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02:13<just1nux>oh how fun it is to do a searches on google and find someone who has the same problem im having on the myth list, only to go there and find "go talk to the ivtv people, siogned issac" as the solution.
02:14<just1nux>happened to me twice tonight.
02:14<just1nux>maybe "go talk to the ivtv people and post what the resolution was here, signed issac" would be better.
02:14<Chutt>the ivtv list is searchable.
02:15<just1nux>the ivtv search is worthless
02:16<just1nux>and so is the irc channel for that matter.
02:17<just1nux>yeah thats the crappy search im referring to
02:17<Chutt>what's wrong with that?
02:18<just1nux>i get a bunch of posts about friggin patches...what does that do for me
02:19<just1nux>and post synopsises that look like "[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [IVTV-DEVEL] AUDIO/PICTURE CTRL PATCH * To: ivtv-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx * Subject: [ivtv-devel] audio/picture ctrl patch * From: Scott Beck <sbeck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> * Date: 27 May 2003 16:11:32 -0700 * List-archive ...
02:20<just1nux>really useful
02:20<Chutt>you're wanting info on the no-audio problem?
02:20<Chutt>all you have to do is read the past months archives
02:20<Chutt>that's basically all that's been discussed.
02:21<just1nux>no new pvr-250 card different box, getting input/output error
02:22<just1nux>i can communicate with the card fine to change settings and all, but /dev/video0 is not working.
02:22<Chutt>try the sourceforge archives, then
02:23<just1nux>btw, i ended up using that comes with ivtv to have myth tune channels with, its slow but the adio works. not sure if that was disscussed or not. i only read myth-dev.
02:23<just1nux>ill try the sourceforge ones..
02:25<Chutt>audio should be fixed in current ivtv cvs.
02:25<just1nux>ok cool. ill have to try it
02:25<Chutt>just grab the snapshot tarball linked to on the webpage
02:26<Chutt>since anon cvs is behind.
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02:46<just1nux>"We're Sorry.
02:46<just1nux>The Website is currently down for maintenance.
02:47<just1nux>something is conspiring against me
02:47<just1nux>i should just go to bed
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10:33<blow_core>Anyone awake yet?
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10:51<blow_core>What do I have to have installed for the transcode function to work? I go into the 'view recorded programs' and pick the show I want to work on. I press 'm' and mark the commercials out. I then press 'x' but nothing happens and nothing is updated in the database. Is there something I am missing? I don't have 'Automatically run transcoder after recording' checked in setup as I want to make sure the commercial markers are set right, if that matters. Thou
10:55<blow_core>Incidentally -- everything else is working great so far. Thanks to everyone involved for a *really* cool piece of software.
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11:10<Chutt>bbeattie, i just checked your patch in
11:11<Chutt>however, some of the code in the while (encoding) loop looked rather... iffy? =)
11:11<Snow-Man>Chutt: heya.
11:11<bbeattie>Chutt: I just read the commit. Everything work fine?
11:12<Chutt>snow-man, things are working fine
11:12<Snow-Man>Good. :)
11:12* Snow-Manrocks.
11:12<Snow-Man>That wasn't too bad really. :)
11:12<Chutt>bbeattie, yeah. but, are you sure you should be discarding so much data?
11:12<Chutt>snow-man, now do cvs
11:12<bbeattie>Chutt: yes, the problem is the card has to sync with the video signal, and sometimes gives bad data at first.
11:12<Snow-Man>haha, I knew you were going to ask about that.
11:13<bbeattie>Chutt: it's about 5 frames worth of data.
11:13<Chutt>bbeattie, yeah, i understand what you're doing now
11:13<Chutt>ok, it looks a lot less iffy
11:14<bbeattie>pretty simple changes to your mpeg code though isn't it?
11:14<Chutt>main reason why seeking doesn't work is that it needs to be using the mpeg_ts_demuxer
11:14<bbeattie>I do apologize for some of the white space changes.
11:15<Chutt>and that demuxer needs to be updated with some small changes to include the start positions of each packet
11:16<Chutt>if live tv works, and changing channels and all that
11:16<Chutt>recording should as well
11:16<Chutt>since it's all the same code =)
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11:18<bbeattie>Chutt: it should.. however on the test last night it only recorded 10 minutes of one show, and 54 of another. There were a number of errors being reported. I too was under that assumption, but it does need work.
11:19<Chutt>maybe it's losing sync or something?
11:19<bbeattie>some very odd errors not from anything I've written. Today I'll run some more tests and see what happened. (I did the tests after I submitted the patch)
11:20<bbeattie>I'm not sure. I think it has to do with bad packets. The channel I get 80% signal from worked for 54 minutes, the one with 55% signal was 10 minutes, and one that was 40% signal didn't record anything. My antenna is a coffee can assemle in a basement.
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11:21<bbeattie>So some type of packet error and correction needs to be done.
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11:49<mechou>hey, bbeattie, what was the url to that site again,, was it?
11:55<mechou>bbeattie, you think they'll likely go on-line next week, you said?
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12:07<bbeattie>Yes. Possibly this weekend, high chance, Monday, small chance after that.
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13:24<__keturn>"you'll have to update any list filters you have now, of course."
13:24<__keturn>that explains why I have more messages in my inbox than usual.
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13:26rkulagowrkulagow_ rkulagow___ Aug 01 13:26:33 rkulagow_ rkulagow___ Aug 01 13:26:37 <mdz_> rkulagow___: I think he's around somewhere
13:30<Chutt>the mailing lists are all nice now
13:35<bline>tmk asked me to fix the msp34xx driver, I'm going to look at it this weekend
13:35<Chutt>that patch last night doesn't?
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13:36<bline>I don't know, he had talked to me yesterday around 5 PST
13:36<bline>He wants to push off maintaining it to someone else.
13:36<Chutt>well, that patch was sent after that
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13:40<bline>maybe the guy that sent that patch would like to maintain it
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14:38<Chutt>captain_murdoch, hey, since you've touched that code most recently, what do you think of that live-tv ranking patch?
14:40<Captain_Murdoch_>haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
14:41<Captain_Murdoch_>taking a quick look now but I didn't mess with the ranking stuff much if at all when I was in the code recently.
14:42<mdz_>"Another SEGV in mythbackend. This can be reproduced by continually pressing and releasing the left arrow key with an interval of 1 second. After about 2 hours mythbackend segfaults."
14:42<mdz_>then don't do that :-)
14:43<mdz_>that doesnt' look like it's related to any keypressing
14:43<Captain_Murdoch_>but what if I fall asleep on my remote?
14:48<Chutt>heh, that's exactly what i thought
14:49<Chutt>i wonder what was corrupting ram, though
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15:08<mdz_>Chutt: it reminds me of some of the segfaults that I get
15:09<mdz_>there's gotta be a race somewhere on the backend channel or the database or something
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15:33<Chutt>'or something'
15:34<Chutt>there's only 210k lines of code in the mythtv tree, not counting moc_*
15:36<Chutt>heh, nice
15:36<Chutt>256,494 total lines of code in CVS
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15:41<MykilX>i'm putting together a myth tv box, and am at the vid card selection stage, any suggestions?
15:41<Chutt>check the mailing list archives.
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15:43<MykilX>looking now :)
15:43<Chutt>hardware recommendation stuff comes up all the time
15:44<MykilX>dev or users?
15:45<Chutt>users, mainly
15:45<MykilX>ok ty
15:50<hadees>anyone use usb-uirt with mythtv?
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16:59<Captain_Murdoch_>Chutt, were you thinking of putting in a protocol version number in the backend protocol?
17:01<robertj>I got a good deal on a motherboard, and after a trip to a local shop to pick up some ddr 2700 I'll be doing good. I was wondering though, is striping worth the trouble for myth usage if you are just doing one or two streams?
17:07<Captain_Murdoch_>got interrupted by my boss.... Chutt: ok, was just checking because I was also wondering if it's a good idea to put in a number at the beginning of the programinfo backend packet that says how many fields there are in the packet, but if we have a protocol version that won't matter as much.
17:07<Captain_Murdoch_>fields in the programinfo struct that is, not programinfo structs in the packet
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17:08<Chutt>i think just a raw version number would work best
17:08<Chutt>i eventually don't see it changing much, anyway
17:08<Chutt>that's one thing i want to get in before 0.10
17:09<Captain_Murdoch_>raw version will help with those people that upgrade a backend or frontend but forget one or the other somewhere on their network.
17:10<jkolb>You're a little late for that, then, aren't you?
17:10<Chutt>sorry :p
17:11<Captain_Murdoch_>.10 is out?? :)
17:11<jkolb>On a side note, I haven't noticed any ill effects from changing all the timestamp columns to datetimes.
17:12<Chutt>jkolb, yeah, but i still want to check all the usages
17:12<jkolb>I figured.
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17:45<jhurliman>how does mythtv handle recordings disappearing/appearing? if you shared out the /mnt/store directory over samba and users pulled recordings from it and put new ones in there
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17:45<jhurliman>are recordings kept track of by the database or the filesystem?
17:46<Chutt>they're in the db.
17:48<Chutt>you can't use samba as a movie/recording mount
17:48<Chutt>it only does 2 gb files
17:48<jhurliman>i think an export module would be proper then... *thinks*
17:49<Chutt>it's ok with stuff not being there (ie, that's what slave backends do)
17:49<Chutt>but only stuff in the db shows up at all
17:49<jhurliman>ahh.. would it be possible for me to add a function thats called when watch recordings is launched to add new entries to the database?
17:50<jhurliman>i havent looked at things like seektables at all so far, so im really vague on this area of the code
17:51<Chutt>possibly -- what type of recordings?
17:51<Chutt>software, or mpeg encoder card
17:52<Chutt>those'll have seektables in the file, so, yeah, you could do that
17:52<jhurliman>:) chalk one up for TODO.txt
17:53<Chutt>bbl, dinner time
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19:14<bbeattie>what could be the cause of mythmusic failing to be used, error is along the lines of "Mythmusic is not initialized" There was one other posting in the past from 0.8 but no response.
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20:49<jhurliman>Chutt: back?
20:52<jhurliman>maybe someone else could help me.. what should chanid be if it's unknown? Is "Unknown" fine or is there a predetermined value that is used elsewhere?
21:05<rkulagow_>chutt: " when will myth tv be out for windows xp" (<-email i just got)
21:06<rkulagow_>also, there's a one sentence blurb in an article on toms hardware (they're evaluating the newest snapstream)
21:06<Chutt>jhurliman, chanid has to exist.
21:06<rkulagow_>"It is proprietary software, and thus can not be tinkered with under hood. MythTV, for example, has a plug-in architecture with different modules for weather forecast, games, digital photos, audio, etc. It is unlikely that SnapStream will offer any of these things in the near future. "
21:06<Chutt>rkulagow, there's actually a couple in that artical =)
21:06<Chutt>there's one earlier in, they mention the multi-tuner capability
21:07<rkulagow_>well, i just scanned it pretty quick. so, when is mythtv going to come out for windows xp? :)
21:07<Chutt>when that guy that asked you ports it
21:08<mechou>reply back and ask him why he is using windows ;)?
21:08<rkulagow_>probably just point them to sage tv.
21:09<Chutt>do you really respond to everyone that emails you directly?
21:09<Chutt>i just ignore 99% of those
21:09<rkulagow_>chutt: that's why you're the supercilious one, and i'm the one that everyone loves. you know, like "face" on the a-team.
21:12<jhurliman>Chutt: is there a default chanid that always exists, or should i select the first one i query and use that? there's no way to tell what chanid a random .nuv came from
21:12<Chutt>if you preserved the filename, it's in that
21:13<Chutt>but, you could just pick an existing one
21:13<Chutt>i suppose
21:13<jhurliman>ohh ok, i havent even looked at the file naming convention yet, hehe
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21:18<bbeattie>hmm, anyone gotten lircd working? - I have it to where I run the program irw and it tells me I'm pressing the Play, Pause, etc buttons (basically it's all configured) I created a .lircrc file with some echo commands (to test a .lircrc file) but none of that ever occurs..
21:19<jhurliman>bbeattie: what are you running as a client, irxevent?
21:19<bbeattie>nothing at this point, which is probably why it doesn't work.
21:19<bbeattie>My computer doesn't have irxevent though
21:20<Timon>bbeattie: Did you build it from source?
21:20<bbeattie>No, debian, then compiled the serial_lirc module myself though
21:20<merf>who wrote mythvideo?
21:20<Timon>bbeattie: Hmm, my suggestion is to get the source and build irxevent
21:21<Timon>merf: moegreen (John Danner)
21:21<merf>_moegreen: awake? :D
21:21<bbeattie>irxecent was part of lirc-x, which wasn't, but not is installed.
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21:21<merf>Timon: cheers
21:27<bbeattie>jhurliman, Timon: if irw reports the buttons being pressed for the remote, is lirc working? And if so, what does it take to get mythtv working? Both xmms and myth don't appear to be seeing the remote commands, but irw does?
21:29<jhurliman>bbeattie: yes it's working then. you need to get a proper .lircrc which maps keys on your remote to keypresses for irxevent, run irxevent, then run mythtv
21:29<Timon>bbeattie: Yes
21:30<jhurliman>man lircrc
21:30<bbeattie>so irxevent has to be running in order to get mythtv working?
21:30<bbeattie>I must have missed that in the doc..
21:30<Timon>no, it order to get the keypresses from your remote into myth
21:30<bbeattie>I have a bit more to try...
21:31<merf>you setup .lircrc
21:31<Timon>bbeattie: Read the docs, rkulagow_ has done a really good job on them.
21:31<merf>like begin \n prog = irxevent \n button = vol+ \n config = Key ] CurrentWindow \n end
21:31<bbeattie>Timon: I will. I missed the irxevent, so I probably missed more too.
21:31<merf>then when you press vol+ on the remote, it passes ] to mythtv (volume up)
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21:37<jhurliman>the fun part is when your lircd.conf defines keys completely different and calls it VolUp for one remote and vol+ for another
21:37<jhurliman>oh he's gone
21:37<merf>luckily i only use one rmeote :D
21:37<merf>er, remote.
21:38<jhurliman>i finally settled on the "Winamp Remote" (Packard Bell remote)
21:38<jhurliman>while we're on the topic, how do you send the backspace key to irxevent? KP_BACKSPACE ?
21:39<jhurliman>or is there documentation that defines all those somewhere
21:39<Timon>Check somewhere in /etc/X11R6/
21:40<Timon>I found it in there somewhere, can't remember which file
21:40<jhurliman>for irxevent commands?
21:40<merf>jhurliman: /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h
21:40<Timon>Yeah, thats it!
21:40<jhurliman>thx :)
21:40<merf>i've been through this and back again :)
21:40<merf>some of the keycodes in there don't work though.
21:40<merf>at least for me
21:41<merf>here's a question
21:41<merf>what's this (when compiling mythmusic):
21:41<merf>g++: Internal compiler error: program cc1plus got fatal signal 9
21:41<merf>{standard input}: Assembler messages:
21:41<merf>{standard input}:0: Warning: end of file in string; inserted '"'
21:43<jhurliman>XK_BackSpace aha
21:43<Timon>jhurliman: Why do you want backspace?
21:44<merf>for entering imdb numbers :)
21:45<jhurliman>Timon: entering zipcode
21:47<jhurliman>actually, all MythRemoteLineEdit controls become rather useless without it
21:57<jhurliman>i just tried out transcoding... when does the .nuv.old file get deleted?
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