| 00:02 | <GreyFoxx> | tmk: I assume that the tv out the 350 (once it's functional of course) can only output stuff sent via the mpeg decoder right? No magic way to make it output your regular video so that things like the MythTV menus et all can use it as well ?:) |
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| 00:03 | <GreyFoxx> | Or is that a very wrong assumption ? |
| 00:05 | <tmk> | grey: well |
| 00:05 | <tmk> | we're working on making it a standard framebuffer |
| 00:05 | <tmk> | but first things first |
| 00:05 | <GreyFoxx> | Oooh that would be nice |
| 00:05 | <GreyFoxx> | hehe okie |
| 00:05 | <mdz> | Chutt: are you interested in this backtrace at all? |
| 00:06 | <GreyFoxx> | just curious if it was a possibility :) |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | it is |
| 00:06 | <mdz> | it doesn't look useful to me, but it's valid |
| 00:06 | <tmk> | using the OSD functions |
| 00:06 | <GreyFoxx> | I haven't picked mine up yet, but was just curious before I bought it |
| 00:06 | <mdz> | I'd wonder if maybe it weren'l locking libavcodec properly |
| 00:07 | <paulproteus> | Is there any consideration of moving Myth to Qt-FB when Qt-FB matures? |
| 00:07 | <mdz> | except that the lock is locked/unlocked directly around the line where it crashes |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | mdz, sure |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | paulproteus, it compiles/runs on qt/embedded |
| 00:14 | <paulproteus> | Well, that's nice. I might try that at some point. |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | there's no video output, though |
| 00:14 | <mdz> | Chutt: sent it to the list |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | needs someone to write a simple sdl output class |
| 00:15 | <paulproteus> | I thought SDL had a FB renderer in its back pocket. |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | it probably does |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | which is why it needs someone to write a sdl video output class to use that :p |
| 00:15 | <paulproteus> | Ah. |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | everything in mythtv _but_ the video output works fine on qt/e |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | since the only video display code is for Xv |
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| 00:20 | <vektor613> | SDL's XVIDEO abstraction is lacking in many ways. |
| 00:21 | <vektor613> | you can't set the scaling rectangle for example, you can only use the full frame |
| 00:21 | <vektor613> | also, its software Y'CbCr->R'G'B' converter is slow, and I have reason to believe it uses the wrong transformation. |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | mdz, bah, you need compile libavcodec with -g |
| 00:28 | <mdz> | Chutt: bah, libavcodec should get built with the same CFLAGS |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | you've got write access |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | it looks like the only difference is that it needs -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H |
| 00:29 | <mdz> | so if we add that to top level, the one in libavcodec.pro can go, away, right? |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | i'd have to look at it |
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| 00:50 | <thor> | bah |
| 00:51 | <thor> | Chutt, no code tonight ... needs a couple more hours but I'm half asleep already. |
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| 02:27 | <tmk> | hey chutt |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | decoder's working |
| 02:28 | <tmk> | more or less |
| 03:05 | <KikoV> | tmk, which decoder? PVR-350? |
| 03:06 | <Timon> | ? is this legal: void someFunc(QString text1, QString text2 = ""); code: someFunc(QString temp); |
| 03:06 | <Timon> | Or would I have to overload? |
| 03:07 | <KikoV> | perfectly |
| 03:07 | <Timon> | KikoV: that would work? |
| 03:07 | <KikoV> | someFunc ( temp, "" ) |
| 03:07 | <KikoV> | like someFunc ( temp, "" ) |
| 03:07 | <Timon> | Ok, so then to maintain backwards compatibility I would have to overload |
| 03:08 | <KikoV> | default parameters... |
| 03:08 | <KikoV> | overload what? |
| 03:08 | <Timon> | someFunc |
| 03:08 | <KikoV> | what do you want to be the new function? |
| 03:08 | <Timon> | Or are you saying if you default, then no need to overload if you just add params? |
| 03:08 | <KikoV> | if you put someFunc ( temp, temp2 ), |
| 03:09 | <Timon> | hmm, ok |
| 03:09 | <KikoV> | it calls the same function as someFunc ( temp ); |
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| 03:13 | <tmk> | kikov: ya |
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| 03:21 | <KikoV> | tmk, it's on CVS? |
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| 05:39 | <Timon> | thor you awake? |
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| 10:47 | <thor> | Timon, you awake? |
| 10:53 | <Chutt> | morning thor |
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| 10:54 | <thor> | hey |
| 10:55 | <thor> | 3.1 req'd now ? |
| 10:55 | <Chutt> | pondering it |
| 10:55 | <thor> | ok |
| 10:55 | <Chutt> | haven't decided yet |
| 10:55 | <thor> | k |
| 10:56 | <thor> | writing UITheme widgets that take a lot of input is really hard |
| 10:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:56 | <thor> | makes you appreciate Qy |
| 10:56 | <thor> | Qt |
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| 10:57 | <thor> | I'm abandoning it for the time being, so one of the dialog's in mythdvd will be a MythDialog, not a MythThemedDialog |
| 10:57 | <Chutt> | just a simple question page? |
| 10:57 | <Chutt> | that's perfectly fine =) |
| 10:58 | <thor> | no, it's where you click buttons to decide which titles to rip, drop downs for audio track selections, RemoteLIneEdits for name of files, etc. |
| 10:59 | <gsfgf> | i don't have a capture control for my sound card (snd-cmipci) |
| 11:00 | <thor> | that a cmi chip on the motherboard? |
| 11:01 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 11:01 | <Chutt> | so just something like a config screen, yeah? |
| 11:01 | <thor> | yeah ... looks a but like the current mmusic rip screen |
| 11:01 | <thor> | one row per title, with thngs you can set |
| 11:02 | <thor> | not the easiest to navigate, but its all prefilled |
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| 11:07 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 11:10 | <thor> | btw, I'm going to be out of the country for most of August ... I'll be doing some development (and certainly bug fixing), but it'll all be on dialup so I'll be a bit inaccesable |
| 11:11 | <Chutt> | so hopefully you'll get this in a cvs commitable state before then? =) |
| 11:11 | <Snow-Man> | The mailing lists appear to be doing quite well. |
| 11:11 | <thor> | absolutely |
| 11:11 | <Snow-Man> | At least, in terms of colo doing it's thing. |
| 11:11 | <thor> | Snow-Man, just needs Bayseian filtering for from addresses that do nothing but send "feature request" =) |
| 11:12 | <Snow-Man> | haha. |
| 11:12 | <Snow-Man> | thor: I'd be happier if people would subscribe non-crap addresses. :) |
| 11:12 | <Chutt> | there was one message held up on www for about 15 hours |
| 11:12 | <mdz_> | Snow-Man: auto-unsubscribe them? |
| 11:13 | <Chutt> | other than that, though, it's been just a couple minutes |
| 11:13 | <Snow-Man> | mdz_: They are but mailman waits for the full 5 day failure notice. |
| 11:13 | <Snow-Man> | Chutt: Huh. 15 hours? Geez. |
| 11:13 | <mdz_> | Snow-Man: bah, someone whose mail bounces for 5 days is probably dead :-) |
| 11:14 | <thor> | or at least very very ill |
| 11:15 | <extremis> | bah, my mythbackend box locked up again |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | mdz, or people can submit patches for qt 3.0 support :p |
| 11:16 | <mdz_> | I don't want the #ifdefs anymore than you do |
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| 11:19 | <tmk> | you here chutt |
| 11:19 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:19 | <jkolb> | extremis: Did you get your preview transfer issue worked out? |
| 11:19 | <extremis> | jkolb: yes and I submitted a patch to the list |
| 11:20 | <jkolb> | Oh, yay. |
| 11:20 | <extremis> | thanks for your help |
| 11:20 | <jkolb> | Crap. Now that every message has an 'attachment,' sorting by attachment is no longer useful to find posted patches. |
| 11:21 | <extremis> | search for extremis@exploit.org |
| 11:21 | <jkolb> | Hm. Not every message get the attachment treatment. |
| 11:21 | <jkolb> | er, gets |
| 11:21 | <tmk> | chutt: did you see what i wrote last night? |
| 11:22 | <Chutt> | kinda |
| 11:22 | <Chutt> | 'decoder's working, more or less' |
| 11:22 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 11:22 | <tmk> | it outputs to my TV |
| 11:22 | <thor> | tmk, this is extremely impressive |
| 11:22 | <tmk> | looks good too |
| 11:22 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 11:22 | <extremis> | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/mailarc/gforum.cgi?post=72621;search_string=mythweb%20transfer;guest=865521&t=search_engine#72621 |
| 11:23 | <thor> | Chutt, MythThemedDialog remdered to an moeg stream ? |
| 11:23 | <tmk> | chutt: for seeking, is it better to close the stream and re-open later |
| 11:23 | <tmk> | or is it better to just suck all teh data through and let the card FF |
| 11:23 | <Chutt> | thor, naw, it should be possible to make it look like a framebuffer |
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| 11:23 | <thor> | ah, even better |
| 11:23 | <Chutt> | tmk, hrm, i dunno |
| 11:23 | <thor> | or simpler |
| 11:24 | <jkolb> | extremis: You posted it to -users. I'm not subscribed to -users. |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | it'd certainly be faster to close, seek client side, reopen |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | or |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | you could just send the updated buffer |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | it may take a few seconds to take effect tho :/ |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | jkolb: ;), you can download from that link, but I'll submit all patches to -dev |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | what sort of status information is there? |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | pts |
| 11:24 | <extremis> | since its already on -users I won't crosspost |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | like, can i get back what frame it's on? |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | and buffer fullness |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | yeah |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | pts is ok, i suppose |
| 11:24 | <tmk> | there's a framecount |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | but it's got a few buffers internally |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | right |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | so you'll have to empty those |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | closing the stream could be ok |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | there's an option to have the last frame displayed stay |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | so it doesn't blackscreen |
| 11:25 | <tmk> | and there are options to snip x # of audio frames |
| 11:26 | <tmk> | so no pop |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 11:27 | <tmk> | see my msg? |
| 11:27 | <Chutt> | now i do |
| 11:28 | <tmk> | :) |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | don't expect me to mess with this at all until the weekend :( |
| 11:29 | <tmk> | i don't |
| 11:29 | <tmk> | as long as you don't expect me to either |
| 11:29 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:29 | <Chutt> | sallright =) |
| 11:29 | <Peit|work> | Chutt: does this mean mythTV will support Hardware decoding? if only for ivtv? |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | eventually |
| 11:30 | <tmk> | there are quite a few steps before we're there |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | bunch of other stuff needs to happen first |
| 11:30 | <tmk> | :) |
| 11:30 | <tmk> | right now the only way to use the decoder is to "cat file > /dev/video0" |
| 11:31 | <tmk> | it's not v4l'd at all |
| 11:31 | <tmk> | and we also need to iron out the display issues |
| 11:31 | <tmk> | ie framebuffer/osd stuff |
| 11:31 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:31 | <tmk> | i actually prefer using dd to get the data to the card |
| 11:32 | <tmk> | i can specify blocksize of 64k thatway |
| 11:32 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 11:32 | <tmk> | much mo' efficient |
| 11:32 | <Peit|work> | hmm, how hard would it be for mythTV to support the overlay cards, like the sigma realmagic and clones? |
| 11:33 | <tmk> | well you'd have to have some way to make htem act as a fb |
| 11:33 | <tmk> | unless isaac renders the osd stuff himself |
| 11:33 | <tmk> | which would be easier for *ME* |
| 11:33 | <Peit|work> | the OSD is 'plexed into the output stream isn't it? |
| 11:33 | <tmk> | right now |
| 11:34 | <tmk> | the output stream is the monitor |
| 11:34 | <tmk> | so everythign just goes to the display |
| 11:34 | <tmk> | and you get to figure out how to get the display to the TV |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | with pvr350's, the tv-out is video + osd only |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | we either have to make the osd part emulate a framebuffer |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | i'm rendering the osd myself, it's the other things that i'm not |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | or have myth pre-render and send us an image |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | what other things |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | the gui in general |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | oh well that's what i meant :) |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | by osd |
| 11:35 | <tmk> | everything non-video |
| 11:36 | <Chutt> | i mean 'stuff on top of the video' by osd |
| 11:36 | <tmk> | right |
| 11:36 | <Chutt> | totally non-video stuff is just the ui =) |
| 11:36 | <tmk> | are you going to use your own osd with ivtv? |
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| 11:36 | <tmk> | gotta run |
| 11:36 | <tmk> | bbiab |
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| 12:06 | <berli> | Q: anyone running mythtv on xbox? |
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| 12:12 | <gsfgf> | i don't have a capture control for my sound card (snd-cmipci). it's on the motherboard |
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| 12:18 | <mechou> | hey thor, you there? |
| 12:19 | <thor> | yup |
| 12:20 | <mechou> | thor, which distro do you use? and did you d'l qt from trolltech? |
| 12:20 | <thor> | slackware and yes |
| 12:21 | <mechou> | any special flags besides "-thread" I should use when configuring qt for compilation? other gotchas? |
| 12:22 | <thor> | just make sure to *read* ./configure --help and do everything it says. You need thread, and -sql-mysql (or whatever that flag is) |
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| 12:23 | <mechou> | about how long did compile take on your machine? |
| 12:23 | <thor> | hmm ... bout half an hour |
| 12:23 | <thor> | I think |
| 12:24 | <thor> | it's a while |
| 12:25 | <mechou> | you mentioned you use 3 diff qt versions. Are these on diff machines, or do you just use a different profile? |
| 12:25 | <thor> | one machine (dev) has 3 (I think) ... other has 2 |
| 12:26 | <thor> | I just change QTDIR |
| 12:27 | <mechou> | thor, what windows manager do you use in conjunction with myth? |
| 12:28 | <thor> | machine in the living room: fvwm |
| 12:29 | <thor> | dev machine, KDE |
| 12:30 | <mechou> | OK, so I'm about to comile qt 3.2 for threaded support. Sure hope I don't "break" anything.... |
| 12:31 | <thor> | you got the post beta one they released very recently |
| 12:31 | <thor> | as in yesterday |
| 12:32 | <mechou> | hmm, I d'l this morning at 1am PST |
| 12:32 | <thor> | also, there were some problems with 3.2 mentioned on the mailing list |
| 12:32 | <thor> | hang on |
| 12:35 | <thor> | hmmm ... that's odd ... can't find them |
| 12:35 | <just1nux> | anyone know why a master machine might freeze up entirely when connecting to a slave whose ethernet card it doesnt like? I have a slave machine that has internal ethernet. I have zero problems with the master machine as long as I use my 3 Com ethernet card in the slave, but using the internal ethernet in the slave causes the master to freeze entirely. I can't get a backtrace ofcouse because its froze. I know Issac always says tha |
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| 12:36 | <mechou> | thor, what, the complaints re qt3.2? or qt3.2 itself? |
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| 12:36 | <thor> | mechou, hang on ... searching my mail folder |
| 12:36 | <sfr> | thor: wasn't it s/t about utf8 character display? |
| 12:36 | <thor> | ah, probably |
| 12:36 | <thor> | that sounds familiar |
| 12:37 | <thor> | (I just *skim* a lot of messages) |
| 12:37 | <mechou> | sfr, so should I worry about that if I live in US? |
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| 12:38 | <sfr> | hm, maybe if you receive spanish stations? i'm not sure. |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | the xml parser may have problems with utf-8 characters |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | in 3.2 betas |
| 12:40 | <mechou> | just, what's the integrated nic chip? |
| 12:40 | <Chutt> | i don't know if it's a changed requirement or anything |
| 12:41 | <just1nux> | mechou: its a realtek something |
| 12:41 | <thor> | mechou, I'd just go ahead .. worse thing that can happen is you'll discover it's a problem and have to repeat for 3.1 |
| 12:42 | <Chutt> | the .xml files may just need to explicitly say they're using utf-8 is all |
| 12:42 | <thor> | ah ... |
| 12:42 | <mechou> | yeah, I'm going to live a bit dangerously. I think if crap happens I can always revert QTDIR.... |
| 12:42 | <thor> | yup |
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| 12:43 | <thor> | or re-install your distro =) |
| 12:43 | <mechou> | thor, heaven forbid.... |
| 12:44 | <mechou> | I'm too much in love w/ myth to sacrifice a working production (slave) machine.... |
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| 12:45 | <thor> | it's really not that complicated ... you're just compiling a library ... don't do anything silly like manually deleting files or something and you'll be fine |
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| 12:47 | <sfr> | mechou: got it! if you use the purplegalaxy theme your frontend will crash with this message:Error parsing: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/PurpleGalaxy/ui.xml |
| 12:47 | <sfr> | at line: 601 column: 17 tag mismatch Failed to get selector object.' might also happen with other themes. |
| 12:48 | <thor> | but you can fix it by editing the xml |
| 12:48 | <sfr> | this is s/b using qt 3.2b |
| 12:48 | <thor> | thanks sfr |
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| 15:02 | <sfr> | how should i proceed to support a different database schema (better another softwares db schema) in mythmusic? |
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| 15:03 | <bahadunn_> | trying to install the mythtv debs here and it keeps saying I need libqt3-mt which when I apt-get install libqt3-mt says its no longer available but here are the newer packages that replace it so I install them and mythtv debs still will not install |
| 15:04 | <bahadunn_> | what am I doing wrong |
| 15:04 | <bahadunn_> | I also have triedcopiling but when I do make it just says no rule to make target or something |
| 15:05 | <sfr> | nothing maybe, might be not-yet-updated dependencies in mdz's packages |
| 15:05 | <mdz_> | sfr: considering that I test-install them before I release them, probably not |
| 15:05 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: you're probably using the woody packages on unstable or vice-versa |
| 15:06 | <bahadunn_> | mdz_: yes |
| 15:06 | <thor> | sfr, what don't you like about the current one? |
| 15:06 | <bahadunn_> | I am running sid |
| 15:06 | <sfr> | mdz_ as bahadunn mentioned a newer package that replaces it i thought s/t might have changed |
| 15:07 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: there are separate packages for unstable; use those and they should work fine |
| 15:07 | <mdz_> | the qt packages are renamed in unstable |
| 15:07 | <bahadunn_> | mdz_: what directory are they in |
| 15:07 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: it's on the web page |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | there's a link right at the top that say |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | says |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | IF YOU ARE USING UNSTABLE, DO NOT USE THESE PACKAGES, USE THESE OTHERS INSTEAD |
| 15:08 | <bahadunn_> | oh |
| 15:08 | <mdz_> | and has a link |
| 15:08 | <sfr> | thor nothing really, it's just that i'm using netjuke for quite some time and would like to keep both in sync. (like playcount, playlists ...) |
| 15:08 | <bahadunn_> | I have been linking to your site from the documentation |
| 15:08 | <sfr> | thor sorry, i meant there's nothing i DON'T like. |
| 15:09 | <bahadunn_> | should I get the binary all |
| 15:09 | <mdz_> | the documentation links to the woody packages, which are on a page which has a link to the unstable packages |
| 15:09 | <bahadunn_> | or i386 |
| 15:09 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: use apt |
| 15:09 | <bahadunn_> | I dont konw what link to put for apt |
| 15:10 | <mdz_> | it is on the page |
| 15:10 | <bahadunn_> | what page |
| 15:10 | <mdz_> | the one that is linked from the documentation |
| 15:10 | <bahadunn_> | im looking at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu:8088/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
| 15:10 | <sfr> | thor, i started to add (more hack i guess) support for a different metadata source into mythmusic already. |
| 15:10 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: that is the correct page |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: on that page is a section titled INSTALLATION |
| 15:11 | <mdz_> | scroll down |
| 15:11 | <bahadunn_> | so just do deb he he |
| 15:11 | <bahadunn_> | helps to scroll down I suppose |
| 15:11 | <bahadunn_> | im doing this on a system with tv out |
| 15:11 | <bahadunn_> | things are a litlte blurry |
| 15:12 | <bahadunn_> | are all the addons available for debian? |
| 15:13 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 15:14 | <bahadunn_> | now it says that it depends on liblame0 |
| 15:14 | <bahadunn_> | which I just compiled lame |
| 15:15 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: the answers to all of your questions are on that web page |
| 15:15 | <mdz_> | please read it |
| 15:15 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 15:15 | <bahadunn_> | sorry |
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| 15:25 | <thor> | sfr, sorry ... was on a call ... for internet radio ? |
| 15:26 | <thor> | ah, netjuke |
| 15:26 | <thor> | don't know it |
| 15:27 | <thor> | sfr, it would be a fair bit of work to map to another schema ... possibly easier to have a scripted cron job do extracts and inserts |
| 15:29 | <sfr> | well, i don't mind the work, my problem is more what would be a clean way to do it. |
| 15:29 | <thor> | does netjuke use a db ? |
| 15:30 | <jhurliman> | thor: had a random programming question.. if you system("sh ascript.sh"); and that script kills the process that ran the system call, does the script die too? |
| 15:31 | <sfr> | yes see sourceforge.net/projects/netjuke, it supports mysql and other rdbms |
| 15:31 | <thor> | um ... probably ... you sure you don't want exec() ? |
| 15:31 | <jhurliman> | thor: not sure, what's the difference there? |
| 15:32 | <thor> | exec replaces the current process (usually after a fork) |
| 15:32 | <thor> | system just waits till system returns |
| 15:33 | <jhurliman> | ahh thanks |
| 15:34 | <jhurliman> | so if i called exec("sh ascript.sh"); from aprogram, aprogram would be killed at that command? |
| 15:34 | <thor> | sfr, metadata only loads and saves in one place if mmusic ... so you could out a call to gContext->getSetting(UseNetJukeMetadata), if off of that, and make your own loading/saving methods |
| 15:35 | <thor> | jhurliman, more or less ... although the details are a bit hazy (it's been a while). Man exec, man fork might help. |
| 15:35 | <jhurliman> | ok thanks :) |
| 15:36 | <sfr> | if i understand, i did that, except that i started adding lots of if () else to various methods/functions. So adding separate methods is preferred? |
| 15:38 | <thor> | sfr, like I said .. fair bit of working ... start with an if condition in the MetadataLoadingThread(), almost everything flows from there |
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| 15:41 | <bahadunn_> | sorry to be a pest but im having a little trouble setting up the mysql database |
| 15:41 | <bahadunn_> | I read the section in the docs about it but the commands dont work |
| 15:41 | <bahadunn_> | never done this before |
| 15:42 | <sfr> | thor ok, so i'll spend some more time on it and might post a patch on the -dev list to get flamed. |
| 15:42 | <thor> | cool |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | if you're using the debs, you don't need to setup the database. |
| 15:42 | <bahadunn_> | so just proceed to configureing mythtv? |
| 15:43 | <Chutt> | yes. |
| 15:44 | <bahadunn_> | thanks |
| 15:46 | <bahadunn_> | according to the docs I shoudl start the backend to configure it |
| 15:47 | <bahadunn_> | I get a error that says no network socket |
| 15:47 | <bahadunn_> | when I do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| 15:51 | <bahadunn_> | actually when I run the setup it said that the user mythtv@localhost with password YES is not valid |
| 15:51 | <bahadunn_> | access denied |
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| 15:59 | <mechou> | hey, just1nux, did you ever get a response on your integrated nic problem you brought up today? |
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| 16:07 | <moegreen> | Anyone seeing an improvement in MythWeather (i.e. Not getting nearly as many invalid areas/connect failures)? |
| 16:07 | <jhurliman> | Chutt: are you available? |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | jhurliman, sure. |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | moegreen, yeah, it works for me now, and the old code had basically stopped working entirely |
| 16:09 | <bahadunn_> | I keep getting access denied from mysql |
| 16:10 | <jhurliman> | Chutt: is mythtv.org hosting donated or do you pay for it? |
| 16:10 | <moegreen> | The person on the list said he was still having some problems, I had him recompile with debug on - so I can see what's going on, on his side. I haven't had any problems here |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | i pay for it partially |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | and it's paid up for the next 6 months or so :p |
| 16:11 | <jhurliman> | ahh |
| 16:15 | <mikegrb> | <Juliet> I'm fine, thank you for asking. And you, kind sir? |
| 16:15 | <mikegrb> | er |
| 16:15 | <mikegrb> | wrong window |
| 16:16 | <bahadunn_> | how do you change the password for mythtv that it uses to access mysql with? |
| 16:17 | <jhurliman> | there's a txt file in /usr/share/mythtv, something like mysql.txt |
| 16:17 | <bahadunn_> | k |
| 16:18 | <jhurliman> | Chutt: well I'll collect thoughts and shoot an e-mail to you, off to lunch now |
| 16:21 | <sfr> | bahadunn_: in the debs the file is in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
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| 16:26 | <bahadunn_> | where is the database folder located? |
| 16:30 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ ?? /var/lib/mysql if mean the mysql db files. |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | trying to set up the database |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | for mythtv |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | I ran this |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | mysql -u root < /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | ERROR 1046 at line 1: No Database Selected |
| 16:31 | <bahadunn_> | and thats the error |
| 16:32 | <sfr> | you don't need that, apt-get install mythtv-database will do everything for you. |
| 16:33 | <bahadunn_> | apt-get install mythtv-database |
| 16:33 | <bahadunn_> | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 16:33 | <bahadunn_> | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 16:33 | <bahadunn_> | Sorry, mythtv-database is already the newest version. |
| 16:33 | <sfr> | you already did that, obviously |
| 16:33 | <bahadunn_> | yes |
| 16:34 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database |
| 16:34 | <bahadunn_> | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is broken or not fully installed |
| 16:34 | <bahadunn_> | I tried to reconfigure it |
| 16:34 | <bahadunn_> | but thats the error |
| 16:35 | <sfr> | maybe try to purge it and reinstall, but why did it fail the first time? |
| 16:35 | <bahadunn_> | sfr: no clue |
| 16:37 | <bahadunn_> | it wont let me remove it |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | apt-get --purge remove mythtv-database |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-database* |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 487 not upgraded. |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 123kB will be freed. |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | (Reading database ... 120822 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Removing mythtv-database ... |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Purging configuration files for mythtv-database ... |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1. |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--purge): |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 255 |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-database |
| 16:39 | <bahadunn_> | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 16:41 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ btw, did you change the mysql.txt file before? |
| 16:41 | <bahadunn_> | yes |
| 16:42 | <sfr> | change it back and try again |
| 16:42 | <bahadunn_> | change it backto what |
| 16:42 | <bahadunn_> | I dont remember what it use to be |
| 16:42 | <bahadunn_> | :( |
| 16:43 | <sfr> | np, wouldn't work anyway, just remembered. |
| 16:43 | <mechou> | phucking mandrake....Just recompiled qt with "-thread" flag and now myth seems to compile successfully. |
| 16:44 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ for mythtv-database.postrm. it's there? |
| 16:44 | <mechou> | really wonder why mandrake didn't use that flag in the first place.... |
| 16:44 | <bahadunn_> | yes |
| 16:44 | <bahadunn_> | its there |
| 16:45 | <sfr> | can you send it to me? |
| 16:45 | <mechou> | that distro is really foobared when it comes to threads. gdb doesn't work, qt not compiled with thread flag.... |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | yes |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | I can |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | how? |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | paste it |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | its kinda long |
| 16:46 | <sfr> | use dcc? |
| 16:46 | <gsfgf> | does anyone here use the snd-cmipci driver? |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 16:46 | <bahadunn_> | can I paste it in flood? |
| 16:47 | <mechou> | gsf, yeah, I think I tried it.... |
| 16:47 | <sfr> | sorry, not an IRC expert, how do i use flood? ;-) |
| 16:47 | <bahadunn_> | just join the #flood channel |
| 16:47 | <sfr> | go on |
| 16:48 | <bahadunn_> | htats it |
| 16:48 | <bahadunn_> | just join flood |
| 16:48 | <sfr> | yes, got that, :-) you can post it now. |
| 16:51 | <bahadunn_> | posted |
| 16:51 | <bahadunn_> | I cant find any reference to YES in that |
| 16:51 | <bahadunn_> | for that password |
| 16:52 | <mechou> | crap, spoke too soon. myth cvs still doesn't compile correctly even with qt-mt... |
| 16:53 | <sfr> | bahdunn_ ok, in the case statement, in the purge case, add 'exit 0' just before DoSQL (right after databse="$RET" |
| 16:53 | <thor> | mechou, whats it do? |
| 16:54 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ then again 'dpkg --purge mythtv-database' |
| 16:54 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
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| 16:55 | <mechou> | thor, I'm still getting "QMutex error" when compiling myth... |
| 16:56 | <mechou> | I id a make distclean and am recompiling myth now.... |
| 16:56 | <mechou> | s/id/did |
| 16:57 | <thor> | make distclean, ./configure, make |
| 16:57 | <mechou> | I'll paste the exact error message when it comes up... |
| 16:57 | <bahadunn_> | still got errors |
| 16:57 | <mechou> | thor, that's what I meant.... |
| 16:58 | <thor> | with qt libs ldconfiged and QTDIR pointed in the right place |
| 16:58 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ which? |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg --purge mythtv-database |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | (Reading database ... 120822 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Removing mythtv-database ... |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Purging configuration files for mythtv-database ... |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv-database.postrm: line 62: exit 0: command not found |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--purge): |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-database |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | i put it right after dpkg --purge mythtv-database |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | (Reading database ... 120822 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Removing mythtv-database ... |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Purging configuration files for mythtv-database ... |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv-database.postrm: line 62: exit 0: command not found |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--purge): |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:58 | <mechou> | thor, yup, sure 'eno, /usr/local/qt |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-database |
| 16:58 | <bahadunn_> | dang |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | holdo n |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | sorry about that |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | I put it right after that database='RET" or whatever |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | like you said |
| 16:59 | <thor> | mechou, libqt-mt is where ? |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | I tabbed it in |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | should I have done that |
| 16:59 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 16:59 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ ok, can you send me this file? |
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| 17:00 | <bahadunn_> | yes |
| 17:00 | <mechou> | thor, libqt-mt is in /usr/local/qt/lib |
| 17:00 | <bahadunn_> | how do I dcc it |
| 17:00 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 17:00 | <bahadunn_> | let me dump it up on my ftp site |
| 17:00 | <bahadunn_> | hold on |
| 17:01 | <thor> | mechou, which is in /etc/ld.so.conf and ldconfig has been run? |
| 17:01 | <mechou> | thor, do I need to do a ldconfig after making libqt-mt? (I did it beforehand....) |
| 17:01 | <thor> | mechou, safer to |
| 17:02 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 17:02 | <bahadunn_> | sfr: ftp to bahadunn.homelinux.com |
| 17:02 | <bahadunn_> | and look in pub |
| 17:02 | <bahadunn_> | its right there |
| 17:02 | <thor> | but /etc/ld.so.conf has to know where to look first |
| 17:02 | <mechou> | yeah, I changed ld.so.conf before I recompile qt-mt |
| 17:03 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ remove the quotes |
| 17:04 | <thor> | to include /usr/local/qt/lib ? |
| 17:04 | <thor> | (sorry being a bit pedantic) |
| 17:04 | <mechou> | thor, sure enou' |
| 17:04 | <thor> | k |
| 17:04 | <thor> | ldconfig, then ./configure, make |
| 17:04 | <bahadunn_> | so 'exit 0' should be exit 0 |
| 17:04 | <mechou> | naw, it's ok. Need to cover _all_ the bases.... |
| 17:05 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ yes |
| 17:05 | * sfr | works in customer support, so should have expected this :-) |
| 17:05 | <bahadunn_> | ok it worked |
| 17:05 | <bahadunn_> | he he |
| 17:06 | <bahadunn_> | I would be better att his if I would learn some shell programming |
| 17:06 | <bahadunn_> | but I haven't gotten around ot it yet |
| 17:06 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ now type 'mysql -p -u root' on the box running mysql |
| 17:06 | <bahadunn_> | sfr: so now just apt-get install mythtv-database? |
| 17:06 | <bahadunn_> | oh ok |
| 17:06 | <mechou> | thor, but your were wrong about qt compile time... It's closer to 1.5 hrs....;) |
| 17:06 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ you know the password, right? |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | I hope so |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | :) |
| 17:07 | <thor> | mechou, cpu? |
| 17:07 | <mechou> | on a not to shabby XP2100+ |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | dang it |
| 17:07 | <thor> | wow |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | it says access denied |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | i used the right password |
| 17:07 | <mechou> | with 512MB ram |
| 17:07 | <bahadunn_> | it is using the wrong one for mysql |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | when I type mysql I get into a mysql prompt |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | then you don't have a password. |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | oh |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | yep |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | thats right |
| 17:08 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ ok, now you have to drop the mythtv db. |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | im in |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | did you give it one when the mythtv-database installed? |
| 17:08 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: all you had to do was dpkg-reconfigure --force |
| 17:08 | <bahadunn_> | Chutt: I dont know to be honest |
| 17:09 | <bahadunn_> | so shoudl I install mythtv-database back |
| 17:09 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 17:09 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ type 'drop database mythconverg;' |
| 17:09 | <mdz_> | I am resisting a very strong temptation to respond with a snide remark |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | mdz, see, you really need that 'THIS IS NOT YOUR ROOT PASSWORD, DUMBASS' message in there |
| 17:09 | <mechou> | thor, you know how to compile qt w/o all those examples, just in case I need to do this again? |
| 17:09 | <mdz_> | Chutt: is that what happened here? |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | mdz, probably |
| 17:09 | <bahadunn_> | drop database mythconverg; |
| 17:09 | <bahadunn_> | ERROR 1008: Can't drop database 'mythconverg'. Database doesn't exist |
| 17:10 | <mechou> | would cut down on compile time.... |
| 17:10 | <sfr> | mdz_, well never had to use force so never remeber it |
| 17:10 | <thor> | mechou, not really ... there's some flag for -quick (or something like that), but I've never figured it out |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | people that try to help out and don't know what they're doing end up hurting more than they're helping :p |
| 17:10 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ thats ok, type 'quit;' and reinstall mythtv-database, mdz_ wanna take over? |
| 17:10 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I find it incredible that people who don't read instructions manage to install Debian |
| 17:11 | <bahadunn_> | ok im installing it back |
| 17:11 | <sfr> | mdz_ me? ;-) |
| 17:11 | <mdz_> | sfr: no |
| 17:11 | <mdz_> | the dozens of people who try to tell me that the packages are broken because they don't answer the prompts correctly |
| 17:11 | <bahadunn_> | errors again |
| 17:11 | <bahadunn_> | on reinstall |
| 17:11 | <sfr> | but still applies, instructions are for luser who can't handle challenges, hehe |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | apt-get install mythtv-database |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Sorry, mythtv-database is already the newest version. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 487 not upgraded. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | 1 packages not fully installed or removed. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Setting up mythtv-database (0.10-3) ... |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?) |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 240, <> line 1. |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--configure): |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-database |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 17:12 | <mdz_> | you didn't reinstall anything |
| 17:12 | <mechou> | thor, ok. Sigh of relief. Myth compiled successfully. Either "distclean" or ldconfig after libqt-mt build did the trick.... |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | I did apt-get install mythtv-database |
| 17:12 | <thor> | mechou, yah! |
| 17:12 | <bahadunn_> | what else am I do to? |
| 17:12 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: run dpkg-reconfigure --force -plow mythtv-database |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | bahadunn, basically, you told it to use a password to talk to mysql, and you don't have a password set for mysql. |
| 17:13 | <mechou> | thor & chutt, thanks for all the help.... |
| 17:13 | <mdz_> | that is the last question I am going to answer |
| 17:13 | <sfr> | mdz_ i had him add a 'exit 0' in the postrm script! |
| 17:13 | <bahadunn_> | ok |
| 17:13 | <bahadunn_> | it says |
| 17:13 | <bahadunn_> | what is the name of the mysql root account |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | sfr, why did you do that? |
| 17:13 | <mdz_> | Chutt: it tries to drop the database when you purge it |
| 17:13 | <sfr> | mdz_ in the purge section before calling DoSQL. |
| 17:13 | <mdz_> | which of course fails if the user did not answer the prompts correctly |
| 17:14 | <mechou> | mandrake still sux, tho.... |
| 17:14 | <mdz_> | I'm going to remove that in the next version |
| 17:14 | <bahadunn_> | it still says access denied |
| 17:14 | <bahadunn_> | even though i put no password |
| 17:14 | <sfr> | mdz_ the purge will continiou , yes? |
| 17:14 | <bahadunn_> | says password is still YES |
| 17:14 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: the password is still there from last time. hold down the backspace key for a while on that prompt |
| 17:15 | <mdz_> | it is there but not displayed |
| 17:15 | <bahadunn_> | k |
| 17:15 | <bahadunn_> | same thing |
| 17:15 | <mechou> | when I decided on mandrake I didn't want to d'l half the world and "make" stuff myself.... |
| 17:16 | <sfr> | mdz_ so what's the mistake people keep doing during the installation, giving the wrong root passoword on install? |
| 17:16 | <mdz_> | sfr: yes |
| 17:16 | <bahadunn_> | dpkg-reconfigure --force -plow mythtv-database |
| 17:16 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1. |
| 17:17 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?) |
| 17:17 | <bahadunn_> | Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 240, <> line 1. |
| 17:17 | <mdz_> | sfr: in the first iterations of the package, that was a low-priority question, so by default it wouldn't even be displayed |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | if you don't stop pasting the same stuff, you're going to be removed from the channel. |
| 17:17 | <bahadunn_> | I thought we already established that my root password was blank |
| 17:17 | <bahadunn_> | so why when I put blank does it do this |
| 17:17 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 17:17 | <mdz_> | sfr: but it turned out that a lot of people would change their mysql root password anyway for some reason, and it would fail because it assumed it was blank |
| 17:17 | <Chutt> | because it's not overwriting the old password you put it |
| 17:17 | <sfr> | mdz_ hm, fix the debconf 'cache'? |
| 17:17 | <mdz_> | sfr: rm /var/cache/debconf/*.dat |
| 17:18 | <bahadunn_> | I never put YES as a paswword |
| 17:18 | <bahadunn_> | it was just always there |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | YES means it's using a password |
| 17:18 | <mdz_> | sfr: but there will only be more problems after that, I'm sure |
| 17:18 | <Chutt> | not that YES is the password. |
| 17:18 | <bahadunn_> | oh |
| 17:18 | <bahadunn_> | so how do I get rid of the password |
| 17:18 | <sfr> | mdz_ what about just changing mythtv mysql root password in there? |
| 17:18 | <bahadunn_> | yeah |
| 17:18 | <mdz_> | sfr: too risky |
| 17:19 | <bahadunn_> | so can I blank the password |
| 17:19 | <bahadunn_> | ? |
| 17:19 | <sfr> | can't be, it worked for me, once. |
| 17:19 | <mdz_> | sfr: you are apparently able to answer simple questions |
| 17:20 | <sfr> | mdz_ so deleting this *.dat file is save for bahadunn_ ? |
| 17:20 | <mdz_> | sfr: yes |
| 17:20 | <mdz_> | it is only a cache |
| 17:20 | <bahadunn_> | so how do I do that |
| 17:20 | <bahadunn_> | im so lost |
| 17:20 | <mdz_> | by definition, anything in /var/cache can be deleted and the program which created it must be able to continue to work |
| 17:20 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: tivo? |
| 17:21 | <sfr> | :-))) |
| 17:21 | <bahadunn_> | what about it |
| 17:21 | <sfr> | see their website |
| 17:21 | <gsfgf> | can anyone help me with an alsa problem |
| 17:21 | <bahadunn_> | there is nothing in my /var/cache/mythtv directory |
| 17:21 | <gsfgf> | i don't have a capture control |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | gsfgf, so? |
| 17:22 | <mdz_> | This information will be used to create a database and user for MythTV. THIS PASSWORD IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ROOT PASSWORD FOR YOUR SYSTEM. Unless you have explicitly changed the password on the MySQL server, LEAVETHIS BLANK. |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | not all cards have them |
| 17:22 | <mdz_> | Chutt: whadaya think? |
| 17:22 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ on mdz_ advise 'rm /var/cache/debconf/*.dat' |
| 17:22 | <gsfgf> | Chutt: i'm not getting any sound in myth |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | mdz, sure, looks good to me |
| 17:22 | <gsfgf> | i have line-in muted and set to capture |
| 17:22 | <mdz_> | of course, that last sentence was already there and has been for a long time |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | gsfgf, make sure you can record audio outside of it. |
| 17:22 | <mdz_> | and should be more than sufficient |
| 17:22 | <mdz_> | but nobody reads it |
| 17:22 | <mechou> | gsf, that's cause u got a cmipci |
| 17:22 | <Chutt> | mdz, but people are dumb. |
| 17:23 | <mdz_> | it was in lower case before, that must be the problem |
| 17:23 | <gsfgf> | mechou: is there a way to make it work with myth |
| 17:23 | <mechou> | capture on that chip sux. |
| 17:23 | * Snow-Man | smirks. |
| 17:23 | <mdz_> | Just for kicks, I ran a dpkg-reconfigure on an existing mythtv-database, entered a wrong root password, let it fail, dpkg-reconfigured it and backspaced a bunch at the password prompt, and it worked perfectly |
| 17:23 | <gsfgf> | mechou: so i should try a new card |
| 17:24 | <mechou> | gsf, I had better luck (IIRC) with OSS on that chip.... |
| 17:24 | <mdz_> | it took about 6 seconds |
| 17:24 | <bahadunn_> | seems to have worked |
| 17:24 | <mechou> | gsf: basically, yes... |
| 17:24 | <gsfgf> | mechou: i couldn't get it working with oss either |
| 17:24 | <sfr> | mdz_ didn't know about this backspace trick |
| 17:24 | * gsfgf | digs through old cards to find ensoniq |
| 17:24 | <mechou> | gsf: or use btaudio if it's available to you... |
| 17:25 | <bahadunn_> | now run mythtv-setup? |
| 17:25 | <gsfgf> | btaudio? |
| 17:25 | <bahadunn_> | he he |
| 17:25 | <bahadunn_> | no database |
| 17:25 | <bahadunn_> | so I guess it didnt work |
| 17:26 | <mechou> | gsf: better look thru archives re esoniq. I faintly recall they might have problems too... (don't quote me) |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | mythtv-setup |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Unable to connect to database! |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Driver error was [1/-1]: |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Database error was: |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Unable to open database: |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Driver error was: |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Database error was: |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | bahadunn, why the fuck are you pasting things twice? |
| 17:26 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ read the FAQ! |
| 17:26 | <mdz_> | I feel a ban coming on |
| 17:26 | <gsfgf> | mechou: im gonna try is as its the only pci soundcard i have |
| 17:26 | <bahadunn_> | sorry |
| 17:26 | <mechou> | gsf: you gotta read the mythtv docs re btaudio. |
| 17:26 | <sfr> | or maybe not? |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | bahadunn, if you want to stay in here, you have to stop acting like an idiot. |
| 17:27 | <bahadunn_> | you guys arent very helpful |
| 17:27 | <sfr> | Chutt, with this attitude mythtv will never surpass freevos userbase. |
| 17:28 | <mechou> | gsf: you couldn't get it (cmi) to record at all, or was it just poor quality sound (noisy or low volume)? |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | sfr, err, it did a long time ago |
| 17:28 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: you obviously screwed up the configuration in mysql.txt, which it had set up automatically for you |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | except for sfr who has made an honest attempt to help me |
| 17:28 | <sfr> | Chutt, but you don't care anyway |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | which i appreciate |
| 17:28 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: because you a) didn't follow the instructions on the website, b) didn't listen to people trying to help you, and c) didn't read the documentation |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | you guys have a poor attitude |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | mdz_: the docs on the website suck |
| 17:28 | <sfr> | Chutt really? got numbers. |
| 17:28 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: wah wah wah |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | to be honest |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | sfr, hell, just compare mailing list traffic |
| 17:28 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: that is bullshit |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | well Ir ead them |
| 17:28 | <bahadunn_> | and did my best to follow |
| 17:28 | <mechou> | now if that's not the kettle calling the pot black.... |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | black black black |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | bahadunn, you're pasting in tons of crap into the channel that you don't need to. |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | well I wont do that anymore |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | but even when I didnt dot hat |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | you didn't even intsall the right package in the first place |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | from days ago when I came in here looking for help |
| 17:29 | <mdz_> | if you had, you wouldn't have needed to install mythtv-database separately |
| 17:29 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ did dpkg --purge mythtv-database work before? |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | you guys had a bad attitude |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | like you expect everyone to know everyting already |
| 17:29 | <bahadunn_> | sfr: yes it sure did |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | if you want actual tech support, send me a check |
| 17:30 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: a bad attitude is walking into a forum expecting everyone to give you free tech support |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | i'll be glad to bill you |
| 17:30 | <bahadunn_> | I would not send you a check if my life depended on it |
| 17:30 | <bahadunn_> | not for this shitty service |
| 17:30 | <mdz_> | bahadunn_: you've been here for 2.5 hours already getting free support |
| 17:30 | <mdz_> | and bitching about it |
| 17:30 | <bahadunn_> | I give tech support for free |
| 17:30 | <mechou> | sigh... |
| 17:30 | <bahadunn_> | I help linux people out all the time and dont ask for anything |
| 17:30 | <Chutt> | who could you possibly help? |
| 17:31 | <Chutt> | you can't read. |
| 17:31 | <moegreen> | heh |
| 17:31 | <bahadunn_> | Chutt: well everyone can see how ignorant you are because if I cant read how the hell am I responding to you |
| 17:31 | <bahadunn_> | duh |
| 17:31 | <mdz_> | you have pissed on the efforts of a lot of people who have spent their time writing documentation for you already |
| 17:31 | <sfr> | bahadunn_ dpkg --purge mythtv-* take a day off and start again. |
| 17:31 | <mechou> | this is juvenile... |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | yes, it is |
| 17:32 | <Chutt> | if i weren't too lazy to identify myself with nickserv =) |
| 17:32 | <bahadunn_> | well I would expect as such from what i have seen |
| 17:32 | <mdz_> | it builds up over time |
| 17:32 | * tmk | blinks |
| 17:32 | <mikegrb> | hmmm |
| 17:32 | <tmk> | children, please |
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| 17:33 | <mdz_> | thanks |
| 17:33 | <mechou> | yeah, good riddance... |
| 17:33 | <tmk> | what got into him? |
| 17:33 | <mikegrb> | his ignorance |
| 17:33 | <mechou> | he was being a dork... |
| 17:34 | <tmk> | One entry found for dork. |
| 17:34 | <tmk> | Main Entry: dork |
| 17:34 | <tmk> | Pronunciation: 'dork |
| 17:34 | <tmk> | Function: noun |
| 17:34 | <tmk> | Etymology: perhaps alteration of dick |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:34 | <gsfgf> | i don't hve the example conf file for btaudio that 's refrenced in the docs. can anyone help me out? |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | gsfgf, you don't need one |
| 17:34 | <Chutt> | just 'modprobe btaudio' |
| 17:34 | <gsfgf> | ok thx |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | set your sound capture device to the digital dsp it creates (look in your syslog) |
| 17:35 | <gsfgf> | is it a kernel driver or alsa? |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | and make sure it's set to 32000Hz in setup |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | it's a kernel driver |
| 17:35 | <gsfgf> | ok |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | if it doesn't work right off, it won't work at all |
| 17:35 | <mechou> | gsf, you need to make sure you got a card that at least supports MSP3400 (or something like that) |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | so don't spend tons of time on it :p |
| 17:35 | <Chutt> | but it's easy to test, so it doesn't hurt |
| 17:35 | <tmk> | ugh.. msp chips |
| 17:36 | * tmk | has flashbacks of whine and autodetection |
| 17:36 | <mechou> | tmk, why do you say that? beats not having any.... |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | flashbacks? :p |
| 17:37 | <gsfgf> | i have an msp3400 driver that loads clean so it looks promising |
| 17:37 | <mechou> | there you go... |
| 17:38 | <tmk> | Chutt: :( |
| 17:38 | <mikegrb> | congrats gsfgf :-) sorry I couldn't help you more last night... I should have thought to ask you what tuner card you had <g> |
| 17:38 | <tmk> | mechou: we have a "branched" msp driver in the ivtv project |
| 17:39 | <tmk> | it's had.. problems |
| 17:39 | <gsfgf> | mikegrb: it's cool |
| 17:39 | <gsfgf> | btw, do recordings made before i got this working have sound |
| 17:39 | <mechou> | most likely not (or very low volume) |
| 17:40 | <gsfgf> | oh well, i only got 1 recording made after i realized that i needed to set my computer's clock :) |
| 17:40 | <gsfgf> | everything ese was off by a few hours |
| 17:40 | <mechou> | gsf: you still didn't answer my q, you couldn't get cmi to record at all, or you just got poor quality sound? |
| 17:41 | <gsfgf> | mechou: no sound at all |
| 17:41 | <mechou> | then you messed up somehow, cmi does record, but at low volume levels... |
| 17:41 | <gsfgf> | oh |
| 17:42 | <mechou> | not that it matters much to you now since you now have working btaudio |
| 17:42 | <gsfgf> | ok |
| 17:44 | <mechou> | tmk, how did btaudio driver guys get msp to work? They had better specs or access to chip specs? |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:48 | <Chutt> | are all websites hosted at sourceforge mostly down? |
| 17:48 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: ivtv just took a long time to return |
| 17:48 | <jkolb> | In perpetuity. |
| 17:54 | <mdz_> | Chutt: dunno, I long ago made a smartbookmark which takes me directly to the subdirectory for the named project on a local mirror |
| 17:55 | <mdz_> | where I can download tarballs in peace |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=283239 |
| 17:55 | <Chutt> | rkulagow, someone liked your docs :p |
| 17:55 | <mdz_> | without meta refreshes or anything else |
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| 17:56 | <Chutt> | mdz, i was more trying to get to the oz website |
| 17:57 | <mdz_> | Chutt: why? to use the wiki? ;-) |
| 17:57 | <mdz_> | http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/openzaurus/ |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | feeds |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | unstable was just updated w/ the new(er) opie |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | mechou: they probably have a simpler msp configuration |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | we're using the kernel's msp driver, but added a few calls |
| 18:03 | <mdz_> | oh, they serve the feeds off of sourceforge? ouch |
| 18:03 | <tmk> | theoretically, the msp driver with btaudio shuold have the same problem |
| 18:03 | <Chutt> | they're at least linked to from there |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | ugh |
| 18:04 | <tmk> | sf.net keeps sucking |
| 18:04 | <thor> | tautological |
| 18:05 | <mechou> | tmk, so you're saying the kernel msp driver is buggy? |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | yes! |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | i'd offer hosting, but snowman hasn't worked out the cvs access issues yet =) |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | sweet of you |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | how much bandwich to you have |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | terrabyte/month |
| 18:05 | <tmk> | does it matter the speed at which you use it? ie 95th percentile or w/e |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | shared with 5 or 6 people, but mythtv's the largest single user |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | by _far_ |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | and there's shittons left over |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | tmk, i believe they just multiple the average bandwidth at the end of the month |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | multiply |
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| 18:12 | <mdz_> | heh, there is a file called go_to_www.openzaurus.org in that directory |
| 18:12 | <mdz_> | but I can see that file, while www.openzaurus.org is down, so it is bad advice :-P |
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| 18:19 | <Markos> | hello |
| 18:20 | <Markos> | is anybody having issues with the myth weather module? |
| 18:20 | <thor> | only when its raining |
| 18:20 | <thor> | =) |
| 18:20 | <Markos> | haha |
| 18:21 | <Markos> | it worked the first time, but now it doesnt work and i was wondering if its my setup or are the servers down |
| 18:21 | <Markos> | the servers that it grabs the weather from that is |
| 18:22 | <thor> | it had some problems that were very recently fixed in cvs |
| 18:23 | <Markos> | hmm, i wonder if those are the problems i am experencing |
| 18:23 | <Markos> | MythWeather: Invalid Area or Fatal Error. |
| 18:23 | <thor> | lots of improvements ... |
| 18:24 | <Peit|Home> | Chutt: you have a 250, rather than a 350 do you now? |
| 18:24 | <Markos> | its already pretty cool |
| 18:24 | <Markos> | well, when it works :p |
| 18:25 | <thor> | Peit|Home, I think he has both |
| 18:25 | <Peit|Home> | tmk: if you want hosting, yell at me next week |
| 18:25 | <Peit|Home> | it may not be fast, but it's continuous |
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| 18:29 | <tmk> | i don't need hosting really |
| 18:29 | <tmk> | sf.net is ok, jsut slow :< |
| 18:29 | <tmk> | i might be interested in movign CVS off |
| 18:29 | <tmk> | that's about it |
| 18:33 | <Peit|Home> | anyhow, i'm off to bed, night all |
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| 18:35 | <tmk> | hey chutt |
| 18:36 | <Chutt> | aye? |
| 18:36 | <moegreen> | Markos: try updating to cvs, it *should* fix your issue :) |
| 18:36 | <Chutt> | moegreen, do you mind if i move the inetcomms stuff to libmyth? |
| 18:36 | <moegreen> | Chutt: nope |
| 18:36 | <tmk> | Chutt: supposedly the decoder supports yuv |
| 18:36 | <Chutt> | right, so you could theoretically display arbitrary data to it |
| 18:36 | <tmk> | so it may be possible to use the pvr as an output for anything, though at no cpu savings |
| 18:37 | <Chutt> | right |
| 18:37 | <Markos> | moegreen: thanks, I'll try it out |
| 18:37 | <Chutt> | i saw that in the docs on the ivtv site |
| 18:37 | <tmk> | :) |
| 18:37 | <Chutt> | i'd be worried 'bout a/v sync, though |
| 18:37 | <tmk> | quite |
| 18:37 | <tmk> | that's a problem for a different API |
| 18:38 | <Chutt> | can you send raw audio to the card to play? |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | no |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | not htat i've seen |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | you could re-encode to mpg heh |
| 18:39 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | perhaps its undocumented |
| 18:39 | <tmk> | or perhaps you can send an mpg audio stream |
| 18:39 | <Chutt> | that may require re-encoding |
| 18:40 | <Chutt> | and i'd _really_ be worried about sync then =) |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | heh |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | just put in an option to adjust audio forwards/backwards |
| 18:40 | <Chutt> | eh, that gets annoying, though |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | there's also a frame counter |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | i can add an api call for that |
| 18:40 | <tmk> | pts etc |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 18:41 | <tmk> | it's a bit early |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | i need to hook the -350 up to a tv so i can play with things |
| 18:41 | <tmk> | i'll be doing the plain v4l2 stuff where applicible |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | i don't mind non-v4l2 apis |
| 18:41 | <Chutt> | just so long as they don't change =) |
| 18:42 | <tmk> | well |
| 18:42 | <tmk> | v4l2 is supposedly thought-out already |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | yeah, right |
| 18:42 | <tmk> | so as much as possible i'll try and use it |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | like i believe that |
| 18:42 | <tmk> | i don't trust myself to create an api on the fly :) |
| 18:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | if you want to have a bit of a meeting and hash out what you'd like |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | and such |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | that could be productive |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | next week sometime |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | or tomorrow |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 18:43 | <Chutt> | not tomorrow |
| 18:43 | <tmk> | k |
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| 20:01 | <mechou> | so is xmltv5.15 safe to use with latest cvs? |
| 20:02 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 20:02 | <Chutt> | but it's only safe if you can find my pvr-350 output adapter thingie |
| 20:03 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: it's over there |
| 20:03 | <mikegrb> | ----> |
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| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | especially porn |
| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | er |
| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:06 | <Chutt> | you need to use a different irc client or something |
| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | talking about mpaa |
| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:06 | <mikegrb> | irssi is the best |
| 20:07 | <mikegrb> | prob is I have this over #slashdot on slashnet |
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| 20:07 | <mikegrb> | it has one line for text entry at the bottom regardless of which window you are typing too |
| 20:16 | <Chutt> | tmk, around? |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | kinda |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | bout to not be |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | sup? |
| 20:20 | <Chutt> | how do you get the decoder working? |
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| 20:20 | <tmk> | cat file > /dev/video1 |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | or video0 |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | whatever your card is |
| 20:20 | <tmk> | you also need to load sa7127 first |
| 20:21 | <krazie> | what can be done when there is no video only audio when running mythtv? |
| 20:21 | <tmk> | insmod saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 |
| 20:21 | <tmk> | for composite out on ntsc |
| 20:22 | <Chutt> | sh |
| 20:22 | <Chutt> | err, ah |
| 20:22 | <Chutt> | jerky |
| 20:22 | <tmk> | use dd |
| 20:22 | <tmk> | dd if=file of=/dev/video0 bs=65536 |
| 20:23 | <krazie> | tmk: are you talking to me? |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | that works |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | looks real nice, too |
| 20:23 | <Chutt> | krazie, no, he wasn't |
| 20:24 | <tmk> | chut:: heh everyone says it looks nice |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | well, looks better than the epia-m's tv out, that's for sure |
| 20:24 | * mikegrb | sends chutt a cardboard box full of peanuts with a pre-paid shipping label on the side |
| 20:24 | <vektor613> | what, does pvr-250 output work now? |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:24 | <tmk> | ok i gotta go now |
| 20:24 | <Chutt> | vektor613, -350 |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | tmk, thanks =) |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | heh pvr250 has no tvout |
| 20:25 | <vektor613> | Chutt: sorry, i drank a bunch at dinner |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | vektor, and, kinda =) |
| 20:25 | * vektor613 | at OLS |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | playback with 0 cpu |
| 20:25 | <vektor613> | confz roxor |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | nice |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | tmk, will this record _and_ playback at the same time? |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | not this one |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | alpha |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | you can try |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | but eventually? |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | i hear it locks though |
| 20:25 | <Chutt> | the card can handle it? |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | yeah i don't see why not |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | if you want i bet you can get yuv, mpg, and decode |
| 20:25 | <tmk> | if you're into that sort of thing |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | oh and vbi |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | it won't let you |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | what won't |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | cat: /dev/video0: Device or resource busy |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | hehe |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | ah well |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | so, no lock at least |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | it'll work later, |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | for sure |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | nice work |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | :) |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | can't wait for the rest of it |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | well, i can, as that means more coding for me |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | but.. |
| 20:26 | <tmk> | k bye now |
| 20:26 | <Chutt> | later |
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| 20:43 | <grogan> | can anyone tell me why myth is just showing me a black screen with no picture when I go into livetv mode? |
| 20:43 | <grogan> | (debian unstable) |
| 20:43 | <Chutt> | what's it say on the console? |
| 20:44 | <grogan> | I just set this up... |
| 20:44 | <grogan> | Chutt: I will check.. just a moment... |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | both backend and frontend. |
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| 20:45 | <krazie> | I get no video |
| 20:45 | <krazie> | only audio in mythtv |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | you're probably not getting audio, either. |
| 20:46 | <krazie> | I do get audio |
| 20:46 | <krazie> | well at first I got audio |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | no, you're most likely just listening to the pass-through. |
| 20:46 | <grogan> | hmm.. I am getting different messages than the one I was getting before (which I can't remember now) |
| 20:46 | <krazie> | oh |
| 20:46 | <krazie> | yes I see what you mean |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | krazie, there's usually error messages on the console |
| 20:46 | <grogan> | but it looks like it's one of those "can't open audio" issues... |
| 20:46 | <Chutt> | grogan, that'd do it |
| 20:46 | <grogan> | it's funny, tho, because I wasn't getting that message before.. |
| 20:46 | <grogan> | I'll tinker some more and see what I can figure out |
| 20:47 | <thor> | ah, that's better: http://www.sigvaldason.com/mythdvd_teaser.png |
| 20:47 | <Chutt> | thor, nifty. |
| 20:47 | <thor> | definitely making some progress ... |
| 20:55 | <mikegrb> | thor is going to make me buy a dvd drive for my myth box <g> |
| 20:55 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 20:56 | <thor> | I think I'm going to make myself buy a burner before too long |
| 20:56 | <mikegrb> | though with the move I've finally convinced my wife we don't need the dvds so I can just rip them all and ship to one of our parents in a box |
| 20:56 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 20:56 | <mikegrb> | that is the next step |
| 20:57 | <thor> | not only can I bore people with videos of the baby, I can burn them a copy on the spot ! |
| 20:58 | <Chutt> | so you're going to make the mtd handle burning too? =) |
| 20:58 | <thor> | not this evening ! |
| 20:59 | <mikegrb> | tommorow? |
| 20:59 | <mikegrb> | ;) |
| 21:07 | <Timon> | thor, where does the "Please Wait" in music come when going to mythmusic->play music |
| 21:17 | <thor> | Timon, it's in the music-ui.xml file (context) |
| 21:18 | <Timon> | I got that part, but what invokes it? |
| 21:18 | <thor> | ah, ... |
| 21:19 | <Timon> | I tried searching for mm_waiting but couldn't find it |
| 21:19 | <thor> | one sec ... |
| 21:19 | <thor> | checkForPlaylists() |
| 21:20 | <thor> | checkForPlaylists() |
| 21:20 | <thor> | ? |
| 21:20 | <thor> | leaves context as 0 ... |
| 21:20 | <Timon> | I looked there, but couldn't see anything which would popup a widget |
| 21:20 | <thor> | if playlists and metadata objects aren't ready |
| 21:21 | <thor> | you start out in context 0 |
| 21:21 | <thor> | which shows Please Wait |
| 21:21 | <thor> | once things are ready, you switch to context = 1 or 2 |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | if(first_playlist_check) |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | { |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | first_playlist_check = false; |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | repaint(); |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | return; |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | } |
| 21:21 | <thor> | (depending on ShowWholeTree) |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | ??? |
| 21:21 | <Timon> | that bring up the "Please Wait" box? |
| 21:21 | <thor> | no, it's already up |
| 21:22 | <Timon> | Ok |
| 21:22 | <thor> | that just makes sure we skip the first timer firing |
| 21:22 | <thor> | to make certain the constructor is done |
| 21:22 | <Timon> | Ahhh, ok |
| 21:22 | <thor> | and the dialog is up and painted |
| 21:22 | <Timon> | I'm trying to update the LCD with "Please Wait" when its up on the screen |
| 21:23 | <thor> | start out with Please Wait in constructor |
| 21:23 | <Timon> | Ok, where do I turn it off? |
| 21:23 | <thor> | and only change it once you make it to another setContext command |
| 21:23 | <thor> | ie., once you get through checkForPlaylists() |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | else |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | { |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | // |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | // Visual Feedback ... |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | // |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | } |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | ???? |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | Inside of there? |
| 21:24 | <thor> | nope |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | if(tree_is_done) |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | { |
| 21:24 | <Timon> | ? |
| 21:24 | <thor> | yup |
| 21:24 | <thor> | that'll do |
| 21:26 | <Timon> | Thanks thor. |
| 21:26 | <thor> | np |
| 21:26 | <Timon> | When I'm all done, can you test my patches to see how things work on a 2 line display? |
| 21:26 | <thor> | absolutely |
| 21:27 | <thor> | although you can sim that by making a terminal lcddevice yourself |
| 21:28 | <Timon> | Right now, I have it showing the volume on the display when user changes volume (Added a switchToGenericProgress), displays progress on song when playing, and time left on song |
| 21:28 | <thor> | in lcdproc configuration, you can tell it your device is a terminal window and spec how many columns and lines you want |
| 21:28 | <Timon> | Thats true, forgot about that. |
| 21:28 | <Timon> | Yeah, I forgot about that |
| 21:28 | <thor> | but I'm happy to test as well |
| 21:29 | <Timon> | I can't get my LCD to spit out the keys via getDataFromServer (or whatever its called) |
| 21:30 | <thor> | hmmm |
| 21:30 | <Timon> | I may do some digging on it and figure it out |
| 21:30 | <thor> | can't help you there .... don't have one ... but I think it's supposed to send stuff on the socket on keypress |
| 21:30 | <Timon> | I can however do cat /dev/ttyUSB0 and get the keys |
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| 21:31 | <Timon> | via serverSendingData() right? |
| 21:32 | <thor> | don't recall, but you probably just want to cout anything that comes through to see what you're getting back |
| 21:32 | <Timon> | I did that, I wasn't getting anything |
| 21:32 | <thor> | hmmm .... configuration maybe .... I dunno |
| 21:33 | <Timon> | Well, anything that wasn't releted to switching screens, changing widgets, etc |
| 21:33 | <Timon> | Yeah, i need to play around with it more |
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| 21:42 | * thor | has no idea how irc works, let alone how to change the topic |
| 21:42 | <Chutt> | ./topic blahblahblah |
| 21:42 | <yourface> | ./topic #channel blahblahblah |
| 21:42 | * thor | nods and tries to stop typing /thor |
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| 21:43 | <thor> | yeah! |
| 21:44 | -!- | Viddy has changed the topic to: http://www.mythtv.org |
| 21:44 | <Viddy> | ha! |
| 21:44 | <mikegrb> | Chutt: if you set the channel mode +t only ops can change the topic |
| 21:45 | <mikegrb> | though I guess you would have to ident to nickserv |
| 21:45 | -!- | yourface has changed the topic to: http://www.MythTV.org |
| 21:45 | <mikegrb> | and I believe that was adressed earlier this evening |
| 21:45 | <Viddy> | thats wrong though |
| 21:45 | <Chutt> | i realize that |
| 21:45 | <mikegrb> | no prob |
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| 21:46 | <Chutt> | it's nicer without a channel being locked down, though |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | yes but people aren't nice |
| 21:46 | <Viddy> | the optimist verses the cynic |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 21:46 | <mikegrb> | realist |
| 21:47 | <thor> | realism is the last refuge of the ... oh never mind |
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| 21:47 | <jamesb0nd> | anyone use the powermate with mythtv? |
| 21:48 | <thor> | anything like coffeemate? |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | no it makes power |
| 21:48 | <thor> | great |
| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | violates the laws of thermodynamics and all |
| 21:49 | <bline> | isn't that an icechest |
| 21:49 | <mikegrb> | bline: yes I believe coleman makes it |
| 21:49 | <mikegrb> | I have one next to my recliner I use with mythtv -- it's great at keeping beer cold |
| 21:49 | <jamesb0nd> | it looks like a volume knob |
| 21:49 | <mikegrb> | ahh |
| 21:50 | <mikegrb> | I think I actually know what you are talking about |
| 21:50 | <mikegrb> | usb is it? |
| 21:50 | <jamesb0nd> | yeah |
| 21:50 | <jamesb0nd> | http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/ |
| 21:50 | <mikegrb> | rotates and use as a pushbutton? |
| 21:51 | <jamesb0nd> | yup, just a nice addon to make a case look more like an AV receiver |
| 21:51 | <Timon> | jamesb0nd: Aren't you the one who asked on the list a couple of months ago for someone to write a driver/interface it with myth for it for you? |
| 21:51 | <jamesb0nd> | not me |
| 21:51 | <Chutt> | that looks nice |
| 21:51 | <mikegrb> | yes it does |
| 21:51 | <mikegrb> | aluminum even |
| 21:52 | <Chutt> | waaay overpriced for a volume knob, though |
| 21:52 | <jamesb0nd> | well i am getting it to go with this htpc case http://www.atechfabrication.com/home_theater_computers.htm |
| 21:53 | <jamesb0nd> | it is really expensive but totaly customized, anyway just wondered if anyone used it, guess not |
| 21:56 | <bline> | ouch 400 |
| 21:58 | <jamesb0nd> | yeah but it "should" be the last htpc case i buy, don't need much more |
| 22:00 | <bline> | my computer case works fine |
| 22:00 | <mikegrb> | it looks pretty |
| 22:00 | <bline> | I don't see why people spend money on pretty cases |
| 22:00 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 22:00 | <mikegrb> | mine is in the closet |
| 22:00 | <bline> | my platic case serves its purpose |
| 22:00 | <mikegrb> | $90 for case mb processor and power supply |
| 22:00 | <bline> | mine is next to the tv |
| 22:00 | <bline> | it's cost 30CAD |
| 22:01 | <mikegrb> | I had it by the tv but it was just too noisy so I moved it into the closet just around the corner... our remote is RF |
| 22:01 | <jamesb0nd> | i do it because unlike most of my computers its going to be very visible |
| 22:02 | <jamesb0nd> | also the case is designed with noise and heat problems in mind |
| 22:02 | <bline> | mine is visable heh |
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| 22:04 | <jamesb0nd> | well i still think that its not that much if i use the case for a long time |
| 22:05 | <bline> | I'll still have the 30$ case when I die |
| 22:05 | <jamesb0nd> | hehe |
| 22:10 | <thor> | jamesb0nd, sweet case ... can you get it with A/V "feet"? |
| 22:15 | <jamesb0nd> | no, because of the weight it sits diffrently or somthing so diffrent feet need to be heavyer or somthing |
| 22:15 | <jamesb0nd> | there is a long thread on the case in the general htpc forum at avsforum.com |
| 22:16 | <jamesb0nd> | i mean the weight inside the case |
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| 22:41 | <gsfgf> | if i was to get a hrdwar mpeg encoder does it have to be mpeg4? |
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| 22:47 | <gsfgf> | will this card make myth run smooth http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2743809143&category=3761 |
| 22:56 | <Chutt> | that's not a hardware encoder |
| 22:57 | <thor> | nope |
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| 22:59 | <mechou> | chutt: you there? |
| 22:59 | <jamesb0nd> | they don't even make hardware mpeg4 cards do they? |
| 23:00 | <thor> | gsfgf, Hauppauge (often mis-spelled Hauppage) PVR-250 or PVR-350 is what you want if you're looking for dedicated HW encoding that works with Myth |
| 23:00 | <gsfgf> | how much do they cost |
| 23:01 | <thor> | $100 -$200 or thereabouts, but sometimes there are specials on OEM'd versions |
| 23:01 | <jamesb0nd> | 5 billion dollars |
| 23:01 | <mechou> | I run mythfrontend, select watch recording, and I get "Failed to get Selector object." What do you think this is? |
| 23:01 | <gsfgf> | damn |
| 23:02 | <mechou> | myth also complains about not being able to parse ui.xml.... |
| 23:02 | <Chutt> | mechou, with qt 3.2? |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | i'll have to compile and fix that, i guess =) |
| 23:03 | <mechou> | yup. you mentioned s/t w/ utf-8 setting... |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:03 | <mechou> | refresh my memory again? |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | the .xml files may need something in there to set the character encoding |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | i don't know |
| 23:03 | <Chutt> | that's just a guess =) |
| 23:04 | <thor> | mechou, as a work around, you might be able to rip out foreign language stuff (Chutt, would that work?) |
| 23:04 | <mechou> | what foreign lang stuff? |
| 23:05 | <mechou> | like you mean spanish channels? |
| 23:05 | <mikegrb> | in the xml file |
| 23:05 | <mikegrb> | the foreign translations for the ui elements |
| 23:05 | <thor> | just a guess |
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| 23:07 | <mikegrb> | it sounds plausible and I believe I have heard it working as a solution, don't remember if it was irc or the list though |
| 23:07 | <thor> | mechou, as another guess, have you tried cleaning out ~/.qtconfig stuff and setting lang things in qtconfig |
| 23:07 | <mechou> | guys, which specific xml files are you referring to? |
| 23:08 | <thor> | which ones is it complaining about ? |
| 23:08 | <mechou> | ui.xml |
| 23:08 | <thor> | not mainmenu.xml |
| 23:08 | <mikegrb> | what theme are you using? |
| 23:08 | <mikegrb> | hmm I see what you are wondering thor |
| 23:08 | <mechou> | in theory, blueosd. but m yth complained about that too... |
| 23:09 | <thor> | mechou, this is really the blind leading the blind .... |
| 23:09 | <mikegrb> | heh |
| 23:09 | <mechou> | yeah, you can say that again. Three blind mice... |
| 23:10 | <thor> | but (after making backup compies) you could look at things like mainmenu.xml and see if taking out all the lang stuff stops it from complaining |
| 23:11 | <mechou> | ok, before I go ahead and do this, what's the last cvs checkout you guys were able to run successfully with qt3.2? |
| 23:11 | <mechou> | I'm being able to watch & record... |
| 23:11 | <mikegrb> | I'm using ancient qt |
| 23:11 | <thor> | it's not a version thing ... it's a Qt changed the way they do things thing |
| 23:12 | <thor> | probably an easy fix, once someone has a definitive solution |
| 23:13 | <mechou> | yeah, I just don't want to be "Mr. Definitive", if you catch my meaning ;-) |
| 23:14 | <mechou> | thor, so whats all this about qtconfig? |
| 23:14 | <thor> | qtconfig lets you set defaults for all qt apps |
| 23:14 | <thor> | it's a program |
| 23:15 | <thor> | you can run it |
| 23:15 | <thor> | 3.1 does not have a lang tab ... just a pure guess that 3.2 might |
| 23:16 | <mechou> | I've got ~/.qt/qtrc, but no ~/.qtconfig |
| 23:16 | <thor> | yeah, that's it |
| 23:16 | <mechou> | are they the same thing? |
| 23:17 | <mechou> | well, at the top of qtrc, it says [3.1]. Is qt 3.2 smart enough to use older qt settings? |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | oh, neat |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | qt 3.2 does validation of QLineEdits |
| 23:18 | <Chutt> | mechou, it should be |
| 23:19 | <mechou> | so if I "mv ~/.qt ~/.qtbak ~/.qt should regen? |
| 23:19 | <mechou> | so if I "mv ~/.qt ~/.qtbak" ~/.qt should regen? |
| 23:19 | <thor> | yup, once you run qtconfig |
| 23:21 | <mechou> | hmm, I'm running qtconfig now, nothing 'bout languages.... |
| 23:23 | <thor> | non even "enhanced support for something" |
| 23:23 | <thor> | ? |
| 23:23 | <mechou> | actually under interface tab it has a checkbox for "enhance support for lang. from right to left" or some such thing, which _isnt_ checked.... |
| 23:24 | <thor> | yeah, that was in 3.1 ... hmmm .... oh well ... it was a total guess ... Chutt will probably have this solved shortly |
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| 23:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:28 | <Chutt> | i'll have to compile qt on my own and stuff |
| 23:28 | <yourface> | Does anyone know if the visor OSD is testing, or if their is a screenshot of it? |
| 23:28 | <Chutt> | oh yeah, i never put that up on the website, did i |
| 23:29 | <yourface> | no |
| 23:29 | <yourface> | where can I get it? Does it work with .10? |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | ask just1nux |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | it's his theme |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | i'll bbl |
| 23:32 | <mechou> | hmm, qt3.2 and myth is really fubar'd |
| 23:33 | <thor> | build 3.1 overnight ? |
| 23:33 | <thor> | :-( |
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| 23:33 | <mechou> | complains about not being able to read theme pixmaps or some such thing... |
| 23:33 | <thor> | but the moment your done, I guarantee you someone will have solved the xml hiccups |
| 23:34 | <mechou> | thats "theme preview images" |
| 23:35 | <Timon> | thor: off the top of your head, where in databasebox.cpp do I look to get the item with focus in the tree, and if its checked? |
| 23:36 | <Timon> | thor: I really like your error messages: 'databasebox.o: Oh crap, this is not supposed to happen' |
| 23:37 | <mechou> | does trolltech make older versions of qt source available on the web? Can someone point me to it? |
| 23:38 | <thor> | Timon ... look for handleSignals .... hang on .. I'll find it |
| 23:38 | <Timon> | That will point me in the right direction. |
| 23:38 | <Timon> | You don't need to do all the leg work for me. |
| 23:38 | <mechou> | never mind, found it on some mirror.... |
| 23:38 | <thor> | hang on, I've got my dialogs confused |
| 23:39 | <Timon> | thor: I completely passed right over the signals not thinking to look there. Oh well, you live, you learn. |
| 23:39 | <thor> | Timon, hang on ... I may have sent you on a wild goose chase .... |
| 23:40 | <mechou> | hey thor, which cvs checkout of myth do you have running with qt3.1? |
| 23:40 | <thor> | up to the minute |
| 23:40 | <Timon> | thor: Ok, I'm not seeing where the up/down/left/right keys are handled. I do see the connection of the spacePressed event |
| 23:40 | <mechou> | and your exact version of qt3.1? |
| 23:41 | <thor> | mechou, 3.1.2 |
| 23:41 | <mechou> | thor, OK, thx |
| 23:43 | <thor> | Timon, simplest thing is probably to put a little code at the *bottom* of keyPressEvent to ask the ListView what's selected |
| 23:43 | <Timon> | ok |
| 23:44 | <thor> | only thing that'll bugger that is holdingTracks |
| 23:44 | <thor> | so you'll need a little something in there as well |
| 23:45 | <thor> | oh, now it won't |
| 23:45 | <thor> | no |
| 23:45 | <thor> | you could even ask the listView for prevChild and nextChild if you want multiple lines |
| 23:46 | <Timon> | I would like next and prev |
| 23:46 | <thor> | ask the ListView for active, and then ask active for nextSibling() prevSibling(), but you need to check they are valid (first child's do not have preSiblings, for example) |
| 23:47 | <Timon> | Ok, makes perfect sence |
| 23:47 | <Timon> | is that QListView? |
| 23:47 | <thor> | yup |
| 23:47 | <Timon> | yeah |
| 23:47 | <thor> | and QlistViewItem |
| 23:48 | <Timon> | Ok, and ask the listviewitem if its checked? Or do I ask listview? |
| 23:48 | <thor> | the item |
| 23:48 | <thor> | (but not all of them are checkable ... i.e. playlist items) |
| 23:48 | <Timon> | Thats what I thought. |
| 23:49 | <Timon> | Is there a flag of some sort to indicate if they are checkable? |
| 23:49 | <thor> | but you can find out what kind of item it is (track, playlist, cd track, etc.) by dynamic casting them |
| 23:49 | <thor> | which is a bit messy |
| 23:49 | <thor> | but works |
| 23:50 | <Timon> | I have plenty of example code in keyPressEvent to work from :-) |
| 23:50 | <thor> | yup |
| 23:51 | <Timon> | I changed around output[Centered|Left|Right]Text a lot |
| 23:51 | <Timon> | void outputCenteredText(QString theScreen, |
| 23:51 | <Timon> | QString theText, |
| 23:51 | <Timon> | QString widget = "topWidget", |
| 23:51 | <Timon> | int row = 1); |
| 23:52 | <thor> | ok ... I really don't remember any of that code, except I think there's a method called veryBadThings() |
| 23:52 | <thor> | =) |
| 23:52 | <Timon> | I removed top from it as well. And made them public. I didn't want to use switchToGenericProgress every time I wanted to change one of the lines say when the time on the song changes |
| 23:53 | <Timon> | I have seen that one indead. |
| 23:53 | <Timon> | I really liked that method name :-) |
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| 23:54 | <Timon> | I have some code at work which has a comment of //I have no clue what this does, but it works so don't "fix" it |
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| 23:56 | <thor> | I have code in mythDVD that says, this sucks ... someone who knows what they're doing should fix it |
| 23:56 | <Timon> | I have seen that in mythmusic as well :-) |
| 23:57 | <thor> | =) |
| 23:58 | <Timon> | not... enough... desktop... space... |
