| 00:01 | <PktLoss> | Hmm, I think my PC may be to slow to use this, and its a SCSII drive so DMA isnt going to come into it |
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| 00:03 | <danc`> | does anyone use qt 3.2? |
| 00:03 | <courtlr> | not yet. |
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| 00:07 | <PktLoss> | I never really liked triallan's irc client |
| 00:07 | <PktLoss> | Though i am enjoying the Beta2 client from them for the IM stuff |
| 00:07 | <courtlr> | I had to install windows agian and I am too lazy to download mirc on dial up agian |
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| 00:08 | <courtlr> | mikegrb: what am I holding on sec for? |
| 00:09 | <PktLoss> | courtlr if your so inclined, and you give me the command, i could download the cvs version on my linux box. tar it, and send it to you |
| 00:09 | <courtlr> | mike told me that he would do it for me |
| 00:10 | <PktLoss> | k |
| 00:10 | <courtlr> | thank-you for offering |
| 00:10 | <Chutt> | danc, should be fine if you're using the 'blue' theme |
| 00:10 | <courtlr> | Chutt: did you ever make the visor the default theme? |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | no. |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | maybe later. |
| 00:11 | <courtlr> | ok |
| 00:11 | <PktLoss> | Are there any CPU hungry features i can turn off (ie, would reducing the delay or something help). I like the front end a lot more than xawtv for just normal viewing |
| 00:27 | <courtlr> | thanks mike |
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| 01:36 | <Timon> | damn mysql 3 not supporting subselects |
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| 01:48 | <Chutt> | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7875220149.html |
| 01:49 | <Chutt> | last bullet |
| 01:49 | <mikegrb> | aye cap'n |
| 01:50 | <mikegrb> | :-) |
| 01:50 | <Chutt> | not really sure what they're doin, but.. |
| 01:51 | * mikegrb | is backing up his xbox harddrive |
| 01:51 | <Chutt> | just goin through my referrer logs |
| 01:51 | <mikegrb> | oic |
| 02:16 | <Timon> | woot! the lcd overhaul is that much closer! Perfected the menuing code! |
| 02:20 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 02:22 | <Timon> | Its got support for item scrolling if its longer then lcdWidth - 3 on an individual item basis. Its prety neat. |
| 02:23 | <Timon> | Most of the changes are geared more towards displays with more than 2 lines. Though I have compatability for 2 line displays |
| 02:23 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 02:23 | <bline> | mmh |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | I wonder if my vfd and lcd's are supported |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | lo bline |
| 02:24 | <Timon> | bigguy: Does it work under lcdproc? |
| 02:24 | <bline> | afternoon |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | Timon: no idea |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | that's why I said I wonder |
| 02:24 | <Timon> | bigguy: whats the make/model etc |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | dunno off hand |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | they are still boxed up from my move back home |
| 02:25 | <Timon> | do you know who makes them? Matrix Orbital? |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | gonna be moving off to school in a few weeks so |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | no they are hitachi I think |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | HD44 something |
| 02:25 | <Timon> | bah, skool. I get to start later this month |
| 02:26 | <bigguy> | maybe |
| 02:26 | <bigguy> | the 26th is the first day for me |
| 02:26 | <Timon> | 25 for me |
| 02:27 | <bigguy> | ghosting a harddrive image to cdr is fun </sarcasm> |
| 02:28 | <Timon> | bigguy: The hd44780 is supported |
| 02:29 | <bigguy> | yeah that's it |
| 02:29 | <bigguy> | not sure about the vfd's |
| 02:30 | <bigguy> | I know all the lcd's I have are hd44780 though |
| 02:30 | <Timon> | you should get the cwlinux one. Its really nice and polished |
| 02:31 | <bigguy> | cwlinux one what? |
| 02:31 | <Timon> | lcd |
| 02:31 | <bigguy> | but that takes money |
| 02:31 | <bigguy> | I don't have any |
| 02:31 | <bigguy> | :) |
| 02:31 | <Timon> | heh |
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| 02:37 | <bigguy> | I wish I had a spindle of these cdr pros |
| 03:08 | <jhurliman> | bigguy: what do you use to ghost hard drive images? |
| 03:09 | <bigguy> | in ghost or Trueimage |
| 03:09 | <bigguy> | arg |
| 03:09 | <bigguy> | -in |
| 03:10 | <bigguy> | there's supposed to be an opensource one but I've not seen it |
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| 03:19 | <bline> | parted is nice |
| 03:35 | <Chutt> | well, this bites |
| 03:35 | <bigguy> | what's up, Chutt ? |
| 03:36 | <Chutt> | see my email to the -dev list |
| 03:37 | <bigguy> | ok I'll check it out later |
| 03:37 | <bigguy> | not able to atm |
| 03:38 | <bline> | the sched_yield email? |
| 03:38 | <Chutt> | no |
| 03:38 | <Chutt> | what i just sent =) |
| 03:38 | <bline> | not here yet |
| 03:42 | <bline> | ahh, just got here |
| 03:42 | <bline> | I'll be sure and not upgrade :) |
| 03:44 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 03:44 | <bigguy> | must be bad |
| 03:59 | <hadees> | just my own curiosity but what distros do you guys use |
| 03:59 | <hadees> | with mythtv that is |
| 04:03 | <bigguy> | debian |
| 04:04 | <bigguy> | as does chutt |
| 04:04 | <bigguy> | and mdz |
| 04:04 | <bigguy> | bline is a gentoo user I believe |
| 04:04 | <bline> | yeah |
| 04:05 | <bline> | not for the faint of heart |
| 04:05 | <bigguy> | or for the lacking of processor/ram on a build system |
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| 10:37 | --> You | are now talking on #mythtv |
| 10:37 | -!- | Topic for #mythtv is http://www.MythTV.org/ |
| 10:37 | -!- | Topic for #mythtv set by Timon at Sun Aug 3 20:08:51 |
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| 11:13 | <chmod_700> | morning anyone? |
| 11:15 | <Chutt> | mdz, changes were mainly in the source bits |
| 11:16 | <chmod_700> | morning Chutt |
| 11:16 | <mdz_> | Chutt: what changes? |
| 11:16 | <Chutt> | the vblank stuff |
| 11:17 | <mdz_> | oh, did you release 0.11 or something? |
| 11:17 | <mdz_> | or did I miss a previous message from you? |
| 11:17 | <chmod_700> | so don't upgrade nvidia drivers? |
| 11:17 | <mdz_> | oh, you were talking about the nvidia driver |
| 11:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
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| 11:18 | <chmod_700> | is mythtv.org down or is it my DNS? |
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| 11:22 | <chmod_700> | still down here |
| 11:22 | <Chutt> | wow, you're observant |
| 11:23 | <chmod_700> | eh? |
| 11:24 | <chmod_700> | just trying to help |
| 11:24 | <chmod_700> | no reason to be a dick |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | i always get a dozen or so people emailing me whenever there's a problem with one of the services i provide |
| 11:24 | <Chutt> | it's really damn annoying |
| 11:24 | <chmod_700> | i get the same thing, comes with the territory |
| 11:25 | <chmod_700> | being a dick to users is no way to handle it though |
| 11:25 | <Chutt> | then don't do it |
| 11:25 | <chmod_700> | don't be a jerk |
| 11:25 | <chmod_700> | you didnt reply to the original message |
| 11:25 | <chmod_700> | just making sure you got it |
| 11:25 | <chmod_700> | jesus dude, you got a chip on your shoulder |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | sure, whatever |
| 11:26 | <chmod_700> | vacation time maybe? |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | i should just ignore dumbasses |
| 11:26 | <chmod_700> | whoa |
| 11:27 | <chmod_700> | so im dumb because i told you your website is down? |
| 11:27 | <chmod_700> | trying to do you a favor and you go off on me? |
| 11:27 | <Chutt> | no, you're dumb for continuing to babble on in here |
| 11:27 | <chmod_700> | you're keeping up nicely |
| 11:27 | <chmod_700> | you're a stupidhead! |
| 11:27 | <chmod_700> | </done> |
| 11:27 | <Chutt> | well, what i really should do is bother to op myself |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | so i can remove people that annoy me |
| 11:28 | <chmod_700> | yea that would be testament to your infinite maturity |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 11:28 | <chmod_700> | just ban people that make you look at what a dick you are |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | this is _my_ channel |
| 11:28 | <chmod_700> | oooooohhhhhh |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | dude, i'm an asshole |
| 11:28 | <chmod_700> | go for it hotshot |
| 11:28 | <chmod_700> | apparently |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | no ifs ands or buts about it |
| 11:28 | <Chutt> | freely admitted |
| 11:29 | <chmod_700> | why do open source if you don't have any patience with people? |
| 11:29 | <Chutt> | because most people aren't morons |
| 11:29 | <chmod_700> | how do you figure? |
| 11:29 | <chmod_700> | i just think its funny that you think i'm subpar intelligence because i told you your site was down |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | i said 'wow, you're observant' |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | did you think i hadn't noticed it was down? |
| 11:30 | <chmod_700> | a simple thx would have been so much more productive |
| 11:30 | <chmod_700> | i don't know |
| 11:30 | <chmod_700> | i don't always notice when my sites go down |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | it's been gone for, what, a little over an hour now |
| 11:30 | <chmod_700> | 'wow, you're observant' is a sarcastic stab |
| 11:31 | <chmod_700> | how was I to know? |
| 11:31 | <chmod_700> | i just tried it |
| 11:31 | <Chutt> | exactly. |
| 11:31 | <chmod_700> | instead of saying 'i know' or 'k thanks' or 'got it' you decide to be a dick |
| 11:31 | <chmod_700> | i'm just wondering why? |
| 11:31 | <radsaq> | what are you guys 3 years old or something? |
| 11:31 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:31 | <chmod_700> | im almost 4! |
| 11:31 | <radsaq> | I think it's time out time! |
| 11:32 | <chmod_700> | i guess i need a nap |
| 11:32 | <Chutt> | chmod_700, if you don't like the way i act, feel free to leave. |
| 11:32 | <chmod_700> | anyways, you got a good thing going here dude, but being a jerk to users isn't gonna help your project |
| 11:33 | <Chutt> | why do i care about users? |
| 11:33 | <chmod_700> | that attitude is childish as shit, you can't ban people from real life |
| 11:33 | <chmod_700> | why open source it if you don't care? |
| 11:33 | <Chutt> | because i'm doing this for fun, and annoying people don't make it fun? |
| 11:34 | <chmod_700> | Well have fun with your yes-men, and shitty attitude |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | i do |
| 11:34 | <chmod_700> | feel free to ban me whenever |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | why should i bother? |
| 11:34 | <chmod_700> | probably makes your anus pucker with pride |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | you may eventually contribute something |
| 11:34 | <jkolb> | Will one of you call the other a Nazi, please, so this conversation can end? |
| 11:34 | <Chutt> | i highly doubt it, but, whatever |
| 11:35 | <chmod_700> | you guys agree that he is a dick right? |
| 11:35 | <chmod_700> | they probably won't say anything, but they are thinking it |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | i agree than i'm a dick |
| 11:35 | <chmod_700> | cool |
| 11:35 | <chmod_700> | there's a start |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | i don't think you need help from the peanut gallery. |
| 11:35 | <radsaq> | I agree that he's probably laughing his ass off right now |
| 11:35 | <chmod_700> | me too |
| 11:36 | <radsaq> | at your expense |
| 11:36 | <chmod_700> | no cash out of my pocket |
| 11:36 | <radsaq> | and you shoulda shut up about 5 minutes ago instead of having taken the bait |
| 11:37 | <chmod_700> | looks like it |
| 11:37 | <chmod_700> | i just don;t like being talking to like a jerk |
| 11:37 | <chmod_700> | talked* |
| 11:37 | <Chutt> | i don't like people that waste my time. |
| 11:37 | <chmod_700> | how did i waste your time? |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | well, for one, you started arguing with me |
| 11:38 | <chmod_700> | you learned a valuable lesson in this young grasshopper |
| 11:38 | <Chutt> | what, i should just ignore people completely? |
| 11:38 | <chmod_700> | i don;t know what the lesson is |
| 11:38 | <chmod_700> | sure ignore people |
| 11:39 | <chmod_700> | so anyway's what's the story with the nvidia driver? |
| 11:39 | <Chutt> | no more vblank information in the latest version |
| 11:39 | <chmod_700> | do refreshing gets wonky? |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | before, i could have it wake me up every refresh of the screen |
| 11:40 | <chmod_700> | lets take some aggression out on their techs |
| 11:40 | <chmod_700> | that;s cool |
| 11:40 | <chmod_700> | im using a geforce2 card with experimental sync and it rules |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | but using the same technique on the new driver only notifies you every 60 ms or so |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 11:40 | <chmod_700> | even on my shitty duron 750 |
| 11:40 | <Chutt> | super smooth playback |
| 11:41 | <chmod_700> | yea |
| 11:41 | <Chutt> | and if the refresh is every 16 ms, but you're only getting notified every 60 |
| 11:41 | <Chutt> | and you assume that what it's telling you is right, things don't exactly work out right |
| 11:41 | <chmod_700> | well at least nvidia is still releasing drivers all the time, we could be stuck with some reference deal they made in 1998 |
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| 11:42 | <chmod_700> | im getting a pundit in the mail today, so i have to give up nvidia anyways *shrug* |
| 11:42 | <chmod_700> | sure sucks for the nvidia people though |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | eh, it's not that hard to downgrade |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | or just not upgrade |
| 11:42 | <chmod_700> | what supposed features do the newer driver have? |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | support for the newest card |
| 11:43 | <chmod_700> | fx series is a marketing ploy |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | some random bugfixes |
| 11:43 | <chmod_700> | my geforce2pro is faster than a fx5600 |
| 11:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:44 | <chmod_700> | the card is 2.5 years old |
| 11:45 | <mdz_> | the experimental sync stuff works with geforce2 cards? |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 11:45 | <chmod_700> | yea it works awesome |
| 11:45 | <mdz_> | hmm, that's what I have |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | should work with any nvidia card |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | as long as you're not running the newest driver =) |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | oh, it probably doesn't do the nv driver |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | which you probably use |
| 11:46 | <mdz_> | right, but I could find out if it could |
| 11:46 | <mdz_> | what's the "DRM vblank" type? |
| 11:46 | <Chutt> | dunno what that works on |
| 11:47 | <Chutt> | that's vektor's code |
| 11:49 | <chmod_700> | is anyone working on a myth security modules (for home security monitoring)? |
| 11:49 | <Chutt> | not to my knowledge |
| 11:49 | <chmod_700> | i have a par-port based door monitor i use a perl script to poll |
| 11:49 | <chmod_700> | it would be cool to build a tv interface to monitor, arm, disarm it |
| 11:50 | <chmod_700> | and since myth is on the web it could page me, or call cops etc... |
| 11:50 | <chmod_700> | i could have it page you Chutt :P |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 11:51 | <chmod_700> | wonder if there would be any interest |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | there's plenty of people on the mailing lists |
| 11:51 | <Chutt> | i'm sure someone would be interested |
| 11:51 | <chmod_700> | is that too far from the sight of the mythbox? |
| 11:51 | <chmod_700> | the vision i should say |
| 11:52 | <chmod_700> | it would just be convenient to have it all remote controlled on the tv |
| 11:52 | <Chutt> | i don't care what random plugins there are, really |
| 11:52 | <chmod_700> | cool |
| 11:53 | <chmod_700> | it would be cool to make an answering machine out of it too, with a voice modem |
| 11:53 | <chmod_700> | then you could use the remote to go thru calls, etc... |
| 11:53 | <chmod_700> | but I don't have a land-line anymore |
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| 11:54 | <chmod_700> | are you personally going to work on any more modules, or just stick to the core? |
| 11:54 | <Chutt> | there's nothing else major i really want to add |
| 11:55 | <chmod_700> | yea it already does a ton |
| 11:56 | <mdz_> | there was already a thread on mythtv-dev about security cameras |
| 11:56 | <mdz_> | I don't think it makes much sense, but is at least one other person asking about it |
| 11:56 | <mdz_> | unless that was you |
| 11:57 | <chmod_700> | nah |
| 11:57 | <chmod_700> | i was talking more about monitoring doors and windows and smoke alarms |
| 11:57 | <chmod_700> | i already have a console based security system |
| 11:57 | <chmod_700> | i was thinking of taking a stab at porting it to myth |
| 11:58 | <chmod_700> | so i couls monitor stuff from the tv, or maybe mythweb2 |
| 11:58 | <chmod_700> | could* |
| 11:59 | <mdz_> | the DRM stuff uses /dev/dri/card* |
| 12:00 | <mdz_> | seems to let you block until the next refresh |
| 12:00 | <mdz_> | (drmWaitVBlank) |
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| 12:00 | <Chutt> | right, but i don't know what cards that works on |
| 12:08 | <Chutt> | heh, that guy complaining about increased spam |
| 12:08 | <vektor> | i810, mga, ati |
| 12:09 | <vektor> | i810 includes the i815 i830 i845 too |
| 12:09 | <Chutt> | vektor, the nvidia stuff doesn't work with their newest driver anymore |
| 12:09 | <vektor> | And I think there's something else. |
| 12:09 | <vektor> | Chutt: Bull, really? |
| 12:09 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:09 | <vektor> | Chutt: Email Mark and ask what's up. |
| 12:09 | <Chutt> | looks like the support bits in the driver were removed |
| 12:10 | <Chutt> | yeah, suddenly sleeping for 60ms every time it tried to poll the driver doesn't exactly lead to good video playback =) |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | ah, back to smooth video |
| 12:14 | <vektor> | heh |
| 12:14 | <vektor> | This is pretty terrible then. |
| 12:14 | <vektor> | I'm sure it's a bug. |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | 'video_output' mean = '33379.300000', std. dev. = '52.650266', fps = '29.958687' |
| 12:15 | <Chutt> | yay |
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| 12:17 | <mdz_> | I wonder if it's possible to use the nvidia kernel driver to get /dev/nvidia0 but still use the xfree86 nv driver |
| 12:17 | <mdz_> | and have it actually work |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | vektor, there may be some other way to get that information, but i don't see it at all |
| 12:23 | <vektor> | Chutt: You should ask Mark. |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | i've got other stuff to do right now |
| 12:25 | <vektor> | Ok, want me to ask? |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | i can do it later |
| 12:26 | <vektor> | Ok. |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | but you've talked to him before, right? |
| 12:26 | <vektor> | Yeah, I have. |
| 12:26 | <vektor> | So maybe it would be better if I do it. |
| 12:26 | <Chutt> | might be more likely to get a response from you than from some random guy emailing him |
| 12:26 | <vektor> | Dunno. |
| 12:27 | <vektor> | He responds to a lot of mail on the X lists from 'random guys' about his drivers. :) |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | he does both the nvidia and nv ones? |
| 12:27 | <vektor> | Yes. |
| 12:27 | <vektor> | He just rewrote the NV one btw. |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | that's weird |
| 12:27 | <vektor> | So maybe this is part of the rewrite that this is disabled for now. |
| 12:27 | <vektor> | The NVIDIA one is based on the NV one, AFAIK. |
| 12:27 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 12:28 | <vektor> | Like, he open sources everything he can. |
| 12:28 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:28 | <vektor> | So any 2D bugs in NVIDIA are likely in NV. |
| 12:28 | <vektor> | (for XVIDEO too) |
| 12:47 | <mdz_> | vektor: oh, nice |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | vektor: does this mean that the vsync stuff might be supported in nv? |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | Well no, it requires a kernel component. |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | Just like DMA. |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | well, yes |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | There are things you just can't do in a userspace driver. |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | Ohh, you mean using the NVIDIA kernel module only. |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | but does it require that you use the binary XFree86 driver |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | And not the X driver. |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | right |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | <mdz_> I wonder if it's possible to use the nvidia kernel driver to get /dev/nvidia0 but still use the xfree86 nv driver |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | I have no idea. |
| 12:48 | <mdz_> | I'll try it sometime |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | Yeah, I saw that but it didn't 'click'. |
| 12:48 | <vektor> | Ok. |
| 12:49 | <mdz_> | it certainly seems possible |
| 12:49 | <vektor> | What would be the point? |
| 12:49 | <vektor> | Avoid using DMA, but get the interrupt? |
| 12:49 | <mdz_> | one less binary module to mess with |
| 12:50 | <mdz_> | I hate dealing with that stuff |
| 12:50 | <vektor> | Why is it a big deal? |
| 12:58 | <dopez> | is anyone else here able to crash the frontend while scrolling through the recorded items? (sometimes within a few seconds, sometimes after a while), it also seems to happen when scrolling through the delete recordings menu (got a backtrace at http://www.xs4all.nl/~dopez/segfault.txt ) |
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| 12:58 | <Chutt> | watch recordings and delete recordings is the same bit of code |
| 12:58 | <Chutt> | hey thor |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | dopez, one sec |
| 13:00 | <dopez> | they did look kinda familiar ;) |
| 13:00 | <thor_> | hey |
| 13:00 | <thor_> | any disasters to report ? |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | dopez, should be fixed |
| 13:00 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | the transcoding stuff didn't work for me, but i think i just ran out of disk space |
| 13:01 | <thor_> | ah |
| 13:01 | <Chutt> | and i haven't looked into it more, so i don't want to bug you about it just yet =) |
| 13:01 | <thor_> | hmmm .... suppose I shoudl check for that |
| 13:02 | <thor_> | almost done the new title ripping interface |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | the time remaining counter was all wonky |
| 13:02 | <thor_> | hmmmm .... one or two pass ? |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | it was way over the time remaining when i killed it off |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | like i said, i hadn't looked into it at all =) |
| 13:02 | <Chutt> | i will, though, and let you know |
| 13:02 | <thor_> | k |
| 13:03 | <thor_> | thanks |
| 13:03 | <thor_> | if I can figure out how to hack a MythRemoteLineEdit into a themed dialogue and not have the focus get all confused, I'll get the new dialog commited soon |
| 13:06 | <thor_> | gotta go ... check back later tonight |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 13:06 | <Chutt> | later =) |
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| 13:08 | <dopez> | Chutt: cool, thanks ;) (testing it now) |
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| 13:58 | <dja> | this is probably old news, but is anyone else able to get to the website? |
| 13:58 | <Chutt> | very old news. |
| 13:59 | <dja> | sorry :-( is it bad? |
| 13:59 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 14:00 | <Chutt> | if the support guys at the colo weren't idiots, it would've been up hours ago |
| 14:00 | <dja> | ahh -- thanks for the info. |
| 14:06 | <dja> | Chutt: which version of the nvidia driver were you using (before you found out they broke the sync stuff :-) |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | 4363 |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | i think |
| 14:06 | <dja> | thanks -- I've been running 4496 and I was wondering why that box didn't seem to make a difference to me. I assumed it was user error. :-) |
| 14:06 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | checking that box will make things a _lot_ worse |
| 14:07 | <Chutt> | with the newest driver |
| 14:08 | <dja> | :-) thanks |
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| 15:19 | <merf> | is it a known bug for mythtv to not reset the channel when starting a recording? |
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| 15:30 | <Captain_Murdoch> | merf: I think it used to work that way, but I think that was fixed in CVS a while back so it should be OK in 0.11 |
| 15:31 | <merf> | Captain_Murdoch: damn this cvs :D |
| 15:31 | <merf> | i installed the 0.10 debs and it works real well |
| 15:32 | <merf> | maybe i'll just switch to cvs.. |
| 15:39 | <mdz_> | merf: do you have multiple inputs? |
| 15:39 | <merf> | mdz_: i wish ;) |
| 15:39 | <mdz_> | it always sets the channel before starting a recording, including in 0.10 |
| 15:40 | <mdz_> | there is an apparent bttv driver bug which causes the audio to be wrong in certain situations with multiple inputs |
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| 15:40 | <merf> | mdz_: i've got myth recording shows so i can watch them later and delete them, at a low quality |
| 15:40 | <merf> | but i've got cron running a script which runs mencoder to record Simpsons and such at high quality |
| 15:41 | <mdz_> | why don't you use mythtv to do both? |
| 15:41 | <merf> | so say mencoder records something on channel 51, and later that day myth wants to record on 37, it'll have the right program metadata, but will have recorded on the wrong channel |
| 15:41 | <Aridhol> | would mythTV work without a tuner? I have a geforce 4 MX 440 with video in/out |
| 15:41 | <Chutt> | kja == kenneth aafloy? |
| 15:42 | <Chutt> | hrm, he's not here |
| 15:42 | <merf> | mdz_: i've only got 8gb on myth's box, and mencoder records into an nfs mount |
| 15:42 | <merf> | mdz_: also, there's the quality difference, and i'd rather have them as regular mpeg4 avi's as opposed to the hack nuppelvideo |
| 15:42 | <merf> | s/hack/hacked/ |
| 15:42 | <mdz_> | merf: mythtv works fine over NFS, and also supports different quality levels |
| 15:43 | <merf> | mdz_: you can make myth record some things crappy quality and some things better? i must've missed that |
| 15:43 | <mdz_> | merf: yes |
| 15:43 | <merf> | crazy |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | mdz, hey, have you thought about a different system for recording quality at all? =) |
| 15:44 | <mdz_> | for about 6 months now |
| 15:44 | <mdz_> | Chutt: different how? |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | something that'd support mixed environments -- different tuner card types, etc |
| 15:44 | <merf> | well.. i like keeping the low quality stuff on myth's box and the good quality stuff on this box. |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | different machiens |
| 15:44 | <Chutt> | machines |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | was thinking just have a set of quality levels the user could customized in groups |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | low/med/hi |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | or whatnot |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | then it'd just select the appropriate recording profile for the card it's using from that list |
| 15:45 | <mdz_> | so add hostname and capturecard columns to recordingprofile? |
| 15:45 | <Chutt> | naw |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | that doesn't work |
| 15:46 | <mdz_> | that'd give you separate profiles for each card and host |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | if you want to be able to assign quality levels to recordings |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | like, you tell it 'high', but 'high' is an analog-mpeg4 setting |
| 15:46 | <Chutt> | how's it going to find the pvr-250 setting that matches that? |
| 15:47 | <mdz_> | currently you don't tell it 'high', you give it an ID |
| 15:47 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | that's what doesn't map to having multiple card types |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | if each ID had multiple entries with specified capturecard and host, you could do that |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | basically change ID from a number to a name, and don't require it to be unique |
| 15:48 | <merf> | since the website is down and i'm ignorant, can anyone give me the commands to checkout myth? |
| 15:48 | <merf> | (or.. since the colo's down, is cvs down too?) |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | website's up |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | merf: the instructions are in the HOWTO, which is in the files you already have |
| 15:48 | <mdz_> | in the mythtv-doc package |
| 15:48 | <merf> | mdz_: touche |
| 15:48 | <Chutt> | btw |
| 15:49 | <mdz_> | I see what you mean, though. you want another level of indirection |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:49 | <mdz_> | it seems like a lot of configuration though |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | maybe |
| 15:49 | <mdz_> | like if you have low, medium and high, and both a hardware and software encoder |
| 15:49 | <mdz_> | you'd have to specify 6 profiles |
| 15:49 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | but i was planning on including defaults |
| 15:50 | <mdz_> | defaults would definitely be good |
| 15:50 | <mdz_> | I had always meant to do that and never got around to it |
| 15:50 | <mdz_> | seeing as how I use one profile for everything |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | software encode, pvr-250 hardware, mjpeg hardware |
| 15:50 | <mdz_> | 3 default levels for each |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | maybe two levels of software encoding |
| 15:50 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | software encode (fast machine), software encode (slow machine) |
| 15:51 | <Chutt> | have to switch around the interface for selecting, but that shouldn't be too hard |
| 15:51 | <mdz_> | I want to tie that all in to my grand scheme for overrides |
| 15:51 | <mdz_> | they could be per-host as well as per-program |
| 15:52 | <mdz_> | the override table would match a bit like the record table, but without the type. null columns would match everything |
| 15:52 | <mdz_> | columns for starttime, endtime, title, host, etc. |
| 15:52 | <mdz_> | so you could set a default for a host, or a default for a host+title, etc. |
| 15:53 | <mdz_> | and it would sort for the closest match |
| 15:53 | <mdz_> | the same setup could be used to suppress and unsuppress recordings |
| 15:53 | <mdz_> | and conflicts and rankings |
| 15:54 | <Chutt> | sounds like it'd work |
| 15:56 | <mdz_> | the UI would need a lot of thought though |
| 15:56 | <mdz_> | as would a scheme for keeping the existing UIs for those things |
| 15:57 | <mdz_> | for example, if you both unsuppressed and overrode the quality for a particular program, ideally those would be in the same row |
| 15:57 | <mdz_> | but I think the implementation is easier if they are not. just makes the override query a little more complex |
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| 17:31 | <mdz_> | Chutt: working video on ia64 |
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| 18:05 | <kja> | Feature: What about some common way of presenting a warning or error to the user via the GUI/OSD? |
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| 18:11 | <kja> | For example: I have a 'boxed' version of Myth frontend running, while my backend has a DVB card. If my backend for some reason is not there my myth frontend crashes and gets restarted.... |
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| 18:23 | <thor_> | Chutt, you around? |
| 18:29 | <mdz> | thor_: still no release in sight; you're free to keep hacking :-) |
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| 18:33 | <thor_> | mdz, cool ... |
| 18:36 | <kja> | what handle does ben (dvb guy) use here (if he's ever here)? |
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| 18:47 | <courtlr> | which version of xmltv is required for the cvs? |
| 18:49 | <mdz> | 0.5.15 works fine |
| 18:50 | <kja> | I remeber something about checking out xmltv from cvs a couple of weeks ago (tv_grab_sn) |
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| 18:52 | <courtlr> | ok |
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| 18:56 | <kja> | When I select 'Record all showings of this program on .....' the other's don't get selected (tv_grab_sn show names as '<show>(x)' ), is this known? |
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| 19:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:43 | <Chutt> | tmk, yo |
| 19:43 | <tmk> | y0 |
| 19:46 | <tmk> | any news? |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | naw, not really |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | no idea what the guy on the ivtv list's issue could be |
| 19:47 | <Chutt> | i even went and upgraded to that firmware rev, stuff's working perfectly for me |
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| 20:26 | <tmk> | chutt, see msg |
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| 20:29 | <bbeattie> | *streches his feet after the flight home* Lots of patches this week... |
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| 20:33 | <hadees> | is the freestyle really just as good as the pvr-250? |
| 20:33 | <tmk> | hades: same guts |
| 20:33 | <tmk> | i think |
| 20:34 | <hadees> | i heard it was the same chip |
| 20:34 | <bline> | hey Chutt, he posted lircevent.h in the email, just not lircevent.cpp. |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | it is |
| 20:34 | <bline> | because the header contains all the functions |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | if you want to test it |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | i'll help you get it going |
| 20:34 | <tmk> | <-- wrote ivtv driver |
| 20:34 | <bline> | hey tmk |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | sup bline |
| 20:35 | <hadees> | tmk: you wrote the entire ivtv driver? |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | bline helped a little |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | :) |
| 20:35 | <bline> | hows the decoder support going? |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | it works :) |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | i haven't started phase2 yet |
| 20:35 | <bline> | finialize it yet? |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | nah |
| 20:35 | <bline> | oh, ok |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | i've been moving |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | just got internet back a couple days ago |
| 20:35 | <tmk> | next week i think i'll be back into programming again |
| 20:36 | <bline> | cool |
| 20:37 | <tmk> | tell chutt he's a slacker for me |
| 20:37 | <tmk> | i'm going home |
| 20:39 | <bline> | later :) |
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| 20:41 | <Chutt> | bline, that diff look ok to you? |
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| 20:46 | <hadees> | how is mythdvd transcoding in conjuntion to normal mythtv television recording |
| 20:46 | <bline> | Chutt: just looking through it |
| 20:47 | <hadees> | I mean i know it must be pcu intensive but is there a warning or an option to hold off till no one is recording |
| 20:47 | <hadees> | cpu |
| 20:49 | <bline> | wish I had more context, but it looks find in what I can see |
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| 21:00 | * paulproteus | waves to jasoncohen |
| 21:01 | <jasoncohen> | hello |
| 21:01 | <jasoncohen> | what exactly is the difference between "regular out" and "line out"? |
| 21:01 | * paulproteus | hints, "Describe your problem, but know it's a FAQ" :) |
| 21:03 | <jasoncohen> | The problem is that when I play live tv in mythtv, 2 audio streams are played which are usually out of sync. 1 stream stops when I exit tv mode, and the second has to be stopped by starting another tv program. |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | read the howto. |
| 21:03 | <Chutt> | you ignored the entire section on setting up your soundcard/mixer. |
| 21:05 | <kja> | You are mean Chutt! ;) |
| 21:06 | <jasoncohen> | oh, i thoght that section was just for setting up ALSA ..reading it now. Thanks for the help. |
| 21:06 | <mikegrb> | so are people who waste his valuable coding time |
| 21:06 | <mikegrb> | it wouldn't be that big of a deal but it happens /all/ the time |
| 21:07 | <mikegrb> | jasoncohen: the topic in the contents I think is a bit misleading but yes, once you get into it it is laid out a bit better |
| 21:13 | <kja> | mikegrb: and we all should help him answer those questions before he does, then (i'm a fresh joiner, but I try)? |
| 21:13 | <mikegrb> | yes :-) |
| 21:13 | <mikegrb> | that's the point of open source... if you can't code there is bound to be something you can do to help |
| 21:14 | <kja> | YEA, I Love IT! |
| 21:15 | <paulproteus> | (I thought Chutt's answer was adequate and to the point.) |
| 21:15 | <hadees> | streamlined |
| 21:15 | <paulproteus> | Unlike some stupid, disenchanged losers in #debian, Chutt's answer was at least helpful. |
| 21:15 | <kja> | He's just to fast (knows it to well :) |
| 21:15 | * paulproteus | grins |
| 21:22 | <jasoncohen> | damn..i should have screwed around with kmix. Now I have no sound with tv apps. |
| 21:22 | <jasoncohen> | *shouldn't |
| 21:22 | <kja> | Question: If you do a 'Record this program whenever...' on a program named <name>(x), will all <name>(x) be selected then? |
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| 21:23 | <jasoncohen> | okay this is weird...now the sound works in mythtv, but in no other applications |
| 21:24 | <thor_> | Chutt, mdz.etc.,you around? |
| 21:25 | <kja> | jasoncohen: has something to do with <soundapp> (can't remeber the name, find it in controll panel)! |
| 21:25 | <jasoncohen> | kmix? |
| 21:25 | <kja> | nope, a<something> |
| 21:25 | <jasoncohen> | alsamixer? |
| 21:26 | <kja> | not that either |
| 21:26 | <jasoncohen> | aumix? |
| 21:26 | <kja> | not a mixer |
| 21:26 | <thor_> | Chutt, if you catch this on scrollback, a better mythdvd TitleDialog is on it's way .... just sorting out Focus issues ..... |
| 21:26 | <kja> | a multiplexer |
| 21:26 | <mikegrb> | jasoncohen: this happens because myth records the sound and plays it back |
| 21:26 | <Chutt> | thor, yo |
| 21:26 | <mikegrb> | jasoncohen: other aps just let it pass through |
| 21:27 | <mikegrb> | jasoncohen: selecting the linein made it work for mythtv but muting it makes it not work for other aps |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | kja, it matches off of exact titles |
| 21:27 | <jasoncohen> | what's a multiplexer? |
| 21:27 | <thor_> | Chutt, things are coming along here in Beirut .... any well explained disasters to report ? |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | haven't been at the computer much, really |
| 21:27 | <thor_> | ah..... |
| 21:28 | <kja> | tv_grab_sn gives episodes in (), bet it would be easy to change, I'll look into it! |
| 21:28 | <mikegrb> | jasoncohen: if you are using alsa your best bet may be to look for info on alsamixer, you can set stuff from command line so you can right a wrapper script to unmute line-in, run the tv app, and remute |
| 21:28 | <jasoncohen> | mikegrb: i got sound back |
| 21:28 | <jasoncohen> | AC97 setting |
| 21:28 | <mikegrb> | kja: are you thinking of alsactl? |
| 21:29 | <kja> | mike: no, that deamon that always receives/sends sound in kde....(ARG#%""#) |
| 21:29 | <thor_> | Chutt, if you have a chance .... any thoughts on storage space failures would be grand |
| 21:29 | <mikegrb> | kja: oh, arts |
| 21:29 | <kja> | YEA |
| 21:30 | <mikegrb> | :) |
| 21:30 | <jasoncohen> | with tv i only get 2 speakers working now |
| 21:31 | <thor_> | to all, anyone seen http://www.focustheater.com/ |
| 21:31 | <mikegrb> | yes |
| 21:31 | <kja> | no, bout to though |
| 21:32 | <mikegrb> | thor_: you have a question or just pointing it out? |
| 21:32 | <thor_> | don't know |
| 21:32 | <Chutt> | thor, that's jhurliman's stuff, he's in here often |
| 21:32 | <mikegrb> | thor_: I saw your post abt the rip gui, or maybe it was IRC... The Matrix has 46 some odd titles <g> |
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| 21:33 | <thor_> | mikegrb, the interface will be *much* improved shortly |
| 21:34 | <kja> | looks good spec wise, the looks don't match any equipment i've ever seen though |
| 21:34 | <kja> | hi-fi wise |
| 21:34 | <mikegrb> | I was sure it would when I saw it the first time, that's why I didn't say anything... was funny though as that was my first try at it so I had to guess and just hit up to wrap around to the bottom |
| 21:34 | <kja> | I loke the looks of my ShuttleX ;) |
| 21:34 | <thor_> | Chutt, re: jhurliman, this looks a bit amateurish ... are the VIA people serious about anything? |
| 21:34 | <kja> | like |
| 21:36 | <Chutt> | thor, apparently via demoed mythtv (among other apps) at linuxworld |
| 21:36 | <thor_> | Chutt, good =) |
| 21:36 | <Chutt> | thor, and the oneboxmc people just contacted me last week, but i haven't heard from them |
| 21:36 | <thor_> | ah |
| 21:36 | <mikegrb> | I would have loved to have been there to see it |
| 21:36 | <Chutt> | well, again |
| 21:36 | <kja> | nice, expanding! |
| 21:37 | <thor_> | there's a business model in here somewhere .... |
| 21:37 | <mikegrb> | wonder if the HDTV card guy saw it |
| 21:38 | <kja> | what's all the fuzz about hdtv, for 1 most people don't owe a tv that can handle it (yet) |
| 21:38 | <thor_> | still .... make good software that does useful things .... then worry about other things .... |
| 21:39 | <kja> | Chutt: Are you announcing DVB as (mostly) stable in .11, or waiting? |
| 21:39 | <thor_> | Chutt, you had a successful transcode yet? |
| 21:40 | <Chutt> | kja, i'll announce it as 'getting there' |
| 21:40 | <kja> | thanks ;) |
| 21:41 | <kja> | U want the Common Interface in now, or when it's got a userbase? |
| 21:41 | <Chutt> | whenever ben likes the code. |
| 21:42 | <kja> | just want a timeframe of sorts... |
| 21:43 | <kja> | ben (partially accepted) the code as it was, untill I mentioned that it might become more... |
| 21:43 | <Chutt> | i want bigger stuff like that to go through him |
| 21:44 | <kja> | fine with me, nice to have something to work with on the side (as we don't have an emmidate need for it) |
| 21:44 | * thor_ | thinks kja must be Dutch |
| 21:45 | <kja> | would have been cool to announce 'simple ci support' with the 'getting there with dvb' though... |
| 21:46 | <kja> | Norwegian, totally NATO ;) |
| 21:46 | <kja> | crazy of such |
| 21:47 | <kja> | ssss, no such issues here ;) |
| 21:48 | <kja> | thor: why dutch by the way (i've seen them around some sat sites but..) |
| 21:49 | * thor_ | is Canadian, originally of Icelandic heritage, which fails to explain why he is spending August in Lebanon |
| 21:49 | <thor_> | kja, the Dutch speak so many languages ... |
| 21:49 | <thor_> | but always with a certain turn of phrase in English |
| 21:50 | <kja> | yea, that's true...norwegian isn't that far away from dutch |
| 21:50 | <kja> | ;) |
| 21:50 | <thor_> | Chutt, I go beddy-bye .... I'm going to try and finish the title dialog |
| 21:50 | <kja> | So, why are you spending August in Lebanon? Trouble? |
| 21:51 | <kja> | nite |
| 21:51 | <hadees> | mabey thor is a mythtv missionary |
| 21:52 | <thor_> | hey ..... |
| 21:53 | <thor_> | nothing untoward going on .... |
| 21:53 | <kja> | we'll safely assume untill he proves otherwise :) |
| 21:53 | <thor_> | my wife is Lebanese |
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| 21:54 | <kja> | aahhh, then we understand, how does she like Myth? |
| 21:55 | <thor_> | ... in a more productive vein ... Chutt ... I need to sign off ... any probs, please let me know ... hoping to have the new title ripping interface done soon (lots of libmyth changes) |
| 21:55 | <kja> | I don't have a wife (yet, hopefully), but I like it.... |
| 21:55 | <kja> | hopefull |
| 21:56 | <thor_> | night all |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | thor, ok =) |
| 21:56 | <Chutt> | g'nite |
| 21:56 | <kja> | night |
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| 21:59 | <WhiteRabt> | WOW, mythtv has made huge progress since i last looked at it! |
| 21:59 | <WhiteRabt> | and that was, like, 6 months ago |
| 22:01 | <kja> | 6 months is a long time my friend |
| 22:01 | <WhiteRabt> | yes, apparantly! |
| 22:01 | <WhiteRabt> | i'm very impressed |
| 22:02 | <kja> | credit Chutt, thor_ and others for their great work by spreading the word |
| 22:03 | <WhiteRabt> | I notice that the person posting on AVSforum about a linux hdtv card says that he will be hanging around here.. doe sthis mean that there is active development allready in getting this card working in tvtime? |
| 22:03 | <kja> | there is a 'perliminary' import for this card, yes |
| 22:03 | <mikegrb> | WhiteRabt: don't know abt tvtime but I believe it had useable support in myth now |
| 22:04 | <WhiteRabt> | hahaha, mixed up names... sorry |
| 22:04 | <kja> | support, I meant |
| 22:04 | <mikegrb> | The gentleman went to linuxworld and haven't seen him since he left |
| 22:05 | <WhiteRabt> | he recently posted on avsforum, so he's still active |
| 22:05 | <WhiteRabt> | 'bout an hour ago |
| 22:06 | <mikegrb> | ahh |
| 22:06 | <mikegrb> | perhaps he got a spot of web access |
| 22:07 | <kja> | this is what you are reffering to, right? (http://pchdtv.com/) |
| 22:07 | <WhiteRabt> | indeed |
| 22:08 | <WhiteRabt> | hmm... it claims that i need an ac3 passthrough and external amplifier on that site |
| 22:08 | <kja> | yup, 'perliminary' code in...is the status |
| 22:09 | <kja> | yup, I have that option on my Hauppauge Nexus-S too |
| 22:10 | <WhiteRabt> | are you replying to me? |
| 22:10 | <kja> | the card probably has an onboard mpeg-ac3 decoder which might be used |
| 22:10 | <kja> | yup |
| 22:10 | <WhiteRabt> | yea, the website doesn't seem to say it's optional ;) |
| 22:11 | <WhiteRabt> | under minimum requirements, it says sound card with spdif and external sound system |
| 22:11 | <WhiteRabt> | but hopefully, they're just audiophiles and couldn't bear to reccomend any less |
| 22:11 | <kja> | the card is very much alike my DVB card (if i'm not mistaken), and the audio/video can be routed either to the system or propretary outputs |
| 22:11 | <WhiteRabt> | that's fortunate |
| 22:12 | <kja> | yes, at least that's what I read from the 'perliminary' code |
| 22:13 | <kja> | Chutt: If you have time: When did Ben start on DVB? |
| 22:14 | <kja> | WhiteRabt: are you going to order this card? |
| 22:14 | <WhiteRabt> | I think so |
| 22:14 | <WhiteRabt> | I haven't seen any proof it's real yet though |
| 22:15 | <WhiteRabt> | I need a 3rd party to tell me it's real first ;) |
| 22:15 | <kja> | well, I don't mean to be rude, but do you have the tv set to support it ? |
| 22:15 | <mikegrb> | WhiteRabt: you might check the list archives, the guy who comes in here said he could get mythtv users free shipping |
| 22:16 | <kja> | cool |
| 22:16 | <WhiteRabt> | kja, no |
| 22:16 | <mikegrb> | WhiteRabt: he also offered them to people who were going to be at LinuxWorld |
| 22:16 | <WhiteRabt> | mike, i noticed |
| 22:17 | <kja> | offcourse you will be making a lot of high quality recordings, but I don't think you'll notice much of that untill you get a set.. |
| 22:17 | <mikegrb> | you have to get something first |
| 22:18 | <WhiteRabt> | kja, a hdtv is not the only high resolution device around |
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| 22:18 | <kja> | not to scare you or anything, but: |
| 22:18 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1918366938 Aug 6 22:35 1058_20030806214500_20030806223500.nuv |
| 22:18 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1919781118 Aug 6 23:55 1058_20030806230500_20030806235500.nuv |
| 22:18 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 378867810 Aug 8 21:00 1058_20030808200000_20030808210000.nuv |
| 22:18 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 66884835 Aug 8 21:25 1058_20030808210000_20030808212500.nuv |
| 22:18 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 41470349 Aug 8 21:45 1058_20030808213000_20030808214500.nuv |
| 22:19 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1804495385 Aug 8 22:35 1058_20030808214500_20030808223500.nuv |
| 22:19 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 2097018386 Aug 8 23:30 1058_20030808223500_20030808233000.nuv |
| 22:19 | <WhiteRabt> | not to mention the benefit of eliminating the analog step inherent in typical tv capture |
| 22:19 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1713520265 Aug 9 00:15 1058_20030808233000_20030809001500.nuv |
| 22:19 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1905996449 Aug 9 01:05 1058_20030809001500_20030809010500.nuv |
| 22:19 | <kja> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nfsnobody 130 1715038120 Aug 9 01:50 1058_20030809010500_20030809015000.nuv |
| 22:19 | <kja> | these are just DVB |
| 22:19 | <kja> | normal 45 min shows |
| 22:19 | <WhiteRabt> | i'm well aware of the bitrate of hdtv |
| 22:19 | <WhiteRabt> | up to 19.2mbit/sec, i think? i'm sure i'm in the ballpark |
| 22:20 | <phar0e> | good evening all |
| 22:20 | <kja> | White: I think they go even higher |
| 22:21 | <kja> | I don't have the specs around... |
| 22:21 | <kja> | Hi phar0e |
| 22:22 | <kja> | what's up? |
| 22:22 | <phar0e> | just cleaning up my oldrecorded table |
| 22:22 | <phar0e> | on half-recorded shows |
| 22:22 | <phar0e> | anything wrong with that? |
| 22:23 | <phar0e> | I had a show recorded, but it was corrupt or something, wasn't able to transcode it.. |
| 22:23 | <mikegrb> | phar0e: I don't think so, have you deleted the recordings already from the interface |
| 22:24 | <mikegrb> | that way you can catch them next time they come around |
| 22:24 | <phar0e> | I think that was my problem |
| 22:24 | <phar0e> | I still had the file in there.. but the filename should have been different since it was on a different date.. |
| 22:24 | <phar0e> | but it failed to record, so I figured it had to do with it being previously recorded |
| 22:25 | <phar0e> | man this MythTV kicks ass |
| 22:25 | <mikegrb> | well if there is an entry in the oldrecorded table it won't try |
| 22:25 | <phar0e> | Aha |
| 22:25 | <WhiteRabt> | anyways |
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| 22:25 | <mikegrb> | yes it certainly does kick ass |
| 22:26 | <phar0e> | I am ordering that WD 120G 8M Cache HD in about a week |
| 22:26 | <phar0e> | more shows! |
| 22:26 | <phar0e> | and I'm putting a faster processor in there |
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| 22:26 | <mikegrb> | Yes, I just recently got a 120 gb hd, so much roomier then the 80gb that was shared with /home |
| 22:27 | <phar0e> | do you know how mythtranscode works? does it take as long as the show itself? so if say the show was 30 minutes, would it take AT LEAST 30 minutes to transcode? |
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| 22:30 | <kja> | have not tried, but if it uses the transcode binaries, I't goes (DVD->DIVX) alsmost 1:1 on my dual athlon |
| 22:33 | <jasoncohen> | can you set mythtv to allow audio to pass through without recording. The way my Mythtv currently works, I can either have sound in mythtv or have sound in every other tv player. |
| 22:35 | <kja> | yup, or not both running at the same time |
| 22:36 | <kja> | yup, not.... |
| 22:38 | <phar0e> | I think it would be a cool feature to add a "this show is on again at..." such and such date and time, like TVguide.com has, would be good if you see a show you want to record, but it has already started |
| 22:40 | <kja> | you can use the program finder to locate any program |
| 22:40 | <jasoncohen> | phar0e: doesn't the search show section show multiple times that a show is on |
| 22:41 | <jasoncohen> | yeah, if you search for a program it'll give you all times it plays |
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| 22:46 | <kja> | well, I have to get my ass to bed now (it's getting brigther outside (5 in the morning here)), so g'nite all |
| 22:47 | <jasoncohen> | goodnight |
| 22:47 | <phar0e> | cya kja |
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| 22:48 | <dopez> | damn, kja is right, its allready getting light outside :) |
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| 22:55 | <matt_> | what exactly is the native lirc support that's been talked about on the dev list for the past few days? |
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| 23:06 | <danc`> | instead of using irexec or irxevent or whatever, myth just talks directly to lircd |
| 23:07 | <matt_> | ah |
| 23:07 | <matt_> | i guess my first step should be to get lirc working |
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| 23:13 | <mecraw> | can anyone tell me what the normal temp range for my cpu should be? |
| 23:13 | <mecraw> | ksensors is telling me the celeron 1.7Ghz in my pundit is 86 degrees celcius |
| 23:14 | <danc`> | that's really high. |
| 23:14 | <danc`> | normal is 40-50 C |
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| 23:14 | <mecraw> | my bios says about 55 celcius on startup |
| 23:14 | <danc`> | like if you reboot it right now it says 55 ? |
| 23:15 | <mecraw> | a few minutes after rebooting |
| 23:16 | <danc`> | it it says 86 or whatever, just reboot it and immediately go into the bios, and check the temp there |
| 23:16 | <danc`> | if your bios says 86 then you need better cooling. if your bios says 50 something, then ksensors is broken |
| 23:16 | <mecraw> | i'm hoping ksensors is broken |
| 23:17 | <danc`> | seems like a reasonable thing to hope for. |
| 23:17 | <mecraw> | i do get segfaults every once in awhile though, memtest86 tells me i have no memory errors after 9 hours |
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| 23:18 | <danc`> | compile something right before you reboot. or do something that taxes the system |
| 23:19 | <mecraw> | will do, thanks, danc` |
| 23:19 | <danc`> | np |
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