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01:05<paulproteus>brainless: ignorance == bliss ?
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01:28<Timon>Why is it I have 57 channels, and nothing is on?
01:38<bline>because you forgot to record something interesting?
01:38<Timon>no, its because there is nothing interesting on :-)
01:40<bline>well I'm sure there was sometime and you didn't schedule to record it
01:40<bline>for shame
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11:57<sfr>anyone ripped CDs with mythmusic and filenames ~90 characters in length?
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13:16<Chutt>ramon really doesn't speak english very well, does he
13:17<sfr>well, what about your spanish?
13:17<Chutt>i don't even try :p
13:18<Chutt>but he thought i was going to take out the spanish/catalan translations from mythtv (since they were broken)
13:18<Chutt>all due to the fact that he didn't read what i said properly
13:19<sfr>i didn't follow that thread
13:19<Chutt>it was off list
13:19<sfr>and honestly, i wouldn't have been surprised ;)
13:20<Chutt>and he's being all pissy about the mythchannels stuff, which is rather annoying
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13:21<Chutt>basically threatening (off list) to stop working on things if i don't accept the code as is
13:22<sfr>hm it's up to him. mythchannels is for the dvb stuff?
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13:23<sfr>Chutt you have a minute to check a patch to mythmusic? it's acting weird and i don't have a glue why
13:24<sfr>gdb doesn't tell me too much.
13:24* sfr prepares the patch...
13:27<sfr>ok, it's at
13:28<sfr>it gives more flexibility to how ripped files can be named
13:29<Chutt>what's it doing that's weird?
13:30<bline>ever thought about make a -dvb list?
13:30<sfr>Chutt the problem is if the resulting filename (which incl. the dir.) is around 90 chars, the encoding never starts (but an empty file is created) or they write the id tags but nothing else
13:31<Chutt>but the filename's right?
13:31<sfr>happens with all three encoders
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13:31<sfr>look for 'token' in the cdrip.cpp part
13:31<Chutt>i can't test it right now, but i don't see anything obviously wrong
13:32<srl>Chutt: Do mythgame and mythmusic use libmyth for their selection menus?
13:32<Chutt>what selection menus?
13:32<srl>Chutt: Like play music in mythmusic
13:32<srl>Chutt: And everything in MythGame
13:33<Chutt>that's all in libs/libmyth/uitypes.cpp
13:33<srl>Chutt: So would adding support for the pgdn key in MythGame mess up the next track hotkey in MythMusic? :)
13:34<Chutt>probably not
13:34<Chutt>the key handling's not in libmyth
13:34<srl>Found it
13:34<srl>Thanks :)
13:35<sfr>Chutt strange thing is it works fine for shorter filenames
13:35<jkolb>sfr: Are you sure it isn't something like spaces in the path?
13:36<Chutt>srl, should be pretty easy to add, i think
13:36<jkolb>You've made a long path /thisisareallylongpath/andshouldnotwork/withmynewrippingcode/ or something?
13:36<srl>Chutt: Yep, should be
13:36<sfr>jkolb spaces are not a problem, i added a option to replace all spaces with underscore, still happens
13:37<jkolb>You're only replacing the spaces in the ripped filename, not in the path.
13:37<srl>Chutt: I just don't know much C++, so I have to figure out where the moveUp/Down methods are implemented
13:37<jkolb>At least, I hope you're not replacing spaces in the path with underscores. That could end up creating directories when you don't want it to.
13:38<sfr>jkolb, no, only if the file should be stored in somelocation/micky maus/album 1/track
13:38<sfr>jkolb somelocation is never checked for spaces
13:39<sfr>jkolb re long path, it happens, but i test if it's < FILENAME_MAX and replace it with a shorter one
13:40<sfr>if it isn't
13:41<srl>Chutt: Looks like I might need to do a bit more than a for loop
13:41* srl runs
13:41<sfr>jkolb you know why fopen in encoder.cpp is called with outfile.ascii() and not just outfile ?
13:42<jkolb>Not really. I haven't looked into the myth code much.
13:43<jkolb>Maybe QString doesn't have an operator char *()?
13:43<sfr>ok, so what does .ascii() do? remove all non-ascii characters?
13:44<sfr>what is char *()? / warning c++ beginner
13:44<jkolb>A cast operator. That's not quite the correct syntax, though.
13:45<sfr>ah, like (char *)blah
13:45<jkolb>It does seem to have one, though.
13:46<jkolb>I usually use the C++ syntax: static_cast<char *>(blah)
13:46<sfr>i just used what i saw in the myth code ;)
13:46<srl>Grr, copying and pasting code is annoying. It always messes up the tabs
13:47<jkolb>C-style casts can end up performing voodoo and you can get weird results. Of course, you have to be doing really nasty things for that to bite you.
13:47<Chutt>srl, in vim, :set paste
13:47<srl>Chutt: What does that do?
13:47* srl looks it up
13:47<Chutt>makes it just put in what you paste
13:48<Chutt>instead of reindenting stuff
13:48<jkolb>So it's a temporary :set noai?
13:48<alkern>i have "set pastetoggle=<F12>" in my .vimrc -- makes it toggleable (thats a word I just made up)
13:48<Chutt>jkolb, naw, noai doesn't apply to pasting
13:49<jkolb>How else would the tabs get messed up?
13:49<Chutt>when you paste, it ignores your nocindent and noai settings
13:50<srl>Chutt: Will changing the first argument in prevSibling or nextSibling be enough for a simple pgup/pgdown?
13:50<alkern>if you want it temporary use pastetoggle
13:50<Chutt>srl, i really don't know
13:50<srl>I'll find out!
13:54<sfr>grr, why does this: '/home/sfr/music/Wir_Sind_Helden/M\xFCssen_Nur_Wollen/M\xFCssen_Nur_Wollen_Wir_Sind_Helden_1.mp3' lock up after creating a 0 byte file
13:54<sfr>and this: '/home/sfr/music/Wir_Sind_Helden/M\xFCssen_Nur_Wollen/Wir_Sind_Helden_1.mp3' works?
14:06<srl>Chutt: It worked!
14:06<srl>Chutt: I actually modified a program and it still worked!
14:07<srl>It was probably a kludge
14:08<alkern>ok. just got xmltv-0.5.16, and myth{tv,frontend,dvd,gallery,game,music,weather}-0.11 into Gentoo portage. next up mythweb.
14:08<srl>Since I just coped moveUp and moveDown but changed the number from 1 to 10
14:08<srl>Err, copied
14:09<jkolb>alkern: Have you tried using mythweb2 yet?
14:09<alkern>jkolb: not yet
14:10<alkern>i hear it is quite delicious though :)
14:10<Chutt>srl, it should probably use the size of the screen instead of '10'
14:10<Chutt>but, that's an ok way to go about doing it
14:11<srl>Chutt: Anyway to get the size of the screen?
14:11<srl>Chutt: I just picked 10 to see if it would work
14:11<Chutt>i think the number of items shown is in there somewhere
14:11<srl>ok, I'll look
14:11<jkolb>I just posted a patch for it to the -dev list. php 4.3.2 seems to have problems reading > 8k from a socket in a single call, so the recorded programs screen was only getting the first few programs for me.
14:12<jkolb>The same problem was happening with the preview pixmaps, but noone thought to fix it in backend_command.
14:12<Chutt>jkolb, if chris petersen doesn't get to that today, i'll commit it
14:13<jkolb>I really want to start working with some of the actual myth code. It's just that I use the web frontend so much, and I can develop it remotely, so I end up working on it a lot more.
14:16<srl>Chutt: Do you think it is a variable? Or does some method return the number of items shown?
14:16<Chutt>srl, i don't remember, sorry
14:16<srl>That's alright
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14:27<Chutt>heh, what a little baby
14:27<jkolb>On list or off?
14:27<Chutt>latest post to -dev
14:28<jkolb>Oh well.
14:28<sfr>how do i s&r only in a part of file in vim?
14:29<jkolb>You can either hit v to enter visual mode, then select the lines you want to include, or if you know the line numbers, you can just type :<beginning>,<end> s/foo/bar/
14:29<sfr>jkolb, thanks!
14:31<mikegrb>sorry about that chutt, that's the one time it talks, Ill fix that when I get home
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14:38* sfr slaps his forehead. did you know the letter i is a common loop counter?
14:39<Chutt>it was using i in the outer loop there, and you were reusing it for those inner filename builds
14:40<sfr>shouldn't this redefinition cause a compiler warning?
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14:41* Captain_Murdoch ponders the 'effects' of MythChannels being 'droped'.
14:42<sfr>btw, is it 'slaps his forehead' or slaps against his forehead'?
14:43<Chutt>sfr, it'd probably have been fine if it hadn't used i later on
14:43<Chutt>you were right the first time
14:43<Chutt>captain_murdoch, well, i'll probably raid it for code
14:43<Chutt>i was going to have to do it that way, anyway, since i couldn't include it as is
14:45<sfr>Chutt, i'll send you a cleaned patch later on
14:45<Chutt>sfr, great, thanks
14:46<Chutt>i'm _still_ merging in that lcd code
14:46<Chutt>but i'm doing a big ole cleanup of all that stuff while i'm merging
14:47<sfr>is it still being called merging then?
14:52<sfr>Chutt it's ok to replace i with trackno ?
14:53<daralc>why does mythvideo not work properly? when you play a video you can't control the video and then you can't get back to mythvideo
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14:53<alkern>daralc: that depends on the player command
14:54<alkern>with xine i can advance, rewind, exit and everything is fine
14:54<daralc>i used stock config
14:54<daralc>are you using oxine?
14:54<alkern>i don't know much about mplayer
14:54<alkern>nope, xine-ui
14:54<daralc>hold one sec
14:54<daralc>and um
14:54<daralc>what are your parameters?
14:54<alkern>one sec
14:55<alkern>this works for me: /usr/bin/xine -pfhq %s
14:56<alkern>i also tweaked some xine key bindings to make it work similar to mythtv so I can use the remote
14:56<daralc>oh yea
14:56<daralc>do you have an NES emulator setup?
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14:57<daralc>which one
14:58<alkern>xmame I think
14:58<daralc>it will do NES?:
14:58<alkern>thats for mame...lemme chich which nes sec
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14:59<daralc>it will do NES?
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15:01<Chutt>no it won't.
15:01<alkern>no? I swear I used it
15:01<alkern>must need more caffine then
15:01<daralc>Chutt: what can i use on RH
15:01<alkern>oh duh..thats for snes
15:02<Chutt>i dunno
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15:02<jkolb>Is mythgame no longer tied to specific emus?
15:03<alkern>i use fceultra for nes
15:03<alkern>thats right
15:03<Chutt>jkolb, the nes stuff's never been tied to one
15:03<Chutt>adding other emus wouldn't be difficult, either
15:03<Chutt>i simplified all the settings code
15:04<jkolb>I seem to remember trying a different emu than what was covered in the docs for either nes or snes, and it sent incorrect parameters or something. Of course, I haven't touched mythgame in a long time, and I never tried to figure out why it did that.
15:06<alkern>somewhat related question: if lirc support is built into myth, how will external apps be controlled without irxevent (i.e. xine, mplayer, etc)
15:08<Chutt>alkern, no idea =)
15:08<alkern>heh, ok I guess it depends on lirc support for that specific app then, huh?
15:09<Chutt>we could eat the keypresses in mythtv and send em along to the other app
15:09<Chutt>be pretty easy to do
15:09<alkern>so basically emulate irxevent?
15:09<Chutt>it's really only a couple lines of code
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15:53<sfr>rkugalow_ hi
15:54<sfr>rkulagow_ hi
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16:11<jhurliman>so what's the word on lirc in 0.11? if i EXECTV xawtv, will xawtv be able to receive lirc commands?
16:12* brainless greets all
16:13<hfb>Hi brainless
16:13<brainless>hey hfb :)
16:13<brainless>hfb: i am finally in LA
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16:42<jhurliman>hmm, configfiles/lircrc.example still uses irxevent, did the lirc patch not appear in 0.11?
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16:43<Chutt>hey thor
16:43<alkern>whatever happened to the funhouse theme. i liked that one
16:43<Chutt>theme author didn't maintain it
16:44<thor_>0.11 out ... no major disasters that I can see ?
16:44<Chutt>nope, none
16:44<thor_>got some new mythvideo stuff nearly ready ...
16:44<Chutt>commit whenever you feel it's ready =)
16:44<alkern>oh! btw, the Gentoo instructions still say to download the ebuilds from an external source. Any chance this can be changed to just "emerge mythtv"?
16:44<thor_>set player by extension, and the tree browser can ignore the db and just browse files
16:45<thor_>some time tomorrw
16:45<Chutt>alkern, sure, when the doc guy gets back
16:45<jhurliman>thor_: the latter will be a very welcome addition :)
16:45<Chutt>or if you can get mdz to do the docs like he offered to =)
16:46<thor_>like old mythvideo, but you can configure it all through the GUI
16:46<mdz_>alkern: send me a diff against the current CVS version of docs/mythtv-HOWTO.sgml
16:46<Chutt>mdz, can you regenerate the .html files and stuff then?
16:46<thor_>jhurliman, that site you're working on ... are you a founder or an employee ?
16:46<jhurliman>i fixed a bug in the old mythvideo that allowed you to browse directories above the mythvideo root, i'll upload it later tonight (not sure if anyone still uses mythlauncher)
16:46<alkern>mdz_: ok let me write it up
16:47<jhurliman>thor_: founder
16:48<thor_>hmmm ... interesting ... we should have a conversation at some point (when I get back)
16:48<mdz_>Chutt: yes
16:48<mdz_>in fact, I ought to add a makefile for it
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16:48<Chutt>that'd be appreciated
16:48<mdz_>I just can't be bothered to figure out how to make qmake do simple things
16:48<jhurliman>thor_: sure, how's the trip going?
16:49<thor_>vacation = good
16:49<thor_>== ?
16:49<thor_>mdz, is there something I could have done differently to make building transcoding .debs easier ?
16:50<mdz_>thor_: dunno, I just didn't have time to investigate what it needed
16:50<mdz_>thor_: specifically, how mtd should be handled
16:50<thor_>ah, ok
16:50<mdz_>thor_: is mtd meant to be started at boot, or spawned by mythdvd?
16:50<Chutt>this lcd patch is buggy.
16:50<Chutt>segfaults when navigating the menus
16:51<matt_>i changed the bindings for the prog guide & finder (pressing m repeatedly cycles between non-favorites, favs, and finder) in preparation for my main goal of highlighting a channel in the guide that you enter. however, i think that might take me a bit longer, so should i submit part 1 now?
16:51<thor_>mdz, in an ideal world, spawned at boot ... but until it's more tested it really makes most sense to run it on a console
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16:51<Chutt>tmk, hey
16:51<tmk>where was you this weekend
16:52<Chutt>out and about
16:52<tmk>good for you
16:52<tmk>work kicked my butt all weekend
16:52<tmk>i was hoping to code up the decoder
16:52<tmk>but i barely got anything done
16:52<Chutt>didn't happen?
16:53<tmk>i barely slept
16:53<Chutt>no worries
16:53<tmk>did i mention my leet asm code though?
16:53<tmk>for byteswapping and memcpy in one
16:53<Chutt>i think i saw that
16:53<tmk>that was friday i think
16:54<tmk>i did use myth a fair bit though
16:54<tmk>recorded/watched a few shows
16:54<tmk>watched using dd, not myth ;)
16:55<tmk>probably a stupid question, but if myth's recording, can you watch it live-tv style?
16:56<thor_>yup, from play recording
16:56<Chutt>it highlights in progress shows in a different color than the rest
16:58<tmk>ah cool
16:58<thor_>ok, got my tiny libmyth commit in ... signing off
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17:04<jhurliman>does anyone here follow the tvtime project?
17:04<jhurliman>the 0.9.9 release is holding me up :-\
17:04<Chutt>the author's in here quite often
17:06<mdz_>Chutt: how the hell are you supposed to get qmake to do something other than compile C++ source code or recurse into subdirectories?
17:07<mdz_>I broke down and looked at the docs and I am not enlightened
17:07<mdz_>or would it work to drop a regular Makefile in that directory? would qmake recurse into it OK?
17:08<Chutt>i dunno
17:08<mdz_>oh hell
17:09<mdz_>the howto uses linuxdoc, not docbook
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17:11<Chutt>moegreen, hi
17:12<matt_>can someone explain why tv looks the same at both 480x480 and 720x480? i'm a little bit confused on how video resolutions (and widescreen) work.
17:13<sfr>matt_ on a tv?
17:14<matt_>well i'm using a monitor atm but i'll be getting a widescreen tv next weekend
17:14<jhurliman>matt_: remember that the capture resolution doesn't affect the display resolution
17:15<jhurliman>for widescreen you would need to add a 16:9 modeline to your XF86Config
17:15<matt_>and then set the display res to like 720x405?
17:17<jhurliman>Modeline "848x480" 36.79 848 931 1000 1088 480 529 535 559 +hsync +vsync
17:17<jhurliman>that would be an example modeline, then set your capture resolution to whatever your system can handle (480x480 is a good start, i had to scale down to 400x400)
17:23<mechou>hey, whatever happened to the red line that show current time in mythtv epg? I can't seem to find where to set it....
17:23<Chutt>sfr, i'll get your patch in later tonight
17:23<Chutt>mechou, got removed with the themed epg
17:24<Chutt>sfr, i'm finishing up the lcd and everything else commit, then i'll look at your stuff and get it in
17:24<mechou>Chutt, did people not like that feature, or something?
17:24<Chutt>i dunno
17:24<Chutt>i never used it
17:25<sfr>i liked it!
17:26<mechou>well, I suppose it's not a total loss, epg does show current time (digits)
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17:31<Chutt>kja, you didn't update all the audio values in avformatdecoder.cpp
17:31<Chutt>i'm wondering if that's the cause of your garbled audio.
17:31<kja>aiee, which did i miss?
17:32<Chutt>audio_sampling_size and audio_sampling_rate
17:32<Chutt>everything's in cvs now, though
17:32<Chutt>so, give it a try and see if that helps
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17:33<kja>yea, updating now
17:33<Chutt>do a distclean
17:33<bbeattie2>If myth is getting to many remote presses (ie, left moves 3 left, instead of 1) how is this resolved? The repeat option in the .lircrc doesn't appear to help any.
17:33<matt_>is anyone running suse linux?
17:34<Chutt>bbeattie, the repeat option works fine for me
17:34<Chutt>that's the best way to solve that
17:34<Chutt>matt_, i'd not recommend it, they have a broken default Qt install
17:34<bbeattie2>Chutt: setting repeat to 1?
17:34<matt_>i wasn't interesting in installing it...i read that it comes with a utility that when given a resolution, it will generate the proper modeline
17:34<Chutt>bbeattie, no, repeat 3 or so
17:35<Chutt>tells it to only report every third press, i believe
17:38<bbeattie2>Chutt: not even repeat 9 helps. :-/
17:38<Chutt>that's no good, then
17:38<bbeattie2>Arg, runaway irxevent... that's the problem
17:39<kja>Chutt: sorry, but it's playing at dual speed
17:40<Chutt>are you sure you're parsing the sample rate properly?
17:40<kja>it's consistent with what the backend reports
17:40<kja>and it's done the same way in libavcodec
17:41<kja>it's also correct in all stereo programs
17:41<Chutt>ah well
17:41<Chutt>i dunno
17:41<kja>just put in the /2 for mono, and it's ok
17:42<kja>could it be that the mono streams i'm getting are out of spec or something?
17:43<kja>i have a 10MB sample if you would like to test
17:43<Chutt>no, it's more likely that something in audiooutputoss is not handling mono properly.
17:43<bbeattie2>Chutt: is the lircrc KP for page down, PageDown or PgDown?
17:43<Chutt>i don't recall
17:44<kja>could it be my driver? nvidia nforce2 onboard i810 compatible
17:46<mdz_>Chutt: any particular reason why rkulagow named the output mythtv-HOWTO-singlehtml.html rather than mythtv-HOWTO.html? that's not how the tools work by default
17:46<Chutt>isn't there a mythtv-HOWTO.html already?
17:48<Chutt>sfr, i want my files [track#] - [title]
17:48<Chutt>how can i do that with your patch?
17:48<sfr>? should be the default
17:49<sfr>if you ask that, many users will ask ;)
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17:49<Chutt>spaces around the -
17:49<Chutt>and the - in the filename
17:49<Chutt>i don't think your stuff will do that
17:49<mdz_>Chutt: yes, there is. currently mythtv-HOWTO.html is just a TOC
17:50<bbeattie2>odd, page-up and page_up are different, well, page-up just calls "Up"
17:51<Chutt>mdz, that's why =)
17:51<sfr>Chutt just set storage location to 'TRACK-TITLE' and the separator to ' - '
17:51<sfr>and put 'ARTIST/ALBUM/' in front of the location
17:51<Chutt>i dunno
17:51<Chutt>can't you get the same effect by using qregexp in the code?
17:51<matt_>hm i just updating my cvs and now i get an error when building myth...
17:52<matt_>main.o(.text+0xb6): In function `main':
17:52<matt_>: undefined reference to `MythContext::MythContext[in-charge](QString const&, bool)'
17:52<matt_>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
17:52<Chutt>matt, 'make distclean'.
17:52<Chutt>sfr, instead of breaking things into tokens and the like
17:53<sfr>Chutt replacing the '-', i think so, but the tokens?
17:53<Chutt>no no
17:53<Chutt>your big parseFiletokens() function
17:54<Chutt>i dunno
17:54<Chutt>seems like that'd be easier to do with QRegExp than how you're doing it now
17:54<Chutt>is all
17:55<sfr>Chutt i didn't check QRegExp yet
17:58<sfr>i don't 'think' C++/Qt yet
17:59<Chutt>that's qt, not c++
17:59<mdz_>Chutt: docs/Makefile committed. let me know if it works for you
17:59<Chutt>i don't have the tools installed, though
17:59<Chutt>so is that going to break stuff?
17:59<mdz_>I didn't set up the top-level makefile to recurse into docs
18:00<mdz_>so you need to explicitly go into docs and make in order to rebuild that stuff
18:00<mdz_>the makefile has a comment which tells you what to install
18:00<Chutt>ok, good
18:02<Chutt>7 new packages
18:03<mdz_>singlehtml is busted at the moment, ifxing it now
18:05<tmk>isit safe to update to newest xmltv?
18:05<Chutt>tmk, doesn't matter
18:05<Chutt>should work, though
18:06<Chutt>mythdvd is the most popular addon
18:07<Chutt>and mythgame is the least
18:07<Chutt>ah well
18:10<sfr>Chutt i'll have a look tomorrow
18:11<Chutt>sfr, ok =)
18:13<tmk>Chutt: is that not as you expected?
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18:18<daralc>mythdvd, i don't see the DVD option
18:18<daralc>on the menu
18:18<daralc>although i just compiled/installed it
18:19<matt_>are there any other themes aside from blue which have a dvd icon?
18:19<daralc>i was using visor
18:19<matt_>i'm using a purple galaxy/blue hybrid i created
18:20<mdz_>Chutt: does the output look OK to you? I'm ready to regenerate everything and commit it
18:20<daralc>but its not showing up
18:20<daralc>mdz_: are you fixing mythdvd?
18:20<mdz_>daralc: no
18:20<mdz_>it's not broken
18:21<daralc>why would it not show up on my menu then
18:21<mdz_>because you didn't compile it right, or didn't install it right, or any number of other things
18:22<daralc>./configure --enable-transcode && make && make install
18:22<daralc>if i installed other modules by rpm does that matter?
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18:28<daralc>run ldconfig?
18:30<Chutt>mdz, it doesn't seem to be changed too much
18:30<mdz_>Chutt: good
18:30<mdz_>unstable has a slightly newer version of the tools than rkulagow was using
18:31<mdz_>this stuff should really be converted to docbook
18:31<Chutt>there's some indentation changes
18:31<mdz_>$ amixer set Line,0 75%,75% mute captur
18:31<mdz_>is that a typo, or is the parameter really 'captur'?
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18:31<Chutt>i believe that's really what it is on some soundcards
18:32<mdz_>I'm giving it a quick ispell
18:34<tmk>i hate when peopel ask questions that are in the faq
18:34<Chutt>you do have 'modprobe msp3400.o' in the faq
18:34<Chutt>and that probably should be there without the .o
18:35<tmk>hmm probably :)
18:35<tmk>he was tyring to use xawtv tho
18:36<Chutt>and kwintv
18:36<tmk>and msp3400 had already been loaded (check his lsmod output)
18:36<Chutt>if you saw his post on the mythtv lists
18:36<tmk>i did not
18:36<tmk>i don't read them
18:36<tmk>i just subscribe so i can ask questions
18:36<tmk>then watch the archives
18:38<tmk>is snowman still archiving the mythtv list?
18:39<Chutt>they're on
18:39<Chutt>the archives on aren't active anymore
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18:52<alkern>mdz_: where can I send the gentoo doc diff?
19:05<mdz>alkern: or
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19:06<Chutt>thanks for looking at the docs, btw
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19:08<mdz>no problem. feel free to have people send me updates
19:08<Chutt>where do i get pdflatex from?
19:08<mdz>it's not in the deps?
19:08<mdz>it's in tetex-bin
19:08<mdz>ah, it's suggested
19:08<Chutt>i don't have any tetex* stuff on my machine :p
19:09<mdz>I already had it
19:09<Chutt>didn't come up in an apt-cache search, either
19:09<Chutt>20MB of crap just to install tetex-bin
19:09<mdz>reportbug -S wishlist tetex-bin
19:09<Chutt>67.3MB of installed space
19:09<Chutt>i think i'll pass
19:11<mdz>you don't particularly need it
19:12<Chutt>i know, it's just for the pdf generation
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19:13<meth>any ideas why mythbackend doesnt stay started after it says it started?
19:14<mdz>I guess if you want to be sure the docs are up to date when building a release, it'd be nice
19:14<Chutt>what's it do instead of staying started?
19:14<Chutt>mdz, it still references 0.10 everywhere =)
19:14<mdz>prints out an error and exits
19:14<mdz>Chutt: there's also a manual version number in there I haven't been updating
19:14<mdz>I should put in a $Id$ or something
19:15<Chutt>that'd mean it'd have to be checked in first, then updated
19:15<Chutt>then checked in again
19:15<Chutt>if you wanted stuff to have the current id
19:15<mdz>I'l lupdate the pathnames and such to say 0.11, but since nobody has checked over it for 0.11, it probably should still say 0.10 at the top
19:15<mdz>eh? it should do the substitution at the same time as the commit
19:16<Chutt>the generated files?
19:16<Chutt>i guess
19:16<mdz>oh, that
19:16<mdz>yeah, that sucks
19:17<meth>Starting up as the master server.
19:17<meth>Probed: /dev/video0 - Television
19:17<meth>Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite1
19:17<meth>open lockfile: Success
19:17<meth>it doesnt start
19:18<Chutt>you're not running 0.11.
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19:19<bbeattie2>bah, 720P uses 60% of my CPU but a 1080i test is maxing out my 2600 and giving me frame drops. :-/
19:19<bbeattie2>Chutt: does the deinterlacing option for playback effect mpeg2 streams also?
19:19<meth>so the reason it doesnt work is cause im not using .11
19:19<Chutt>meth, yes.
19:19<bbeattie2>that must be what's killing my video... :-/
19:19<meth> heh
19:19<Chutt>bbeattie, probably =)
19:19<meth>i hope there is a ebuild :/
19:19<Chutt>turn that off, should be better.
19:19<Chutt>meth, of course there is.
19:20<kja>Chutt: the latest nvaudio driver won't work with the hack, only i810_audio takes it, and the nvaudio driver won't do mono either..
19:20<Chutt>it's really easy to double mono up to stereo.
19:20<bbeattie2>de-interlacing a 1080I HDTV stream will require about a 3ghz +, or some cleaning up of the mpegd2 code.. or using xvmc (Which I don't since I run dual display)
19:20<Chutt>there's xvmc support in mythtv, btw
19:20<Chutt>no OSD, but...
19:21<kja>just double every 16 bit
19:21<bbeattie2>Chutt: xvmc isn't working when using dual head it appears.
19:21<bbeattie2>yeah it does or yeah it doesn't work?
19:22<kja>thought about importing the libao2 lib from mplayer (we would have gotten better audio out support as well:)
19:22<Chutt>it doesn't work
19:22<Chutt>kja, no.
19:23* kja is confused :)
19:24<bbeattie2>Chutt: disabling that option didn't help.
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19:25<Chutt>bbeattie2, try setting the resolution in mythtv to 1920x1080
19:25<bbeattie2>Chutt: how much optimization has been done to the mpeg2 decoder? I've had 1080I working fine, outside of mythtv.
19:25<Chutt>1080i works fine here
19:25<Chutt>75% cpu or so on my 1800+
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19:26<Chutt>no frame drops
19:26<bbeattie2>I'll check and see if it's a scaling issue tomorrow I need to run for a bit though. :-/ Could be that.. scaling issue it is.
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19:32<meth>motion_est.c: In function `simple_direct_qpel_qpel_get_mb_score':
19:32<meth>motion_est.c:1388: internal error: Segmentation fault
19:34<meth>o well
19:41<Chutt>you've got hardware issues
19:42<Chutt>bad ram, most likely.
19:42<Chutt>or heat problems
19:43<meth>this is what i get for breaking 2 system fans
19:43<meth>Sensors: Mainboard: +30\xB0C Processor: +49\xB0C fan1: 5357 fan2: 0
19:43<meth>not that much hotter then normal
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19:44<Chutt>hardware problems are really the only things that will cause gcc to die like that
19:45<meth>prolly heat
19:45<meth>looks like it may be working now
19:45<meth>i switched my fans over to a fan controler and now 2 dont work
19:45<meth>i gave up and put it back together
19:45<meth>wmadec.c: In function `wma_decode_frame':
19:45<meth>wmadec.c:1290: internal error: Segmentation fault
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19:54<srl>Anyone here use snes9x with a TV and an nvidia card?
19:54<srl>I'm trying to figure out which options to use
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20:14<meth>bah damn db upgrade isnt workin
20:15<meth>gah damn file got erased
20:17<meth>Starting up as the master server.
20:17<meth>Probed: /dev/video0 - Television
20:17<meth>Probed: /dev/video0 - Composite1
20:17<meth>open lockfile: Success
20:17<meth>connecting to backend server:
20:17<meth>Could not connect to backend server
20:19<meth>no eerrors, it just doesnt start
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20:31<srl>Why is it that sometimes the picture on the tv is fine, while other times it is really speckled?
20:31<srl>I just have to keep switching the resolution until it looks normal
20:45<tmk>meth: are you running mysql?
20:45<tmk>err n/m
20:45<meth>it started once lmao
20:45<meth>im updating the tv sched. i was at qcon all week
20:46<tmk>what does 'netstat -an | grep 6543' output
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21:14<tmk>does the transcoder work with pvr250 files?
21:14<tmk>and where is the cutlist feature documented?
21:15<bline>no, they encode with no sound and the commercial skipping is way off
21:16<bline>this has been discussed on the list for the last week
21:16<bline>guy that writes it has a 250 but hasn't gotten around to installing it to test the transcoding
21:16<Chutt>he said he tried to install it this past weekend but couldn't
21:17<Chutt>but he's apparently using 2.5.x
21:17<bline>oh, I missed that one
21:17<Chutt>that was in the flood of email today
21:18<bline>myth quit working for my and I'm too lazy to debug it heh
21:18<Chutt>i think the lists are at 195 messages for today
21:19<bline>so i been listening to mythmusic for two days now
21:28<Chutt>wonder what the problem is
21:28<Chutt>i've been really happy with the release
21:28<Chutt>seems to have been pretty bug free
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21:34<bline>videos will not delete or play
21:34<bline>mplayer will play them fine
21:35<bline>deleting just locks the frontend
21:35<bline>playing recordings just shows a blackscreen, sometimes I have to kill -9 it
21:35<bline>funny though, live tv works fine
21:35<Chutt>that's weird
21:36<bline>I'm going to collect a few more recordings and test some more
21:36<meth>Grabbed 1700 programs on 66 channels over 1 day(s) in 134 seconds
21:36<meth> not too bad, that's 12.69 programs/sec and 2.03 seconds/www page
21:36<meth>is that fast?
21:36<Chutt>you didn't change your hostname or anything, did you?
21:36<bline>(and I did make distclean this time :)
21:36<bline>no, but I've been having time issues latly
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22:10<bline>think I found my problem
22:10<bline>11527 mysql 25 0 8492 8492 2204 R 98.8 1.1 2227:13 mysqld
22:10<bline>wonder how that heppened
22:11<bline>yay, and I can't kill it
22:12<bline>guess I have to reboot :(
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22:18<aaron_>anyone use a recent athlon on a micro-atx mobo?
22:18<aaron_>just wondering how easy it is to keep that cool
22:18<aaron_>maybe it isn't a problem
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22:19<meth>god damn thing doesnt start still
22:20<meth>mythbackend -p -v -d -l log.log
22:20<meth>/etc/init.d/mythbackend start
22:20<meth>nothing starts it
22:23<meth>changed the hostname and it starts
22:24<meth>tv doesnt work in it nor does program sched.
22:24<meth>tv doesnt work in it nor does program sched.
22:25<meth>i changed the hostname to my hostname
22:25<meth>asshat root # mythtv
22:25<meth>connecting to backend server:
22:25<meth>instead of asshat:6543
22:28<paulproteus>Heh, asshat.
22:28<paulproteus>You're sure MySQL is running?
22:28<paulproteus>What OS? Debian/Gentoo/LFS/?
22:29* paulproteus sighs
22:30<meth>mysql is on
22:30<meth>or it wouldnt start
22:34<meth>the backend starts when i change the host
22:34<meth>but the frotend thinks its 127.0
22:35<meth>the backend says its 127. too
22:41<meth>now it hatse that lmao
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22:43<meth>now it starts providing i make the master server
22:43<meth>but the program guide doesnt show anything
22:43<meth>actualy looks like it locks up mythtv
22:47<meth>fucking thing hates me
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22:57<srl>Well, TV out works now :)
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23:20<bline>Chutt: you around?
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23:26<Chutt>on and off
23:27<phar0e>on the commit mailing list, does that include mythweb2 or just mythtv?
23:27<Chutt>it includes everything.
23:30<bline>I found the problem, check this out:
23:31<bline>magus root # hdparm -Tt /dev/hdc
23:31<bline> Timing buffer-cache reads: 4 MB in 6.29 seconds = 651.61 kB/sec
23:31<bline> Timing buffered disk reads: 2 MB in 32.51 seconds = 63.00 kB/sec
23:31<bline>magus root #
23:31<bline>bran new drive too
23:32<bline>isn't 3 months old
23:37<paulproteus>bline: That's amazing.
23:37<meth> Timing buffer-cache reads: 1108 MB in 2.00 seconds = 554.00 MB/sec
23:37<meth> Timing buffered disk reads: 172 MB in 3.02 seconds = 56.95 MB/sec
23:37<meth>yikes yours is really slow
23:37<paulproteus>hdparm /dev/hdc
23:38<paulproteus>That's absurdly slow.
23:38<meth>ya it is
23:38<paulproteus>I mean, I get more than that down from the Internet.
23:38<meth>mines a 160gb WD 8mb cache
23:38<meth>my 120gb 4mb is just as fast
23:38<meth> Timing buffer-cache reads: 1112 MB in 2.00 seconds = 556.00 MB/sec
23:38<meth> Timing buffered disk reads: 140 MB in 3.03 seconds = 46.20 MB/sec
23:38<meth>still doesnt make mythtv work for shit th
23:39<paulproteus>bline: Do you have 2KB of RAM and are swapping in and out all the time?
23:41<phar0e>mythweb2- under scheduled recordings my ninth show it lists has a red box around it.. and a "RECORD" button to the right suggesting that there is a conflict, but there is none.. does the red box mean something else?
23:45<mikegrb>phar0e: by default that screen isn't sorted by time, have you tried clicking the header to resort by start time?
23:45<bline>paulproteus: it's got 750M ram, and no swap
23:46<bline>this is a seagate 160G drive, water baring
23:46<bline>It looks like it's going out to me...
23:46<bline>just started doing this the last week
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23:47<orangey>hey guys! : )
23:49<bline>yeah, I'll have to install SMART
23:49<bline>I usually do that on all my machines..
23:50<bline>probably better to just run the seagate drive test though
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