00:08 | <thor> | blow_core, looping on any audio access (xmms, etc.)? |
00:09 | <blow_core> | Yes. It had the same IRQ as the network card. Trying without the network card now. |
00:09 | <thor> | ah ... fiddle with BIOS? |
00:11 | <blow_core> | Well, no, I took the card out and was trying the onboard one, but that thing is a POS ... This BIOS doesn't give me much control over it either. Let me try moving things around a bit. |
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00:12 | <blow_core> | Check that. It still does it with the sound card only on that interupt ... Thoughts? |
00:12 | <thor> | lspci? |
00:13 | <thor> | lspci -v shows sound "card" has its own interrupt? |
00:14 | <blow_core> | I dunno, but `cat /proc/pci does`. Let me check lspci. |
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00:15 | <thor> | if alsa, try OSS. If OSS, try alsa ... |
00:15 | <blow_core> | Yes. It's the only thing on IRQ 18 |
00:15 | <blow_core> | It's oss right now. Where can I find a good "this is how to set up alsa, without all the fluff" article? I've never used alsa before. |
00:16 | <thor> | only times I've done, it's by following along at the alsa homepage |
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00:18 | <lunk> | anyone awake this late? |
00:18 | <blow_core> | Gotcha. Ok, I'll be back in a bit |
00:19 | <lunk> | mythweather seems to continually timeout, i can pull up msnbc.com weather with my browser just fine |
00:19 | <lunk> | :/ |
00:19 | <thor> | lunk, this is recently fixed in CVS |
00:20 | <thor> | last 24 hours or so ... |
00:21 | <lunk> | doh |
00:21 | <lunk> | well, i don't have time to mess with that tonight |
00:21 | <lunk> | thanks for all your hard work guys, i really like the new version |
00:21 | <lunk> | sleep tight |
00:23 | <lunk> | is there a link to a aptch? |
00:23 | <lunk> | :D |
00:24 | <thor> | have you got source code for mythweather, or just binaries? |
00:25 | <lunk> | source |
00:25 | <lunk> | heh, it's one change |
00:25 | <thor> | yup |
00:25 | <thor> | just the usec() |
00:26 | <thor> | usleep |
00:26 | <lunk> | haha, humans > machines once again |
00:28 | <lunk> | sweeet |
00:28 | <thor> | working? |
00:28 | <lunk> | yup |
00:28 | <thor> | good |
00:28 | <lunk> | is there a motion map in the works? |
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00:29 | <thor> | hmmm ... not that I know of |
00:30 | <lunk> | would be pretty easy to do, maybe i'll hax0r something in to save the last n pictures or something |
00:30 | <lunk> | but, must let the subconcious work on that problem... |
00:30 | <lunk> | `night |
00:30 | <thor> | night |
00:30 | <Timon> | Hey thor |
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00:30 | <thor> | hey, got your lcddevice.cpp stuff |
00:31 | <Timon> | good deal |
00:31 | <thor> | but been awfully busy with MythDVD |
00:31 | <Timon> | I'm not trying to pester you with it |
00:31 | <thor> | ... |
00:31 | <Timon> | Thats cool |
00:31 | <Timon> | Take your time man. I believe the problem is with the socket stuff |
00:31 | <thor> | very odd it doesn't work for you though ... |
00:31 | <Timon> | Agreed |
00:31 | <thor> | telnet localhost 13666 is fine, right? |
00:32 | <Timon> | yup |
00:32 | <Timon> | # telnet localhost 13666 |
00:32 | <Timon> | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
00:32 | <Timon> | Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1). |
00:32 | <Timon> | Escape character is '^]'. |
00:32 | <Timon> | hello |
00:32 | <Timon> | connect LCDproc CVS-stable-0-4-4-20021022 protocol 0.3 lcd wid 20 hgt 4 cellwid 6 cellhgt 8 |
00:32 | <thor> | hmmm |
00:33 | <thor> | have you tried the standalone lcd program in myth tree? |
00:33 | <Timon> | Yup |
00:33 | <thor> | nothing? |
00:33 | <Timon> | Thats where I started first. It doesn't work either |
00:34 | <Timon> | I'm running QT 3.1.1 |
00:35 | <thor> | did you try to define #DEBUG_LCD (or whatever I put in there)? |
00:35 | <Timon> | yup |
00:35 | <thor> | nothing ? |
00:36 | <Timon> | I get more debug stuff, but no connection |
00:37 | <thor> | you're sure the ./configure'd --with-lcd libmyth is gettings installed ? |
00:37 | <Timon> | yup |
00:37 | <thor> | ... I'm running out of ideas ... |
00:37 | <Timon> | ./configure --BUILD_LCD=yes |
00:37 | <thor> | uhm, no |
00:38 | <Timon> | ? |
00:38 | <thor> | ./configure --enable-lcd |
00:38 | <Timon> | Argh |
00:39 | <thor> | (had to look that up) |
00:39 | <Timon> | I shouldn't have to make clean after I do that should I? |
00:39 | <thor> | hmmm .. try without first |
00:39 | <Chutt> | make clean in libmyth |
00:39 | <Timon> | k |
00:40 | <thor> | (me thinks Timon is only a few minutes away from an LCD display) |
00:41 | <Timon> | I hope so! |
00:41 | <Timon> | I got the CWLinux one with up/down/left/right enter/cancel |
00:41 | <thor> | ah ... good ... you can write the code to make those buttons do something ! |
00:41 | <Timon> | heheh :-) |
00:41 | <thor> | that would be cool |
00:42 | <Timon> | Yeah, thats actually why I got that one. Didn't want the wife to have to run on the tv to select her music |
00:42 | <thor> | yup |
00:43 | <bbeattie> | Um, is the default action of channel changing like this: if a user slects a channel (ie 42) it pauses the current live-tv, checks to see if channel 42 is in database, if not, it unpauses the current feed and continues playing it. (Basically it won't change to the channel if it doesn't exist in the database? |
00:43 | <Timon> | Getting the keys working is my next step, I was thinking the easiest way is to use lircin and have it basicly talk to irxevent and do its mojo that way. |
00:43 | <Timon> | woot! |
00:43 | <Timon> | That was it thor! |
00:43 | <thor> | yeah! |
00:44 | <thor> | You can use the existing lcdproc to get keypresses |
00:44 | <Timon> | Now I need to turn off all that debug. |
00:44 | <thor> | there's even some comments in the code about how people with lcd's that have buttons might want to insert code "here" |
00:44 | <Timon> | yeah, thats how I'm going to go about it. its got something called lircin which takes the key presses and pushes them to lirc |
00:45 | <thor> | I'd just take them right in from the LCD object in libmyth |
00:45 | <Chutt> | and pass em to the main window |
00:45 | <Chutt> | which'll send em along down, i think |
00:45 | <thor> | yup |
00:46 | <Chutt> | bbeattie, yes |
00:46 | <Timon> | Ok, that would work great then. |
00:46 | <thor> | might be as simple as generate keyPressEvent() |
00:47 | <Timon> | I was going to ask if there was a way to syntheticly fire a keypressEvent |
00:48 | <thor> | uhm, well you can create an event object .... and then ... uhm ... |
00:48 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: I hit that at one point, but currently the card is set to channel 42 (not in database) if I enter any channel, in or out of the database, the stream pauses for a moment, but then returns to channel 42. It appears the channel is not getting set for the HDTV portion, however, all the channel information is correct, as it uses ntsc-bcast even in my getatsc program to dump the HDTV stream for a channel.. hmm. |
00:48 | <Chutt> | is it completely correct in the db? |
00:48 | <Chutt> | as it does a join between the capturecard, cardinput, and channel tables |
00:48 | <Chutt> | i believe |
00:48 | <thor> | ... QApplication::sendEvent() |
00:49 | <thor> | or something like that |
00:49 | <Timon> | Cool, thanks thor! |
00:49 | <thor> | good luck |
00:49 | <Chutt> | how goes the dvd stuff? |
00:49 | <Timon> | If all goes well, I hope to have a patch soon. |
00:50 | <Timon> | Thanks! |
00:50 | <thor> | Chutt, it goes ... |
00:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
00:50 | <thor> | hang on, I'll post a screen shot |
00:50 | <Timon> | Is it a full standalone dvd player, or does it use xine or mplayer? |
00:51 | <thor> | wrapper for player (mplayer, whatever), but a ripper as well |
00:51 | <Timon> | Good deal! |
00:53 | <thor> | http://www.sigvaldason.com/mythdvd_tease.png |
00:53 | <thor> | made up transcoding jobs |
00:53 | <thor> | but they're running on the mtd |
00:53 | <thor> | and you can go off, do other things, come back and see where their at |
00:53 | <thor> | they're at |
00:54 | <Timon> | looks good! |
00:54 | <thor> | , launch a new one, etc |
00:54 | <Timon> | Can you schedule it? Have it run in the bg while you watch tv/play music/etc? |
00:55 | <thor> | idea is that you ask it to rip and transcode, and it only does work when the machine is otherwise idle |
00:55 | <thor> | so yeah |
00:55 | <blow_core> | That is cool. Can't wait to get my hands on it. |
00:55 | <thor> | do not hold your breath |
00:55 | <thor> | I'm slow |
00:55 | <thor> | =) |
00:55 | <Timon> | Does it detect if things are up and comming and account for it? Or does it nice itself? |
00:55 | <bbeattie> | Channel: '' was not found in the database \n Most likely, the default channel set for this input Couldn't find any channels in the database, please make sure..... any simple way of disabling this check? |
00:55 | <Timon> | Its looking good thor! |
00:56 | <blow_core> | That's ok thor. Maybe I'll have sound by the time you get done ;) |
00:57 | <thor> | Timon, it *will* ask the mythbackend (if there is one on the same box) what's coming up, yes ... and then pause out the subjobs/threads until things free up ... could take a wekk to transcode something. |
00:57 | <thor> | anyway, still bits and pieces ... but it's coming |
00:58 | <Timon> | why not have it nice and just run in the spare cycles during an encoding/watch live tv/etc? |
00:58 | <thor> | fighting over drivespace, mostly |
00:59 | <thor> | access |
00:59 | <Timon> | Ahhh, ok |
00:59 | <Timon> | io contention |
00:59 | <thor> | probably be configurable ... it's still coming together |
01:01 | <Timon> | thor: you have a 2line or 4 line lcd? |
01:04 | <thor> | 2 line |
01:04 | <Timon> | Ok |
01:04 | <thor> | output a bit wonky on yours? |
01:05 | <thor> | (4 line?) |
01:05 | <Timon> | No, just the menu you only see two lines: MYTHTV-SETUP\rGeneral |
01:05 | <Timon> | 4 x 20 |
01:05 | <thor> | ah, that still works ... cool |
01:05 | <thor> | I haven't touched that code in 6 moths |
01:05 | <thor> | months |
01:06 | <Timon> | If I get around to it/get bothered enough I'll have it display three lines of menu on a 4 line display |
01:06 | <thor> | not hard to do .. object already knows the size of the display |
01:06 | <Timon> | But I've still got my embedded controller I want to play with more |
01:06 | <thor> | yup |
01:06 | <Timon> | Yeah, I saw that stuff in there. |
01:07 | <thor> | only thing I really use it for is that with ntp running the living room mythbox is the most accurate clock in the house |
01:07 | <Timon> | hahah |
01:07 | <Timon> | You have a link handy to the lcdproc manual? |
01:08 | <thor> | lcdproc is badly documented |
01:08 | <thor> | what I found was by poking around in the example applications |
01:08 | <Timon> | I'm trying to figure out how to force it to clear the screen |
01:08 | <thor> | delete all widgets |
01:08 | <Timon> | there is a 5 or 6 pixel line in the lower left hand corner on my display |
01:08 | <Timon> | Thats a really stupid way. |
01:09 | <Timon> | (Not directed at you thor) |
01:09 | <thor> | best thing to do is to find an example app that does what you want |
01:09 | <thor> | and works properly |
01:10 | <thor> | and then step through it to figure out what it does |
01:10 | <Timon> | yeah |
01:10 | <thor> | mind you, documentation may have improved in the intervening 6 months |
01:10 | <thor> | I dunno |
01:10 | <Timon> | it hasn't |
01:10 | <Timon> | no update since 11/21/02 |
01:10 | <thor> | ah |
01:14 | <blow_core> | From bad to worse. oss played looping sound, alsa doesn't play anything (and yeah, I ran the mixer and turned everything up) |
01:16 | <blow_core> | Ah well. Thanks again for the help folks. I may try a different sound card in here -- If I can figure out where to put it. |
01:16 | <blow_core> | G'nite. |
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01:21 | <bbeattie> | well, I need sleep. |
01:21 | <bbeattie> | 'night |
01:25 | <Timon> | thor, I found a list of functions in server/client_functions.c |
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02:41 | <phar0e_> | what goes on after a show is over? CPU is still 33% in use by Mythbackend for a while afterwards |
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03:22 | <fulbert> | my frontend is locking when I try to play or delete recordings, can anyone suggest ideas? |
03:24 | <KikoV> | Is there a Changelog of MythTV development? |
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09:19 | <KikoV> | is there a Changelog? |
09:20 | <KikoV> | mdz, why don't you upload debian directory to the CVS server? |
09:20 | <KikoV> | is Isaac against this? |
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10:10 | <mdz_> | KikoV: I don't really want to support people trying to build debs from CVS |
10:12 | <KikoV> | ouch.... |
10:12 | <KikoV> | well.. thx |
10:12 | <KikoV> | anyway |
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10:14 | <KikoV> | mdz_, is the package itself gpl too? |
10:14 | <mdz_> | KikoV: yes |
10:15 | <mdz_> | also, Isaac does not want binaries built from CVS to be distributed |
10:15 | <KikoV> | isaac doesn't want a lot of things xDDD |
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10:16 | <KikoV> | isaac doesn't want wikis, cvs binaries, uncontrol... |
10:18 | * Peit|work | happens to agree with isaac, wiki's are evil, and CVS is for developement, (the fact that gentoo has a mythcvs package is ancillary |
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10:19 | <TheAsp> | Is channel.channum supposed to be the channel's number or callsign these days? |
10:20 | <Peit|work> | it's the number selected by the change channel command |
10:20 | <Peit|work> | so for me in .uk on ntl, channel.channum=1 is channel 1 |
10:20 | <Peit|work> | (bbc1) |
10:20 | <Peit|work> | if that made any sense |
10:20 | <TheAsp> | ok |
10:21 | <TheAsp> | i have ones with the channel number |
10:21 | <TheAsp> | and some with the callsign |
10:21 | <TheAsp> | and my guidegrid is all messed up because of that |
10:21 | <KikoV> | Peit|work: I want to have debian facilities in the development... |
10:21 | <KikoV> | Peit|work: i neither don't like wikis at all |
10:22 | <bline> | Peit|work: there is no official mythtv ebuild... |
10:22 | <bline> | cvs ebuild I mean |
10:22 | <jkolb> | bline: I was just about to correct you on that. |
10:23 | <bline> | jkolb: :) |
10:23 | <Peit|work> | bline: yeah, sorry should have specified there isn't an official version, i should know better *thwaps self* |
10:24 | * Peit|work | wonders who committed the mythtv ebuild |
10:26 | <jkolb> | Hm. Maybe there isn't an official mythtv ebuild of any kind. It's not in the online package db under media-video or media-tv. I could have sworn I've seen it, though. |
10:27 | <bline> | jkolb: I have it here, it's in media-tv; maybe you need to emerge rsync |
10:27 | <jkolb> | I was just checking that. It's not listed at http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/media-tv/index.xml though. |
10:27 | <bline> | well it was on the rsync server I used.. dunno |
10:28 | * jkolb | shrugs |
10:28 | <bline> | I don't use it anyway, I compile cvs |
10:28 | <jkolb> | Yup, it's in my local portage tree. |
10:28 | <jkolb> | Yeah, me too. |
10:28 | <bline> | yeah, I wrote my own mythtv-cvs ebuild |
10:28 | <jkolb> | I edited one that got posted to the list. |
10:29 | <bline> | my local portage tree is getting big, everytime I want to install something not in portage I write an ebuild |
10:30 | <jkolb> | I haven't needed to do that just yet. Everything I want either has a genuine ebuild or I've found one at b.g.o |
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10:42 | <Peit|work> | it's not on the package index, as that only indexes x86, not ~x86 or any other arch, although i should expand it to do that |
10:42 | <Peit|work> | but that would get _really_ confusing |
10:42 | <jkolb> | Oh, is Myth ~x86? |
10:43 | <Peit|work> | it's also linked to the portage database on the machine its running, so if that hasn't run emerg sync recently.. |
10:43 | <Peit|work> | jkolb: yeah, ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge media-tv/mythtv |
10:43 | <Peit|work> | iirc |
10:44 | <bline> | confirmed |
10:44 | <jkolb> | I have ~x86 in my make.conf |
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10:45 | <Chutt> | heh, up until yesterday, the gentoo ebuild was building without any x86 opts |
10:45 | <Chutt> | rather funny =) |
10:46 | <Peit|work> | what do you mean Chutt? |
10:46 | <Chutt> | the guy was specifying an invalid cpu type to configure |
10:46 | <Chutt> | so it wasn't building with x86 opts |
10:46 | <Peit|work> | heh, yeah, noticed that |
10:46 | <Peit|work> | would explain why my CPU usage was a little high |
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10:49 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: How we doing today? |
10:51 | <Chutt> | i haven't checked my email at all |
10:52 | <Snow-Man> | SE's servers aren't doing stupid stuff as much now. |
10:52 | <rkulagow_> | snow-man: i haven't gotten any mythtv-dev messages in quite a while... |
10:52 | <Snow-Man> | What's your address? |
10:52 | <rkulagow_> | bob@smalltime.com |
10:52 | <Snow-Man> | How long is 'quite a while'? |
10:53 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: does mythtv probe for channels via tuner cards? or does it go by xmltv's data? |
10:53 | <Snow-Man> | Jul 22 10:52:47 colo sm-mta-mqueue[27084]: h6MEo34K026912: to=<bob@smalltime.com>, delay=00:02:09, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=3146483, relay=mail.smalltime.com. [64.81.243.147], dsn=2.0.0, stat=S |
10:53 | <Snow-Man> | ent (Ok: queued as 2F7304B955) |
10:53 | <Chutt> | it goes by what's in the database, no probing |
10:55 | <rkulagow_> | lets see: "new mythweb" by isaac on 7/21/2003 4:42 PM is the last message i got in mythtv-dev |
10:55 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: what's the easiest way to manually add chennels for testing, a mysql database viewer? |
10:55 | <Chutt> | probably, yeah |
10:55 | <dja> | Snow-Man: is that mythth-dev or mythtv-users? I too haven't seen anything on -dev, but I was assuming everyone was tired of talking :-) |
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10:55 | <dja> | (I should say I haven't seen anything since yesterday afternoon :-) |
10:55 | <rkulagow_> | i've got plenty of stuff coming into -users. |
10:56 | <TheAsp> | ah, channels are fixed |
10:56 | <TheAsp> | did the number of fields for programinfo change in the last week? |
10:56 | <Snow-Man> | Well, the last message the mailing list sent out to -dev was: |
10:56 | <Snow-Man> | Jul 21 17:44:00 2003 (4936) post to mythtv-dev from ijr@po.cwru.edu, size=4542, message-id=<20030721 |
10:56 | <Snow-Man> | 1742.43326.ijr@po.cwru.edu>, success |
10:58 | <rkulagow_> | well, that's the last one i got, so i guess -dev is just abnormally quiet or something. |
10:58 | <Chutt> | people use -users for everything |
10:59 | <Snow-Man> | Ain't much I can do about that. :) |
11:01 | <dja> | has anyone else had problems with mythvideo freezing on occasion when going to imdb? (Yes, I'm in the process of recompiling with debug turned on) |
11:07 | <mdz_> | KikoV: why do you want packages for cvs? |
11:08 | <KikoV> | mdz_, to install and deinstall cleanly when developing |
11:09 | <KikoV> | mdz_, I want to include a hw mpeg decoder... |
11:09 | <Chutt> | rm -f /usr/local/bin/myth* |
11:09 | <Chutt> | rm -f /usr/local/share/mythtv |
11:09 | <Chutt> | rm -f /usr/local/lib/mythtv |
11:09 | <Chutt> | rm -f /usr/local/include/mythtv |
11:09 | <Chutt> | there, deinstalled cleanly :p |
11:10 | <Chutt> | oh, libmyth* in /usr/local/lib, too |
11:10 | <KikoV> | Chutt: very clean... |
11:11 | <Chutt> | write a shell script |
11:11 | <KikoV> | hehe LOL |
11:11 | <Chutt> | hell, i think 'make uninstall' works |
11:11 | <KikoV> | ppl is very found here ;) |
11:11 | <Peit|work> | use gentoo :) emerge -C |
11:11 | <Peit|work> | sorry, ignore me, i'm bibbling |
11:11 | <KikoV> | Peit|work: I would like to use gentoo... but I don't want to install there ( 5 days compiling... ) |
11:11 | <KikoV> | s/found/fond |
11:20 | <Snow-Man> | dpkg --purge. |
11:23 | <KikoV> | Snow-Man: hehe, I know... we're arguing about uploading debian/* dirs to let ppl make their own packages... |
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11:24 | <Chutt> | mdz doesn't want the debian dirs in cvs |
11:24 | <Chutt> | you're free to download the diffs and create your own |
11:25 | <lunk> | KikoV: if it takes five days, that system is probably too slow to run myth anyway ;) |
11:26 | <KikoV> | lunk: ... well... With a PVR-350, encoding is 3% cpu |
11:26 | <KikoV> | lunk: the mythtv decoder is slow... ( 3 or 4 times the mplayer one ) |
11:26 | <KikoV> | mplayer without using mpeg decoder from PVR-350 or from the via... ( two decoder in the same system )... |
11:27 | <Chutt> | um |
11:27 | <KikoV> | so... I want to implement the mpeg decoder support in the mythtv... |
11:27 | <Chutt> | mythtv's decoder is using the exact same code mplayer is. |
11:27 | <Chutt> | funnily enough, it's the exact same speed |
11:27 | <KikoV> | Chutt: well... then I don't know what the difference it... |
11:27 | <KikoV> | Chutt: but mythtv can't show TV, and mplayer with the same datafile ( .nuv ) go well |
11:28 | <Chutt> | in fact, the current code in cvs is faster than mplayer for mpeg2 |
11:28 | <KikoV> | so... the problem could be the xv code... |
11:28 | <KikoV> | I think the epia M9000 can work perfecly if it's well done... |
11:28 | <Chutt> | how are you going to implement the decoder support when neither of those decoders have any linux support? :p |
11:29 | <KikoV> | Good X drivers, mpeg decoder support, so... |
11:29 | <KikoV> | Chutt: http://www.vectory.com/~nfogh/via_mpeg2_api.pdf |
11:29 | <mdz_> | KikoV: you can use the Debian packaging if you want; it's GPL |
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11:30 | <mdz_> | KikoV: but don't expect me to keep it up to date with CVS |
11:30 | <KikoV> | mdz_, ok.. |
11:30 | <mdz_> | I'm not going to rush to update it whenever something changes that necessitates a packaging change |
11:30 | <KikoV> | mdz_ I don't want to disturb anybody... |
11:30 | <mdz_> | nor am I going to listen to complaints when it breaks |
11:30 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: last night when I was looking through the channel code, I didn't see any code regarding checking for the channel in the database, is it in 1 other location, or several? |
11:30 | <Chutt> | tv_rec.cpp |
11:30 | <Chutt> | near the bottom |
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11:32 | <KikoV> | mdz_: why do you think that ppl is going to disturb you if you upload the debian...? |
11:32 | <Chutt> | read the mailing list. |
11:33 | <Chutt> | he's posted why he doesn't like debian/ dirs in cvs twice now |
11:33 | <Snow-Man> | Or just shut up. |
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12:04 | <bbeattie> | Chutt: Thanks. |
12:08 | <Chutt> | figured it out? |
12:09 | <bbeattie> | no, at work, but I can now ponder durring space cycles. |
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12:38 | <Thexder-> | Anyone with a PVR-250 with the ivtv driver getting not enough buffer errors? |
12:43 | <extremis> | Chutt: I'm not sure if you saw my crash question yesterday, but I was responding to tell you I fixed the mythweb problem (mysql couldn't write to tmp) but I'm still having other issues: |
12:43 | <extremis> | External channel change: /usr/local/bin/channel.pl 122 |
12:43 | <extremis> | DVB-s is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput. |
12:43 | <extremis> | roadrunner is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput. |
12:43 | <extremis> | Local Broadcast is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput. |
12:43 | <extremis> | invalid cardid -1 |
12:43 | <extremis> | mythbackend crashes |
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12:43 | <extremis> | there is one other input defined and it is attached |
12:43 | <Chutt> | you didn't set things up at all right |
12:43 | <extremis> | and it contains channel 122 |
12:44 | <extremis> | Chutt: whatcha talkin bout? |
12:44 | <Chutt> | those errors |
12:44 | <extremis> | the 3 aren't errors |
12:44 | <extremis> | but warnings |
12:45 | <extremis> | it says in your docs to define every connection even if it isn't attached |
12:45 | <extremis> | I will be attaching those soon |
12:45 | * KikoV | is away: I'm busy |
12:46 | <extremis> | phpmyadmin kicks butt |
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12:47 | <extremis> | the last one I think is what causes it to crash |
12:47 | <extremis> | I can't find a cardid of -1 in the db though |
12:47 | <extremis> | Delete |
12:47 | <extremis> | 1 |
12:47 | <extremis> | 1 |
12:47 | <extremis> | 1 |
12:47 | <extremis> | S-Video 0 |
12:47 | <extremis> | NULL |
12:48 | <extremis> | N |
12:48 | <extremis> | Â |
12:48 | <extremis> | 122 |
12:48 | <extremis> | |
12:48 | <Chutt> | cardid of -1 means you've got an input that's not attached to a card. |
12:48 | <extremis> | bah |
12:48 | <extremis> | sorry |
12:52 | <extremis> | Chutt: You will then be returned to the Video Sources screen. If you have multiple video sources available, such as Antenna, Cable, etc, go ahead and define them all, even if they're not all going to be physically connected to the master backend server. Once you're done, press ESC to return to the main screen. |
12:52 | <extremis> | from the HOWTO |
12:52 | <Chutt> | you're supposed to attach them to inputs. |
12:52 | <Chutt> | after that. |
12:53 | <extremis> | but if you attach them to inputs and they aren't connected how does mythtv know not to use them? |
12:53 | <Chutt> | you don't define them then. |
12:53 | <extremis> | hehe |
12:53 | <extremis> | ok |
12:53 | <Chutt> | you only define stuff that you're going to use. |
12:53 | <extremis> | what do I delete from teh DB to get rid of those 3 |
12:54 | <Chutt> | the stuff in videosource |
12:54 | <extremis> | ahh, found em |
12:55 | <extremis> | thanks chutt |
12:55 | <extremis> | does it delete everything that mythfilldb put in there for those sources? |
12:55 | <extremis> | or do I need to rerun mythfill? |
12:59 | <Chutt> | you'll have to delete from the channel and program tables |
13:00 | <extremis> | ok |
13:00 | <extremis> | doing that now |
13:00 | <extremis> | actually mythfill is running |
13:00 | <extremis> | thanks chutt for your patience |
13:01 | <Chutt> | you next need to make sure that you don't have any extra cardinput entries |
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13:20 | <extremis> | can mythbackend run while mythfilldatabase is running with default options? |
13:20 | <Chutt> | sure |
13:20 | <Chutt> | it really needs at least one days worth of data grabbed, so it has a filled channel table |
13:20 | <Chutt> | but other than that.. |
13:20 | <extremis> | cool, I'm going to try to schedule something and see if it mutes audio after starting mythbackend |
13:21 | <Chutt> | why would it mute audio? |
13:21 | <extremis> | I've notieced that when starting mythbackend that I lose audio on /dev/video0, but if I change the port test_ioctl -p 8 ; test_ioctl -p 6 audio comes back |
13:21 | <extremis> | 6 is svideo0 |
13:21 | <Chutt> | oh, that ivtv driver bug. |
13:21 | <extremis> | 8 is arbitrary |
13:22 | <extremis> | I'm using a fairly recent cvs version |
13:22 | <Chutt> | exactly. |
13:22 | <extremis> | its a new bug |
13:22 | <extremis> | heh |
13:22 | <Chutt> | audio goes away if you look at it funny. |
13:23 | * extremis | keeps a straight face |
13:23 | <Thexder-> | mythfilldatabase tells me to rerun --configure |
13:23 | <Chutt> | tv_grab_na --configure |
13:23 | <extremis> | right, new channel right? |
13:23 | <Chutt> | i don't understand how people miss the 'start of xmltv output' 'end of xmltv output' lines |
13:23 | <jkolb> | Are you loading msp3400 with the standard=0x?? option? |
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13:24 | <Chutt> | jkolb, it'll still go away once you change inputs |
13:24 | <Thexder-> | Thanks Chutt. |
13:24 | <jkolb> | Does it? |
13:24 | <Chutt> | sorry, it'll go away if you do what the v4l2 api tells you to do and change inputs then set the standard. |
13:24 | <jkolb> | I never change inputs. |
13:24 | <Chutt> | as i do in mythtv |
13:25 | <Chutt> | i'm not working around a broken driver, especially as the driver author is basically refusing to fix the bug. |
13:25 | <jkolb> | You follow the docs? Fool! |
13:25 | <Thexder-> | double checking channel information, be patient.. |
13:25 | <Thexder-> | noticed new station available (42 FOODP), re-run --configure |
13:25 | <Thexder-> | noticed station unavailable (42 FOOD), re-run --configure |
13:25 | <Thexder-> | I keep getting that, even tho I ran tv_grab_na --configure |
13:25 | <Chutt> | you have to tell it to use the config file in ~/.mythtv |
13:29 | <Peit|Home> | damm, i think i'm experiencing the ivtv sound bug, (the one where the input disappears |
13:30 | <Thexder-> | Heh... |
13:30 | <Thexder-> | I use ivtv and I get no sound until I change the channel. |
13:30 | <Thexder-> | Small bug, no biggie. |
13:31 | <Thexder-> | Hrm |
13:31 | <Peit|Home> | Thexder-: right, and when you stop recording/watching live tv, then record again, re-open liveTV< do you still have sound? |
13:31 | <Chutt> | thexder, it's the same thing |
13:31 | <Thexder-> | In mythfilldatabase, getting a lot of DB Error (programrating insert): errors. |
13:31 | <dja> | doesn't the ivtv bug kill automatic recording (if you need to it to switch between them)? |
13:31 | <Chutt> | thexder, that's because you have multiple channels with the same number |
13:31 | <Chutt> | dja, yes. |
13:32 | <Chutt> | which is why it's a rather bad bug |
13:32 | <dja> | :-( And I was going to buy one of those to replace my current tuner (you might remember I'm one of the unlucky ones who has a tuner without audio in)... |
13:32 | <dja> | I can't win...:-) |
13:32 | <Thexder-> | But the error says Can't open file: 'programrating.MYD'. (errno: 145) |
13:32 | <dja> | Chutt: have you had a chance to look at my coverfile patches for mythvideo? |
13:33 | <Chutt> | dja, yeah, i've been having a spat of hardware issues |
13:33 | <Chutt> | i'll get it applied soon |
13:33 | <dja> | no problem -- I'm running them myself -- just wanted to make sure that you didn't have anymore recommendations...thanks :-) |
13:34 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: tmk acknowleges the bug doesn't he? |
13:34 | <Chutt> | yes |
13:34 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: no workaround? |
13:35 | <Chutt> | yeah |
13:35 | <jkolb> | If you didn't have whiny audio a while back, you can check out an old version of the driver. |
13:35 | <Chutt> | you can set up the audio manually |
13:35 | <Chutt> | figure out the magic numbers to give the msp driver |
13:35 | <Chutt> | and tell it not to probe anymore |
13:35 | <Peit|Home> | I have once=1 |
13:35 | <Chutt> | which is a fairly crappy workaround |
13:35 | <Peit|Home> | ack, i need a new brain, anyone got a spare one? |
13:45 | <extremis> | ok, I scheduled some recordings, lesse if mythbackend will record them |
13:45 | <extremis> | I can't seem to delete scheduled recordings from the mythweb interface |
13:45 | <Chutt> | don't schedule with mythweb. |
13:45 | <extremis> | but that is what it is for |
13:45 | <Chutt> | so? |
13:46 | <extremis> | why don't you like it? |
13:46 | <Chutt> | until you get things working |
13:46 | <Chutt> | don't use it |
13:46 | <Chutt> | why introduce complications? |
13:46 | <extremis> | oh, well I'm not at home right now... |
13:47 | <extremis> | if you are watching livetv and there is a scheduled recording will it change ? |
13:47 | <Chutt> | yup |
13:48 | <Chutt> | depending on what you choose |
13:49 | <extremis> | I had scheduled a recording while my wife was watching live tv and it didn't change, but when she exited back to the main menu then I saw it change the channel in the log |
13:50 | <Thexder-> | It helps to have some freespace on your drive. -.- |
13:50 | <Thexder-> | Darn MPEG-2 recordings. |
13:50 | <Chutt> | like i said, it depends on which option you choose |
13:51 | <extremis> | Chutt: well none of the options indicate "if you are already viewing..." |
13:51 | <Thexder-> | Is there anyway I can clear out the channel database so that mythfilldatabase can start anew? |
13:52 | <Chutt> | thexder, run setup, say yes to the second question it asks on the console |
13:52 | <extremis> | delete from program; delete from channel; |
13:52 | <Chutt> | which essentially does that =) |
13:53 | <Thexder-> | hrm |
13:53 | <Thexder-> | It appears like the programrating table is lost. |
13:53 | <Thexder-> | That's why mythfilldatabase is having a heartattack. |
13:53 | <Thexder-> | :P |
13:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
13:53 | <Thexder-> | Anyone have the structure of that table so I can recreate it? ;) |
13:53 | <Chutt> | you can recreate it |
13:53 | <Chutt> | database/mc.sql |
13:53 | <Chutt> | everything's in there |
13:53 | <extremis> | Chutt: recording is working again |
13:53 | <extremis> | rather, not again |
13:53 | <extremis> | but working |
13:53 | <extremis> | it was the /tmp issue I bet |
13:54 | <Chutt> | i don't see why, though |
13:54 | <extremis> | the -1 issue was post recording problems |
13:54 | <Chutt> | it shouldn't be using space in /tmp |
13:54 | <extremis> | well the db couldn't write to /tmp to respond to some queries |
13:54 | <extremis> | for example the listings query that mythweb does |
13:54 | <Chutt> | eh, i guess |
13:54 | <extremis> | that requires that mysql write something in /tmp |
13:54 | <Chutt> | should only be larger queries |
13:54 | <Chutt> | but, whatever |
13:55 | <extremis> | Storage: 997 MB used out of 183.1 GB total |
13:55 | <extremis> | hehe |
13:55 | * extremis | is going to add another 120 to it |
13:55 | <extremis> | I guess I need to figure out lvm |
13:56 | <Thexder-> | oh look. |
13:56 | <Thexder-> | it works now. |
13:56 | <Thexder-> | how about that. |
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14:59 | <jhurliman> | is the dev mailing list working ok? I just switched over to a new e-mail account and have been having random issues, wanted to double-check first |
15:01 | <Chutt> | it's working fine |
15:01 | <jhurliman> | ok thanks |
15:01 | <Snow-Man> | Damn straight! |
15:01 | <Chutt> | unless there's been posts to it since yesterday, which i don't think there have been |
15:02 | <Snow-Man> | I don't think there have been either. |
15:02 | <jhurliman> | ohh, hmm that must be it |
15:03 | <jhurliman> | it went quiet for a day and i was sure something went wrong :) |
15:04 | <Justin_> | when setup says "remove no-longer available channel 25 TELICARE" where exactly is it getting that from? |
15:04 | <Snow-Man> | pffft, the mailing lists never have a problem. :) |
15:04 | <Chutt> | justin, xmltv |
15:04 | <Justin_> | 25 was changed to cnn a while ago, zap2it.com says that, but that and half the channels are screwed |
15:04 | <Justin_> | hmm |
15:05 | <Justin_> | xmltv still using zap2it.com right? |
15:05 | <Chutt> | run setup, answer yes to the second question |
15:05 | <Justin_> | did that |
15:05 | <Chutt> | run tv_grab_na --configure --config-file ~/.mythtv/<config.xmltv> |
15:05 | <Chutt> | then run mythfilldatabase. |
15:05 | <Justin_> | ok |
15:05 | <Justin_> | should I maybe delete ~/.mythtv/*.xmltv and then run setup and then do that? |
15:06 | <Justin_> | or does setup overwrite them completely? |
15:06 | <Chutt> | no |
15:06 | <Justin_> | ok:) |
15:06 | <Snow-Man> | Is it just me or are the mailing lists really rather fast atm? :) |
15:06 | <Chutt> | just got a message that took a half hour to get here |
15:06 | <Snow-Man> | erm. Where was the holdup? |
15:07 | <Chutt> | other than that, been like 2-3 minutes |
15:07 | <Snow-Man> | Messages are going through colo at a delay rate of a little over a minute. |
15:07 | <Chutt> | holdup was colo->se |
15:08 | <Snow-Man> | Really. What was the message ID? |
15:08 | <Chutt> | hmm |
15:08 | <Chutt> | nevermind |
15:08 | <Chutt> | it was all internal to se |
15:08 | <Snow-Man> | Oh. |
15:09 | <Snow-Man> | colo delivers to both of their MX's (mail and mx2), probably a delay from mx2 to mail. |
15:09 | <Chutt> | hmm |
15:09 | <jhurliman> | Chutt: are there any plans for 0.11 right now? i'm working on a commercial mythtv product and releases are always nicer than CVS, though it has been pretty solid |
15:09 | <Chutt> | can you check on ns or relay to make sure there haven't been any messages to -dev? |
15:09 | <Justin_> | Chutt: so far so good... |
15:09 | <Snow-Man> | Sure. |
15:09 | <Chutt> | jhurliman, it'll be ready when it's ready |
15:10 | <jhurliman> | sounds good, just checking if there was a scheduled release for tomorrow or something ;) |
15:10 | <Justin_> | its not until it gets up to the 50's that it starts complaining that every channel isnt available anymore |
15:10 | <Chutt> | and i'd hope that if you're selling something based off of mythtv, you'd consider contributing back in some manner |
15:10 | * Justin_ | certainly would |
15:10 | <Justin_> | I would love to see someone sell myth boxes:) |
15:11 | <jhurliman> | Chutt: that's something i want to talk to you about |
15:12 | <Snow-Man> | Grrr, I fucking hate syslog-ng. |
15:13 | <jhurliman> | as soon as things are finished there will be some extra code to give back, although it is rather limited to the hardware the commercial product is using |
15:13 | <jhurliman> | as far as the "other" kind of donations ;), is the project taking donations as a whole, or are you taking direct contributions? how would that work |
15:14 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
15:15 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Did you change something wrt -dev? |
15:15 | <Chutt> | absolutely nothing |
15:16 | <Chutt> | why |
15:16 | <Snow-Man> | Jul 22 13:47:39 2003 (4934) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) |
15:16 | <jhurliman> | ok well it's something to look at down the road, my main focus right now is getting this thing off the ground. i'm putting together (hopefully) the final e-builds right now |
15:16 | <Chutt> | did you break something? |
15:16 | <Snow-Man> | No. :P |
15:16 | <Snow-Man> | I'm getting those though. |
15:16 | <Chutt> | aha |
15:16 | <Chutt> | so, the list is broken |
15:16 | <Chutt> | =) |
15:16 | <Snow-Man> | Which appear to correspond to some posts to -dev. |
15:16 | <Snow-Man> | Well, I don't really know. |
15:17 | <Snow-Man> | Either the list is busted or people are sending funny shit to it. |
15:18 | <Justin_> | hmm, i think I need to clear the db completely...too much screwing with cvs/releases |
15:19 | <Chutt> | anyway, 0.11's waitin on thor's dvd stuff =) |
15:19 | <Chutt> | any _maybe_ a mythgame ui rework, if i can get motivated |
15:20 | <Justin_> | there going to be a mythdvd ? |
15:20 | <Justin_> | I was thinking about integrating tvtime with mythtv... it has a fifo for commands |
15:21 | <Justin_> | so you could do stuff like use tvtime for livetv, and if mythtv wants to record something, tell it to quit and start recording |
15:21 | <Snow-Man> | UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) |
15:21 | <Snow-Man> | See, like, I have nfc what that's all about. |
15:21 | <Chutt> | maybe it has a bad email in the queue |
15:23 | <Snow-Man> | It just keeps shunt'ing off messages to -dev. |
15:24 | <Chutt> | because of that? |
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15:25 | <Snow-Man> | That error is making them be shunted, yes. |
15:26 | <jhurliman> | well I'm off, if you're interested here's the url: http://www.focustheater.com/ |
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15:31 | <Chutt> | blah |
15:31 | <Justin_> | hmm, now I get "Unknown xmltv channel identifier: 30" "Skipping channe;" |
15:31 | <Snow-Man> | Apparently a rather popular error. |
15:32 | <Justin_> | oh? |
15:32 | <Snow-Man> | Not that one. :) |
15:32 | <Justin_> | I've never used mythtv at home, finally got my computer connected here |
15:32 | <Justin_> | oh :-P |
15:33 | <Chutt> | snowman, it's in checkdbs? |
15:33 | <Snow-Man> | checkdbs? |
15:33 | <Snow-Man> | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=670167&group_id=103&atid=300103 |
15:33 | <Chutt> | err |
15:33 | <Snow-Man> | That's supposted to fix it, if you can actually find the patch in there. |
15:33 | <Chutt> | same error, different place |
15:33 | <Snow-Man> | File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 303, in send_i18n_digests |
15:33 | <Snow-Man> | msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) |
15:34 | <Snow-Man> | File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 305, in process |
15:34 | <Snow-Man> | t = unicode(t, 'ascii', 'replace').encode('ascii') |
15:34 | <Chutt> | there's a link near the bottom of the page |
15:34 | <Chutt> | on the right hand side |
15:34 | <Snow-Man> | Ah, thanks, fucking sf. :) |
15:35 | <Snow-Man> | Hrmpf, not a small patch. |
15:36 | <Chutt> | bah |
15:36 | <Chutt> | it's like 30 lines |
15:38 | <Chutt> | i want my mailing list back! =) |
15:38 | <Chutt> | not that i need more email, of course |
15:38 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
15:38 | <Chutt> | you trying it out? |
15:38 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I guess I'll give it a shot.. |
15:39 | <Snow-Man> | Unless you have a better idea. |
15:39 | <Chutt> | i think you can also just remove the digest file |
15:39 | <Chutt> | since that's what it's puking on |
15:39 | <Snow-Man> | Would you rather I do that? |
15:39 | <Chutt> | http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/mailman-users-0306/54/1.html |
15:39 | <Chutt> | cuz that message said it |
15:39 | <Chutt> | 'digest.mbox' |
15:40 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmmm. |
15:40 | <Snow-Man> | I guess I can try that first. |
15:41 | <Chutt> | look later in that thread |
15:42 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm. |
15:42 | <Snow-Man> | add_language('en', _('English'), 'iso-8859-1') eh? |
15:42 | <Chutt> | next message |
15:42 | <Chutt> | that's a typo |
15:42 | <Snow-Man> | yea, sure. |
15:43 | <Chutt> | worth a try, at least |
15:43 | <Snow-Man> | Alright. |
15:43 | <Chutt> | so basically, some random attachment is causing problems in it generating the digest |
15:43 | <Chutt> | and so the entire mailing list goes to pot |
15:44 | <Snow-Man> | Gotta love mailman. |
15:44 | * Justin_ | is very confused |
15:44 | <Snow-Man> | I wonder if I really have to delete digest.mbox. |
15:45 | <Chutt> | might as well |
15:45 | <Chutt> | i dunno, though |
15:46 | <Snow-Man> | Welp, I did. |
15:46 | <Chutt> | it running now? |
15:46 | <Snow-Man> | hah, same shit. |
15:46 | <Snow-Man> | Even after I nuked the digest.mbox. |
15:46 | <Chutt> | you use that patch? |
15:47 | <Snow-Man> | Nope. |
15:47 | <Snow-Man> | I guess I can add that in too. |
15:47 | <Chutt> | why not? :p |
15:47 | <Justin_> | ahh... in the channel table, all the xmltvid's are names 'WCBS' etc...but mythfilldatabase is looking them up by number |
15:47 | <Snow-Man> | :P |
15:47 | <Chutt> | justin, you're using an old version of mythtv? |
15:47 | <Chutt> | or xmltv.. |
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15:48 | <Justin_> | using mythtv0.10 |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | patching file Scrubber.py |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | Hunk #1 FAILED at 32. |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | ... |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | 12 out of 12 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Scrubber.py.rej |
15:48 | <Chutt> | dude, patch by hand |
15:48 | <Chutt> | it's 30 lines |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | Yeah, so, that didn't work too well. :) |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | bag. |
15:48 | <Snow-Man> | err, bah. |
15:48 | <Chutt> | get off your lazy ass and do it :p |
15:48 | <Justin_> | xmltv ...XMLTV module version 0.5.14 |
15:48 | <Justin_> | This is tv_grab_na version 1.78, 2003/07/05 16:35:57 |
15:49 | <Chutt> | that's 0.5.15 |
15:49 | <Chutt> | which you can't use mythtv 0.10 with |
15:49 | <Justin_> | doh :( |
15:49 | <Justin_> | its too new or old? |
15:50 | <Chutt> | read the webpage |
15:50 | <Justin_> | right:) |
15:50 | <Justin_> | i have horrible luck with xmltv...first time I installed it, zap2it changed the format at the same time |
15:52 | <Chutt> | snowman, one message to -dev got through |
15:54 | <Snow-Man> | grrr. |
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15:55 | <Snow-Man> | Actually like three made it apparently. |
15:55 | <Snow-Man> | So maybe that did fix it and I don't have to modify this stupid python shit. |
15:55 | <Chutt> | yeah |
15:55 | <Chutt> | more than that |
15:55 | <extremis> | what chipset/card is being worked on for hdtv? |
15:55 | <Chutt> | got another one delivered |
15:55 | <extremis> | recedption that is |
15:56 | <Chutt> | extremis, no one knows =) |
15:56 | <Chutt> | http://www.pchdtv.com/ |
15:56 | <Chutt> | no website yet |
15:58 | <Snow-Man> | Alright, I patched it in. |
15:58 | <Snow-Man> | I guess I'll try again. |
15:59 | <Chutt> | some stuff made it to the archives |
15:59 | <Chutt> | but apparently hasn't been sent yet |
15:59 | <Chutt> | i imagine www isn't terribly happy right now, anyway =) |
16:00 | * Snow-Man | shrugs. |
16:00 | <Snow-Man> | It's fine. |
16:03 | <Justin_> | yay :) |
16:04 | <Chutt> | stuff's slowly filtering through |
16:04 | <Snow-Man> | Well, one message got fucked up but the rest appear alright. |
16:04 | <Snow-Man> | Jul 22 16:01:18 2003 (27690) post to mythtv-dev from lists-mythtv-dev@chaosengine.net, size=2679, message-id=<1058832442.3f1c803ab8a48@mail.chaosengine.net>, 449 failures |
16:04 | <Snow-Man> | nfc why all the failures |
16:05 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:05 | <Chutt> | i can't load the pipermail archives for -dev |
16:05 | <Snow-Man> | Slowly, yeesh. |
16:05 | <Chutt> | they keep getting updated in the middle of things |
16:05 | <Chutt> | thanks for fixing this |
16:06 | <Snow-Man> | heh, sorry I didn't pick up on it being busted sooner. |
16:06 | <Snow-Man> | I'm really starting to hate python and mailman. :) |
16:07 | <Snow-Man> | Tell you what, if my soccer game gets rained out tonight I promise to work on moving the mailing lists to colo. :) |
16:07 | <Chutt> | cool |
16:07 | <Chutt> | after that, only thing left is cvs =) |
16:07 | <Snow-Man> | So, you can hope for rain with the rest of us. :) |
16:07 | <Snow-Man> | cvs should be easy comparatively. |
16:07 | <Chutt> | it rained here today |
16:08 | <Snow-Man> | The lists are going to be kind of a bitch because what I *really* want is to just move the mythtv lists. :) |
16:08 | <Chutt> | yeah |
16:08 | <Chutt> | going to have to make lists.mythtv.org point to colo |
16:08 | <Snow-Man> | And then I have to fix up all the MX shit and all that dealio. |
16:08 | <Chutt> | and separate stuff out |
16:08 | <Snow-Man> | yea. |
16:08 | <Snow-Man> | And forward stuff to whatever@snowman.net to the right places. |
16:08 | <Chutt> | and change the list address |
16:09 | <Chutt> | be a bitch for a little bit, until people use the new name |
16:09 | <Snow-Man> | Well, I *think* I can make it work with both. |
16:09 | <Snow-Man> | Unless you'd rather we just not allow that. :) |
16:10 | <Chutt> | well, eventually |
16:10 | <Snow-Man> | Unfortunately I don't think mailman can be like 'virtually hosted' or whatever. |
16:10 | <Chutt> | whatever you think's best, really |
16:10 | <Snow-Man> | I do mailing lists for dddgames.com too and it'd be nice if people could use like 'lists.dddgames.com' for his stuff and 'lists.mythtv.org' for your stuff. |
16:10 | <Chutt> | hm? |
16:10 | <Snow-Man> | dddgames.com is also hosted on colo. |
16:11 | <Chutt> | i'm pretty sure you can do that |
16:11 | <Snow-Man> | oh? Maybe I'll have to look into that then. |
16:11 | <Chutt> | we did that at freeamp.org |
16:11 | <Chutt> | i don't remember having to do anything special to get that working |
16:11 | <Snow-Man> | What's going on with mythtv mail in general these days anyway? |
16:11 | <Chutt> | had an id3v2 list @id3v2.org and the freeamp lists at freeamp.org |
16:11 | <Chutt> | what's going on with it? |
16:12 | <Snow-Man> | Like, is all the other mail going to you or have you got some aliases off it or what? |
16:12 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
16:12 | <Chutt> | i think you have it set up to all go to me |
16:12 | <Snow-Man> | I'm expecting to make colo locally accept mythtv.org mail directly and have it by the primary MX for that. |
16:12 | <Snow-Man> | So we'll have to mirror anything like that over to colo too. |
16:12 | <Chutt> | ok |
16:13 | <Chutt> | i may want a couple aliases |
16:13 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
16:13 | <Chutt> | but i know how to setup sendmail aliases on my own, so :p |
16:13 | <Snow-Man> | Well, whatever, I'll try and set things up identical to how they are now and if you want to change stuff we can do it after the move. |
16:13 | <Snow-Man> | Well, you know to use virtuser, right? |
16:14 | <Chutt> | i think so |
16:14 | <Chutt> | been awhile |
16:14 | <Snow-Man> | www is certainly keeping colo busy. |
16:14 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Well, don't expect to add shit to /etc/aliases and have it work. :) |
16:15 | <Snow-Man> | You'll want to modify /etc/mail/virtusers and then run make in /etc/mail. |
16:15 | <Snow-Man> | Well, though running /etc/init.d/sendmail restart doesn't actually restart everything. |
16:15 | <Snow-Man> | So you might want to just let me do it. :) |
16:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:15 | <Chutt> | allrighty |
16:16 | <Snow-Man> | The problem is that there are really three seperate sendmail processes that are running now. |
16:16 | <Snow-Man> | There's the MTA which accepts incoming connections and uses sendmail.cf, then there's the two queue runner masters which use mqueue.cf and hourly.cf, as appropriate. |
16:17 | <Snow-Man> | That allows me to control the timeouts that are used for the queue runners so that the mqueue can have a very short timeout on everything and hourly can have the 'normal' timeouts. |
16:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
16:18 | <Snow-Man> | Which is why the mqueue gets processed so fast now because it's not waiting for long timeouts when talking to shitty/down servers. |
16:18 | <Chutt> | heh |
16:18 | <Chutt> | we're up to 9:30 last night, now |
16:18 | <Snow-Man> | You've got 2 messages in the queue on www and one in the queue on colo. |
16:19 | <Chutt> | mailman's still processing shit, i think |
16:19 | <Snow-Man> | Hmmm, maybe. |
16:19 | <Chutt> | there's at least 5 or 6 more in the archives than that |
16:21 | <Snow-Man> | There does appear to be some more stuff in the out/ dir. |
16:22 | <Snow-Man> | There went another. I guess it's just being slow about it. |
16:26 | <Snow-Man> | I think sendmail is actually doing a decent job keeping up with mailman. |
16:34 | <Chutt> | sure seems to be |
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16:36 | <Peit|Home> | bah @ Pace STB |
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16:45 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I'm doing a semi-Chutt reply to somebody on the -dev mailing list. :) |
16:45 | <Snow-Man> | Better watch out, he might have beat you to it. |
16:46 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | not that I saw. |
16:46 | <Snow-Man> | There are two messages from him about to go out. |
16:47 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | the guy tells me he wants some feature. I tell him that I won't code it and don't know of any other programmer who wants it. he replies by suggesting another one that he wants. |
16:47 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
16:47 | <thor> | go Captain_Murdoch_ ! |
16:47 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | is something going on with the list that is converting messages into attachments? |
16:48 | <Snow-Man> | Well, that's certainly possible. |
16:48 | <Snow-Man> | You can blame Chutt though, he wanted me to add the patch in. :) |
16:48 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | I sent a message yesteday using elm in straight text but when I got my copy from the list it came in as an attachment. |
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16:59 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt's having fun banging on the mail servers. :) |
16:59 | <bigguy> | heh silly people and their cross postings |
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17:01 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | bigguy: yeah. "I'm posting this to the -users and -dev list, the QT list, the redhat -users, the g++ list, and even the linux kernel list too since it has to do a little with each of them." |
17:02 | <bigguy> | right |
17:03 | <bigguy> | "I need to call my MA sponsor. I'm having another moronic moment" |
17:09 | <Chutt> | captain_murdoch, i've not seen it convert messages into attachments |
17:11 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | weird. all the sudden I got a bunch of messages on the -dev list that showed up as attachments in elm. |
17:11 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | even the message I just sent earlier came back as an attachment when the "sent" copy in my mailbox doesn't show up as having an attachment. |
17:14 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | ahh, looks like it's because I replied to a message with mime encoding and some of the stuff didn't get stripped by mail mail reader when I replied. |
17:14 | <Captain_Murdoch_> | s/by mail mail reader/by my mail reader/ |
17:14 | <jkolb> | All of the recent messages now have Content-Type: multipart/mixed to start them off, it seems. |
17:14 | <jkolb> | Older messages didn't have that. |
17:15 | <jkolb> | The body of a message and the mailman footer are different parts. |
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17:18 | <Chutt> | heh, yeah, you're right |
17:18 | <Chutt> | ah well |
17:18 | <Chutt> | it's email that way, or no email at all =) |
17:18 | <jkolb> | Did mailman just get 'upgraded' again or something? |
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17:21 | <Chutt> | no |
17:21 | <Chutt> | heh |
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17:39 | <Chutt> | tmk, hi lazy bastard |
17:39 | <Chutt> | =) |
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17:46 | <tmk> | sup chutt |
17:46 | <tmk> | how'd you know? |
17:46 | <tmk> | :P |
17:46 | <Chutt> | heh |
17:46 | <Chutt> | just general bitching about showstopper driver bugs is all |
17:47 | <tmk> | 'showstopper' |
17:47 | * Peit|Home | chuckles |
17:47 | <tmk> | first it's "the whine hurts! fixitfixit" |
17:47 | <tmk> | now it's "you lazy bastard" |
17:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
17:47 | <Chutt> | yeah, but you said you wouldn't fix this :p |
17:47 | <tmk> | it works fine for me |
17:47 | <tmk> | and most folks it seems |
17:47 | <Chutt> | and really, sound with whine's a whole lot better without sound |
17:48 | <tmk> | i've said it several times |
17:48 | <Chutt> | you don't switch inputs, though, i imagine |
17:48 | <tmk> | test_ioctl -v input=7,output=1 |
17:48 | <Chutt> | then set the standard |
17:48 | <tmk> | that'll get you whine |
17:48 | <Chutt> | like the v4l2 api tells you to do |
17:48 | <tmk> | hmm |
17:48 | <Chutt> | well, for switching inputs |
17:48 | <tmk> | i'm actually not sure what the order |
17:48 | <Chutt> | you have to set the standard after setting the input |
17:48 | <tmk> | i don't keep track of what standard which input is |
17:49 | <Chutt> | as the set standard call is only for the current input |
17:49 | <Chutt> | according to the api docs |
17:49 | <tmk> | hmm |
17:49 | <tmk> | perhaps that will help |
17:49 | <Chutt> | and that's what kills the audio |
17:49 | <Chutt> | i don't need to do that, but.. |
17:49 | <tmk> | yeah |
17:49 | <Chutt> | i'm just using the tuner input |
17:49 | <tmk> | if it's in the standard i'll take a look |
17:50 | <Chutt> | what's the issue, though? |
17:50 | <tmk> | the msp autodetect gets lost |
17:50 | <Chutt> | two re-detects close together mess it up internally? |
17:50 | <tmk> | or confused |
17:50 | <tmk> | yeah |
17:50 | <Peit|Home> | I have to use the test_ioctl on the coposite input, so i don't think it's restricked to just the tuner |
17:50 | <tmk> | eh? |
17:51 | <Chutt> | i'd just add a field that stores the last autodetect time and compare against that before setting off a new one |
17:51 | <Chutt> | probably be the easiest way to fix it |
17:51 | <tmk> | yeah |
17:51 | <tmk> | that'd be pretty easy |
17:51 | <tmk> | but the decoder is more fun to work on |
17:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
17:52 | <Chutt> | how's that coming? =) |
17:52 | <tmk> | well |
17:52 | <tmk> | it takes data |
17:52 | <Chutt> | if i have time, i'll look into the msp stuff |
17:52 | <tmk> | but i think the digitizer output stuff is borken |
17:52 | <Chutt> | but i don't have time for much work on mythtv right now, let alone other stuff |
17:52 | <tmk> | i just got a ptach from some guy that should help |
17:52 | <Chutt> | ah, cool |
17:53 | <tmk> | yeah.. Also had some r/e done on my behalf |
17:53 | <Chutt> | i can't wait until i can stop responding with 'ivtv bug' on my lists =) |
17:53 | * tmk | vows that day will never come! |
17:53 | <Chutt> | other than the funky mpg output |
17:53 | <tmk> | yeah.. i still haven't gotten confirmation that the windows driver does it correctly |
17:53 | <Chutt> | right |
17:54 | <tmk> | though it does do mpg1 right |
17:54 | <tmk> | and ivtv doesn't seem to |
17:54 | <Chutt> | i think you may be doing lower resolutions wrong |
17:54 | <Chutt> | like |
17:54 | <Chutt> | i _think_ capturing at x240 instead of x480 |
17:54 | <tmk> | or i should say 'it produces coherent mpg1' |
17:54 | <tmk> | hmm |
17:54 | <Chutt> | should only return one field of the data, right, with no interlacing artifacts |
17:54 | <tmk> | no it comes in interlaced |
17:54 | <Chutt> | but it seems to be scaling down |
17:55 | <tmk> | all the scaling is done on the digitizer |
17:55 | <Chutt> | hrm |
17:55 | <tmk> | perhaps some more i2c dumps are in order |
17:55 | <Chutt> | ah well |
17:55 | <Chutt> | have you ever done any really tiny captures? |
17:56 | <Chutt> | like, say, 160x128 |
17:56 | <tmk> | yeah |
17:56 | <tmk> | they're hideous |
17:56 | <Chutt> | ok, so you've seen that too |
17:56 | <term> | mmm decoder support |
17:56 | <tmk> | term: pvr350 only |
17:56 | <tmk> | for now |
17:56 | <Chutt> | i need to swap the computers the 350 and 250 are in here |
17:56 | <term> | :( |
17:56 | <tmk> | until i figure out how to get the audio |
17:56 | <term> | I have a pvr250 |
17:57 | <Peit|Home> | I have a 350, so I'll happily test |
17:57 | <tmk> | my plan right now is to branch the code into a stable and a devel |
17:57 | <tmk> | and keep the stable working so isaac doesn't get whiny users |
17:57 | <Chutt> | thank you =) |
17:58 | <Peit|Home> | sounds like a great plan |
17:58 | <term> | which I need to mess with more, since I can get signal (fuzzy) when I hook it directly into cable, but every 2-3 seconds it "stops" momentarily, but when I hook it through the digial cable box, it gets nothing |
17:58 | <term> | Chutt: heh |
17:58 | <Chutt> | you really should get someone to set up your cvs commits list |
17:58 | <tmk> | whyfor |
17:58 | <Chutt> | so people know when to update and stuff |
17:58 | <tmk> | you want more notification when record_v4l2 gets updated? |
17:58 | <Chutt> | no, when you update the actual driver :p |
17:59 | <tmk> | heh |
17:59 | <term> | I ordered an IR2000U today. |
17:59 | * tmk | blinks |
17:59 | <term> | when I get this finally setup, I'll start messing with mythvideo. |
17:59 | <term> | I want it to handle mplayer or xine better ;( |
18:00 | <term> | though part of my problems with it are just bindings, which I should get around to fixing |
18:00 | <term> | tmk: blink? |
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18:57 | <Peit|Home> | what's the recommended capture size if the storage is via NFS? |
18:58 | <tmk> | over modem link or ethernet |
18:58 | <tmk> | ;) |
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19:12 | <fulbert> | my frontend is locking when I try to play or delete recordings, or watch live TV. It was working, can anyone suggest what may be wrong? |
19:12 | <fulbert> | via strace I get a timeout loop like so: |
19:12 | <fulbert> | write(11, "20 ANN Playback linus 1", 28) = 28 |
19:12 | <fulbert> | ioctl(7, FIONREAD, [1]) = 0 |
19:12 | <fulbert> | select(12, [11], NULL, NULL, {0, 5000}) = 0 (Timeout) |
19:12 | <fulbert> | and those two last lines repeate over and over until I kill the app. |
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19:43 | <jamesb0nd> | hey i want to start to help code mythtv is there any thing i could code that needs to be coded isn't very complex so i can get my feet wet? |
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19:45 | <thor> | cd burning |
19:46 | <jamesb0nd> | music or vcds? |
19:46 | <thor> | starting with music |
19:46 | <thor> | (simpler) |
19:47 | <thor> | then s/vcds |
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19:47 | <thor> | then arbitrary data |
19:47 | <thor> | then DVDs |
19:47 | <thor> | ... |
19:47 | <thor> | =) |
19:52 | <mdz> | this file format discussion needs to go in the FAQ |
19:52 | <mdz> | "why doesn't mythtv record to <my favorite format>?" "because it sucks" |
19:52 | <jkolb> | That's not much of a discussion. |
19:54 | <mdz> | exactly |
19:54 | <mdz> | there doesn't need to be a discussion about it |
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19:56 | <jamesb0nd> | isn't there a transcoder being worked on? so the recorded file format really doesn't matter if you can just have myth change it |
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19:59 | <Ripp> | that's the good thing about standards...just invent your own |
19:59 | <Ripp> | wait thats not right... |
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20:06 | <thor> | "standards are great, that's why we have so many of them" ? |
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20:17 | <Ripp> | forgot closing tag </irony> |
20:20 | * Ripp | is away: screaming children! somebody make it stop! oh wait that'd be me |
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20:46 | <tdb30_> | Is it possible to add a url to a playlist? |
20:46 | <tdb30_> | I have some internet shows I listen too and would like to be able to just click music and have a playlist I can select to hear the shows. |
20:56 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: you around? |
21:13 | <Chutt> | no |
21:13 | <mikegrb> | oh okay |
21:13 | <Chutt> | heh |
21:13 | <mikegrb> | I'll talk to you later then |
21:14 | <moegreen> | heh |
21:14 | <Chutt> | moegreen's here, yay |
21:14 | <Chutt> | hi |
21:14 | <moegreen> | howdy |
21:14 | <Chutt> | tdb30, nope, it's not |
21:15 | <Chutt> | so |
21:16 | <Chutt> | what's goin on? |
21:16 | <mikegrb> | so to call a c++ lib from c I'm assuming extern "c" is the way to go, should I try to make a wrapper compiled as a library that calls the mythtv libraries and compile against the wrapper library or just put the wrappers in tvtime to call the c++ functions from there |
21:16 | <moegreen> | not a whole lot. Been working a lot |
21:16 | <thor> | tdb30_, easy to add ... maddecoder is already there .... example code is in xmms network stuff |
21:16 | <Chutt> | mikegrb, extern "c" is to call c from c++ |
21:16 | <mikegrb> | I'm thinking the first but as this is new to me just kind of wanted confirmation that I was going in the right direction |
21:16 | <bline> | any changes in schedule recordings lately? |
21:17 | <Chutt> | you _probably_ want a wrapper library |
21:17 | <mikegrb> | that is what I was thinking |
21:17 | <thor> | header file with extern "C" { c_stuff() } |
21:17 | <Chutt> | moegreen, figured, what with your lack of code =) and i think i saw your email bounce off of -users yesterday |
21:17 | <mikegrb> | I see what I misinterpreted |
21:18 | <mikegrb> | "he C++ compiler must be told to compile the C++ function using C-compatible calling conventions (also known as C linkage). This is done using the same extern "C"" |
21:18 | <thor> | extern "C" { c_stuff() }; (<--- semicolon) |
21:18 | <moegreen> | Chutt: yeah...i've been keeping on what's going on |
21:19 | <Chutt> | mikegrb, hold on a sec, i've got an example of a wrapper (file, part of an existing library) |
21:19 | <mikegrb> | so the library would be compiled with g++ using extern to tell it to "compile the C++ function using C-compatible calling conventions (also known as C linkage)" |
21:19 | <mikegrb> | okay thanks |
21:20 | <Chutt> | moegreen, have you noticed mythweather breaking at all? =) |
21:20 | <Chutt> | moegreen, i get (i think this is it) a 401: Invalid Request a whole lot of the time |
21:22 | <Chutt> | mikegrb, http://cvs.musicbrainz.org/cvs/mb_client/lib/c_wrapper.cpp?rev=1.35&sortby=date&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
21:22 | <Chutt> | the library it's wrapping is in the same directory, there |
21:25 | <mikegrb> | okay, thanks a /lot/ |
21:25 | <mikegrb> | the wrapper looks rather trivial |
21:25 | <mikegrb> | heh like you told me it would be... about a week ago I think |
21:25 | <Chutt> | basically just translating c++ into something c-like |
21:25 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I have seen that a few times. Perhaps full HTTP headers on the connection might keep their server happy |
21:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
21:26 | <Chutt> | moegreen, or something like what you're doing with the imdb stuff as well |
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21:26 | <Chutt> | moegreen, doesn't working suck? =) |
21:30 | <moegreen> | Chutt: heh, indeed. |
21:32 | <moegreen> | Chutt: I don't really mind the getting up in the morning, it's something else which sucks, can't quite figure it out |
21:35 | <bline> | Did the Fix Schedule Conflict screen change to display no list if there were no conflicts? |
21:40 | <bline> | nevermind, I found it |
21:41 | <lunk> | is there a way to get mythtv to not always set the volume so low? |
21:42 | <bline> | yeah, look in the setup->general |
21:43 | <lunk> | holy geeez |
21:43 | <lunk> | how did i not see that |
21:44 | <jkolb> | Make sure you check Use Internal Volume Controls or whatever it's called. |
21:44 | <lunk> | it already was, sweet |
21:50 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
21:50 | <jkolb> | ? |
21:51 | <Chutt> | trying to decide what to work on |
21:52 | <jkolb> | Oh, hey, you had mentioned something about zap2it's listings a while back when I had suggested some db schema changes. Has something come of that? |
21:52 | <Chutt> | not yet |
21:53 | <jkolb> | Are you at liberty to say what's going to be changing about that? Is Myth going to be getting an official feed or something? |
21:54 | <moegreen> | brb |
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21:54 | <Chutt> | i really don't know |
21:54 | <tdb30_> | work on a sleep function for when you are in playback. so it can run a program on sleep or just shut itself down :) |
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21:55 | <tdb30_> | or work on an alarm feature that will slowly wake you up to your favorite station. |
21:55 | <jkolb> | Ok. |
21:55 | <tdb30_> | slowly increasing the volume over time. |
21:55 | <tdb30_> | ;) |
21:55 | <Chutt> | i've got stuff to do |
21:55 | <Chutt> | i just haven't decided which to work on |
21:55 | <tdb30_> | I'm sure your list is quite long. |
21:56 | <tdb30_> | what ever you are working on is fine by me. I think mythtv is going in the right direction. |
21:56 | <Chutt> | thanks for your permission :p |
21:58 | <thor> | native dvd mplayer in Qt on Framebuffer ? |
21:58 | <thor> | s/mplayer/player/ |
21:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
21:58 | <thor> | <--> |
21:59 | <tdb30_> | ;P |
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22:23 | <Chutt> | heh |
22:24 | <Chutt> | ffmpeg guy rejected part of my patch because he wanted to re-do how it flushes buffers |
22:24 | <Chutt> | he redid it, and the same memory corruption bug's in the new code |
22:24 | <vektor> | ahaha |
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22:25 | <poptix> | bug that you were fixing, or bug that was in your patch |
22:25 | <Chutt> | bug that i was fixing. |
22:26 | <Chutt> | in the patch |
22:26 | <paulproteus> | And surely you mentioned this to him. |
22:26 | <Chutt> | naw, i'll just send in a new patch |
22:26 | * paulproteus | grins |
22:28 | <thor> | unsigned char ? |
22:28 | <thor> | what is that ? |
22:28 | <Chutt> | hm? |
22:28 | <Timon> | uchar? |
22:28 | <thor> | deep into libdvdread ... |
22:29 | <Chutt> | err, really? |
22:29 | <thor> | trying to figure out why they store the volume name as a char |
22:29 | <thor> | but if it's part of a set, they use an unsigned char |
22:29 | <thor> | for the set name |
22:29 | <thor> | ... not important ... |
22:34 | <mechou> | extremis, you there? |
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