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10:44<Chutt>mdz, cool =)
10:45<Chutt>all that really changed was the extra VIDIOCSCHAN at the end of the function
10:45<Chutt>err, setup in nvr.cpp
10:45<KikoV>have anyone tested mythtv with monge qt directfb?
10:45<Chutt>the qt directfb isn't really ready for use yet.
10:45<Chutt>it works fine with qt/embedded, though, but no video output
10:45<KikoV>it could be really cool!
10:46<Chutt>but video output would be pretty easy to add
10:46<Chutt>just do a simple little sdl output layer
10:46<KikoV>now it is using sdl?
10:48<jkolb>Does directfb have somethine like X's modelines, or does it only do VESA modes?
10:49<mdz_>Chutt: was that change made in order to fix a different problem?
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10:49<Chutt>mdz, yeah
10:49<mdz_>it seems like a driver bug to me
10:49<Chutt>but i figured it may be the same for your stuff
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10:50<Chutt>so other inputs work fine?
10:50<mdz_>at least in live tv
10:50<mdz_>scheduled recordings have all been on one input so far
10:51<mdz_>9 more recordings scheduled today; should get a good workout
10:54* Snow-Manran his desktop out of disk space with mythtv yesterday. :)
10:54<Chutt>snow-man, turn off mysql logging
10:54<Chutt>if you don't need that for anything else
10:54<Chutt>since it produces a _lot_ of output
10:54<Snow-Man>Chutt: You mean on colo?
10:54<Chutt>on your mythtv install
10:55<Chutt>not that that filled things up
10:55<Snow-Man>My /var partition is actually fine but I'll keep that in mind.
11:21<mdz_>the mysql query log also makes it MUCH slower
11:21<Chutt>snowman, somethin's wrong on colo
11:23<Chutt>looks like mailman isn't processing crap
11:24<Snow-Man>mailman or sendmail?
11:24<Chutt>i can't tell if mailman's not doing anything, or sendmail's not delivering
11:24<Chutt>to it
11:24<Chutt>but the messages aren't showing up in the archives, at least
11:25<Snow-Man>Just ran /etc/init.d/sm-qrunners restart
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11:26<Chutt>i've sent a couple mails that haven't shown up in /var/log/mailman/post
11:29<Chutt>but they did show up in the mail.log, i think
11:29<Snow-Man>New stuff is at least showing up in post..
11:30<Chutt>just a couple
11:31<Snow-Man>Aug 5 11:25:17 colo sm-mta-mqueue[15453]: h75FG37T014813: to="|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mythtv-dev", ctladdr=<> (8/0), delay=00:09:14, xdel
11:31<Snow-Man>ay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=120796, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
11:31<Snow-Man>There are some files in qfiles/out
11:32<Snow-Man>Aug 05 11:31:55 2003 (14293) post to mythtv-dev from, size=2676, message-id=<>, success
11:32<Snow-Man>Looks like one just went through.
11:32<Chutt>'sec, lemme see when that one was sent
11:32<Snow-Man>Have you checked the archives for that stuff now?
11:33<Chutt>all 3 show up now..
11:34<mdz_>"With this enabled i'm getting (manually retyped)"
11:34<mdz_>that's a good sign to abandon the thread
11:34<Chutt>snowman, looks like stuff's going through now
11:34<Chutt>i think
11:35<Chutt>mdz, which thread?
11:35<Chutt>and, when did you send a message to -dev?
11:35<Chutt>just recently?
11:36<Chutt>snowman, anyway, those 3 messages took 15 minutes to go through mailman =)
11:37<Snow-Man>I don't think they had been delivered to mailman yet..
11:38<Snow-Man>sendmail received them at 11:16:04 but didn't deliver them to mailman until 11:25:17
11:38<Chutt>ah, ok
11:39<Snow-Man>I need to write a cronjob to restart the mail queues if there ever isn't a queue runner going for like 5-10 seconds or so.
11:39<Snow-Man>It's a bug in sendmail somewhere that upstream is aware of and is working to fix.
11:39<Chutt>won't that run the hourly stuff too often?
11:39<Snow-Man>I'd write it to only restart whichever queue wasn't being run.
11:40<Snow-Man>Basically every 15 minutes or so it'd check if there are any './blah' or 'hourly/blah' sendmail processes running
11:40<Snow-Man>If there are both, exit, if one is missing then sleep for 5 or 10 seconds or something and check again
11:40<Snow-Man>If there still isn't then restart that queue
11:41<Snow-Man>Not a hard script to write, really.
11:41<Snow-Man>Need to modify the init script to be able to take a list of queues to restart tho.
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11:46<Snow-Man>Of course, that script could also check for foobar'd processes like the one we saw the other night.
11:46<Snow-Man>Basically if a runner has been going for more than 30 minutes or so it should be kill'ed, sleep for a few, then kill -9 it if it hasn't gone away.
11:47<Snow-Man>At the next interval the queue might be restarted if it doesn't figure it out on it's own.
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11:55<mdz_>Chutt: I forget which thread; killed it. someone had a problem compiling and typed the error message by hand
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12:03<mdz_>ac-tex damaged at 11 20
12:03<mdz_>Error at MB: 631
12:03<mdz_>concealing errors
12:03<mdz_>during my most recent recording
12:03<Chutt>have you updated today?
12:03<Chutt>since that libavcodec update last night..
12:03<Chutt>i dunno
12:03<Chutt>things work here, but..
12:04<mdz_>the previous recordings were OK
12:05<Chutt>i dunno
12:05<Chutt>may want to try updating to current cvs
12:06<Chutt>i merged in latest libavcodec last night
12:06<mdz_>I looked at the code
12:06<mdz_>and I still have no idea what the error message means
12:06<mdz_> if (i > 62){
12:06<mdz_> i-= 192;
12:06<mdz_> if(i&(~63)){
12:06<mdz_> fprintf(stderr, "ac-tex damaged at %d %d\n", s->mb_x, s->mb_y);
12:06<mdz_> return -1;
12:06<mdz_> }
12:06<mdz_>it's still recording; hopefully it recovered gracefully
12:07<Chutt>that was on the record end?
12:08<mdz_>that's the only end there is; there is no playback happening at the moment
12:08<mdz_>and I didn't think there was any error detection in the uncompressed frames :-P
12:09<mdz_>so one of its internal data structures must have been fucked
12:09<Chutt>might it be doing a commercial detection?
12:10<mdz_>yes, it is
12:10<mdz_>it was
12:10<mdz_>just crashed, shit
12:12<mdz_>I want a flag to disable the commercial detection thread
12:14<mdz_>ah, thanks
12:26<meth>any idea why mythbackend wont stay running"
12:29<Chutt>meth, without you providing any information, no.
12:38<Chutt>where's bline
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13:31<rkulagow__>huh. lesson learned: the mysqldump format for tables doesn't necessarily match the mythtv format for creating them. (the order is different)
13:31<Chutt>especially if you've updated the db often like you probably have
13:33<rkulagow__>kept getting bizarro "field {blah} cannot be NULL" errors; visual grepping between mc.sql and the dump made me wonder if i was going nuts. until i realized that i had removed the mysqldump "create table" lines from the dump when i was merging the databases.
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13:34<wezzel>Does anyone know were I can find a list of chipsets btaudio is compatible with and how to find what chip my card has?
13:34<Chutt>there isn't a list
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13:37<robertj>mdz: is mytharcade going to be packaged in the next release?
13:37<wezzel>what is a cheap card that is btaudio/tvaudio compatible seems the two kworld cards I got are not.
13:38<robertj>wahtever it's called
13:39<merf>i was gonna say
13:39<merf>i need to setup mythgame again
13:39<merf>except snes9x won't do fullscreen on my box..
13:40<robertj>merf: I'm excited, I'm running 960x540 on my TV and have 4 usb sidewinders ready to go!
13:40<robertj>not high enough for some games, but still...
13:40<merf>heh, i hooked up 3 snes gamepads via parallel :)
13:40<robertj>merf: sweet
13:41<merf>i wish snes9x could do fullscreen though!
13:41<robertj>I thought about that but the sidewinders have good layouts for most things
13:41<robertj>How is intellivision emulation though?
13:41<merf>it's trying to get to /dev/mem, and even when it's suid root it can do semi-fullscreen but is really just a small window centered on a black screen
13:41<merf>i should play with it when i get home
13:41<robertj>that's the system of my youth and I'd love to get dual controllers set up along with a good emu
13:41<robertj>Beeeee seventeen bomber
13:42<robertj>currently, I'm mad at my sound card and alssa
13:42<merf>i've no idea.. ihaven't setup NES or MAME in mythgame yet.
13:42<robertj>but transcoding is awesome, it beats the pants off of s-video out
13:43<robertj>I don't know how it compares to the Radeon's component out but I love it
13:43<merf>what the hell is transcoding anyways?
13:43<merf>i should rftfm :D
13:43<merf>er, rtfm too.
13:44<robertj>merf: the practical application is that there is a box. You plug the power cord of the box into the wall. You put the vga cable into the box and the component output into your tv
13:44<robertj>Then you set X-mode lines that the TV can read (or use powerstrip under windows), and if all is well, output!
13:44<merf>er, so like a TVAtor?
13:44<robertj>merf: I haven't seen one of those in 10 years
13:44<merf>that's what i'm using ;)
13:44<robertj>I don't know what they are like these days
13:44<merf>found one on ebay.. paid like $20 for it.
13:45<merf>it works pretty well.
13:45<robertj>what does it use for output?
13:45<merf>RCA video out
13:45<merf>and RGB (it's a db9 connector)
13:45<merf>accepts VGA in
13:45<robertj>oh, see this is for component which is just so much better
13:45<robertj>I'm not one of the high-fi gurus that argues over cables but component is just appreciably better
13:46<merf>yeah, my quality sucks cause it goes through 50 adapters + switches.. but whatever
13:46<merf>it does the job
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13:46* merfgoes for smoke, brb
13:46<robertj>btw, I took advantage of the Best Buy return policy and bought both the lowest end shielded component cables I could buy (audio authority $25/1 meters) and the most expensive (Monster home theater 3, $175). No difference on an a-b comparison so I returned the $175!
13:47<robertj>but the cheap component cables are alot better than s-video
13:47<robertj>hey mdz, you around?
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14:17<mikegrb>don't see why it wouldn't
14:17<robertj>I don't care that much about tv quality, just as long as it's watchable
14:17<mikegrb>that was meant for another window
14:33<Chutt>captain_murdoch, are you here?
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14:33<Chutt>bline, hey
14:34<Chutt>you didn't happen to figure out those playback errors, did you?
14:35<robertj>hey Chutt, do you know if mythgame, mythdvd, mythweb2 are going to be packaged for .11?
14:35<Chutt>mdz doesn't package things he doesn't use
14:35<robertj>ok, then I'll probably just install cvs tonight then
14:36<robertj>btw, Chutt, how do you set myth into 16x9 mode?
14:36<Chutt>you don't.
14:36<robertj>ok, I thought maby there was some way to get non-eliptical buttons
14:36<Chutt>you either write code for that, or buy me a 16:9 tv so i care =)
14:37<robertj>or I could just run liquid ;)
14:37<mikegrb>the buttons aren't suppposed to be eliptical!?!
14:39<robertj>btw, has mythweather broken since .10's release?
14:39<robertj>it always fails on me
14:40<mikegrb>it's been addressed in cvs
14:40<robertj>ok, well that settles it, cvs it is
14:40<robertj>I still don't know why myth is crapping out on me audio-wise. ogle and mame do fine
14:43<bline>Chutt: I just woke up
14:43<Chutt>anyway, it looks like it's mis-detecting the files somehow
14:43<bline>and drove to work
14:43<Chutt>if you want someplace to start whenever you look into that =)
14:44<bline>ok, I'll look at it this afternoon, have to do real work now
14:44<Chutt>real work, schmeal work
14:44<bline>lest I lose my job and have no money
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15:08<jhurliman>Captain_Murdoch: i implemented that patch last night, have yet to test it out though
15:12<Chutt>where's the damn ups guy
15:15<jkolb>That's what I'd like to know.
15:19<wezzel>Did zap2it change there format I get "zap2it failed to give us a form to choose a Provider"
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15:21<Chutt>not that i'm aware of
15:24<jhurliman>ups guy just showed up for me :)
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15:29<mikegrb>wezzel: working for me
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15:37<wezzel>just realized I was running 5.14 I'm going to testout 5.15 now.
15:37<mikegrb>I'm running 5.14
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15:37<mikegrb>time to go home from work now though... I'll be back in abt half an hour
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15:44<s012>is my system fast enough for mythtv? model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
15:44<s012>stepping : 7
15:44<s012>cpu MHz : 3000.112
15:44<s012>cache size : 512 KB
15:45<Chutt>why would you think it wouldn't be?
15:45<s012>because I heard mythtv required a extreme system
15:45<Chutt>who told you that?
15:45<s012>you guys
15:45<Chutt>um, no.
15:46<Chutt>i doubt anyone in here did
15:46<s012>they said p3s were to slow
15:46<jhurliman>i didn't tell anyone that, but from personal experience a 1.3ghz athlon was wanting in a few areas with myth
15:46<Chutt>depend on the p3, of course.
15:46<Chutt>and what you're expecting it to do.
15:46<s012>record while playing tv
15:47<s012>err watching
15:47<jhurliman>try recording two rtjpeg 480x480 streams while playing back some mp3s with fullscreen visuals... not pretty
15:47<Chutt>anything above a 1ghz machine is plenty for recording one stream and watching another.
15:48<Chutt>err, no, that's what it is.
15:48<s012>do you guys have gentoo ebuilds?
15:48<Chutt>there's ebuilds in gentoo.
15:48<s012>hopefully because it sounds like you need a amazing computer and a hardware decoder
15:49<s012>i have a bt878 chipset
15:49<Chutt>what did i just say?
15:49<s012>are they uptodate?
15:49<Chutt>[15:43] <Chutt> anything above a 1ghz machine is plenty for recording one stream and watching another.
15:49<jhurliman>emerge sync;emerge search myth will show 0.10 release
15:49<s012>Chutt, well I kinda believe you, but im sure it will skip frames
15:50<Chutt>don't waste my time asking questions then.
15:50<Chutt>if you're not going to listen to the answers.
15:50<jhurliman>s012: well then you can turn the capture resolution down
15:50<s012>Chutt, yeah, im just worried
15:50<s012>Chutt, mythtv takes alot of time to setup, i dont want to be let down
15:51<jhurliman>if you want to capture 720x480, buy a fast system. if you want 320x240, use a slow(er) system. it's scalable
15:51<Chutt>how does it take a long time to setup?
15:51<s012>setting up all those programs
15:51<Chutt>uh, how?
15:51<Chutt>you just said you're using gentoo, that means it's a one line install
15:52<s012>configuring it is a bitch
15:52<Chutt>there's nothing to configure, aside from telling it where you live and what your tuner card is and how to use it.
15:52<s012>yeah, thats the hard part
15:52<Chutt>well, i can do that in about 30 seconds whenever i blow away my config for testing
15:53<Chutt>so it's not that difficult :p
15:53<jhurliman>you can look up your zipcode on usps' site if you arent sure
15:53<Chutt>really, it's not that difficult
15:53<Chutt>there's nothing to worry about :p
15:54<jhurliman>Chutt: do you have any other idea what could be causing my "Delaying to next trigger" problem? tv is unwatchable, since mythfrontend doesnt last for more than 10 minutes before locking up, although the backend has been running for a week now
15:54<Chutt>jhurliman, nope
15:54<Chutt>i've never seen that happen
15:54<jhurliman>i upgraded to the very latest v4l2 and bttv, im already using alsa 0.9.6; should i upgrade to alsa cvs or switch to commercial oss?
15:54<Chutt>i doubt it's alsa related
15:54<Chutt>how full is the lockup?
15:55<Chutt>oh, you're using bttv 0.9?
15:55<jhurliman>just switched from 0.7
15:55<Chutt>unless you _have_ to, don't
15:55<Chutt>it's buggy, in my experience
15:55<jhurliman>got lockups in both, i can go back to .7
15:55<Chutt>any way to get a bt of the lockup?
15:56<jhurliman>i get a whole bunch of delaying to next trigger messages, with agressive audio buffering i get audio buffer overflow messages sprinkled in there, always a lockup. i will recompile for debugging tonight
15:56<s012>man, mythtv has alot of dependencies
15:56<Chutt>just qt and mysql and xmltv
15:56<Chutt>xmltv has a shitton of deps, though
15:57<jhurliman>Chutt: is there any worthwhile places to put cout << in to assist debugging?
15:57<Chutt>not really
15:57<Chutt>best thing to do is try to get a bt
15:57<s012>good news
15:58<s012>I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geiko!
16:21<s012>Unable to connect to database!
16:21<s012>Driver error was [1/-1]:
16:21<s012>QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
16:21<s012>Database error was:
16:21<s012>Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
16:21<s012>couldn't open db
16:23<jhurliman># /etc/init.d/mysql start
16:23<jhurliman># mysql_install_db
16:23<jhurliman># /usr/share/mythtv/setup (i think)
16:24<mikegrb>Chutt: do the 'VIDIOCSYNC0: Invalid argument' go through mythtv? I assume so, this error is directly from bttv though right?
16:25<Chutt>it's printed out from mythtv, but it's a direct result of a call to the bttv driver
16:25<mikegrb>Once ever 100 recordings or so I get a slew of them and was thinking if they were in a variable I could check for them and increment a counter and at 10 or so print some sort of error continues message
16:26<mikegrb>right I was pretty sure they were basically straight from bttv
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16:27<mikegrb>I may try to make it optionally restart the recording as well since it hasn't ever corrected its self. Can you see a case where that would be bad?
16:27<Chutt>you can try other stuff to get around it
16:27<mikegrb>restarting the backend normally fixes it
16:27<Chutt>like, stop the recording and try to reinit the buffers and stuff
16:28<mikegrb>my main goal is at least to prevent it from filling the var partition
16:28<mikegrb>in this most recent case in 10 minutes it had 1gb
16:28<mikegrb>I always find out about it from my browser on another machine since squid runs on that system
16:29<mikegrb>I would look into it tonight but I may be trying to get mythtv working on my xbox tonight
16:30<s012>i wish someone could come up with a xawtv replacement that worked just like xawtv
16:30<Chutt>then why replace it?
16:30<s012>because it has issues with alot of things
16:31<s012>just rewrite it or something
16:34<s012>I wonder what would be faster, running dual xeons at 2.4ghz with my memory latency at 2 2 2 6 or running my xeons at 3ghz with 3 3 3 7
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16:56<jhurliman>mikegrb: i was wondering about mythtv on the xbox. there's no tv tuner in an xbox, so are you using myth for other purposes?
16:56<jhurliman>s012: tvtime
16:56<Chutt>frontend only
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17:32<merf>is there a simpler way to get mythmusic to install into /usr instead of /usr/local?
17:33<merf>(as opposed to manually editing the makefile)
17:34<merf>sheeit. i'm a moron.
17:38<mikegrb>Wooow, that's leet
17:41<merf>mythfrontend: relocation error: /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/ undefined symbol: __15GeneralSettingsi
17:41<merf>is that a typo somewhere? (settingsi)
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18:01<hyper>i tried installing mythtv with the redhat 9 rpms, it worked great but im at the point it wants me to run setup
18:02<hyper>and i cant find it anywhere on my system
18:02<merf>is where it is in the debian packages
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18:03<hyperm>hrmm searching for that name, the docs said "setup"
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18:05<courtlr>Is the mythchannels going to make it into the .11 release?
18:05<hyperm>heh its mythtvsetup
18:06<courtlr>Ok then, is mythtvsetup going to make it into the .11 release?
18:06<hyperm>oh sorry wasnt talkng to you
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18:22<merf>what the hell is mythchannels?
18:23<choenig>merf: a tool to tune your channels :)
18:30<merf>well that makes sense :)
18:30<merf>anyone have a second to help me with mythmusic?
18:30<merf>metadata.o: Your database is out of whack. This is not good.
18:30<merf>playlist.o: Hey! I can't load playlists if you don't give me a hostname!
18:30<merf>i've just installed it, and i did mysql -u root -p < metadata.sql
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20:54<Captain_Murdoch>Chutt: I'm around now, just read the scrollback buffer and saw you looking for me.
20:54<Chutt>was i?
20:54<Chutt>i don't remember =)
20:55<Chutt>might have wanted to ask why you were allocating all those XImages to the wrong size and it wasn't using them, etc
20:55<Chutt>but i fixed all that, i believe
20:57<Captain_Murdoch>it was using them a long time ago, may have got changed somewhere along the line. there should have been a XV set of buffers allocated when using Xv and a non-xv set allocated when not in xv mode. can't remember though.
20:58<Chutt>it was using them, right
20:59<Chutt>but it wasn't using them properly
20:59<Chutt>at all =)
20:59<Chutt>you were just treating them as char buffers for the yuv data, when they were allocated as rgb or whatnot
21:00<Captain_Murdoch>allocated as zpixmap in xshmcreateimage. that's 2 bpp right?
21:01<Captain_Murdoch>trying to see where I went wrong. :) looking at old code.
21:05<Chutt>basically, the whole point of allocating those buffers there was so it didn't have to copy them out of there
21:05<Chutt>and could decode right into them
21:05<Chutt>but you need to copy stuff around to resize and color convert things
21:05<Chutt>so no point in using all those allocated buffers
21:06<Captain_Murdoch>ok, gotcha now. because I had to do the conversion and stuff in software there's no need for all those buffers.
21:07<Captain_Murdoch>missed that last message cause I was looking at the old code. :)
21:07<Captain_Murdoch>I think I replicated the Xv mode stuff to a non-Xv section then started hacking and never noticed they weren't necessary and cleaned them up.
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21:08<Captain_Murdoch>doubt that code is even used much anymore since you have to always run at the GUI size.
21:09<Captain_Murdoch>I don't develop remote on my laptop anymore because I upgraded the distro and have myth installed native on it.
21:17<mikegrb>Chutt: is perror a function in mythtv somewhere for printing errors I assume?
21:17<Chutt>perror's a standard libc function
21:18<mikegrb>oic I'll check man page then
21:19<jkolb>Has something changed recently that might make visor not draw properly? The solid background behind my recorded programs list isn't completely there.
21:19<mikegrb>Chutt: thanks, I found the code I need to work in
21:21<Chutt>jkolb, nope
21:21<jkolb>Well, crap
21:21<Chutt>that's X stuff -- uses the render extension
21:33<mikegrb>Chutt: mind if a paste abt 4 lines?
21:35<mikegrb> if (ioctl(fd, VIDIOCSYNC, &frame)<0) {
21:35<mikegrb> if (videosync0_error++ < 10)
21:35<mikegrb> perror("VIDIOCSYNC0");
21:35<mikegrb> elsif (videosync0_error == 10)
21:35<mikegrb> perror("Repeated 10 times, further errors supressed");
21:35<mikegrb> }
21:35<mikegrb>look okay? I'm not sure about the elsif
21:35<Chutt>else if
21:36<mikegrb>was just about to look through the code for another one... the perl programmer in me
21:36<Chutt>might as well make it bail when that happens, though
21:37<mikegrb>easy method to do that?
21:37<mikegrb>that would probably be good b/c mythtv goes to 100% cpu usage when it occures
21:37<Chutt>just set encoding = false;
21:38<jkolb>That's not going to supress errors beyond 10
21:38<jkolb>Wait, yes it will
21:38<Chutt>it'll keep printing out the error
21:38<Chutt>after that, unless you increment videosync0_error in that clause
21:39<mikegrb>even with if < 10... print error?
21:39<jkolb>It gets incremented in the if the next time through, is still >= 10, but not == 10
21:39<Chutt>ah, right
21:39<Chutt>mikegrb, just after the error, set encoding = false
21:39<Chutt>and it'll be all happy
21:39<mikegrb>np... I'll change the message to reflect such
21:39<jkolb>Of course, if you get ~2 billion of those, it'll start printing again.
21:40<mikegrb>jkolb: right
21:40<mikegrb>I made it a long and figured if it wrapped around oh well another 11 lines in the long
21:40<jkolb>Hopefully you don't let it go that long.
21:40<mikegrb>but I will have it stop
21:40<mikegrb>jkolb: it generally goes until var is full
21:41<mikegrb>that's how I find out
21:41<jkolb>You'll get the 2^31 negative numbers in the log.
21:41<mikegrb>didn't think oh well, moot point... it's gonna stop trying
21:42<mikegrb>I'll switch it from long to int now too since long isn't needed
21:43<jkolb>They're the same in 32-bit land.
21:44<mikegrb>Chutt, is it possible to get bunches of videosync0 w/o videosync1 errors? I've only ever had problems with the two together
21:47<mikegrb>oh well I'll do both to be safe
21:47<Chutt>i've never had it happen, myself
21:49<mikegrb>I forgot my torx dirvers are all in the bedroom closet and my wife already went to sleep so no xbox mod'ing for me tonight
21:50<jkolb>The 'Repeated 10 times' line will never execute
21:51<jkolb>i++ returns i, then increments.
21:51<mikegrb>so I need ++i
21:51<jkolb>That'll work.
21:52<mikegrb>I broke something anyway on accident <g>
21:52<mikegrb>got to go look for a typo where nothing was meant to be typed
21:52* Captain_Murdochwonders how many people will reply to his "802.11bits per second" post on the -users list because they don't get it.
21:53<jkolb>I'll have you know that I get a full 804 bits per second out of my wireless link.
21:53<jkolb>Or is that not the joke you made?
21:53<Captain_Murdoch>yeah, on the discussion about MB vs Mb vs mb vs MB, etc. when the guy asked about 3Mbit over 802.11b
21:54<jkolb>I disabled delivery on -users about two weeks ago. Too much mail
21:54<Chutt>wish i could do that
21:54<Chutt>is that instant recording crap working for _anyone_?
21:54* mikegrbwas stupid and left the last } off
21:55<Captain_Murdoch>I skim -users looking for posts with the word "commercial" in them.
21:55<mikegrb>never tried it... I will in a moment when make is done
21:55<jkolb>You should set up procmail to do that for you, and throw away all the other messages
21:55<Chutt>i've never used it
21:56<Captain_Murdoch>jkolb: I archive locally cause it's easier grep-ing for stuff than hitting the archive on the web.
21:56<mikegrb>Chutt: compile clean now, shall I send the patch now or would you rather I wait 'til I've done a recording or two
21:56<Chutt>doesn't matter to me
21:56<Chutt>i can't apply it right now anyway
21:56<mikegrb>okie dokie
21:57<Captain_Murdoch>any screenshots of mythweb2 anywhere?
21:57<jkolb>True. I archived everything that came through the list while I was receiving mail from it, but after three days of just marking all read because I hadn't checked my mail in an hour made me decide that I wasn't getting anything out of it.
21:57<jkolb>I've been working on a theme for mw2
21:58<jkolb>No popups.
21:58<Captain_Murdoch>I need to upgrade php on my internal webserver before I can play with it.
21:58<Captain_Murdoch>running an old copy off my /usr/local from before I updated the distro. gotta go find those CDs with the packages. :)
21:58<jkolb>Which distro do you run?
21:59<Chutt>i've got 26,765 messages in my mythtv folder
21:59<Captain_Murdoch>frankensteins that start out as redhat. :)
21:59<jkolb>I'm surprised it isn't already 26,776
22:00<Captain_Murdoch>takes me years to upgrade distros cause I install so much stuff from source and don't want to reconfig stuff.
22:00<jkolb>Gotta stay on the bleeding edge, eh?
22:01<mikegrb>Chutt: Instant recording isn't working for me
22:01<Captain_Murdoch>if it ain't broke and Chutt's mods don't force me to upgrade then why do it. ;)
22:02<mikegrb>It acts like it is working though the stop button doesn't get enabled, and nothing shows up in watch recordings
22:02<jkolb>Why do you end up installing so much from source, then?
22:02<Chutt>almost have xvmc support done
22:02<Chutt>though it's displaying all funkily
22:04<jkolb>Odd. If I start X as jkolb, everything works fine. If I start it as myth, it doesn't render the recorded programs list properly.
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22:06<Captain_Murdoch>I install apps from source w/ the occasional lib upgrade.
22:08<jkolb>Dammit. There's nothing different in the XFree log files.
22:22<mdz>Chutt: xvmc?
22:22<Chutt>crappy mpeg2 decoding accel
22:22<Chutt>d'ya have a gf4mx?
22:22<Chutt>oh, you don't have a pvr-250, so
22:24<Chutt>i was bored, really
22:24<Chutt>didn't look that difficult to implement
22:24<FryGuy>does anyone have experience running vnc on linux?
22:24<jkolb>I used to run xvnc
22:25<jkolb>Haven't done it in quite a while, though.
22:25<FryGuy>was the process just a matter of running vncserver and then connecting to it with a vncviewer?
22:25<jkolb>IIRC, yeah.
22:26<jkolb>I can't remember what the display number was, though. I don't think it took 0.
22:26<bline>this focus problem is starting to annoy me
22:27<mdz>Chutt, yay, you renamed XJ
22:27<Chutt>bline, figure out why it's misdetecting your mpeg files
22:27<Chutt>please =)
22:27<Chutt>mdz, yeah
22:27<Chutt>and i abstracted it a little
22:27<bline>I've been working on the lirc focus stuff
22:27<mdz>it would be nice if the commits list would include the diff
22:27<mdz>I subscribed to one of the apache dev lists recently and they do that
22:27<mdz>it's very useful
22:28<bline>Qt just takes the damn focus from the QFrame when the mouse leaves the window
22:28<Chutt>mdz, i figure it's just as easy to look at the viewcvs
22:28<Chutt>since _most_ people just want the message
22:28<bline>doesn't happen on the main window though, Qt thinks it's always focused
22:28<mdz>Chutt: there's a viewcvs now?
22:29<bline>maybe something in showFullScreen will help
22:29<Chutt>mdz, there's always been one
22:29<Chutt>even before there was anon cvs access =)
22:29<mdz>it's still easier when multiple files are modified, or when catching up on mail (since then you have to go back and find which version corresponds ot the log message)
22:29<mdz>how's mythweb2 going?
22:31<Chutt>i dunno
22:40<Captain_Murdoch>looks good. kinda dark on my screen but that my be my monitor settings. hard to see the lines between the shows on the listings screen.
23:00<Captain_Murdoch>is the mythweb2 guy in here?
23:00* Captain_Murdochcan't remember his handle
23:00<Chutt>i don't think he's ever come in here
23:01<Captain_Murdoch>ok. thought he did at one point. guess I'll look into this bug myself and post a patch for him or commit it.
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23:21<Chutt>why do people try to help out and just spout totally wrong information?
23:40<radsaq>'cause they're fucking stupid
23:40<radsaq>or were you not looking for an answer to that
23:43<mdz>Chutt: I have a gf2mx, btw
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