00:01 | <tdb30_> | ;) |
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02:04 | <zaheer> | mdz_: i dont seem to have a line in on my capture card, just a line out...and that has a cable going tothe soundcard |
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02:08 | <zaheer> | i just have tv in, composite in and audio out |
02:08 | <zaheer> | ati tv wonder vw |
02:08 | <zaheer> | ve i mean |
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02:10 | <mdz_> | I think Chutt has one of those |
02:11 | <mdz_> | it wouldn't be too surprising, I guess. it's a pretty bare-bones card. it isn't even stereo |
02:13 | <zaheer> | yah |
02:13 | <zaheer> | also, if one uses btaudio for the tv input |
02:13 | <zaheer> | and wants to use a soundcard's line in for composite input |
02:14 | <zaheer> | it should be possible |
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02:16 | <mdz_> | this page seems to say that it has an audio input, though |
02:16 | <mdz_> | http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=205621 |
02:17 | <dub20> | is there a known issue with mythtv .10 and nothing appearing for "input connections" when running setup? |
02:17 | <dub20> | i see its mentioned on the mailing list, but the only solution i saw was 'use cvs' |
02:18 | <zaheer> | http://home.t-online.de/home/gunther.mayer/bttv/bttv-gallery.html |
02:18 | <zaheer> | have a look there at the ati tv wonder/ve |
02:19 | <zaheer> | chips: bt878khf 25878-12, 24c02n, xtal28 |
02:19 | <zaheer> | Tuner: 4006fn5 |
02:19 | <zaheer> | connectors: comp in, CATV in, aud out |
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02:27 | <Chutt> | dub20, aiw capture card? |
02:29 | <zaheer> | Chutt: would a patch making audiodevice part of cardinput rather than capturecard be acceptable? |
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02:50 | <bline> | I need to figure out how to make dvd menus |
02:56 | <Chutt> | zaheer, no |
03:00 | <dub20> | Chutt: no |
03:00 | <dub20> | a hauppage wintv card |
03:01 | <zaheer> | Chutt: how would you solve the problem of composite video requiring a different audio device than television input? |
03:10 | <zaheer> | anyways once i have fixed the dvb support, i can dedicate that card to composite only |
03:10 | <zaheer> | so wont have that problem... |
03:12 | <Chutt> | dub20, if it doesn't show up, then you don't have the driver installed properly, the user running setup doesn't have permission on the device, or you gave it the wrong device name. |
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03:33 | <bline> | hey Chutt, the red for the cut list doesn't show up anymore in edit mode unless you turn edit mode then turn on the cutlist and turn edit mode off again |
03:35 | <bline> | doesn't really bother me, just thought you might want to know |
03:39 | <Chutt> | hmm |
03:39 | <Chutt> | i'll look into it |
03:39 | <Chutt> | probably broke it last night |
03:49 | <bline> | I've been studying C++ today, even started a string library |
03:49 | <bline> | std::string kinda sucks |
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05:14 | <Timon> | bline: Why not just use QString? |
05:15 | <bline> | llicence issues |
05:15 | <bline> | licence even |
05:16 | <bline> | err, I'm too tired to spell |
05:16 | <Timon> | What don't you like about the Q licence? |
05:16 | <Timon> | agreed, its like 1:15am here |
05:16 | <bline> | It's not me, the company I work for sells software |
05:17 | <bline> | and the code I want to do in C++ is mostly console apps |
05:17 | <bline> | server software |
05:17 | <Timon> | ahhh |
05:17 | <Timon> | what kind of server software? |
05:17 | <bline> | all kinds, management mostly |
05:17 | <Timon> | ahh |
05:18 | <bline> | I'm currently working thing we use internally for our hosting service |
05:18 | <Timon> | coo |
05:19 | <bline> | and I wanted to try my hand at C++ |
05:19 | <bline> | for me, having destructors make it worth it, |
05:19 | <Timon> | I like C++ |
05:20 | <Timon> | I believe Java supports constructors and destructors |
05:20 | <bline> | yeah, well I do a lot of C |
05:20 | <Timon> | Ahhh |
05:20 | <bline> | and perl, but perl it too slow for lots of stuff |
05:21 | <Timon> | i've never done anything more than just a slight bit of tinkering with perl. |
05:21 | <Timon> | A lot of people like it though |
05:21 | <bline> | things I like thus far about C++ are destructor, templates, and polymorphism |
05:21 | <Timon> | Agreed. Pointers have been the hardest thing for me to get used to. |
05:22 | <bline> | and operator overloading |
05:22 | <Timon> | I come from a pointer-less background (php, ColdFusion, ASP, vb) |
05:23 | <bline> | Things I dislike thus far are iostream stuff, and the way object data is accessed |
05:24 | <Timon> | how so? |
05:24 | <bline> | witch one? |
05:24 | <Timon> | both :-) |
05:25 | <bline> | Well I simply do not see the point of iostream, the same thing can be done with method calls or operator overloading |
05:26 | <bline> | And I would perfer more explicit acess to object data rather than it magically being available in the methods |
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05:26 | <bline> | well then |
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06:27 | <zaheer> | bline: c# offers that through automatic get and set methods |
06:30 | <bline> | offers what? |
06:35 | <bline> | it is past my bed time |
06:35 | <bline> | night |
06:35 | <bline> | tell me tomarrow if you see me |
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07:17 | <richy> | Is there anyone in here that installed mythtv using the "gentoo" ebuild ? |
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12:46 | <Peit|Home> | CHutt, got a sec for a quick question? If i set the normal tv channels to an input without a tuner, it will still record at the correct time, just won't bother trying to change the channel, relying on the input to be set to the correct time |
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14:55 | <sfr> | Chutt, you there? |
15:17 | <Chutt> | mostly |
15:19 | <sfr> | ok, looks like the corruption happens between setup and run of ProcesssRequestThread. |
15:23 | <Chutt> | so it's fine in setup? |
15:24 | <Chutt> | put a cerr after the very last line in setup() |
15:26 | <Chutt> | looking at tokens[0] |
15:26 | <Chutt> | and listline[0], too |
15:26 | <sfr> | did that, and tokens[0] is already corrupted, now added another cerr before waidCond. |
15:26 | <sfr> | ok will add listline[0] |
15:27 | <sfr> | i don't see why list and tok is used both? |
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15:35 | <just1nux> | when does the container "browse_info" used in the osd? |
15:45 | <Chutt> | hit 'o' i think during live tv |
15:46 | <Chutt> | sfr, it's _already_ corrupted at the end of setup()? |
15:46 | <bigguy> | ooooh lets port to freelsd |
15:46 | <bigguy> | ;) |
15:46 | <just1nux> | chutt: another question, does the channel number have to be behind the other elements on the screem? |
15:46 | <sfr> | i _think_ but i'm checking it again (waiting for it to crash) |
15:47 | <bigguy> | _hmm_ |
15:47 | <Chutt> | sfr, it'd be nice to see if tok[0] was corrupted at the same place |
15:47 | <Chutt> | just1nux, i dunno |
15:47 | <Chutt> | it's really been quite a while since i touched any of that code |
15:48 | <sfr> | why is ProcessRequestThread called with list and tok? |
15:48 | <Chutt> | setup(), you mean? |
15:48 | <Chutt> | so it doesn't have to regenerate the tokens list again |
15:49 | <Chutt> | not that that takes long, it's just silly to do it twice |
15:49 | <sfr> | so wouldn't tok be enough? |
15:49 | <Chutt> | i'm curious, it all |
15:49 | <Chutt> | is all |
15:50 | <Chutt> | tokens is the first element of listline split by spaces |
16:07 | <Peit|Home> | hmm, I've just recorded a show, and its showing up in the delete recording section, but not it the play recording,. the console says "Error: BBC2 (North West) file not found" |
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17:55 | <tdb30__> | boo |
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19:55 | <mikegrb> | extremis: you around? |
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20:46 | <Chutt> | do de do de do de do |
20:47 | <thor> | do dee-h do do do |
20:47 | <Chutt> | hey thor |
20:47 | <Chutt> | how goes? |
20:47 | <thor> | busy |
20:47 | <thor> | but should be better this week |
20:47 | <Chutt> | cool. |
20:47 | <Chutt> | i've been rather busy myself, so =) |
20:47 | <thor> | not too many commits recently ... |
20:48 | <thor> | from any quarter |
20:48 | <thor> | hopefully, that will change |
20:48 | <thor> | at least this weel |
20:48 | <Chutt> | well, captain_murdoch's stuff is pretty cool |
20:48 | <thor> | week |
20:48 | <thor> | yup, absolutely |
20:48 | <Chutt> | good feature |
20:48 | <thor> | nominated myself for that via-arena thing |
20:48 | <Chutt> | just needs to be extended a tiny bit to stop recording if the disk's full |
20:48 | <Chutt> | and i'd consider that complete |
20:49 | <Chutt> | i really want to get that image cache going soon |
20:49 | <Chutt> | and the OSD menu stuff |
20:49 | <thor> | Haven't looked at it too closely |
20:49 | <thor> | we are on the verge of a command language |
20:49 | <Chutt> | cool |
20:49 | <thor> | but, also "on the verge" of having mythDVD |
20:49 | <thor> | and CD burning from mythmusic |
20:49 | <Chutt> | i can take a look at the dvd stuff if you'd like |
20:50 | <thor> | lots of things I've gotten half done and then had to go do real work |
20:50 | <Chutt> | yeah, real work sucks |
20:50 | <thor> | I'm hoping to clear through a lot of it this week |
20:50 | <thor> | will send you tarballs as they become useable |
20:50 | <thor> | how's your week going to be? |
20:50 | <Chutt> | dunno yet |
20:51 | <thor> | k |
20:51 | <thor> | oh ... apparently dinner is ready |
20:51 | <Chutt> | right _now_, i only have one project to finish up |
20:51 | <thor> | bbl |
20:51 | <Chutt> | but that'll change |
20:51 | <thor> | catch up with you later tonight with any luck |
20:52 | <Chutt> | cool |
20:54 | <bline> | was freenode down? |
20:54 | <Chutt> | dns is/was |
20:54 | <Chutt> | freenode.org or freenode.info work |
20:54 | <Chutt> | nfc why |
20:54 | <bline> | it took me like 20 min to connect |
20:56 | <rkulagow_> | chutt, are you still here? |
20:56 | <Chutt> | yup |
20:56 | <Chutt> | sorry, haven't done the docs resync yet |
20:56 | <rkulagow_> | hey - can you please sync the website |
20:56 | <rkulagow_> | never mind then. |
20:56 | <rkulagow_> | ;) |
20:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
20:56 | <Chutt> | which version of xmltv does it say to install now? |
20:57 | <rkulagow_> | i think 5.14 for 0.10 |
20:57 | <Chutt> | mind double checking before i sync em up? |
20:58 | <rkulagow_> | 0.5.15 is in the HOWTO. guess that's wrong unless you're CVS |
20:59 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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21:00 | <jkolb> | Snow-Man: You around? |
21:01 | <Snow-Man> | yea |
21:01 | <jkolb> | Sorry about bouncing all the list mail today. Please don't kick my ass. |
21:01 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
21:02 | <Snow-Man> | Been way too busy with other stuff. |
21:02 | <jkolb> | Found out that a spammer was using my server as a relay. Went overboard with the restrictions, and bounced pretty much every piece of mail that reached my machine today. |
21:02 | <jkolb> | I apparently set up the auth config badly. |
21:03 | <Chutt> | snowman, still haven't seen the mail i sent at 7:45 =) |
21:03 | <Snow-Man> | yea, yea, I was just looking into that. |
21:03 | <Snow-Man> | Has the list been really laggy alot recently or was that just a fluke? |
21:03 | <Chutt> | dunno |
21:03 | <Snow-Man> | /var/spool/mqueue/hourly (10077 requests) |
21:03 | <Snow-Man> | Good grief. |
21:03 | <jkolb> | I had it set up so that the server would allow relaying from any ip as long as you authenticated first, but the authentication mechanism doesn't seem to be checking against system u/p or something. |
21:04 | <Chutt> | most recent email i've gotten took 30 minutes to go from relay -> www |
21:04 | <jkolb> | He was authenticating as user 'webmaster'. I don't have a webmaster user. |
21:05 | <Snow-Man> | It doesn't appear to be bouncing mail in the hourly queue correctly. |
21:06 | <Chutt> | hey |
21:06 | <Chutt> | while you're futzing with that stuff |
21:06 | <Snow-Man> | eh? |
21:06 | <Chutt> | anything weird with s019@krans.org ? |
21:06 | <Snow-Man> | (host map: lookup (krans.org): deferred) |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | ie: His DNS server is fucked. |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | sfrost@www:/home/sfrost> host -t mx krans.org |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | Nameserver not responding |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | krans.org MX record not found, try again |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | h6BFXNeL006009 928 Fri Jul 11 11:33 <mythtv-dev-bounces@snowman.net> |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | (Deferred: 451 qq temporary problem (#4.3.0)) |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | <kmberry@speakeasy.net> |
21:07 | <Snow-Man> | <ijr@speakeasy.net> |
21:08 | <Snow-Man> | Looks like a SE problem on the mail stuff... |
21:08 | <Chutt> | ah |
21:08 | <Chutt> | ok |
21:08 | <Chutt> | thanks |
21:08 | <Snow-Man> | No prob. |
21:08 | <Chutt> | though i'm getting some email through |
21:08 | * Snow-Man | shrugs. |
21:08 | <Chutt> | and there is a big delay in relay -> www =) |
21:08 | <Snow-Man> | Hrm, I'll look into that. |
21:08 | <rkulagow_> | chutt, new version is synced in CVS. |
21:09 | <Chutt> | cool |
21:09 | <Chutt> | i'll get that up |
21:09 | <Snow-Man> | Oh, of course, it's because of www getting overloaded again. |
21:09 | <Chutt> | for the single page and pdf versions, want to just put a link in the first section? |
21:09 | <Chutt> | ah |
21:09 | <Snow-Man> | blah, blah, blah. |
21:09 | <rkulagow_> | i finally got rid of that craptacular linksys i had that kept hanging. |
21:10 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: sure, i guess i can do that. |
21:10 | <Chutt> | snowman, i get a response to host -t mx krans.org |
21:10 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: what URL will they be available at? |
21:10 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, they'll be in http://www.mythtv.org/docs/ |
21:10 | <Chutt> | best place for em, i'd say |
21:10 | <rkulagow_> | (great minds, same gutter, etc) |
21:11 | <Snow-Man> | There, the delay should be less on the relay -> www stuff. |
21:11 | <rkulagow_> | ok, so URL will be http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.pdf |
21:11 | <Chutt> | yeah |
21:11 | <Chutt> | snowman, cool |
21:11 | <rkulagow_> | ok, gimme a second. |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @a.ns.joker.com krans.org MX |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | ;; global options: printcmd |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | sfrost@snowman:/home/sfrost> dig @b.ns.joker.com krans.org MX |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | dig: Couldn't find server 'b.ns.joker.com': Name or service not known |
21:12 | <Chutt> | works from colo |
21:12 | <Snow-Man> | haha, that's great. |
21:13 | <Snow-Man> | Then they're blocking my network for some reason. |
21:13 | <jkolb> | Yay. So, I lost all messages from today, didn't I? |
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21:14 | <Chutt> | jkolb, there wasn't anything important |
21:14 | <Chutt> | at all |
21:14 | <jkolb> | Oh, good. |
21:14 | <jkolb> | Ever get a chance to test that last mythweb patch? |
21:14 | <Chutt> | no, sorry |
21:14 | <Snow-Man> | 21:14:10.875736 snowman.net.32785 > 194.176.0.2.domain: 53747+ MX? krans.org. (27) (DF) |
21:14 | <Snow-Man> | 21:14:15.884220 snowman.net.32785 > 194.176.0.2.domain: 53747+ MX? krans.org. (27) (DF) |
21:15 | <Chutt> | wife's been having me do yardwork and crap |
21:15 | <Snow-Man> | Requests are leaving here. |
21:15 | <Chutt> | no coding for me =) |
21:15 | <jkolb> | Well, that's your fault for getting married. |
21:15 | <jkolb> | <g> |
21:15 | <Snow-Man> | Dunno what to tell you. |
21:16 | <Chutt> | i don't care, really |
21:16 | <Chutt> | he just emailed me about not getting mail |
21:16 | <Snow-Man> | Well, you can tell him what appears to be the problem. |
21:16 | <Chutt> | yeah |
21:16 | <Chutt> | thanks |
21:16 | <Snow-Man> | No prob. |
21:17 | <rkulagow_> | chutt: should be good now. |
21:17 | <Chutt> | cool |
21:18 | <Chutt> | i'll get that done soonish |
21:18 | <rkulagow_> | great. bbl. |
21:18 | <mikegrb> | I |
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21:32 | <rkulagow_> | hrmm. the epia contest closes on monday at midnight. i wouldn't mind another box, but mdz seems to keep breaking his and blaming the hardware. ;) |
21:33 | <Chutt> | oh yeah |
21:33 | <Chutt> | i should decide if i should enter that or not |
21:33 | <rkulagow_> | do it. if you win, you can give it away. |
21:34 | <rkulagow_> | besides, if freevo wins and doesn't turn around and send everything to Arpi and the other mplayer folks... |
21:34 | <jkolb> | Does anyone know a remedy to the blue screen problem? It started happening to me today. I tried searching the archives, but a first pass didn't reveal the solution to me. |
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21:35 | <rkulagow_> | hrmm. are we just supposed to send an email to the epia people and say, "i nominate X for project Y?" |
21:36 | <Chutt> | says to submit code |
21:36 | <rkulagow_> | what, like a tarball, or diff's based on vcs userid? |
21:36 | <rkulagow_> | oops, cvs. |
21:36 | <tdb30_> | hey I have another question today. When I go to the program guide it seems the remote doesn't work on that page. does it use different codes than up, down right and left on that page? |
21:37 | <Chutt> | uses the same things as everything else |
21:37 | <tdb30_> | question 2. how hard would it be to incorporate a sleep key into mythtv so I can say click on it and it lets me cycle through sleep times and start a screensaver when the sleep time counts down to zero. |
21:37 | <tdb30_> | weird. the arrow keyes stop working on that screen and only that screen. |
21:38 | <Chutt> | submit a patch |
21:38 | <Chutt> | for the sleep timer :p |
21:38 | <tdb30_> | you like that idea? |
21:38 | <Chutt> | don't care either way |
21:39 | <bbeattie> | Are the TV Formats for NTSC-JP. PAL-M, PAL-N, used at all currently? |
21:39 | <tdb30_> | whats weird is that the program guide under schedule recordings works fine. but the program guide when watching a program doesn't work for me. It gets in there but the remote stops working until I manualy go to the keyboard and hit esc. |
21:39 | <bbeattie> | or just PAL, NTSC, and SECAM? |
21:39 | <Chutt> | bbeatie, they're all used |
21:40 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: what do they effect? |
21:40 | <Chutt> | the driver |
21:42 | <just1nux> | <timeformat>hh:mm</timeformat> <---what are my options here in the osd.xml? |
21:42 | <Chutt> | anything that's understood by Qt |
21:42 | <Chutt> | lemme get a link |
21:42 | <just1nux> | ok cool |
21:43 | <just1nux> | 24 hour clock just aint doin it for me |
21:44 | <Chutt> | well, hh:mm ap will switch it to 12 hour |
21:45 | <Chutt> | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qtime.html#toString |
21:45 | <Chutt> | there |
21:46 | <Chutt> | anything that understands will work |
21:48 | <just1nux> | ok thanks |
21:50 | <just1nux> | cool, that page had exactly the option is wanted. |
21:55 | <Chutt> | yay |
21:55 | <Chutt> | i got the email that i sent at 7:45 |
21:55 | <Chutt> | snowman, delay was 2 hours relay->www |
21:56 | <Snow-Man> | yea, that'll be better now. |
21:56 | <jkolb> | Me too. I guess that means I un-fuxx0red exim. |
22:00 | <Chutt> | hm |
22:00 | <Chutt> | i should put up pics of the closed captioning support |
22:00 | <bbeattie> | Can mythtv handle having both PAL and NTSC capture cards in the same system? It doesn't appear that this can be chosen per card. |
22:00 | <mdz_> | I have a feeling this RMA is not going to result in a new CPU coming my way |
22:01 | <Chutt> | bbeatie, no, it can't handle that |
22:01 | <Chutt> | mdz, sucks |
22:01 | <mdz_> | heh |
22:01 | <mdz_> | I had a feeling |
22:01 | <mdz_> | I may need to stop buying AMD |
22:01 | <Chutt> | you _did_ fry it yourself, though =) |
22:02 | <mdz_> | I don't know how, though |
22:02 | <mdz_> | it's not as if I didn't put thermal compound and an approved heatsink+fan on it |
22:02 | <mdz_> | the first one ran fine for like 6 months before spontaneously quitting, so I don't take responsibility for that one |
22:08 | <Chutt> | heh |
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22:32 | <Chutt> | just1nux, so, how would you feel about visor being the default theme? |
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22:41 | <just1nux> | that would be great. :) |
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23:30 | <mikegrb> | just1nux: just wanted to say your theme is great |
23:31 | <just1nux> | mikegrb: thanks :) matching osd is almost done. should be done tonight. |
23:35 | <mikegrb> | sweet |
23:35 | <mikegrb> | been eagerly awaiting it |
23:36 | <mikegrb> | is the show description multi-line? Only thing I dislike about the current default it it being single line |
23:36 | <moegreen> | just1nux: do you have some more screenshots? I've only seen the one off the main mythtv theme page |
23:37 | <mikegrb> | moegreen: trust me, you'll like it ;-) |
23:37 | <just1nux> | http://www.coincapital.com/visor/ |
23:37 | <just1nux> | those are all the screenshots i have taken. |
23:37 | <just1nux> | none of the osd yet. |
23:38 | <just1nux> | i thought descriptions were already multiline |
23:38 | <mikegrb> | the theme can have either |
23:38 | <mikegrb> | as far as I can tell anyway |
23:38 | <just1nux> | anyhow, the area with the description is at the top (more like tivo and replay) so theres room for descriptions and other info |
23:39 | <mikegrb> | I like that idea, that's how directtv receivers do it too |
23:40 | <just1nux> | so, do i, only thing at the bottom now is volume/ picture controls and the commercial edit stuff. |
23:44 | <bline> | hmm, I always have to increase the font size on themes I use |
23:46 | <bline> | am I at an odd resolution, 640x480 |
23:47 | <just1nux> | i dont think so. |
23:48 | <bline> | your theme does look nice though I can't read the font very well :) |
23:52 | <just1nux> | btw, most of the fonts in my themes are bigger than default...some are smaller. |
23:55 | <bline> | http://24.84.93.233/screen.png |
23:56 | <bline> | just1nux: it's not your theme's fonts, I have the same trouble with all the themes |
23:56 | <bline> | that screen doesn't look like the one on your site |
23:56 | <just1nux> | hmm 256 colors? |
23:57 | <just1nux> | transparency is not working at all |
23:57 | <Chutt> | bline, what's your dpi settings? |
23:57 | <just1nux> | i thionk theres a setting for that |
23:57 | <bline> | Chutt: 24 |
23:57 | <bline> | color depth |
23:58 | <bline> | hmm, I'll look in X logs |
23:58 | <Chutt> | xdpyinfo | grep resolution |
23:58 | <Chutt> | it assumes 100x100 for fonts |
23:58 | <Chutt> | but looking at that, you don't have and AA going on |
23:58 | <Chutt> | 'any' |
23:59 | <Chutt> | like, xft and/or the xrender extension aren't working |
23:59 | <bline> | resolution: 75x75 dots per inch |