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| 00:22 | <tdb30_> | humm interesting. I just set the time (whcih was off by a good chunk of time and it killed the backend |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | was it in live tv? |
| 00:23 | <vektor> | found the bug with tvtime's xvideo on the epia |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | vektor, hm? |
| 00:23 | <vektor> | it can't handle non-multiple-of-32 width frames |
| 00:23 | <tdb30_> | recording |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | tdb30, a bunch of stuff is really time dependent during all that |
| 00:24 | <tdb30_> | ahh..humm. |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | too big of a delay when it was expecting a small delay |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | and boom |
| 00:24 | * Captain_Murdoch | imagines negative timestamps |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 00:24 | <tdb30_> | no way to code around it? |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | and other nastys |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | not really |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | it's fine during small adjustments |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | say, if you sync the time once a day |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | vektor, that's odd. i also like how it ignores the picture x/y/w/h settings |
| 00:26 | <vektor> | oh it does? |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | yeah, it won't display only part of the image |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | just displays all of it |
| 00:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anyone have problems with vertical stripes on the video when using a pvr-250? |
| 00:29 | <vektor> | crappy |
| 00:29 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I didn't have them before when I had it in my other system, I'm wondering if I was using a different firmware at the time. |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | picture's fine here |
| 00:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | what file did you get your firmware images from if you remember? |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | latest download from hauppauge's website |
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| 00:31 | <awithers> | there is a text string with the firmware version a few bytes into the files in /lib/modules |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | i've got a 350 running with the same firmware |
| 00:31 | <tdb30_> | vi rkkk |
| 00:32 | <Captain_Murdoch> | my 250 is one of the early ones, not the earliest model but not the newer ones either. |
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| 00:32 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I've got 3 different firmware files other than the CD, I'll have to try some of those. |
| 00:33 | <tdb30_> | what is supposed to happen if you fastforward past the end of the show... I just get it freezing on the last frame. |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | it exits |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | which works fine here. |
| 00:33 | <awithers> | I'm using 2.02.001 (dec) 2.03.021 (enc) on two different 250's |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | 2.03.207 here |
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| 00:34 | <Captain_Murdoch> | chutt, same here. I'm going to try an older version since my card is older. |
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| 00:34 | <Chutt> | same decoder version, but that's meaningless at this point |
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| 00:37 | <Chutt> | damnit |
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| 00:37 | <Chutt> | i can't get it to exit early off of an in-progress recording |
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| 00:53 | <anduin> | chutt - have you ever seen in-progress drop off? |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | i've been trying to reproduce with a variety of settings, etc |
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| 00:54 | <Chutt> | still can't get i tto |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | to |
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| 00:54 | <anduin> | I've seen it happen, I can't reliably reproduce it... not expecting it to happen seems to be one of the steps sadly |
| 00:54 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | analog encodes, bad analog encodes (ie, dropping frames), hardware encoding, remote, local |
| 00:55 | <anduin> | it does not happen any more frequently with newer cvs for me... just once every blue moon. |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | i've done all of those for quite a while recently |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | that one guy on the list says it happens all the time for him |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | i know _what_ it's doing, i just have no idea why |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | time to sleep. |
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| 01:28 | <bline> | happy weekend |
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| 09:03 | <choenig> | sfr: hi, I looked at your patch and modified it in that way that you now can select None, Auto and the offsets in the setup program. |
| 09:04 | <choenig> | addidionally I moved the calc of the offset out of the way, so that its not called over and over again |
| 09:04 | <sfr> | choenig, cool, thanks. |
| 09:05 | <choenig> | sfr: you want to have a look at it? |
| 09:08 | <sfr> | sure. Send the patch to sfr@gmx.net. |
| 09:09 | <choenig> | ok, done |
| 09:20 | <sfr> | choenig: one thing i noticed after sending my initial patch: changing 'localTimezoneOffset = -(ldt.secsTo(utcdt) / 3600)' to 'localTimezoneOffset = utcdt.secsTo(ldt) / 3600' looks cleaner |
| 09:22 | <choenig> | ah, yeah :) |
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| 14:37 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I just install MythTV on Debian Sid on my Xbox. |
| 14:38 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I want it for MythMusic, mostly. But when I put a CD in the CD-ROM drive, MythMusic doesn't seem to believe it's there. |
| 14:38 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cdparanoia can rip from it just fine if I run 'cdparnoia'. |
| 14:38 | <thor> | did you run setup? |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv-setup ? |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:39 | <thor> | (tell it where the device is) |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | And I used the Setup menu from mythfrontend |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I told it /dev/cdrom. |
| 14:39 | <thor> | is that correct > |
| 14:39 | <thor> | ? |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cdparanoia works just fine with that setting. |
| 14:39 | <thor> | mythmusic uses cdparanoia |
| 14:40 | <thor> | did you type it into the settings box, or use the arrow keys? |
| 14:40 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Er, I used the arrow keys to navigate. |
| 14:40 | <paulproteus|lapt> | It was the default; I just selected it. |
| 14:41 | <thor> | and went throught to the end (space, space, space) with no ESC anywhere? |
| 14:42 | <thor> | technically, space space =) |
| 14:42 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:42 | <thor> | odd ... |
| 14:42 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I could offer a VNC connection to it, I guess. |
| 14:42 | <thor> | you know a little sql? |
| 14:42 | <thor> | SQL ? |
| 14:42 | <paulproteus|lapt> | "a little" |
| 14:42 | <thor> | ok, try this ... |
| 14:42 | <thor> | from a shell prompt |
| 14:43 | <thor> | mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg |
| 14:43 | <thor> | (enter mythtv as password) |
| 14:43 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 1 sec |
| 14:44 | <paulproteus|lapt> | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 14:45 | <thor> | ah |
| 14:45 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Is my DB setup b0rked? |
| 14:45 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I followed the Debian instructions, I think. |
| 14:45 | <thor> | sure sounds like it |
| 14:45 | <paulproteus|lapt> | But I'd be happy to blank it and start over. |
| 14:45 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'd just need to know how. |
| 14:45 | <thor> | can you get in as root (to mysql) ? |
| 14:45 | <sfr> | thor wait! mdz debian packages use a random password created during install. |
| 14:46 | <thor> | oh |
| 14:46 | <sfr> | so check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| 14:46 | <thor> | random password for mythtv, or for root on mysql ? |
| 14:46 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (go MDZ!) |
| 14:46 | <thor> | ah |
| 14:46 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay, cool. |
| 14:46 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Root is passwordless |
| 14:46 | <sfr> | er, for the mythtv user |
| 14:46 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I mean, uh, I know its password. |
| 14:46 | <thor> | thanks sfr |
| 14:46 | * paulproteus|lapt | ducks |
| 14:47 | <thor> | so, do the same as before, but when it asks you for the password, do watever mysql.txt says it is |
| 14:47 | <paulproteus|lapt> | That worked nicely. |
| 14:47 | <thor> | you at a SQL prompt ? |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:48 | <thor> | select * from settings where value = "CDDevice" ; |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | | value | data | hostname | |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | +----------+------------+------------------+ |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | | CDDevice | /dev/cdrom | mogul.laroia.net | |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | +----------+------------+------------------+ |
| 14:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (That's right.) |
| 14:48 | <thor> | hostname looks a bit weird |
| 14:49 | <thor> | it's usually unqualified |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ hostname |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mogul.laroia.net |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Should I unqualify it /etc/hostname? |
| 14:49 | <thor> | well, I'm not really sure ... |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ host `hostname` |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mogul.laroia.net has address 66.66.102.254 |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | That's wrong. |
| 14:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | One sec. |
| 14:50 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 192.168.0.24 mogul.laroia.net in /etc/hosts |
| 14:50 | <paulproteus|lapt> | The hostname *should* be fine. |
| 14:50 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 'host' always uses DNS, rather than glibc resolution order, iirc. |
| 14:51 | <thor> | do you have just "mogul" in /etc/hosts ? |
| 14:51 | <sfr> | just checked it here /etc/hostname is unqualified on my box (DEBIAN sid) |
| 14:51 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:51 | <thor> | and all of mine |
| 14:51 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 192.168.0.24 mogul.laroia.net mogul is the full line. |
| 14:51 | <thor> | (3 or 4) |
| 14:51 | <thor> | to mythtv that is |
| 14:51 | * paulproteus|lapt | sets it to unqualified |
| 14:52 | <thor> | you still have a mysql prompt ? |
| 14:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | But the SQL entries still say .laroia.net |
| 14:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 14:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I set the hostname in /etc/hostname to just mogul. |
| 14:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Is that what you meant? |
| 14:52 | <thor> | hang on |
| 14:52 | <thor> | are you running *myth* on more than one box |
| 14:52 | <thor> | seperate front/back end ? |
| 14:53 | <paulproteus|lapt> | By the way, thank you all greatly. |
| 14:53 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Not rightn now, but I might later. |
| 14:53 | <thor> | ok, fine |
| 14:53 | <thor> | try this sql line: |
| 14:53 | <thor> | update settings set hostname = "mogul" ; |
| 14:53 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 92 rows affected. |
| 14:54 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Try the frontend again? |
| 14:54 | <thor> | quit ; |
| 14:54 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Bye :) |
| 14:54 | <thor> | mythfrontend mythmusic |
| 14:54 | <thor> | try ripping |
| 14:54 | <paulproteus|lapt> | One sec, let me get the TV back from my parents :) |
| 14:56 | <paulproteus|lapt> | No dice. |
| 14:56 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Same blank "I don't believe a CD is in the drive" screen on Import. |
| 14:56 | <paulproteus|lapt> | And it doesn't show in Playlist view, either. |
| 14:56 | <-- Snow-Man | has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 14:59 | <thor> | permissions on /dev/cdrom ? |
| 14:59 | <thor> | (whoever myth is running as) |
| 15:00 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ cdparanoia 1 -d /dev/cdrom works fine. |
| 15:00 | <thor> | myth running as same person as cdparanoia ? |
| 15:00 | <paulproteus|lapt> | group 'cdrom' has rw- on it, and mythtv is a member. |
| 15:00 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv is running mythtv, and I just ran cdparanoia as him. |
| 15:01 | * paulproteus|lapt | waves to mdz: "Thanks for all your work with FLAC!" |
| 15:01 | <paulproteus|lapt> | metadata.o: Your database is out of whack. This is not good. |
| 15:01 | <paulproteus|lapt> | That's in .xsession-errors. |
| 15:01 | <paulproteus|lapt> | That seems relevant. |
| 15:01 | <thor> | that's ok (if you have no tracks yet) |
| 15:02 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I have none; that's what I thought it meant. |
| 15:02 | * paulproteus|lapt | blinks |
| 15:03 | <thor> | ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| 15:03 | <thor> | then ls -l whatever the link is |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | "See how deep the rabbit hole goes", eh? |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jul 4 08:39 /dev/cdrom -> cdroms/cdrom0 |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 33 Dec 31 1969 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 -> ../ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 64 Dec 31 1969 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ groups |
| 15:03 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv cdrom audio video |
| 15:04 | <paulproteus|lapt> | But the biggie is that (1) Myth doesn't report a permissions problem, and (2) cdparanoia works. |
| 15:04 | <sfr> | hm, maybe devfs is the problem? |
| 15:04 | <thor> | looks a bit wonky to me |
| 15:04 | <paulproteus|lapt> | But it works with cdparanoia.... |
| 15:05 | <thor> | yes, but mythmusic does it's own device access |
| 15:05 | <thor> | this line: |
| 15:05 | <sfr> | but mythmusic never starts cdparanoia as it doesn't see a cdrom |
| 15:05 | <thor> | it doesn't run the executable |
| 15:05 | <thor> | it uses the library |
| 15:05 | <paulproteus|lapt> | But 'cdparanoia' working means the device permissions at least are fine. |
| 15:06 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'll grant that Myth may have strange workings deep in its underbelly that I cannot predict, though. |
| 15:06 | <thor> | I would seriously think about doing a ln -s /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd /dev/cdrom |
| 15:06 | <thor> | but then I know nothing about devfs |
| 15:06 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'll do that right now. |
| 15:07 | <paulproteus|lapt> | And, restarting Myth.... |
| 15:08 | <jkolb> | Why not try putting /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd in the devide line and seeing if that works? |
| 15:08 | <thor> | jkolb, or straight in the db |
| 15:08 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Identical behavior. |
| 15:08 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yeah, sure, I can do that. How woud I? |
| 15:08 | <jkolb> | RIght, that too. |
| 15:08 | <thor> | mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg as before |
| 15:08 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'll do it from the GUI, to avoid restarting Myth. |
| 15:08 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (Or, the DB would be fine, too ;) |
| 15:08 | <thor> | GUI doesn't always let you type stuff |
| 15:09 | <thor> | (or it does, but then ignores it) |
| 15:09 | <thor> | db is safer |
| 15:09 | <thor> | once you're in mysql |
| 15:09 | * paulproteus|lapt | nods |
| 15:10 | <jkolb> | I can't resolve any of the mythtv.org hosts. Anyone else having problems? |
| 15:10 | <thor> | update settings set data="/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd" where value="CDDevice" ; |
| 15:10 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 2 rows affected. |
| 15:10 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Testing now. |
| 15:10 | <paulproteus|lapt> | quitting first. |
| 15:10 | <sfr> | jkolb same here for www.mythtv.org |
| 15:10 | <thor> | jkolb, works for me |
| 15:11 | <thor> | paulproteus|lapt, did you say 2 rows affected ? |
| 15:11 | <thor> | *2* |
| 15:11 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Two. |
| 15:11 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 15:11 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Still blank. |
| 15:11 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Is that strange? |
| 15:11 | <thor> | hmmmm |
| 15:11 | <thor> | yes, if you only have one machine running it |
| 15:12 | * paulproteus|lapt | grins |
| 15:12 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay. Maybe I should clear my SQL and re-fill it. |
| 15:12 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Who knows, maybe that'll magically fix it. |
| 15:12 | <thor> | it would be a good idea to completely rebuild the database |
| 15:12 | <paulproteus|lapt> | How do I pull this? |
| 15:12 | <jkolb> | select hostname from settings where value="CDDevice" ; ? |
| 15:12 | <thor> | but make sure your hostname resolves first |
| 15:13 | <thor> | (outside of myth) |
| 15:13 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Using 'host'? |
| 15:13 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 'host' always uses DNS. |
| 15:13 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I can try, say, telnet. |
| 15:13 | <paulproteus|lapt> | It works. |
| 15:13 | <thor> | ping mogul |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Both qualified and unqualified work. |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (I tried both "ping mogul" and "ping mogul.laroia.net") |
| 15:14 | <thor> | same IP address ? |
| 15:14 | <thor> | ping output |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes, same IP. |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 192.168.0.24 both times. |
| 15:14 | <thor> | different than localhost |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ ping mogul |
| 15:14 | <thor> | ping localhost says 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | PING mogul.laroia.net (192.168.0.24): 56 data bytes |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 64 bytes from 192.168.0.24: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.1 ms |
| 15:14 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mythtv@mogul:~$ ping mogul.laroia.net |
| 15:15 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 15:15 | <thor> | good |
| 15:15 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay, that got mangled. |
| 15:15 | <paulproteus|lapt> | localhost is 127.0.0.1. mogul & mogul.laroia.net both resolve to eth0. |
| 15:16 | <thor> | so ... you probably want to drop the mythconverg database, do a database rebuild, and rerun setup |
| 15:16 | <thor> | perhaps drop devfs as well (I have no idea how hard that is to do, but it is EXPERIMENTAL code) |
| 15:17 | <paulproteus|lapt> | The symlinks work fine. |
| 15:17 | <paulproteus|lapt> | It's for hot-plug stuff that it's experimental. |
| 15:17 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Symlinks are just the same as using symlinks elsewhere. |
| 15:17 | <thor> | like I said, I know nothing about it |
| 15:17 | <paulproteus|lapt> | mysql> DROP database mythconverg; |
| 15:17 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.42 sec) |
| 15:17 | <thor> | that's right |
| 15:17 | * paulproteus|lapt | nods |
| 15:18 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Bye, says MySQL. Now, how to rebuild the DB.... |
| 15:18 | <thor> | main mythdirectory |
| 15:18 | <thor> | cd database |
| 15:18 | <tdb30_> | mythtv is constantly printing out a rebuffering message every 2 or 3 seconds and the screen is frozen. what would caus this. |
| 15:19 | <thor> | mysql < mc.sql |
| 15:19 | <thor> | tdb30_, I think it's your slowass computer =) |
| 15:19 | <sfr> | thor, he might not have mc.sql as he's using the deb's |
| 15:19 | <tdb30_> | hey you! |
| 15:19 | <thor> | sfr, glad you're still here |
| 15:19 | <paulproteus|lapt> | root@mogul:/usr/share/mythtv/sql# |
| 15:20 | <paulproteus|lapt> | . ./0-5-to-0-6.sql ./mythgallery.sql ./cvs.sql ./conflict.sql ./mythmusic-0-7-to-0-8.sql ./0-7-to-0-8.sql ./0.9-to-0.10.sql ./mythmusic-0-8-to-0-9.sql ./0-8-to-0-9.sql ./record.sql ./conflictupdate.sql ./mc.sql ./mythmusic.sql |
| 15:20 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Should I still do 'mc'? |
| 15:20 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt, uh, where'd you find these? |
| 15:20 | <sfr> | sorry, i'm blind ;-) |
| 15:20 | <paulproteus|lapt> | :) |
| 15:21 | <thor> | Debian ignorance, but is there a way to "purge" the packages and then re-get them ? |
| 15:21 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (I find find | xargs echo to keep it all on one line) |
| 15:21 | <thor> | that might be simplest |
| 15:21 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. I guess I'll try that. |
| 15:21 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'd rather do mysql < mc if that'll probably work, but okay. |
| 15:21 | <sfr> | thor, what do you mean? you can do forced reinstall of mythtv-database, should recreate mythconverg |
| 15:22 | <paulproteus|lapt> | sfr: Enlighten me :) |
| 15:22 | <thor> | sfr, ok ... much like devfs, i know nothing about Debian |
| 15:22 | <paulproteus|lapt> | apt-get --reinstall mythtv-database ? |
| 15:22 | <thor> | sfr? |
| 15:23 | <jkolb> | dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database? |
| 15:23 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt sorry never had to use it, maybe it works? let me check... |
| 15:23 | * paulproteus|lapt | does reconfigure |
| 15:23 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Whee, that was quick. |
| 15:24 | <paulproteus|lapt> | How do I find out if it did something useful? Maybe an SQL command? |
| 15:24 | <thor> | yup ... you dropped the table .. so if it's there, it worked |
| 15:24 | <jkolb> | Well, if mythconverg exists, I'd say it did something useful. |
| 15:24 | <sfr> | try the mysql -p -u mythtv mythconverg on the cmd |
| 15:24 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Worked. |
| 15:25 | * paulproteus|lapt | re-tries the frontend |
| 15:25 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt note that the mysql password for the mythtv sql user probably has changed. |
| 15:25 | <paulproteus|lapt> | By the way, thank all you tremendously for helping me out. |
| 15:25 | <paulproteus|lapt> | It wasn't (oddly?). |
| 15:25 | <thor> | we'll send you a bill later |
| 15:26 | <paulproteus|lapt> | You have no Myth tables in your DB. |
| 15:26 | <paulproteus|lapt> | "Okay, I'll RTFM" |
| 15:26 | <thor> | ah |
| 15:26 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Heh, that was fun. |
| 15:26 | <thor> | that;s mine |
| 15:27 | <thor> | probably just missing mythmusic tables |
| 15:27 | <paulproteus|lapt> | lol, thor, your Real Name is "Thor"? |
| 15:27 | <thor> | yup |
| 15:27 | <paulproteus|lapt> | How do I get a listing of all tables? |
| 15:27 | <thor> | show tables from mythconverg ; |
| 15:27 | <sfr> | thor: i think so, mythtv only creates the basic mythtv tables |
| 15:27 | <jkolb> | dpkg-reconfigure mythmusic (or whatever that package is called) would probably add those tables. |
| 15:28 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Things for TV. |
| 15:28 | <paulproteus|lapt> | dpkg-reconfigure mythmusic indeed. |
| 15:29 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt dito for other mythtv-plugins |
| 15:29 | <paulproteus|lapt> | dpkg --reconfigure mythweather mythmusic mythgallery mythweb, in fact. |
| 15:29 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (dpkg-reconfigure, rather) |
| 15:29 | * paulproteus|lapt | blinks |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:31 | <Chutt> | you didn't have a database problem, btw |
| 15:31 | <paulproteus|lapt> | No effect. |
| 15:31 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Eh, Chutt? |
| 15:31 | <paulproteus|lapt> | What did (do?) I have? |
| 15:32 | <Chutt> | i don't know, but it certainly wasn't a database problem |
| 15:32 | <thor> | but look how much we learned about dpkg ! |
| 15:32 | * paulproteus|lapt | is completely new to Myth, though I've been reading the site for ages |
| 15:32 | * paulproteus|lapt | grins |
| 15:32 | <sfr> | Chutt any problems with using devfs? |
| 15:32 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'd say it's possible the Xbox drive doesn't read the CD wel, but cdparanoia picks it up just fine. |
| 15:33 | <thor> | you can use cdparanoia |
| 15:33 | <thor> | to rip |
| 15:33 | <thor> | for the time being |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | well, it's using libcdparanoia |
| 15:33 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I guess so, thor. |
| 15:33 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Then import it. |
| 15:33 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Where does myth store its music? |
| 15:33 | <Chutt> | do you have the 'automatically look up cds' option turned on? |
| 15:34 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 15:34 | <Chutt> | can you install, hmm, cdcd |
| 15:34 | <Chutt> | i think it's called |
| 15:34 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cdcd ? Um, okay. |
| 15:34 | <Chutt> | and see if that's able to see the drive and play it? |
| 15:34 | -!- | yebyen [yebyen@gripz.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 15:34 | <Chutt> | it uses libcdaudio (which mythmusic uses for cddb lookups) |
| 15:34 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'm not sure regular CD playing works, as this is an Xbox. |
| 15:35 | <paulproteus|lapt> | xmms-cdread does work; I'll try cdcd. |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | well, i'm using libcdaudio _only_ for cddb lookups |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | and initial disc sensing and stuff |
| 15:35 | <paulproteus|lapt> | "I" is "mythmusic"? |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:35 | * paulproteus|lapt | grins at the idea that he's talking directly to the program |
| 15:35 | <Chutt> | i wrote all that junk, so i can say i :p |
| 15:35 | <paulproteus|lapt> | By the way, you rock. :) |
| 15:36 | <thor> | except for the bits that don't work very well |
| 15:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Oh, then I can ask you about this bug I have on Xbox when I get to it. |
| 15:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cdcd> play |
| 15:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | No disc in drive |
| 15:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Well, gee. |
| 15:36 | <Chutt> | that'd be it, then |
| 15:36 | <sfr> | so Chutt might not be a human? Now i know why it always answers "wheres the patch" to feature requests and such? |
| 15:36 | <thor> | always been a bit Eliza'ish |
| 15:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'm going to see what cdrecord says about the disc's TOC. |
| 15:37 | <paulproteus|lapt> | So, er, what if cdrecord and cdparanoia work, but libcdaudio doesn't? |
| 15:37 | <Chutt> | you're outta luck =) |
| 15:37 | * paulproteus|lapt | moans |
| 15:37 | <thor> | rip with cdparanaoia |
| 15:37 | <Chutt> | unless you can fix libcdaudio |
| 15:37 | <thor> | and tell mythmusic where you ripped to |
| 15:37 | <sfr> | Chutt, by submitting a patch, most likely ;-) |
| 15:37 | <paulproteus|lapt> | thor: Right, right. I could always rip them myself. |
| 15:38 | <Chutt> | but it's nice to have it internal |
| 15:38 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Very yes. |
| 15:38 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Especially since this is for my parents, not me. |
| 15:39 | <yebyen> | i need to get imap going |
| 15:39 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 15:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | libcdaudio. Time to hit Google. |
| 15:39 | <thor> | include search string "devfs" |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | libcdaudio.sf.net |
| 15:39 | <Chutt> | i believe |
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| 15:39 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Thor, I'll give cdcd the real CD device and see what it thinks. |
| 15:40 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt running debian stable? |
| 15:40 | <jkolb> | I have to doubt that it's a problem with devfs. devfs is required on Gentoo, and there are a lot of people running Gentoo Myth boxen. |
| 15:40 | * paulproteus|lapt | looks around stealthily |
| 15:40 | <thor> | ok |
| 15:40 | <paulproteus|lapt> | _Un_stable. |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | it's an issue in libcdaudio |
| 15:40 | <Chutt> | i bet |
| 15:41 | <thor> | mailing list post wouldn't hurt either, as someone may have seen this before |
| 15:41 | <paulproteus|lapt> | To the myth mailing list? |
| 15:41 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Or libcdaudi0? |
| 15:41 | <thor> | or both |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | libcdaudio's fairly dead |
| 15:41 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Yes. |
| 15:42 | * paulproteus|lapt | whines |
| 15:42 | <paulproteus|lapt> | (More like "moans", I guess.) |
| 15:43 | <yebyen> | does mythmusic have more than one vis now? |
| 15:43 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 15:43 | <paulproteus|lapt> | And libcdaudio seems fairly slightly broken. |
| 15:43 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I'll write up that ML post. Thanks, guys. |
| 15:43 | <thor> | yebyen, yup |
| 15:44 | <thor> | paulproteus|lapt, good luck |
| 15:44 | <jkolb> | Where do perror prints appear? |
| 15:44 | <thor> | on Chutt's computer |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | stderr |
| 15:45 | <jkolb> | Is that dependent on building DEBUG? |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | nope. |
| 15:47 | <jkolb> | paulproteus|lapt: Are there any messages on the console you ran mythfrontend from? (Did someone else already ask this and I missed it?) |
| 15:47 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay, libcdaudio's mailing lists have 5 posts (users) and 6 posts (devel). Ever. |
| 15:47 | <paulproteus|lapt> | jkolb: Let me check .xsession-errors |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | like i said, it's pretty much dead |
| 15:47 | <paulproteus|lapt> | <flood> |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | metadata.o: Your database is out of whack. This is not good. |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | playlist.o: This is either the first time you've run mythmusic while |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | connected to this database, or you haven't added a recent |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cvs.sql update, or something else entirely has gone horribly |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | wrong. |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | You may want to exit now and read musicdb/README. |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | playlist.o: This is either the first time you've run mythmusic while |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | connected to this database, or you haven't added a recent |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | cvs.sql update, or something else entirely has gone horribly |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | wrong. |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | You may want to exit now and read musicdb/README. |
| 15:48 | <paulproteus|lapt> | </flood> |
| 15:49 | <sfr> | paulproteus|lapt might try a dpkg --purge mythtv-music and install again? |
| 15:49 | <thor> | no, that's ok |
| 15:49 | * paulproteus|lapt | shrugs |
| 15:49 | <thor> | just no tracks |
| 15:49 | <sfr> | ah, ok. |
| 15:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I could try it, but I really think the problem is libcd4d10. |
| 15:49 | <paulproteus|lapt> | 4ud10, excuse me. |
| 15:50 | <yebyen> | thor: ooh |
| 15:50 | <thor> | ooh? |
| 15:50 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay, libcdaudio only has 5 messages, and they're all either blank or spam. |
| 15:50 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Ugh. |
| 15:51 | <jkolb> | Chutt: cd_init_device() and friends are the libcdaudio functions? |
| 15:51 | <yebyen> | thor: yeah, just reading now that you said there are multiple vis's... |
| 15:51 | <yebyen> | thor: any of them pretty and not-particularly-resource-intensive? |
| 15:51 | <yebyen> | hehe |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Ugh, ugh, ugh. |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | I have to make things clear: I didn't |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | write libcdaudio and I don't know how it works. All I did is |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | rewrite/reorganize parts of the cdcd program; what I did about |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | libcdaudio is to take the maintainership, but since I don't really |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | know libcdaudio, all I have done is only applying patches or tweaking |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | some parts of the code without understanding it all. |
| 15:52 | <paulproteus|lapt> | So says the libcdaudio maintainer. |
| 15:52 | * paulproteus|lapt | cries |
| 15:53 | <thor> | yebyen, Blank is minimum resources, Spectrum or MonoScope are ok |
| 15:53 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 15:59 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Waaa.... |
| 16:01 | <paulproteus|lapt> | -dev or -users ? |
| 16:02 | <thor> | probably -users ("Anyone else seen this problem") |
| 16:02 | <sfr> | don't know, but make sure NOT to send it to both lists. It's not appreciated. |
| 16:02 | <thor> | although -dev if ("Here's the code I'm planning to write to fix this") |
| 16:05 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Okay. Are most devs on users, too? I guess I'd accept guidance on how to fix it, but I have no experience with low-level CD stuff. |
| 16:05 | <paulproteus|lapt> | And I have to go. Thanks, everyone, again. |
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| 16:27 | <tdb30_> | humm.. seems like the computer locks up mostly when I rewind or fastforward.... |
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| 16:43 | <sfr> | Chutt ? |
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| 18:02 | <bahadunnwk> | hello all |
| 18:02 | <bahadunnwk> | I would like to use mythtv |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | I have a ati rage 128 all in wonder but I cant seem to get tvout or tvin to work |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | I have been to the gatos site |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | and done everything they have said to do as far as I can tell |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | at first I had some cxp something or other error |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | but I installed a new kernel |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | and it seems to have been fixed now |
| 18:03 | <bahadunnwk> | but I cant get it to work |
| 18:04 | <jkolb> | Yay bad storms. I just lost power. |
| 18:04 | <bahadunnwk> | can anyone please help me |
| 18:04 | <bahadunnwk> | I really would like to try mythtv out |
| 18:04 | <jkolb> | I suppose I should shut everything down. Later all. |
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| 18:08 | <thor> | bahadunnwk, http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo |
| 18:09 | <thor> | quote "All-In-Wonder cards WILL NOT work due to driver issues." |
| 18:09 | <bahadunnwk> | oh ok |
| 18:09 | <bahadunnwk> | any recommendations on some hardware that is compatible? |
| 18:09 | <thor> | the gatos driver is not V4L compliant |
| 18:10 | <vektor> | the driver just sucks, and the hardware is so limited |
| 18:10 | <bahadunnwk> | well to be honest the gatos driver seems to be a peice of crap |
| 18:10 | <bahadunnwk> | in my humble opinion |
| 18:10 | <vektor> | bahadunnwk: get any capture card with a bt878 chip, or get a PVR-250 maybe ? |
| 18:10 | <thor> | Hauppauge PVR 250 350 for hardware mpeg |
| 18:10 | <bahadunnwk> | and what about tv out? |
| 18:10 | <thor> | nvidia seems to cause the least problems |
| 18:10 | <tdb30_> | there is some utility somewhere to get tvout working on the older rage cards I think. |
| 18:11 | <bahadunnwk> | so there is no ati all in wonder that will work? |
| 18:11 | <tdb30_> | basicly ATI stinks and you should never buy one again ;) |
| 18:11 | <bahadunnwk> | what about a normal radeon with tv out that is not all in wonder |
| 18:11 | <tdb30_> | I got stuck with an ati card in my laptop and while gatos is like a bandaid letting me do some 3d stuff with it. I'd rather use the closed source but supported nvidia cards. |
| 18:12 | <thor> | if X works, you can turn TV-out on, and XVideo extension works, then you'll be fine for out |
| 18:12 | <tdb30_> | I think tvout works when you use vesa on the older ati cards. |
| 18:12 | <bahadunnwk> | I just ordered a gigabyte radeon 9000 pro |
| 18:12 | <bahadunnwk> | sigh |
| 18:12 | <bahadunnwk> | I thought ati had good support in linux |
| 18:13 | <tdb30_> | they have the worst |
| 18:13 | <bahadunnwk> | I thought they had open source drivers and all that stuff |
| 18:13 | <bahadunnwk> | well thats great |
| 18:13 | <thor> | if X works, you can turn TV-out on, and XVideo extension works, then you'll be fine for out |
| 18:13 | <tdb30_> | and they announced a week or so that what support they did have they are recinding and not supporting anymore |
| 18:13 | <bahadunnwk> | how do you turn tvout on |
| 18:13 | <bahadunnwk> | ? |
| 18:13 | <thor> | on a radeon 9000 pro? |
| 18:14 | <bahadunnwk> | yes and or on the rage 128 |
| 18:14 | <thor> | http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES3.html#10 |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | ATI has been reasonable about giving out specs, at least in many cases. |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | Better than some companies. |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | However, there aren't enough good developers, and the developers who have the specs aren't making progress quick enough, afaict anyway. |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | Like look at the GATOS project. |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | It's not for lack of specs, it's for lack of good driver authors. |
| 18:15 | <bahadunnwk> | yep |
| 18:15 | <vektor> | Although for some features it has been lack of specs too. |
| 18:16 | <vektor> | The ATI binary drivers are terrible from what I can tell. |
| 18:16 | <vektor> | Compared to the NVIDIA binary drivers, they seem pretty shameful. |
| 18:16 | <bahadunnwk> | so the radeon xfree driver will give 3d support? |
| 18:16 | <bahadunnwk> | I have tried xfree drivers before that claim they are accellorated and they dont do 3d suport |
| 18:16 | <vektor> | Yeah apparently, but I dunno how good it will be. |
| 18:16 | <vektor> | I mean, 3D support isn't like something you turn on or off. |
| 18:17 | <bahadunnwk> | k |
| 18:17 | <vektor> | You can have lots of varying degrees of goodness. |
| 18:17 | <bahadunnwk> | I guess I should have gotten an nvidia card |
| 18:17 | <bahadunnwk> | but |
| 18:17 | <vektor> | i.e., is the shader supported, is the blah supported, what about the blah GL extension, ... ... ... |
| 18:17 | <bahadunnwk> | im not impressed with the new fx series |
| 18:17 | <vektor> | 3D support is more than just 'does glxgears spin quickly'. |
| 18:18 | <thor> | myth runs very nicely on most older nvidia cards |
| 18:18 | <vektor> | Just avoid the TNT series. |
| 18:18 | <vektor> | and the TNT2 cards. |
| 18:18 | <bahadunnwk> | ok |
| 18:18 | <vektor> | and avoid any AGP chipset other than intel. |
| 18:18 | <bahadunnwk> | so get nvidia cards wtih tv out |
| 18:18 | <bahadunnwk> | and get a supported tv capture card |
| 18:18 | <bahadunnwk> | and im straight |
| 18:19 | <bahadunnwk> | ? |
| 18:19 | <thor> | well ... no guarantees =) but you're headed in the right direction |
| 18:19 | <vektor> | it's a good start, but don't be afraid to regret any purchase, of course. :-) |
| 18:19 | <thor> | any before you click "Buy", search the mailing lists for horror stories |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | true |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | I have lots of nvidia experience in linux |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | but I thought ati was better |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | I talked with some dudes in the debian channel |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | who were saying that the nvidia drivers suck |
| 18:20 | <bahadunnwk> | and the ati open source are much better |
| 18:20 | <thor> | myth doesn't care about 3D |
| 18:21 | <vektor> | there are tons of 'stories' and no real objective reviews. |
| 18:21 | <bahadunnwk> | I figured it woudln't |
| 18:21 | <vektor> | someone should really do a review site. |
| 18:21 | <thor> | it wants 2D/XVideo fast |
| 18:21 | <bahadunnwk> | but apparently for this ati card I need the 3d drivers to do tv out |
| 18:21 | <bahadunnwk> | or capture |
| 18:22 | <thor> | Chutt, you finished image caching already ? |
| 18:22 | <thor> | did you mow the lawn? |
| 18:23 | <bahadunnwk> | what is xvideo all about? |
| 18:23 | <bahadunnwk> | can you get xvideo without 3d support? |
| 18:23 | <thor> | yup |
| 18:23 | <bahadunnwk> | for instance I have a nvidia vanta card |
| 18:24 | <bahadunnwk> | that always locks up with the nvidia drivers |
| 18:24 | <bahadunnwk> | so I use the plain nv driver |
| 18:24 | <thor> | it let's hardware scale and blit the video around |
| 18:24 | <bahadunnwk> | which means xv is disabled |
| 18:24 | <bahadunnwk> | is there a way to get it to work like that? |
| 18:24 | <thor> | does it have TV out? |
| 18:24 | <bahadunnwk> | no it doesnt |
| 18:24 | <vektor> | the vanta card sucks. |
| 18:24 | <vektor> | it's a TNT |
| 18:25 | <bahadunnwk> | but for watching movies and stuff on the computer |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | it's terribly bandwidth limited |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | it can't downscale |
| 18:25 | <bahadunnwk> | maybe thats why it doesn't work with the nvidia drivers |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | it works horribly at high resolutions |
| 18:25 | <bahadunnwk> | I have also a geforce 2 gts which is fine |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | it always frustrates me how many of the users of my app have a TNT |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | since the card is so not powerful |
| 18:25 | <bahadunnwk> | ok |
| 18:25 | <bahadunnwk> | so I will stick to nvidia then |
| 18:26 | <bahadunnwk> | thanks for all the info guys |
| 18:26 | <tdb30_> | vektor you work on tvtime? |
| 18:26 | <bahadunnwk> | as usually if I have more questions I may ask in this channel? |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | tdb30_: tvtime is my app. |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | tdb30_: like, i wrote most of it. |
| 18:27 | <thor> | cool ... and ivtv driver, yes? |
| 18:27 | <vektor> | huh? |
| 18:27 | <thor> | vektor, don't you work on the ivtv driver ? |
| 18:28 | <vektor> | no |
| 18:28 | <thor> | hmmmm |
| 18:28 | <thor> | no I'm confused |
| 18:28 | <vektor> | but i have a pvr-250 now |
| 18:28 | <thor> | now |
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| 18:28 | <vektor> | tmk did the ivtv driver |
| 18:28 | <thor> | ah yes |
| 18:28 | <thor> | that sounds familiar |
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| 20:00 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Quick question: Does anyone have any experience with a V4L USB tuner? |
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| 20:23 | <DaveAlden> | hi -- is there anyone out there with an opinion on mythvideo coverfiles? |
| 20:28 | <bline> | yeah |
| 20:28 | <DaveAlden> | cool -- what is it? I'm more than willing to implement this in whatever way people want, the problem is coming to a consesus. :-) |
| 20:29 | <bline> | currently they are stored in ~/.mythtv/MythVideo, correct? |
| 20:30 | <bline> | these are the ones that come from indb |
| 20:31 | <DaveAlden> | correct -- I don't know if you are aware, but I made a (nice and small) patch that checks to see if a ".<movie>" file exists and use that as a cover. Some people don't seem to like that...:-) |
| 20:31 | <bline> | why not just make an entry in the DB for the image in ~/.mythtv/MythVideo even if it's not found in indb? |
| 20:33 | <DaveAlden> | sorry, I'm confused...what I was looking to do was to check to see if the user already stored a copy of the coverfile somewhere (I don't like the files from imdb) and use it... |
| 20:34 | <DaveAlden> | I originally looked in the MythVideo directory, but as Isaac pointed out, it makes more sense to look where the movie is stored...now the issue seems to be what to call the coverfile. |
| 20:34 | <bline> | can't you just replace the files in ~/.mythtv/MythVideo? |
| 20:35 | <DaveAlden> | Yeah, but why even go there -- I know I'd rather have them in the movie directory -- that way I can see them if I'm on a client front-end and using NFS to get the movies (but not the same ~/.mythtv directory) |
| 20:36 | <bline> | well if you are going to put them in the move directory, I'd say use a subdirectory called covers |
| 20:36 | <bline> | and ignore that in the movie listings |
| 20:36 | <DaveAlden> | I thought about that, along with naming it "<movie>.cover" (or such), but they all have other drawbacks... |
| 20:36 | <paulproteus|lapt> | Quick, implement it before other people have a chance to tell you how to do it! |
| 20:37 | <paulproteus|lapt> | ;) |
| 20:37 | <DaveAlden> | There's already an issue with ignoring "non-movies" -- it doesn't do it. :-) I'd rather not write the patch that has it check to see if the file is a movie or not...:-) |
| 20:37 | <DaveAlden> | (yes, paulproteus|lapt -- you're right :-) |
| 20:37 | <bline> | Well, I'd perfer the covers be in a different place |
| 20:37 | <DaveAlden> | I guess I was hoping to get a consensus from "the people who count"...:-) |
| 20:38 | <bline> | maybe have a configurable directory for them |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | i'd still say just strip the extension off the video file |
| 20:38 | <DaveAlden> | I wouldn't mind that -- the problem then comes up of modifying mythvideo to ignore that directory... |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | and look for .png or .jpg or .gif |
| 20:38 | <bline> | finially, the people that count speak up ;) |
| 20:39 | <DaveAlden> | Cool -- I can do that. Would you like me to modify mythvideo so that it doesn't show the coverfile in the "browse movies"? (Currently it would). |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | i'd just store a list of extensions that are movie files somewhere and match against that |
| 20:40 | <DaveAlden> | ok -- somewhere I got the list of acceptable image types for QT -- I'll go hunt it down again. :-) |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | it's something like QImage::imageTypeList() |
| 20:40 | <Chutt> | inputFormatList() |
| 20:40 | <DaveAlden> | cool -- thanks. I guess I'd better get busy coding. :-) |
| 20:41 | <DaveAlden> | btw, is it ok to assume that the user named the file <moviename>.<extension> -- meaning that I just do a reverse search for the first period? |
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| 21:06 | <Chutt> | check out the QFileInfo class -- http://doc.trolltech.com/3.1/qfileinfo.html |
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| 21:47 | <Captain_Murdoch> | Chutt: you around? |
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| 21:59 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:00 | <Captain_Murdoch> | check out this addition to the playbackbox. :) http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/playback-1.jpg and http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/playback-2.jpg |
| 22:01 | <Captain_Murdoch> | images that turn on/off indicating whether there's a cutlist, autoexpire on/off, and commercials flagged. |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | yeah, very cool |
| 22:02 | <Captain_Murdoch> | cheesy images right now but theme designers could do their own. they're optional anyway. |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 22:03 | <bline> | that is nice |
| 22:03 | <Captain_Murdoch> | anything else that might make sense to put there? |
| 22:04 | <bline> | transcoding? |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | is that running over vnc or whatever you usually do? |
| 22:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | thought about that, but could just have 1 indicator that indicates a sort of "in use" for commercial flagging or transcoding. I don't remember if the transcode code sets the "processing" flag or not. |
| 22:05 | <Chutt> | you need to install the microsoft fonts and make sure you're running at a dpy of 100x100 =) |
| 22:05 | <Captain_Murdoch> | nah, that's an "import" running on my main dev machine. I haven't had to use the remote thing since I upgraded the distribution on my laptop. :) |
| 22:06 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah, haven't got around to those. need to look at doing that anyway cause my wife needs some of the fonts on her machine as well. I converted her to Linux from Win98 about 6 months ago. :) |
| 22:07 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I run the gui at 800x600 to develop while X runs at 1280x1024 |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | that's what i do, except i'm running at 1280x960 like sane people do =) |
| 22:08 | <Captain_Murdoch> | that extra 64 is for my fvwm buttonbar. :) |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | basically, if you grab the ms fonts and switch to 100x100, your fonts will be bigger and not look all crappy |
| 22:09 | <bline> | how do you switch to 100x100? |
| 22:09 | <thor> | Captain_Murdoch, look snice |
| 22:09 | <Chutt> | it's an option when you run x |
| 22:09 | <bline> | ahh, there is no config option then |
| 22:09 | <thor> | bline, you can set your display size inside XF86Config |
| 22:10 | <bline> | thor: yeah, that's what I ended up doing but it was a hit/miss thing |
| 22:10 | <bline> | I ended up with a strange value to get 100x100 |
| 22:10 | <bline> | thor: hows the dvd stuff coming? |
| 22:10 | <Chutt> | exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp |
| 22:11 | <Chutt> | from my xserverrc |
| 22:11 | <thor> | or that |
| 22:11 | <thor> | dvd stuff is trundling along |
| 22:11 | <thor> | you can launch the mtd from the ripping screen ... not that it does much |
| 22:11 | <bline> | if you need anyone to test, I'd be happy to |
| 22:11 | <thor> | I'm just slow |
| 22:11 | <bline> | you using libdvdread? |
| 22:12 | <thor> | wrong tense, but yeah |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | well, you're using transcode, which uses libdvdread, right |
| 22:12 | <Chutt> | ? |
| 22:12 | <thor> | again, wrong verb tense, but I think I'll be using just libdvdread to ship jobs to the mtd |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 22:13 | <bline> | I found ogle to be a nice dvd player for nav with a remote and stuff |
| 22:13 | <thor> | and the mtd will be gradually eating more and more of transcode |
| 22:13 | <thor> | ogle is much nicer than Mplayer in my experience |
| 22:13 | <thor> | player is already configurable |
| 22:13 | <Chutt> | any reason it can't just exec transcode and grab any status info from its stdout/stderr? |
| 22:14 | <bline> | yeah, and the nav is mappable so I was able to work it into my remote layout |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | seems like it'd be simplest |
| 22:14 | <thor> | in the beginning it is (will be) not doing much more than that |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | i _was_ thinking, it really wouldn't be all that difficult to make a native dvd player |
| 22:14 | <Chutt> | what with libdvdread/nav/etc |
| 22:15 | <Chutt> | if someone else is looking for a project =) |
| 22:15 | <thor> | not exactly on my todo list |
| 22:15 | <bline> | I actually looked into that a week ago or so, but then thor started on the dvd plugin |
| 22:16 | <Chutt> | be nice as it'd use the same osd and keybindings and stuff |
| 22:16 | <thor> | it would be great |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | no time =) |
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| 22:17 | <thor> | yup |
| 22:17 | <thor> | ogle/mplayer/xine will do |
| 22:17 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 22:17 | <thor> | and people can map the keys |
| 22:18 | <thor> | in the .whatereverrc |
| 22:18 | <thor> | wholly crap myth takes a long time to build |
| 22:20 | <Chutt> | heh, what, you update your cvs checkout and need to do a clean build? |
| 22:21 | <thor> | for a little one line change of my own that I wanted to commit |
| 22:22 | <thor> | while I'm at it, I'm commenting out two unused variable (bgcolor and fgcolor) in mythcontext.cpp |
| 22:22 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 22:22 | <Chutt> | just remove em |
| 22:23 | <Chutt> | that's what cvs is there for =) |
| 22:23 | <thor> | k |
| 22:26 | <thor> | Chutt, some reason why the library is still version 0.10 ? |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | i was lazy |
| 22:27 | <Chutt> | and still am |
| 22:27 | <thor> | k |
| 22:27 | <bline> | just tried the new transcode stuff |
| 22:27 | <Captain_Murdoch> | and it keeps people on the mailing lists from saying they're running v0.11 already |
| 22:27 | <bline> | its got no sound now heh |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | bline, didn't the guy say it doesn't work so well on mpeg encodes? |
| 22:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I installed the msfonts rpm, I'll take a look at 100dpi sometime. |
| 22:28 | <bline> | Chutt: he said he hadn't tried it I thought |
| 22:28 | <Captain_Murdoch> | gotta run out for a few. |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, run qtconfig and make sure you've got the 'enable aa fonts' options turned on and stuff, too |
| 22:28 | <Chutt> | bline, yeah, that's right |
| 22:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | yeah but the new ones don't show up in xlsfonts for some reason. I'll play with it later. gotta run. |
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