I converted them to the other format mpeg4 me thinks it played them fine |
| 21:43 | <mikegrb> | those sources, since the name was null that is why you didn't see them in the setup program |
| 21:43 | <mikegrb> | they were there just with no name |
| 21:44 | <Guest9040> | should I have deleted both? or just the 2? |
| 21:44 | <mikegrb> | I think I might submit a patch for that |
| 21:44 | <mikegrb> | just #2 |
| 21:44 | <Guest9040> | okay |
| 21:44 | <mikegrb> | #1 is the one you want |
| 21:44 | <mikegrb> | you could rename it but I'm not certain that is the only place the name is used |
| 21:44 | <Guest9040> | I am surprised I couldn't find any information on that double listings problem with google, I would have thought other people had that same problem |
| 21:45 | <Guest9040> | if you don't release that patch, you should tell them to at least add it to the FAQ |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | I'm thinking a patch that would say something rather then a blank line when the name is null |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | that way your not looking at the list saying there is nothing there it would say "Null Name" or some such |
| 21:46 | <Guest9040> | yeah |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | I don't like that name though, maybe unnamed would be more intuitive |
| 21:47 | <Guest9040> | how do you go about starting mythbackend on startup? |
| 21:47 | <mikegrb> | what distro do you have? |
| 21:47 | <Guest9040> | Slackware |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | I haven't used slackware in about 8 years |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | <g> |
| 21:48 | <Guest9040> | I didn't like the scripts that came with mythtv, they seemed a bit too much |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | I assume there is in /etc/init.d/ directory with scripts in it |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | is that correct? |
| 21:48 | <Guest9040> | and so I tried to add a line to my crontab "@reboot /usr/local/bin/mythbackend" , but I suppose Linux cron doesn't support @reboot because it didn't work |
| 21:49 | <Guest9040> | no , /etc/rc.d is where the startup scripts are |
| 21:49 | <Guest9040> | but I rather run mythbackend as my user, I don't see why root has to run it |
| 21:49 | <mikegrb> | yes, let me check something real quicl |
| 21:49 | <mikegrb> | er quick even |
| 21:54 | <mikegrb> | for the line to start mythbackend you should be able to use: su <someuser> -c /usr/local/bin/mythbackend <options> |
| 21:55 | <Guest9040> | aha, I'll put that in rc.local then |
| 21:55 | <Guest9040> | thanks |
| 21:55 | <mikegrb> | no problem |
| 21:58 | <Guest9040> | one misc question.. I have mythtv setup to use /dev/dsp2 as an audio device, but I still hear sound through /dev/dsp , I am using btaudio on my tvtuner, so I shouldn't be hearing anything, any ideas? |
| 21:59 | <mikegrb> | yes :-) |
| 22:00 | <mikegrb> | are you using oss or alsa for /dev/dsp? |
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| 22:02 | <mikegrb> | at any rate, check that the line-in is muted or just unplug the passthrough cable from the tuner card |
| 22:40 | <FreddieD> | Do any of you guys use an IR Blaster 200L in your MythTV setups? |
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| 23:37 | <Snow-Man> | So, how are we doing here? |
| 23:37 | <bigguy> | could be better |
| 23:37 | <Snow-Man> | How are the lists doing? |
| 23:37 | <bigguy> | go afaik |
| 23:38 | <bigguy> | erm |
| 23:38 | <bigguy> | good |
| 23:38 | <Snow-Man> | Cool. |
| 23:40 | <bigguy> | bought 2 seconds between each relay -> www -> www ->colo |
| 23:40 | <bigguy> | erm |
| 23:40 | <bigguy> | bout |
| 23:40 | <bigguy> | :P |
| 23:41 | <Snow-Man> | 2 seconds? |
| 23:42 | <bigguy> | yeah |
| 23:43 | <Snow-Man> | That's alot better than it used to be. |
| 23:44 | <bigguy> | 1-3 secs on average |
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